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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1366938]I still think there is a definite need for a kind of small, attractive boutique bordello where one could hang and get drinks, all for a reasonable price. If someone would just get the formula right, it would attract better women (allow them to earn slightly more and not have to do the Artemis churn) , be less of a mass wurst factory than Artemis, allow some wifi work area etc, and be interesting enough to lounge around with better music, food, clientele etc. One day, one can hope.[/QUOTE]Yep, could be nice!

Well, Pascha tryed it but it lasted what? 2 weeks? Not exactly what you are talking about but maybe looking that way. Still the fail was not because of the business model but because of the location If I understood correctly.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1366938]Well ah, bring something to read.

Artemis is like most clubs more claustrophobic in winter. When things warm up, hanging outside by the new Poondorf pool and jacuzzi will be good, even while listening to the soothing sounds of the autobahn and 2 train lines.

Back to thread form. Bel Ami near Mon Rouge has had some weird stuff going down-like a bad smashup break-in this year. There is an odd Ruskie mafioso vibe. I guess some would enjoy the edginess.

I still think there is a definite need for a kind of small, attractive boutique bordello where one could hang and get drinks, all for a reasonable price. If someone would just get the formula right, it would attract better women (allow them to earn slightly more and not have to do the Artemis churn) , be less of a mass wurst factory than Artemis, allow some wifi work area etc, and be interesting enough to lounge around with better music, food, clientele etc. One day, one can hope.[/QUOTE]Tried to bring a book with me to Artemis, however I had problems concentrating on reading it. .

The clubs that are somewhat similar to what I think you mean with "boutique bordellos", almost always fails on having either a rediculous pricing [buying expensive drinks for the girls, or 200€ for a simple 30 min fuck and' suck] or not so good looking women. Otherwise I agree, it could be a fun place to visit, if such a place existed.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1367023]Ciao Finite.

Totally agree with you about the drink thing. It's ridiculous. I would spend more but have nice drinks in real glasses, instead they give you eyedrops in plastic glasses for 10 euros. Palace (Fra) is MUCH better for this.

Regarding the time spent at Art. I usually take brakes, going out for dinner or maybe visiting anothe club, but more than once I stayed there 10 or more hours without problems. Depends on the mood, the company, etc.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Yes, I know that you can leave the place and come back. Maybe I will try that next time. I always go to these kind of establishments alone, don't have any friends that I know of, that share my hobby. I guess it could be fun if you are in a company, but sometimes the guys I see that arrive togheter to Artemis behave pretty badly. Last time it was a gang of Italians acting out. And on the time before that it was people from my own country behaving badly, felt that I had to lie to the girls that I was from a neighboring country LOL.

[QUOTE=Finite;1367086]Yes, I know that you can leave the place and come back. Maybe I will try that next time. I always go to these kind of establishments alone, don't have any friends that I know of, that share my hobby. I guess it could be fun if you are in a company, but sometimes the guys I see that arrive togheter to Artemis behave pretty badly. Last time it was a gang of Italians acting out. And on the time before that it was people from my own country behaving badly, felt that I had to lie to the girls that I was from a neighboring country LOL.[/QUOTE]Ahahaha. I know very well what you mean! Some people really act like idots. Next time you are up you could post a message and maybe meet up with other ISG members that happen to be there. Can be fun if you meet the right people.

Ciao. Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1367241]Ahahaha. I know very well what you mean! Some people really act like idots. Next time you are up you could post a message and maybe meet up with other ISG members that happen to be there. Can be fun if you meet the right people.

Ciao. Kimino[/QUOTE]Maybe I'll try that next time, always wonderd about how some of the members are in real life [from hard-core mongers to neurotics like Norjan]. But I don't think a meeting of that sort is so easy to arrange, people have to be in Berlin / Frankfurt etc. At the same time, and I think alot of people don't want to meet up beacause of privacy reasons, wich of course is understandable. And beeing alone also has it's advantages.

Happy New Year!

