Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;3036508]I have read forums for last few days and watched countless YouTube videos tryna figure out the market but I want to know from you guys what is the best place you pick up girls other than on the beach/massage parlour and Thai friendly! [/QUOTE]I am afraid that you have wasted a lot of time on youtube as well as with this post. Pattaya has not changed. You still pay what you negotiate. You can not negotiate the bar fine, but you can negotiate with the chick you take out. So find a chick wherever you like and negotiate for a price you think is fair.

Please use paragraphs at ThatGuy101.

The best value girls are going to be on Thaifriendly or club freelancers as there as no barfines or lady drinks.

The reason the Soi 6 take out barfines are so expensive is because they don't want the girls to be barfines. Looking for long times in Soi 6 is like looking for a steak in a seafood restaurant.

I am not disappointed that no ones knows EXACTLY for those EXACT examples. Certainly surprised at the long winded reply about not knowing what one doesn't know. I would have settled with no reply, but had hoped for a "My experience with a Nigerian. " or "Tried my luck with a couple of girls walking around and. ".

All I know for certain is the most I would be willing to pay. Really, no answer would have been better than the consultant's classic response of, "Well, you got to take into consideration. ".

[QUOTE=PayForIt;3036447]Nobody can answer your questions unless (million to one chance) = they know these 3 out of many thousands if not millions of girls!

Freelancers in Pattaya (and Bangkok / Pratumnak / Jomtien / Phuket / Koh Samui and most likely most places) charge (a) what they believe they can get out of a punter and (b) what they want. Factors which influence prices (and this is by no means an exhaustive list) are 1. Does the guy look like he has money or not 2. Does he look clean 3. Is he on drugs or pissed 4. Does he look desperate 5. What time of night (or day) is it? 6. What is this location? 7. What are my chances of hooking another / better option in the next 30 minutes / hour? 8. What is my week looking like (busy / rich dead / poor).

There are no "averages". On beach road in September I walked up to a very pretty girl at the end of the night (I NEVER choose street freelancers late anywhere as the odds of being robbed are sadly high). I had already had my fun for the night but wondered if LT was cheap enough as the girl was unusually pretty with a great body and I thought starting the morning with her might be great fun. I was far from drunk. I had had only 2 beers and one vodka coke all night (since 7 pm). She quoted 2000 THB LT. I frowned and she immediately dropped to 1500. Two guys (differently culture / nationalities from me) were stood close listening and one of them, clearly unhappy, and one blurted out "hey you told me and my friend 3000 each". She responded "yes because you both smell very bad". I decided against and went to bed.

But there you have it. So so many factors determine freelancer prices.

So to finalise this. After a heavy night in Buakhao recently I was offered ST for only 700 THB outside Subway but an unattractive girl. I declined. Next night I made a rare visit to WS and Pin Up. Outside there was one of there was an incredible dek rub kaek (promoter). Genuinely 10/10 face and body. I asked her outright "price for ST or LT please and let's go for some champagne and food first". Sure I wanted her to know I wasn't a cheap charlie and trust me I wanted her to accept. Best looking girl I've seen in now nearly 9 years in Pattaya / Bangkok. She initially told me she did not go with customers - "paid to bring men into my bar". I said I would wait an hour or so if necessary and pay well.

She went inside, came back and said 4000 THB bar fine and 12000 for me please. Again, I politely declined (albeit after trying hard but failing to get her to negotiate down). I have since wondered if she might just be worth one time paying European prices (total 16 k THB is about 400 euros - for two hours is about standard now in Germany and Spain for girls in clubs). So in the space of 2 nights I went from 700 THB to 16000. You might understand then when I say that answering your questions about these pics is just impossible. Too many factors in play. Go have fun and don't worry too much. Prices in SEA are incredible compared to rest of the World.[/QUOTE]

There's a old saying "Your Mileage May Vary" when I was in Phuket no more than 2000 BHT and at the lowest 1500 Bath. I ran into a chick from Cote d'voire on Sanbagla Road. I can only imagine it might be slightly higher in Pattaya because more tourists are going there vs Phuket. The Thai women I met near the Muslim areas of Phuket wanted 2000 BHT and they wasn't trying to negotiate for a lower price.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036439]I have seen a few walking videos around Myst, but not usually on Walking Street or Soi 6. What are the prices of non-bar girls? The range?

For example, the black girl?

The hooker in leather boots?

