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[QUOTE=Uncle Goober; 1104411]CT. Laguna is RIP as of last Saturday night. Pity.
The space was purchased by the owners of the former Fenwicks. Now this is getting interesting.
Best seasonal wishes to you, CT. Take care my friend.
Cheers. [/QUOTE]I walked by on Sunday evening and it was quite busy. And my friends that go there said it is not being sold. Where are you getting this information?
Many of the forums have a Travel / Announcements section, but not Hong Kong. Perhaps Jackson will take note? . Anyway, about to spend 4-6 weeks in HKG just in time for Chinese New Year. I've read post after post. Candidly, it's confusing when you try putting it all together. If someone would like to play 'wing man' for a night or two, I'd be happy to pay for the 'tour guide' service, if not directly, then at least meals, alcohol, and / or entertainment in exchange. Send me a private message and we'll talk. Happy hobbying.
[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu;1104417]I walked by on Sunday evening and it was quite busy. And my friends that go there said it is not being sold. Where are you getting this information?[/QUOTE]I spoke 2 weeks ago with one of these guys from Traffik. They indeed rent the place and will open a Bar soon. They won't call it Fenwicks, because they don't want to touch the memories. Traffik will continue where it is now and he didn't know if Laguna will move to 2nd floor in that building.
[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu;1104417]Where are you getting this information?[/QUOTE]Clearly from a different source than you.
*wink*
Cheers and advance Merry Christmas to all. I'm off to Phuket.
Thanks. Based on your advice I went with the Shangri La Kowloon and thenMandarin Oriental Macau, MGM was booked.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1104309]Is there any downside to staying in Kowloon? None. HK Island and Kowloon are different for sure. Each has their pros and cons. I have stayed in both areas and like them almost equally although for different reasons. HK Island has Wanchai Bars. 141 hotel reservation girls, Soho, Causeway Bay, great restaurants and perhaps is a little less touristy. Tsim Sha Tsui has Hari's. 37 Dundas, a little better selection of 141 hotel reservation girls (IMHO) , great restaurants and a lot of character. I use Hong Kong as my gateway city into and out of South East Asia. For my upcoming trip, I will spend a few days on HK Island before departing for Macau and PI. Upon my triumphant return 40 days later, I will stay in East Tsim Sha Tsui for the last few days on the trip.
I have read your post in the Macau thread and I think you want to stay in the better hotels and are looking for high class attractive girls. If this is the case, then Kowloon may be slightly better for you (Hari's). But it is only a short taxi ride to the Wanchai bars if you don't like what you see in Kowloon. The bottom line is it really will not matter much which side of the harbor you stay on.
Macau is different. The best action is on Macau Peninsula. Your idea to stay at the MGM is sound. Explore Taipa, Cotai, and Coloane in the daytime if you get bored. [/QUOTE]
Coming back for around a month, thought I would go see how everything was. Came back last Thursday, decided to check out Phoenix apartments in Causeway bay. It's very convenient, walk out the times square exit on the MTR and its just round the corner, next the the mall with the big apple above it. It was fairly early, in the afternoon, so not many girls were working then, but managed to ring the bell of a nice looking girl on the third floor. Nice body, pretty smile, boobs. Walked in, asked for a massage in Mandarin. It was good, she took her time, really put in some good effort. Lasted for almost 35 minutes (the deal was for 90 minutes). Brought out the oil and had some fun with that too, bodyslides and all. Let me feel her up, and allowed access of my fingers really anywhere. Got down to business, we were chatting the whole time. Put on the condom, and blew me until I was fully ready, then hopped on and rode me for a while. She asked to switch positions after a while and we finished in missionary, me inside the condom. Was nice, damage was 600HKD, I'd say it was a fair price, but one complaint is that she started rushing me at around 1 hour. In the end it was around 1 hour 15 minutes.
