Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3035131]Maybe Bangkok has the prettiest girls on TF, but they are often the hardest to get. Pattaya has the most girls, and they are easy to get.
The average Bangkok girl (not a stunner, but an attractive girl next door type) usually asks around 2000 baht for a shorttime, while the average Pattaya girl asks around 1500 baht.

By the way, there is also a user blog for TF: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4407-Thai-Friendly[/URL].[/QUOTE]I never got a very good looking girl for 2 k in bkk, TF or elsewhere. On TF its 3 k for the pretty one.

Walked down Soi 6 yesterday but in the afternoon at 3 pm. Managed to get away from the Mrs and my hotel is closeby.

But I have to say, I don't think early afternoon is a great time. I remember I walked down there in the evening and I was stopped like 10-15 times & took me a full 30 minutes but yesterday hardly got approached & saw the same thing with other guys. It's logical but the later it is perhaps the more buzzed they'll be and then will be grabbing everyone. And I was walking pretty slowly and tried to make eye contact with a few but they just seemed quite disinterested. And the last 4-5 times I went there I always had a few girls grabbing etc.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;3035273]Walked down Soi 6 yesterday but in the afternoon at 3 pm. Managed to get away from the Mrs and my hotel is closeby.

But I have to say, I don't think early afternoon is a great time. I remember I walked down there in the evening and I was stopped like 10-15 times & took me a full 30 minutes but yesterday hardly got approached & saw the same thing with other guys. It's logical but the later it is perhaps the more buzzed they'll be and then will be grabbing everyone. And I was walking pretty slowly and tried to make eye contact with a few but they just seemed quite disinterested. And the last 4-5 times I went there I always had a few girls grabbing etc.[/QUOTE]3 pm is way too early, most bars start 4 pm, and even then many girls are still getting ready.

I'd say it really gets good after the sunset, as many girls also don't want to stand in the sunlight.

Having that said, there are still at least 15-20 bars that will have a decent lineup at 3pm, but they might be sitting inside of the bar because of the sun and the lack of customers on the street. If that's the only window you get, you can still make something good out of it.

Last night around 2 am, me and my co-mongering friend get contacted by 2 African working women. They were dancing, and we had a very good conversation at the Beach Road. As me and my co-mongering friend had very good experiences with African working women in especially Nairobi / Kenya, we decided to take them to the hotel. When arrived at the hotel, we went to different rooms, as me and my co-mongering friend don't want to bum bum in the same room.

At the room, that African working woman (I took) was completely different compared to very funny and entertaining working girl at the Beach Road. She made everything to turn me off. She made a long phone call with someone, while I was waiting for the action. (I guess that was her friend at the room of my co-mongering friend). No kiss. No sucking dick at all. She refused to take a bath before the action. I put a condom and fucked her around 5 minutes. And as she was lying as a dead starfish in the bed, I pulled the condom off. Paid money and kicked her out of my room. She was ready to make a big trouble if I refused to pay money to her. Any way, it was just money.

My co-mongering friend had the exact same experience, as my experience.

In short: avoid African working women in Pattaya. If you want to bum bum African working women, travel to an African country. African working women in Pattaya are full of scams.

Best regards,

Kim.

Ahahah, for me who like young/slim/cute/all-nighters, a LOT has changed from 4 years ago.

[B]Walking Street[/B] is all Indian now, except for the late-night discos still popular with young westerners. The Gogos there are borderline ripoffs nowadays.

[B]Soi 6[/B] has become much more drink-centric and ST in bar, as Mamasans run the show. A lot more SE asians customers. A couple of bars still have old-style managers to smooth things out though.

The older westerners moved to [B]Bouakhao[/B] and the more edgy bars beyond (Bong Koch, Khao Talo etc.). Even Bouakhao is a lot more transactional than before. There are still some wild party bars, but mostly older / fatter woman. [b]Jomtien[/b] has more preserved its old-style beach town vibe.

[B]ThaiFriendly[/B] is 99% hardcore hookers now, the kind you find on beach road at night. As bad as the other online platforms.

[B]Prices have increased by 50%[/B] from a few years back, especially bar fines and high end. The low end is still below 2 k for the night, but most cute young girls will start at 5 k.

[B]Girls are a lot more hard-core[/B], and your look will matter a lot more now to even get the really cute one.

