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[QUOTE=Nounce;2563368]Follow this link.[/QUOTE]I have to admit I started this a couple of months ago and it works. I now have 42 connections (all chicas in Medellin and Cartagena). I am planning my trip for next year so should have over 100 by then. I also check their photos on google reverse image search, in a few cases I have found that the accounts are fake.
Thanks to JjBee62.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2564077]I just realized reading my post that I mistyped, I meant to say it is NOT an isolated incident but that it is isolated to the area that these protests are planed for as the people in these videos are saying, if you follow the notifications about when and where the protests are and stay away. I am just not sure where they post these notices of where and when the protests are going to be.
I do not know if the couple that make the "How to expat" are in Laureles and I agree if this shit is going down like this on La70 then a person staying in that area could get penned down in their apartment or hotel for the at least as long as the protest lasted. I think that one guy who made the video with that shows protest footage stays in EL Poblado, I think the protests in Poblado have been in the area of Exito / Calle 10/ Cr 43 a. I hear that the protests in Envigado are peaceful because the old hit crew that was the equivalent of Murder Inc (the real mafia hitman firm not the hip hop music label) that took over the cartels after Escobar went down, they put out the word that if there was any violence in Envigado they would be the ones to end it.
So depending on what type of mongering you do I think could effect your decision, for example if you did Facebook chicas or any chicas that come to you maybe get an apartment in the upper side of Poblado or out in Envigado if you can find something that allows visitors, I have read in the past that some guys prefer staying out in Envigado because it is walkable are and quiet.[/QUOTE]Having been caught up in the riots the other day I have to disagree with everything you said and with the contents of those videos for a number of reasons and I have shared some of the shocking video footage and photos I took the other day with other BMs to back it up. By the way I'm typing this on mobile.
Laureles is considered to be safe area among tourists and expats as well as Poblado, with the protests you have no idea whether they will turn into all out war or not. With the protests in Laureles I know a number of guys who had no idea the protests were taking place. I heard there were protests but had no idea they would be in Laureles, as well as the fact that there was supposed to be the biggest protests of all time the week before which I don't think actually happened.
During the protests in Laureles I know BMs who stay in the hotels on La Setenta (I also think Osteknot does) and what happened was they set a bank on fire, fully ablaze inside which is next door to a popular hotel which I have video footage of. Now, for all of you saying well I guess it's ok if you just stay in your hote or apartmentl, I'd advise you rethink that when they start setting buildings and the infrastructure on fire which is exactly what happened.
The whole of the LE setanta became a war zone and what would happen if you had a flight out that day?
Now here is an interesting observation, while the bank and electricity boxes were on fire, people were just gathered directly outside taking pictures in front of the firefighters and next to the hotel. If that was in Europe everywhere within a 1 km radius would be evacuated and shutdown.
Now when these riots start up can anyone guarantee that the same thing won't happen again in Poblado where they start setting buildings on fire and all out anarchy takes place where you are in severe danger. No.
The fact of the matter is Medellin or Colombia is bubbling over right now and these people have upped the ante with no end in sight. During the recent riots I was actually walking home and walked into a full scale riot and got tear gassed. It was pretty scary with smoke and explosions everywhere.
Now you guys can watch youtube videos and listen to various Putas that are not usually the sharpest tools in the shed and are probably used to violence, in order to convince yourselves it's not that bad but when your hiding in your hotel room with buildings burning around you, premises getting ransacked and destroyed by an angry mob wondering if your building is going to be the next target I'm sure your opinion is going to be quite different.
Now before you all rush to PM for the footage I happy to share with 2 senior members such as Surfer, Mr Enternational or the Tall Man, dtc just PM your what's app but I can't sit here on mobile all day sending PMs to everyone. Take care out there.
Edit. Just a further observation for any of you that remember the riots in Tottenham London when they started settling buildings on fire in the same way and that situation quickly got out of control with people leaping from the top floors to get out. I'm not trying to scare anyone thinking of coming but I think it's time for a reality check..
So what is your advice? Guys should not come here?
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2564124]Having been caught up in the riots the other day I have to disagree with everything you said and with the contents of those videos for a number of reasons and I have shared some of the shocking video footage and photos I took the other day with other BMs to back it up. By the way I'm typing this on mobile.
Laureles is considered to be safe area among tourists and expats as well as Poblado, with the protests you have no idea whether they will turn into all out war or not. With the protests in Laureles I know a number of guys who had no idea the protests were taking place. I heard there were protests but had no idea they would be in Laureles, as well as the fact that there was supposed to be the biggest protests of all time the week before which I don't think actually happened.
