London

[QUOTE=AdnnSzhn;1708713]Hi everybody,

I am living in Istanbul and I will visit in London next weekend. So I am looking for a NSA fun with mature / granny girls. Give me a advice please.

Thanks for all.[/QUOTE]Another alternative albeit with many scammers is to try [URL]craigslist.com[/URL] ,London.

[URL]http://london.craigslist.co.uk/searc...date&query=m4w[/URL]

LOL. Sticking an ad there looking for a (Ma Doner) lookalike, is bound to find you few " mature / granny girls " with Vaginas looking like Kebabs.

My opinion and I stand by it, based on my experience Romanian girl = $hit experience. That is not a generalisation that is fact based on my experiences.

The ones I had a shit experience were young fit and hot. Your response is not exactly a resounding vote for them. Most of them in the profession are gypsies. All in all I am trying to figure out the punchline with your post. Seems to read Romanians are a crap time, beware of the gypsies amongst them, having said all that however carry on pissing your money up the wall as you may find a good one!! No thanks.

With a Romanian I may get a 1 out of 10 good one, with Poles its 9 out of 10.

[QUOTE=Adindas;1707338]This is not true. While I agree in general you are more likely to get a sh#t time with Romanians, this is not the same to suggest that it is a cast iron guarantee of bad punting. People who do a deskwork looking into genuine punters recommendation will find some true germs out there.

Do not forget many Romanians who come to the UK are young, hot, fit and vfm. People who are taking a blanket approach thorough generalization will be loosing opportunity to meet a true Romanian germ.

Some of them are gipsies, unless you get a very good recomendation from genuine punters in general it is good to avoid this type of prossies[/QUOTE]

Its a business. In any business if you dont deliver you die.

Well your personal opinion and experience. Other people experience could be different.

I have met a fair share of Romanian gems in the UK. In another punting forum focusing on UK there are already a lot of people submitting reviews about Romanian gems.

[QUOTE=Aimara;1711500]My opinion and I stand by it, based on my experience Romanian girl = $hit experience. That is not a generalisation that is fact based on my experiences.

The ones I had a shit experience were young fit and hot. Your response is not exactly a resounding vote for them. Most of them in the profession are gypsies. All in all I am trying to figure out the punchline with your post. Seems to read Romanians are a crap time, beware of the gypsies amongst them, having said all that however carry on pissing your money up the wall as you may find a good one!! No thanks.

With a Romanian I may get a 1 out of 10 good one, with Poles its 9 out of 10.

Its a business. In any business if you dont deliver you die.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Adindas;1711505]Well your personal opinion and experience. Other people experience could be different.

I have met a fair share of Romanian gems in the UK. In another punting forum focusing on UK there are already a lot of people submitting reviews about Romanian gems.[/QUOTE]Interesting discussion. I mainly monger in other countries as London is useless other than for escorts. Which I find no good as very often the photos are photoshopped and the girl arrives and is a complete disappointment. Far better to go to other countries (e. G FKK clubs in Germany) where you can select any one of 80 -100 naked girls in a great environment and pay €100 for an hour. Same is true in Spain (though more like €180 for the hour) US, Thailand and even Dubai (more expensive). I posted recently and asked for recommendations on London massage parlours open late with a selection of say 4 or 5 girls. Only 2 were put forward and both well outside the centre of London. So for those reasons, I've pretty much given up on mongering in London. Other cities all over the UK have MPs which enable a choice 24/7 - London is just far too behind on this and despite being the capital city is just very poor. Yes it has thousands of escorts. But you cannot see before you buy.

