Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1151670]Went to LDV last night. I was tired and was talked into going. I drank a couple of Club Colombians and was getting more tired but there were a few hot chicas running around. And I did not want to go to bed in Colombia with my johnson in my hand. So I started talking to a few. ALL of them are quoting prices "per hour". All of them. And they start crazy 300k pesos. And I low ball. I give them a crazy look in response to the 300k quote. Then I come back with 200k TLN. And they are firm with the "per hour". I think they have colluded on this for real. It is too prevalant. It is easy to see that they want a double score. So the fourth chica I talk to comes down to 150K for an hour and she is just smoking hot and has a primo bod and her attiude and voice is reminding much of Penelope Cruz (a fanasy of mine) so I say lets go. She works hard BBJ w / o asking and she actually stayed about two and half hours, then she said she had to go. I ask where. She answers Electra. So I guess the "per hour" to some of these chicas is just ST. And then they capatalize on a second client at Electra.[/QUOTE]Good reminder as of why to avoid Cartagena, at least for me.

I'm being a bit sarcastic, however, though I'm sure I could find chicas there in Cartagena that I bond with and could get better rates, I'm just generally not in to prima donna, over-priced, chocha de oro, chicas and it's just so much easier to find gems in other cities IMO.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1151483]My personal taste in Chical latinas is long jet black Hair, decent tits, slim body, and a smile that says "no problema"[/QUOTE]Congratulations. I fully agree, except two chicas are better than one.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1151712]Sup fellas.

As you remb I went to Cartagena-Quilla-Santa Marta for 2 weeks in mid April. I had a tight budget (1200) for everything. My goal was to have fun and hookup with plenty of Colombianas. Didn't hookup with the number of chicks I had hoped for but didn't do terrible neither. When I got down there I quickly realized my spanish was not as good as I thought and I think this discouraged me alittle bit which reduced my aggressiveness and confidence. I spent amount 70 percent of my time in normal clubs around normal girls and about 30 percent of my time in p4p spots. The p4p scene in Colombia reminds me of Costa Rica. Although alot of the girls are more younger in Colombia. I figured out how to crack the girls and get that poon for free, but it was alittle to late and I didn't have sufficient resources (cash & cell phone ect) Anyways here is how my trip went down.

I arrived in Cartagena on a Monday. Took a bus to Centro and got a room at a hostel in the walled city for 25k pesos. Pretty much just walked around centro and went to the beach for the most of the week. Meet a girl that I had came in contact with online through Couch Surfing. She showed me around and we went out and had lunch. She had a bf and wasnt getting the DTF vibe so left that at that. One of my first few nights I made it out to LDV. I went there at 11 or 12 after playing poker in Bocagrande. Not that many girls there but the ones there were pretty hot. Decent amount of mexican dudes in there, no americans. Had a few beers and just chilled outside for a bit. These two not so attractive girls would not leave me alone soo I decided to bounce and meet up with some people from the hostel I was staying at at Tu Candelas. Some british girls and australian dudes. Got drunk and managed to bang one of the UK girls in the shower of our hostel. European backpacker chicks are such sluts! Woke up one morning to the sounds of the blonde grl from Finland getting fucked in our dorm style room that accommodated like 8 people! LOL On Thursday night I decided to go checkout Pleyclub. It was pretty sketchy outside the joint with like 8 dudes just standing around and ZERO police pressance. Place was pretty small and dim inside. I felt like EVERYONE was eye fucking me. As I'm white and look to be about 20. LOL Anyways went to the bar and talked to 3 girls from Medellin for awhile. One of them latched on to me and the rest went on about there business. She finally asked me if I wanted to leave with her. Then realized how expensive it is to TAKE a girl out of there. I told her I would get with her inside the strip club. I wasnt planning on paying for a grl in there but she was smoking and I gave in and sad yea. It was expensive. 100 USD! Ouch. She allowed me to take pictures so I will upload them. I grabbed her number and facebook info then left. Nxt night I went out with a grl that worked at the hostel. She took me to some reggea bar right outside the walled city. I wasnt feelling it and wanted to leave and go to Castallena area for a more authentic Cartagena nightlife experience. So I told her thanks but I had to leave and that I would see her at the hostel later. Hopped in a cab and made the decent little drive over to that area. Heard about a club called Casa de Cerveza but didn't like it. Went outside and grabbed some grub and asked some girls where the best club for dancing was with the most people. They told me The Green Room. It was on the other side of the mall. This club was nice! Danced and chatted up one grl but logistics fucked up any chance I had at the ONS. Just for the record this area strictly locals! Zero tourists way out here away from centro. Might be alittle more dangerous but I loved it!

