Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Turgid;2910269]Fake hooker: "Hey, you wanna have a good time?"

Monger: "Are you an undercover cop?"

Fake hooker: "No darling, come let me relieve some of that stress you seem to be under".

Monger: "How much?"

Fake hooker "You're under arrest". Slaps on handcuff.

Love American Style.[/QUOTE]From [URL]https://www.feldmanroyle.com/sex-crimes/prostitution/[/URL].

"Do Undercover Cops Have To Tell You?

It is a common misconception that undercover cops have to tell you that they are police, if asked directly. However, under US law, police officers are permitted to lie and mislead suspects. Therefore, if you hope to differentiate an undercover cop from a prostitute, simply asking will not work.

How To Tell If Its A Prostitution Sting.

The bottom line is that there is no definitive way to tell if it's a prostitution sting. That said, undercover law enforcement will normally get straight to negotiations as they should not engage in any sex acts. Commonly, undercover cops will work quickly to encourage a suspect to state clearly their intentions to pay a certain sum of money for a specific sex act."

Seems best to just say "Yes, I want to have a good time. Let's go" and don't talk about money. It is not illegal to pick up some one for unpaid sex, so what could they arrest you for? I doubt she would go with you if she is a cop, but it would presumably be entrapment if she brought up money, so she would probably just refuse to go with you.

Sorry for the newbie question but what is a Prive?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2909966]Well, you can still talk to your buds about these unicorn $10 pussies, but you won't find them in real life. Granted it's been years since I last ventured into those paradisiacal urine-stench alleys of VM, but even then a 30-minute session would set you back $16-20, and I doubt it's gotten cheaper since then.

Trash venues are only cheap up to a point. If you're OK with a 30-minute humping in despicable conditions, sure you can save loads of money. But if you want to take your sweet time, that's going to start costing more very quickly, and if you're -- god forbid -- not inclined to have sex in the same sweat- and jizz-soaked sheets used by generations of johns and hookers before you, then we're looking into the same 200-300 reals territory of a relatively decent prive. So what's the point again?

Of course, if you're in Rio for weeks or months, then sure, go to trash prives and collect numbers. But it's still going to cost you way more than $10. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother unless out of curiosity.[/QUOTE]

When you get into town. Calibrate your dick to CPF of 75 r (two fucks in a 1 hour session for 150 r) at a centro prive with a few top rated girls from the local board. Then, if later, you decide to negotiate up from there, at least you are adjusting off of local best pricing.

[URL]https://gparena.net/tds-areas.php?a=2[/URL]

And use the same site for picking termas.

Personally, I like rua conceciao 116, the formerly secret terma. For the price of entrada at 4 x4 you can do 30 minutes with a girl. Yes, it is dark, dingy, smoke filled, but it is safe -- most of the clientele are navy enlisted poor (by our western standards) guys from the local navy base. But many of the girls are hot af, and some are from 4 x4, sick of pretending to like speaking english with passport bros who are overpaying, kkk.

[QUOTE=BallsDeep1980;2910150]Which termas and which prives? I have only been to centaurus, Solarium, and Marrakesh. I've also been to Eden Spa a few times and have met a few girls on seeking. I liked Centaraus the most, and the girls from seeking werent too bad. The cheapest was Eden Spa and the place is pretty much trash imo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2910293]I totally agree, for me anyway.

Other avenues to relax and clear the mind besides mongering, most especially when being somewhere for a lengthy period.[/QUOTE]Train bjj or krav maga.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2910267]So is it better to target ...[/QUOTE]I did not mean that. I am suggesting a time that there are still a lot of people so you can stay outside to find the place. Staring is a tactic at MC to get man to pick a girl quickly.

[QUOTE=Filho;2910117]A question to the experienced Rio guys here: what do you do on a Sunday, when all the Termas are closed, the Prives too and none of you numbers are working? What is you suggestion for a good day time / early evening session?[/QUOTE]This is a good day to call a girl on one of the escort sites. If it's too early they may be at the beach or sleeping. But sometimes if they're on the beach they'll still come.

I train nude capoeira with Russian exchange students.

Professor Gabriel inacio Garcia Marquez drove his Spanish Catholic priests cock into the ass of a Russian Slavic orthodox exchange Student. Seka took it like a champ, a champion gymnast, a linguist trained to be a good grandchild of Lenin, a young Leninist. Padre Amado paid her to teach him Russian, but he wrote erotic poems and love letters, translated them into Russian and yearned to trade up from his negra and mulatta regulars to a Russian, one Russian to rule them all, to pick loira students and French and German and swedish exchange students to eat her hot little Russian snatch.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2910363]Train bjj or krav maga.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Filho;2910116]I agree what is written about 4 x4. 80% or even 90% of the girls there I would also not consider worth fucking. But I have never had a disappointing visit there. You just have to be patient. Eventually, a good girl will show up. I have not been often to Solarium. My opinion is, that they might have more good looking girls but they also have a bigger attitude. As I like to fuck perfectly shaped asses and do all kinds of dirty things with girls, this does not mix well. Monte Carlo is overpriced in my mind. The best experiences I must say I had in Lomos But that is years ago sadly.

Best is to collect a solid amount of numbers from Mabs or other places, then you always can call them should you not be up for a terma. I have found real gems there. But also here: 80-90% is not what I find attractive. But I agree, it all comes down to taste.[/QUOTE]Yeah, one person's meat is another one's poison, as the adage goes. While there're too many "thick" girls at 4 x4 that I don't like, I'd say roughly 50% of the talent on any given visit were consistently fuckable to me.

Just another proof how pointless all this talk about eights and nines.

This is far too white elitist legalistic for a Rio de janeiro group.

We come to Rio because we don't want to get this involved.

You at home in pussy prison jimmy boy?

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2910363]Train bjj or krav maga.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2910338]From [URL]https://www.feldmanroyle.com/sex-crimes/prostitution/[/URL].

"Do Undercover Cops Have To Tell You?

It is a common misconception that undercover cops have to tell you that they are police, if asked directly. However, under US law, police officers are permitted to lie and mislead suspects. Therefore, if you hope to differentiate an undercover cop from a prostitute, simply asking will not work.

How To Tell If Its A Prostitution Sting.

The bottom line is that there is no definitive way to tell if it's a prostitution sting. That said, undercover law enforcement will normally get straight to negotiations as they should not engage in any sex acts. Commonly, undercover cops will work quickly to encourage a suspect to state clearly their intentions to pay a certain sum of money for a specific sex act."

Seems best to just say "Yes, I want to have a good time. Let's go" and don't talk about money. It is not illegal to pick up some one for unpaid sex, so what could they arrest you for? I doubt she would go with you if she is a cop, but it would presumably be entrapment if she brought up money, so she would probably just refuse to go with you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BallsDeep1980;2910150]Which termas and which prives? I have only been to centaurus, Solarium, and Marrakesh. I've also been to Eden Spa a few times and have met a few girls on seeking. I liked Centaraus the most, and the girls from seeking werent too bad. The cheapest was Eden Spa and the place is pretty much trash imo.[/QUOTE]A hoarhouse is a hoarhouse. The differences between prives, terapias, boates and termas are vague and totally non-scientific.

I seriously don't see a difference between terapias and prives (AKA clinicas in Sao Paulo). The only distinction I see is that terapias pretend to be a massage place. Prives normally scrap the pretense, although massage is available if you ask for it.

A terma to me is a place where you can put on a robe and relax at a lounge before taking a girl to a room (or not). Termas are normally more expensive than other venues.

That said, GParena lists some establishments in the Terma section that I would never consider a terma, but I presume Brazilians must know better.

Termas are closer to boates as in both have lounges with a party atmosphere where drinks are served. Prives and terapias are more down to earth: pick your girl and go to your room now.

Which takes us to Eden Spa. Eden is not trash. Any place with separate rooms (with full height walls) and clean sheets is definitely not trash.

There is one secret big room at Eden, like a suite, for the same price, but I don't remember the number. Just ask "o quarta grande esta disponivel?" If yes, they'll give it to you.

Eden (200 per hour) and other prives in the same building are quite a bargain for Copa, by the way.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2910301]It's OK bud. Couple of you misunderstood.

I didn't write that on behalf of you the client being safe from that. The hooker will ask you when you call if you're a cop. Undercover cops don't have to answer and if they lied charges on that sex worker will be dropped on the basis of entrapment. Laws maybe diff in FL vs other states.[/QUOTE]It is still not true. Post the law that says this. That is Hollywood stuff, not legal stuff. Entrapment is encouraging someone to commit a crime and has nothing to do with not admitting one is a law enforcement officer.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2910338]......Seems best to just say "Yes, I want to have a good time. Let's go" and don't talk about money. It is not illegal to pick up some one for unpaid sex, so what could they arrest you for? I doubt she would go with you if she is a cop, but it would presumably be entrapment if she brought up money, so she would probably just refuse to go with you.[/QUOTE]I navigated that maze for many years during the 80's and 90's. With experience you can smell an undercover cop.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2910101]......If you're going to be here for a period longer than a few weeks, and you should, then it is impertative to tie into non mongering groups like sports or education. The mongering life by itself is toxic, like pure alcohol, which will poison you if taken unadulterated.[/QUOTE]Mongering by its very nature is self regulating. No one can fuck for 16 hours straight every day. One has to surface for a breath. In my early mongering days when I'd do 3 chicks a day I found the breaks to go to restaurants for meals, short walks or computer activity sufficient to maintain a healthy mental state.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2910454]It is still not true. Post the law that says this. That is Hollywood stuff, not legal stuff. Entrapment is encouraging someone to commit a crime and has nothing to do with not admitting one is a law enforcement officer.[/QUOTE]It's not entrapment if one already has a "criminal disposition". If you're already predisposed to committing the crime, then the fact that someone comes along and encourages you to do so doesn't = entrapment. Look it up. You weren't innocent. You had every intention to try to buy some ass! And the fact that an undercover cop encouraged you to do so changes nothing in your defense. So, did the defendant have a criminal disposition or not? That's a matter to be determined by the trier of the facts. But the bottom line? You're not off the hook just because an "undercover tute" lied to you or "tricked" you. If you had a criminal disposition to commit the act in question in the first place, well then that's not entrapment, and you're fucked in a way you weren't looking for. And that my friend is the law in the United States. I don't know about anywhere else.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2910454]It is still not true. Post the law that says this. That is Hollywood stuff, not legal stuff. Entrapment is encouraging someone to commit a crime and has nothing to do with not admitting one is a law enforcement officer.[/QUOTE]Feel free to do your own research. I make my points like everyone, was a side notes as to why people travel out of US / CA. Due to complex laws and not bc of costs. You wants facts cause you don't believed I lived 30+ yrs in FL then start Googling urself. Your famous for heavy debates LOL. Aint doingbthat with you bro. Even if I'm wrong. Idgaf bruh. Sue me.

[QUOTE=Filho;2910116]I agree what is written about 4 x4. 80% or even 90% of the girls there I would also not consider worth fucking. But I have never had a disappointing visit there.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I do not go to a restaurant to worry about the 90% of the dishes on the menu that I do not want to eat. I go for the 10% that I would like to eat. People act like every chick in the place is supposed to suit their personal taste or they plan on fucking 5 of them in the 2 hours they are there. Go find the girl or two that suit you and have fun.

I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.

Stormy Daniels making a citizen's arrest as a informant.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2910500]It's not entrapment if one already has a "criminal disposition". If you're already predisposed to committing the crime, then the fact that someone comes along and encourages you to do so doesn't = entrapment. Look it up. You weren't innocent. You had every intention to try to buy some ass! And the fact that an undercover cop encouraged you to do so changes nothing in your defense. So, did the defendant have a criminal disposition or not? That's a matter to be determined by the trier of the facts. But the bottom line? You're not off the hook just because an "undercover tute" lied to you or "tricked" you. If you had a criminal disposition to commit the act in question in the first place, well then that's not entrapment, and you're fucked in a way you weren't looking for. And that my friend is the law in the United States. I don't know about anywhere else.[/QUOTE]

Read for reference.

Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent [URL]https://a.co/d/8zctzOO[/URL].

[QUOTE=TheCane;2910500]It's not entrapment if one already has a "criminal disposition". If you're already predisposed to committing the crime, then the fact that someone comes along and encourages you to do so doesn't = entrapment. Look it up. You weren't innocent. You had every intention to try to buy some ass! And the fact that an undercover cop encouraged you to do so changes nothing in your defense. So, did the defendant have a criminal disposition or not? That's a matter to be determined by the trier of the facts. But the bottom line? You're not off the hook just because an "undercover tute" lied to you or "tricked" you. If you had a criminal disposition to commit the act in question in the first place, well then that's not entrapment, and you're fucked in a way you weren't looking for. And that my friend is the law in the United States. I don't know about anywhere else.[/QUOTE]

Traveling to Rio next week with a buddy for the first time. Trying to gather as much information as possible to make this a great trip. I've been traveling to Colombia over the last few years so it's time to switch it up. Any suggestions on hire to meet the girls? I always use Tinder in Colombia.

Anyone have any idea if 4 x4 would be open today? Or Mosaico or VM? Most normal stores and restaurants seem to be closed today. I'm wondering if because its a holiday 4 x4 and VM might be open for guys to destress.

When are you arrivinpg?

I can link up at the starbucks at cinelandia for a centro prive tour.

Upgrade to PM so you can send me a PM to coordinate.

[QUOTE=TravelingGeno;2910551]Traveling to Rio next week with a buddy for the first time. Trying to gather as much information as possible to make this a great trip. I've been traveling to Colombia over the last few years so it's time to switch it up. Any suggestions on hire to meet the girls? I always use Tinder in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2910334]...

DR and Thailand are the best places for 60+ mongers since those women don't have an issue to have a real relationship with you, like living together. Much harder to find that in Col or Bra since they're more sophisticated with arrogance and pride. You'll be taking care of the entire families in places where you find it but could be a fair exchange.

....[/QUOTE]I'm over 60 and if I stop living in Thailand it will be because hot girls here increasingly want only young guys, preferably Asian.

I now get rejected, often in rude fashion, by 80% of hot young girls in TH. These girls don't want me for short time in spite of my overpaying, much less to have a "real relationship" or be "living" with me.

My rejection rate in Brazil (for short time) is near zero.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2910423]This is far too white elitist legalistic for a Rio de janeiro group.

We come to Rio because we don't want to get this involved.

You at home in pussy prison jimmy boy?[/QUOTE]Yes. Flying to Thailand on Thursday.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2910523]I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.[/QUOTE]Looks like Blue House a strip club. How does P4 p work there -- are they all freelancers you take back to your hotel?

[QUOTE=XXL;2910628]I'm over 60 and if I stop living in Thailand it will be because hot girls here increasingly want only young guys, preferably Asian.

I now get rejected, often in rude fashion, by 80% of hot young girls in TH. These girls don't want me for short time in spite of my overpaying, much less to have a "real relationship" or be "living" with me.

My rejection rate in Brazil (for short time) is near zero.[/QUOTE]Many farang, young or old, get rejected in Thailand because of the big dick factor and the girl does not want to work hard. If she's hot she can get tiny guys who finish in 3 minutes.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2910698]Looks like Blue House a strip club. How does P4 p work there -- are they all freelancers you take back to your hotel?[/QUOTE]Oh it's a full blown Hohouse my dude. There is a small stage where two pros did a dance show but the majority of the time are women coming and to present themselves to you and making offers, dudes drinking, and a pool table. Pretty relaxed env and drinks are cheap too. They have rooms. The girl I took offered to go back to my apt for the same 250 r for the rest of the night when it was 2 a but used their room instead. Bra in general seem to be great for all night offers, and shows based on many reports here.

For ex this past Sat my favorite from Paris cafe offered me on WhatsApp to come spend the night for 500 r, heck yeah I took it. Took her to dinner first, mult rounds. I may have barebacked 😆. If the girl like you, you're in. You will know in the club bc she will french kiss you like a boyfriend while sitting and drinking w you. For that alone it's worth $$$ with the right girl. You don't find this shit in Col LOL. Fucking intense.

XXL: sorry to hear about your experience in TH, I guess things have changed and I hope the rest of SE Asia is better in that area for older gents.

I still have have a long way to go but once I entered p4 p near 30 I already started thinking how things will be at 60/70. Observing and learning. It's prob why most of my xpat buddies when in Dr and Col are like 65+, and a very cool buddy is 82 in mde. We meet in coffee shops to chat and they stay for hrs since they're all retired while I'd have to run after an hour LOL. Many are married with younger women so there's still hope.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2910523]I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.[/QUOTE]Great info. Thanks! I love any intell on Bundas!

It is a boate / terma like mosaico.

Indeed, the talent like bruna who showed up in a passport bro yt vid is same as mosaico.

Man bruna is hot af.

Totally dominated me.

She demanded it be covered, demanded 500 payment upfront, demanded even more than 500 pernoite.

Still I drilled her morena kunt 3 times.

The last time, she was upselling me like, oh baby, pernoite is like 800.

So I kicked her out of transamerica.

Those were the best days of covid.

That blessed time of cholera has passed.

Now, we vagabundos hope for a new covid, a nuclear war, a biological and chemical attack on New York or at least galveston.

Then, pricing will swing to favor we few, we happy few, we old, ugly, fat, rich swiss bastards waiting for the kunts to spread their legs and make lost in translation whiskey commercials with us again.

And oh yeah, they search you for weapons at bh, like pat you down with metal detectors.

Which is why I recommend carrying a back up knife in your trail running shorts / underwear from decathlon, something like an invictus folder easily obtained here in rio.

I am a walking red flag.

For some reason at blue house, the girls are afraid of me.

Performance the one time I fucked there when I went with a gracie bjj biuddy ws so so, but that was again, because my pronunciation is amusing and not in a good way.

I would say things like garanta profunda.

And she would look at my 17 centimeter eurasian dick and think of her preto with a 25 cm bbc and kind of laugh at me. Lets face it, vagabundo, it's because you are not really a bro, you just love the sisters, which is a side of reverse discrimination by sisters against asian and white men that really should be discussed more. We need a side group for that. It would be hilarious because we rich eurasians can pay for all that hot chocolate bunda, even if the sisters really need their chocolate brothers to dick them down.

Vagabundo was reminded of this at the federal university student fraternity today when two white girls, lets call them tiffany mynx and christy canyon were talking up two brothers, smoking some ganja with them maybe. Vagabundo was smokig ganja with a big titted social justice pricess, not smoking hot, but young, no kids, smart, and into me. So peace, love, amizade, and general goodwill was wafting around the campus. Vagabundo has convinced a librarian to keep his computers so that he can work there, to read jorge amado, and to make great netflix eventually, and youtube webseries in the traditiion of fim by fernanda torres.

Anyway, with time, my 17 centimeter eurasian bratwurst would certainly get the unadulterated submission that it commands in centro from the capoeira dancing negras and loiras and mulattas at the lower tier prives, actually, the upper tier prives, which is the sweet spot. Upper tier prives in rio and sp are the sweetest thing. It is better to love than to hate, and I love fucking hot women.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2910732]Oh it's a full blown Hohouse my dude. There is a small stage where two pros did a dance show but the majority of the time are women coming and to present themselves to you and making offers, dudes drinking, and a pool table. Pretty relaxed env and drinks are cheap too. They have rooms. The girl I took offered to go back to my apt for the same 250 r for the rest of the night when it was 2 a but used their room instead. Bra in general seem to be great for all night offers, and shows based on many reports here.

For ex this past Sat my favorite from Paris cafe offered me on WhatsApp to come spend the night for 500 r, heck yeah I took it. Took her to dinner first, mult rounds. I may have barebacked 😆. If the girl like you, you're in. You will know in the club bc she will french kiss you like a boyfriend while sitting and drinking w you. For that alone it's worth $$$ with the right girl. You don't find this shit in Col LOL. Fucking intense.

XXL: sorry to hear about your experience in TH, I guess things have changed and I hope the rest of SE Asia is better in that area for older gents.

I still have have a long way to go but once I entered p4 p near 30 I already started thinking how things will be at 60/70. Observing and learning. It's prob why most of my xpat buddies when in Dr and Col are like 65+, and a very cool buddy is 82 in mde. We meet in coffee shops to chat and they stay for hrs since they're all retired while I'd have to run after an hour LOL. Many are married with younger women so there's still hope.[/QUOTE]

Guys, what Terma would you say has the best looking girls? Went to 4 x4 the other day and fucked a hot Minera again, natural body and tits, which is nice, very slutty sexy face aa bit like Foxy Brown if you remember that rap star from the 90 ties Name Thaissa.

But overall, wasnt so impressed by the quality. Lots of short legged, saggy ass girls.

So looking for other options. Maybe Solarium?

Next Thursday May 2nd. I'll sign up.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2910604]When are you arrivinpg?

I can link up at the starbucks at cinelandia for a centro prive tour.

Upgrade to PM so you can send me a PM to coordinate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Filho;2910921]Guys, what Terma would you say has the best looking girls? Went to 4 x4 the other day and fucked a hot Minera again, natural body and tits, which is nice, very slutty sexy face aa bit like Foxy Brown if you remember that rap star from the 90 ties Name Thaissa.

But overall, wasnt so impressed by the quality. Lots of short legged, saggy ass girls.

So looking for other options. Maybe Solarium?[/QUOTE]I never understood why Cedntaraus gets no love, my only trip there was amazing, great service, girl was super hot and friendly with an ass to die for. Everyone is always talking about 4 X4 all the time and frankly I have no clue why.

Solarium was pretty good too. Marrakesh wasnt that great but I was super drunk.

