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Hello guys,
I am going to be visiting Bangkok for the first time next month can all please suggest some must-visit places and general tips I should be looking out for. Also, what is the average amount I should be spending on a single girl? (As I don't know what is the market price there). Thank you, guys.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2321842]I believe the law is based on country of citizenship, and not country of residency. And the risk of course (especially in Thailand) is any grey area in interpretation could result in Murphy's Law.
SL.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, one should err on the side of caution in these matters.
Here is the USA Law as it pertains to age without co-factors involved such as kidnapping, physical abuse, undue coercion and so on. Actually, as I read it now, I don't see any mention of the age 16 being an issue. I might be confusing that with another law.
However, as I read and understand it, the USA law with regard to sex and age 18 pertains to people who "travel with the intent to", "travel for the purpose of" and Sex Tourism and not people who live here, just happened to meet a young person above the age of consent and they both choose to engage in (non commercial) sex. That would be especially true if the young person is on record having stated his/her age as 18 or older.
The reason for this "traveler" concept is not explained exactly in the text but I can surmise why the law would make a distinction between the two situations, at least in part. The USA is trying to discourage a "hit and run" type of engagement with someone under the age of 18, where the traveler hops on a plane the next day, never to take responsibility for the consequences of his/her actions; pregnancy, STD transmission, whatever. By contrast, an established resident is essentially accepting that he will abide by and deal with whatever fallout occurs from his actions and for all practical purposes can be compelled to do so by the local authorities because he lives here and is not just passing through.
[URL]https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-congress/senate-bill/151/text[/URL]
[QUOTE]SEC. 105. PENALTIES AGAINST SEX TOURISM.
(a) In General.--Section 2423 of title 18, United States Code, is
amended by striking subsection (b) and inserting the following:
Page 117 STAT. 654
' ' (b) Travel With Intent To Engage in Illicit Sexual Conduct.--A
person who travels in interstate commerce or travels into the United
States, or a United States citizen or an alien admitted for permanent
residence in the United States who travels in foreign commerce, for the
purpose of engaging in any illicit sexual conduct with another person
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or
both.
``(c) Engaging in Illicit Sexual Conduct in Foreign Places.--Any
United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who
travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct
with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not
more than 30 years, or both.
``(d) Ancillary Offenses.--Whoever, for the purpose of commercial
advantage or private financial gain, arranges, induces, procures, or
facilitates the travel of a person knowing that such a person is
traveling in interstate commerce or foreign commerce for the purpose of
engaging in illicit sexual conduct shall be fined under this title,
imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.
``(e) Attempt and Conspiracy.--Whoever attempts or conspires to
violate subsection (a), (b), (c), or (d) shall be punishable in the same
manner as a completed violation of that subsection.
``(f) Definition.--As used in this section, the term `illicit sexual
conduct' means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246) with a
person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A
if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial
jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as
defined in section 1591) with a person under 18 years of age.
``(g) Defense.--In a prosecution under this section based on illicit
sexual conduct as defined in subsection (f)(2), it is a defense, which
the defendant must establish by a preponderance of the evidence, that
the defendant reasonably believed that the person with whom the
defendant engaged in the commercial sex act had attained the age of 18
years.''.
(b) Conforming Amendment.--Section 2423(a) of title 18, United
States Code, is amended by striking ``or attempts to do so,''.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JustiKyzer;2321859]Hello guys,
I am going to be visiting Bangkok for the first time next month can all please suggest some must-visit places and general tips I should be looking out for. Also, what is the average amount I should be spending on a single girl? (As I don't know what is the market price there). Thank you, guys.[/QUOTE]If you managed to figure our where Bangkok is on a map and managed to book your flights and hotels, then surely you can do better in figuring out must-visit places and prices. The thread is one of the most vibrant and informative threads on the forum. Please RTFF.
P.S. - People have invested their entire life savings and the rest of their lives on a single girl. Some have lived to regret it, some have joined some well known flying clubs, while some are happy and doing great with this decision. Your question needs better riders.
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2322041]
P.S. - People have invested their entire life savings and the rest of their lives on a single girl. Some have lived to regret it, some have joined some well known flying clubs, while some are happy and doing great with this decision. Your question needs better riders.[/QUOTE]With so many in the Pattaya Flying Club, one wonders how many were actual suicides and how many were given a push off the top storey once they paid for the house and car, and farm for the girl, or spent their life savings.
I have certainly heard of strange suicides, one Farang reported as suicide in Canal Khlong Saen Saep had stab wounds in the back. Strange way to suicide, unless he was trying to get some particular person blamed for it.