Next day I was off to Barranquilla. Stayed at the Windsor Hotel in Alto Prado. This area and hotel was nice! Tons of people on the streets and stuff. Watch a premier league soccer game outside with alot of locals. Meet up with a little spinner from ColombianCupid at the mall. Saw a movie around 10:30 at the mall. Was planning on going out with her that night but realized she had to head home due to distance / safety / and older protective brothers. I was alittle bummed as I though she would have been a sure fire lay. Anyways that night I went outside my hotel and walked around and asked 2 girls about this club called Tucupley or something. They asked me if I was going alone and I said yea. Then they asked me to just hangout with them. So I said yea and spent the rest of the night at a club near by with them. One grl sorta claimed me. At the end of the night her friends left and we went and got beer from the exito and returned to my hotel. There is a fee to bring another guest in but luckly I slipped her in without anyone seeing. Got my first real colombian flag that night! I was wanting to stay in Quilla for longer but I couldn't afford to stay at that hotel for another night. So I left for Santa Marta.

I stayed at at hostel relatively nice one for 18k pesos a night for half the week as they were already booked for semanta santa. Loved the feel and look of Santa Marta. The grls here were the ugliest though of the 3 cities I had been to. Meet up with another grl from CouchSurfing. She showed me around, and invited me to her home. She was a nice grl so I knew I wasnt going to be getting any action from her! LOL Went to taganga and tyarona park! Awesome places. Around thurs I had to leave if I didn't find a place to stay but luckly the grl let me stay in her friends house that was gone on vacation! I stayed here from like 4 nights for free! That Friday night I just went out with the CS grl and her friends to La Puerta. Nice bar / club! Didn't hit on anyone there. Nxt night the CS grl left for a few days soo I went out by myself to look for some girls. Went back to La Puerta but left quickly after a beer. Just wasnt feeling it there. I was being a pussy and was going to just go home but forced myself to go into this other club down the street that was thumping music. Matimbas or something. Awesome little lounge / disco. Grabbed a beer and watch the different sets of girls dancing. Pick out one to dance with and made my move. Danced with her for awhile. Then came time to leave and I suggest she come back to my place. At first she said no, but I persisted and told her it was right up the road. She said ok! Got my second ONS that night! Nxt day I went to Minca on the back of the CS girls motobike! That was a awesome trip / experience. Returned back to Santa Marta and left for the bus station. Took a bus to Quilla then a bus to Cartagena.

The line for quilla was insane! Waited like 1. 5 hours just to buy a ticket. It was a night bus. Got to quilla and got on the last bus going to Cartagena. Thank god LOL. On the drive there the police made a road block which lasted for an hour for no apparent reason. I got out and walked up the road to see what was causing the road jam. Talked to some grls, then the police lefted the blockade so I rushed back to the bus.

Back in Cartagena I stayed at the same hostel. Meet some brasilian guys and took them to LDV. Talked to a grl for most the night. Got her number and facebook info and made plans to go to the beach the nxt day. She left early and I told her I would meet her at Elektra later that night. That night was my first time going to Elektra and it was very fun! Lots of girls! Nxt day I meet up with the LDV girl in Bocagrande. Relaxed on the beach and had lunch. I remb her telling me she stayed with her friend in a apartment in LAguito. So I suggested we go hangout there. She aggreed after I explained to her grls were not allowed where I was staying at. Her friend was not home, which was good as I didn't have to deal with any distractions. Put on some music and danced with her abit. Escalated sexually and bounced her to the bedroom and sealed the deal! Was praying she didn't try to hit me up for money after but luckly she didn't. I told her I would prob see her at LDV later that night. Later that night I meet up with two guys from NC that I had meet at elektra the following night at LDV. Meet another guy from ISG at the LDV. Can't remb his name though. I invited him to come and chill with me and my friends that night. He left early. The grl I meet the other night didn't show up soo I danced and talked to about 2 other girls. Left around 1 to meet the people from my hostel at mr. Babilas but they were not there, no one was for that matter. It was dead. So I left and walked to Elektra. It was pretty early but I just waited inside. This is my last night soo I'm almost out of money. Sipped on one beer someone bought me for most the night! Stated dancing and talking to a grl from Santa Marta. She keep asking to leave with me but I just keep telling her bs and changing the subject. I detached from her and talked to another grl I had been talking to for the two nights! She was pretty fun. Anyways came time to leave and Santa Marta grl came and grabbed me and pulled me outside. I decided what the hell I would tell her I only had 80k and see what she said. She said that was ok and we left. She took me to some hotel in Bocagrande. It was to nice to be a love motel. He wanted 40k at first but I explained to her that I didn't have anymore money. Pretty much the 80k I gave her was it! She talked the man down to 20k. She wasnt to happy about having to pay it out of her 80k! I couldn't properly explain to her I had already spent all my money on this trip soo I'm sure she thought I was a cheap ass or something! LOL Anyways I had a nice session with her. I got zero sleep and saw the sun come up. I had a few hours to try and rest at the hostel before I had to leave for the airport.

