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[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1376840]To quote others quoting others, really, R T F F.

Increasingly so much of what is being asked has really been covered before if you just take the time to look back.

It does seem that many find this too difficult, or this is just part of our generation's attention deficit disorder, where if it isn't some instant app fact, people just can't be bothered.

Maybe some of you computer experts (SL) can explain (yet again) how to do searches? For those unable to just read the forum FAQs.[/QUOTE]I'm not yet friends with the search-function, sometimes it works like a charm and other times I can't even find a post I know I read a couple of months ago. Also some repeated questions, can be good. If it was answered / covered a couple of years ago, things can have changed. Or if you want more / additional info about something.

As an example, I tried to search for info about the pdf that contains information about the girls in Artemis [Sharks and Peformers Artemis. Copy. Copy (1). Pdf] and I couldn't find any info even though I searched the Artemis- thread. What I wanted to know was if it was updated?

Finding stuff like that is what I really like with this forum, but if the info is verry old it's not particulary informative.

[QUOTE=Finite;1376921], I tried to search for info about the pdf that contains information about the girls in Artemis [Sharks and Peformers Artemis. Copy. Copy (1). Pdf] and I couldn't find any info even though I searched the Artemis- thread. What I wanted to know was if it was updated?[/QUOTE]F-There are substantial staff changes all the time at the Love Bahnhoff-in a given week who is on vs who is gone might approach 20-30% of the total. So any list will be instantly out of date.

But more important, any list is so highly subjective to the point of worthless. We all have our various tastes, and how a given woman responds to a given man is very much a question of their individual chemistry, which can vary by the hour (as anyone who has been married can verify). While some girls do get rave reviews frequently, you may find some of the raver'd unattractive (I do) , so it's a moot point. YMMV rules.

The so-called sharks, or starfish can usually be sussed out with a little olde fashioned taking the time to talk beforehand and improving your vibe detector. But sometimes disappointment just happens. I think I am fairly good at predicting a good time for both parties, and I assure you, I have blown it badly every now and then. All part of the deal, and no list will help. But I am sure somewhere, someone is beavering away (ha) to develop the ultimate monger crowd-sourced iHo Tute App and you will soon be able to meet a candidate, and ask Siri to check her reviews in the database.

[QUOTE=EastGoing;1376819]after all on ISG we are basically a family of pen pals, and meeting up might spoil the image and the feeling.[/QUOTE]I have met several ISG-members personally until now, it has always been very nice.

[QUOTE]Mmmh, first attempt was good, your part even came out inside blue box, after editing is an unwatchable all white.[/QUOTE]Okay, then you killed the "/QUOTE" at the end of my part while editing, and that's why it became part of your report and turned white.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1377512]F-There are substantial staff changes all the time at the Love Bahnhoff-in a given week who is on vs who is gone might approach 20-30% of the total. So any list will be instantly out of date.

But more important, any list is so highly subjective to the point of worthless. We all have our various tastes, and how a given woman responds to a given man is very much a question of their individual chemistry, which can vary by the hour (as anyone who has been married can verify). While some girls do get rave reviews frequently, you may find some of the raver'd unattractive (I do) , so it's a moot point. YMMV rules.

The so-called sharks, or starfish can usually be sussed out with a little olde fashioned taking the time to talk beforehand and improving your vibe detector. But sometimes disappointment just happens. I think I am fairly good at predicting a good time for both parties, and I assure you, I have blown it badly every now and then. All part of the deal, and no list will help. But I am sure somewhere, someone is beavering away (ha) to develop the ultimate monger crowd-sourced iHo Tute App and you will soon be able to meet a candidate, and ask Siri to check her reviews in the database.[/QUOTE]You are probably right about the "Swindler's List", but it was more about that everything isn't as easy to find even if you try to search the thread [or maybe I'm just a computer-illiterate or have a attention deficit disorder, but refuse to admit it].

About the starfish-database it can be quite fun to see what others think about some of the more frequent visiting girls, especially if I can recognize her from my own visits at the place. By the way, what monger doesn't think he's great at recognizing sharks on this fora.

