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[QUOTE=BrohamaJohn;2556755]Trust me -- not my proudest days LOL and I could give all the excuses in the world but I won't just know it won't happen again LOL that's why I'm researching now and I am no longer looking for a wife. Like I was then.[/QUOTE]Good man. Keep the Faith going. I just wrote a loooong self indulgent post before this one. Look for it. It has you written all over it. Peace out, man.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2556748]El Centro is not safe! It wasn't before Covid and it isn't now. Unfortunately too many people here post that it is just as safe as Poblado which is total BS. Why would you be in an area you have to keep a watchful eye out during the day and by no means be there after sundown? Medelland has a lot to offer with a lot more safer venues than el centro.
.[/QUOTE]One has to be on guard. The danger often arises when one let one's guard down. That is how I think anyway. As for danger or not, it's situational.
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2556674]For anybody, not only obvious gringos, should avoid El Centro.
You have been encouraging gringos to come over the Botero for many years despite serious warnings from informed members.
Rateros threw stones at Premier Plaza and other buildings, and some gringos got robbed. A few rateros were swinging 15-20" knives.
You should reflect about what you have been writing for years.[/QUOTE]There are other members on this board who have been frequenting El Centro like myself for years, and I have always cautioned those who are obviuos gringos with no Spanish speaking skills that it can be very dangerous, and so have other members with knowledge and experience there. Yet there have been some posters who brag about them not having problems in El Centro and what's the big deal, but they are the ones who are not "informed" as they have made a few visits, nothing happened, hence in their minds they think it's not dangerous.
As far as reflecting on what I have written about in the past, I wouldn't change a word of it. I believe I have provided some valuable insight from my experiences there, and have actually gotten messages from other members that I am ruining the place, as more and more gringos are discovering the place. And there's some truth to it as the influx of gringos up until a month ago was because Colombia has been the only wide open mongering destination on the planet in my opinion. However, due to the current COVID surge, the protests, and the reduced police presence, El Centro right now is the most dangerous it's ever been.
A month ago it was as though the Pandemic didn't exist, there were no protests, and Police everywhere, there were tourists on tours, and more girls available then ever before. But it's been like a perfect storm with the weekend lockdowns, people up in arms over the Govenment tax proposal and other issues, very little police presence and / or enough to quell all the violence, and hence here we are in a state of Mayhem with the protesters and rateros ruling the streets.
A sad state of affairs for all.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2556631]Listen up, they target the lone, weak and lane wolf so if you hold yourself like a pansy, walk like one, with a look of a deer in the headlamp with no self confidence this is who they target.
It is always the same targets, I have seen this played out in front of me as I have been standing in Botero Plaza.
You need to walk with confidence like you own the fucking place, and yes have awareness at all times, keep your head on a swivel, look at these punks in the eyes so they know not to fuck with you, I know this is hard for many to do, fuck these punks.
And it is not that I have any magical ninja moves rather they know not to fuck with confident people why? Because they will look for the lone, weak minded and easy targets.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]You are wrong. You were not here. This was different. They knew there were no police around so the intensity was amped up along with their courage. Normally 3-4 guys in a group that you have seen. These groups were 5-9 and one group would join another group in chasing someone down that was about to get away. Unless you are a heavyweight MMA guy that can run, you can not beat sheer numbers. These guys had knives, wooden clubs, and throwing rocks. You need to get over yourself. You have one thing which is size. But that is your flaw because you think that scares people and that that alone will save you. Even in your prime you would not have had a chance. These guys were not just going after valuables. They were venting and going after people that they did not like the looks of or acted.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2556585]I thought el centro was just as safe as poblado according to many here 😯
.[/QUOTE]I visited Medellin in October, 2018. I only went to El Centro during the day, but never felt in danger. Visited several casas, had a good time at all, with a great selection at a great price (about 50 k per session). I am not all imposing physically, and speak limited Spanish, but have travelled a lot and know how to carry myself in foreign city.
[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2556790]I visited Medellin in October, 2018. I only went to El Centro during the day, but never felt in danger. Visited several casas, had a good time at all, with a great selection at a great price (about 50 k per session). I am not all imposing physically, and speak limited Spanish, but have travelled a lot and know how to carry myself in foreign city.[/QUOTE]How you "feel" in an environment is irrelevant to the matter, for as Mike Tyson eloquently said, "Everyone has a game plan until they get punched in the mouth. " That said I've done the same, Centro casa runs 2016-19. Most are so close together taking a cab would be about ridiculous. I'd think twice about doing it right now though, and definitely wouldn't in the Botero area. Each to his own and good luck.