Overall the trip was mad fun! I wish I had more money to spend and a better grasp of the spanish language.

In recap Colombia wasnt as easy I had initially thought. Granted I didn't try for nothing. Although for a good looking young guy you can still get the working grls for free. Just not on the same night at LDV or Elektra imo. YOu have to put in more work and bring them out of work mood and into friend hanging out mood. I didn't realize this till later in my trip. Having no phone doesn't help things either.

1200 for 2 weeks is pushing it! I'd suggest having 800 for a week.

Sorry this report isn't the most helpful to the average monger. As I only was at p4p spots for only a short amount of times and occasions. Didn't get to hit up any p4p spots in Barranquilla and Santa Marta like I had hoped! [/QUOTE]A lot of the guys on this board have been waiting for your report. You had stirred up a lot of talk with your expectations.

I'm glad you had a good time and were honest in your reporting about the costs to be a budget mnoger.

Next trip you will do even better, and as you know perfecting your Spanish will be the key in your quest for the Non Pro.

I hope you enjoyed your virgin trip. The next time, you will know what to expect, what to skip, and where to spend your energy. I have found daytime action and the beach are the cheapest and easiest way to meet women.

Next time, try to go with friends and share an apartment in Laquito. Your expenses can be split and you can always find girls to come up for some rum and or beer. I have offered some street girls a beer and a sandwich and when they were finished, they gave me good service for 20K.

I do not have the energy as a young guy like you, but my experience has really come in handy. One final note, the past tense of meet is met.

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred; 1151712]Sup fellas.

As you remb I went to Cartagena-Quilla-Santa Marta for 2 weeks in mid April. I had a tight budget (1200) for everything. My goal was to have fun and hookup with plenty of Colombianas. Didn't hookup with the number of chicks I had hoped for but didn't do terrible neither. When I got down there I quickly realized my spanish was not as good as I thought and I think this discouraged me alittle bit which reduced my aggressiveness and confidence. I spent amount 70 percent of my time in normal clubs around normal girls and about 30 percent of my time in p4p spots. The p4p scene in Colombia reminds me of Costa Rica. Although alot of the girls are more younger in Colombia. I figured out how to crack the girls and get that poon for free, but it was alittle to late and I didn't have sufficient resources (cash & cell phone ect) Anyways here is how my trip went down.

I arrived in Cartagena on a Monday. Took a bus to Centro and got a room at a hostel in the walled city for 25k pesos. Pretty much just walked around centro and went to the beach for the most of the week. Meet a girl that I had came in contact with online through Couch Surfing. She showed me around and we went out and had lunch. She had a bf and wasnt getting the DTF vibe so left that at that. One of my first few nights I made it out to LDV. I went there at 11 or 12 after playing poker in Bocagrande. Not that many girls there but the ones there were pretty hot. Decent amount of mexican dudes in there, no americans. Had a few beers and just chilled outside for a bit. These two not so attractive girls would not leave me alone soo I decided to bounce and meet up with some people from the hostel I was staying at at Tu Candelas. Some british girls and australian dudes. Got drunk and managed to bang one of the UK girls in the shower of our hostel. European backpacker chicks are such sluts! Woke up one morning to the sounds of the blonde grl from Finland getting fucked in our dorm style room that accommodated like 8 people! LOL On Thursday night I decided to go checkout Pleyclub. It was pretty sketchy outside the joint with like 8 dudes just standing around and ZERO police pressance. Place was pretty small and dim inside. I felt like EVERYONE was eye fucking me. As I'm white and look to be about 20. LOL Anyways went to the bar and talked to 3 girls from Medellin for awhile. One of them latched on to me and the rest went on about there business. She finally asked me if I wanted to leave with her. Then realized how expensive it is to TAKE a girl out of there. I told her I would get with her inside the strip club. I wasnt planning on paying for a grl in there but she was smoking and I gave in and sad yea. It was expensive. 100 USD! Ouch. She allowed me to take pictures so I will upload them. I grabbed her number and facebook info then left. Nxt night I went out with a grl that worked at the hostel. She took me to some reggea bar right outside the walled city. I wasnt feelling it and wanted to leave and go to Castallena area for a more authentic Cartagena nightlife experience. So I told her thanks but I had to leave and that I would see her at the hostel later. Hopped in a cab and made the decent little drive over to that area. Heard about a club called Casa de Cerveza but didn't like it. Went outside and grabbed some grub and asked some girls where the best club for dancing was with the most people. They told me The Green Room. It was on the other side of the mall. This club was nice! Danced and chatted up one grl but logistics fucked up any chance I had at the ONS. Just for the record this area strictly locals! Zero tourists way out here away from centro. Might be alittle more dangerous but I loved it!

