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[QUOTE=Muccells;3028121]Sure may get blasted or ignored by some women but who cares. LOL. Learn to play on your terms but compromise when its it works for you also. Some stuff out of your control but control what you can.[/QUOTE]Guys should learn early on in life that it is all a numbers game. This meme has been going around on facebook.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028377]Guys should learn early on in life that it is all a numbers game. This meme has been going around on facebook.[/QUOTE]That meme. That's what you come to understand when you fully realize and appreciate that it's [B]money[/B] that makes the world go around, not pussy. They may have the pussy. But we got the money! Richard Pryor said women were in control because they had all the pussy and half the money LOL! But that's only if a man is dumb enough and weak enough to let a woman get her hooks into him. And into his pockets. Men, you have the real power. Act like it!
[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3028318]There has been this hottie that infrequently works utopia. She's extremely finikcky. But the men's excuse only lasts 4 days, right? Then she will have to find another excuse.[/QUOTE]Man they are all here to get fucked.
If she gives some excuses and you can't get her at the price you want, give her more money or forget her.
There's no point of going back to a girl who politely rejected you already.
[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3028320]Lady drink 101 please
does the customer have a say-so at all what the lady drink should be?[/QUOTE]The wait staff likely already knows which drink the gogo dancer wants as a LD. If not they will ask the dancer. Of course you can say to the wait staff I want #835 to have a Singha beer with me. Then they will ask the girl if she wants a Singha beer. If I don't know the girl I may specify up front not so and so drink. Your money so you can be as specific as you want.
But for real LD info these are the more concerning factors. If you are just buying a drink for a girl on stage clarify if she has any other customers she is sitting with already or who have bought her a LD since she's been on stage. Some gogo bars will let the girl off the stage once the drink is brought to your table. Other gogo bars will require the girl to finish her 3 song set before she joins you. If you order her LD on song 1 that means there are 2 more songs for other guys to buy her LD too. If those other guys are more appealing to the girl she will gulp down your drink quickly first then bolt off to the other guys who the girl thinks is more fun, will BF her, or buy her more drinks than you.
[QUOTE=Plant Smoke;3028320]since this girl turned out to be a non-barfining juicer, was this "black and tan" concoction her typical drink?[/QUOTE]
Which gogo bar was this? There are VERY FEW gogo girls who do not BF. This is not Soi 6! More likely the gogo girl didn't want to go with you than she doesn't BF. Also possible that she was already BF and her customer is returning. Easy to check if that story is true cause you can confirm that with mamasan or you can try booking her on another night and see what her story is.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;3027717]Topic, It is missed because many stereotype want to continue to blame the Asian for what WS, has become today!
If there is a price problem today it comes from the West not the Asians, guys were high and dry using popular " Porn Hub " buying drinks on Soi 6 playing with themselves when opened they came with their vaccine card and insurance and pay what was expected so today we got what we got. The regular Asians that visited WS prior started to head to Soi 6, and what we have on Soi 6, yes is Asian driven but what they overpay today was what they were playing on WS prior.
These owners created the storm that is here now this high season will it come crashing and what goes around come around. LOL![/QUOTE]You have some interesting observations, but I entirely disagree with your assessment that guys from the west who returned caused prices to jump after the communist China exported virus. We were in small numbers I might add. We did not pay what we were told to pay, we tried to keep things sane. Remember that for us, its an expensive 18 to 25 hour connecting fly times. No $300 RT, non-stop flights.
That problem lands squarely on the asian men who can fly non stop to LOS in three hours. Asian men created and own the pay-as-told stereotype. Hell, they invented it. The entire "save-face" stupidity. Can't act like I am cheap, so pay 8000 for ST on Soi 6, save face to my buddies. Dumb but did. And this also flies in the face of everything I saw back then and continued to see in 2023 and 2024. The pay what they were told moniker belongs to these new eastern asian men, Korean, Japanese, Malaysian, Hong Kong Singapore dudes. Those plastic clogs pajama wearing boys are known by the girls on Soi 6 especially to be dumb marks for paying outrageous ST amounts. Have to "save-face". This came up specifically from more than one wg on 6 who flat out avoided them as many treated them badly, like meat in a display case, were socially awkward, did find them fun to be with. Just money, and it seemed that it worked for many but certainly not all of the wg. Remember the wg choose us most of the time, especially on Soi 6. Some like asians, some like farang, some like chocolate. There are enough there to match up eventually.