Second girl was in North Point, just a few days ago, after dinnertime at around 8pm, at the Coronet Court. I'd been around Phoenix again but didn't look good, so thought I'd head down to North Point. It was very busy, both the number of girls and number of men. When I arrived, it seemed that all the nice girls had been taken and there were guys queuing up waiting. I was walking around looking at all the pictures on the doors. I was standing in front of one when it opened and a lady, who looked like she was 40, wrinkles and all wearing a schoolgirl uniform came out and asked me to come inside. I refused and walked away promptly. I rang the bell of another, and this one was better, but just not my type. Also, I'd made a promise to walk away that day if anything didn't feel right (I think I might be too nice about it sometimes). I was about to give up when a guy down the hall rang a doorbell in front of me and refused the girl who opened. I caught a flash of her and liked what I saw from that, so decided to ring to make sure. She was a short, skinny young girl with small breasts and a fairly pretty face. Her defining feature for me though was her big, full, puffy lips. They looked delicious. She offered a price of $350 and I walked right in. I felt a bit bad once I got in because it looked like she was in the middle of dinner. She paid quite thorough attention in the shower, and sat me down on the bed, chatting. Kissed and touched each other all over, and slipped the condom on. Blowjob was too quick, and not quite as satisfying as I imagined it would be, but she hopped on and we did the deed. Switched a few positions, kissed and kissed, took off the condom close to the end and had her finish me with her hand, all over herself. Smiled, talked while we showered together, and helped me put my clothes back on. Gave her $400 and walked out. Was around 50 minutes.
Planning to go around to Macau soon, maybe, for the famed D2 special, and if I can pluck up the courage, call up Causeway bay's Cherry's agent (on the website) and fix up a time with her. I've got almost 3 weeks left, it's going to be good. I've never played during Christmas though, how is it around those days?
So I started off at 10. Hit most of the obvious spots with the exception of Laguna and Traffik and Rock School.
I like Neptunes III except for the fact that the 'manager' is there. This old lady comes up and says she's the 'mama' and to tell her what girl I want. WTF? Since when does that shit go on? Prostitution is legal here but pimping ain't and that's pimping. No wonder the cops raid the places and make it hard for the Filipinos to get here.
I liked one waitress in Neptunes III more than any of the girls and I wonder what it would take to go out with her. She looks like a sweetie.
So I amble around. There were a ton of school kids. I guess 18 to 21 year olds. Wandering around but generally behaving themselves. It's their school holiday and I forgot about this sort of thing from last year.
Oddly, some of the girls came in to Neptune's III. And they were hot.
So I wandered around some more and chatted up a STUNNING well-dressed Thai woman in Joe Banana's, a place I usually avoid. From the looks of the place, it had more Thai women than, say, Neptune's.
The woman quoted me $3K HK for LT and $1500 HK ST. I'm sure she would have been the one woman who would actually be worth that price but I said no and left.
I go back to Neptune's III and my waitress is hanging out in front. She asks me what I want and I say - pretending to be a nice guy - to see good band. She then walks me all the way over to some bar near Typhoon. That was full of kids. I should admit that they surprised me compared to similar kids in America. No rowdiness or shoving or fighting. She introduces me to some kid who was helping the band. I couldn't hear shit he said but he motioned for a beer and got me one for free. Too nice.
The band rocked it and I had a good time despite being 3 times the age of every person in there.
Then I went back to Boracay and the girls' manager was there blatantly intervening in my deal. It was just ridiculous. Gone was the relative subtlety the scene once offered. I asked the woman why she was there but didn't hear/understand her response.
I just put my hands up and walked out.
Then I headed back to Neptune's II and felt like it was time to seal the deal. I didn't want to call a regular so I was on the hunt for the new strange.
Some Cambodian came up to me in Neptune's and finally agreed to $1500 HK LT but I could tell she was going to try to get more. She was so hot that I didn't care.
She wasn't too greedy as she just said if she was good, I would give her $2000 HK LT which is not totally a rip-off compared to the $3K fatter Thai woman.
Anyway, we get back and it's like a porn movie. I quickly decide I'm going to get my rocks off twice quickly and let her go rather than pay her more. She asked for $100 for a taxi and I was nice and gave it to her.
A bit mechanical but she looked awesome doing her mechanical act and I had a really good, filthy time for 2 hours.
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[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1104939]I like Neptunes III except for the fact that the 'manager' is there. This old lady comes up and says she's the 'mama' and to tell her what girl I want.
I liked one waitress in Neptunes III more than any of the girls and I wonder what it would take to go out with her. She looks like a sweetie.