Pattaya is still a great party city, but no longer a monger paradise.

Sammy Sosa.

[QUOTE=JohnnyVegas;3034943]Not much has changed. 1000's of open air bars, gogos, etc. Everywhere. There's a bunch of open air bars on the right (beach side) just before entering Walking St. So check them out before going into W St.

Soi Buakhao also has a bunch with some good music and live bands. Soi Dianna is mostly gogos, but many open air bars closeby. Prices are higher in gogos with BFs ranging from 700 - 1500 depending on the girl and especially higher if she's part of a show that the gogo puts on. ST is 2000-2500. Girls prefer ST because the extra 500 or 1000 if not worth it to them for LT and another pump in the am they'd rather leave and go back to the bar to find another customer, or go out with friends / Thai BF, etc.

Soi 6 is still cheap for taking a girl upstairs in the bar for ST.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035466]Paid money and kicked her out of my room. [b]She was ready to make a big trouble if I refused to pay money to her.[/b] Any way, it was just money.

My co-mongering friend had the exact same experience, as my experience.

In short: avoid African working women in Pattaya. If you want to bum bum African working women, travel to an African country. African working women in Pattaya are full of scams.[/QUOTE]In my opinion you scammed yourself. If you had refused to pay her and she made a big trouble, then it would have been her that was in big trouble. Those chicks are in the country illegally and even worse, they are prostituting illegally. So had the police come, she would have been thrown in jail and thrown out of the country. Knowledge is power. Since you did not realize that, she had the power. Had you said let's call the police to settle this then, she would have been out of there in a flash.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3035172]I never got a very good looking girl for 2 k in bkk, TF or elsewhere. On TF its 3 k for the pretty one.[/QUOTE]2,000 batters are Ugly. Price Matters and the Girls know it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3035489]In my opinion you scammed yourself. If you had refused to pay her and she made a big trouble, then it would have been her that was in big trouble. Those chicks are in the country illegally and even worse, they are prostituting illegally. So had the police come, she would have been thrown in jail and thrown out of the country. Knowledge is power. Since you did not realize that, she had the power. Had you said let's call the police to settle this then, she would have been out of there in a flash.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are right. But I don't want to take any risk. She could smash for example the television in the room, and it could cost me much more money in the end.

I am completely agree with you: Knowledge is power. But in some situations (especially against total crazy people), knowledge can not help at all.

With all respect to other opinions than my own opinion, I will still call it (what those 2 African working women) did some days ago, as scam. Because on the Beach Road they were acting as they would give a good service. But when you bring them to the room, the saxofon gives another sound (if you understand what I mean.).

Besides as my co-mongering friend also experienced the very same thing shows only one thing: those African working women are agree to act in this way. So they can quickly get back to the Beach Road for finding some new victims.

The reason for my report is warning people here for not being the next victim. Because obviously there is a pattern among those African working women.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035466]Last night around 2 am, me and my co-mongering friend get contacted by 2 African working women.
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At the room, that African working woman (I took) was completely different compared to very funny and entertaining working girl at the Beach Road. She made everything to turn me off. She made a long phone call with someone, while I was waiting for the action. (I guess that was her friend at the room of my co-mongering friend). No kiss. No sucking dick at all. She refused to take a bath before the action. I put a condom and fucked her around 5 minutes. And as she was lying as a dead starfish in the bed, I pulled the condom off. Paid money and kicked her out of my room. She was ready to make a big trouble if I refused to pay money to her. Any way, it was just money.[/QUOTE]If a woman refuses to shower with me, I kick her out. That's happened a few times. If she demands money beforehand, I kick her out too. That's happened as well.

If she suddenly behaves differently in the room than before, I become suspicious. But if she doesn't want to shower, that's a nogo.

Perhaps you lack the experience to recognize these things.

[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035646]I will still call it (what those 2 African working women) did some days ago, as scam. Because on the Beach Road they were acting as they would give a good service. But when you bring them to the room, the saxofon gives another sound (if you understand what I mean.).[/QUOTE]Yes. An empty wagon makes the most noise.

[QUOTE=KimWheather;3035646]Maybe you are right. But I don't want to take any risk. She could smash for example the television in the room, and it could cost me much more money in the end.