Hey guys I get so much great info from all the members and will be returning to rio. Honestly I have to go through the forum to update because I haven't been back in a year. But is there a website escort service with economical prices? Also is bara tejuca still open and is there something comparable that someone can recommend? I liked that place its in a residential community and away from centro drag. Thanks!

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2910523]I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.[/QUOTE]I will be in Rio in two weeks. I am pretty familiar with the main spots in Copa and Centro and really want to try some new spots like the ones you mention here. Is there a list of top places Vagabundo1 recommends in this thread?

Is there some short term hotels in copacabana or impanema? Thanks.

Writing this on the way back from the airport in my home country. Was in Rio for 4 days just now (not my first trip), thanks for all of the great suggestions.

Usual 4 x4 during the week. Wasn't that busy so got to enjoy some time with the girls this time around before heading to a room.

No takeout this time from 4 x4 (I have paid the exit fee on previous trips. Usually as I like to go early and I sleep early I don't want to wait for girls to finish at 2 am kkkkkk).

Instead been on SA / seeking. Quality has gone up it used to be very poor.

I saw 2 girls, one 3 x and the other only once.

Girl 1 - 19 yo very slightly on the thicker side which is not my usual preference (I like spinners).

We had chatted for 2 weeks, every few days, & there was tension (at least on my side kkkkk) before we met.

We met at a fancy rodizio place opposite my hotel (cost over 600 for 2 including 2 drinks which is a small fortune for Rio but it is one of the best. Churrascia palace).

She spoke good English and was flirty over dinner. She came and sat on my side of the table etc.

We hadn't actually discussed money until we met in person. She said her former SD from the site would give her 2 k BRL per meet. I know this is a lot for Rio but I was fine with it and the chemistry was good.

So we walked into the room and spent roughly 3 hours together. She told me upfront that she doesn't like to stay overnight the first time she meets someone. I said that's fine.

The next 2 days she had classes during the day and she just came straight to my hotel for the evening. I didn't actually want her to stay the night so gave her 2 k each time again for c3 hours or so + I booked her uber each way which was not much as she was not coming from very far.

Very submissive and caring in the hotel room which is what I like. The deed was protected but owo was fine. Lots of kissing etc which was nice.

Was planning to spend all of Saturday with her as well but she tells me last minute that she has a family event so logged straight back into SA and found a gem (lorie I think was the username) who had just joined it the same day she told me. Spoke to her at maybe 1 am and we moved to whatsapl and agreed to meet Saturday lunchtime. Lorie was 23 and a student in Rio (studying history).

She was upfront and told me she has done this stuff before but that I got lucky as she just joined again after a very long time.

We met in the same rodizio restaurant (I paid her uber both ways which was expensive she lives really far in the suburbs. Uber cost c100 each way which is a crazy amount for Rio but that was the actual price). I waited for some time at the restaurant for her but knew she had a reason to be delayed as I followed her uber journey eagerly. As soon as she came in my jaw dropped she was stunning. All natural, slim & with long brunette hair.

She came in with a smile and we chatted away for what seemed like hours but probably only 1 hour. Now we had agreed 3 k (don't get mad here was a last minute SA search and desperate before heading home). We went to a different / cheaper hotel than last time which I had booked specifically for meeting lorie (late night flight).

A bit awkward having to check her in as well but probably fine.

Her ID showed her stated age of 23 - she looked younger I would say.

We stayed together in the room for maybe 4 to 5 hours. We went at it 3 times but also chatted a lot. She has travelled to many countries which I've also been to and speaks nearly perfect English. Really felt like a GFE which I guess is what I was after. She has a passport and told me she can travel so I am thinking of flying her to Europe. She told me economy ticket would be fine for that as I (only somewhat jokingly) asked if she needs a business class flight.

In bed truly a GFE. Very submissive. Fair boundaries on no BBFS which I did ask about and no backdoor action as well. Very keen to see her again.

Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.

[QUOTE=Gandi718;2911392]Is there some short term hotels in copacabana or impanema? Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

A simple search of this tread can unearth useful comments about specific properties.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911540]
She came in with a smile and we chatted away for what seemed like hours but probably only 1 hour. Now we had agreed 3 k (don't get mad here was a last minute SA search and desperate before heading home). We went to a different / cheaper hotel than last time which I had booked specifically for meeting lorie (late night flight).
[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report.

No one's going to be mad at you. I don't think many folks here are using Seeking. At least, in Brazil.

Now, if you walked into 4 x4 and offered them that kind of dough, then yeah, you'd get loads after loads of tough love, LOL.

But Seeking is a very isolated platform. If it works for you and makes you happy, it's your money after all. Glad you had fun.

I have a 5 hour layover in GRU on my way to Rio. Anyone have any suggestions?

Which school did these girls go to?

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911540]Writing this on the way back from the airport in my home country. Was in Rio for 4 days just now (not my first trip), thanks for all of the great suggestions.

Usual 4 x4 during the week. Wasn't that busy so got to enjoy some time with the girls this time around before heading to a room.

No takeout this time from 4 x4 (I have paid the exit fee on previous trips. Usually as I like to go early and I sleep early I don't want to wait for girls to finish at 2 am kkkkkk).

Instead been on SA / seeking. Quality has gone up it used to be very poor.

I saw 2 girls, one 3 x and the other only once.

Girl 1 - 19 yo very slightly on the thicker side which is not my usual preference (I like spinners).

We had chatted for 2 weeks, every few days, & there was tension (at least on my side kkkkk) before we met.

We met at a fancy rodizio place opposite my hotel (cost over 600 for 2 including 2 drinks which is a small fortune for Rio but it is one of the best. Churrascia palace).

She spoke good English and was flirty over dinner. She came and sat on my side of the table etc.

We hadn't actually discussed money until we met in person. She said her former SD from the site would give her 2 k BRL per meet. I know this is a lot for Rio but I was fine with it and the chemistry was good.

So we walked into the room and spent roughly 3 hours together. She told me upfront that she doesn't like to stay overnight the first time she meets someone. I said that's fine.

The next 2 days she had classes during the day and she just came straight to my hotel for the evening. I didn't actually want her to stay the night so gave her 2 k each time again for c3 hours or so + I booked her uber each way which was not much as she was not coming from very far.

Very submissive and caring in the hotel room which is what I like. The deed was protected but owo was fine. Lots of kissing etc which was nice.

Was planning to spend all of Saturday with her as well but she tells me last minute that she has a family event so logged straight back into SA and found a gem (lorie I think was the username) who had just joined it the same day she told me. Spoke to her at maybe 1 am and we moved to whatsapl and agreed to meet Saturday lunchtime. Lorie was 23 and a student in Rio (studying history).

She was upfront and told me she has done this stuff before but that I got lucky as she just joined again after a very long time.

We met in the same rodizio restaurant (I paid her uber both ways which was expensive she lives really far in the suburbs. Uber cost c100 each way which is a crazy amount for Rio but that was the actual price). I waited for some time at the restaurant for her but knew she had a reason to be delayed as I followed her uber journey eagerly. As soon as she came in my jaw dropped she was stunning. All natural, slim & with long brunette hair.

She came in with a smile and we chatted away for what seemed like hours but probably only 1 hour. Now we had agreed 3 k (don't get mad here was a last minute SA search and desperate before heading home). We went to a different / cheaper hotel than last time which I had booked specifically for meeting lorie (late night flight).

A bit awkward having to check her in as well but probably fine.

Her ID showed her stated age of 23 - she looked younger I would say.

We stayed together in the room for maybe 4 to 5 hours. We went at it 3 times but also chatted a lot. She has travelled to many countries which I've also been to and speaks nearly perfect English. Really felt like a GFE which I guess is what I was after. She has a passport and told me she can travel so I am thinking of flying her to Europe. She told me economy ticket would be fine for that as I (only somewhat jokingly) asked if she needs a business class flight.

In bed truly a GFE. Very submissive. Fair boundaries on no BBFS which I did ask about and no backdoor action as well. Very keen to see her again.

Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2910604]When are you arrivinpg?

I can link up at the starbucks at cinelandia for a centro prive tour.

Upgrade to PM so you can send me a PM to coordinate.[/QUOTE]My Airbnb apartment was a convenient three-block walk to the Starbucks in Cinelandia. The place is fking busy mid-morning. I stopped by a good coffee shop in the same building as Duda Massage Rio Branco 156. I go to the banco24 ATM inside the metro. Joining the ATM with a long ass line. Withdrawal cash, each time, no problems, during daytime.

Afterward walk over to the underground stores to buy medium-sized bottles of whiskey, cognac, Hennessy, sugar-free Red Bulls, 2 packs of baby wipes, and plastic cups. BTW I keep the iphone on a leash around my neck, and stick it inside the shirt.

Exit metro head to the security booths in the Branco 156 office building. Up the elevators to the top floor, then another stupid elevator. Find Duda massage. She rings me in before I have a chance to open the door. For the next four to six hours 11-5 pm, going through the entire prive afternoon lineup. Getting slurpy sloppy deepthroat from two nineteen-year-old garotas. An hour or two-hour duplo sessions, CIM w / swallow from Branca and Lightskin mulutta cuties posted on wassap.

Damn totally forgot brasiliana garotas will swallow the entire load, and use their tongues to sop up spillage she missed. Pay a small tip. Then bounce to the next prive in the same building.

The latest I stayed in centro was 7. 30 pm to get a haircut at the barbershop directly across the street across from Darkroom Praa Olavo Bilac 28. Walk back to Airbnb, keeping head on swivel. Change shower, head out to Solarium and Monte Carlos termas to hook up with Scandallo Garotas working there. Each night at closing leave with two garotas, uber or indriver to the short time motel panda motel in Botofoga.

YMMV.

Well played young Jedi.

The force is strong in this one.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2911625]My Airbnb apartment was a convenient three-block walk to the Starbucks in Cinelandia. The place is fking busy mid-morning. I stopped by a good coffee shop in the same building as Duda Massage Rio Branco 156. I go to the banco24 ATM inside the metro. Joining the ATM with a long ass line. Withdrawal cash, each time, no problems, during daytime.

Afterward walk over to the underground stores to buy medium-sized bottles of whiskey, cognac, Hennessy, sugar-free Red Bulls, 2 packs of baby wipes, and plastic cups. BTW I keep the iphone on a leash around my neck, and stick it inside the shirt.

Exit metro head to the security booths in the Branco 156 office building. Up the elevators to the top floor, then another stupid elevator. Find Duda massage. She rings me in before I have a chance to open the door. For the next four to six hours 11-5 pm, going through the entire prive afternoon lineup. Getting slurpy sloppy deepthroat from two nineteen-year-old garotas. An hour or two-hour duplo sessions, CIM w / swallow from Branca and Lightskin mulutta cuties posted on wassap.

Damn totally forgot brasiliana garotas will swallow the entire load, and use their tongues to sop up spillage she missed. Pay a small tip. Then bounce to the next prive in the same building.

The latest I stayed in centro was 7. 30 pm to get a haircut at the barbershop directly across the street across from Darkroom Praa Olavo Bilac 28. Walk back to Airbnb, keeping head on swivel. Change shower, head out to Solarium and Monte Carlos termas to hook up with Scandallo Garotas working there. Each night at closing leave with two garotas, uber or indriver to the short time motel panda motel in Botofoga.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2911600]Which school did these girls go to?[/QUOTE]One was a proper university based in novo iguacu. The 19 year old didn't go to a proper university I didn't fully understand what classes she had.

[QUOTE=HKS11;2911591]I have a 5 hour layover in GRU on my way to Rio. Anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Bring a good book. Because it is going to take 3 of those hours to get through immigration and customs.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2911600]Which school did these girls go to?[/QUOTE]GHA. Gringo Hustling Academy.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911540]Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you did not negotiate at all. It's to your advantage when they meet you in person without an agreed price. Why would they give you the advantage? Did you bring up the question about her rate first? I would respond to her the same way she did.

For me, the girl's availability is often reduced when they have more money. The first girl got 6 K from you and she became unavailable

Don't have time to write my experience, many girls are telling a story to manipulate men. Keep that in mind until verified.

I was thinking to fly to another city from Rio to check it out. I like the less traffic places something relaxing but has a good scene for mongering. Any suggestions?

Reading about mongers paying whatever the girls ask for, like 3000 reais. I don't care how others spend their money but it could be wise to remember some things. Not meant as complaints just as good advice. What the girls ask for and what they will accept are totally different. Many Brazilians earn a minimum wage which is 1412 reais, paying a girl 3000 reais is quite hefty. IMO overpaying excessively won't give you a better service, rather on the contrary. The girl might think that the guy is a clueless sucker and give him poor service. Even though paying a small fortune the girls didn't stay overnight, no BBFS and no anal.

Fair enough with girl 1 - probably could have negotiated down to 1.5 given we hadn't discussed rate in advance. Lorie I think was fair from her she said 3 k upfront (before coming to see me) and maybe I could have pushed down to 2.5 k but, as she told me in advance, I just went ahead with it. I've seen probably over 50 girls now from SA and I would say she is in my top 1 or 2 experiences. But yes I accept that is a lot for Rio. Depends what you want I guess. She gave me a proper GFE & was a super natural girl. Did not look like a working girl in any way which is what I like.

Next time for sure will be negotiating more. How much have you guys paid for top-tier SA girls?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2911724]It sounds like you did not negotiate at all. It's to your advantage when they meet you in person without an agreed price. Why would they give you the advantage? Did you bring up the question about her rate first? I would respond to her the same way she did.

For me, the girl's availability is often reduced when they have more money. The first girl got 6 K from you and she became unavailable

Don't have time to write my experience, many girls are telling a story to manipulate men. Keep that in mind until verified.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2911690]Bring a good book. Because it is going to take 3 of those hours to get through immigration and customs.[/QUOTE]The GRU airport is total tourist trap for trying to exit customs fast. The signs snake through the Duty-Free store. If you follow the signs and directions lost 10-15 minutes walking through the stupid duty-free store. All I want to do is get the heck out of GRU airport, hop in the Uber with the destination already set to Prime Moema for duplo session with Karen and Ariella.

Eventually, I learned when first entering the duty-free shop to take an immediate left, to the exit door. The immediate left, avoids going thru the duty-free gauntlet. The staff, if asked show you the long way out.

I don't check luggage so to avoid the lines exiting luggage claims, I go under the stanchions to the exit. There is sometimes another random? Customs luggage check if you are directed out of the line before the freedom to exit.

The other domestic airport SDU has one of the nicest views at the Uber Lounge. Very picturesque while waiting for the Uber to arrive. The SDU Uber lounge is a bit more organized, in my opinion. Plus free wifi and a bank of banco24 ATM upstairs in the Bossa Nova Mall.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2911756]Reading about mongers paying whatever the girls ask for, like 3000 reais. I don't care how others spend their money but it could be wise to remember some things. Not meant as complaints just as good advice. What the girls ask for and what they will accept are totally different. Many Brazilians earn a minimum wage which is 1412 reais, paying a girl 3000 reais is quite hefty. IMO overpaying excessively won't give you a better service, rather on the contrary. The girl might think that the guy is a clueless sucker and give him poor service. Even though paying a small fortune the girls didn't stay overnight, no BBFS and no anal.[/QUOTE]It's Seeking. Girls peddling their wares on Seeking are least concerned with the minimum wage. And guys on Seeking paying $90 a month couldn't care less about spending a few (hundreds) dollars more on a sexual encounter. It's a big GF fantasy, but you still get to fuck, LOL.

Sperto is right IMHO.

A good ISG wingman who uses seeking pays max 800 pernoite.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2911824]It's Seeking. Girls peddling their wares on Seeking are least concerned with the minimum wage. And guys on Seeking paying $90 a month couldn't care less about spending a few (hundreds) dollars more on a sexual encounter. It's a big GF fantasy, but you still get to fuck, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Please send me a pm.

Upgrade. It's worth it.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911672]One was a proper university based in novo iguacu. The 19 year old didn't go to a proper university I didn't fully understand what classes she had.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2911824]It's Seeking. Girls peddling their wares on Seeking are least concerned with the minimum wage. ...[/QUOTE]There is no qualification so any girl can be on it. You potentially can meet a girl who works at clinica or prive. Most of them don't make much money on their full time job if they have one. I have reported on some not long ago.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911764]Next time for sure will be negotiating more. How much have you guys paid for top-tier SA girls?[/QUOTE]What you paid based on my observation is getting to be the norm in Sao Paulo. Glad to know Rio is getting there. Hehe. I looked for something more sustainable for everyday use so I will not pay that price. I spent very little time in SP now. I dipped my toes in when I passed by. I think you can get lower price ones based on what were reported here but I guess it's getting to be more difficult especially if you are not here often.

In a nutshell, a girl that can make that kind of money doesn't have to work often. They could survive with only one date a month. Follow this theory, they don't have to come down in price. I appreciate your report.

Have you been to Scandallo?

Haha, totally true. Not to laugh at any fellow monger, but by contrast, these are American prices for college girls, and there is a premium for being with a actual college girl who you could talk English with preferably.

I am here with Monique, a 27 year old Negra, who I previously have been fucking in 2020-22, and it is 250 r pernoite BBFSCIP, and she is a player -- she will go with to the nude beach and come home with a white couple and swap, and she has a bunda that makes for good swinging as men do like to fuck her jiggly booty, including me. I went to Central and met her there, and took the 315 bus back for a total of 4. 3 reais each for passagem. I recommend over ear earphones. I recommend also as alwas a vasco shirt and a bombeiro cap, knives (though never take them out unless actual last resort), and a taser flashlight.

Off to a good pernoite, again.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2911692]GHA. Gringo Hustling Academy.[/QUOTE]

Is this why so many medellin passport bros have been showing up in rio?

[URL]https://youtu.be/mXThf0ufKj4?si=QgrrEC7CKLVOg-Z3[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2911873]There is no qualification so any girl can be on it. You potentially can meet a girl who works at clinica or prive. Most of them don't make much money on their full time job if they have one. I have reported on some not long ago.[/QUOTE]Don't women still have to pay for the service to get any kind of usability? I don't think many non-elite GDPs can or want to pay the fees, so I just presumed those who can would be the ones to command exorbitant prices. Might be wrong, though.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2911922]Don't women still have to pay for the service to get any kind of usability? I don't think many non-elite GDPs can or want to pay the fees, so I just presumed those who can would be the ones to command exorbitant prices. Might be wrong, though.[/QUOTE]Sugar daddy needs to pay to be able to view and send messages. Sugar baby can receive and send messages without paying. It's more like a competition and girls have the advantage so the higher price.

What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!

Yeah for that price you can pay the tuition of a muy thai negra for the nursing school on the bus to duque de caxis and have her swallow your loads and cum in her pussy for 3 years.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912098]What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912098]What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip![/QUOTE]Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912098]What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours?[/QUOTE]LOL. Me and my girlfriend were just in Jericoacoara and "Fortalazy" from Tuesday to Sunday. I did not spend that much money for the entire trip, including her plane ticket from Recife and the rental car. If a chick in Brazil told me to pay that much to fuck one time, I would think I was on one of those shows like Punk'd. It just can not be real. I can't help but to figure 15 years ago in the 1. 52 days 3,000 reais would have been US $2,000! 3000 reais is still 3000 reais though no matter how you convert it.

OK. I will be going to Rio soon, with 4 different cards. Capital one 360 master card, Schwab visa, Wise MC and revolut visa. If none of it work, I will ask my Brazilian friend to help me out. But I don't like asking people for help. From reading the link below, it seem Brazil don't want people to come to their country and spend money. The rest of the world love tourist.

[URL]https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1063282[/URL]

Any of you have any success using USA debit card at the ATM within the past 6 months?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912098]What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip![/QUOTE]3-6 K for 3 hours is ridiculous. I normally get girl from 4 x4 or other termas to spend 4 or 5 hours with me for 1 K. I never pay one Reai more than that. This time I'm in contact with an Onlyfans girl I found on Twitter, she want 2 K for 5 hours. I will go to Brazil next week, I'm still debating if I should agree to this or not. She do video chat for 10 reai per minute. I guess there are guy in the US who will pay for it. Hahhaha. What do you guy think?

If you want to see what these onlyfans or privacy girl will do or how they look go on simpcity. If they are popular, most likely you can find their leak video.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911540]
Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.[/QUOTE]Yeah like others are saying your wild and crazy bro and didn't just overpaid, you got robbed.

I met couple girls on SA, one wanted 600 r and spent several hours and went all the way; the other claimed she was a non pro and made it clear several times in writing didn't want money. Didn't bang her yet and she want a normal LT relationship, so we're just chatting. Many other offers were within 600-1000 r range which for short term 2-3 hrs but normally say ok when I counter at 500-600. I haven't met some of those yet since I only got 1 dick and they got to get in line LOL. Also I've met better looking girls in person or similar beauties in clubs / termas, etc where many also speak English / Spanish w better rates.

So here's my main take on using apps in Brazil so far. Pros and cons:

Pros: As a foreigner you'll be matched with many girls that speak English, Spanish. They're happy to connect with you just to practice their Eng and they're excited about it (nonpros). Everyone's experience may be diff as it depends on your pics, looks, age. Within a week I connected with more 50+ women on Bumble and Tinder alone, mostly non pros, and decided to only meet with the few that speak Eng or Spanish. That keeps me busy on cheesy dates since I like to smoke and drink, dance, do bullshit and just chill. Those are the good ones. SA here in Rio is 90% pros or SB with experience.

Cons: For Tinder or Bumble here in Rio, girls you match with will bounce or even you will lose interest if you cannot communicate in Portuguese outside of a very select few. Especially if the girl is a true nonpro and trying to find romance, they won't date you to converse solely via Google translate. And lots of time will be wasted if you're here short term or just few days. Not worth it.