Now Indians are rampaging on south walking street but that plaque is extending. Thai landlords renting the massive warehouse sized Indian themed nightclubs that has brought tens of thousands of low value men to the area. This will have consequences the moment that demographic slips up. Just like the China tourism has.
Agreed that this high season is most likely to be a serious day of reckoning. The post China virus revenge travel has long past. Landlords, owners, managers and WG have overpriced and have not adjusted. The typical stupid business practice to increase prices to make up for less business is still vibrate and well in LOS. To be determined how that turns out this time.
[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3028320]5. why can't you say "the lady will have a singha beer" or the "lady will have a rum and coke"?
6. does the customer have a say-so at all what the lady drink should be?[/QUOTE]Of course you can. Who told you that you can not? The rare times that I buy a lady drink, it is usually the same Sang Som on ice that I am drinking.
Som Ting Wong.
Koreans paying 8% short time on Soi 6?
Who s face are they Saving. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Achmmc;3028477]You have some interesting observations, but I entirely disagree with your assessment that guys from the west who returned caused prices to jump after the communist China exported virus. We were in small numbers I might add. We did not pay what we were told to pay, we tried to keep things sane. Remember that for us, its an expensive 18 to 25 hour connecting fly times. No $300 RT, non-stop flights.
That problem lands squarely on the asian men who can fly non stop to LOS in three hours. Asian men created and own the pay-as-told stereotype. Hell, they invented it. The entire "save-face" stupidity. Can't act like I am cheap, so pay 8000 for ST on Soi 6, save face to my buddies. Dumb but did. And this also flies in the face of everything I saw back then and continued to see in 2023 and 2024. The pay what they were told moniker belongs to these new eastern asian men, Korean, Japanese, Malaysian, Hong Kong Singapore dudes. Those plastic clogs pajama wearing boys are known by the girls on Soi 6 especially to be dumb marks for paying outrageous ST amounts. Have to "save-face". This came up specifically from more than one wg on 6 who flat out avoided them as many treated them badly, like meat in a display case, were socially awkward, did find them fun to be with. Just money, and it seemed that it worked for many but certainly not all of the wg. Remember the wg choose us most of the time, especially on Soi 6. Some like asians, some like farang, some like chocolate. There are enough there to match up eventually.
Now Indians are rampaging on south walking street but that plaque is extending. Thai landlords renting the massive warehouse sized Indian themed nightclubs that has brought tens of thousands of low value men to the area. This will have consequences the moment that demographic slips up. Just like the China tourism has.
Agreed that this high season is most likely to be a serious day of reckoning. The post China virus revenge travel has long past. Landlords, owners, managers and WG have overpriced and have not adjusted. The typical stupid business practice to increase prices to make up for less business is still vibrate and well in LOS. To be determined how that turns out this time.[/QUOTE]Disagree, You noted all the stuff which is relevant prior to Covid, I didn't say nor dispute that fact! The key everything you justify is " PRIOR " I don't like to say " was you here " " I was because I live here year round except for two weeks for the last 20 years.
You pretty much made my opinion because although a small number at that time the ONLY number! when it opened the only people who were let in were those who had vaccine paper and could buy the insurance that was required to come in! That small number is what started the pattern. What I see today at GoGo, I don't go to Soi 6, lots of Asians but they aren't BFing, you will get some regardless of race, I've said there seen Asian pay 7000-10,000 and I sat there and seen Westerners. But friend the girls I know and drink with although they are lookers aren't getting BF much any longer it is drinks and more drinks. Today one of the girls I know was a top earner at a top GoGo prior to Covid, based on pay, rather go with older guys particularly older ones in 60's than Asian, the old days she get BF all night, tag along to Hollywood put up with all their Macho be. S. For 4000 baht.
Although the flights for Asian are short in this case it isn't relevant why because many of the Airlines weren't operating to Thailand yet! I'm not saying my opinion is correct but there was an incident where I was sitting at one of their favorite owner food places they thinking I couldn't understand English overheard their so call plan to monopolize the business through selling drinks. Having boots on the ground while you and many were waiting for you vaccine isn't fact but it is lot closer to your opinion.