[QUOTE=Finite;1366616]Artemis is a nice place, but don't you find it kind of boring after a while? I can manage max 5 hours in that place, then I get kind of bored. That's why I like the apartment brothels, it's quicker and in most places you get as good of a service or better than in Artemis. Then I can use the rest of my time to party in some decadent club, and if I'm lucky hook up with non p4p-girls. The prices for a drink in Artemis is stupid, I understand why they have such high prices, but I would like the club better if I could have normal or slightly overpriced brewski between sessions. Otherwise it would be the perfect warm-up place.[/QUOTE]Just saying, basically +1. You could not be more correct with everthing you say. I mean, I don't intend to get wasted in the club, but a man wants a drink or two at times, and not pay a fortune and thereby asking himself what went wrong in his life because he's doing that, haha. And it would be good for business, too. E. G. The Oase 5 euro cocktails, that are quite good actually, certainly swung the pendulum on more than one ocassion in favor of me going there when I'm in Frankfurt, and I'm sure a comparabale offer would do in Artemis, but not like 10 euros for substandard beer in cups.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1367372]Just saying, basically +1. You could not be more correct with everthing you say. I mean, I don't intend to get wasted in the club, but a man wants a drink or two at times, and not pay a fortune and thereby asking himself what went wrong in his life because he's doing that, haha. And it would be good for business, too. E. G. The Oase 5 euro cocktails, that are quite good actually, certainly swung the pendulum on more than one ocassion in favor of me going there when I'm in Frankfurt, and I'm sure a comparabale offer would do in Artemis, but not like 10 euros for substandard beer in cups.[/QUOTE]You are right about the beer it's substandard, it's Heineken I think? The Germans are famous for three tings except WW2, great autos, great bier, and great porn. So why serve a dutch brand, that's not even a great beer?

I think there's two sides of the coin in this case, if you drink to much you can't fuck as much, right? But if you are not shitfaced you prob. Take longer sessions and do more extras. For example I did a duo in Barcelona, not shitfaced but drunk. It was a really good session, bareback rim-and blowjob with a catalan and a brazilian. My own performance was not especially good. But it was verry memorable, much more than any duo that I have had in Berlin. But of course also verry expensive.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1367268]Maybe I'll try that next time, always wonderd about how some of the members are in real life [from hard-core mongers to neurotics like Norjan]. But I don't think a meeting of that sort is so easy to arrange, people have to be in Berlin / Frankfurt etc. At the same time, and I think alot of people don't want to meet up beacause of privacy reasons, wich of course is understandable. And beeing alone also has it's advantages.

Happy New Year![/QUOTE]Myself, Rocketboy (both living in Berlin) , Kimino, Zimmerbaby, Bearsk, sometimes Charlie123 and maybe a couple others less regular meet up regularly when one or more passes through town. These days we often meet at a place close to Artemis so that those who are there can have a short break. Just drop myself or RB a line via pm if you are passing through.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1367684]Myself, Rocketboy (both living in Berlin) , Kimino, Zimmerbaby, Bearsk, sometimes Charlie123 and maybe a couple others less regular meet up regularly when one or more passes through town. These days we often meet at a place close to Artemis so that those who are there can have a short break. Just drop myself or RB a line via pm if you are passing through.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replay Angus, I will send you a PM as soon as I have purchased a subscription, later this week.

I'm quite curious about the Lora Gora girl, that was mentioned earlier in this thread. She looks verry interesting, however I get some bad vibes about her. Is she a pro or a student making some kind of videowork of prostitution as her theisis at the school of arts in Stockholm [konstfack]?

[QUOTE=Finite; 1367520]You are right about the beer it's substandard, it's Heineken I think? The Germans are famous for three tings except WW2, great autos, great bier, and great porn. So why serve a dutch brand, that's not even a great beer?