The reason I responded is this. My experience of Romanian girls is that many of them are absolutely fantastic. I've sessioned with many in Spain, Germany and in other cities in the UK and I've had one or two poor experiences but far many more that were terrific. Romanians are essentially latin as a race. And their passion is unquestioned. I find it really sad when a Romanian girl pretends to be from another country. No need. By far the majority of ladies I've met from Romania are lovely and it is terrible they feel unable to be proud of their origin. I doubt Polish girls are any better or worse than Romania girls. I've sessioned with plenty over the past 30 years of doing this and they too can be lovely. Or a disappointment. It is too much of a generalisation to say any race or culture is good or bad. That is like saying all countries that have red on their national flags are communist! Let's just accept that there will be a lot of great girls out there from both Poland and Romania. And the odd bad apple from both. Meanwhile. Let's hope someone in London has the good commercial sense to open a really lovely massage parlour within 3 miles of Marble Arch which stays open 24/7 and has a great selection of ladies. There is clearly a gap in the market.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1711520] I posted recently and asked for recommendations on London massage parlours open late with a selection of say 4 or 5 girls. Only 2 were put forward and both well outside the centre of London. So for those reasons, I've pretty much given up on mongering in London. Other cities all over the UK have MPs which enable a choice 24/7 - London is just far too behind on this and despite being the capital city is Let's hope someone in London has the good commercial sense to open a really lovely massage parlour within 3 miles of Marble Arch which stays open 24/7 and has a great selection of ladies. There is clearly a gap in the market.[/QUOTE]So we don't get lost in translation, what exactly do you mean by" massage parlours " A massage parlor in London means that, ie massage with the possibility of a Happy Ending, Hand Relief, Body to Body Massage which are extra and at the girl's discretion. You won't get Full Sex Service penetration, But never say never in sex.

For that in central London you have the Chinese massage places in Soho where few are open till about 5 am with a selection of girls 4 or 5 . This seems to be tolerated by the Police for whatever reason, Political, Economic.

If you walk around Soho you will get accosted by Chinese girls standing by the doors.

A Brothel for Full Sex is somewhere where more than one girl works at a place at any one time or share the same place even when not working at the same time & there are Hundreds of them in Central London. But You will need a very tolerant Police force in central London to turn a blind eye to a Brothel openly carrying on 24/7 with 4 or 5 girls on duty.

I am, not a night owl when it comes to mongering in London, But I've heard from others who are, there are Brothels in central London with a selection of Girls mainly Romanian operating near Marble Arch and are open almost 24/7.

What they won't do is to advertise openly for any Tom, Dick, Abdul monger to just turn up there as its obviously an invitation for a police raid.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1711520]I. Let's hope someone in London has the good commercial sense to open a really lovely massage parlour within 3 miles of Marble Arch which stays open 24/7 and has a great selection of ladies. There is clearly a gap in the market.[/QUOTE]LOL. Problem solved, they come to you.

[URL]http://immigrantmagazine.co.uk/concern-over-trafficked-romanian-prostitutes-in-london/[/URL]

"Concern over trafficked Romanian prostitutes in London.

The charity said the prostitutes targeted hotel entrances in areas popular with tourists.

The charity said police operations targeting begging by Romanian nationals around Marble Arch had also identified an increase in prostitution around nearby Park Lane."

[URL]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/romanian-prostitute-godfather-pimp-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord909][CodeWord909][/url]-47636[/URL]

"They were said to be soliciting men at the entrance to hotels in areas popular with tourists, such as Park Lane.

"This group of women tend to sell sex on the street in groups and are highly mobile. Some are transported by taxi and privately owned vans to on-street sites known as hotspots for street prostitution," said the study, with prostitutes spotted leaving cash at makeshift drop sites.

Some prostitutes appeared to be as young as 14.

There were also accounts of "male minders" watching over the women. In one area of London there was a "Godfather-like" figure who controlled many of the Romanian women. ".

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1711713]So we don't get lost in translation, what exactly do you mean by" massage parlours " A massage parlor in London means that, ie massage with the possibility of a Happy Ending, Hand Relief, Body to Body Massage which are extra and at the girl's discretion. You won't get Full Sex Service penetration, But never say never in sex.