During the protests in Laureles I know BMs who stay in the hotels on La Setenta (I also think Osteknot does) and what happened was they set a bank on fire, fully ablaze inside which is next door to a popular hotel which I have video footage of. Now, for all of you saying well I guess it's ok if you just stay in your hote or apartmentl, I'd advise you rethink that when they start setting buildings and the infrastructure on fire which is exactly what happened.
The whole of the LE setanta became a war zone and what would happen if you had a flight out that day?
Now here is an interesting observation, while the bank and electricity boxes were on fire, people were just gathered directly outside taking pictures in front of the firefighters and next to the hotel. If that was in Europe everywhere within a 1 km radius would be evacuated and shutdown..[/QUOTE]
I find it very depressing what I have read about the protests, violence, and mayhem, especially in Laureles. I really like Laureles and would of never thought something like that would occur there. And am concerned that these protests in essence have been superspreader events as evidenced in the upward trend of COVID cases and am wondering know if there's going to be more weekend lockdowns.
Regardless, fuck all the madness going on in this Country, on Friday afternoon I left town and it was a hassle to get out of town with the Autopista all jacked up. Anyways I got to the Caribe station on the METRO and the North Bus Station and caught a collectivo to San Geronimo which is on the way to Santa Fe de Antioquia. When there's no traffic it usually only takes an hour to San Geronimo and another 1/2 hour to Santa Fe. I rented an apartment in San Geronimo, it's a small town with lots of Hostel's, hotels, and Fincas. At the main entrance to town there is an EXITO and where all transport stops in route headed north. In the town itself there is a central park, a Church, lots of small places to eat around the park, along with all kinds of stores. It's very kicked back, and the main mode of transport around town is by tuk-tuks just like in Asia.
On Saturday I caught a colectivo to Santa Fe to eat at my favorite restaraunt there named Casa Solariega. It's only open on Fridays and Saturday's and you have to have a reservation to eat there. The owner is from Belgium and the menu is all European, and they have a very large selection of beers from Europe and wines from all over the World. When you step into this place it's like being in Europe, you would never know your in Colombia. And if you like snail, rabbit, lamb, and European dishes like Bouillabaisse, Hungarian Goulash, and Lamb stews this is the place. There's no restaurant in Medellin like this and I highly recommend the place.
And just to stay on topic, there are a few girls working the streets in Santa Fe, yet I wasn't in a position to explore this as I always bring company with me when I head this direction. It's very relaxing having an apartment and nice large pools to play in.
Life is good!
There is also strong evidence and video footage to suggest that the army are arming criminal elements to infiltrate protests in order to illegitimise thier cause, which will also make it easier for the government to crackdown harder.
[URL]https://youtu.be/WB2isJA1JdU[/URL]
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2563989]The price is controlled by supply and demand, pure and simple. If it makes a mongerer feel like he is controlling price individually by the deals he strikes, more power to him, but it's delusional, plain and simple. The price is a result of and not a cause of market forces in play. Personalizing it, and injecting ego into the formula is irrelevant. Price went up over time because of increased demand and pretending like you can control that by sticking to a certain price, will eventually eliminate you from the market. That is where the desperation comes from with these mongers who are functioning on the edge already. Their sense of inevitability that says no matter how much they complain, point fingers, blame others for their failures, it's going to happen. You are going to get priced out and good riddance, jejeje. Some of the beliefs systems here are laughable.[/QUOTE]Spot on. Especially when 50+ year olds start talking about alpha vs beta in the p4p market, hilarious stuff. I'll pay what I want for pussy and could careless if broke asses whine about it; call it gentrification, they can go find p4p in the barrios Jajajaja.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2564037]It's not my fault you're making generalizations.
Or, did someone else post that under your name?
Let's nip this in the bud. Most rich people didn't get rich by being frugal. Most rich people got rich by being born to rich parents. If they were frugal there wouldn't be a first class section on airlines, there wouldn't be $50-$100 k per night hotel rooms, there wouldn't be $100 k wristwatches, the list goes on and on.
If rich people were smart with their money explain Bernie Madoff. All you have to do is spend 2 hours in Parque Lleras and you'll understand that you don't know much about rich people. They're as likely as anyone to pay much more than necessary.
There's a guy who spends a lot of time in both Medellin and Thailand, nice guy, I've met him a few times. It's a running joke with several of the ex-pats that you don't want to get any of his girls when he's done with them, because they'll expect too much. You have to give them a few months to get connected back to the normal price structure.
There are guys buying putas houses, cars, jewelry and it's not the guys who are maxing out their credit cards to go on vacation.[/QUOTE]Don't compare pussy to cars.