If you are a member of that particular website, I'm not longer because I was kicked out for just the view I'm sharing now because I called out one of their moderators who was at this meeting! You can go back to this site if a member to 2022 if still the conversation is still there you can see for yourself as to what I'm talking particularly with the club Pin Up. Being able to create another account I check in from time to time, the bad boys opinions they don't like put you in their little Lady boy thread to try to put you down this is what they did to me, I took them to basically ' Go fuck himself " and that is the ass-so Brian Flowers!
Indian, have nothing to do with this conversation on W.S. they have their own venues to entertain themselves because still they aren't allow to enter the GoGo although that has been relaxed a bit!
[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3028320]You know admittedly I have not done a lot of Pattaya forum reading. But I believe there is a need, from experienced Pattaya member.
For a ladies drink 101 post. Why?
Ok the other night I told staff I wanted to "lady drink" a dancer on stage. While (at pin-up) she was dancing, the lady drink was brought.
It was a shot glass within another glass (isn't that how a black and tan is made? She, ther dancer I chose, sat down and juiced me..[/QUOTE]Guess you haven't been out or did this before. A lady drink will usually be choice of the lady. You can't force her to drink something she doesn't like, that doesn't make sense at all. Money has power but when you start demanding a way to dictate things upon other people those people are usually pricks because they have "money". I was buying a drink for a girl the other night and she drank juice. Says she can't drink alcohol its not good for her. Did I care, no its her preference just like I don't usually drink beer.
Now I know many women will drink tequila as it a stable in the lady drink realm. I've tasted it, its watered down and cheap tequila. You also must have never been to T. J. Hong Kong club has these mini beers bottles for lady drink (brown), sometime they just fill it with water.
Next time maybe before you buy a drink (most of time I think all the same price) as the lady what she likes to drink. The lady last night I had like "Samsom". It's a Thai whiskey and they add tonic water.
Your paying for an overpriced drink but its really the company your paying for don't get it twisted,.
Why would you worry about what a lady drinks?? Unless you want strong alcohol just order straight tequila shots (still watered down) but if you are trying to get them more playful that would be the route. Shots are the way to go if you are trying to get the most for your buck alcohol wise for her (shots may cost more though) If you want to click to the chase, find one to your liking buy her a drink (wait till she sits down with you if you really want to ask her what's she's drinking) then bar fine her and go to a regular bar and buy what you both agree on.
The whole push though every 2 minutes for a drink gets annoying. Tell them straight up you are only going to buy drinks every 10 minutes. Another route is go to the gentlemen's clubs. They ladies sometimes are as pushy and a bit more relaxed environment.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;3028447]The wait staff likely already knows which drink the gogo dancer wants as a LD. If not they will ask the dancer. Of course you can say to the wait staff I want #835 to have a Singha beer with me. Then they will ask the girl if she wants a Singha beer. If I don't know the girl I may specify up front not so and so drink. Your money so you can be as specific as you want.
But for real LD info these are the more concerning factors. If you are just buying a drink for a girl on stage clarify if she has any other customers she is sitting with already or who have bought her a LD since she's been on stage. Some gogo bars will let the girl off the stage once the drink is brought to your table. Other gogo bars will require the girl to finish her 3 song set before she joins you. If you order her LD on song 1 that means there are 2 more songs for other guys to buy her LD too. If those other guys are more appealing to the girl she will gulp down your drink quickly first then bolt off to the other guys who the girl thinks is more fun, will BF her, or buy her more drinks than you.[/QUOTE]I sort of disagree with your observation that,"there are very few gogo girls who do not BF". When you start talking about eights and nines, the finickier they get. Also they are much more likely to live off lady drinks, going from customer to customer. This particular girl was from pin-up; short sassoon style haircut.
Have you ever tried to barfine the girls at sxs that wear white uniforms? The girls for whatever reason that don't show their boobs? There are some eights, as well as a nine or two.
These girls are especially choosy.
I think what you were referring to was mostly the sixes, who barfine when asked because they don't know when the offer will come again. Hotties can choose to barfine every other night.
As well, or even every three or four days.