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1376384]Wanking, Angus, please post about Caligula and King George, which are the only 2 flatrate open in Berlin at the moment, as far as I know. I read german threads very often, but it's hard to go through thousands of post.

Thank you for your attention[/QUOTE]Well, for King George, I think that Angus wrote THE final words here: [url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=310[/url]

But my old experience (end of 2011) for Caligula is the following. I paid 99 euros entering at 19. 00 (but at that time. 79 from 11. 00 to 15. 00).

But I have to specify that flat rate is inclusive only of (covered) half and half. Every single other extra is over the flat rate. E. G. 10 euros for DFK. 10 euros for BBBJ and 20 for CIM. So flat rate is ONLY for standard intercourse. Every extra depends on the girl. The majority of them are Romanian.

The place is neither more nor less a stripclub with girls dancing very lazy, and when you want to "pick up" one of these you have 4 rooms available with a shower, but if all the rooms are occupied you can f*k also on the sofas.

Looking around, in addition to girls dancing on poles, I noticed the customers composed mostly of Turkish and the atmosphere of "stripclub in the suburbs".

In fact I think it's fun to go with friends to get drunk and eventually get one or two turns on the rides. A friend of mine did not have really made, but I found a nice-looking brunette rumenian, with a nice ass wearing net stockings, a micro tong leopard print and bdsm black boots. As an old w*e!

In the end I wanted to have a BBBJ so I paid the 10 euros extra. A well done BJ without using her hands and I ended the session with a doggystyle.

As you can see, the flatrate was then only for the hangover that we've taken, looking at these asses dancing on poles!

I don't forget to tell you that the single shot was at most 20 minutes at that time. But now seeing at their website: [url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/caligula-bordell-berlin.html[/url] I noticed that ther is also the 30 minutes-option. Maybe the crisis?

In short, I had fun because of the atmosphere of fooling around and because basically the beauty of mongering is IMHO also the amusing mood between one shag and another, and that place did not take itself too seriously (and even girls didn't). So much better fun that in a place full of icy stunner, such as FKK Palace.

Of course, not the top in Berlin.

Sorry for my poor english

[QUOTE=Wanking; 1376346]I love both FKKs and Flatrate. The reason I do mostly cheap flatrate clubs is to save money, simple as. If I had more money I would spend more time in FKK clubs. I often spend a day in an FKK after a full day in a flatrate on the previous day, which works well because I am not as horny on day 2 and therefore 1 or 2 session will satisfy me in the FKK, after cumming maybe 5 times with 8 to 10 women the previous day in the Flatrate.

Thing is I wouldn't be happy only having 1 or 2 sessions in an FKK on the first day of my trip if I hadn't fucked for a month or two previously, and I don't want to pay 5 or 6 individual session along with entry which could hit me for maybe €400, SO I always go to Flatrate on day 1.

Over the last year I have been going to cheap party called Cleopatra Arena which is near Dusseldorf. I have been going there on the first day of my trip. They usually have 4 bareback girls along 4 to 6 Covered girls, and most sessions are in private rooms plus the service is pretty good. When you leave the club they give you a €25 discount card for your next visit. On my last visit in December I only paid €54 for a day of sex along with the discount card, this was the price for covered sex only, but being the sneaky ole bastard that I am, I still managed a few bareback sessions LOL. Now €54 for a whole day of sex with 8 women, and 12 sessions I can live with. I like Cheap LOL! You can read about it here.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3243-Cleopatra-Arena-Gelsenkirchen&p=1369052&viewfull=1#post1369052[/url][/QUOTE]Let me say just few words again about the brothels all-inclusive. I hope it doesn't be boring. I think that the philosophy under that kind of brothel is that in any cases, is difficult that a customer could be over 2-3 sessions (but not for Wanking). The same madam in the brothels said that!

Of course, the "quality" both of the service and the girl is not comparable with an FKK BUT, it depends also on what we mean by quality.

Quality of the intercourse? Well, as I said, I had much more fun in that half and half to Caligula than in a pretended-30 minutes at FKK Palace with an icy stunner: no touch here, no kiss, you have to give an extra for kissing, and so on.