I go back to Neptune's III and my waitress is hanging out in front. She asks me what I want and I say. Pretending to be a nice guy. To see good band. She then walks me all the way over to some bar near Typhoon. She wasn't too greedy as she just said if she was good, I would give her $2000 HK LT which is not totally a rip-off compared to the $3K fatter Thai woman.
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[/QUOTE]I know the mamasan you are talking about. Her name is Perla. She is not really too bad once you get to know her and I always let her think she is the tops. You can always just ignore her but they do look after their girls in there. The Manager is Sam -a good guy. Once you are a regular they put the odd bottle of beer up so that can't be too bad. Both of them have just moved from Galaxy where they were working before.
I think I know the waitress as well. A nice girl always smiling. I thought about going out with her but they work until late. She is available. The singer in the band is also available, but I had to wait until 3. 00am and had found someone else by then.
I see from the photographs you are back in the same hotel!!
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1104975]I know the mamasan you are talking about. Her name is Perla. She is not really too bad once you get to know her and I always let her think she is the tops. You can always just ignore her but they do look after their girls in there. The Manager is Sam.a good guy. Once you are a regular they put the odd bottle of beer up so that can't be too bad. Both of them have just moved from Galaxy where they were working before.
I think I know the waitress as well. A nice girl always smiling. I thought about going out with her but they work until late. She is available. The singer in the band is also available, but I had to wait until 3. 00am and had found someone else by then.
I see from the photographs you are back in the same hotel! [/QUOTE]I think the idea of the manager just annoyed me because of my bad experience Sunday with one of my former regulars. She had an agent was in debt already and just had become a bit more jaded.
Admittedly, the manager in Neptune's III was just an odd idea and she wasn't totally offensive about it. Still, what are the chances of getting $1K HK LT when the manager will most likely be there and starting with a higher opening price? And the manager gets all the money in that case?
The waitress you are referring to might be a different girl. This one is Filipino, a bit young, baby fat, very cute looking.
You think it's worth an effort to wait it out until 3 AM? I don't want to be an ugly American and just *assume* that everyone can be had for a price but. She is a cutie.
Looks like I'll have to go out for a while at least, tomorrow night as I made it clear to my family I had plans but looks like my friend's won't make it back in time for Christmas eve, or already have plans. May head down to Wan Chai. I'm a young Asian guy so I stick out like a sore thumb as soon as I enter the Wan Chai bar area. I do like the place though, anybody else have plans to head down there? I have to pay to get into bars here so I'll probably be in one place, most likely Laguna for most of the night. If I do bag a girl I'll have to take her to an hourly hotel, which is not my first choice. Especially if I bag two. Oh well, things will work out, if anyone sees me don't hesitate to say Hi and we can grab a drink too!
[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu; 1104998]Admittedly, the manager in Neptune's III was just an odd idea and she wasn't totally offensive about it. Still, what are the chances of getting $1K HK LT when the manager will most likely be there and starting with a higher opening price? And the manager gets all the money in that case?
The waitress you are referring to might be a different girl. This one is Filipino, a bit young, baby fat, very cute looking.
You think it's worth an effort to wait it out until 3 AM? I don't want to be an ugly American and just *assume* that everyone can be had for a price but. She is a cutie. [/QUOTE]Mamasan Pearla never interfered with my negotiations with the girls. She was just there initially to try to fix you up with a girl. The rest was up to you.
I think the waitress is the same one. You describe her to a tee. Always friendly and smiling. If she is still there in March I will be tempted to see what she is really like!
As for the singer, I don't know. I like to be off well before 3. 00am. But she was certainly avialable and when I met her on her night off she was up for it. The only thing that stopped us was it was the wrong time of the month for her and I arranged to see her later on in the week but I crapped out of it when push came to shove. I like to be in bed by 3.00am.
two months ago, finding myself booked for an extended (2 week) visit to hong kong in the near future, and having only recently stumbled across this forum, i decided to make the most of my situation, rtff, and explore everything a punter might 'desire' in this fair city. i read what all of you had to say, spending many pleasurable hours pouring over the possibilities, and after asking a couple of questions and pledging to return with updated field data, off i went. just recently back from asia, i'm here to return the favor with some current, first hand experiences. i humbly submit that if any of this information can help out just one first-timer, or bring a smile of remembrance to the face of even one veteran of honk kong, then perhaps i've accomplished what i set out to do.
for ease of reading, i've broken down my data into four parts, streetwalkers. 141/148 contacts, massage parlors / brothels, and a separate macau thread over on that forum.
as a quick overview, i enjoyed a total of 14 'pops' over my two weeks, and had many wonderful, even wild and humorous experiences along with one bit of a 'bummer', duly noted below. was it the best punting experience i've ever had? not sure, but it ranks right up there. all i can say is should you ever find yourself in hk with even a few hours for entertainment, this city is surely not to be missed.
engagements by type:
streetwalkers. 1.