As for JustiKyzer, unfortunate he is too lazy to specify what he is looking for. Everyone wants something different. Specific questions are better, if turns out anyone finds them interesting enough to be worth an answer.
No. 1 tip for him: Watch out his lady on the street could actually have a dick if he is not careful.
No. 2 Don't use anyone too overly keen to assist you, especially taxi drivers or guys with glossy Massage brochures. You will get ripped off. Stay sceptical.
Was having a drinking night, as I had gotten my fill of ladies earlier in the day already, but decided to hit up the go-gos in Nana Plaza, check out the ladies, drink it up, and if there was anything I really had to have, I could consider a ST. Went to a few places, quick rundown, as I've done before on Nana.
Rainbow (ground floor): Very average.
Rainbow 4 (2nd floor): Great looking girls of course, may be the best of the bunch in overall everything. This place certainly caters to East Asians though. Could say that for a lot of go-gos but the girls here really push that look and I think 80% of the patrons were east asian. No pressure, nice spot, easy to see all the ladies, lots of good going for it. Not sure its my favorite spot, but I know it will always be a good option.
Sexy Night (2nd floor): After fighting through the LBs on the 2nd floor, took a peek in is all, nothing interesting, moved on.
Angelwitch (2nd floor): Only maybe 10-15 girls working, most were solid and of course the music in here being rock instead of pounding dance music helps. The show is OK the first time you see it, then I don't care. At least a couple I could have thought about BFing but nothing I had to have.
Billboard (3rd floor): Vibe here is good, no pressure to pick a lady from mammasan or waitresses which is nice. Plenty of good girls, on par with Rainbow 4. Had stuff for pretty much all tastes outside of the kawaii girls of R4. I would say though that the girls don't rotate onto the stage / bathtub too often, so take a walk around to see which girls are sitting down off stage, there was tons of girls on stage, and plenty not on stage, that never went up while I was there. Another spot I could have easily have BF'ed half the room, but nothing I absolutely had to have.
Butterflies (3rd floor): Tons of petite hotties, it must be their specialty. Just tons of ladies with pretty much all of them having these small little bodies. If you're looking for that, this should be your first stop. If you're not, just go elsewhere before coming here. Definitely more of a strip club vibe than traditional go-go, which is good and bad.
Was pretty deep into beer at this point, grabbed late night eats and went to bed, didn't see anything mandatory and saved my baht for something the next day instead.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2322142] Went to a few places, quick rundown, as I've done before on Nana.[/QUOTE]
Excellent review, GrapeMan. Exactly how I like a review to be. A short synopsis of which bars are good or not good and why so we know which bars are currently good/bad. Saves me time and money.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2322102]With so many in the Pattaya Flying Club, one wonders how many were actual suicides and how many were given a push off the top storey once they paid for the house and car, and farm for the girl, or spent their life savings.[/QUOTE]
It may be different in other Thailand cities but in Pattaya I believe it's many old Farang who have just run out of money. Increased value of the Thai baht and fall of the British Pound coupled with inflated prices from tourists. So many expats in Pattaya who look broke as fuck. Quite depressing actually.
When I used to stay at View Talay 6 in Pattaya I have had gogo girls refusing to go to my top floor condo. They all know about the 'jumpers' from VT6.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2322142]Was having a drinking night, as I had gotten my fill of ladies earlier in the day already, but decided to hit up the go-gos in Nana Plaza, check out the ladies, drink it up, and if there was anything I really had to have, I could consider a ST. Went to a few places, quick rundown, as I've done before on Nana.
Rainbow (ground floor): Very average.
Rainbow 4 (2nd floor): Great looking girls of course, may be the best of the bunch in overall everything. This place certainly caters to East Asians though. Could say that for a lot of go-gos but the girls here really push that look and I think 80% of the patrons were east asian. No pressure, nice spot, easy to see all the ladies, lots of good going for it. Not sure its my favorite spot, but I know it will always be a good option.
Sexy Night (2nd floor): After fighting through the LBs on the 2nd floor, took a peek in is all, nothing interesting, moved on..[/QUOTE]Agree with BB. Nice overview of a few popular places. Useful for someone like me esp. Who won't be automatically frequenting go-gos. Depends on girls profile, music and general vibe for this monger.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2321396]I could be mistaken because he doesn't specify the girl, but I think this one is the one he is considering to be "the hot one". I wouldn't really consider her to be slim. I would also guess that she is mid to late 20's rather than 18 or 19 though.[/QUOTE]Eeewww. Yuck.
I never saw a girl that I liked outside of nana in 7 months. Admittedly, I don't go down there a lot.