You can't compare a blowjob to a Mercedes.
[URL]https://freakonomics.com/2008/07/16/cheap-wine/[/URL]
You like to point to outliers, I've never seen a hooker with sores so I don't know where you monger, a puta spending $1000 to get ready for a john jajajajajajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
What in a movie called pretty woman.
For every fool sitting in 1st class with money there are 100 in coach.
BTW even airlines are ditching 1st class, not enough chumps (or expense accts that will pay for it).
Outliers are just that, I'm not going to post something and then argue with you for 2 hrs.
If you want to meet me, bring 10000 usd and I will and we will find a 3rd party to hold it.
I will prove what I do to you, or you get the loot.
Or I will gladly take it.
If you want to continually argue I will just use the ignore button.
So you can argue with someone else.
Here's a tip.
Think before you type and type slower maybe cut back on the caffeine.
Alright finally got a subscription, if anyone's going to be there June 12-19 let me know, I'm looking to hit up the Mansion and other spots as well.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2564043]You expect me to believe that any of the girls in El Centro are only asking for 30 k from everyone because they really are desperate to have sex with everyone? Meanwhile the girls hanging all over the guys in Gusto, asking for $200 are disgusted by the guys there?
Does that translate to other areas as well? Do restaurants with $200 entrees just charge that much because they are disgusted by the customers? And the guys selling empanadas on the street love the customers?
Do you also believe gynecologists charge less for their more attractive patients?
Hookers don't "want your milk." They aren't spreading their legs and opening their mouths because they enjoy collecting sperm. It's a job. They do it for money. They don't show up at your door and suddenly lower or raise their rates because you look better or worse than they expected.
Not long ago you were complaining about people posting bad information and then you come out with this?[/QUOTE]Do you want to repeat you don't think a puta in any city in the world will quote a guy that's a 10 the same as a 1, or a -10?
Do you realize how silly you look?
Here is my final reply to you, I'm not going to spend hours arguing with you because you have nothing better to do, like you do with Elvis.
[URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women[/URL]
[URL]https://www.wbez.org/stories/asian-american-men-less-likely-to-date-interacially/f314cd06-067c-4145-b0d0-474bd58df0dd[/URL]
If you are trying to get me to boast then I will, I do better than most, if that bothers you, take it up with your DNA providers, not me.
Your lame attempts at sophistry, and social inversion are unimpressive, I sure hope you aren't an atty.
Here are 2 NPR stories, go ahead and try to say this doesn't apply to putas, if anything its even much more pronounced in the puta market.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2564043]You expect me to believe that any of the girls in El Centro are only asking for 30 k from everyone because they really are desperate to have sex with everyone? Meanwhile the girls hanging all over the guys in Gusto, asking for $200 are disgusted by the guys there?
Does that translate to other areas as well? Do restaurants with $200 entrees just charge that much because they are disgusted by the customers? And the guys selling empanadas on the street love the customers?
Do you also believe gynecologists charge less for their more attractive patients?
Hookers don't "want your milk." They aren't spreading their legs and opening their mouths because they enjoy collecting sperm. It's a job. They do it for money. They don't show up at your door and suddenly lower or raise their rates because you look better or worse than they expected.
Not long ago you were complaining about people posting bad information and then you come out with this?[/QUOTE]Most chicas on the planet will do anything with anyone with enough bribery.
Now for an example try to pull it off with one of them for $5, how many chicos can do it?
The truth is the truth whether you like it or not.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FnO3igOkOk&t=47s[/URL]
[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2564169]There is also strong evidence and video footage to suggest that the army are arming criminal elements to infiltrate protests in order to illegitimise thier cause, which will also make it easier for the government to crackdown harder.
[URL]https://youtu.be/WB2isJA1JdU[/URL][/QUOTE]Actually, it will make it harder for the Government to crackdown. Colombia, with what's been happening now, is bringing back memories of the Pablo Escobar days, not something they would like the world to be reminded of.
And I can tell you that there are many Colombians in Medellin who are ashamed of of their City's past history, which was once the murder capital of the world.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2564154]So what is your advice? Guys should not come here?[/QUOTE]Honestly I don't feel that it's my call to make but it's clearly evident that ithere major civil unrest here which has been escalating with the potential for it to escalate even further. Coupled with the fact that most embassies are advising against travelling to Colombia and therefore if things go south you're unlikely to get assistance, is that a situation you want to put yourself in? If it was a friend asking me I would advise against it.