For SA, being mainly pros, many many of them are scammers and that turned me away a bit. For ex one wouldn't tell me her exact town, claimed she lives in the country side about an HR away from Rio. We conversed a bit and we decided on meeting, we decided on no commitment, no pricing, and would only have dinner and decide later if there's a vibe. She then asked if ID pay her bus ticket, and that if it's late that evening to get a hotel for her or allow her to stay at my apt since doesn't travel late by bus. I said sure you'll be in the hands of a gentleman, no worries. She flirted and assured me that I'd love her and said likely we'll be doing "things".

Then she sent me a bus ticket of 211 r, as the amount to reimburse; I replied sure. Then I thought about it and asked again, hey, what's the name of your town again? You never told me!! Each time she'd change the topic, then I noticed also that the receipt doesn't contain a date, name, etc. I immediately said to her, dear, I would only pay and reimburse that ticket if it shows your name, a date, and trip info like to and from destination, I'm not stupid!! You are clearly trying to scam me, also I've been in rio for a min and I know a 1 hour bus ride costs like 5-10 r, and put a huge laughing face to mock LOL. I'm always a nice guy unless you make me an ahole.

She replied she didn't like that drama and said lets cancel. I replied oh yeah I already did. So it seems it's actually her thing, meeting dumb and stupid gringos all day, sex or not she'll profit an easy 200 r for doing nothing since likely live near copacabana area. Many others use fake pics obviously, and was contacted by many others that pretended that they're far away and want travel money. Yes SA has scammers everywhere, but I have used it in the US and few other countries especially Col, and the level of sharpness of the girls in Rio seem to be on a different level. They're smarter and smoother. Bottom line I used it for fun since already had a paid membership when arrived from Col, however there arent as many users as Col and also there are many venues / clubs here to meet quality women. Final verdict is using apps here is only good if your bored, working at home some days and want to chat while you're busy to kill time. It works also if you're rich, not too bright or shy in person and willing to pay 5 x the going rate.

I am stunned. 3 k reals per session. I paid 700 reals for per noite for a stunner from Emporio Banho. All holes included, sin condom and CIP. I felt I got the short end of the stick, because Vagabundo says he pays 400 reals for his per noite. I met a beauty at Perola Negra and she came over for 4 hours everything included was 500 reals. Whenever I travel anywhere nowadays, and met beautiful women, once I hear their prices, I immediately use Brazil as my measuring gauge. I will convert and think of how many stunners and wonderful session I can get in Rio. That makes me pause and rethink.

Still blown away thinking of how many top end escorts or sessions at Termas 3 k can get me. BTW you can tell you overpaid, if after 2 sessions, the girl cancelled on the third. Too each his own.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912135]OK. I will be going to Rio soon, with 4 different cards. Capital one 360 master card, Schwab visa, Wise MC and revolut visa. If none of it work, I will ask my Brazilian friend to help me out. But I don't like asking people for help. From reading the link below, it seem Brazil don't want people to come to their country and spend money. The rest of the world love tourist.

[URL]https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1063282[/URL]

Any of you have any success using USA debit card at the ATM within the past 6 months?[/QUOTE]You will be fine in Rio with the cards you have, and credit cards work well everywhere. I have been to only one remote city that the ATM don't take foreign card at all.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2912114]Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here![/QUOTE]No matter what part of the world you monger in, this isn't something girls do often pros or not. Most women won't talk about their previous experiences since they want to appear as a good inexperienced girl for you. That's a common and cheap sales tactic even telemarketers and scammers use; telling you so and so paid this and that. Same when a btch is telling me her ex did this or that then the imm reply is go back to that mofo. Why you left if he was so good? It's a nasty and disgusting trick and why would any man fall for that? Simpin at a new level.

Spot on!

Now, end of month (April), I tell my girls I am out of money (which is true in my checking account, tho not brokerage), and get pernoite bbfscip 250 r, and put them on the same city bus that I ride in and out with them to and fro, which shuts them up about the uber and saves me the uber and the time to go get change to pay the uber, actually 99, so I guess panda boy has my data too.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2912191]I am stunned. 3 k reals per session. I paid 700 reals for per noite for a stunner from Emporio Banho. All holes included, sin condom and CIP. I felt I got the short end of the stick, because Vagabundo says he pays 400 reals for his per noite. I met a beauty at Perola Negra and she came over for 4 hours everything included was 500 reals. Whenever I travel anywhere nowadays, and met beautiful women, once I hear their prices, I immediately use Brazil as my measuring gauge. I will convert and think of how many stunners and wonderful session I can get in Rio. That makes me pause and rethink.

Still blown away thinking of how many top end escorts or sessions at Termas 3 k can get me. BTW you can tell you overpaid, if after 2 sessions, the girl cancelled on the third. Too each his own.[/QUOTE]

As a comparison, see.

[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira[/URL]

Yasmin mineira.

Ok, she is hot af.

But by hoar years (dog years) she is old.

And she will ask 1500 are.

I fuk ed her for 150 in motel malaga and in a airbnb in botafogo in 2015 when she was 18 (do the dog year math).

You can find plenty of mineiras (the hottest brazilians) in photoaccompanhantes and even vm (I have some pics), and do them bare for 150 at your place after doing a session in their spot.

But that takes some work, which means you need to come for minimum 2 weeks, better 2 months, and even better just don't leave rio and give power of attorney on your house in the rich world so you can sell it when you get addicted to bare teen carioca kunt like henry 'vagabundo' miller.

And while I am at it here is some great investment advice.

Buy recreio property.

Easy to see the metro out here in 10 years if not 2.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2912283]No matter what part of the world you monger in, this isn't something girls do often pros or not. Most women won't talk about their previous experiences since they want to appear as a good inexperienced girl for you. That's a common and cheap sales tactic even telemarketers and scammers use; telling you so and so paid this and that. Same when a btch is telling me her ex did this or that then the imm reply is go back to that mofo. Why you left if he was so good? It's a nasty and disgusting trick and why would any man fall for that? Simpin at a new level.[/QUOTE]

Paris Tuesday night.

Tacoma a ISGer and I went to Paris last night, which was anticlimatic as I had trained 60 minutes Muay Thai at a university where I was smoking ganja with hot ass college chicks and the workers, but I was all pumped up from 60 minutes at a high heart zone rate so I wanted to go grab some ass and some numbers.

The hottest ass in paris is a new one, jessica, big not horse big bunda, she would not give me her wassap and even claimed she did not have insta. How is that for a fckin heisman?! As I have alluded to, reverse racism is a thing, as she is mulatta and I profile as white though I am half asian, which is not exactly a minority, is it? Anyway, I am a victim of the hottest black women who enact reverse racism against me, haha. Perhaps she was justified in lying to me as I made my first impression with her with sunglasses on over a big black eye from a fall on a hike though everyone obviously thinks it is from being punched, which is plausible as I box 2 times a week with the muay thai team on campus. But I grabbed her ass. She would do a 40 minute session for 350 r. I don't give a fuk, as I was not going to session anyway, as was my wingman who has all the pussy he can handle from SA and repeats etc, as do I, and in any case talking to and chasing real college girls is more fun and exciting anyway, who needs apps, well there are the right wassap groups.

Ok, anyway, I do know melissa, who has been there at paris for 3 years, and I have pernoited with her and she gave a bad session to senor nounce a few months ago. I chatted to melissa about a threesome, but I know how that goes, all covered, and then there are two girls at your place and scandalo, lose your apartment, etc, so it was just a idea. I would go to praia macumba smoke some ganja and fuk on the beach with these hoars anytime, but I have hoars for that who perform well.

Anyway, the realest and best in some ways interactoin of the night was with the girl at the front desk, who is also hot af BTW. On the way in I say, I am a professioal, I am a go go boy like bruna surfistina dj, that gets a laugh. On the way out, I repeat the line, and she offers me a discount. My bill is 44 (30 entrada and 14 r for my diet coke). I give her a 50. And she gives me 10, a 4 reais discount. But she does it with a sexy smile which says, hey vagabundo, I want to have your gringo lips and tongue buried between my legs eating my burning pussy on command. To which I say, eu sou go go boy, eu tenho piroca 32 centimeters, grosso (I have a thick 12 inch dick). Normalmente, meninas me paga 500 reais por hora por voce vou fazer disconta. (normally women pay me 500 reais an hour to fuck them, but for you I will do a discount). She laughs and say, por mim 200 reais. (for me 200 reais, right? There is a cop, policia militar officer REDACTED sitting there with a 9 mm on his hip. I am playing a russian playlist (thanks miamiboy) on my gamer earbuds to learn russian for my real love a 22 year old russian exchange student who sits on my face while I play those songs every Tuesday and thursay in the muay thai room where I have a key. (see world according to garp).

So anyway, having gained 4 reais by my winning sense of humor, in front of her boss and a cop, I take out my earbuds because I might be offending some locals, and with my superb verbal judo, I go get the only new number of the night, I get the number of the cop, REDACTED!

How is that for smooth.

I go back to casa vagabundo, listen to russian music, like Miyagi I got love, play radio on music. [URL]youtube.com[/URL], and I play videos of my russian tutor sitting on my face which I shot Tuesday afternoon on the muay thai mats with her light pink pussy lips, and then her asshole, impaled on the bright pink usb dildo that a fellow ISG member brought me in January (17 usd on amazon), a 43 minute long video that is interrupted by her squirting all over my dji action 4 which fortunately has a scuba case.

The key to giving good head to a chick who can pick any dick in rio is to be her slave, and to use just the tongue.

And let her pick the porn.

Even if it is hardcore fem dom porn.

I mean, I don't care if she watches chicks with strapons fuck guys up the ass on the macbook as long as she lets me put my medium sized but thick dick up her ass to shoot a quick wad between writing her masters thesis at the library, which closes at 22 h, which is when I leave campus.

Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student. Invited to party with her etc as well. I also got scammed for 4. 5 k. I would accept this one was a pure scam as wasn't aware of the local market at this time & paid a US / Europe SA price. The second trip I visited some prives etc and paid sub-200 on occasion. I still mostly stuck with 4 x4 which was a lot more expensive. Especially for takeout. I would typically offer 1,000 BRL to girls on top of the takeout fee from 4 x4 - the girls explained they get c40% of the takeout fee from memory. Yes this is expensive but I'm only interested in meeting super-attractive / all-natural / english-speaking & I found more than 1 at 4 x4.

I guess this last trip the difference was this 2nd SA girl (Lorie) is probably the best out of the 150+ that I have seen worldwide. So is she overcharging for rio, probably yes. But seeing someone like her (all-natural / authentic university student / speaks near-fluent english / proper GFE / well-travelled & very intelligent & made this old-man feel very young again) I would pay 3 k to again. I have seen someone in Rio for 150 BRL. I would forget this experience within a week but remember probably the 3 k spent on SA Lorie for a very, very long time. Keen to fly her out etc. She told me upfront that she wouldn't meet for less than 3,000 because she had exams coming up. Maybe she would take a little less. I offered 2,000 and she just flat-out said no. Try her and see if she scammed me or sticks to her guns at that price, would be interested to know! My feeling here is that top-tier GFE experience SA will be able to charge such numbers as there will always be people willing to pay. Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. Hope I get proven wrong as it will make my next trip much cheaper! I am going to sort out bitcoin to upgrade so can discuss more via PM.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2912314]As a comparison, see.

[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira[/URL]


You can find plenty of mineiras (the hottest brazilians) in photoaccompanhantes and even vm (I have some pics), and do them bare for 150 at your place after doing a session in their spot.

Easy to see the metro out here in 10 years if not 2.[/QUOTE]Are the reviews linked to PA site real or do the girls write them? Sorting by photo verified is useful feature on site but it has mix of sexy and nasty looking garotas. Many of which my punter 6th sense tells me are scammers which I fucking hate. Not because I fall for that at this stage but they waste my valuable time sorting through.

And before anyone tells me to read threads on PA save it. I've fucking read the threads. PA seems to have mixed reviews.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2912338]Didn't realise would spark so much debate.

Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. [/QUOTE]As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying … It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.

Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2912537]As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.[/QUOTE]That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and [B]keep to yourself[/B] what you did with your money!

Great tips on travel but best part is pointing out there's no way you can get bored with the ladies of rio in just one month LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2898938]Where have you been and what do you like? A one-month stay gives you a lot of options.

1. Near Rio: Buzios, Ilha Grande for beaches, Petropolis and Parati for the colonial history.

2. SP.

3. Iguassu Falls: You must see this if you've never been.

4. Florianapolis and Santa Catarina for the beaches.

5. Salvador and the Northeast for food, history and beaches.

6. Manaus for the Amazon tours.

7. Lencois Marenhances (sp), for breathtaking landscapes, but it's not an easy destination.

However, if you're only interested in the hobby, I can't imagine that you (or anyone) won't find enough meninas in Rio to keep you occupied for a month.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2912338]Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student.[/QUOTE]Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

That's all bro. But do what you want.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2912537]As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.[/QUOTE]Glad to see our buddy has found someone to back him up. But bro you might be taking this shit too seriously. If you read from any country and cities here, you'll see that this topic brings the most heated debates. Honestly no one truly care and it's for fun, although many usually say it's ruining the game. I don't live anywhere permanently so personally I couldn't care any less.

That said, no need to team up or bring a Texan gang together or losing sleep over this LOL. In case that's the plan. Guys are going to do whatever they want anyway. In fact he should pay her 10 k USD next time, then I will find her and pay her 200 r / $40 USD and bareback her all night incl CIP. That is of course if Vagabundo1 don't find her first LOL.

When a wg gets a nice payday from a chomp, they then charge their favorite clients less or take their BF shopping that week. I can't even begin to tell you how many SA girls that still today I'm banging bareback for $50 USD, university students too ha ha. And charge others min 5 x that amt. Clearly others were making up for my low amts, few would claim that too and said I was lucky being in a BF zone. This also means secretly I should be grateful for those who overpay. Seriously!!

All crap talk aside, negotiating skills is important. I have my own games and tactics. One of them is I let them know I'm not here on vacation and in town a while, and can easily be a resource, prefer to go out as a friend, BF, not as a client. Nonpros and semipros love that when you establish the environment as a normal friendship. Especially for the prideful ones that do not like being seen as a wg.

We rarely discuss money, we discuss business, I've helped girls invest, showed them how to set up webcams for those who model, etc. Sometimes these cam models get taken advantage of by agencies, and have no clue how to set themselves up independently. I also help them practice Math and basic English while in doggy style taking a pounding. Say "Yes daddy" louder! Basically, be more useful than just a dick or ppm. The website is against ppm anyway and encourages actual relationships, mentorships. Even though most do ppm. You can do these things even on short trips and I have.

I've read many reports of fellas building these friendships days or weeks before they arrive in town. And with that this is no brag or some rare success story. Based on other reports many have done this, and this is how you get the BF / friend treatment and you're not just a SD ATM machine.

These comments / suggestions and replies are to help the entire community as a whole, especially new mongers. They're not just "beatings" or critics. Recently someone wrote about his experience in SE Asia that wasnt so great, and noted that wg discriminates based on age, another mentioned the big dick factor is a thing.

What I think on this is that if you let the girl "Defaults" to her price then those things may be in effect. Gringo (which varies in types) tax does exist; for age among other factors. This is why negotiation and relationship building matters. You'll beat the status quo and get a fair treatment if you apply some intelligence. It's not magic.

Agreed. Spot on.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912540]Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.[/QUOTE]

The premium on a university student.

I can see that, especially a international student who could potentially be a Baby Momma, with a education and the ability to earn a income and pass on tradition history, etc.

So Professor Vagabundo is at school today, and I get a Ï have a boyfriend from a girl who is tutoring me.

I still pay her $100 r to read me some music lyrics in her native tongue, which would look really good wrapped around my cock.

But on the uber out of the university, two things happen.

I text a italian university girl, like a hot af body building Italian girl. My inner Enzo Ferrari has like 12 cylinders churning as little Enzos find themselves flowing up my gonads to get in line.

Then some Brazilian student who does want to hug me and start calling me amor and beijos and all that texts and calls in the hour long 100 r ride back to Recreio.

But I don't feel that animal want to plough her brazilian big bunda the way I do my little Russian Seka doll.

But yesterday or the day before I fuck Monique, two times and night, once in the morning, BBFSCIP.

She is coming back over Saturday for the swing at Paris.

Well anyway, I can see the premium for a university girl. But then you have to look at the socioeconomic class -- Nova Iguacu will get you a university federal, what specialty exactly? Hmm.

Now there is a university in. ? . REDACTED heheh.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2912567]Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

That's all bro. But do what you want.[/QUOTE]

University student doesn't mean anything. You can find University student in the termas. She was very hot. After the room, I ask for her number and if she want to spend 5 hours with me. She say only on a few specific day because she have to go to the University. I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her. Every subsequent night she try and I push her away. BTW, these girl do talk to each other. A fuck another girl and she ask me to take her number and she want to meet me outside of the club.

Another girl in SP, at Casarão Augusta. I already fuck, we was walking out of the club, and saw this crazy hot girl walk in. I told my brazilian friend to get her phone number. Next day I texted her. She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.

See, when a girl do shit like that. She might be hot, but it turn me off. Its maybe illogical on my part. In my head, I'm thinking, Since I already have a bad vibe, it is going to be bad.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2912548]That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and [B]keep to yourself[/B] what you did with your money![/QUOTE]I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912748]I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price![/QUOTE]You have to remember that it is always different when it comes to pussy. If this was a forum about fixing cars and the guy said he went to the dealership and bought a part for 3000 reais then someone comes on and says you can get that same part aftermarket for 500 reais, the person would be thanked by everyone instead of being called a cheapskate by some. There would be nobody egging the guy on to keep going to the dealership because it is his money and he should buy those OEM parts if he pleases. But bring pussy into the equation and egos get big and all bets are off.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]University student doesn't mean anything.[/QUOTE]Back in the Help days you know how many chicks claimed to be university students and nurses and all kind of shit? As far as I could tell, it made no difference when it came to fucking. Besides, I used to be a university student and during that time fucked countless university students. I have also fucked plenty of chicks from various occupations for free. Really nothing special that I would need to pay more for. Besides, I am hiring her to fuck, not to study, do legal briefs, give enemas, or none of that other shit that she may be doing outside of the bed. Her being a university student or whatever the hell else counts the same amount of points as her telling me her favorite color is orange.

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her.[/QUOTE]There was a chick like that in Kenya a couple of months ago. She said 100. I said 100 shillings (74 cent) is not enough. She said $100. I laughed. I told her 5,000 shillings ($37) as that was the most common price I saw in the forum. She rejected it and said at least 8,000 shillings ($60). I said no way. Like you said, everyday after that she started blowing me up wanting to come for the 5,000. I pulled my Fat Joe on her though. Ohhh, but yesterday's price is not today's price. Somebody with less ego already came and got the 5,000. Today's price is 3,000 shillings ($22).

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.[/QUOTE]It is because they lead with ego, then that next day those bills and hunger override the ego and they come to their senses.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912748]I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.[/QUOTE]The problem is that you have no experience of what he experienced. He already tried the cheaper place and did not find it there. He can only save money by taking a girl not to his liking.

It maybe funny to consider it as a competition, but that is what it is. The girls in Sao Paulo may not even reply to you if your profile is not good enough to her. One way to learn is to have the girl show you how other men are presenting themselves, and how they attract their attention. People are not sharing for many reasons. The response here is one reason.

He was paying less before. There is an large upward price increase in Sao Paulo. There is no room for bargaining for some girls like he mentioned and some were asking per hour. This is from personal experience. The most reliable way to find the same type of girls for less is to spend time to prepare to talk to more girls before the trip.

If you can find the same type of girls in the cheaper place, you are one of the lucky ones.

He paid more for his time, not for the girl's time.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2912338]english-speaking university student[/QUOTE]He wants this, not just university student. If your example doesn't qualify, then it doesn't help him. I think he wanted certain style or type of girls that he often found in university students. If you can't tell the difference, again, good for you because you are paying less to get the same result.

With some work, you can get the english speaking and / or unviersity aspect of the interaction which itself is a cool thing. I won't reveal deets or sources and methods, so to speak, but it's a little common sense, and a little work.

That said, Mr. E is right. University pussy is just pussy.

The great thing about Rio is that you have the best pussy infrastructure on earth right here at any tier, any cost level, just a uber or bus or metro ride away, so you can structure a life to get both hot ass fuck on command pussy from some prive girls at a low price, and get the interaction with the english speaking unviersity girls. Maybe not all at the exact same time, but with all the physical and mind fucking you want or need.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2912794]He wants this, not just university student. If your example doesn't qualify, then it doesn't help him. I think he wanted certain style or type of girls that he often found in university students. If you can't tell the difference, again, good for you because you are paying less to get the same result.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2912114]Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here![/QUOTE]I can't believe there are people willing to pay 6000 k for 3 hours of sex in Rio, No way! This is Rio, not Dubai! Doesn't matter how you look like or where you came from, paying this ammount of money is not only outrageous and unnecessary, it's a crime for all the true mongers. These are acceptable prices for the Arab sheikhs who have unlimited economic availability, not true old fashion mongers.

If you want to spend this ammount of money go somewhere else, the world is full of luxury places. Dubai, Kuwait, Montecarlo, Switzerland, Japan, go there and leave places like Brazil, Thailand, Phillipines, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Colombia, to the right mongers.