For that in central London you have the Chinese massage places in Soho where few are open till about 5 am with a selection of girls 4 or 5 . This seems to be tolerated by the Police for whatever reason, Political, Economic.

If you walk around Soho you will get accosted by Chinese girls standing by the doors.

A Brothel for Full Sex is somewhere where more than one girl works at a place at any one time or share the same place even when not working at the same time & there are Hundreds of them in Central London. But You will need a very tolerant Police force in central London to turn a blind eye to a Brothel openly carrying on 24/7 with 4 or 5 girls on duty.

I am, not a night owl when it comes to mongering in London, But I've heard from others who are, there are Brothels in central London with a selection of Girls mainly Romanian operating near Marble Arch and are open almost 24/7.

What they won't do is to advertise openly for any Tom, Dick, Abdul monger to just turn up there as its obviously an invitation for a police raid.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. Fair comment on my description: I appreciate there are lots of massage centres which offer HJ. A brothel is what I was talking about. One where you can go in and see 4 or 5 girls and choose. There are lots of them in Manchester for example (Tropical Palms or Bentleys. I could go on). They are openly advertised in the press. The police never attend them. The openly advertise in local newspapers so I doubt they are worried about the police. If there are such places in central london I'd love to know where they are if they are anywhere near Marble Arch.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1711718]LOL. Problem solved, they come to you.


"This group of women tend to sell sex on the street in groups and are highly mobile. Some are transported by taxi and privately owned vans to on-street sites known as hotspots for street prostitution," said the study, with prostitutes spotted leaving cash at makeshift drop sites.

There were also accounts of "male minders" watching over the women. In one area of London there was a "Godfather-like" figure who controlled many of the Romanian women. ".[/QUOTE]This is all very worrying of course. I doubt there is a single monger on ISG who really wants any action with a girl who is the victim of trafficking. I for one certainly don't. If the girl chooses to sell sex to make good money herself, and has the freedom to choose not to, or to stop, or to say no to any particular punter, that's fine. The fact that she is a working girl of her choice does not mean she is any less than any of us. She is not. She has chosen to make her money in life, for the time being, in this way. Trafficking is just disgusting behaviour by low life people in society and they need locking up.

The point of my post anyway was that I don't want outcall. Where you select an escort from a website who looks 10/10 face and body but then who arrives and is either not the advertised girl, or is more 5/5. The choice is then to accept to avoid upset or making clear you are not interested in her, or saying no, left feeling horny, thinking of looking at more women on escort sites who are probably nothing like their pictures. For that reason, it's better to go somewhere where you can see the girls, decide who you like and have some fun. Where the girl knows you actually selected her so clearly find her attractive. I'm not aware of a single place in London like this. Which is frankly staggering. It is by far the worst capital city I have been to in this respect. I love London as a city but as a mongering destination it doesn't make the top 20 places in the world because of this lack of facility.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1712129]Thanks for the response. Fair comment on my description: I appreciate there are lots of massage centres which offer HJ. A brothel is what I was talking about. One where you can go in and see 4 or 5 girls and choose. There are lots of them in Manchester for example (Tropical Palms or Bentleys. I could go on). They are openly advertised in the press. The police never attend them. The openly advertise in local newspapers so I doubt they are worried about the police. If there are such places in central london I'd love to know where they are if they are anywhere near Marble Arch.[/QUOTE]So there was one you said, you tried Sun & Steam which the Police closed down for whatever reason.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1694546]It really is quite unbelievable but despite nearly every city in the UK having a plentiful supply of brothels / MP where you can turn up, choose one of say 4 girls for a couple of hours if the service is good, there appears not to be a single one in London. Or at least nobody on the London forum knows of one. The Sun and Dream was good and I went there a few time. Bit pricey but a good selection of 12-15 girls in that downstairs bit after changing into a robe. Not quite FKK but still a good choice. Is there seriously not one now? Cmon guys.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg[/URL]

Published on 26 Jul 2013.

