Decided to try a morning run to centro again, Thur Midday ish, I can only describe it as close to empty. Never saw it that deserted before. There were a few of the usual hardcore putas and that's it.
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Decided to try a morning run to centro again, Thur Midday ish, I can only describe it as close to empty. Never saw it that deserted before. There were a few of the usual hardcore putas and that's it.
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2563221]Thanks for the info! One question. What price can you expect if you want to spend with the girl the whole night? Yeah, it depends, but still what can I expect? I mean semi pro girls from Tinder, Facebook, Insta, etc.
During my last visits in Asia and Africa I usually find a semi-pro and we spend the night together. Sometimes the day also. My experience shows that for the whole night they are pretty happy with the price that they will get for one shot meeting plus 20-30% added to that. It's depend of the way you treat the girl, how you look and how you talk to her but basically this is the price that you can expect. For example in Pattaya was something like 3000 baht for whole night, 2000 for one meeting (1-2 hours). In Africa was something like this. I'm wondering how it is in Colombia? Thanks![/QUOTE]As you said it depends on the girl. Usually, if the girl is getting 150-200 k, 300-400 k will work for toda la noche. You may run into issues with some who don't have a babysitter for all night. You may also have issues with some wanting to leave before morning. I would specify a time, such as Quedaras hasta a las 8, You will stay until 8.
[QUOTE=Onojdi;2563221]Thanks for the info! One question. What price can you expect if you want to spend with the girl the whole night? Yeah, it depends, but still what can I expect? I mean semi pro girls from Tinder, Facebook, Insta, etc.
During my last visits in Asia and Africa I usually find a semi-pro and we spend the night together. Sometimes the day also. My experience shows that for the whole night they are pretty happy with the price that they will get for one shot meeting plus 20-30% added to that. It's depend of the way you treat the girl, how you look and how you talk to her but basically this is the price that you can expect. For example in Pattaya was something like 3000 baht for whole night, 2000 for one meeting (1-2 hours). In Africa was something like this. I'm wondering how it is in Colombia? Thanks![/QUOTE]300 k is pretty typical for all night. But it really depends on many factors including how well you get along. If she halfway enjoys your company and she has no other plans, she might stay for marginally more than the short-time donation. If she doesn’t like you, she’ll agree to all night, take your money, and leave at 1:00 am after saying there’s an emergency she needs to attend to.
I absolutely wouldn't broach the subject of all night or all day until you've had a test drive.
Thanks for the info guys. So 300-400 k can be expected. Is Tinder popular in Colombia? It was a gold mine in Southeast and Africa, hope it works in South America too.
[QUOTE=Combo;2563252] If she doesnt like you, shell agree to all night, take your money, and leave at 1:00 am after saying theres an emergency she needs to attend to.
[/QUOTE]It's a possibility, but usually I have the opposite problem LOL Yeah, I know that it depends and it have risks, but after all I'm doing this in the last 3 years in 5-6 different countries and I got some experience. And honestly after trying toda la noche, since then this short time visits for me are not so much fun, to be honest. Again, it depends. Sometimes I prefer ST, some times LT. But these big cities are full with hot an horny semi pro's that are bored to death of their usual ordinary life. And when they say "fuck it" and decide to have some fun, then it becomes really interesting.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2563022]I thought the same. But 2 different girls informed me that it is not a guy but is a girl. I have seen the bath thing 3 different times and have to look away. I will not verify what sex that thing has. It makes me mad when that girl starts yelling at people at 11:00 pm asking for money.
That was rude to laugh at the pregnant girl. If she said something way out of line like 100 then yes. But asking 40 and laughing was not nice. She dropped her price to what is the regular price and you walked away. If you had no real interest you should not have approached her and teased her because that is what it sounds like to me.[/QUOTE]The pregnant girl had a bag of candy in her hand and motioned me over. When I approached I handed her a 500 Peso coin. I never had any interest in her, but was curious if someone so pregnant and so big was actually working, hence I asked the questions in terms of what kind of restrictions she had if she was working and then asked how much out of curiosity. I wasn't there to tease her, and was very polite to her. And what she did ask for, at 40 K, was out of line, and although I'm not a local, she would of never quoted 40 K to a local, hence I laughed, and she wasn't offended. And in fact, afterwards I gave her another 1,000 pesos in coins when I departed which she thanked me for.
I tread on water when in El Centro, and if anything try to befriend people versus piss them off, there is a major "grapevine" with the girls in El Centro so pissing them off, and being rude or disrespectful is not how I roll.
Now as far the bath thing, well you must be down there a lot to have witness this three times and it's a pretty sad sight. Once was enough for me.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2563293]The pregnant girl had a bag of candy in her hand and motioned me over. When I approached I handed her a 500 Peso coin. I never had any interest in her, but was curious if someone so pregnant and so big was actually working, hence I asked the questions in terms of what kind of restrictions she had if she was working and then asked how much out of curiosity. I wasn't there to tease her, and was very polite to her. And what she did ask for, at 40 K, was out of line, and although I'm not a local, she would of never quoted 40 K to a local, hence I laughed, and she wasn't offended. And in fact, afterwards I gave her another 1,000 pesos in coins when I departed which she thanked me for.