It's a data point. Should we start lying about what we pay or not say anything at all? So it's high, it's not going to pollute the entire scene. At most, she'll get an artificial indicator of her worth and be slapped down by the next 2 or 3 mongers that laugh her off. Maybe she'll tell a couple friends in the business and they'll also get inflated until they're not. There's no need to beat the guy up over it. I don't remember reading that she held a gun to his head or he decided his kids shouldn't eat that week so he could bang a girl he was obviously smitten with, not that that's any of our business either.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;2912999]I can't believe there are people willing to pay 6000 k for 3 hours of sex in Rio, No way! This is Rio, not Dubai! Doesn't matter how you look like or where you came from, paying this ammount of money is not only outrageous and unnecessary, it's a crime for all the true mongers. These are acceptable prices for the Arab sheikhs who have unlimited economic availability, not true old fashion mongers.

If you want to spend this ammount of money go somewhere else, the world is full of luxury places. Dubai, Kuwait, Montecarlo, Switzerland, Japan, go there and leave places like Brazil, Thailand, Phillipines, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Colombia, to the right mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2912628]University student doesn't mean anything.

Another girl in SP, at Casaro Augusta. I already fuck, we was walking out of the club, and saw this crazy hot girl walk in. I told my brazilian friend to get her phone number. Next day I texted her. She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.

See, when a girl do shit like that. She might be hot, but it turn me off. Its maybe illogical on my part. In my head, I'm thinking, Since I already have a bad vibe, it is going to be bad.[/QUOTE]You're not alone friend. I don't mind an initial very short pleasant back and forth on price, but if it persists and is her focus then complete turnoff. Even if I get my price I can't fuck them after that. We all know they are in it for the money, which is fine, but the good ones allow that to fade in the background quickly. With that said one can't be a dick about money either. If she's asking for another 100 reals and is hot and pleasant, who gives a shit?

In SP or any big city, you can find the university, and you can find the liberal fraternity / sorority where the students are smoking weed.

So, try this.

Go to the prive / clinca for the cheap, hot pussy, then with your nut busted for 150 or 250 reais, go to the university, and smoke weed with the college kids.

Do it 2 times a week.

By the end of week 2 you will have college girls hitting on you. For the price of a student meal in the dining hall, which costs 13 reais.

13 reais.

Best conversation I have had in years, or ever.

Just do it.

Extra credit for training muay thai with the student atletas and going to the college bars and beaches with them.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2913003]You're not alone friend. I don't mind an initial very short pleasant back and forth on price, but if it persists and is her focus then complete turnoff. Even if I get my price I can't fuck them after that. We all know they are in it for the money, which is fine, but the good ones allow that to fade in the background quickly. With that said one can't be a dick about money either. If she's asking for another 100 reals and is hot and pleasant, who gives a shit?[/QUOTE]

Massagem tijuca just raised their price from 180 to 200 per hour from 120 to 150 for half hour. Probably all of the places will slowly follow.

English.

One way that Vagabundo manages the language barrier is with over the ear headphones. I give them to the girl, in this case Monique, who I have fucked twice BBFSCIP on this sabbath (shalom). I am listening to an Adam Sandler comedy on Netflix. Now usually another girl, like Anne Amari both regulates the number of fucks and the worst is that she insists on listening to some brazilian portoguese language sh7 t like this is her mfkn country.

So, that is one practical way to manage the language barrier.

OK, now english speaking adds a factor of connection, especially when it is a college girl.

College implies a wider world view. Monique here, bubble butt and all, hasn't been further away from rio than a condor flies. A condor probably flies further away.

So, there is that. You can declare your love for a college chick plan to have a family fantasize about that future, drive up the west coast of Ireland, scuba dive what's left of the great barrier reef in Australia, or bang her in the shadow of the Eiffel tower or whatever. Does that make the sex better? An actual, good functioning marriage is the optimal situatiion. Does that ever really happen with a big age difference? A college chick is going to be into college guys. I am technically a college student, taking some language classes, but even with my limited game, I have legit college chicks giving me the big hug and calling me amor and texting me at night and calling and giving off all the they want the big vagabundo between their legs vibes -- just not the exact ones I want, but that is just a matter of time. I still do 70 minutes of Muay Thai with the college athletes two times a week, and all the other MMA and swiming and foot volei, and it is good for my body and soul.

What's good for my dick is affordable negra bare pussy that also cooks cleans and goes to the swing and nude beach with me, and puts on the over the ear headphones and lets me watch a adam sandler movie in English.

Would it be better if it were an Italian college or a Brazilian rich family chick from Recreio? That is coming, and it won't be long. You just walk around the campus with your testicles emptied by rio's finest hoars and you give off that Recreio Vice kinda vibe, and the girls just kind of smell the come fuck me smell, which is actually Nivea 5 multi use creme that the Muay Thai team mates recommend, and you kinda smear some of that over your legs while you're spending your whiskey money on some college princess to tutor you in love songs in her language. I spent 500 reais on whiskey and red bull alone last time I went to Paris. I spent 100 reais last week on a real grand daughter of a Youth League for Lenin to explain to me the finer points of Miyagi I Found Love, which is a cool song.

Keep the Russian chicks coming, just let me know where to find more of them.

Selah.

Guys, your numbers are way off. The most he paid was 3 K per session. If you read his post, he knew what he was doing, he just does not negotiate very well and is not very demanding. If you want to help, show him how to get more value for his money.

[QUOTE=TexaBroad;2911540]She said her former SD from the site would give her 2 k BRL per meet[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2912098]paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2912114]Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. [/QUOTE]I can see at least 10 new messages everyday when I am active, I handle them by attractiveness, then perhaps by availability and value. Many I don't even have time to respond to. Now, reverse the role to girl's point of view. Let's say a popular one can easily have a hypnotically 50 new messages a day, she is likely to choose from the highest bidder, then maybe by attractiveness. If you are the first on the list, and you said no, she has another 49 waiting and that is just one day. or she get your price, she may come back 1 month later to accept it because she ran out of the higher price ones. LOL. Girls have the advantage on dating sites.

There are definitely people paying these prices, I too have been wondering who were paying these prices. SP has more girls, but there are more competitions chasing the limited hot ones. I don't know about Rio but I guess it is turning into like SP.

This note is for Sunday guys. I arrived at GIG airport Sunday morning. The day. After Madonna's crazy concert show on Copacabana. Took Uber and airport wifi instructions posted in Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana.

Sim card is still a pain in the ass to find and activate. I took an Uber from GiG to SDU Bossa Nova Mall. The Banco24 ATM always works there with my card for cash withdrawals.

I got two or three cheap chocolate gift wrap presents for my long-time garotas in Bossa Nova mall. For Sunday morning and afternoon I lined up eight different garotas in advance from Monte Carlos and Solarium, to meet at Panda Hotel.

Expecting a 50 percent no-show rate. Of course, despite careful planning, three garotas show up exactly same time. No problems. Its Brazil. They can do hot lesbo action in a two-hour foursome. Whatta country! Dayum Two other are garotas are scheduled to meet tonight at 9 pm. For another threesome. Not a bad Sunday fun day if scheduled in advance.

Brothers,

May I know the choices I have in Copacabana. Are the prices are on par with Bangkok?

Could I request you share some inputs?

You need to clear your inbox.

[QUOTE=Sushruth;2913691]Brothers,

May I know the choices I have in Copacabana. Are the prices are on par with Bangkok?

Could I request you share some inputs?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sushruth;2913691]Brothers,

May I know the choices I have in Copacabana. Are the prices are on par with Bangkok?

Could I request you share some inputs?[/QUOTE]Sushruth sush!

Centro prive Duda massage is my favorite. They had two new, light-skinned beauties. Dayum! The Airbnb was in a condo one block from Eden Spa, two blocks from Monte Carlo. Beach two blocks away. Only went once! Preferred to spend the daytime getting sloppy BJs from twenty years old Meghan duchess of sucksex Markle. The Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana is a great guide, followed it and worked for a TIM sim card, no CPF, and no passport needed. Damn easy breezy. To finally get e-SIM to work. There is a new TIM shop just opened on Friday. It is located between Mcdonald's and Bradesco banc on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana.

The trafico sucks getting to Centro and Panda Hotel. I will follow the vagabundo lead to take the bus to the Centro or move closer to the massage places in the centro. I stayed in Duda message for four hours 3-7 p duplo sessions. Monte Carlo is within walking distance. So had lots of repeat fun there. Tomorrow off to são Paulo for a couple nights in Scandallo.

I am currently enjoying my time in Medellin, Colombia. My plan is to visit all South American countries, so now I'm thinking of moving on to Brazil. Any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated!

From what I've seen, scandalo in São Paulo seems to be the best brothel in the world, is that correct?

I don't know where to visit between Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo.

Which city is better for a sex tour?

And in which cities is it easier to find a date, and not just for prostitution?

And is it true that Brazil has the hottest girls? I think Colombian girls are more reserved.

Before heading out to Sao Paulo flight in the morning, my horny ass hooked up with two pretty, energetic garotas last night. We went to Panda short-timenhotel, again. I always get the presidential suite. The rooms at Panda are six hours or 12 hours booking.

I have knownn both gals for a couple of years meeting them in Scandallos and Soloarium.

On wassap I agreed to pay each of them $800 reais until exhaustion. So we can spend lot of quality fuck and suck time together. I completely forgot these garotas never met each other before, and I had in mind a duplo, threesome session.

Each garota arrived prompt on time wish fucking DR chicas can learn to be on time from brasilianas. Also forgot to tell each garota it was a duplo session. They arrived in lobby of Panda at the same time, giving each other the stink eye, cause they came to see the same guy. , me. Haha. , I mean kkk.

For security Panda calls you first before the garota can come to the room, or when she leaves.

The branca garota is from the country side, the other chica is a mulutta Meghan Markle, pretty but her ass straight street hood deep from favels. Ghetto hood if ya know what I mean. She is a damn firecracker.

She was ready to fight the branca. In the lobby, of Panda.

When they called me I was laughing my ass off. Had to remind the garota WTF, she got married early last year l. Now she is sneaking off, after work, to suck, slobber and full deepthroat swallow my dick leche. Haha.

I brought two red gift bags from the chocolate shop. I buy inexpensive chocolates, for my favorite chicas. The chocolate shop does a very fancy gift wrapping for free. Gave them both edible chocolate roses. She immediately stopped being jealous, swore me to secrecy, about being there. Well yeah of course! Goddamn her brazilian jealousy runs hot. Told her to go make the branca garota feel better by licking her pussy until she squirts. She did a wicked smile, grabbed a few toys and went to town on her pussy lips. Two squirts later the branca is feeling relaxed and comfortable.

Luv brasil, a country where two garotas, having ever met before will go down on each other pussyb and become best of friends afterwards.

It was A really fun night with music, drinks, sexy dancing, illusion of passion, a sex orgy until all three of us were exhausted. Both were jumping up and down on bed like it was sexy sleepover for the gals. Panda has kick ass booming bass speakers to bluetooth connect spotify music.

Seriously I don't remember how long it lasted, nobody cared, nobody was watching time.

My muleta Meghan Markle was walking around the room wearing my shirt and undershirt. She says it smells of me.

I don't remember how long we were together, nobody cared about watching time. Made the flight from Rio to Sao Paulo.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2914028]Before heading out to Sao Paulo flight in the morning, my horny ass hooked up with two pretty, energetic garotas last night. We went to Panda short-timenhotel, again. I always get the presidential suite. The rooms at Panda are six hours or 12 hours booking.

I have knownn both gals for a couple of years meeting them in Scandallos and Soloarium.

On wassap I agreed to pay each of them $800 reais until exhaustion. So we can spend lot of quality fuck and suck time together. I completely forgot these garotas never met each other before, and I had in mind a duplo, threesome session.

Each garota arrived prompt on time wish fucking DR chicas can learn to be on time from brasilianas. Also forgot to tell each garota it was a duplo session. They arrived in lobby of Panda at the same time, giving each other the stink eye, cause they came to see the same guy. , me. Haha. , I mean kkk.

For security Panda calls you first before the garota can come to the room, or when she leaves.

The branca garota is from the country side, the other chica is a mulutta Meghan Markle, pretty but her ass straight street hood deep from favels. Ghetto hood if ya know what I mean. She is a damn firecracker.

She was ready to fight the branca. In the lobby, of Panda.

When they called me I was laughing my ass off. Had to remind the garota WTF, she got married early last year l. Now she is sneaking off, after work, to suck, slobber and full deepthroat swallow my dick leche. Haha.

I brought two red gift bags from the chocolate shop. I buy inexpensive chocolates, for my favorite chicas. The chocolate shop does a very fancy gift wrapping for free. Gave them both edible chocolate roses. She immediately stopped being jealous, swore me to secrecy, about being there. Well yeah of course! Goddamn her brazilian jealousy runs hot. Told her to go make the branca garota feel better by licking her pussy until she squirts. She did a wicked smile, grabbed a few toys and went to town on her pussy lips. Two squirts later the branca is feeling relaxed and comfortable.

Luv brasil, a country where two garotas, having ever met before will go down on each other pussyb and become best of friends afterwards.

It was A really fun night with music, drinks, sexy dancing, illusion of passion, a sex orgy until all three of us were exhausted. Both were jumping up and down on bed like it was sexy sleepover for the gals. Panda has kick ass booming bass speakers to bluetooth connect spotify music.

Seriously I don't remember how long it lasted, nobody cared, nobody was watching time.

My muleta Meghan Markle was walking around the room wearing my shirt and undershirt. She says it smells of me.

I don't remember how long we were together, nobody cared about watching time. Made the flight from Rio to Sao Paulo.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Haha. Love the way you roll man! That sounds like a blast. And just roll with the punches and get the most out of life. And Brasileiras are def unique. Best girls on the planet. Not even close!

I am not certain if this can give anyone new information where and what to hunt. But I decided to tell a little about my experiences in Rio de Janeiro we all do it a bit differently.

In order that you shall understand my style, I need to introduce myself. First of all, I am 80 eighty. Years old. At home (Northern Europe), people believe that I am 70, however, Brazilians think I am in my late 50 ies. I still have most of my (now white) hair and I am reasonably slim. I am blue-eyed. Big plus in Brazil and originally very blond. I am single (widower).

My first time in Rio was in 1983 and I have been a regular since that being in love with Brasileiras. I will not tell about all my experiences during the years, but concentrate on my last 12-days visit in April. I am still fully active at work. I am very lucky: during the last 5 years I visited Rio every 3rd month 3 days connected to work and another week for play.

Usually I stay in the same apartment on Ipanema or maybe in a hotel on Copacabana. My last visit was in April. I am lazy I have a regular routine. Usually start around 10 pm at Mabs. I almost never pick something there I avoid the sharks like fire. But a few times, I have found some gem: the young girl who now and then would go to get some extra money for a new dress. After Mabs, I go to Casablanca around 11 pm. In most cases I find what I am looking for, but I have also gone home alone. I look for the young, unexperienced girl although sometimes I go with the older (30! More experienced ones. I have fucked several of the strippers there.

I spend time interviewing the girls. I never ask for what services they provide I am pretty standard and when we get the right connection they are in for what I want: mutual oral sex and fucking. The interview is more to check the girl's personality, to get a feeling if we have common sympathy and some kind of emotional connection. I always take the girl out of the club and to my apartment explain that it is not until morning, but for a few hours. In that way there is no time for them to go back to the club.

In the apartment I treat them like my girlfriend, respectfully, we drink wine, talk, ask about their life, get to know each other more, maybe this lasts for an hour (I am generally interested in people). Then shower and bed. Instead of expecting the girl to serve me, I serve the girl, kissing her all over the body and ending up with going down on her, usually giving her 1-2 orgasms. After this, the girl is open for everything. Oral sex on me fucking as much as I / we want.

At my age, I can't have sex 3 times a day, I am very happy with once a day. However, because of my age I can control myself, so in principle I can fuck for a long time in every position until I am physically exhausted and just want to rest.

In about 50% of cases everything feels so good that I invite her back the next evening, maybe with dinner. Usually this pleases the girls a lot and the next day (s) we fuck like we are real lovers and this is the end of the world. Of course this is not what happens all the time, but maybe 50%, thanks to good interviewing.

This time in Rio, the first night in Casablanca, I took a girl without proper interview and everything was mediocre and not interesting. The second night I found the gem: 18 years, very beautiful, second visit in her life to Casablanca. Big success we met the evening after as well.

The rest of my time was shared between her and a beautiful student at one of the academic institutions that I visit in Rio. The student girl was not a pro, but she was looking for a sugar daddy and found me as a likely candidate! The first evening I was with her, I was uncertain what she was open for so I only took her for dinner. The next evening she was in bed.

To finish, I had an interesting experience when I checked into hotel Windsor Excelsior the last 3 days because my apartment was no longer free. I wanted Pestana, but there were no rooms. Coming to the hotel room I read on some hotel instructions that no guests are allowed in rooms So in the evening I checked the student girl in as my girlfriend. It was fun and a bit embarrassing to see the face of the guy in reception when he checked in the 24 year old girlfriend of the 80-year old!

[QUOTE=Explorer69;2914229]

In order that you shall understand my style, I need to introduce myself. First of all, I am 80 eighty. Years old. At home (Northern Europe), people believe that I am 70, however, Brazilians think I am in my late 50 ies. I still have most of my (now white) hair and I am reasonably slim. I am blue-eyed. Big plus in Brazil and originally very blond. I am single (widower).

[/QUOTE]Salute sir, you are an inspiration!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2914310]Salute sir, you are an inspiration![/QUOTE]Second that!

[QUOTE=Wkahddl2;2913853]I am currently enjoying my time in Medellin, Colombia. My plan is to visit all South American countries, so now I'm thinking of moving on to Brazil. Any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated!

From what I've seen, scandalo in So Paulo seems to be the best brothel in the world, is that correct?

I don't know where to visit between Rio de Janeiro and So Paulo.

Which city is better for a sex tour?

And in which cities is it easier to find a date, and not just for prostitution?

And is it true that Brazil has the hottest girls? I think Colombian girls are more reserved.[/QUOTE]In my opinion São Paulo is better than Rio de Janeiro. São Paulo has more quantity and has everything for everyone, but it is pricier than Rio de Janeiro. As far as dating goes pretty much any major city in Brazil (I. E São Paulo, Rio, Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Florianopolis) The amount of women Brazil has is unreal.

Are the girls in Brazil hotter than Colombia? That's subjective but if you were to ask me, the ones in Brazil are hotter and fuck better.

Viking Madonna: Memories of my melancholy hoars by Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

To our list of hoaring literature, we must add the below fine novella (just 5 hours on audible), which is about a 90 year old man who orders a 14 year old virgin hoar from his favorite madam. Apart from the legalities and morality, there are bits of health tips for we old dudes (vagabundo himself is 88'; and he notes that Hemingway once said all great writers are liars, and Vagabundo aspires to be a great writer).

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Memories-Melancholy-*****s-Gabriel-M%C3%A1rquez/dp/1400095948/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3IUB1HELEQTBO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cDFyHXcLbB2HLlxRgxxetuTneo8o1WpUSnuJEjqtVnZTopr5uhJ3-PeB_6J7mUxvLWtEUWXKlshFLue_FCO1WSq2Oi7deOSz-6MgkovsL0CUQ1EI-E9xC0sdAUjg1WjFDF0qdNMwC4QnA2PhQIZ2sUL5JA9Kt3AcRhPSd26X8qcSlgqsyeT7ONan-NLFlvt5nNKcJwWB2_HebKzA6RbP92o-wE0Dc2jZyHxFy4fo1cI.7P6_JaZF-rsMdSMCccpArUdtVu6glGt2L2JNj5WnqyU&dib_tag=se&keywords=memories[/URL]+of+my+melancholy&qid=1715451076&sprefix=memories+of+my+me%2 Caps%2 C214&sr=8-1.

Vagabundo is writing his own novella of this genre with a 21 year old silly viking girl here in rio using his 17 centimeter pen to dip into the tight, white, fit, yoga and swimming trained inner thighs of his viking princess, who swims at 05 h30 and does yoga at 18 h, and vagabundo follows her long blond legs to do exactly the same routine like a good slave to his viking madonna queen! She doesn't carry a pistol or a knife yet like the Russian, she carries a iphone and Vagabundo will carry religiously a iphone battery for her for she uses the iphone to call in drone strikes on the ballsacs of Russian and Commando Vermelha in a forthcoming Tropa de Elite 3 / Cidade de Deus 2/ Dom Season 3/ Top Gun 3 all with Madonna fucking Tom Cruise in a Russian Hind Helicopter that rises like a angry Eagle from a 20,000 ton roll on / roll off ship that Vagabundo, 88, and Silly Viking, 21, hijack by the dozen down in Porto Allegre, Santos, and up in Salvador, Fortaleza, and Havana, where Vagabundo grows a beard to blend in with his fellow communists, giving lectures on Lenin in perfect Russian while drinking fine Tequila by the gallon dripping down the snow white blond ass cheeks of the Silly Viking Madonna who sits on his face three times a day, between sunrise ocean swims and sunset yoga out at Recreio Praia Macumba or at Praia Abrico or Praia Boi out in Buzios or at Arrail do Cabo or Ihla Grande.

More than once in the months since we met on a boat party where we talked endlessly in English as the Viking Madonna comes from a civilized nation, she messaged Vagabundo on Life360, and with SWISS NAVY friends, we all came running to pull her skinny blond ass out of the trouble that a svelte viking princess can find in Rio de Janeiro, even when she had the Russian ball gagged for a little dupla gone wrong. But, Vagabundo, never missing a chance to fuck a Russian, gobbled up some generic viagra and cialis like a viking from the long Schwartz line of the baltics, and he slid his bratwurst into the kunt of the Russian, breeding her like his grandfather so many decades ago in Stalingrad, a parting gift to Lenin and its youth league lead by the Russian's grandfather.