The Met police raid on Steam and Sun Health Club in Chalton Street, London, in February 2012.

[URL]http://taxileaks.********.co.uk/2013/07/sun-and-sauna-owner-gets-two-years-for.html[/URL]

Sauna owner gets two years for running a brothel.

[URL]http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/04/upmarket-brothel-steam-sun-club-made-26m-a-year-3869862/[/URL]

"A brothel raked in more than £26 million a year with some of its prostitutes earning in excess of £100,000 annually, a court has heard.

The Steam & Sun club, billed as 'London's only five-star massage parlour', was raided by police after undercover officers were offered sex for £100.

They found 25 semi-clothed women and naked men in the club's six bedrooms and two penthouse suites. Records showed one prostitute earned £109,000 a year and on one night in 2011 the club made £72,000."

That said, I wouldn't want to be caught in a police raid with my pants down in a situation or a set up where its obviously on the London Police's radar.

Have fun & stay safe.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1712130]The point of my post anyway was that I don't want outcall. Where you select an escort from a website who looks 10/10 face and body but then who arrives and is either not the advertised girl, or is more 5/5. The choice is then to accept to avoid upset or making clear you are not interested in her, or saying no, left feeling horny, thinking of looking at more women on escort sites who are probably nothing like their pictures. For that reason, it's better to go somewhere where you can see the girls, decide who you like and have some fun. Where the girl knows you actually selected her so clearly find her attractive. I'm not aware of a single place in London like this. Which is frankly staggering. It is by far the worst capital city I have been to in this respect. I love London as a city but as a mongering destination it doesn't make the top 20 places in the world because of this lack of facility.[/QUOTE]The Long&Short of it, there are at present 4102 escorts on [URL]adultwork.com[/URL] in LONDON the vast majority incalls. If the looks don't match the photos and you don't like what you see in person, then no deal, just walk away, the world is your Oyster Travel Card. . The key here is to read genuine & honest feedback on the escorts left by credible Mongers.

Soho & Mayfair walk ups.

Escort agencies &Independents with their own sites, where its incall venues, again you can just walk away, if the girl is not to your liking.

Reputable incalls aka Parlors, Brothels where there are 2 or 3 girls working at a time usually between 11 am and 8 pm, where the photos are of the actual girls. You can read their feedback on other UK sites.

I am sure there are Brothels of the Type you are referring to 4 or 5 girls incalls, But for reasons already stated this won't be made public knowledge.

The only thing lacking in London are FKK clubs & the German style of parties.

Mongers in London have never had it so good for the variety of girls & the present competitiveness of the London sex trade.

"Sex workers reported they were being forced to charge 50 per cent less now than they had done a few years ago. . The number of women selling sex on their own off-street had increased considerably in the last few years, with the majority hailing from Eastern Europe, South America, particularly Brazil, and South East Asia, especially China and Thailand.

Hi guys,

Will be in London next week and will have some free time for fun. Just a couple of quick questions please if you London mongers could oblige.

A) Is the Tisbury Court peep place still open? I like these places and would enjoy a look to start thinga off.

B) In general terms what's the usual fee for the walk ups? Its a good few years since I last indulged.

Thanks fellas!

I agree with you about the party in the UK. I party in the UK a few times a month but now my party has gradually moved to Germany. It is not that difficult to find a return ticket from the UK for 70 to many destinations in Germany where you could find the good parties. In Germany people could party for eleven hours for EUR80- EUR100 compare it to what you will need to pay for party like this in the UK.