I tread on water when in El Centro, and if anything try to befriend people versus piss them off, there is a major "grapevine" with the girls in El Centro so pissing them off, and being rude or disrespectful is not how I roll.
Now as far the bath thing, well you must be down there a lot to have witness this three times and it's a pretty sad sight. Once was enough for me.[/QUOTE]Always a good idea to be culturally sensitive, and even good intentions can have unintended opposite meanings. We would use the phrase in the USA "like apples and oranges" to emphasize differences. When I said that to my novia, "como manzanas why naranjas" my Spanish was fine, but she replied in earnest (translated), "Yes, they are the same, like two round fruits. " Jajajajajaaa, so true. Knowing the culture is as important as knowing the language.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2563230]Decided to try a morning run to centro again, Thur Midday ish, I can only describe it as close to empty. Never saw it that deserted before. There were a few of the usual hardcore putas and that's it.[/QUOTE]I don't agree. I went to the centro today at around 3 pm and it was bustling as usual. The asking price is around 30000 pesos and the room 12000.
There are also a lot of girls in the bars but they are are just here to drink not to have sex (what's the point?
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2563134]Something your missing here is that a lot of the girls in El Centro do not have phones typically because they are so poor they can't afford them, than there those who have them, and loose them, damage them, or have them stolen.
And another issue the girls have is they get a phone, they don't register it with the carrier such as Claro, and hence the service is typically cut off after a month and they loose their number. So even if they have a phone, and you get their number, it might not be around long, let alone them even answering it based on my personal experience dealing with lots of the El Centro girls.
So getting their number's, yes, I always do of the ones I want to see again, but invariably, with the exception of a few, the numbers disappear after a while.[/QUOTE]The what's app # should be carried over though; I also ask for the email address if I really want to see the girl again.
Don't anyone go all Woody Allen on us, keep your mitts off the kinder!
[QUOTE=Bonhead;2563128]Colombian and US authorities do not tolerate engaging in commercial sexual activities with those under the age of 18 regardless of what local Colombian law allows.
Some of you here undoubtedly came across this d-bag over the years. He was always trying to promote parties, live large off of others even though he lived with his mom.
[URL]https://instagram.com/victormedayork?[/URL]
Last week Victor Galarza accepted a plea agreement to plead guilty to several crimes related to sex with minors and production of child pornography. He has been locked up in MDC Brooklyn (Federal prison) since being arrested in October 2019 upon returning to the JFK where HSI agents confiscated his phone and found voluminous details of his criminal activities with minors. His guilty plea means he will face a minimum of 15 years in prison up to 30 years when he is sentenced next month. His plea agreement will likely land him on the lower end of the sentencing guidelines.
Always stay on the right side of the law gents. When in doubt, be smart and move to a situation where there is absolutely zero doubt or room for error.[/QUOTE]
This is an interesting topic that I brought up awhile back. I think and hope we are all trying to avoid getting into legal situations at all costs; but there are undoubtedly times that people have gotten caught in a situation that they have to back pedal out of rapidly. I am sure it has happened thousands, if not tens of thousands of times or more all around the world. I have had at least 3-4 situations over messenger on Facebook where I have spoken to someone, talked about what I am looking for, gave them a proposal and then asked if they had cedulla, and then discovered that this person is not someone I should be talking to. Although my intent is never to engage in a meeting, the statement you made is what I want to know about. Where is the line drawn in the concrete legally as far as US gov is concerned? If you so much as bring the subject up and try to negotiate an arrangement, have you gone too far? What is the legal boundary? Even if you back pedal rapidly when you discover the bad news, is there reason for major concern? I can think of a handful of circumstances where this has happened and it makes a guys stomach drop and blood pressure go through the roof. And since we live in a digital world now, you have to assume that someone is always watching. Especially on FB. Although I do not understand what this guys intent was or if he had knowledge of what he was doing, this guy you are talking about appears to have fully engaged all the way to the bedroom and went full dive into the swimming pool regardless if he knew it or not. Possibly multiple times. But my summary question is; if you stick your foot in the water, can you get it bit off? The law is the law. I would argue that no one is innocent in this world by accident or on purpose in every aspect of their life. We all do our best, and like you said; stay on the legal side, but I would say a lot of people here have slipped and had to back pedal before. I would find it hard to believe that no one has had this happen.
[QUOTE=Bonhead;2563128]Colombian and US authorities do not tolerate engaging in commercial sexual activities with those under the age of 18 regardless of what local Colombian law allows.
Some of you here undoubtedly came across this d-bag over the years. He was always trying to promote parties, live large off of others even though he lived with his mom.