141/148. 5.
massage parlors / brothels. 4.
macau. 4.
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streetwalkers. i'm just naturally drawn to this form of punting from my personal experiences around the world and couldn't resist the opportunity to have easy women ogling me as an obvious 'gweilo' who surely must be horny and willing to pay for his pleasure. i would say picking up ladies on the street is not my first choice for mongering in hong kong only because it is so easy and hassle free to go elsewhere (141/148 services, etc). but it does have it's charms. most of the sw's can and do dress much more provocatively than they can in the gray sexual prison of the united states. in fact, i'the say hong kong women in general dress much more stylishly and seductively than their american sisters, but don't worry, it's easy to spot the 'working girls'. a few seem to shy away from interacting with an obvious foreigner, but most, when given eye contact will return it with a smile, and some are down right aggressive if they detect any interest on your part. by the way, my chinese, both mandarin and cantonese, stops at a few choice words and phrases, so don't let your 'english only' skills deter you. pay-for-play is an international language all it's own, but taking the time to learn just a few of the 'pleasure words' in any foreign language will add a great deal to your experience, imho.
my streetwalker results, by location:
temple street night market. as noted many times elsewhere in this forum, this is an absolute sure-fire location to find some action. as also previously mentioned, they seem to favor the west side of the street, along the sidewalk directly behind the market as it occupies the actual street itself, but a few can be found on the east side of the street as well. my only difference from some other comments in the forum is that i found the times the wg's can be observed far more extended than indicated elsewhere here. they were out from well before noon 'til god knows when at night, though they do thin out a bit from 5. 10 pm when the market really gets going for all the 'civilians'. if you can make it later in the evening (after 10 pm) , the action spills over to the parallel side streets of shanghai and reclamation point, just to the west of temple street, especially after the wet (vegetable) market closes down on shanghai and a few can be seen working one block to the east on woosung street as well. after 11 pm the gals come out in force and a casual stroll will quickly turn up at least a couple of dozen, most suggestively dressed and looking to catch your eye. prices quoted started at $400 to $600 hkd, but quickly dropped to $200-$400 upon some easy negotiation. just hold up the number of 'digits' you were thinking to pay, or punch them in on your cell phone. for the hobbyist finding himself available for some day time action, the temple street area will fill the bill, and the quality ranges from free-lancer grade 5 right on up to some amazingly cute young spinner action in the 8-9 range. virtually all the girls appeared to be putonghua (mandarin) speakers from the mainland. flirting with these asian beauties in an exotic locale like hong kong, all the while with westernized christmas carols such as 'jingle bells' blaring over the temple st. market loud speakers, has to rank right up there with some of my most surreal mongering moments. like the night scenes at rainbow bridge from 'apocalypse now'. weird and unforgettable.
my only downer of the entire hk experience happened here, though, when i broke a cardinal punter's rule and took along more money than actually needed to get the job done. i selected what i thought to be a young, mainland amateur, and dutifully followed here up the stairs to a grimy little apartment. nothing special, but it was cheap, sweaty and fast, just what i was looking for. unfortunately, the little weasel nicked me for over $100 usd i had in my pants pocket, apparently as she 'helped' me get them back on. not discovering the theft until some time afterward, i can only mark it up to experience, though i'm embarrassed to admit, as a grizzled veteran, to letting it happen. i do have to admire her skill, though, as the money was actually in a zippered pocket!
centenary gardens. east side of chatham road south. mentioned elsewhere in this forum, i checked the park out in the 8 pm-to-midnight time frame on two separate occasions, and saw absolutely no activity. perhaps this was due to the current renovation work going on that blocked off a significant part of the gardens.