One more thing, on the same day as the riots around midday I heard someone screaming, I thought it was just another local looney. The screaming got louder and I heard breaking glass and more commotion. I decided to look out of my balcony and there was a crowd chasing 2, guys on a motorbike, with the guy on the back pointing a pistol at the crowd. Then I saw a girl also running while crying and picking up some belongings off the ground.
A couple of weeks coming back from dinner with Happy shiva I heard another commotion just off la Setenta on 44 a. A car started speeding up the street with yet again a crowd chasing it while there was a girl hanging on to the side of the car getting dragged all the way up the street. It was like something out of a movie.
Welcome to the mad House.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2564213]Do you want to repeat you don't think a puta in any city in the world will quote a guy that's a 10 the same as a 1, or a -10?
Do you realize how silly you look?
Here is my final reply to you, I'm not going to spend hours arguing with you because you have nothing better to do, like you do with Elvis.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/11/30/247530095/are-you-interested-dating-odds-favor-white-men-asian-women
https://www.wbez.org/stories/asian-american-men-less-likely-to-date-interacially/f314cd06-067c-4145-b0d0-474bd58df0dd
If you are trying to get me to boast then I will, I do better than most, if that bothers you, take it up with your DNA providers, not me.
Your lame attempts at sophistry, and social inversion are unimpressive, I sure hope you aren't an atty.
Here are 2 NPR stories, go ahead and try to say this doesn't apply to putas, if anything its even much more pronounced in the puta market.[/QUOTE]I thought you didn't like outliers? Now you're basing your claims on finding one hooker, one place in the world, who varies her rates?
Why is it that whenever I set up another monger with a girl in Medellin she sets her rate before knowing anything about the guy? Why is it that the casas and strip clubs have an established rate? Why do photoprepagos why mileroticos girls quote prices over WhatsApp? Why is it that one girl, charged the same price for 5 different guys over a period of several weeks, guys ranging from under 30 to over 60, from fit to fat?
What's this silliness about doing better than most? They're prostitutes. They sell sex for money. There's no better or worse. You pay, you get laid. As long as you bathe regularly and know how to use a toothbrush, you'll have no difficulty, regardless of what you look like. They don't base whether or not they're taking customers on how attractive they think the guy is. They base it on how much they need the money.
If you had ever been to a mongering destination you would know this. I've hung out with guys in Medellin who are still in their 20's and guys in their 70's. I've met up with guys who could barely climb a flight of stairs and guys who run marathons. I've seen guys who looked like models, and guys with faces even their mother has a tough time loving. They're all getting laid and mostly they're all paying about the same.
There's a simple way to solve this. I'll be in Medellin June 16-25. Just show up and hit me up. I'll call up a girl to meet you. You can prove that she'll charge you much less than her normal price.
[QUOTE=BlackThought;2564194]Spot on. Especially when 50+ year olds start talking about alpha vs beta in the p4p market, hilarious stuff. I'll pay what I want for pussy and could careless if broke asses whine about it; call it gentrification, they can go find p4p in the barrios Jajajaja.[/QUOTE]They all are from the barrios. Though some have been in the game long enough to get some risky surgery and a fake Gucci purse to tote. I've seen it time and again, girls start out in Centro strip clubs then graduate to Fase Dos. Or start in a Centro casa then go to Energy then Lutron, Facebook or Cartegena, and almost invariably looked better when they were new to game, natural, and charging a small fraction of the price they later came to expect. But in the process of paying more you get a bit better "ambience" though it all looks and smells about the same when the lights go on at the end of the night. And you can feel like a bigshot, Money Mayweather make it rain and what not, call others broke, but that's typically just as fake as the girls you are paying too much for. That said, enjoy. It's your fantasy. Jajajaja.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2564270]They all are from the barrios. Though some have been in the game long enough to get some risky surgery and a fake Gucci purse to tote. I've seen it time and again, girls start out in Centro strip clubs then graduate to Fase Dos. Or start in a Centro casa then go to Energy then Lutron, Facebook or Cartegena, and almost invariably looked better when they were new to game, natural, and charging a small fraction of the price they later came to expect. But in the process of paying more you get a bit better "ambience" though it all looks and smells about the same when the lights go on at the end of the night. And you can feel like a bigshot, Money Mayweather make it rain and what not, call others broke, but that's typically just as fake as the girls you are paying too much for. That said, enjoy. It's your fantasy. Jajajaja.[/QUOTE]Yup, I prefer the fake look and the ambience at gusto / la isla over el centro. We have different tastes and budgets, spending 30 k vs 300 k doesn't make or break me. If I lived there, it would likely be different.
Ive never been to el centro, but based on the YouTube videos, the chicas are definitely not my type