[URL]https://instagram.com/victormedayork?[/URL]
Last week Victor Galarza accepted a plea agreement to plead guilty to several crimes related to sex with minors and production of child pornography. He has been locked up in MDC Brooklyn (Federal prison) since being arrested in October 2019 upon returning to the JFK where HSI agents confiscated his phone and found voluminous details of his criminal activities with minors. His guilty plea means he will face a minimum of 15 years in prison up to 30 years when he is sentenced next month. His plea agreement will likely land him on the lower end of the sentencing guidelines.
Always stay on the right side of the law gents. When in doubt, be smart and move to a situation where there is absolutely zero doubt or room for error.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2563349]The what's app # should be carried over though; I also ask for the email address if I really want to see the girl again.[/QUOTE]Maybe my post wasn't clear, a lot of the girls in El Centro are so poor they don't even have phones, and if they do, they have burner phones versus smart phones. Hence these girls are not going to have Interent service, Whatsapp, or E-mail. I do wish every girl I meet in El Centro that I want to see again had what you mentioned, but am lucky most of the time if they even have a phone. I'm not saying all the girls don't have smart phones there, lots of them do, yet there are lots as well with no phones or just burner phones.
[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2563346]I don't agree. I went to the centro today at around 3 pm and it was bustling as usual. The asking price is around 30000 pesos and the room 12000.
There are also a lot of girls in the bars but they are are just here to drink not to have sex (what's the point?[/QUOTE]JohhnyO said he was there mid-day. If that meant around noon or 1 PM, it will be sparce with a lot more girls out at the time you were there.
[QUOTE=Kavin76;2563360]This is an interesting topic that I brought up awhile back. I think and hope we are all trying to avoid getting into legal situations at all costs; but there are undoubtedly times that people have gotten caught in a situation that they have to back pedal out of rapidly. I am sure it has happened thousands, if not tens of thousands of times or more all around the world. I have had at least 3-4 situations over messenger on Facebook where I have spoken to someone, talked about what I am looking for, gave them a proposal and then asked if they had cedulla, and then discovered that this person is not someone I should be talking to. Although my intent is never to engage in a meeting, the statement you made is what I want to know about. Where is the line drawn in the concrete legally as far as US gov is concerned? If you so much as bring the subject up and try to negotiate an arrangement, have you gone too far? What is the legal boundary? Even if you back pedal rapidly when you discover the bad news, is there reason for major concern? I can think of a handful of circumstances where this has happened and it makes a guys stomach drop and blood pressure go through the roof. And since we live in a digital world now, you have to assume that someone is always watching. Especially on FB. Although I do not understand what this guys intent was or if he had knowledge of what he was doing, this guy you are talking about appears to have fully engaged all the way to the bedroom and went full dive into the swimming pool regardless if he knew it or not. Possibly multiple times. But my summary question is; if you stick your foot in the water, can you get it bit off? The law is the law. I would argue that no one is innocent in this world by accident or on purpose in every aspect of their life. We all do our best, and like you said; stay on the legal side, but I would say a lot of people here have slipped and had to back pedal before. I would find it hard to believe that no one has had this happen.[/QUOTE]There is a different kind of electronic or "paper" trail left beind from a Gringo who is being conned by a too young chica with fake ID and a Gringo who is seeking. The key is from the moment you become aware that the person with whom you are communicating might be misrepresenting themselves, that you cut off all contact, and you send a copy of the message to your lawyer explaining why, and you will 99.99999% of the time never hear another word about it. I agree with zero tolerance, but most of Gringos who get busted for this are repeat, obvious, flagrant offenders and not one-off guys. I would also be concerned about the potential for blackmail from a chica, family, and gang from trapping a guy into receiving nude fotos across international lines, but again, what you do AFTER you find out the truth, is the key. Guys with "short eyes" really do have a psychiatric problem, considering the virtually unlimited supply of hot young legal chicas 18 and over in Medellin. There is no reason to swim in such dangerous waters.
[QUOTE=BigFree;2562743]Heya,
First time poster, but a subscriber.
Can someone give me a leg up and off one or two girls (link to their profiles) and I'll take it from there as far as trying to mine their friends lists and their friends friends list and so on.
[/QUOTE]Follow this link.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2563156]Read the reports that are linked in this thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2563143]From what I learned over the years it's an overgrowth of bacteria in her pussy. It can be caused by multiple partners who may be unclean or overuse of antibiotics. The worse the case the worse the odor. I can't remember the last time I has a chick with that odor in Colombia, in Brazil or even in Peru for that matter. It's been years since I was in Costa Rica but I did run into that bone killing stench more than once in Costa Rica. I think it is connected to a yeast infection and guys can get it too. Maybe our health professional members can tell us more.[/QUOTE]I've experienced that mainly in Asia. Costa Rica was maybe 10%. Never in Colombia or Germany.