Quality of girls? Well, it is true that on average it si not comparable a working girl to Caligula, Pussy, etc. With a stunner of Artemis, Palace or GoldenTime, but exluding these places at the top, I saw many 4, 5-5 also in some FKK's such as World and Sharks. Of course, you can find "The Pearl" everywhere, we are talking about average.

In conclusion, the two formulas are different but both valid, depending on what a person looks for and on condition that we are talking about two completely different levels of "sexual supply".

How wanking has already said, I had fun in both places too (in any case the artemis is superior, talking about girls and location).

The caligula is truly a " informal" and unpretentious place, but still funny if taken in the right way, while the Artemis is a top class-FKK with all the comforts that one pretends to find in a place like this. But not necessarily the level of a place goes hand in hand with the quality of individual shots with the girl. That's my opinion, based on my experience and personal preferences regarding the aptitude of mongering.

[QUOTE=Wanking;1376346]I love both FKKs and Flatrate. The reason I do mostly cheap flatrate clubs is to save money, simple as. If I had more money I would spend more time in FKK clubs. I often spend a day in an FKK after a full day in a flatrate on the previous day, which works well because I am not as horny on day 2 and therefore 1 or 2 session will satisfy me in the FKK, after cumming maybe 5 times with 8 to 10 women the previous day in the Flatrate.[/QUOTE]I hope not to be boring. Let me say just few words about the "philosophy" underneath the flatrate clubs. The idea is that in any case a monger isn't able to do more than 2 or 3 different shots (but not Wanking). The same madams in the brothels said it explicitly. So, IMHO it is wrong to pose the question in terms of quality vs quantity as I read before. Said that, generally speaching the quality of both the service and the girl in that kind of clubs is not comparable with an FKK. But, in what sense we talking about quality?

Quality of the girls?

Yes, of course on average it is impossible to compare the girls who work in an FKK such as Artemis with those who work at Caligula. But excluding topclass-FKK such as Palace, Artemis, Mainhattan or GoldenTime I saw many 4, 5-5 also in places like FKK World or Sharks.

Quality of service?

I don't think that there is a necessary link between the girl's beauty and my personal satisfaction of sexual intercourse. I mean, to keep the example of Caligula, I enjoyed most in that half and half I wrote before than in the last pretended half an hour of sexual intercourse with an icy stunner of FKK Palace. So, not necessarily the level of a place and of a girl goes hand in hand with the quality of the singles shots with the girls.

In conclusion, the two formulas are different but both valid, depending on what a monger looks and as long as we are aware that we are talking about two completely different levels of "sexual supply".

The caligula is truly a unformal and unpretentious place, but still funny if taken in the right direction, while the Artemis is a top class-FKK with all the amenities and comfort that one expects to find in a place like this.

Like wanking, I had fun in both places: it depends on your mood and what you look for in that moment.

What I want to point out is that often the quality of a sexual service doesn't depend on its cost or on "the name" of the place in which it is supplied, but of course this only my opinion, based on my experiences and personal tastes in the aptitude of mongering.

Hi guys, anyone has ever had a Nuru massage in Berlin? How it has been (what happens exactly. I have read something not specific)?

I've read here "Paris N. 5" they offers Nuru massage, and I think I'll try soon, anyone tried before me?

Thank you, I'll let you know my experience asap.

Hi Putantour, hi I just wrote on the Saturday thread Thai massage Berlin: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3386-Thai-Massage-Berlin&p=1378549#post1378549[/url]

The nuru massage is my favorite among all types of massage, and to Verona's massage I found a very good quality as location, as girls and massage.

Not cheap but with about 140 euro you have an hour of massage. There is also the possibility of making the nuru massage with 2 girls.

The girls are OK, but unfortunately I haven't seen oriental girls (but it is my determination to make me do the nuru an eel like Asa Akira).

[QUOTE=Putantour; 1379150]Hi guys, anyone has ever had a Nuru massage in Berlin? How it has been (what happens exactly. I have read something not specific)?

I've read here "Paris N. 5" they offers Nuru massage, and I think I'll try soon, anyone tried before me?