langham place on portland street. this area was noted elsewhere in the forum as hot for sw's, and i walked this particular block several times but never saw any action. i did, however, see plenty just four blocks to the south in the 100 block of portland. the corner of portland and hamilton, just across from the well known massage parlors at 109-113 portland, repeatedly had at least a half dozen 'strollers' eyeing the crowd after 10 pm or so, and though obviously mandarin speakers, they did not seem shy about approaching or acknowledging the interest of a foreigner. quality was comparable to the low end of the temple street market gals.
nathan road. this busy north-south artery in kowloon turned out to have independent sw's rep001tered up and down the west side of the street, mixing in with the heavy pedestrian traffic after dark. i stumbled across these lassies purely by accident while walking to another location, but any real mongerer will easily spot them. one lady over 40, elegantly dressed but a bit too thin for my tastes, particularly caught my attention. just keep your radar up and you'll see them on nathan just north of the mong kok mtr station, and again on the west side of the street between the jordan and ya ma tei mtr stations. i was also approached by a not-so-attractive sw in broad daylight at nathan and jordan.
and speaking of mtr stations, i'll take a moment to say using the subway system in hong kong could not be easier. it's also reasonably priced, and i used it extensively over my two weeks of prowling, rarely relying on a taxi. if you're going to be in hk for even a couple or three days, just get yourself an 'octopus' card in the first station you get to, and ride with abandon. cheap, easy, safe and clean. it rivals the world's best mass transit systems. city maps detailing streets and mtr stations / routes are free at most every hotel.
kowloon city. finding the opportunity to get up to this thai enclave on the kowloon side of hong kong, and having a weakness for thai food, i took a late night trip to secure both a taste of that wonderful cuisine and perhaps do some fresh scouting for the forum, having never seen it mentioned in these pages beforehand. serving the sizable thai community in the city, i certainly did not lack for dining choices among the dozens of first rate ma-and-pa operations. thinking there might also be sw's or massage parlors serving this predominantly thai neighborhood, i thought i'the check that out as well. alas, two hours of thorough searching turned up nothing even remotely resembling any action.
Massage Parlors and Brothels. Taking a cue from the many recommendations on this forum, I just had to experience the famous K-Pressure, Dundas 37, and a couple of lower class joints on Portland during my late November visit to HK. Herewith are my results:
K-Pressure. Easy to find, straight forward in it's operation (two girls were produced in a small waiting room for my selection) , I cannot say the quality was extremely high, but what do you expect for about $500 HKD? My choice was a fair looking, nice bodied PRC girl with not one lick of English to her credit, but with my few words of Mandarin, we got the job done and had a lot of fun doing it. I'm not a big fan of the air mattress treatment in the shower, and find both the 'ice and fire' BBBJs more amusing than arousing, but we had a good time. My tastes for 'exotic orifices' led me to request if the the old '3rd eye' option was available. Somewhat to my surprise, she said 'yes'. High marks to this 30+ year old lady for enthusiasm, if not over-the-top skills.
Dundas 37. As others have noted, I found the selections here a bit younger than K-Pressure. My little PRC girl was perhaps thicker-of-waist than some might prefer, but damn if she didn't just ooze GFE with her big dimpled smile and bubbly personality. I was choosing from only two possibles, but sometimes, when you go with your gut, you get it right. She insisted I hold her hand, tightly, while walking me to our room, and once inside, she was all over me with DFK, cat licking, and a sexy, soapy scrub down in the shower. I don't know what this young Mainland Maiden did for a living back on the farm, but she had the rock hard thighs and calves of a track star. Having those babies wrapped around my waist later on in bed was worth the price of admission in itself. Full of laughter and giggles, she observed that my little 'xiao di di' started out 'Putonghua' (small) but got to be 'Gweilo' (Big White Man) real fast! I should stop right here and forewarn any Newbies you're going to hear how 'big' you are as a Gweilo. Don't buy it for a minute, it's just a way to pump up your egos, my Brothers! Again, when politely asked if a 'Greek' performance was possible, she simply flashed a big smile, rolled over and tilted that round little pooter a little higher for ease of access. Not a word was said about paying anything extra for this service, but I gave her a token of my appreciation after the performance was over anyway. Lots of fun, she begged me to return the next night after 8 PM when she'the be back on duty. I was sorely tempted, but wanted to taste other pleasures elsewhere. But I'the repeat with 'Shir-lee' anytime.
