Moscow

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo;1284751]Dear friends, I'm flying to moscow soon. What are your best advices for hottest girls? Aurora? Paradise? Something else.[/QUOTE]Can you be more specific? What are you after? Strippers? Prostitutes? Normal girls? Please specify. How long are you in Moscow for? How much do you want to spend? Where are you staying? Hotel? Apartment? Help us help you. Otherwise read the forum.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1285345]Can you be more specific? What are you after? Strippers? Prostitutes? Normal girls? Please specify. How long are you in Moscow for? How much do you want to spend? Where are you staying? Hotel? Apartment? Help us help you. Otherwise read the forum.[/QUOTE]I'm comming for 3-4 days. I'm mostly to stippers and pros, but really beautiful ones and young. As I know moscow is expensive my budjet is about 500$/the, but I'm flexible. Looking for quality and not quantity. One or 2 stripper or pro will suffice for a whole trip. What would you suggest me Jake?

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo;1285363]I'm comming for 3-4 days. I'm mostly to stippers and pros, but really beautiful ones and young. As I know moscow is expensive my budjet is about 500$/the, but I'm flexible. Looking for quality and not quantity. One or 2 stripper or pro will suffice for a whole trip. What would you suggest me Jake?[/QUOTE]Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.

[url]www.rusdosug.com[/url]

And see if there's anything that tickles your fancy. You have to go down a couple of pages though because the first page is often crowded by African girls (not that there's anything wrong with African girls) and some people get the impression that it's a site mainly for Africans. Not true. There are also some high end girls that can be found on the internet. Non come to mind right away but let me think for a bit. Of corse, you SHOULD try Night Flight once just to see it. You may be pleasantly surprised as it's summer time and there are often some visiting girls who come to NF to earn some extra cash.

Good luck and have fun!

Jake

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1286029]Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.

[url]www.rusdosug.com[/url]

Good luck and have fun!

Jake[/QUOTE]I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1286029]Ronaldinjo. For quality strippers, try Aurora 911, Penthouse and The Loft (Loft is across the street from Crown Plaza). All three have sex on site available if that's what you would like. At $500 a pop you will get some nice stuff. Outside the strip clubs you might troll.

[url]www.rusdosug.com[/url]

And see if there's anything that tickles your fancy. You have to go down a couple of pages though because the first page is often crowded by African girls (not that there's anything wrong with African girls) and some people get the impression that it's a site mainly for Africans. Not true. There are also some high end girls that can be found on the internet. Non come to mind right away but let me think for a bit. Of corse, you SHOULD try Night Flight once just to see it. You may be pleasantly surprised as it's summer time and there are often some visiting girls who come to NF to earn some extra cash.

Good luck and have fun!

Jake[/QUOTE]Thanks Jake. I might go once or max. Twise to strip clubs, so if you could choose only one which is the best club (aurora? Penthouse? Loft?) with best looking girl and best service? Is 500$ will suffice for pop and entrance and drink or what amount of money I should expect to spend for one beautiful girl? What is one hour price? And finally what is night flight? Ordinary club or pro territory?

With respect, Ronaldinjo

[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1286230]I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?[/QUOTE]It would be interesting to hear from anyone who's partaken of that venue to know more. It certainly looks way too good to be true, with all 3 holes being advertised for such low rates, etc. But stranger things have happened in this world. Maybe we're missing out on a real good deal without knowing. Personally I'm suspicious. If I hadn't been getting my brains fucked out while I was there, I might've been tempted enough to TOFTT. Maybe next time!

The Tanuki (plotting his return visit already.

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo; 1286606]Thanks Jake. I might go once or max. Twise to strip clubs, so if you could choose only one which is the best club (aurora? Penthouse? Loft?) with best looking girl and best service? Is 500$ will suffice for pop and entrance and drink or what amount of money I should expect to spend for one beautiful girl? What is one hour price? And finally what is night flight? Ordinary club or pro territory?

With respect, Ronaldinjo[/QUOTE]The Loft, Penthouse and Aurora 911 are all owned by the same group so things are pretty consistent in all three clubs. I personally like Aurora as it's more Russian, whereas a lot of people like Penthouse because it has more of an American feel. The Loft is brand new so it has the BEST looking girls (for now) so that might be the one to try. If you want onsite sex for one hour, it's going to cost you at least $500 when you consider entrance, drinks, private room, and other dances while you are checking out the talent so budget accordingly. Maybe $700 all inclusive.

Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.

When are you planning to be in Moscow?

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1286803]The Loft, Penthouse and Aurora 911 are all owned by the same group so things are pretty consistent in all three clubs. I personally like Aurora as it's more Russian, whereas a lot of people like Penthouse because it has more of an American feel. The Loft is brand new so it has the BEST looking girls (for now) so that might be the one to try. If you want onsite sex for one hour, it's going to cost you at least $500 when you consider entrance, drinks, private room, and other dances while you are checking out the talent so budget accordingly. Maybe $700 all inclusive.

Night Flight is somewhat of an institution in Moscow. At one time, it was the BEST pro bar in Moscow. Some will say that it still is. Most of the girls there are University students looking to make extra money. I was there a few months ago with a friend who was visiting Moscow for the first time and some of the girls were solid 9's. Very nice indeed. Best nights for the best girls at Night Flight are Tues, Wed, Thurs. Weekends are slow because they tend to cater to foreigners in Moscow on business. It will cost you about $40 entry fee and the girls at Night flight will go home with you for anywhere from $350. $600 depending on quality and your negotiating skills. But be careful, while the Night Flight girls are gorgeous, it has been said that they are ot the best "performers" when it comes to the bedroom so be sure to interview well to avoid surprises.

When are you planning to be in Moscow?[/QUOTE]Thank you for information Jack. Planning my visitation either in July or in September / October. When do you think best time to come summer or autumn? Maybe in summer most of moscow beautiful WG will travell to overseas. I will deffinitely will try one of 3 strip clubs, maybe the The Loft if there are best looking girls as you say. And of course Night Flight visitation is on my plan now after your reccomendation. I'm planning to travel for 3-4 days. Jake, is Night Flight close to center? What is the best time to arrive there? 9pm or later? What are percentage of pros there? What are taxy prices from NF to hotel in the centre? Thank you and sorry for anoying questions.

With respect, Ronaldinjo

Ronald,

My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. . .

Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.

After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.

The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, [b]in the morning[/b]. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.

Percentage of pros? 100%

DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline, "Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 руб., but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 руб. If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.

When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.

Welcome to the club! :)

[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1287507]Ronald,

My advice is to stay away from Night Flight, but if you are bound and determined to go then this is the best strategy. .

Go to have dinner first, there is no entry fee. Arrive about 20:00. The restaurant is upstairs. You don't need a table, you can be served at the bar. Sit at the bar and have dinner. While you are there, the girls will begin visiting upstairs from the nightclub below. Ostensibly to use the bathrooms, but they are not above checking out who looks ripe for the picking in the restaurant while they are there. It'll give you a chance to gauge the talent available for the night.

After you have finished dinner, had a few drinks and feel like you are ready to be thoroughly sheared, you can head downstairs to the nightclub. There shouldn't be an entry fee if you are coming from the restaurant. Grab a drink and the dyeffki will proposition you. The rest should be pretty much self explanatory.

The best negotiating advice I can give you is to make it very clear to the girl that you will not pay her until after you are satisfied and she leaves, [b]in the morning[/b]. That should weed out about 80% of the dyeffki there. If she is willing to agree to that, then you might have a chance at enjoying yourself.

Percentage of pros? 100%

DO NOT take a taxi parked in front of the club, or you will get fleeced (this happens a lot at NF). Politely decline,"Nyet, spasibah" will do. Walk down Tverskaya a ways and wait for a taxi on the boulevard. Taxi fare to a hotel in the center is about 100 &1088; &1091; &1073; , but as a tourist, you will probably have to pay 300 &1088; &1091; &1073; . If the taxist wants more, may as well walk, it's not that far.

When it's all over, you can add your report about how you got screwed (so to speak) at Night Flight, to the reports of all the other disappointed mongers who suffered the same fate.

Welcome to the club! .[/QUOTE]Strav,

When were you at Night Flight last?

With all due respect you are talking out of your ASS!

Ronaldo clearly knows the going price of pussy and has said he will pay, so why steer him away? With a name like Ronaldinjo, he's probably Latino and has plenty of experience at negotiating with the Putas. So why be a kill joy? True, some of the biggest posers and rip off artists are at NF but there are some diamonds there too. The colleague I took there a month ago met a GORGEOUS 28 year old whom he did not take home that night (because we were making the rounds and it was still early). But he got her phone number and met up with her the next night for dinner and 6 hours of wild sex. Turns out she's a realtor and single Mom who needed some attention and some extra money.