The pairs of girls in the other two?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036610]I am not disappointed that no ones knows EXACTLY for those EXACT examples. Certainly surprised at the long winded reply about not knowing what one doesn't know. I would have settled with no reply, but had hoped for a "My experience with a Nigerian. " or "Tried my luck with a couple of girls walking around and. ".

All I know for certain is the most I would be willing to pay. Really, no answer would have been better than the consultant's classic response of, "Well, you got to take into consideration. ".[/QUOTE]100% than don't complain prices of Barnes or girls is going up when you can't give a quote of what recent price people paid here! We are all mongers it's not hard to say I pay this in soi 6 vs here vs here etc. I'm just tryna execute my self so expats are respected I ain't " weekend warrior " or a " cheap Charlie " but with no help means figure it out you're self when we're all here on the forum sharing stories and helping other mongers no reason to gate keep prices. Okay if soi6 is over priced and so is walking streets etc than tell me the spot! Also remember I was a newbie in this forum almost 8 years ago I followed the advice for Dominican and it worked so it's not hard to put some one on game vs go find out you're self than get mad prices going up in the future idk that's my thought process sorry if I offended anyone but just a quick I pay xxx in second street for a bar fine vs soi6 would help.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3036527]I am afraid that you have wasted a lot of time on youtube as well as with this post. Pattaya has not changed. You still pay what you negotiate. You can not negotiate the bar fine, but you can negotiate with the chick you take out. So find a chick wherever you like and negotiate for a price you think is fair.[/QUOTE]Mr. Mr. Enternational with all due respect. When I left Dominican and the forums you're post were one of the first one I read here I have respect for you're posts but this a basic reply. I know short time and long time can be negotiated but what are the prices of bar fine to be expected on soi6 vs other places in pattaya but me and some other people on game it was my first time there a year ago which was amazing I had a blast I can figure it out on with the girl but I ain't tryna pay the bar more or the same as the girl. No problems with lady drinks or me buying drinks I know I'm paying for company for her to sit with me but I ain't tryna pay a bar 80-100 $ car for a bar fine than the girl almost the same in Canadian. I know you're vet. You have the information which can help people know what to pay and where to go if you'the be willing to share it would be amazing if not it's okay I can't be mad about that but we are all here to share advice and experiences and would love to hear from someone who been in the forums for years. If I find a spot got some gems chicks I would hesitate to share or prices if u dont wanna give up ur favourite spots but a few where the mongers in this thread could go.. even when I in Phuket I posted to this thread to share my experience cause this thread always been full of great advice no one ever gate keeping with info also gives people coming with a budget what they should spend without fucking it up for people living there. Yes YouTube a waste of time so is Reddit thats why this forum is worth it we have people helping the younger ones or people not as experienced there! So saying YouTube is a waste of time with you or no one giving reply with info is abit of waste to ? Without being put on game! I know you have the info I countless hours in my life time reading this forums but I was hoping you’d give an update on bar fines and what’s the best place! That’s all ahaha ! All respect and love happy mongering. If youre there late November or early December I will personally buy you few beers on me for youre advice and information thats all we want here with some great stories of the trip thats the roots of this