Thank you, I'll let you know my experience asap.[/QUOTE]Never tried this but often thought of it. It will be good to get a report. The concept sounds good but I do wonder if the extra expense is justified. A really good tantra massage is also more expensive but with tantra (proper tantra at a good studio) you know the girl has some training. As I have said before-the trouble with many massage ladies is that they carry and attitude about not being sex workers. It is like they do this rather than come to terms with some shame of wanking guys for money. This is why I personally steer clear of massage but if I could find a good one I would love it.

AM

[QUOTE=PunterWanderer;1378983]What I want to point out is that often the quality of a sexual service doesn't depend on its cost or on "the name" of the place in which it is supplied, but of course this only my opinion, based on my experiences and personal tastes in the aptitude of mongering.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. However what I eventually found is that I spent the same amount of cash over the long run doing a variety of sub standard hookers to find the one who gave me a solid session. At a bigger name bordello or FKK I can side step some of the selection process (which is done for me in the hiring process of the bordello) and end up with sessions that I generally like. Granted I miss out of the sub standard sessions which some guys might also enjoy but in the end I really do think a guys spends more or less the same amount of cash cruising around the flat rates as he does in a single good night at Artemis or some place similar.

But yeah if numbers are important to you the flat rates make a whole lot of sense and some gems can be found.

AM

Hello all! Love the information that is available here on ISG. I'm coming to Berlin for work for a February and I'm interested in checking out a few places. I've done some searching through the threads and I have some information already but I'm looking for some last minute advise as I'll be in town this coming weekend. As advised by many on ISG, I intend to check out FKK Artemis during this trip. I also intend to check out the GBatErlebniswohnung at least once. I'm hoping to enjoy myself there and reply with a wonderful report. I have a few questions as I may try a third location on my visit.

1. I'm on the fence about Tiffany or Bar Mondschein. Any recommendations / preferences? I couldn't tell if Mondschein was still open as their website was down.

2. Anything near the Mitte area that's relatively inexpensive. I'm not certain my discipline will hold at Artemis so my budget may get eaten up there. .

3. Any problems at these places with black men, I've read the thread on ERW and saw the answer there, but the question is more for the other three places.

For the record my budget is between 3-700 Euro depending on how good / bad the experience is at the first two places.

[QUOTE=Willg666; 1380462]Hello all! Love the information that is available here on ISG. I'm coming to Berlin for work for a February and I'm interested in checking out a few places. I've done some searching through the threads and I have some information already but I'm looking for some last minute advise as I'll be in town this coming weekend. As advised by many on ISG, I intend to check out FKK Artemis during this trip. I also intend to check out the GBatErlebniswohnung at least once. I'm hoping to enjoy myself there and reply with a wonderful report. I have a few questions as I may try a third location on my visit.

1. I'm on the fence about Tiffany or Bar Mondschein. Any recommendations / preferences? I couldn't tell if Mondschein was still open as their website was down.

2. Anything near the Mitte area that's relatively inexpensive. I'm not certain my discipline will hold at Artemis so my budget may get eaten up there. .

3. Any problems at these places with black men, I've read the thread on ERW and saw the answer there, but the question is more for the other three places.

For the record my budget is between 3-700 Euro depending on how good / bad the experience is at the first two places.[/QUOTE]Tiffany's get mixed reviews, but I have had good times there. It's an OK mid-end brothel, I don't do Swingerclubs or flatrates but they seem fairly unexpensive.

Don't understand what you mean with problems with black men. I don't care if an other monger is black at an fkk, and I don't think so many others do either. As for the girls, I don't think they care. Why should they?

Hi all,

I'm visiting Berlin end of March. Has anybody had luck using mamba search for girls in Berlin and had any luck. I'm sending a lot of messages and almost getting no replies. More than 80 msgs I think.

Any advice?

[QUOTE=Finite;1380682]Don't understand what you mean with problems with black men. I don't care if an other monger is black at an fkk, and I don't think so many others do either. As for the girls, I don't think they care. Why should they?[/QUOTE]Just was curious of any racism that may occur. For entrance or service. Thanks for the info.