Speaking of sxs, after mamasan interrogation, it was understood short time bar fine was only 1500. It is my observation that when you have the same brand of business, whatever it is, adjacent to.
One another, there is a written or unwritten agreement, that those businesses will not under-cut one another. So how is sxs getting away with this without pissing off the entire block?
Lady drinks? What percentage of girls finish a wine cooler at your hotel? 10 percent?. My point is the girl, would be at your table forever, drinking a singha beer. Maybe in the old days.
But now I doubt the bar would allow it.
In conclusion it should be said that every go go bar chick bar-fines if tom cruise comes thru the saloon door; but as a girl ascends the 10-scale, those nights she decides ahead of time she is just going to accept lady drinks that night become more frequent and more frequent.
SO tell me this my friend:
What are the drinks you won't allow? Seems like apple juice is a juicer favorite.
And what are the drinks that you want her to drink? Seems the goal here is to gert her to drink alcohol so she will drink more slowly? Unfortunately now you hasve two issues to battle with.
Does she barfine, and getting her to drink what you want.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;3028424]Man they are all here to get fucked.
If she gives some excuses and you can't get her at the price you want, give her more money or forget her.
There's no point of going back to a girl who politely rejected you already.[/QUOTE]It seems this information that all soi 6 and walking street go-gos chicks barfine is inaccurate. You ever deal with a hottie greeter standing in the street.
On soi 6? At some-time they are all there to get fucked, but as of right now, there is plenty of girls that don't fuck.
Boofies the other night two girls in tandem, like best of friends, arrive late 830, sure sign of freelancer, and start juicing the bar.
I'd go back to a girl that rejected me. I just had a girl that told me the canker sore excuse, and several days later everything was fine.
Thai girls by a very very large margin are the least reliable chick on the planet, based on TF encounters. They think a 1400 meeting, is the time they should leave the house 50 percent, for me, of TF encounters they never show.
Included in this personality package is moodiness. Like a faucet. They can turn on at any time. More than not, the turning on of the faucet coincides with when they need money.
You don't know why she said her stomach hurts, maybe she had family problems that day.
[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;3028316]......Turns out it was a product called Sabiana. Suppositories! Suppositories that apparently were not "dry" but created some sort of creme! I'm fucking paying money to fuck a vaginal sewer? WTF. IN 2025 Do you have to tell a Pattaya hooker, "Please don't stuff anything in your pussy![/QUOTE]I have encountered pussy stuffers in Asia and occasionally in Europe; so fucking annoying. Fortunately I have not experienced this in Latin America.
Quick question for the seasoned among us, as I'm musing on booking my third trip.
When taking a girl to the hotel for LT, what's the furthest distance that the girl would be agreeable to walk? Goes without saying that anything cross town would warrant a bike or taxi, but what about, for example, would you guys say if you were bringing a girl from treetown to a hotel near LKMetro? Or Boomerang to LKMetro? What about a walk from the 6 to one of the hotels on soi 5?
I know the correct answer would be to ask the girl, but I'm OCD when it comes to being aware of all my options. And I am quite afraid of riding one of those bike taxis. While drunk. With a girl holding on.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3028624]Quick question for the seasoned among us, as I'm musing on booking my third trip.
When taking a girl to the hotel for LT, what's the furthest distance that the girl would be agreeable to walk? Goes without saying that anything cross town would warrant a bike or taxi, but what about, for example, would you guys say if you were bringing a girl from treetown to a hotel near LKMetro? Or Boomerang to LKMetro? What about a walk from the 6 to one of the hotels on soi 5?
I know the correct answer would be to ask the girl, but I'm OCD when it comes to being aware of all my options. And I am quite afraid of riding one of those bike taxis. While drunk. With a girl holding on.[/QUOTE]Every girl is different. I've had some who want me to ride 200 meters on the back of their motor cycle and others who are happy to walk 1 km. In Bangkok I use a lot of tuk tuks.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;3028624]When taking a girl to the hotel for LT, what's the furthest distance that the girl would be agreeable to walk? [/QUOTE]I usually look at their shoes. If she's wearing high heels, I use whatever transportation available unless my hotel is really close. To be honest, this is the one of the last things I worry. Just start to walk and if she wants to take a ride, go with it.