Negra Monique came over today, the sabbath (Shabbat Shalom, my flock), and for 300 r she milked my bratwurst 6 times for a CPF of 50+ uber, which is the basis for the pathetic GDP (Garota the Programa) of Lula's communist cock-sucking experiment in Latino Socialism, not to be controversial, and purely for educational and artistic purposes. Monique cleaned, all the better because Vagabundo lead by example and cleaned alongside her negra booty, but all the time, Vagabundo thought of his Viking Madonna, 21, with her blond viking hair wet against her face as he kissed her on the beach for the first time on Thursday, later in the day to suck on her pert 21 year old nipples in his apartment, which was a mess where she had to recharge her iphone and we ate a meal of salmon na brasa from Casuarina. As I type this, Anne Amari is messaging me, and my viking madonna has an academic event, but I am sick of Anne Amari who doesn't fuck enough, or clean, and always has emergencies and refuses to learn english despite Vagabundo dropping hints if not outright commands. Vagabundo is a terrible person in how he blatantly refused all of Nina Deponca's pleas for work as a cleaning only maid (300 r for cleaning, she proposed, to which Vagabundo countered 50 or 100; remember men, as Sperto says, minimum wage here is 1300 reais a month. So don't overpay). Vagabundo could not screenshot his messages to Nina Deponca as they are offensive, both on the grounds of content, and on the grounds of being pornographic in that Nia Nacci 2015's mouth is wrapped around Vagabundo's bratwurst.

I fuck.

I write.

Like Henry "Vagabundo" Miller.

Like Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

Because on days around Centro and Tijuca I put in my earphones, and I listen to Marquez' Memories of my melancholy hoars.

Truth is that in South America, SOUTHCOM to we SWISS Navy veterans, the rules are different, thankfully.

In 2030, my viking Madonna and I will swim out to a SWISS NAVY submarine at sunrise from a REDACTED beach. Perhaps we will skip our normal breakfast at the little coffee shop across the street from Centaurus where the macho cops show how bad their weapons handling is by putting the barrels of their M4 rifles on their boots, threatening to have to explain to their commanding officers how they shot their toes off to look a little more cool. But the local cops all train jiu jitsu. Pick the coffee shops where the cops lounge around as a rule, and put on the patch that shows your blood type in correct Rio de Janeiro Bombeiro fashion, give the cops a nod as you kiss your viking Madonna on the lips on the way to her Portuguese exam, confident that your street Portuguese is good enough to get a cops number at Paris Cafe even if it is not good enough to get a stripper's number. Then meet her just off campus to avoid the embarrassment to her of dating a man 67 years her senior. I drink the blood of young clones and am injected with the stem cells of the Boys from Brazil under the supervision of Slavic Orthodox doctors working for the Russian Consulate in Leblon who have ski-ed across the frontier from Russia into Norway, then South to the Baltic, and from thence aboard a Virginia class boat chartered by the Vatican to bring the Book of Ruth in all the Baltic Languages in Rio to again start civilization. In the salty heaven of our sunrise swims, my Viking Madonna paces our swims, as she strokes on her fins from her long legs which I bought her at Decathlon in Barra.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Explorer69;2914229]I am not certain if this can give anyone new information where and what to hunt. But I decided to tell a little about my experiences in Rio de Janeiro we all do it a bit differently.

In order that you shall understand my style, I need to introduce myself. First of all, I am 80 eighty. Years old. At home (Northern Europe), people believe that I am 70, however, Brazilians think I am in my late 50 ies. I still have most of my (now white) hair and I am reasonably slim. I am blue-eyed. Big plus in Brazil and originally very blond. I am single (widower).

My first time in Rio was in 1983 and I have been a regular since that being in love with Brasileiras. I will not tell about all my experiences during the years, but concentrate on my last 12-days visit in April. I am still fully active at work. I am very lucky: during the last 5 years I visited Rio every 3rd month 3 days connected to work and another week for play..[/QUOTE]

Here's how it went down with my second bareback Mexicana goddess in the last month! LOL.

Day 1:

Wow. Just totally blown away by this girl. Might have made the crucial "never pay first" error but damn what a girl. Here's how it went down.

First the lead up banter was super interesting. I was actually at a bar having a drink because my other Seeking date stood me up. And I was on a roll being very forward chatting up Liz. Telling her to join me. She seemed really intrigued and we chatted a bunch and agreed to meetup today.

I thought she might be a real player or catfish (and still could be. If so hats off to her!) because some of the texts were just a bit forward or off. She was saying she thought I was really handsome and liked my energy. Said she likes to fuck! LOL. And said she wants to see more of me (implying what? Dick pics?

Well she turns out to be super real. Just my type. Petite Mexican girl with a banging rack (it turns out). We settle in at this little dive bar I like and just hit it off. Waitress comes three times and we are still chatting too much to look at the menus. Just really great chat and chemistry from minute one.

She is intrigued by my sexless marriage and confesses she has a boyfriend but he kinda treats her bad. We just chat on and on. She is an open book.

I came within inches of closing the deal and taking g her to the hotel. She first protested she was on her period but when I said I didn't care she seemed like she has a hard rule about no sex on the first date and was pushing me for the next day.

She had hinted she wants sunglasses and generally prefers gifts to allowance. And so I broke the cardinal rule and took her shopping for an expensive pair. We went in my car and on getting in she leans over for a kiss. And it's a great kiss. Sloppy tongue tangling DFK. Nice.

Shopping was great fun and she was very touchy and affectionate. We found a pair of Ray Bans she liked and they look great on her. $270! But I figure if I can wrangle her into the bed it will be worth it. She promised we will have a hotel date tomorrow. But she could still be sharking me.

On the way back to drop her I have to pee so bad. And the condo Shayla just vacated is just down the street so I say I have to pee and why doesn't she come in. I drop a monster pee and come back to the living room and boom we are suddenly kissing again. And deep and passionate.

She has a work call in 15 minutes so we know it's not going down but we def sample the goods. I am feeling her ass and then start on her tits. They are massive and wonderful on her tiny frame. At some point I put her hand on my dick and she likes this. The kissing is amazing.

Eventually she breaks the lip lock saying she has her meeting. But then she backs up against me and puts her hand on my dick again and kinda leans over the island and throws her head back to kiss me. It's very sexy like doggie but with clothes on.

Eventually the spell is broken and I drop her off at her place. We are in contact about tomorrow but so far a little non comittal. Hope I haven't been played because damn I'm in love! Totally smitten. My dream girl. Wow.

Day 2:

So clearly I've outlayed my $270 and hope for a return on investment. But I get a text that says she's doing nanny for the kids at 3 and can't meet. I'm pressing her for precise schedule but not getting much love. We are texting back and forth and honestly she's a bit of a hot mess like saying maybe 1. Or maybe after 11 Pm etc.

I realize I'm being too thirsty trying to get her out so soon again (tho she did say we would meet today) and I'm fucking Lilly on Wednesday and so I back off and say she's clearly too busy. Let's meet in two weeks. And she's like OMG that's so long. Let's meet today! LOL. Having an abundance mindset totally works.

We finally agree a 6 Pm meetup and it's on. She says she has to be home by 7:30 so I am anxious to get this party started. We don't bother with dinner pretext and just take some Paloma's in cans to the condo.

It all starts pretty slow just chatting and drinking. Fuck she can talk your ear off! But I listen patiently because I know there's a payoff and it involves getting my dick wet!

Eventually we move to the bed and she drones on but I am lightly stroking her leg pretty near her pussy. I am keeping an eye on time but at about 6:30 she chugs here drink and rolls to her back on the bed and pulls me on top of her. Ok it's on!

We are in various stages of undress and I get to see the rack she'the sent me a pic of. Wowzers. Like DCups on a tiny frame. Super nice. She wants to get my undies off and does and I straddle her chest and she takes me in her mouth. She's not much of a BJ girl boo but we do some super nice slow mouth fucking for a little bit. But then she says "I want you to fuck me!" And who am I to deny her that pleasure!

I get into place and she starts pulling me inside here bareback! I'm about halfway in when she says "you're clean right?" Hahaha a little late to have that convo now! But yeah I am and I go balls deep.

We fuck a long time in mish. Turns out her pussy feels great in all three primary positions which is rare. So I'm going to forgive the light BJ. After mish we do my fave the Steve. Man I am pounding her good in that position. She loves it and cranes her neck so she can watch my rock hard dick impale her petite body. Hot as fuck.

Swap to doggie at edge of bed. She feels great I'm this position and of course nice view. I reach around and feel her spectacular tits. We must have fucked for at least 20 minutes this way when I suggest we change to cowgirl.

She's got good energy and fucks in Asian cowgirl for an amazingly long time. She is definitely getting off and I just smile and let her use me as her boy toy. I don't think she's fucked anyone that goes as long as me before. Because we just continue on and on, esp without the BJ. More Steve. More mish.

At some point I think I have to get her to BJ to finish me. But she says she doesn't like to taste herself. So I go wash up and position for some submissive BJ, me on my knees reared up and her on her knees cock in mouth. It's a little light to be honest and I hope we can improve here.

Honestly I think she's a bit tired of fucking at this point and we will have to watch this going forward because she picks up her phone and says her boyfriend is blowing up her phone and she hasto leave! Wtf? Prob BS and I am a bit disappointed. This is at the 40 minutes of sex mark. It must show on my face because she says "what" and I say well I want to finish.

She says "can you finish in ten minutes" and I say sure! So now we have to go to the patented Steve finish. I get a towel and position at edge of bed and tell her I want her to suck my balls. She's pretty tentative. You can tell she doesn't usually do this. But she gets one ball in her mouth and starts sucking while I Jack off slowly. Oooooo that feels so good.

I think about directing her to the other ball but it was a minor coup to get the ball sucking at all so I let her suck on. I am growing hard as a brick and feeling the build. At the very last second I kinda push her out of the way but only partial success. I shoot out a nice rope (long shot for me) and it hits her partially on the shoulder and the rest on the towel.

Again I don't think she rolls this way very much like her boyfriend just fucks her because she's like "damn that was super sexy. " And gives me amazing doe eyes and a kiss.

We clean up and have a final kiss as I drop some $$ in her bag. And I drive her home to her boyfriend having fucked the living shit out of her. LOL.

In summary she's a bit mercenary but not too expensive and her BJ is lame. But she fucks like a racehorse and is hot as fuck. And that is a rare gem in my neck of the woods! So let's keep it rolling and see where we go from here!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2914794]Here's how it went down with my second bareback Mexicana goddess in the last month! LOL. Snip.[/QUOTE]Interesting, but why is this in the Rio thread?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2914873]Interesting, but why is this in the Rio thread?[/QUOTE]Damn. Was supposed to go in the Seeking thread. Sorry about that. Well maybe someone enjoyed it. And if you ever get in the Seeking game I am your wingman!

Only in Brazil.

It's Mother's Day and a Sunday. Damn difficult to arrange a time with garotas because they are with families throughout the day. Bummed out, until I wassaped a nineteen-year-old, very light skin, green eyes beauty from Dudas. We had a boring routine session earlier in the week. She is a so-so performer in bed. She responded with interest in meeting on Sunday night, to give a chance to perform better. Fine. I can at least face FK her young ass, and watch her tongue swallow the leche.

She sent a few photos during the family cookout. One chica stood out as a fine-ass green-eyed, caramel creamy body in a bikini. Asked about her friend's name. She said it was her mother, she has excellent genes.

She said they were enjoying time together smoking ganja. Well ok. Next message was from her mother. Really! Wow a hottie, yeah her mother is a maturr GDP taking new clients. That her best service doing incredible deepthroat with swallowing. Dayum, both the dick and brain are racing with combo possibilities straight out of the penthouse forum.

Her mother calls me up on WhatsApp. She sends some f-king outstanding BJ photos.

Ok, I am hooked to try out mother-daughter in different sessions. She will come by Uber Moto for a session later tonight. The daughter is Uber car on the way to Panda Hotel now. The closest I ever came to this combo was in the DR. But couldn't quite pull it off after months of trying. The DR cuties still to this day remain interested in giving it a try sometime. In Brazil, this happening quickly, off the bat. What a country. This has been a mind-blowing Mother's Day on a Sunday. YMMV. This is my experience of rolling with life. Roll with yours.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2914891]Damn. Was supposed to go in the Seeking thread. Sorry about that. Well maybe someone enjoyed it. And if you ever get in the Seeking game I am your wingman![/QUOTE]Very nice of you. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Explorer69;2914229]

This time in Rio, the first night in Casablanca, I took a girl without proper interview and everything was mediocre and not interesting. The second night I found the gem: 18 years, very beautiful, second visit in her life to Casablanca. Big success we met the evening after as well.

It was fun and a bit embarrassing to see the face of the guy in reception when he checked in the 24 year old girlfriend of the 80-year old![/QUOTE]Keep up good work. Age is a number; as long as you can get your hooks in and stay focused you're never out of a fight. Besides the University (not an option for st tourist) where are you meeting the 18 year old in RIO?

Hey you horn dogs with a similar bucket list. Nope Can't help ya fellas out.

What happened was one in a thousand event. The timing just lined up, on mothers day. I was not seeking the combo at all. I randomly asked the garota about the cute girlfriend in her photos. The mom-and-daughter deal was a random opportunity. I didn't ask for it or plan in advance to make it happen. Plus the two chicas could always lie about the relationship.

Unfortunately they were clear, it's not going to happen again. It's not a garota special service offered. They Don't want people to know they shared the same dude me. Sounds like one of those stupid Jerry Springer shows. Where Mom and daughter deepthroat leche the same guy. Haha.

It was kind of weird to get wassap message from the daughter about taking care of mame. How mamita enjoyed swallowing leche. Mae enjoyed this and that.

I guess Brazilian garotas have a bucket list too!

[QUOTE=Tochka;2915203]Hey you horn dogs with a similar bucket list. Nope Can't help ya fellas out.

What happened was one in a thousand event. The timing just lined up, on mothers day. I was not seeking the combo at all. I randomly asked the garota about the cute girlfriend in her photos. The mom-and-daughter deal was a random opportunity. I didn't ask for it or plan in advance to make it happen. Plus the two chicas could always lie about the relationship.

Unfortunately they were clear, it's not going to happen again. It's not a garota special service offered. They Don't want people to know they shared the same dude me. Sounds like one of those stupid Jerry Springer shows. Where Mom and daughter deepthroat leche the same guy. Haha.

It was kind of weird to get wassap message from the daughter about taking care of mame. How mamita enjoyed swallowing leche. Mae enjoyed this and that.

I guess Brazilian garotas have a bucket list too![/QUOTE]Lmfao this made me laugh. Congrats.

Something I noticed, the girls in Brazilian spa's were almost exclusively not comfortable with being filmed (thing of mine) while in Colombia particularly the Santa Fe / Veracruz areas it was a totally different story. To be fair, there were more vennies there, but is this something I can rectify by going somewhere more specific?

I'm planning a trip to monger. There's enough info here to keep me more or less busy in the evenings but I'm wondering what the more experienced members recommend for a first trip. I can't go multiple times a night and I can't go more than 3 or 4 nights in a row until the mongering even gets old. Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat. Based on Steve's reports alone SP ended up on my bucket list but how long is enough? Are any weeknights actually dead in the clubs or does it not matter?

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2915150]Keep up good work. Age is a number; as long as you can get your hooks in and stay focused you're never out of a fight. Besides the University (not an option for st tourist) where are you meeting the 18 year old in RIO?[/QUOTE]I met her in Casablanca. It was her 2nd night there!

[QUOTE=KindAn;2915505]Something I noticed, the girls in Brazilian spa's were almost exclusively not comfortable with being filmed (thing of mine) while in Colombia particularly the Santa Fe / Veracruz areas it was a totally different story. To be fair, there were more vennies there, but is this something I can rectify by going somewhere more specific?[/QUOTE]I suspect you want their faces in. I have photographed lots of garotas but they don't want their faces taken.

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2915516]Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat.[/QUOTE]I didn't know they had moved Ayrton Sennas grave to Rio de Janeiro.

The crappy short-term motel Eden suckz, Love Time near Gloria metro, also sukz. Don't know why garotas recommended to meet there.

The date at the Shell Station gas station across the street from Panda Motel was better than expected.

At Termas Monte Carlos I met a very tall Amazon light skin, Carmel green-eyed, nineteen-year-old beauty. We went to Hotel Panda after Monte Carlos closed at 1 am. We agreed to are $500 for an hour of everything goes. She loves sex toys, lesbian pussy licking, lickety splits, doing elevador dick licking. Two or three hours of fun later Ib realized, not enough cash money to pay for the fun frocklin time. No pix either. There is a 24 x7 Shell Station across the street from the Hotel Panda. It's on Rua Sao Clemente, 307 - Botafogo. A 30-second walk from the hotel. The Shell station has a 24 x7 Banco ATM. We left Panda. I charged the room to my credit card. Walked hand in hand for 30 seconds to the Shell gas station coffee and deli shop to the Branco 24 x7 ATMwithdraw funds. We sat down to share a coffee cappuccino, chips, and pesto grilled sandwich. We talked for the next hour and half like a date, in the Gas station. She is looking for a sugar daddy.

Another late-night ATM is the pharmacy.

Dona Farma Copacabana.

Av. Atlntica, 2364 Copacabana. It is a 1-minute walk, around the corner from Termas Monte Carlo. The pharmacy is open 24 x7 with a 24 x7 Banco ATM machine.

I mentioned two or three places if you need to do a fast late-night early morning ATM run. The third place I like is On the 2nd floor of Bossa Nova mall at SDU airport the 24 x7 Banco ATMs. Until 10 pm. Those were my late-night options for ATM runs. Otherwise, the stupid Bradesco banc opens at 10 am, closes early on Friday, and closes on weekends. Those are the places where my card consistently worked if the ATM has money.

Locations are interchangeable in my mind other than one has scandallo and the other doesn't.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2915709]I didn't know they had moved Ayrton Sennas grave to Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tochka;2915778]I mentioned two or three places if you need to do a fast late-night early morning ATM run. The third place I like is On the 2nd floor of Bossa Nova mall at SDU airport the 24 x7 Banco ATMs. Until 10 pm. Those were my late-night options for ATM runs. Otherwise, the stupid Bradesco banc opens at 10 am, closes early on Friday, and closes on weekends.[/QUOTE]With the "stupid Bradesco" you get a better rate and don't have to pay an extra 24 reais fee. Banco 24 hours are the ATMs which should be avoided. Just plan ahead and make a withdrawal at Bradesco during daytime.

Vagabundo knows that shell across from panda well, having fuked lot in panda and santa marta and environs, to include rua sao clemente 114, verandas, the love shack from 2015.

Date is a great thing, walking around the hood with girl, but.

It depends on the date.

Like a real euro surfer chick exchange student blond who expects the cleaning lady (washed up hoar) to clean her shit from the toilet bowl out of her blond ass or the hoar?

That is the question.

Because once you have the real euro surfer chick exchange student from Finland, you go back to the hoars changed.

Then you disdain the hoars even as they spread their legs for 50 USD raw for 34 minutes of fucking, and the whole time you are rutting in the pussy raw of amber lynn on the 21st floor cuberto, you are wondering about the real euro surfer swimmer blond and when you will talk with her again on a boat party in gloria harbor or in your apartment in recreio.

Because the hoar is just an illusion, a terapia, a salve, a bandage, a cast plastered onto a broken soul wound to replace a life that if you were not born into pussy prison should have had might have had might still have?

But sometimes, the best you can do is to keep taking the terapia, finding that bunda in a hoar house, showing that test, giving that tip, and sliding it in.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2915778]The crappy short-term motel Eden suckz, Love Time near Gloria metro, also sukz. Don't know why garotas recommended to meet there.

The date at the Shell Station gas station across the street from Panda Motel was better than expected.

At Termas Monte Carlos I met a very tall Amazon light skin, Carmel green-eyed, nineteen-year-old beauty. We went to Hotel Panda after Monte Carlos closed at 1 am. We agreed to are $500 for an hour of everything goes. She loves sex toys, lesbian pussy licking, lickety splits, doing elevador dick licking. Two or three hours of fun later Ib realized, not enough cash money to pay for the fun frocklin time. No pix either. There is a 24 x7 Shell Station across the street from the Hotel Panda. It's on Rua Sao Clemente, 307 - Botafogo. A 30-second walk from the hotel. The Shell station has a 24 x7 Banco ATM. We left Panda. I charged the room to my credit card. Walked hand in hand for 30 seconds to the Shell gas station coffee and deli shop to the Branco 24 x7 ATMwithdraw funds. We sat down to share a coffee cappuccino, chips, and pesto grilled sandwich. We talked for the next hour and half like a date, in the Gas station. She is looking for a sugar daddy.

Another late-night ATM is the pharmacy.

Dona Farma Copacabana.

Av. Atlntica, 2364 Copacabana. It is a 1-minute walk, around the corner from Termas Monte Carlo. The pharmacy is open 24 x7 with a 24 x7 Banco ATM machine.

I mentioned two or three places if you need to do a fast late-night early morning ATM run. The third place I like is On the 2nd floor of Bossa Nova mall at SDU airport the 24 x7 Banco ATMs. Until 10 pm. Those were my late-night options for ATM runs. Otherwise, the stupid Bradesco banc opens at 10 am, closes early on Friday, and closes on weekends. Those are the places where my card consistently worked if the ATM has money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2915830]Vagabundo knows that shell across from panda well, having fuked lot in panda and santa marta and environs, to include rua sao clemente 114, verandas, the love shack from 2015.