Next day I was off to Barranquilla. Stayed at the Windsor Hotel in Alto Prado. This area and hotel was nice! Tons of people on the streets and stuff. Watch a premier league soccer game outside with alot of locals. Meet up with a little spinner from ColombianCupid at the mall. Saw a movie around 10:30 at the mall. Was planning on going out with her that night but realized she had to head home due to distance / safety / and older protective brothers. I was alittle bummed as I though she would have been a sure fire lay. Anyways that night I went outside my hotel and walked around and asked 2 girls about this club called Tucupley or something. They asked me if I was going alone and I said yea. Then they asked me to just hangout with them. So I said yea and spent the rest of the night at a club near by with them. One grl sorta claimed me. At the end of the night her friends left and we went and got beer from the exito and returned to my hotel. There is a fee to bring another guest in but luckly I slipped her in without anyone seeing. Got my first real colombian flag that night! I was wanting to stay in Quilla for longer but I couldn't afford to stay at that hotel for another night. So I left for Santa Marta.

I stayed at at hostel relatively nice one for 18k pesos a night for half the week as they were already booked for semanta santa. Loved the feel and look of Santa Marta. The grls here were the ugliest though of the 3 cities I had been to. Meet up with another grl from CouchSurfing. She showed me around, and invited me to her home. She was a nice grl so I knew I wasnt going to be getting any action from her! LOL Went to taganga and tyarona park! Awesome places. Around thurs I had to leave if I didn't find a place to stay but luckly the grl let me stay in her friends house that was gone on vacation! I stayed here from like 4 nights for free! That Friday night I just went out with the CS grl and her friends to La Puerta. Nice bar / club! Didn't hit on anyone there. Nxt night the CS grl left for a few days soo I went out by myself to look for some girls. Went back to La Puerta but left quickly after a beer. Just wasnt feeling it there. I was being a pussy and was going to just go home but forced myself to go into this other club down the street that was thumping music. Matimbas or something. Awesome little lounge / disco. Grabbed a beer and watch the different sets of girls dancing. Pick out one to dance with and made my move. Danced with her for awhile. Then came time to leave and I suggest she come back to my place. At first she said no, but I persisted and told her it was right up the road. She said ok! Got my second ONS that night! Nxt day I went to Minca on the back of the CS girls motobike! That was a awesome trip / experience. Returned back to Santa Marta and left for the bus station. Took a bus to Quilla then a bus to Cartagena.

The line for quilla was insane! Waited like 1. 5 hours just to buy a ticket. It was a night bus. Got to quilla and got on the last bus going to Cartagena. Thank god LOL. On the drive there the police made a road block which lasted for an hour for no apparent reason. I got out and walked up the road to see what was causing the road jam. Talked to some grls, then the police lefted the blockade so I rushed back to the bus.