[QUOTE=Kafka;2556767]They rolled some boracho with backpack LOL he's so drunk he didn't even know what happened.....[/QUOTE]How do you know he was drunk? It's clear in the video that guy was in a chokehold and beat to sleep. Heck who knows maybe killed. Fck you mean drunk? Centro's definitely not a place to go right now.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2556631]Listen up, they target the lone, weak and lane wolf so if you hold yourself like a pansy, walk like one, with a look of a deer in the headlamp with no self confidence this is who they target.
It is always the same targets, I have seen this played out in front of me as I have been standing in Botero Plaza.
You need to walk with confidence like you own the fucking place, and yes have awareness at all times, keep your head on a swivel, look at these punks in the eyes so they know not to fuck with you, I know this is hard for many to do, fuck these punks.
And it is not that I have any magical ninja moves rather they know not to fuck with confident people why? Because they will look for the lone, weak minded and easy targets.
I know that many of you will take offense to my words, fine so go run away being scared all the time of the dark, and simply don't venture into any areas other than perhaps the estrata 5 and 6 poblado areas.
Much love and respect to all.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Generally speaking what you say is true, before Covid. No matter where I was, on Miguel Lemos in Rio near Help or around the favelas or Lapa or Lima or for that matter in Colombia. I would stare straight at them and walk right towards them and they always shied away. Now, at least in Bogota there are a lot of guns and with the influx of millions of Venezuelans, many of who are desperate, it's a different game. Even the mayor, Lopez has spoke about the shoot first then rob later tactics of them. At one time in my life, I almost wanted one of these punks to try something so I could fuck them up and teach them a lesion. Now however with my years of wisdom I take the different approach. I stay out of bad areas, take taxis or Uber whenever possible and avoid walking ANYWHERE at night. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, can fuck up your trip like being tossed into a jail in Rio or Colombia. Much worse needing medical attention in a hospital that couldn't save someone with a nose bleed. For the new guys entering this hobby always remember 'Safety First' no matter if it's a girl you bring back to your apartment, choosing the right taxi, or having a few drinks. Be safe, have fun and let's hope the riots stop and they relax the protocols.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2556705]If someone finds a prepago and decides he wants to have a relationship with her, he doesn't need a private detective. He needs a therapist.
They're rentals. Do you also try to buy hotel rooms and rental cars?[/QUOTE]
It depends on the situation mate. First of all we are talking about a guy who plans to move permanently in a new place secondly no matter what a guy decides the girl has to agree with him. If she doesn't then nothing will happen. Do you know what BDSM is? I consider myself a submissive who always wants to have sex with my dominatrixes and trust me if a girl is a dominatrix it is really hard to persuade her to have sex with her. If in photoprepagos there are a thousand girls in Medellin area that offer their services there are only 3 Dominatrixes. So how can someone get what he wants in order to be happy in Medellin? Do I need a therapist for my tastes? Maybe but I also need a girl to fullfil my needs.
I don't plan to move in Medellin because I can't work from there I plan to move in Sao Paulo in 3 months. But the same goes with Sao Paulo and to be honest I thought that if someone wants to found out everything about a girl the best way to do it is to hire a PI who has the connections to find everything about someone's past.
[QUOTE=Bookie77;2556843]So how can someone get what he wants in order to be happy in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Pay her? She provides paid service in your case, right?
Are sexyclub amigas and new life open?
[QUOTE=Bookie77;2556843]It depends on the situation mate. First of all we are talking about a guy who plans to move permanently in a new place secondly no matter what a guy decides the girl has to agree with him. I thought that if someone wants to found out everything about a girl the best way to do it is to hire a PI who has the connections to find everything about someone's past.[/QUOTE]What the fuck dude. Why not just find a chick that is not a hooker instead of making every excuse, bending over backwards, peeping around every corner, and spending unnecessary money to make a hooker that will later break your heart your girlfriend? You expect McDonald's to stop selling burgers to everyone else just because you walk in everyday and eat there for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? You can't turn a multi-national restaurant chain into your personal chef. That horse has already left the barn.
You guys continue to do it to yourselves. Generally, relationships of any form are built on trust. You are starting out not trusting the person that you have not even met. This is some real fantasyland shit. You want to send a private eye after a hooker you do not even know yet to make sure she will be faithful to you. If you are a real submissive and she is a real dom, then couldn't she just order you that she will fuck all the men she wants for money and make you shut your fucking mouth about it AND love it? If not, then she has no skills and you should look for someone else anyway! Or maybe you are looking for a submissive dominatrix.. LOL.
Mr. E sums it up pretty well. These girls are unlikely to change for you. Once you've established a p4 p relationship, that's it.
Not to mention, finding a PI in Colombia that you can trust makes it even more problematic.
[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2556728]FYI, for those of you who indulge in the higher price spreads from time to time, Club La Isla is open during weekday Toque de Quedas from 2 to 8 PM. What follows here--my somewhat comical bummer of an experience yesterday at the Club on the hill.