Date is a great thing, walking around the hood with girl, but.

It depends on the date.

Like a real euro surfer chick exchange student blond who expects the cleaning lady (washed up hoar) to clean her shit from the toilet bowl out of her blond ass or the hoar?

That is the question.

Because once you have the real euro surfer chick exchange student from Finland, you go back to the hoars changed.

Then you disdain the hoars even as they spread their legs for 50 USD raw for 34 minutes of fucking, and the whole time you are rutting in the pussy raw of amber lynn on the 21st floor cuberto, you are wondering about the real euro surfer swimmer blond and when you will talk with her again on a boat party in gloria harbor or in your apartment in recreio.

Because the hoar is just an illusion, a terapia, a salve, a bandage, a cast plastered onto a broken soul wound to replace a life that if you were not born into pussy prison should have had might have had might still have?

But sometimes, the best you can do is to keep taking the terapia, finding that bunda in a hoar house, showing that test, giving that tip, and sliding it in.[/QUOTE]I applaud your conquest of beauty from Finland. They are natural blonds top and bottom.

True to my nature I prefer the natural curves and bundas of Brazilians.

Hell, when the NFL game happens this fall in Sao Paulo expect to see Brazilian-American NFL players in 20 twenty years, trying out for the NFL. I'm going to do my part!

Wonder if the Prives, Termas, massages, and Scandallo pricing going to run up to NFL pricing and bring in top garotas. Like F1.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2915782]With the "stupid Bradesco" you get a better rate and don't have to pay an extra 24 reais fee. Banco 24 hours are the ATMs which should be avoided. Just plan ahead and make a withdrawal at Bradesco during daytime.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your advice. I didn't ask about planning ahead (shrug) or the adneasum conversation about bank rates, schwab card, etc. I'm finnin to get some head from a beauty branca Amazoanas and need cash to seal the deal. Hhaha.

Only sharing my experience, While standing in twelve person deep line at Bradesco bank in Centro because only two out of eight machines ATM machines actually works, or 15 person deep Bradesco ATM in Copa for the same reason. Still stupid Bradesco bank for no ATM on weekends or outside of banking hours. YMMV your experience will vary from mine.

I agree with this.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2915782]With the "stupid Bradesco" you get a better rate and don't have to pay an extra 24 reais fee. Banco 24 hours are the ATMs which should be avoided. Just plan ahead and make a withdrawal at Bradesco during daytime.[/QUOTE]

Dante Inferno Circle Two. Lust and gluttony.

Another night of Brazilian debauchery. Feels like part of Dante's inferno circle of lust and gluttony at Termas Monte Carlo. Whatever plans and budget are started, the night ends way differently than expected. Arrived early to find my lustful Scandallo Garota and her girlfriend waiting for me. I gave them an inexpensive gift box of hot red luv chocolates, and edible chocolate roses. A bright red gift bag presented in front of all the garottes to show she is my bottom be*tch putaria no complexhahaha.

I was unaware she was turned on, ready to go with her toys and gifts too.

She finds her favorite twenty-year-old half-Japanese garota to lick, and off we go to the room.

We order a round of drinks, bubbly, whiskey and nine towels for each Dante circle.

Soon as the door closes, The twenty-year cutie drops to her knees and starts slobbering away deep throat, all the way to the base. She grabs with two hands balls and dick to swallow both together deep down her throat. What a sight to see the dick bulge in her throat. The sweet song of throat bang -bang bulge-bulge. While she repeatedly impales her throat on the dick bulge, my scandallo chica pulls out from her bag, a bright silver, spiked dog collar. That shit is shiny silver. I heard a sound ThwaaapShe slaps the dog collar around the little neck of the young garota thwaap!

I feel the sensation of the dog collar around her throat while her mouth is pounding away deepthroating. . She is collared and ours to do with for pleasure in the circles of sex debauchery. That young garota squealed with delight to be collared, never saw such a delightful smile on her face.

Uh-oh the scandallo garota brings out More toys, female vibrators, sex contraptions for garotas to squirt. She got stuff I never heard of made for chicas, had to take a few photos to remember it all, clitoris suckers, magic rings, Thai balls pimienta, deepthroat spray multi Profunda, intt magic egg vibrators, intt brand garganta sprays, double clit stimulator for garotas to squirt together. G-spot squirter, liquid vibrator, remote pussy vibrator to buzz her pussy when she is sitting in monte carlo o solarium. I damn gave up trying to figure out all of the sex toys, vibrators, masks, marbles, lubricants, edible panties both in chocolate and strawberries.

The flexibility of the young garota, doing a backward 69 so they could both lick and taste the edible panties together. Three types of weird sex collars for garotas.

That putera had every kinky perverted sex toys in her bag of tricks. She must be a reseller for sex toys. Lickable tattoos stickers placed below the belly button it says bon appetite, haha.

A double ended Vagifit for pompoarism.

Yeah she had to explain that one. Ok got it.

We went through eleven towels, sopping wet with garotas squirt, leche, saliva. Love it when garotas are really into each other.

After two and half hours we took a small break to order iFood in room. A couple of bento boxes of delicious Japanese sashimi, yakissoba, and yakitori.

A satisfying quick meal, now back to two or three hours of doing whatever the fking garotas imagine, cause they were on wild sex mind-bending session. Think I broke a tooth, dislocated a thumb, sprained an ankle and tore an ACL with these two wild ass young garotas. This was better than the mother-daughter session on mother's day.

In the end, she opened an app on her phone called at privacy. I only know onlyfans. They both had private porno videos on at privacy with three and four-way Brazilian orgies.

Wow, that sexy twenty-year-old half Japanese university student is a real amateur porno pro, she showed me her videos doing double anal, with a wicked smile on her face. She has a porno channel like Ariella Ferraz. I am a damn amateur in their Brazilian sex world. She doing eyes wide shut scenes, with masks, collars, unimaginable sex toys. Nope, sorry fellas not sharing their porno names or channels.

Though I'm finnin to repeat a session tonite. Vagabundo right about university garotas students.

She has more wild plans in store for tonight and we going to Letom love motel.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2916046]Dante Inferno Circle Two. Lust and gluttony.


A satisfying quick meal, now back to two or three hours of doing whatever the fking garotas imagine, cause they were on wild sex mind-bending session. Think I broke a tooth, dislocated a thumb, sprained an ankle and tore an ACL with these two wild ass young garotas. This was better than the mother-daughter session on mother's day.

I.[/QUOTE]Damn dude! Were you fucking or having a WWF WrestleMania match for the championship? On a side note, I have had 4 Japanese girls in Brasil over the years and all 4 of them were fucking excellent in bed!! (If only they had more bunda!

The university girls show up on time.

The list of things I hate about brazilians is a long one that starts with.

1. They are always late.

2. They have no money.

3. Their weed is poisoned.

4. They complain about stress, see all of the above.

5. They're stupid don't know about the world and are ignorant.

6. They only talk when they are asking for money.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2916046]Dante Inferno Circle Two. Lust and gluttony.

Another night of Brazilian debauchery. Feels like part of Dante's inferno circle of lust and gluttony at Termas Monte Carlo. Whatever plans and budget are started, the night ends way differently than expected. Arrived early to find my lustful Scandallo Garota and her girlfriend waiting for me. I gave them an inexpensive gift box of hot red luv chocolates, and edible chocolate roses. A bright red gift bag presented in front of all the garottes to show she is my bottom be*tch putaria no complexhahaha.

I was unaware she was turned on, ready to go with her toys and gifts too.

She finds her favorite twenty-year-old half-Japanese garota to lick, and off we go to the room.

We order a round of drinks, bubbly, whiskey and nine towels for each Dante circle.

Soon as the door closes, The twenty-year cutie drops to her knees and starts slobbering away deep throat, all the way to the base. She grabs with two hands balls and dick to swallow both together deep down her throat. What a sight to see the dick bulge in her throat. The sweet song of throat bang -bang bulge-bulge. While she repeatedly impales her throat on the dick bulge, my scandallo chica pulls out from her bag, a bright silver, spiked dog collar. That shit is shiny silver. I heard a sound ThwaaapShe slaps the dog collar around the little neck of the young garota thwaap!

I feel the sensation of the dog collar around her throat while her mouth is pounding away deepthroating. . She is collared and ours to do with for pleasure in the circles of sex debauchery. That young garota squealed with delight to be collared, never saw such a delightful smile on her face.

Uh-oh the scandallo garota brings out More toys, female vibrators, sex contraptions for garotas to squirt. She got stuff I never heard of made for chicas, had to take a few photos to remember it all, clitoris suckers, magic rings, Thai balls pimienta, deepthroat spray multi Profunda, intt magic egg vibrators, intt brand garganta sprays, double clit stimulator for garotas to squirt together. G-spot squirter, liquid vibrator, remote pussy vibrator to buzz her pussy when she is sitting in monte carlo o solarium. I damn gave up trying to figure out all of the sex toys, vibrators, masks, marbles, lubricants, edible panties both in chocolate and strawberries.

The flexibility of the young garota, doing a backward 69 so they could both lick and taste the edible panties together. Three types of weird sex collars for garotas.

That putera had every kinky perverted sex toys in her bag of tricks. She must be a reseller for sex toys. Lickable tattoos stickers placed below the belly button it says bon appetite, haha.

A double ended Vagifit for pompoarism.

Yeah she had to explain that one. Ok got it.

We went through eleven towels, sopping wet with garotas squirt, leche, saliva. Love it when garotas are really into each other.

After two and half hours we took a small break to order iFood in room. A couple of bento boxes of delicious Japanese sashimi, yakissoba, and yakitori.

A satisfying quick meal, now back to two or three hours of doing whatever the fking garotas imagine, cause they were on wild sex mind-bending session. Think I broke a tooth, dislocated a thumb, sprained an ankle and tore an ACL with these two wild ass young garotas. This was better than the mother-daughter session on mother's day.

In the end, she opened an app on her phone called at privacy. I only know onlyfans. They both had private porno videos on at privacy with three and four-way Brazilian orgies.

Wow, that sexy twenty-year-old half Japanese university student is a real amateur porno pro, she showed me her videos doing double anal, with a wicked smile on her face. She has a porno channel like Ariella Ferraz. I am a damn amateur in their Brazilian sex world. She doing eyes wide shut scenes, with masks, collars, unimaginable sex toys. Nope, sorry fellas not sharing their porno names or channels.

Though I'm finnin to repeat a session tonite. Vagabundo right about university garotas students.

She has more wild plans in store for tonight and we going to Letom love motel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2915516]I'm planning a trip to monger. There's enough info here to keep me more or less busy in the evenings but I'm wondering what the more experienced members recommend for a first trip. I can't go multiple times a night and I can't go more than 3 or 4 nights in a row until the mongering even gets old. Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat. Based on Steve's reports alone SP ended up on my bucket list but how long is enough? Are any weeknights actually dead in the clubs or does it not matter?[/QUOTE]It doesn't matter Rio or SP but I feel your pain. I usually arrive on a Wednesday or Thursday and party all the way to Sunday and stop for a few days. But I've partied hard, drinking very late 2 girls at a time etc, living the life then I might go to Buzios for a couple of days and just rest at a nice beach, come back Wednesday or Thursday and start over again till I drop. If you have limited time then it takes 11 or 12 days and then I'm good. But if I was you I’d go to Rio instead of SP so at least you’d have the beach to fill your time.

Darkroom.

Walked 9 minutes from the airbnb in Centro to visit Darkroom early afternoon. There is a friendly barbershop opposite Edificio Patrimnio to get a decent shapeup and fade.

Thanks to Vagabundo and Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana for easy finding Darkroom penthouse. Forgot about the stairs.

There are lots of young Negra beauties, offering all holes and anal. I did a simple duplo BJ one-hour session, then bounced to Dudas for the variety. I forgot not to take off the shoes in the Darkroom.

I have been there four times. Every single time, some random garotas, jumps into my shoes, puts on my jacket, and goes clogging around Darkroom giggling while the other garotas laugh at her.

Any anyone else experienced this? This happened four different times which is a bit much. Maybe some Darkroom ritual. (shrug) no clue about interest in wearing men's shoes.

I had another kinky proposition from the mother-daughter combo. We spent a couple of hours in Letom Motel, Suite Eros. The daughter said her Aunt and sister wanted a turn to make money and do a fantasy too. The mom told her sister, how much fun we had. That piqued the Aunt's interest. The 19-year-old daughter said her 23-year-old sister studying psychology at Universidade do Estado do Rio de Janeiro, wanted a session right away. She sent a wasp photo of her sister standing in a coffee line at the university.

Never thought things could get that wild in Brazil. That shit was never on my bucket list, mother, daughter, aunt, and sister. They all look exactly like different ages of Daenerys Stormborn and Princess Rhaenys Targaryen games of Thrones. Four short cute-as-a-button blonde brancas. We watched two shows together, season 1 GoT, and Netflix Confessions of a Brazilian Call Girl. The next day they went to the salon to color their hair even more.

Yet again, I am the amateur in the depths of the Brazilian sex world. I had no f-king clue how open the women in this family shared about their sex lives, and very open about sharing their sex conquests about the same guyme.

I didn't believe it, thought this was a stripper shit setup or none of them is related. Although I did have the family photos from Mother's Day last week.

Sign me up for psych counseling classes, because the Brazilian Illusion of Passion (IoP) runs in the family and was never, ever on my bucket list. Their enthusiasm and openness to Banging the same guy me. YMMV your mileage may vary, and your experience is different from mine. But seeing and experiencing mother, daughter, sister, and aunt doing their own private porno videos on the at private platform is mind-blowing, more power to them, monetize that money maker.

I have gotten sick and tired of not just cariocas but brazilins.

I've started a list.

1. no money.

2. bad weed.

3. only time they talk is to ask for money.

4. always late.

5. never on time.

6. total selfish time wasters.

7. don't speak english.

8. don't even speak portoguese. They speak this rio gibberish short hand, which I speak too, but which is shit. Just once, it only takes once, vagabundo goes out with a blond, euro girl who doesn't have goddammed instagram but has a real curriculo who shows up on time who has her own money even though I pay, who gives a legit kiss and some tits, and that is that, leave all the carioca dogs to the dogs and figure it out, there are decent women out there, not just the shit that the braziians use to scratch the itch. Hookers use them as maids to take out the trash, empty your balls, and forget them.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2916274]Damn dude! Were you fucking or having a WWF WrestleMania match for the championship? On a side note, I have had 4 Japanese girls in Brasil over the years and all 4 of them were fucking excellent in bed!! (If only they had more bunda![/QUOTE]Yeah, not huge bundas on half-Japanese garotas. I have four Japanese garotas in rotation. Two from Scandallo, we go To Lush sex motel nearby. The other two are in Rio, former Monte Carlo, and Solario.

Now they only do wassap date sessions. The garotas tell me they are doing this more and more to meet clients. For Japanese garotas I prefer to use her other end. Her exotic face is a dick face fuck and ball licks.

She mastered the technique of looking up with pleasing almond green eyes, continuous exotic eye contact, unbroken no shying away while making deepthroat slurping sounds. I know those are colored contacts lens help the IoP. She has a nineteen-year-old slim, curvey Japanese bunda in the air, heads down, eyes up sucking away.

My Japanese Garota has her best go-to move the threesome "elevador".

Saliva dick licking with a Mulutta Meghan Markle, blonde Branca, and half Japanese going up and down the dick elevator at the same time. United colors of Benetton Brasil!

Sometimes she will gently hold the heads up, mouths open of the other two garotas.

They catch every bit of leche spurt. Nothing is left over, no spilled leche. If it rolls down the dick, she is the first to lap up and spit it on the tongue of the mulatta first. Then up its goes to the blonde branca, then back down on the tongue of My Japanese garota. She always starts the snowballing Leche first. I don't know how or when nineteen year old garotas learn to do the cum swap elevadorn (shrug) Dripping the cum leche onto the tongues of the mulutta and Branca, reminds me.

I forgot the spit or swallow convo doesn't come up with the half Japanese Garota servicing me. It always swallows. Every time.

Nina Deponca is cleaning.

I have also fucked her ass twice.

I listen to Russia music, though the Russian is not dating me, but for 20 usd, to listen to her sign to her sing the following, is worth it for me. Meanwhile I have been dating a finnish student, but with the age difference, I probably have little chance, but my game is going to improve as I will do swimming and yoga and less muay thai. Rich old dirty volunteer professor paying 23 year old hip hop genius supermodels to teach me ganja kazakstan heavy base lyrics, she doesn't care, might even be my friend, which is not at all a bad thought.

Lyrics of the song "I Got Love" ft. Rem Digga.

Intro: Miyagi & Endgame.

I got love, I.

I got love, I.

And-and-and, and.

Verse 1: Endgame.

Enveloped me, enveloped me.

It's like you're my kind of marijuana.

The sky is in diamonds, summer has flown.

You are my baby. Daughter of the carnival.

Move it baby, prom princess.

Night of change, thoughts of a Rastafarian.

Until I got tired the music played.

Someone smoked, someone was stuck.

This fool Duremara, she is for us.

I thought I was flying to warmer climes.

Summer, sea, sand, but I can't get enough of you.

I dance to the floor, hands to the ceiling of the hall.

From where I fell I will never return.

Miraculously, he got away and took away the sadness with her.

This is our life and it's never enough.

I dance to the floor, hands to the ceiling of the hall.

Go, everybody, shake your ass, go.

Move, everybody is my favorite show.

Head shook, bachata gave mannama.

Roundup of idiots, piles of profits.

Give us plenty of butora.

When this day comes, sing to yourself.

About me, for love, for mom, for brother.

And fate will bend ata-ata.

A-ta-man, I'm like a-ta-man.

In a hot tango, a music lover, I am ruled by a badman.

Dance! So primitive.

Dance! So impulsive.

Dance! Daughter of the Carnival.

There were few of you on the dance floor, few.

You might also like.

Narrative.

Miyagi & Endspiel.

My Home.

Max Korzh.

Saloon.

Miyagi & Endspiel.

Chorus: Miyagi.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

Verse 2: Miyagi.

Jah, Jah, Jah Bless! We'll hang the windows.

Buden again princess and despot.

Laurels can't take your ardor, we're playing tricks.

And we'll break loose together over the years.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Fly around the planets in an instant.

Then the rain drums. Melancholy and sadness.

But you illuminated freedom with the light of goodness.

Did you move your hips while dancing?

Mmm, you are my rumba, you are my samba.

You are my salsa, you are my tango.

Pile up the smoke, chat volume.

Fly with me in these arms.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Pile up the smoke, chat volume.

Fly with me in these arms.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Pile up the smoke, chat volume.

Fly with me in these arms.

Chorus: Miyagi.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

Verse 3: Rem Digga.

It's just a game, maybe, probably.

Even your nakedness.

Woah baby, I don't believe it!

Fall into my arms, my beauty.

You and I are without a guide, that's how it should be.

Your soul touched my soul, dear, lambada.

To twist the booty, there is a beat, don't feel sorry for the sub.

I'm on fire with you, like a bastard in pubs, give me some heat!

I'm ready to issue a letter to all of you.

Who knows how to make noise. Make some noise.

It's hot until the morning, the crowd is in a frenzy.

But I look, you see, only at you, do you believe, ma? (Ma?

And when the club starts nodding off in the morning.

I'll steal you like Azor's rose.

I will smile in silence and say simply:

"Come to me, sun, unbraid your hair".

Bridge: Rem Digga & Miyagi.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Unravel your braids.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Unravel your braids.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Come to me, sun, unbraid your hair.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Unravel your braids.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2916352]I have gotten sick and tired of not just cariocas but brazilins.

I've started a list.

1. no money.

2. bad weed.

3. only time they talk is to ask for money.

4. always late.

5. never on time.

6. total selfish time wasters.

7. don't speak english.

8. don't even speak portoguese. They speak this rio gibberish short hand, which I speak too, but which is shit. Just once, it only takes once, vagabundo goes out with a blond, euro girl who doesn't have goddammed instagram but has a real curriculo who shows up on time who has her own money even though I pay, who gives a legit kiss and some tits, and that is that, leave all the carioca dogs to the dogs and figure it out, there are decent women out there, not just the shit that the braziians use to scratch the itch. Hookers use them as maids to take out the trash, empty your balls, and forget them.[/QUOTE]

I had nina deponca over 3 pops bbfsci cuzinha.

She cleaned.

I paid her 300 + 50 passage.

She said she had a boyfriend, but I guess that didn't prevent her from fucking, which is good.

I mean, what else. Not much, the world seems to be falling apart, but here in rio vagabundo is learning russian from ganja kazakstan music. So it goes.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2916955]Nina Deponca is cleaning.

I have also fucked her ass twice.

I listen to Russia music, though the Russian is not dating me, but for 20 usd, to listen to her sign to her sing the following, is worth it for me. Meanwhile I have been dating a finnish student, but with the age difference, I probably have little chance, but my game is going to improve as I will do swimming and yoga and less muay thai. Rich old dirty volunteer professor paying 23 year old hip hop genius supermodels to teach me ganja kazakstan heavy base lyrics, she doesn't care, might even be my friend, which is not at all a bad thought.

Lyrics of the song "I Got Love" ft. Rem Digga.......[/QUOTE]You are in love with Nina?

Vagabundo loves no one.

Today had 40 minutes straight fucking in a hotel with Amber Lynn.

Then over to darkroom for 30 minutes of covered fucking with Laura.

All of which was good.