100 Block of Portland. On a lark I stopped in at what really amounted to a brothel just a few buildings north of the famous 109-113 complex on Portland, on the same side of the street. Can't miss it. This joint had the obligatory pink lights out front, and a yellow sandwich board with prices, they didn't even bother with a pretense of a massage. I asked if Thai was on the menu, having never tried that 'flavor', and having only sampled Chinese women up to that point. The pimps jumped right to it as if shot out of a cannon as I waited patiently in a dimly lit room sitting on a questionably sanitary bed. There must have been a 'Calling All Thais' alert out on the street, as they clearly weren't on the premises. No matter, within 5 minutes a bevy of a half dozen or so were anxiously paraded into my room all at once. None were striking, but I took a flyer on the tallest, who when selected said in perfect English stated, 'Who, me? ' I learned later of the reason for her apparent surprise in my interest. Upon disrobing I discovered my little brother at 9 years of age had bigger boobs than this gal, and her performance was lackluster to say the least. After numerous positions my little Thai began to complain of fatigue and hinted that I was a 'bit too big' for her comfort. 'Big Gweilo' story all over again. I hurriedly finished up, and for $320 HKD, I suppose I could not really kvetch about it all.
109-113 Portland. Somewhat frustrated by my encounter just up the street, as detailed above, I hung out for a while at a pretty damn good little Indian Joint enjoying a mango lassi and some garlic nan bread, flirting with the tiny Indonesian waitress with quite a rack for her size. Her smiles were all 'come-on', but she was very shy, and maybe the mango juice was giving me delusions. I seriously toyed with asking her what time she got off work, but in the end decided it probably was a lost cause and went back out on the street for easier pickings. I headed just a few doors down to the 109-113 Portland building, as described elsewhere on this forum. Having plenty of time, I started at the ground floor and worked my way up, if only to get a lay of the land. Just about every floor had some kind of massage / brothel operation going, of various quality and appointments. I settled on the very top floor enterprise, assuming its richer appearance might mean a higher quality selection. The price was a reasonable $420 HKD, and I was asked to lock up my clothes and take a shower, then given a pair of pajama shorts and jacket, and lead to a darkened room. Shortly a young PRC gal with a fair sized rack showed up and proceeded to give me a back rub on the massage table. The rub down was perfunctory, and quickly led to foreplay, a BBBJ, etc. She then mounted the mighty 'xiao di di' who was ready to swing back into action after the frustrating encounter of a few hours ago. We did every position I could think of, and even a couple SHE came up with, and both fell into a brief fitful sleep when done, her laying on top of me, insisting that I not 'exit' so quickly. Here's where it got a little weird.
When she finally dismounted, it became clear we'the had a 'wrapper' malfunction, and she began to freak; she'the wipe herself, look at the napkin, then say something in Putonghua that surely meant, 'This CANNOT be happening! '. At the time I thought, 'Hey, I'm not too happy about this myself! '. I ultimately figured perhaps her greatest fear was getting pregnant, so I explained, as best I could, that I only shot 'blanks', having had the big V many years ago. That seemed to calm her down a bit, and it all seems a little funny now, but it was another surreal moment in HK at the time.
[QUOTE=Rippa; 1105252]For ease of reading, I've broken down my data into four parts, Streetwalkers. 141/148 Contacts, Massage Parlors / Brothels, and a separate Macau thread over on that forum.
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Brilliant report Rippa. Can't wait to read the rest.
Tried the SW scene myself for the first time a couple of weeks ago and you are spot on.
Yep, the lights went up and the music. Van Halen's 'Jump'. Stopped at Amazonia last night. The cops came in with a few undercover boys and the IDs were checked and at least one girl led out. I saw another girl being led off down the street after the same police crew hid Neptune's II.
Here's an idea: why don't the police figure out why the African dudes are hanging out on the corners with alarming regularity now. I don't want to sound racist but the number of African dudes is alarming. Are they pimping out the African girls in that area?
Wan Chai is changing, I guess.
I chatted up the waitress in Neptune's III but when she had to consult the guy at the door for another club recommendation for me, I figure my chances are slim.
She's a cutie. I think she has braces.