About a month ago during a scouting expedition to the La Isla, I'd gotten the name of a chica who'd rocked on the stripper pole, but was tied-up at a table of big spenders. Last Sunday, out of idle, lockdown curiosity, (and eager to freshen up my stable of chicas who visit me regularly) I contacted La Isla about their hours and whether the chica in question would be working. They replied by WhatsApp in the affirmative and with the above hours of operation.
Yesterday (Monday), around 3:00 PM, I took a taxi up the winding route of Las Palmas to La Isla. No surprise, the doorman told me that my targeted chica wasn't there and that only six ladies had shown up for work so far. I considered heading home, but, out of a "go-with-the-flow" sense of inertia, paid the cover charge to check out the scene. Inside not a soul was in sight (no waiters, no clients, no chicas). However, a staff-member quickly materialized in response to my shouted "Hola! And took me into the dressing room where a half dozen ladies were in various stages of preparation for their working day.
One chica (Ella by name) caught my attention for her J-Lo style looks and by playfully flashing a smile and a perfect set of boobs. I soon was chatting her up over drinks (any opportunity to practice my Spanish). She exuded the vivacity, flirtatiousness, and confident sexuality that I find almost always bodes well for performance in the sackand, up close and personal, looked great even though she hadn't had time to put on her make-up. After 20 minutes or so, getting down to business, I confirmed that she lived 10 minutes from my apartment in Laureles and would happily visit me there. However, when I then mentioned that I hoped for the "trato de novia" (GFE), especially "besos con labia why mamada natural" (DFK / BBBJ), Ella adamantly demurred, insisting on the imperative of keeping herself safe in this time of COVID. My offer of a possible propina and my proof of Moderna vaccinations in my back pocket were of no avail.
Normally, at this point, I would have said, "Thanks for the memories", and jumped in a cab back down the hill. However, the lady really had me turned on, and, coming off the drag of our Friday to Sunday confinement to quarters, I decided on a "what the F", just-this-one-time splurge and took her to a room. For the first half hour, my impulse was amply rewarded. We started off with her standing above me on the bed performing a sexy strip tease, and then twerk dancing in my groin to some funky reggaeton. Unlike most all working girls, throughout the session she seemed equally intent on her own pleasure as well as on mine. In bed, she positioned herself over my face encouraging me to eat her out, while, with one hand on the headboard to steady herself, stroking my rampant member with the other. In time she culminated in what seemed to be a genuine, if modest, orgasm (who knows for sure). After some quality BBBJ (to my surprise, super arousing despite the condomit's been a long time since I've had a covered blowjob), we rotated through CG, Mish, RCG, Cuatro (aka doggie). Super twerk action in all positions, with her eagerly massaging her clit much of the time and moaning with apparent pleasure.
Great session, so far. But when I pulled out from Cuatro to change positions, I noticed that my condom had come off in her vaginamost likely in the process of pulling out, but perhaps sooner. If so, I hadn't noticed. When I brought this to Ella's attention, she went batshitinsisting that I must have known sooner and had tricked her. She fished out the guilty condom, dashed into the shower to flush her pussy clean, and then started to get dressed. I made some attempt (in my semi-fluent Spanish) to get her to calm down, give me the benefit of the doubt, and, most importantly, finish me off by hand. No goshe was soon out the door with 10 or 15 minutes still left in our session.
Mostly for laughs (not out of any genuine sense of indignation), I decided to ask for a partial refund. I related my saga to the bartender / cashier, who passed me along to a senior supervisor, who then called the apparent head honcho (jefe mximo) on his cell. He gave me a patient hearing (I made a point of saying that I understood why she was upset and didn't blame her, but thought I was owed the benefit of the doubt and due a rebate). He went off to talk to Ella, returned to say our stories mostly corresponded, but that she insisted that, in doggie position, I must have known earlier that the condom had slipped offand he'd have to call her a liar to dock part of her payment to refund me.
My Spanish wasn't quite up to arguing persuasively, and, in any event, doubting if a bi-lingual Clarence Darrow or Perry Mason could have won this case), I chalked this up to an anti-climax of an experience, and took a cab back to Laureles. As a final coda to this bummer end of an afternoon, the ride home (normally a 15 minute trip) took about an hour as the on-going demonstrations triggered traffic-jams the length of Avenida 33.[/QUOTE]All's well that ends well.
[QUOTE=BrohamaJohn;2556755]Trust me -- not my proudest days LOL and I could give all the excuses in the world but I won't just know it won't happen again LOL that's why I'm researching now and I am no longer looking for a wife. Like I was then.[/QUOTE]What is going on, pretty much any girl you see is free game. On the street, facebook, tinder, colombian cubid, club, websites. This was a massive fail for the entire monger community.