I think there's two sides of the coin in this case, if you drink to much you can't fuck as much, right? But if you are not shitfaced you prob. Take longer sessions and do more extras. For example I did a duo in Barcelona, not shitfaced but drunk. It was a really good session, bareback rim-and blowjob with a catalan and a brazilian. My own performance was not especially good. But it was verry memorable, much more than any duo that I have had in Berlin. But of course also verry expensive.[/QUOTE]Yes, Heineken, and it's not great. And yes, Alcohol will not enhance the performance, but in moderation has a negligable effect to me and I assume many others. And it can be part of the fun too as you describe. After all you're going there to have a good time and not for the sex olympics. I had a similar story one month ago at Oase where Eva was able to get one hour plus CIM from me, because I had four of their cocktails before. Haha.

BTW Finite and also Angus and others, if you'd like to meet up at some point, sure. I'm only part time in Berlin and actually just about to leave, but will be back, probably in February.

Not to deter to this thread too much and to get it back on subject: I was also at Royal recently and did Valentina. Pale brunette, tall, slim, be cups, very young, local. Not the best round ever, but not the worst either. No DFK and still has to learn the techniques a bit, but willing to please and good to talk to. She told me about a brief stint of hers at Liberty. What I do not like at Royal at present is that their line up very heavily tends towards black and black haired girls. I already noticed this on earlier vistis. Just not my preferred flavour at present. There were one or two blondes, but no pretty ones.

Hello,

Today I did visit Kamilla Dee, did call first to make the apointment with Yves. I think here body is very nice, lovely tits and ass. Nice height, perfect in doggystyle. She will stop working from April this year she said. Was ready for a real job after some study.

Only downside is that she don't blow without condon. And have some tatoos. But I will recommend her.

Tomorrow I have an apointment at Tiffanys.

Hi,

I would like a massage with domination and a HJ from a pretty masseuse. Would you recommend or not recommend the following places (concerning service / absence of problems and level of beauty) :

1. Atelier Marvlin (bizarre-rollenspiele. De)

2. Van Kampen.

3. Liberty.

4. Euphorie.

5. Kamilla Dee.

6. Veronas Massagen.

Any other place to recommend?

Thank you in advance!

Today I went to Royal ([url]http://www.royalgirl.de[/url]), it is not far from Kamilla Dee. I think Royal is nicer, very nice rooms! The bathroom also. I was looking for three girls: Stacy, cyntia and judy. Did not call first. Non of this girls was working, so I did take a girl named "Mikka". On the website I did not look at her at all. But she looks much better in real life. Little bit shy, had 30min with her. I think she did a good job, good blowjob without (20euro extra).

Next time in Berlin I will go back to Royal. Anyone in here that have visited Stacy, cyntia or judy? I like the pics.

Tiffanys did not have any girls for taste at the time I was there.

[QUOTE=Galazy2; 1366188]A lot of the women at Kamilla Dee offer a 'Beginners Service'. My first P4P experience was with FionaatKamilla Dee a few years back and I had a wonderful time. I was with her for 2 hours including the 'Beginners Experience', it wasn't my first time having sex but it was my first time paying for it. She took everything really slow and when I shot my load after a couple of short minutes she cleaned me up and we started again.

I'd suggest dropping them an e-mail telling them what you want and they will come back with some suggestions.[/QUOTE]Thank you Galazy2 for your advice. Fiona is apparently not working there anymore, but I'll do that. I also saw "beginner's service" at Tiffany's, Herz, Gina's Tango Rosa. And report back here if that can be of interest to anyone.

[QUOTE=Loick;1369119]Thank you Galazy2 for your advice. Fiona is apparently not working there anymore, but I'll do that. I also saw "beginner's service" at Tiffany's, Herz, Gina's Tango Rosa. And report back here if that can be of interest to anyone.[/QUOTE]KD's Fiona : did you ask / check with KD's "escort service" (see at the bottom of this web page [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/contact.htm[/url] ). Actually, those last years, Fiona worked only with "arrangements" ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/escort_4e.htm[/url]) : minimum 1 hour (200 Euros).