But for in-call visit to prossies, in my opinion London is still very competitive. If you want to venture (take a risk of getting a bad punt) you could easily find the WGs with the same quality that you will find in FKK in Germany with relatively almost the same rate. It has been reported in many positive reviews in another forum where you could find a WGs with 40 - 50 half hourly rate.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;1711520]Interesting discussion. I mainly monger in other countries as London is useless other than for escorts. Which I find no good as very often the photos are photoshopped and the girl arrives and is a complete disappointment. Far better to go to other countries (e. G FKK clubs in Germany) where you can select any one of 80 -100 naked girls in a great environment and pay 100 for an hour. Same is true in Spain (though more like 180 for the hour) US, Thailand and even Dubai (more expensive). I posted recently and asked for recommendations on London massage parlours open late with a selection of say 4 or 5 girls. Only 2 were put forward and both well outside the centre of London. So for those reasons, I've pretty much given up on mongering in London. Other cities all over the UK have MPs which enable a choice 24/7 - London is just far too behind on this and despite being the capital city is just very poor. Yes it has thousands of escorts. But you cannot see before you buy.

The reason I responded is this. My experience of Romanian girls is that many of them are absolutely fantastic. I've sessioned with many in Spain, Germany and in other cities in the UK and I've had one or two poor experiences but far many more that were terrific. Romanians are essentially latin as a race. And their passion is unquestioned. I find it really sad when a Romanian girl pretends to be from another country. No need. By far the majority of ladies I've met from Romania are lovely and it is terrible they feel unable to be proud of their origin. I doubt Polish girls are any better or worse than Romania girls. I've sessioned with plenty over the past 30 years of doing this and they too can be lovely. Or a disappointment. It is too much of a generalisation to say any race or culture is good or bad. That is like saying all countries that have red on their national flags are communist! Let's just accept that there will be a lot of great girls out there from both Poland and Romania. And the odd bad apple from both. Meanwhile. Let's hope someone in London has the good commercial sense to open a really lovely massage parlour within 3 miles of Marble Arch which stays open 24/7 and has a great selection of ladies. There is clearly a gap in the market.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1712329][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg[/URL]

Published on 26 Jul 2013.

The Met police raid on Steam and Sun Health Club in Chalton Street, London, in February 2012.

[URL]http://taxileaks.********.co.uk/2013/07/sun-and-sauna-owner-gets-two-years-for.html[/URL]

Sauna owner gets two years for running a brothel.

[URL]http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/04/upmarket-brothel-steam-sun-club-made-26m-a-year-3869862/[/URL]

"A brothel raked in more than 26 million a year with some of its prostitutes earning in excess of 100,000 annually, a court has heard.

The Steam & Sun club, billed as 'London's only five-star massage parlour', was raided by police after undercover officers were offered sex for 100.

They found 25 semi-clothed women and naked men in the club's six bedrooms and two penthouse suites. Records showed one prostitute earned 109,000 a year and on one night in 2011 the club made 72,000."

That said, I wouldn't want to be caught in a police raid with my pants down in a situation or a set up where its obviously on the London Police's radar.

Have fun & stay safe.[/QUOTE]It seems unfair that this club was selected as opposed to the many other businesses that offer sex in a brothel setting in London and in many other locations in the UK.

Perhaps it was because it because there was no attempt at pretence. Scantily dressed women that one can select from and possibly open negotiation as opposed to the other massage joints where the women are offering massage which you pay for and the negotiation for extras is during the massage in a private room. In some of these places, a HJ is a standard extra and FS is only on offer on the quiet as the owners don't agree (or officially agree!

Or it could be that the locals were complaining about parking, noise, nuisance etc.

[QUOTE=Simian;1713924]It seems unfair that this club was selected as opposed to the many other businesses that offer sex in a brothel setting in London and in many other locations in the UK.

Perhaps it was because it because there was no attempt at pretence. Scantily dressed women that one can select from and possibly open negotiation as opposed to the other massage joints where the women are offering massage which you pay for and the negotiation for extras is during the massage in a private room. In some of these places, a HJ is a standard extra and FS is only on offer on the quiet as the owners don't agree (or officially agree!

Or it could be that the locals were complaining about parking, noise, nuisance etc.[/QUOTE]Or that the owners didn't pay off the cops.