I am completely agree with you: Knowledge is power. But in some situations (especially against total crazy people), knowledge can not help at all.

With all respect to other opinions than my own opinion, I will still call it (what those 2 African working women) did some days ago, as scam. Because on the Beach Road they were acting as they would give a good service. But when you bring them to the room, the saxofon gives another sound (if you understand what I mean.)..[/QUOTE]Knowledge is not wisdom or prudence!

My advice, when faced with an aggressive scammer, or even worse, two, on foreign soil, is to realize you have made a poor choice of sex worker, and seek to de-escalate the situation, before it gets out of hand, and involves others, Security and or Police.

For chump change pesos or bhat, you can make it all go away, and continue with your pleasurable hobby elsewhere.

Mongering is a hit or miss proposition at the best of times. Don't try to argue "principle" LOL, with low lifes, or worse try to teach them a lesson.

Life's too short!

(Unless of course you need to satisfy your own aggressive adrenaline rush tendencies!

Like the guy who gets hit on a flashing light crosswalk, you can finish up being "right", but dead!

I thought you handled your situation rather well.

Like food poisoning, wisdom and prudence is being able to avoid poor choices, not how to cure it!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3035687]Knowledge is not wisdom or prudence!

My advice, when faced with an aggressive scammer, or even worse, two, on foreign soil, is to realize you have made a poor choice of sex worker, and seek to de-escalate the situation, before it gets out of hand, and involves others, Security and or Police.........[/QUOTE]In 2017 in Hong Kong I went with this girl from either Laos or Myanmar in a walk up whose service was so poor that I prematurely ended the session. I knew I had to pay her but decided I did not want to make it too easy for her. I started arguing and she and her neighboring friends argued back. I decided to take up as much of their time as possible. I had nothing else planned for that day and they were unable to go with any possible punters during the arguments. Eventually they called their security, a small Chinese guy about half my size. I thought it a good idea to take up his time as well. I eventually paid of course but it cost them extra. Time is money.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3035731]In 2017 in Hong Kong I went with this girl from either Laos or Myanmar in a walk up whose service was so poor that I prematurely ended the session. I knew I had to pay her but decided I did not want to make it too easy for her. I started arguing and she and her neighboring friends argued back. I decided to take up as much of their time as possible. I had nothing else planned for that day and they were unable to go with any possible punters during the arguments. Eventually they called their security, a small Chinese guy about half my size. I thought it a good idea to take up his time as well. I eventually paid of course but it cost them extra. Time is money.[/QUOTE]Kudos for making them work for it. In some cities and venues that's fine, the likelihood of violence is extremely low.

However, there are places with pimps on a short fuse who come out swinging, and if you're not sure, trying to drag them along could backfire. For instance, lower end venues in Kuala Lumpur are not the kind of places where I'd try picking quarrels.

[QUOTE=SammySosa;3035480]Ahahah, for me who like young/slim/cute/all-nighters, a LOT has changed from 4 years ago.

[B]Walking Street[/B] is all Indian now, except for the late-night discos still popular with young westerners. The Gogos there are borderline ripoffs nowadays.

[B]Soi 6[/B] has become much more drink-centric and ST in bar, as Mamasans run the show. A lot more SE asians customers. A couple of bars still have old-style managers to smooth things out though.

The older westerners moved to [B]Bouakhao[/B] and the more edgy bars beyond (Bong Koch, Khao Talo etc.). Even Bouakhao is a lot more transactional than before. There are still some wild party bars, but mostly older / fatter woman. [b]Jomtien[/b] has more preserved its old-style beach town vibe.

[B]ThaiFriendly[/B] is 99% hardcore hookers now, the kind you find on beach road at night. As bad as the other online platforms..[/QUOTE]Most girls still go for 1000-2000 baht I don't know what you mean that prices have increased by 50 percent. Also I'm happy Thai friendly is 100% escorts that's what I want it for.

[QUOTE=JamesTpy;3035761] Also I'm happy Thai friendly is 100% escorts that's what I want it for.[/QUOTE]To make your statement accurate, you need some qualifiers of "young girls in Pattaya". Even then it isn't 100%. Don't expect the same thing when you travel about Thailand. Pattaya TF is uniquely overrun with P4P.

Normal parts of Thailand have mostly ladies looking for long term relationships and financial support.