So PLEASE don't paint the picture that NF is 100% piranha pit. If it was it would have closed down LONG ago.

Things are not ALWAYS as they appear.

Jake.

PS. Ronaldinjo, if you want any more info from me (who actually lives in Moscow) send me a PM.

1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!

I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.

Poland? Romania? Lativa? Moldova? Belurus? Estonia? Lithuania? New Zealand? Other remote Russian city?

Jake,

My, my, my. . . we are testy today aren't we? Always happy to hear from you, Jake. :)

It's been a long time since we've had any regular intel from the guys on the ground in Moscow. Doc and Pizdyets disappeared long time ago, and the guys who remain are not offering much. . . are they?

In the meantime there has been a flurry of newbies, mostly of the Hi-I-will-be-in-Moscow-next-week-for-3-days-what-should-I-do variety. Of course, they have no desire to avail themselves of the wealth of accumulated experience here, and this has led to a lot of speculation, mainly of the blind-leading-the-blind variety. Apparently now, we are even resorting to racial profiling?

My concern, specifically, is that other guys reading this board will think that 300 or 500 (USD or Euro, what's the diff?) is pretty much the going rate to get laid in Moscow.

As we all know, nothing could be further from the truth. So, I'm simply interjecting a reality check.

I will rain on anyone's parade, anytime I feel like it. I'm sure Ronaldinjo is a big boy and he can make his own choices for himself. If you don't agree, you can always offer your version. That's how the process works usually works.

It's true, I haven't visited Night Flight in a couple years. It's been in a long period of decline for the last 10 years. Last time, there was no one there even remotely do-able (by Russian standards, not American), and they were asking prices that were simply ridiculous. But, maybe I'm wrong (it has happened before) and there has been a tectonic shift in their operation that requires further investigation.

I will leave you with a Sextalk report from a native Muscovite about his experience at Night Flight. Clearly this report is dated: no one has asked 8,000 руб. at NF for a long time. But I think it is still relevant, until proven otherwise.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=791200#post791200[/url]

[QUOTE=Hbengkok; 1286230]I browsed that site and find out some of the girls charge under $ 100 / hour. Does anyone have experience from that lower priced girls? Too good to be true satisfying experience?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I had plenty of nice to amazing experience at 3000, 4000, 5000 rubles. But I speak Russian so it helps I guess. But I can confirm that 3000 rur can be the entry price for a girl in a medium class bordelo where you can find sometimes the new jem arriving from her province and delighted to have a stranger in her bed. Or you can simply meet the total pro who will do whatever you want for 4000 rur as it is her price and that's it.

Please note that usually 3000 or 4000 is the price for suck and fuck. Any additional service or fantasy is usually a way for the girl to earn more and shall be priced, depending on the service you ask, at 1000 or 2000 rur additional.

Jake93,

I will be visiting Moscow soon but I want to have sex in the club not in my hotel.

Are there any clubs like this?

If yes, which one is the best?

Thanks in advance.

Naykan

[QUOTE=MrBoring37; 1287569]1) What other country or city other than moscow can I go to that has CHEAPER AND BETTER white women with freelance clubs or bars like nightflight!

I been looking for the inexpensive version of night flight for years LOL.[/QUOTE]This sounds like you expect to find Gisele Bundchen in the back section at WalMart, buddy. That may not be a realistic expectation in life. The global market rates for WG's have changed in the past few years. Even out here in Asia it's not easy to waltz into town (take your pick: Sing, HK, Beijing, etc) and find good quality shags at the prices we remember from the past. Exceptions happen but are not the norm now. My philosophy is to work at finding the women who I can have a great time with, and not be overly concerned about the cost anymore. Hell, I spent a small fortune on the freebie there in Moscow in April. Can't wait to see her again, either! But you'll have to figure out that balance for yourself. Mostly you'll find that the better research you do ahead of time, you can avoid some of the painful and costly mistakes that the brothers here have shared for your benefit. But for a quick and quality in / out session, I suspect the FKK clubs in Germany should be on your bucket list. I've only been to one in Frankfurt, The Palace, and would highly recommend that. Once you've paid to get in, it's only 50 Euros for the basic fuck. Some of the ladies there are quite good at the trade, too. For Russia though, if you let on to the woman that you're a cheapskate, her opinion of you is going to plummet and you'll lose out on a better time, far as I can see.

The Tanuki