Vagabundo gets legit game with 21 year old college girls.

The hoars though are fun sport fucking.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2917130]You are in love with Nina?[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://youtu.be/nidQCt_HEsY?si=MHbikwceIp9pOuCn[/URL]

This Russian music is the bomb.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2917130]You are in love with Nina?[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://youtu.be/nidQCt_HEsY?si=MHbikwceIp9pOuCn[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2916955]Nina Deponca is cleaning.

I have also fucked her ass twice.

I listen to Russia music, though the Russian is not dating me, but for 20 usd, to listen to her sign to her sing the following, is worth it for me. Meanwhile I have been dating a finnish student, but with the age difference, I probably have little chance, but my game is going to improve as I will do swimming and yoga and less muay thai. Rich old dirty volunteer professor paying 23 year old hip hop genius supermodels to teach me ganja kazakstan heavy base lyrics, she doesn't care, might even be my friend, which is not at all a bad thought..[/QUOTE]

Your Mail box is full.

You want the Map.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2917225][URL]https://youtu.be/nidQCt_HEsY?si=MHbikwceIp9pOuCn[/URL]

This Russian music is the bomb.[/QUOTE]First time in my life I've heard Russian music. I had no clue it was so popular, near 1 billion views! One guys voice reminded me of Vladmir Putin, LOL I guess that's the music of the future, so I get it you are not in love but you got love.

Pernoite, helping others. , travel plans to rio from US or Euroland.

I have anne amari over for a pernoite. We fucked, as usual, to some anna foxx porn from [URL]kink.com[/URL]. I am helping her while she gets legit work which she has been doing by online classes and referrals to governor of rio state job sites. And I am happy for her and proud of her for taking that step out of the oldest profession.

FWIW, I have had 4 straight years of hoaring and that is enough for any man in a lifetime, not that I plan to stop cold turkey. I do plan to diversify to find some balance with non pros, which in her way she is becoming. She makes 100 r a day for 5 hours of office work, copying, etc. She can make more if she learns english, so I help her by sending some english audio files, and of course, it will be nice to have some conversation with her in english.

You should help other people, especially those who can't help you, it's good for your soul, and some time down the road, you will need the favor returned.

If anyone is coming from the US or Europe, especially previous friends please let me know. I have a few items from amazon that I'd ask some fellow ISG member to bring with. Thanks in advance, and I will be glad to give you a tour of Rio sex venues when you are in town.

9. hoars steal your shit, most recently either Monique (90%) or Nina DePonca, who stole a knife, a large fixed blade kukri shaped knife that I used for salmon food prep. Lesson learned, file under foreign internal defense: keep your knives, laptops, cell phones in a safe. Monique is also suspect 90% for stealing my favorite balclava, which I had also showed her. Strengths come with weaknesses. She is a great fuck, and fucks 6 times or 5 times in a pernoite, and goes to the nude beach and swings, but she is a dangerous thief, which means a little BDSM is in order. The wiser course would of course to be to just avoid.

10. Hoars sometimes assault you, including with knives. So, be ready.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2916352]I have gotten sick and tired of not just cariocas but brazilins.

I've started a list.

1. no money.

2. bad weed.

3. only time they talk is to ask for money.

4. always late.

5. never on time.

6. total selfish time wasters.

7. don't speak english.

8. don't even speak portoguese. They speak this rio gibberish short hand, which I speak too, but which is shit. Just once, it only takes once, vagabundo goes out with a blond, euro girl who doesn't have goddammed instagram but has a real curriculo who shows up on time who has her own money even though I pay, who gives a legit kiss and some tits, and that is that, leave all the carioca dogs to the dogs and figure it out, there are decent women out there, not just the shit that the braziians use to scratch the itch. Hookers use them as maids to take out the trash, empty your balls, and forget them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2917935]

FWIW, I have had 4 straight years of hoaring and that is enough for any man in a lifetime, not that I plan to stop cold turkey. I do plan to diversify to find some balance with non pros, which in her way she is becoming. She makes 100 r a day for 5 hours of office work, copying, etc. She can make more if she learns english, so I help her by sending some english audio files, and of course, it will be nice to have some conversation with her in english.
[/QUOTE]Careful! I know ex-punters who have completely stopped mongering and settled down with their happy girl, a few babies, and her entire extended family. From what I gather, Brasileras stop being understanding very fast and can be as possessive as their "rich world" sisters. Gee, even I once had experienced a scene from telenovela on a weekend trip to Buzios.

And yes, when I say "punters" I mean more than one, LOL.

Went to the 'new' terma in Centro last night, La Confriria. It's just around the corner from Terma New York.

Most of the girls were average with a few ugly ones but a couple of diamonds too. Got a 19 year old, work name Bruna, who just started there. Beautiful 19 year old with dark hair but rare for Rio, milky white skin. Good performance too.

Prices were as follows:

30 minutes - 160.

40 minutes - 180.

1 hour - 200.

I had one bottle of water and paid 33 for that and entrance combined. Rooms weren't bad either.

I know tomorrow is a national holiday, does anyone know if the termas will be open?

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2918675]Went to the 'new' terma in Centro last night, La Confriria. It's just around the corner from Terma New York.

Most of the girls were average with a few ugly ones but a couple of diamonds too. Got a 19 year old, work name Bruna, who just started there. Beautiful 19 year old with dark hair but rare for Rio, milky white skin. Good performance too.

Prices were as follows:

30 minutes - 160.

40 minutes - 180.

1 hour - 200.

I had one bottle of water and paid 33 for that and entrance combined. Rooms weren't bad either.

I know tomorrow is a national holiday, does anyone know if the termas will be open?[/QUOTE]Can you say a little bit more about this terma? I mean you mentioned the rooms, but how were the facilities overall? Were there showers in the rooms? What was the size of the boate (comparable to which other terma)? How many tutes had the booty on duty? Was there food? Just trying to get a sense if I should add this one to my list. Like the fact you found an attractive branca there.

I went to Eden spa today, very happy with my hour there. Staff told me they were closed tomorrow for holiday. Not sure about the termas.

First time in Brazil, trip report to follow. A big thank you to ShinyCrazy, his Idiots guide has been so helpful.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2918737]Can you say a little bit more about this terma? I mean you mentioned the rooms, but how were the facilities overall? Were there showers in the rooms? What was the size of the boate (comparable to which other terma)? How many tutes had the booty on duty? Was there food? Just trying to get a sense if I should add this one to my list. Like the fact you found an attractive branca there.[/QUOTE]Its a small local terma so definitely not fancy. I'd say its a step up from New York for example but not as nice as 4 x 4.

I don't think they had Food or any facilities but it was clean and everyone was friendly. The rooms had showers.

There was around 15 women there and at least 3 I would have taken.

If you are expecting Solarium / Centaurus quality you will be hugely disappointed but its a nice alternative to 4 x 4 and very cheap just to go in and have a drink. 4 x 4 is 70 entrance with no consumption, which seems quite expensive to me for a centro terma.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2918918]Its a small local terma so definitely not fancy. I'd say its a step up from New York for example but not as nice as 4 x 4.

I don't think they had Food or any facilities but it was clean and everyone was friendly. The rooms had showers.

There was around 15 women there and at least 3 I would have taken.

If you are expecting Solarium / Centaurus quality you will be hugely disappointed but its a nice alternative to 4 x 4 and very cheap just to go in and have a drink. 4 x 4 is 70 entrance with no consumption, which seems quite expensive to me for a centro terma.[/QUOTE]Thanks for these additional details. I'm always looking for new places to add into a rotation. I just might have to try this one out!

On our local whatsapp group, we have access to this terma's private whatsapp group. PM me or Senor Nounce or MichaelSamuel to be added.

These tier 2 (centro prives and termas change all the time. I am also constantly updating the bubba boy guide (w vagabundo et al 's updates) . That too we can send through the local wassap group.

Vagabundo had a good 30 minute fuck bbfscip with callsign amber lynn at the hotel sevilha yesterday.

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So if you are a porn producer like the the authors of the above intellectual property, now to about November (call it halloween) is the best time to be in Rio de Janeiro, which is it's own planet and the capital of the world.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2918918]Its a small local terma so definitely not fancy. I'd say its a step up from New York for example but not as nice as 4 x 4.

I don't think they had Food or any facilities but it was clean and everyone was friendly. The rooms had showers.

There was around 15 women there and at least 3 I would have taken.

If you are expecting Solarium / Centaurus quality you will be hugely disappointed but its a nice alternative to 4 x 4 and very cheap just to go in and have a drink. 4 x 4 is 70 entrance with no consumption, which seems quite expensive to me for a centro terma.[/QUOTE]

Dude is right. Over the course of several trips I cannot tell you how many things I lost, stolen, forgotten in RJ or SP. Left iPhones 13 in Uber, left iPhone on a customer service counter somewhere in the GRU airport, lost wallet, lost credit cards, slick pickpocketed by a smiling hood garotas, hit by a car, hit by a moto, near decapitation of thumb as it was slammed into the uber car door in front of clinica prime, the garotas came out to see who was howling like a banshee. Hit by Moto driving on the stupid sidewalk in front of the supermarket, lost US dollars on the floor somewhere in scandallo, pants pockets pilifired by negra garota while in bathroom the other garota told on her so got it backthe little shit is blocked and she is called the negra Ladro in our garotas wassap group.

Gave away $500 reais as tip in drunken stupor because the $2 dollars reais blue color banknote looks like the blue $500 reais banknote when drunk, forgot the iPhone charger cable plugged into the power outlet in a bunch of no tell motel rooms, getting counterfeits reais as change, sketchy guys trying to jump into the uber, use the door as a battering ram to kick those mofos out.

Series of drunken garotas vomiting in casaro room, drunken garotas vomiting in scandallos room, that's some smelly shit they eat.

Sexy looking garotas with a curvy bunda has a weirdo enormous hairy ass pimple on the rim of her butthole, damn I jumped the f-out of the room yuck. Didn't care about her feelings nothing except getting the fuck hell out of there. Never touched her.

A few times Smelled like weed walking into SDU and CGH airport because garotas had been smoking weed all afternoon. Hope there are no sniffer dogs at those airports.

Woke up in the Airbnb middle of the day with Solarium, Monte Carlos, and New York Cancun locker room keys wrapped around my wrists and arms, I left clothes in termas locker all night and next day didn't remember which termas had my stuff. I guess they don't always check all the lockers and room keys when they close up.

In the end got a new iphone recovered iphone number, esim, all data from the magical cloud, got new credit card, no security or fraud alerts happened, great returns in the market, so cashed out some profits, rebuilt the Brasilian war chest, went to the ER hospital, bandaged everything up, thumb took six months to heal, more physical therapy to get rid of the walking limp, got a leash for the iphone, always use the leash, stick the phone inside button shirt walking around centro or on metro. Learned to find and use the no frills no tell motel in centro, copa, botafogo, gloria, lapa for hood and prive garota takeout, not the airbnb suite, keep stuff away from frisky garotas, wearing pants with double inside pockets, in a vehicle roll down windows turn on inside lights when police roadblocks ahead say nothing, went back next night to each Termas to find my clothes, now I wear the robe over the clothes.

Dude I will never ever go down on Prive, Clinica, boate, garotas no matter what. More power to ya dining at the why bros. It's the other garotas job in the duplo session, to tongue pussy lick, DATY that anal pimpled pussies.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2919302]Gave away $500 reais as tip in drunken stupor because the $2 dollars reais blue color banknote looks like the blue $500 reais banknote [/QUOTE]That 500 reais banknote must have been specially made for you. However there are 200 and 100 reais banknotes. Maybe if a newbie is drunk or have weak eyes he could mistake a 100 reais banknote for 2 reais.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2919331]That 500 reais banknote must have been specially made for you. However there are 200 and 100 reais banknotes. Maybe if a newbie is drunk or have weak eyes he could mistake a 100 reais banknote for 2 reais.[/QUOTE]Yup its the 100 reais banknote and 2 reais that look similar color to me, in a drunken stupor.

No wonder that fat ass cleaning gal at monte carlos was so happy!

Just needed four more towels for all the six wet-spots in the bed. The two garotas squirted a circle of wetspots around the monte carlo logo.

I had to leche in the bulleseye center, both lapped it up the leche gloop. Bed was a mess of body fluids. Damn glad I didn't have to clean up that mess.

Learned to keep those 2 reais in different pocket from 100 , they look kinda blue to me.

YMMV your experience will vary different from mine.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2919302]......Dude I will never ever go down on Prive, Clinica, boate, garotas no matter what. More power to ya dining at the why bros. It's the other garotas job in the duplo session, to tongue pussy lick, DATY that anal pimpled pussies.[/QUOTE]You're missing 20% of the fun.

Is there a 500 reais banknote?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2919331]That 500 reais banknote must have been specially made for you. However there are 200 and 100 reais banknotes. Maybe if a newbie is drunk or have weak eyes he could mistake a 100 reais banknote for 2 reais.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2919501]Is there a 500 reais banknote?[/QUOTE]Yup, it's the 100 reais banknote and 2 reais that look similar in color to me in Brasil. This trip I had leftover banknotes from mongering in Tijuana and CDMX, I think it is 20 pesos Mexican banknote is bluish dunno, then mongered in DR Santo Domingo, the airport ATM gives 2000 pesos seems bluish dunno, Panama all greenbacks, brasil back to bluish banknotes.

I dislike getting coins back in change. A few times unknowingly tried to give tip in coins from the wrong country or pay tolls in wrong coins.

Bucket list is to play porno Monopoly with five Chicas using banknotes from each of their countries, DR, Colombiana, Brasil, Mexicana and Thailand Rsrs kkkk jaja haha.

YMMV your experience may vary from mine, opinion on different banknotes vary from mine YMMV.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2919501]Is there a 500 reais banknote?[/QUOTE]No, not yet.

[URL]https://www.bcb.gov.br/cedulasemoedas/cedulasemitidas[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;2919570]No, not yet.

[URL]https://www.bcb.gov.br/cedulasemoedas/cedulasemitidas[/URL][/QUOTE]Who would want it when nobody has change for a 100 anyway?

Women are ruled by their looks, overt sexuality men go bananas over and their uterus. This applies to the lowest crack ho to the intelligent professionals, and furthermore there is time limit on looks and fertility. Women rationally use loosely defined "love", sex and finally children to secure the man, not always successfully. This traps a lot of men into disadvantage and especially in the USA where the entire legal system and economy is centered on the production of new economic units (babies) variously for labor, taxation, canon fodder in wars and consumption of consumer baubles and as debt slaves for banks. That's the truth of the trade. Women are part of the glue and many see men as their legally protected meal ticket. It's not that women are bad, they too are prisoners and (generally reluctantly) have to act and dress in a certain way to avoid being labelled as a ugly * or pushy. They also face a huge risk of sexual assault just walking the streets.

Anyway, the Hollywood myth of fireworks and eternal love, like religion and eternal heaven or hell, democracy and the legal scam, are bullshit to control us. The trick is is make us believe in it so we self-regulate on their rigged game. The men here are obviously onto the Hollywood lies about eternal love, but often miss the rest of the puzzle, and a really big bit is being genuinely self-confident in who you are, self -improvement through doing the hard yards, and trusting critical thinking and cold assessment of what is done or not done, rather than cheap talk and lofty claims, ie "you can trust me". The missing self-development, lack of building relationships are lack of self care is why so many devolve into alcohol (drug) and mongering to fill the vacuum and why there are so many suicides of loners in sexual paradise like LOS or Rio. That is as much as a trap as a wage slave at will being ground down in some corporate plantation.

Rio is great. I'm enjoying the broad fabric, the food, nature, normal locals as real friends (that also requires real work) and generally the opposite of USA that is a mainly an empty society of shopping malls and entertainment (that includes the media and corrupt politicians) and escapism.

Have fun, and yes the P4 P women are mostly poor, desperate with nothing to lose and will try to take advantage as a trade for fat, smelly, unfriendly or even violent and badly groomed men slobbering over them for cash or to use as a human fleshlight. You would do the same if you were in their position rather than some privileged Bourgeios and entitled mindset of property laws that is an exercise of unequal power and exploitation, so quit whining and just take discreet precautions without rubbing it into her face. Get to the gym, dress nicely, clean your teeth, be nice and treat them well. It's a great investment, generally a 3x trade. I'm very grateful to them for bringing so much pleasure, excitement and fun. Coffee and BJ every morning. Definitely start the day with a happy place.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2919741]Who would want it when nobody has change for a 100 anyway?[/QUOTE]Those who don't need cash change.

Just recently 1,000 ARS notes south of the border were enough, but here comes Polyphemus:

[URL]https://www.bcra.gob.ar/micrositios/Micrositio-billete-10000-pesos-del-Valle-Belgrano-i.asp[/URL]

That heroic figure is just $11, soon to be much less. Poor people, decades of corruption. But the good news is that Netflix and other services are hugely discounted if you use a VPN and / or get a ARS debit card. Not that you need to, BR is quite competitive compared to rip-off USA suckers (same with health care, hookers and everything else).

Enjoy the arb!

Pm.

[QUOTE=Questner;2919805]Those who don't need cash change.

Just recently 1,000 ARS notes south of the border were enough, but here comes Polyphemus:

[URL]https://www.bcra.gob.ar/micrositios/Micrositio-billete-10000-pesos-del-Valle-Belgrano-i.asp[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2919999]That heroic figure is just $11, soon to be much less. Poor people, decades of corruption. But the good news is that Netflix and other services are hugely discounted if you use a VPN and / or get a ARS debit card. Not that you need to, BR is quite competitive compared to rip-off USA suckers (same with health care, hookers and everything else).

Enjoy the arb!

Pm.[/QUOTE]True point to the conversation is not to accept by mistake an obsolete 500 Cruzeiros banknote.

The bank needs to lower costs on the issue of banknotes. There is huge demand for cash in agriculture, mining and all illicit activities.

Man, that is so true.

Not a day goes by that I don't get hit with I don't have change.

I was at a Surf hostel last week, and they didn't have change for a 20, much less a 50.

They ended up taking 2 reais notes for a coffee at a discount.

I am totally sick of this broke ass, we don't have cash society because everyone is in fear of gettting robbed. But the bus drivers want their. 30 centavos in the 4. 30 fare.

So sick of broke brazilians I can't even describe.

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2919741]Who would want it when nobody has change for a 100 anyway?[/QUOTE]

Hear hear!

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2919759]Women are ruled by their looks, overt sexuality men go bananas over and their uterus. This applies to the lowest crack ho to the intelligent professionals, and furthermore there is time limit on looks and fertility. Women rationally use loosely defined "love", sex and finally children to secure the man, not always successfully. This traps a lot of men into disadvantage and especially in the USA where the entire legal system and economy is centered on the production of new economic units (babies) variously for labor, taxation, canon fodder in wars and consumption of consumer baubles and as debt slaves for banks. That's the truth of the trade. Women are part of the glue and many see men as their legally protected meal ticket. It's not that women are bad, they too are prisoners and (generally reluctantly) have to act and dress in a certain way to avoid being labelled as a ugly * or pushy. They also face a huge risk of sexual assault just walking the streets..[/QUOTE]

What are other good mongering places other that Rio and SP? In a priority order and why?

Looking for more Branca type girls.

Curitiba.

Porto Alegro.

Fortalezza.

Florinapolis.

Belo Horizonte / Minas Gerais.

Reciefe.

Any expert recommendations? With some location / place guidance. Anything comfortable like Rio's termas (don't have to be a terma, but a place to sit, review, drink up, etc. ,) and I am aware there is NO place like Scandallo. But any lower version of this concept?

Like to expand beyond SP and RIO before I get too old.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2921443]What are other good mongering places other that Rio and SP? In a priority order and why?

Looking for more Branca type girls.

Curitiba.

Porto Alegro.

Fortalezza.

Florinapolis.

Belo Horizonte / Minas Gerais.

Reciefe.

Any expert recommendations? With some location / place guidance. Anything comfortable like Rio's termas (don't have to be a terma, but a place to sit, review, drink up, etc. ,) and I am aware there is NO place like Scandallo. But any lower version of this concept?

Like to expand beyond SP and RIO before I get too old.[/QUOTE]There was a post by Sperto on what he liked and graded.

You can search by the amount of providers, here is a good tool to see where is the action:

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/cidades[/URL]

Porto Alegre has to wait until the city gets over the flooding.

I can't report on Belo Horizonte, but I suspect it might be a winner.

[QUOTE=Questner;2921474]There was a post by Sperto on what he liked and graded.[/QUOTE]My ranking was made 2006. Lot of things have changed in these 18 years. Still I would propably rank the capitals quite similar today.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?573-Other-Areas&p=532479&highlight=ranking[/URL]#post532479.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2921443]What are other good mongering places other that Rio and SP? In a priority order and why?

Looking for more Branca type girls.

Curitiba.

Porto Alegro.

Fortalezza.

Florinapolis.

Belo Horizonte / Minas Gerais.

Reciefe.

Any expert recommendations? With some location / place guidance. Anything comfortable like Rio's termas (don't have to be a terma, but a place to sit, review, drink up, etc. ,) and I am aware there is NO place like Scandallo. But any lower version of this concept?

Like to expand beyond SP and RIO before I get too old.[/QUOTE]I had a trip to Santa Catarina earlier this year. But, I don't use strip clubs; I bring girls back to my room instead. You can find lots of young students there looking for money, but they tend not to stick around for very long. Recife is very dangerous. A lot of street crime, and the beaches are a hot spot for shark attacks. I don't suggest visiting that city for any reason; it's just begging for trouble. I saw tons of ads for Curitiba, but Parana was too far away from where I was staying. But I imagine that city is your best bet.