Back in Cartagena I stayed at the same hostel. Meet some brasilian guys and took them to LDV. Talked to a grl for most the night. Got her number and facebook info and made plans to go to the beach the nxt day. She left early and I told her I would meet her at Elektra later that night. That night was my first time going to Elektra and it was very fun! Lots of girls! Nxt day I meet up with the LDV girl in Bocagrande. Relaxed on the beach and had lunch. I remb her telling me she stayed with her friend in a apartment in LAguito. So I suggested we go hangout there. She aggreed after I explained to her grls were not allowed where I was staying at. Her friend was not home, which was good as I didn't have to deal with any distractions. Put on some music and danced with her abit. Escalated sexually and bounced her to the bedroom and sealed the deal! Was praying she didn't try to hit me up for money after but luckly she didn't. I told her I would prob see her at LDV later that night. Later that night I meet up with two guys from NC that I had meet at elektra the following night at LDV. Meet another guy from ISG at the LDV. Can't remb his name though. I invited him to come and chill with me and my friends that night. He left early. The grl I meet the other night didn't show up soo I danced and talked to about 2 other girls. Left around 1 to meet the people from my hostel at mr. Babilas but they were not there, no one was for that matter. It was dead. So I left and walked to Elektra. It was pretty early but I just waited inside. This is my last night soo I'm almost out of money. Sipped on one beer someone bought me for most the night! Stated dancing and talking to a grl from Santa Marta. She keep asking to leave with me but I just keep telling her bs and changing the subject. I detached from her and talked to another grl I had been talking to for the two nights! She was pretty fun. Anyways came time to leave and Santa Marta grl came and grabbed me and pulled me outside. I decided what the hell I would tell her I only had 80k and see what she said. She said that was ok and we left. She took me to some hotel in Bocagrande. It was to nice to be a love motel. He wanted 40k at first but I explained to her that I didn't have anymore money. Pretty much the 80k I gave her was it! She talked the man down to 20k. She wasnt to happy about having to pay it out of her 80k! I couldn't properly explain to her I had already spent all my money on this trip soo I'm sure she thought I was a cheap ass or something! LOL Anyways I had a nice session with her. I got zero sleep and saw the sun come up. I had a few hours to try and rest at the hostel before I had to leave for the airport.

Overall the trip was mad fun! I wish I had more money to spend and a better grasp of the spanish language.

In recap Colombia wasnt as easy I had initially thought. Granted I didn't try for nothing. Although for a good looking young guy you can still get the working grls for free. Just not on the same night at LDV or Elektra imo. YOu have to put in more work and bring them out of work mood and into friend hanging out mood. I didn't realize this till later in my trip. Having no phone doesn't help things either.

1200 for 2 weeks is pushing it! I'd suggest having 800 for a week.

Sorry this report isn't the most helpful to the average monger. As I only was at p4p spots for only a short amount of times and occasions. Didn't get to hit up any p4p spots in Barranquilla and Santa Marta like I had hoped![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. When I was 22 I went with my girl to Hawaii. We roughed it but we didn't know any better so we didn't care. We had a great time.

Your budget should be minimum double and include a shared apt as many have recommeneded. $1200 a week, while that would not fly with me, is totally doable for a normal guy not looking to splurge unnecessarily nor bathe in luxury.

No offense but in my 20s having to fly to another country to get laid would have been unthinkable. I hope you thoroughly enjoyed and took advantage of the rich cultural experience. Yeah

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1151921]Tar Heel Bred,

Nice report, and much appreciated. You sure surprised the hell out of me. Very happy to hear you had a good time! It was also nice to see you caught some breaks along the way like from the girl from Santa Marta. Curious what you would have done if you would have not ran into her, as staying at her friends house saved you quite abit of money, plus using her transportation. You were down to 80, 000 pesos your last day in Cartagena, and you spent several days at her friends place, so if that did not happen, this would have left you totally broke 2 or 3 days before your departure date. [/QUOTE]I actually had about 200 in my checking account on my final night in Cartagena. I just told the grl all I had left was 80k pesos as I knew she would accept. I was saving alittle bit to pay my phone bill that was due right when I got back state side. The free house saved me about 80-120k pesos for 4 nights.

Food is cheap if you know where to find it. Ie a few blocks back from main streets and tourist centers. Drinking is expensive in most clubs. There should be dudes selling alcohol in the street in front of the clubs like in brasil!

The girls at LDV and Elektra don't take the initiative most of the time. They just stand around in their little groups. With the small amount of guys I say you would think they would be more assertive trying to make some money! LOL I really wish I had more time in Cartagena and Barranquilla. I feel like I could do some serious damage with a cell phone, more cash, and a month implanted in the city.