Anyone have a weather report?
[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2322261]Copied and pasted directly from the terms and conditions of this site:
Why does this site prohibit discussions of sex with young girls under the age of 18.
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Thank You,
Jackson.[/QUOTE]Apparently, this site does not prohibit such discussions if the Report does not violate Thai law or that of another country in question. At least, as of this writing, my Report and every subsequent reply pertaining to it remains unedited or deleted.
Maybe it is because my Report was not about turning a girl of legal consent age in Thailand and less than 24 hours of being qualified to work in a Happy Ending Massage Shop and most other such venues into a prostitute, which was the focus of your passionate but unrelated rant regarding our discussion.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2322253]Eeewww. Yuck.
I never saw a girl that I liked outside of nana in 7 months. Admittedly, I don't go down there a lot.
Anyone have a weather report?[/QUOTE]Yes, almost to the day that someone here (I forget who) reported how hot it was in Bangkok day and night, the weather turned to quite moderate during the day and downright cool in the evening. Have had a bit of light rain every now and then. And now that I have reported this, watch it go back to being very hot.
LOL. These weather reports often have a shorter useful lifespan than overviews of go-go bar lineups. Interesting, but wait 2-3 hours and everything is different.
BTW, not sure if you read back far enough, but CzarNicholas did repliy that the girl in Smoothy's pic is not the girl he was referring to. And I might add that the girl in that pic is also chubbier and far less attractive than the chubby cute now 18 year old regular, non P4P girl I met on Tinder recently. Just to round out the updates, so to speak.
I have seen a few doable girls I liked standing outside of Nana Hotel recently. However, again, wait 2-3 hours and, poof, a whole different story.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2322369]
BTW, not sure if you read back far enough, but CzarNicholas did repliy that the girl in Smoothy's pic is not the girl he was referring to.[/QUOTE]True, but then again he never clarified which girl he was referring to. There are very few girls with blondish hair in that video so I would be curious which blond he was talking about. Hopefully not this one:
In my opinion, the guy who made that video went too far when he clearly filmed this guy picking up a girl at Nana. I don't have a problem with him filming the girls or even guys sitting at the bar, but to film an actual pickup with closeups of the guy and post it on youtube is crossing the line. I know married guys who would be seriously pissed off if they were the guy in that video.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2322559]I know married guys who would be seriously pissed off if they were the guy in that video.[/QUOTE]I completely agre. If it was me in the video I'd be pretty pissed off. Even being shown at the bar could be a problem if you've told the wife you are away for business and been busy and then a video like this shows up.
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2322574]I completely agre. If it was me in the video I'd be pretty pissed off. Even being shown at the bar could be a problem if you've told the wife you are away for business and been busy and then a video like this shows up.[/QUOTE]Filming people on the street is a seriously fucked up hobby, and seems a bit pointless and anti-social. I don't see that any of the videos are worth watching really. They should find something worthwhile or interesting to film instead.
Actually approaching girls on the street outside Nana 4 is risky even if you are not filmed. Your Thai Mrs (for those that have one) knows many people. Some of those could visit Soi 4.
My Mrs' brother's female Thai friend has picked up a farang boyfriend. Story came to my Mrs that that girl saw me on Soi 4, but I did not see her. Who knows what I was doing at the time? Ha Ha. I hope not chatting up a hooker.
All must be forgiven because the Mrs is in her prime sexually at 39 and has been requesting DATY at least (and usually a fuck too) almost every night lately. Finally she is less shy with me after many years and can indicate she is horny more easily, either put a leg across me, or ask me to "bite her" (a Euphemism for DATY). I get much more now we live in the country away from Bangkok stress, and helped by her beers and bong. When I first met Thai girls, most were too shy to actually state they were horny, and wanted to be done. Sometimes I would miss out because I had no clue they were ready for it. As for me, well I am never going to refuse an opportunity. Always ready for it, except of course immediately after a cum. Even if my dick is not working during sickness, e. G. Bad belly, I can still do DATY for her.
I have learned that sex gets much better, after abstaining from Wanking for a good time. I recommend all to give up wanking to porn, unless sure you won't seeing a girl for the next week or so. Wanking interferes with how good a pussy will feel. Light wanking maybe okay.
My need an opportunity for mongering has declined a lot, so that is why so few new girl tryout reports. Still have some regular / occasional girls.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2322594]Filming people on the street is a seriously fucked up hobby, and seems a bit pointless and anti-social. I don't see that any of the videos are worth watching really. They should find something worthwhile or interesting to film instead.[/QUOTE]It's because there could be a lot of money in it if one is successful.