[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;3036644]You have the information which can help people know what to pay and where to go if you'the be willing to share it would be amazing if not it's okay I can't be mad about that but we are all here to share advice and experiences and would love to hear from someone who been in the forums for years. If I find a spot got some gems chicks I would hesitate to share or prices if u dont wanna give up ur favourite spots but a few where the mongers in this thread could go..[/QUOTE]I started off the last post by saying nothing has changed. You have been before so you know what to expect. There are no secret spots that people are harboring for themselves. You see somewhere you may like and you walk in and ask prices right off. If you do not like it or can not negotiate to where you want then you walk out and go to another spot. There is no need to wait in a place 2 hours before finding out prices. There are literally thousands of spots. And there is something for everybody, so nobody can tell you what will be for you, just because it is what they like. You may want bar, massage parlor, street chick, internet, soapy, gogo, disco, or just encounter someone when you are in 711 to buy water. There are endless options. But once again, if you have been before than you know the ropes and probably already have a routine and places you like to go. Nothing has changed and as always YMMV.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;3036644]Mr. Mr. Enternational with all due respect. When I left Dominican and the forums you're post were one of the first one I read here I have respect for you're posts but this a basic reply. I know short time and long time can be negotiated but what are the prices of bar fine to be expected on soi6 vs other places in pattaya but me and some other people on game it was my first time there a year ago which was amazing I had a blast I can figure it out on with the girl but I ain't tryna pay the bar more or the same as the girl. No problems with lady drinks or me buying drinks I know I'm paying for company for her to sit with me but I ain't tryna pay a bar 80-100 $ car for a bar fine than the girl almost the same in Canadian. I know you're vet. You have the information which can help people know what to pay and where to go if you'the be willing to share it would be amazing if not it's okay I can't be mad about that but we are all here to share advice and experiences and would love to hear from someone who been in the forums for years. If I find a spot got some gems chicks I would hesitate to share or prices if u dont wanna give up ur favourite spots but a few where the mongers in this thread could go.. even when I in Phuket I posted to this thread to share my experience cause this thread always been full of great advice no one ever gate keeping with info also gives people coming with a budget what they should spend without fucking it up for people living there. Yes YouTube a waste of time so is Reddit thats why this forum is worth it we have people helping the younger ones or people not as experienced there! So saying YouTube is a waste of time with you or no one giving reply with info is abit of waste to ? Without being put on game! I know you have the info I countless hours in my life time reading this forums but I was hoping youd give an update on bar fines and whats the best place![/QUOTE]I've found there is not a fixed price except in massage parlours or establishments where it's the same price for all depending on the service you want, with a stated price list and even then, in some cases that's not 100% set in stone.

In my experience, it depends on so many different factors. Your age, time of day / night, how you look / smell / dress / carry yourself, location, your attitude, your race, high / low season.. Even the weather.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;3036610]I am not disappointed that no ones knows EXACTLY for those EXACT examples. Certainly surprised at the long winded reply about not knowing what one doesn't know. I would have settled with no reply, but had hoped for a "My experience with a Nigerian. " or "Tried my luck with a couple of girls walking around and. ".

All I know for certain is the most I would be willing to pay. Really, no answer would have been better than the consultant's classic response of, "Well, you got to take into consideration. ".[/QUOTE]Sorry if my response wasn't perfect for you and you've have preferred zero response. Maybe you are right. Me telling giving "consultant" advice was almost as stupid as posting three pictures of the 2 million girls for sale in Thailand and asking how much they cost.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3036613]There's a old saying "Your Mileage May Vary" when I was in Phuket no more than 2000 BHT and at the lowest 1500 Bath. I ran into a chick from Cote d'voire on Sanbagla Road. I can only imagine it might be slightly higher in Pattaya because more tourists are going there vs Phuket.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, everything costs more in Phuket than Pattaya. I always tell people Phuket is the tourist ripoff place. No idea where more people go, but all you see in Phuket airport is tourists. Remember there are direct flights from many countries into Phuket. I think most flights there are from other countries versus from within Thailand. Everybody has to see Koh Phi Phi. The folks that go to Pattaya are mongers and Asians that have been sold a cheap tour package.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3036389]$100-$300? I do not even think that exists around here. You may want to move in with the king trying to spend that much in these parts. But if you insist on overpriced food and rooms, then the Hilton is the place for you. Juice that you can get outside for $1, will cost you $10 there.[/QUOTE]But I should of explained my question better, I don't pay that price for a room, but I want to show 2 of my friends Pattaya and they are a bit chubby and like to eat good food, not Mcds.

And they said they don't want to go unless I can promise them they won't be eating American fast food every meal or 711, they like nice restaurants, and have plenty of money to burn on nice hotels too.

I've been there a couple times but I don't know the higher end hotels (which I'm guessing should have good food? I don't travel to eat good food, but its way more important to some than it is to me.

So this was a question about good food, which is why I didn't bother with the hotel section.

The idea that the only way to know what prices are is to go into the venue and ask is bogus. Those of us who have visited a venue recently can give you exact prices or ranges. The only reason some says you cannot know is because they don't know.

[U][b]For example[/b][/U]

[U]Naughty massage places[/U]: 200 Foot Massage; 200 Thai Massage; 300 oil massage. These numbers can vary plus or minus 50 THB.

If you want a naughty massage then you ask for oil massage. At some point in the massage the girl giving you a massage will flip you over and may tease you or straight out ask what you want. Ask for the sexual service you want and get the price from here. But there are average service ranges:

Hand Job 500 - 700; Blow Job 500 - 700; Boom Boom: 1000 - 2000.