I'm off to teach english in seoul south korea for a yr. When I'm finished I'm going to take a month or two off and stay in Lima Peru! Thats going to be alot of fun. From what I have heard the peruvians are the easiest lays in all of south america!

tuesday night i get a call from my wingman, he is flying out on wednesday, and he wants to hit ldv one more time. so we go in and sit down for a while and evaluate all the chicas; after a while we narrow our choices and start making approaches. i start with what little spanish small talk i can speak, and i truly am interested in where they are from so i can see if this effects the price they are asking for. the first girl says she has lived in cartagena her whole life, she is a sweet little thing but she wants 300k for tln, i say 200 and she does not budge. so i go back and ask my wing man how he is doing. he has talked to some girls and one has the body i am looking for, she has grapefuit looking tits and an ass you could set your beer on, so me and my wing man are flirting with her and joking around about which one of us is going to take her home. after a while though she drifts away and in a few minutes my wingman is with her friend, and he is telling me that the girl is likeing me and wanting me to ask her to go to my room, so i get down to business with her. she says 300k for two hours (because she has to be home to get her son ready for school) , i say 150k, she acts like she is offended, so my wing man walks outside with her friend (it is 3am and ldv is about ready to shut down, i am tired and not sure i want to make the trip to electra (which i suggest everyone should do though. same chicas. cheaper prices for lo nger time). so i break down and say 200k for 2 hours / cut to wednesday night.

i had dinner with this perfect ten who is an executive in some kind of oil companie that i met on colombiancupid, and she had made it clear that she was not a puta and not out looking for gringo money. but also made it clear that we would not be getting romantic on the first date. but i figure that i can at least try to get my foot in the door but after we had a late dinner and she said she had to get home because work come early, i am a little worked from just watching her perfect feminine demeanor and talking this gorgeous woman for two hours so i head to the land of sure things. ldv. i have to catch a plane in about 9 hours so i am in a hurry cause i still have to pack and leave early to be in time for the gringo shake down at the ctg. so i am walking up the steps when this fine little thing gets out of a cab, i stop her on the stairs and say hola. como estas. how much for tln. she says 250k. well i do not have tln to spend with her but it is good (imo) to start biddng there. plus i have maybe 200k in pesos left and need cab fare to the airport. so i say 100k for st. she says ok. she says she is from cartagena but her family lives in tubaco. she is a real sweety and she gives me the best bbbj i have had ever. she really knows how to use her tounge. i keep telling myself that i want to try medellin and cali. but i like the city and having an apartment where i can here the ocean off my balcony, so i will probably return in few months. the prices are rising but the quality is primo. most of the time. even though most of the nice "escorts" in usa cost 300 hr for quality or 1000 for tln, imo, they are just not as sexy as a sweet latina from colombia. for 75 to 200 dollars for the night.

[quote=mojo bandit; 1152029]tuesday night i get a call from my wingman, he is flying out on wednesday, and he wants to hit ldv one more time. so we go in and sit down for a while and evaluate all the chicas; after a while we narrow our choices and start making approaches. i start with what little spanish small talk i can speak, and i truly am interested in where they are from so i can see if this effects the price they are asking for. the first girl says she has lived in cartagena her whole life, she is a sweet little thing but she wants 300k for tln, i say 200 and she does not budge. so i go back and ask my wing man how he is doing. he has talked to some girls and one has the body i am looking for, she has grapefuit looking tits and an ass you could set your beer on, so me and my wing man are flirting with her and joking around about which one of us is going to take her home. after a while though she drifts away and in a few minutes my wingman is with her friend, and he is telling me that the girl is likeing me and wanting me to ask her to go to my room, so i get down to business with her. she says 300k for two hours (because she has to be home to get her son ready for school) , i say 150k, she acts like she is offended, so my wing man walks outside with her friend (it is 3am and ldv is about ready to shut down, i am tired and not sure i want to make the trip to electra (which i suggest everyone should do though. same chicas. cheaper prices for lo nger time). so i break down and say 200k for 2 hours / cut to wednesday night.

i had dinner with this perfect ten who is an executive in some kind of oil companie that i met on colombiancupid, and she had made it clear that she was not a puta and not out looking for gringo money. but also made it clear that we would not be getting romantic on the first date. but i figure that i can at least try to get my foot in the door but after we had a late dinner and she said she had to get home because work come early, i am a little worked from just watching her perfect feminine demeanor and talking this gorgeous woman for two hours so i head to the land of sure things. ldv. i have to catch a plane in about 9 hours so i am in a hurry cause i still have to pack and leave early to be in time for the gringo shake down at the ctg. so i am walking up the steps when this fine little thing gets out of a cab, i stop her on the stairs and say hola. como estas. how much for tln. she says 250k. well i do not have tln to spend with her but it is good (imo) to start biddng there. plus i have maybe 200k in pesos left and need cab fare to the airport. so i say 100k for st. she says ok. she says she is from cartagena but her family lives in tubaco. she is a real sweety and she gives me the best bbbj i have had ever. she really knows how to use her tounge. i keep telling myself that i want to try medellin and cali. but i like the city and having an apartment where i can here the ocean off my balcony, so i will probably return in few months. the prices are rising but the quality is primo. most of the time. even though most of the nice "escorts" in usa cost 300 hr for quality or 1000 for tln, imo, they are just not as sexy as a sweet latina from colombia. for 75 to 200 dollars for the night. [/quote]enjoyed your reports, thanks.

you'd be amazed in how much better and cheaper and easier you'd find these chicas if you could actually communicate on a better level with them.

i'm sure you already figured this out though.

[quote=mojo bandit; 1152029]tuesday night i get a call from my wingman, he is flying out on wednesday, and he wants to hit ldv one more time. so we go in and sit down for a while and evaluate all the chicas; after a while we narrow our choices and start making approaches. i start with what little spanish small talk i can speak, and i truly am interested in where they are from so i can see if this effects the price they are asking for. the first girl says she has lived in cartagena her whole life, she is a sweet little thing but she wants 300k for tln, i say 200 and she does not budge. so i go back and ask my wing man how he is doing. he has talked to some girls and one has the body i am looking for, she has grapefuit looking tits and an ass you could set your beer on, so me and my wing man are flirting with her and joking around about which one of us is going to take her home. after a while though she drifts away and in a few minutes my wingman is with her friend, and he is telling me that the girl is likeing me and wanting me to ask her to go to my room, so i get down to business with her. she says 300k for two hours (because she has to be home to get her son ready for school) , i say 150k, she acts like she is offended, so my wing man walks outside with her friend (it is 3am and ldv is about ready to shut down, i am tired and not sure i want to make the trip to electra (which i suggest everyone should do though. same chicas. cheaper prices for lo nger time). so i break down and say 200k for 2 hours / cut to wednesday night.

i had dinner with this perfect ten who is an executive in some kind of oil companie that i met on colombiancupid, and she had made it clear that she was not a puta and not out looking for gringo money. but also made it clear that we would not be getting romantic on the first date. but i figure that i can at least try to get my foot in the door but after we had a late dinner and she said she had to get home because work come early, i am a little worked from just watching her perfect feminine demeanor and talking this gorgeous woman for two hours so i head to the land of sure things. ldv. i have to catch a plane in about 9 hours so i am in a hurry cause i still have to pack and leave early to be in time for the gringo shake down at the ctg. so i am walking up the steps when this fine little thing gets out of a cab, i stop her on the stairs and say hola. como estas. how much for tln. she says 250k. well i do not have tln to spend with her but it is good (imo) to start biddng there. plus i have maybe 200k in pesos left and need cab fare to the airport. so i say 100k for st. she says ok. she says she is from cartagena but her family lives in tubaco. she is a real sweety and she gives me the best bbbj i have had ever. she really knows how to use her tounge. i keep telling myself that i want to try medellin and cali. but i like the city and having an apartment where i can here the ocean off my balcony, so i will probably return in few months. the prices are rising but the quality is primo. most of the time. even though most of the nice "escorts" in usa cost 300 hr for quality or 1000 for tln, imo, they are just not as sexy as a sweet latina from colombia. for 75 to 200 dollars for the night. [/quote]imho, when dealing with ldv, and electra girls i think it is better not to even mention tln. most of the time all you will get anyway is around two hours as they have to leave in the early morning for different reasons. if you hit it off good she will most likely stay the night anyway so why start out talking about tln as it makes her ask for more money right away. if you have her in your room for st and she wants to leave, you then can offer her some extra pesos if you like her that much.

for me tln is reserved for the girls who have proven their worth to me on a st basis.

i like the idea of a chica early from ldv, then after my i get my second wind it is off to electra where the better action takes place.

mojo, my comments are more directed to newbees, but maybe you can use some of my ideas.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1152123]IMHO, when dealing with LDV, and Electra girls I think it is better not to even mention TLN. Most of the time all you will get anyway is around two hours as they have to leave in the early morning for different reasons. If you hit it off good she will most likely stay the night anyway so why start out talking about TLN as it makes her ask for more money right away. If you have her in your room for ST and she wants to leave, you then can offer her some extra Pesos if you like her that much.

For me TLN is reserved for the girls who have proven their worth to me on a ST basis.

I like the idea of a Chica early from LDV, then after my I get my second wind it is off to Electra where the better action takes place.

Mojo, my comments are more directed to Newbees, but maybe you can use some of my ideas. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip! Excellent idea.