If she does not give you a number in the range or the price you want then negotiate. Do not be afraid to say no. She does not make any [I]REAL[/I] money if she does not provide any extras.

The forum is about [B]sharing information on having sex with girls[/B], not talking big mess in order to boost their ego and post count. I do my best provide my readers with venue details, including drink prices and the prices of the social sexual services.

Last time I was on [B]Beach Road[/B] I got quotes between 1000 - 2000 THB for [I]Blow Job[/I] and [I]Boom Boom[/I] one shot.

As for secret places no there are not any that I am aware of. But there are places that are not no the normal tourist track nor that Western tourists go to on a regular basis.

Remember, if someone does not do what you like to do they cannot give you advice on that type of venue. I rarely goto [U]Walking Street[/U] Agogos. When I do go there are many attractive girls, but the prices that they quote me for their social sexual services I routinely decline. I have nothing negative to say about the places. [I]If you like them then I love them[/I]

[B]Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call![/B]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3036805]The idea that the only way to know what prices are is to go into the venue and ask is bogus. Those of us who have visited a venue recently can give you exact prices or ranges. The only reason some says you cannot know is because they don't know.
[/QUOTE]Thanks, Commander, for bringing the topic back to task. With a range in price, I get a better idea in my head of what is reasonable and what may be perceived as the girl clocking me as an easy mark. My aim is to stay inline with market prices. Not to be a cheap charlie to brag about how I banged the same girl you banged but for half price, nor to be a scammed weekend warrior to start inflating price expectations.

My frustration with this site has turned to generally abandoning it due to so many non-answer answers that overwhelm the count of the site.

The sites order of usefulness.

Trip reviews with numbers = That's what this site is here for.

Direct answers = Great.

Speculative answers with caveats = Good, helpful point of reference.

Non answer replies that pad the stats and clog the search filter = Waste of electricity, time (writer and readers), and server space. This is why RTFF has yielded such a high amount of little value, and if it is there it is from years ago.

Again, thanks.

[QUOTE]So this was a question about good food, which is why I didn't bother with the hotel section.[/QUOTE][B]Grand Centre Point Pattaya[/B], there is a fine dining buffet in the hotel that was one of the best I have ever eaten at in my life. Plus the range of restaurants in [U]Terminal 21[/U] next door will keep them eating a different cuisine ever meal for their entire trip.

[B]Grande Center Point Space Pattaya[/B] has a roof top hotel with views are are amazing. Get there before sunset and be amazed.

[B]The Chocolate Factory[/B]

Search Michelin Star Restaurant in Google Maps.

Now if you want to go to the next level when it comes to restaurants [B]Cockbang[/B] (aka Bangkok) is the spot!

[QUOTE]The best value girls are going to be on [u]Thai Friendly[/u] or club freelancers as there as no barfines or lady drinks. The reason the Soi 6 take out barfines are so expensive is because they don't want the girls to be barfines. Looking for long times in Soi 6 is like looking for a steak in a seafood restaurant.[/QUOTE][B]Thai Friendly:[/B] you are taking a risk on what the girl who show up at your door looks like. Unless you meet her for an interview so that you are not dealing with a problem at your door or in your room. I know that there are claims that 1300* Long Time is available. That has not been my experience. Usually older (and that is relative to your own age a personal preferences) girls will accept 2000 for Long Time. But younger more attractive girls are going to ask for 3000 Long Time. With the girls that are smoking hot asking for 4000 Long Time.

[B]Soi 6[/B]: Bar Fines between 500 - 1000; with [I]Long Time 4000[/I]. If Long Time is two shots that the same value to me as [I]Short Time for 2000[/I]. So, you are getting the stranger to sleep with you (something I am not comfortable with) for free. Along with her time. If you are bar fining for long time before midnight then there won't be any other expenses if all you do is head to the room and bust that first nut out, sleep and bust another nut in the morning before she leaves.

[B]My favorite is short time![/B] Last time I was there (on Soi 6 - 7 days ago) room costs were 300 - 500 and amounts quoted to me were 1300 - 3000. That being said my personal preferences are Gentlemans Clubs, Naughty Massage Places and [U]Thai Friendly[/U]. But even as [U]Thai Friendly[/U] can represent an excellent value overall, for me nothing beats being out on the street or up in the the bar / club and getting that direct 1 on 1 personal interaction with the potential prostitute you plan to hire.

[I]*All figures THB[/I]