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1152029]How much for TLN. She says 250k. Well I do not have TLN to spend with her but it is good (IMO) to start biddng there. -.-.-. So I say 100k for ST. She says ok.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=John Gault;1152123]IMHO, when dealing with LDV, and Electra girls I think it is better not to even mention TLN. Most of the time all you will get anyway is around two hours as they have to leave in the early morning for different reasons. If you hit it off good she will most likely stay the night anyway so why start out talking about TLN....[/QUOTE]IMNSHO at the end of the night 3am ish TLN means 2-3 hours so ask for the TLN price (knowing you will never take that option) and then by switching to Short Time negotiation you are guaranteed a lower price from the TLN answer. And you most likely will get the same amt of time anyway. I actually agree with señor Bandit's negotiation tactic but can see your point Mr JumpUp.

[QUOTE=Genghis Khan; 1151437]Guys, The Colombian pornstar Esperanza Gomez has cought my eye. She is without a doubt one of the hottest women I have seen.

My question to you is if that kind of quality is available among the working girls in Cartagena or Medellin or anywhere else in Colombia for that matter?

GK[/QUOTE]That caliber of woman is easiest to find in Cartagena. Cartagena has all shapes and sizes and usually the top end girls from all over Colombia go to Cartagena because there is just so much tourist business and they are away from their families who might spot them.

I think I will try Cali first because of Los Profesionales.

BTW, Black Hawk69 I never wrote that price was an issue when considering where to go. Only the quality of the women.

GK

Time to repeat this advice I previously posted.

Being pitched a high number by a girl is easily avoidable. Simply don't ask how much they want. It's a suggestion that you may not know the usual prices, and they should try and gouge you.

Instead, tell them what you want to pay.

Establish a rapport with the girl first (drinks, dancing, chat). Then give her an offer about what you want to do: "I would like you to come with me to my apartment in Laguito. I have some drinks back at my place (rum, vodka.) or you can smoke a joint. I want you to stay about an hour and a half. I am offering 150k pesos and will also pay your taxi after you leave my place. I'm a calm and relaxed person and will make sure you're comfortable with me".

Something like the above (alter it to suit your circumstances). I sometimes pull them out of LDV a bit earlier, then offer to escort them to the door of Elektra after we're done. Make the offer attractive to the girl and she will more likely say yes.

Now if the guy happens to be an unattractive person, maybe that explains getting way higher quotes. Girls won't say no outright, they'll just quote a high rate. If you suspect this, find someone who understands colombianas and ask them if you're giving off bad vibes.

To the above advice, I'll add this. In the scenario she doesn't take much interest in your offer. She is not flexible, but simply insists on a price and sticks to it. Either walk away and say "ok, maybe it's just not the right night, we'll talk another time". Or pay the price she asks, and expect a sterile experience, as you've already established that there is no real chemistry there.

Also, if you negotiate with time durations like "2 hours". Before you leave the venue, you may want to translate that into a fixed time that she'll be able to stay to. For example,"until 4am".

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1152243]Not sure why you are so determined to give him bad advice, and send him off to Cartagena Eddie, when you know damn well that the type of girls he is desiring can best be found in Medellin, and as I stated previously, the cost of everything is two or three times higher in Cartagena.

Genghis Khan, it is widely known that the most beautiful girls in Colombia are the paises, so do yourself a favor and go to Medellin. If the flavor you desire is not there, then consider Cartagena, Bogota, or Cali. If you want to spend big time pesos then go initially to Cartagena, as prices of things are discussed on a regular basis on this thread, as it is a rediculously expensive city. I am totally confident you will find what you are looking for in Medellin, and be able to keep a large amount of your pesos in your pocket, where as in Cartagena, you will find it flying out of your pocket like you will not believe.

Not sure why Lucky Eddie is doing his best to send you to Cartagena, but if I was walking in your shoes, I would most definitely go to Medellin. Since Eddie lives there, possibly you can contact him to go out for a beer, and I am sure he can point you in the right direction as rumor has it, he has a stable of the type of girls you are seeking! (smile) One other reason not to go to Cartagena, I have heard that aids is running rampant there these days, so you just never know. Whatever you decide, have fun, and be safe![/QUOTE]Again Black Hawk, I'm not sure what your angle is? Sounds like you are trying to steer guys away from Cartagena to me. You keep talking about price, but it's not exactly true. Lodging is comparable. Sounds like food is expensive but that can be said abut all high end restaurants. Yes, casas are more expensive. Then you make some off the cuff comment about "Aids being rampant" in Cartagena. How about some proof?