I am in an Airbnb spot near Lips hotel in Centro. The leisurely walk to building 156 is about 5 minutes.

I had another solid session with massage places located in the building. Two young beauty garotas, hour session for double deepthroat threesome for $400 reais is an affordable, repeat price point. This time there was no need to stop by security in building 156 to pickup a entrance card.

It seems they are installing a high tech facial recognition system to enter the turnstiles to gain access to the elevators.

Slight rant * in my opinion, these facial tracking systems are becoming more prevalent in hotels, and other buildings in brasil.

In the you. In the US I went thru three facials systems just to take a flight Clear, TSA and Boarding the plane.

Facials systems to get some Pussy is on another level. *rant off.

Back to the plot, after a nice evening session in Branco 156, hustled quickly on the path back to the airbnb.

I walked bristpast Bradesco bank at 6. 45 pm and unconsciously noticed a short line of people inside inside of the ATMs. Thought nothing of the scene, kept walking to get off centro street before late night darkness.

Somewhere in the my brain went into tiltwhoa rewind. What did see? A Bradesco bank open late. Hmm.

The feet automatically stopped in its tracks, doing ballerina you-turn. I walked back a few paces, stood there with my nose planted on the outside the bank, smearing the windowed pained glass. Felt like Spock processing illogical information, wondering if this a mirage?

I focused on the door. Deciding to give a gentle tug. Thinking, its probably locked and closed. I apply pressure, open the door swoosh. Inside the Bradesco bank ATM at 7 pm. Best yet the machine ATM works! Damn it, feels like striking gold, finding a gem in the muck and mire of brazilian ATMs. Info that's been around all this time and, it didn't register until now.

The Bradesco Bank ATM on the same block as the General Quarters of the Militar Policia is open to 9 pm. The google address.

Are. Evaristo the Veiga, 264 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ. Not sure how I missed this gem, merely two blocks away from the airbnb.

Yet another thing wished I knew earlier a late night, secure Bradesco Bank ATMs open late.

YMMV your experience may vary, your experience might be different. The Bank and ATM might be closed or not working when you visit or long ass line, only sharing my experience and how I like to roll.

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule.

These are few prives / termas / clubs that I had some decent actions in. All with walking distance: (I may reply on others' posts and questions if needed about other locations).

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 r, 30 min 170 r. I had several nice sessions incl BBBJ and surprised by some great massages as well. Very clean room and new sheet placed in front of you with hot / clean shower. Girls range from 5-9 in terms of quality.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 r, 30 min 140 r. Slightly lower quality vs Duda hence the lower price but not bad. Girls quality 5-7.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. Didn't like the rooms and the only 3 girls from the lineup, cheaper than the above if you wish to try. There are many other places in that same building but didn't go. Quality 4-5.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better. Tight and fuckd till she bled. Or may have been her period that I knocked back on at the end. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. 1 h 140 r, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL.

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417 Centro. 1 h 200 r, only 3 girls, two were solid 8+. Had one hell of a session and a spectacular BBBJ, we had great chemistry and then went back few times for that same girl. Almost took her out to dinner. Must go. Quality 6-8. Same building has other spots.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 r, 30 minutes standard room is 350 r. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 r+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 r and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session. Average rooms, fair drink pricings.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de Sá, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 150 r, 1 h 300 r. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 r which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+. Went there several times w buddies and had a blast. If a group of bros walk in they'll play hip hop and reggae music and a good vibe when all the girls come to dance. Few blocks on same Road is a sis club by same owner called UPBAR NIGHT CLUB this one mostly open on weekends. The same girls rotate between the two.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 170 r. Not a bad club but didn't like the lineup and may have gone at the wrong time.

MABS. Copacabana restaurant / bar. Address in Gmap. Only went there to drink and chatted thew few girls and got some numbers, girls usually ask 400-500 r and will come down to 300-350 r. May worth it since these girls will dine w you and spend more time in your hotel / apt, mult pops if they like you so it is what it is.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424, Also easy to find in Gmap, Copacabana famous pickup night club. Went and had lots of fun. Drinks arent as pricey as the reviews say in fact I had a double black label JW whiskey that I paid 70 r total and expected to pay twice that amt. Even some non-tourist clubs charge more for that. But then, they still overcharge my CC, and their reviews got that part right. So only pay in cash in this place if you can LOL. Total cost of drinks for my girl and I was 380 r incl a 70 r entry fee and tip, and they charged me 465 r. Disputed the diff with my bank and should be easy since my receipt says 380 r. Geesh. I thought the negative reviews on that place were exaggerating but damn. Besides that, girl pricing will range from 400 r to 600 r depending on the girl, or how you look LOL.

This is a club only and girls are freelancers so you must take her with you and negotiate. My ego spiked when I got quoted 300 r an HR with one LOL, but she wasnt my type. The one I hooked up with was 500 r but spent the night. Chemistry was insane like I had found a wife. Range in the club 5-9. Go early cause you know the fresh gringos do snatch the real beauties quickly. I think it's worth 500-700 r or whatever they ask here. Because she'll be spending an hour or two already in the club with you dancing, feeling on you and having a good time, plus the time in your room and usually for the remainder of the night. I'm cheap but I spend on value LOL. This place overall is fun, or a little heaven if you like music and enjoy dancing. Total damage 380 r + 500 r + food + taxi = 1000 r. With all my of my $20 centro pornstar bangs I can afford to spend $200 usd occasionally LOL.

EDEN SPA. Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Sessioned in both places and very average, both times I didn't get a BBBJ. Girl at 302 said she didn't do that at all, at 401 girl said had a toothache or some BS. So didn't go again. I think they chose and select who to do that for here. Or most guys who get it interview the girls first to ask and the girl would say yes as a condition to be picked. I haven't done this anywhere, which I notice is a thing here in Brazil hence why they have the girls come and introduce themselves one by one, and my entire stay here I never assumed it was for a mini interview. I assume some gringos write that shit in their phone already translated and ask the girl if they suck dick raw, yes or no and if yes they consider picking them. I think the locals do the same based on reviews. Oh well. Pricing 200 r or 180 r for the HR, and 140/170 r for 30 mins didn't recall which one, didn't care since not going back LOL. 5-7 quality.

EURO RIO SPA. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 - sala 329 - Barra the Tijuca. 1 h 170 r. 30 min 140 r. Great quality 6-8. It's a good thing they open on saturdays, but do yourself a favor and only go during the weekdays normal hours. The girl who opend the door one weekend came in nude, said only herself was avail as a way to earn my biz and I said ok. Then offered anal during the session and I only accepted cause I thought she wanted that. Then at the end she wanted to add an extra 100 r for the anal. I laughed and told her don't try to rob me, you shouldve told me there's a cost. Plus I didn't ask, you asked me as if its something you wanted, it's part of sex and I won't pay extra and was firm. Then she said ok just pay her the 170. She wanted to get more claiming we did 40 minutes when we only did 30. Thing is pricings are already on their site so I didn't ask, and she didn't make me pay first as usual, hence her anal trick lmao. Too bad your boi's a degenerate perv filthy monger and no amateur. I did smash that booty hole hard and she claimed I pounded her hard, even made a gesture of wham wham wham. LOL. So I felt bad and gave her a total of 230 instead of the 270 she wanted. No big deal since was a nice session. Branca, full of tats, nice ass, about 30 yrs old, nice tits.

One of the things I do when I get really freaky and feeling a girl, is that I throw her to the wall at the some point, they immediately stand on tippy toes, my left hand on their waist, right hand grabs the neck, and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft. The taller they are the better and I go nuts. Wild sex act works well on Brazillian women and they get turned on by it. Usually in the prives that offer a massage first, I usually surprise them by grabbing them to start making out instead of laying down to get a massage first as they ask. They'd fix the bed, grab oil and ask me to lay, and instead I say come here, pulled them toward me while standing and start kissing and immediately start fingering, pussy eating, turn them against the wall for spanking, and they'd start moaning like mmm, mmm, eyes closed. You can tell they love it and they'd ask for more. Sometimes you have to bring it out of them and there's nothing like surprises or being unique to a woman.

THE BEST. Every country or major city I've been to, I always end up discovering a gem, a secret. And my friend here I introduce to you:

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.

So you're heading out?

Fair winds and following seas. Some funny stuff here. My nicely curved shaft. Send that into penthouse letters. How do I nominate this for reports of distinction?

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule.

These are few prives / termas / clubs that I had some decent actions in. All with walking distance: (I may reply on others' posts and questions if needed about other locations).

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 r, 30 min 170 r. I had several nice sessions incl BBBJ and surprised by some great massages as well. Very clean room and new sheet placed in front of you with hot / clean shower. Girls range from 5-9 in terms of quality.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 r, 30 min 140 r. Slightly lower quality vs Duda hence the lower price but not bad. Girls quality 5-7.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. Didn't like the rooms and the only 3 girls from the lineup, cheaper than the above if you wish to try. There are many other places in that same building but didn't go. Quality 4-5.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better. Tight and fuckd till she bled. Or may have been her period that I knocked back on at the end. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. 1 h 140 r, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL.

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417 Centro. 1 h 200 r, only 3 girls, two were solid 8+. Had one hell of a session and a spectacular BBBJ, we had great chemistry and then went back few times for that same girl. Almost took her out to dinner. Must go. Quality 6-8. Same building has other spots.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 r, 30 minutes standard room is 350 r. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 r+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 r and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session. Average rooms, fair drink pricings.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de S, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 150 r, 1 h 300 r. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 r which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+. Went there several times w buddies and had a blast. If a group of bros walk in they'll play hip hop and reggae music and a good vibe when all the girls come to dance. Few blocks on same Road is a sis club by same owner called UPBAR NIGHT CLUB this one mostly open on weekends. The same girls rotate between the two.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 170 r. Not a bad club but didn't like the lineup and may have gone at the wrong time.

MABS. Copacabana restaurant / bar. Address in Gmap. Only went there to drink and chatted thew few girls and got some numbers, girls usually ask 400-500 r and will come down to 300-350 r. May worth it since these girls will dine w you and spend more time in your hotel / apt, mult pops if they like you so it is what it is.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424, Also easy to find in Gmap, Copacabana famous pickup night club. Went and had lots of fun. Drinks arent as pricey as the reviews say in fact I had a double black label JW whiskey that I paid 70 r total and expected to pay twice that amt. Even some non-tourist clubs charge more for that. But then, they still overcharge my CC, and their reviews got that part right. So only pay in cash in this place if you can LOL. Total cost of drinks for my girl and I was 380 r incl a 70 r entry fee and tip, and they charged me 465 r. Disputed the diff with my bank and should be easy since my receipt says 380 r. Geesh. I thought the negative reviews on that place were exaggerating but damn. Besides that, girl pricing will range from 400 r to 600 r depending on the girl, or how you look LOL.

This is a club only and girls are freelancers so you must take her with you and negotiate. My ego spiked when I got quoted 300 r an HR with one LOL, but she wasnt my type. The one I hooked up with was 500 r but spent the night. Chemistry was insane like I had found a wife. Range in the club 5-9. Go early cause you know the fresh gringos do snatch the real beauties quickly. I think it's worth 500-700 r or whatever they ask here. Because she'll be spending an hour or two already in the club with you dancing, feeling on you and having a good time, plus the time in your room and usually for the remainder of the night. I'm cheap but I spend on value LOL. This place overall is fun, or a little heaven if you like music and enjoy dancing. Total damage 380 r + 500 r + food + taxi = 1000 r. With all my of my $20 centro pornstar bangs I can afford to spend $200 usd occasionally LOL.

EDEN SPA. Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Sessioned in both places and very average, both times I didn't get a BBBJ. Girl at 302 said she didn't do that at all, at 401 girl said had a toothache or some BS. So didn't go again. I think they chose and select who to do that for here. Or most guys who get it interview the girls first to ask and the girl would say yes as a condition to be picked. I haven't done this anywhere, which I notice is a thing here in Brazil hence why they have the girls come and introduce themselves one by one, and my entire stay here I never assumed it was for a mini interview. I assume some gringos write that shit in their phone already translated and ask the girl if they suck dick raw, yes or no and if yes they consider picking them. I think the locals do the same based on reviews. Oh well. Pricing 200 r or 180 r for the HR, and 140/170 r for 30 mins didn't recall which one, didn't care since not going back LOL. 5-7 quality.

EURO RIO SPA. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 - sala 329 - Barra the Tijuca. 1 h 170 r. 30 min 140 r. Great quality 6-8. It's a good thing they open on saturdays, but do yourself a favor and only go during the weekdays normal hours. The girl who opend the door one weekend came in nude, said only herself was avail as a way to earn my biz and I said ok. Then offered anal during the session and I only accepted cause I thought she wanted that. Then at the end she wanted to add an extra 100 r for the anal. I laughed and told her don't try to rob me, you shouldve told me there's a cost. Plus I didn't ask, you asked me as if its something you wanted, it's part of sex and I won't pay extra and was firm. Then she said ok just pay her the 170. She wanted to get more claiming we did 40 minutes when we only did 30. Thing is pricings are already on their site so I didn't ask, and she didn't make me pay first as usual, hence her anal trick lmao. Too bad your boi's a degenerate perv filthy monger and no amateur. I did smash that booty hole hard and she claimed I pounded her hard, even made a gesture of wham wham wham. LOL. So I felt bad and gave her a total of 230 instead of the 270 she wanted. No big deal since was a nice session. Branca, full of tats, nice ass, about 30 yrs old, nice tits.

One of the things I do when I get really freaky and feeling a girl, is that I throw her to the wall at the some point, they immediately stand on tippy toes, my left hand on their waist, right hand grabs the neck, and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft. The taller they are the better and I go nuts. Wild sex act works well on Brazillian women and they get turned on by it. Usually in the prives that offer a massage first, I usually surprise them by grabbing them to start making out instead of laying down to get a massage first as they ask. They'd fix the bed, grab oil and ask me to lay, and instead I say come here, pulled them toward me while standing and start kissing and immediately start fingering, pussy eating, turn them against the wall for spanking, and they'd start moaning like mmm, mmm, eyes closed. You can tell they love it and they'd ask for more. Sometimes you have to bring it out of them and there's nothing like surprises or being unique to a woman.

THE BEST. Every country or major city I've been to, I always end up discovering a gem, a secret. And my friend here I introduce to you:

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2922044]So you're heading out?

Fair winds and following seas. Some funny stuff here. My nicely curved shaft. Send that into penthouse letters. How do I nominate this for reports of distinction?[/QUOTE]What up VagaB!

LOL Yeah man. Group trip pre-planned elsewhere otherwise would stick around. Didn't even check out SP and other areas I wanted to yet. Someone gave me a contact for visa assistance so will work on that for a longer 1-2 yr stay next round. Brazil is a pussy headquarter. Of course unless I make my way to Thailand after Col and the Shaft somehow gets pussy whipped there.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]......and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft........[/QUOTE]Yours is curved upwards? Cool. Mine is curved sideways.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better.[/QUOTE]Got damn that had to be some banging branca booty hole right there! Nah, there aren't any white girls plying it in Brazil! Not at all! Not ever! [B]Aaahahahaha[/B]! Can't wait to get back down there. Well my time is a coming. Big time! Believe this.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:[/QUOTE]Fantastic report, thanks!

Vagabundo was just in bel prazer last week getting some. Deets omitted to protect the providers from breaking house rules, but generally, a top tier facility the in terms of room being clean, clean sheets, towels, etc, and the only downside being if the girl smokes nicotine in the room, but the other services make up for that. Too many good options in centro, actually more than enough to keep coming back.

[QUOTE=tTheCane;2922247]Got damn that had to be some banging branca booty hole right there! Nah, there aren't any white girls plying it in Brazil! Not at all! Not ever! [B]Aaahahahaha[/B]! Can't wait to get back down there. Well my time is a coming. Big time! Believe this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule..[/QUOTE]Very informative and a great report.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule.

These are few prives / termas / clubs that I had some decent actions in. All with walking distance: (I may reply on others' posts and questions if needed about other locations).

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 r, 30 min 170 r. I had several nice sessions incl BBBJ and surprised by some great massages as well. Very clean room and new sheet placed in front of you with hot / clean shower. Girls range from 5-9 in terms of quality.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 r, 30 min 140 r. Slightly lower quality vs Duda hence the lower price but not bad. Girls quality 5-7.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. Didn't like the rooms and the only 3 girls from the lineup, cheaper than the above if you wish to try. There are many other places in that same building but didn't go. Quality 4-5.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better. Tight and fuckd till she bled. Or may have been her period that I knocked back on at the end. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. 1 h 140 r, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL.

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417 Centro. 1 h 200 r, only 3 girls, two were solid 8+. Had one hell of a session and a spectacular BBBJ, we had great chemistry and then went back few times for that same girl. Almost took her out to dinner. Must go. Quality 6-8. Same building has other spots.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 r, 30 minutes standard room is 350 r. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 r+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 r and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session. Average rooms, fair drink pricings.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de S, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 150 r, 1 h 300 r. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 r which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+. Went there several times w buddies and had a blast. If a group of bros walk in they'll play hip hop and reggae music and a good vibe when all the girls come to dance. Few blocks on same Road is a sis club by same owner called UPBAR NIGHT CLUB this one mostly open on weekends. The same girls rotate between the two.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 170 r. Not a bad club but didn't like the lineup and may have gone at the wrong time.

MABS. Copacabana restaurant / bar. Address in Gmap. Only went there to drink and chatted thew few girls and got some numbers, girls usually ask 400-500 r and will come down to 300-350 r. May worth it since these girls will dine w you and spend more time in your hotel / apt, mult pops if they like you so it is what it is.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424, Also easy to find in Gmap, Copacabana famous pickup night club. Went and had lots of fun. Drinks arent as pricey as the reviews say in fact I had a double black label JW whiskey that I paid 70 r total and expected to pay twice that amt. Even some non-tourist clubs charge more for that. But then, they still overcharge my CC, and their reviews got that part right. So only pay in cash in this place if you can LOL. Total cost of drinks for my girl and I was 380 r incl a 70 r entry fee and tip, and they charged me 465 r. Disputed the diff with my bank and should be easy since my receipt says 380 r. Geesh. I thought the negative reviews on that place were exaggerating but damn. Besides that, girl pricing will range from 400 r to 600 r depending on the girl, or how you look LOL.

This is a club only and girls are freelancers so you must take her with you and negotiate. My ego spiked when I got quoted 300 r an HR with one LOL, but she wasnt my type. The one I hooked up with was 500 r but spent the night. Chemistry was insane like I had found a wife. Range in the club 5-9. Go early cause you know the fresh gringos do snatch the real beauties quickly. I think it's worth 500-700 r or whatever they ask here. Because she'll be spending an hour or two already in the club with you dancing, feeling on you and having a good time, plus the time in your room and usually for the remainder of the night. I'm cheap but I spend on value LOL. This place overall is fun, or a little heaven if you like music and enjoy dancing. Total damage 380 r + 500 r + food + taxi = 1000 r. With all my of my $20 centro pornstar bangs I can afford to spend $200 usd occasionally LOL.

EDEN SPA. Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Sessioned in both places and very average, both times I didn't get a BBBJ. Girl at 302 said she didn't do that at all, at 401 girl said had a toothache or some BS. So didn't go again. I think they chose and select who to do that for here. Or most guys who get it interview the girls first to ask and the girl would say yes as a condition to be picked. I haven't done this anywhere, which I notice is a thing here in Brazil hence why they have the girls come and introduce themselves one by one, and my entire stay here I never assumed it was for a mini interview. I assume some gringos write that shit in their phone already translated and ask the girl if they suck dick raw, yes or no and if yes they consider picking them. I think the locals do the same based on reviews. Oh well. Pricing 200 r or 180 r for the HR, and 140/170 r for 30 mins didn't recall which one, didn't care since not going back LOL. 5-7 quality.

EURO RIO SPA. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 - sala 329 - Barra the Tijuca. 1 h 170 r. 30 min 140 r. Great quality 6-8. It's a good thing they open on saturdays, but do yourself a favor and only go during the weekdays normal hours. The girl who opend the door one weekend came in nude, said only herself was avail as a way to earn my biz and I said ok. Then offered anal during the session and I only accepted cause I thought she wanted that. Then at the end she wanted to add an extra 100 r for the anal. I laughed and told her don't try to rob me, you shouldve told me there's a cost. Plus I didn't ask, you asked me as if its something you wanted, it's part of sex and I won't pay extra and was firm. Then she said ok just pay her the 170. She wanted to get more claiming we did 40 minutes when we only did 30. Thing is pricings are already on their site so I didn't ask, and she didn't make me pay first as usual, hence her anal trick lmao. Too bad your boi's a degenerate perv filthy monger and no amateur. I did smash that booty hole hard and she claimed I pounded her hard, even made a gesture of wham wham wham. LOL. So I felt bad and gave her a total of 230 instead of the 270 she wanted. No big deal since was a nice session. Branca, full of tats, nice ass, about 30 yrs old, nice tits.

One of the things I do when I get really freaky and feeling a girl, is that I throw her to the wall at the some point, they immediately stand on tippy toes, my left hand on their waist, right hand grabs the neck, and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft. The taller they are the better and I go nuts. Wild sex act works well on Brazillian women and they get turned on by it. Usually in the prives that offer a massage first, I usually surprise them by grabbing them to start making out instead of laying down to get a massage first as they ask. They'd fix the bed, grab oil and ask me to lay, and instead I say come here, pulled them toward me while standing and start kissing and immediately start fingering, pussy eating, turn them against the wall for spanking, and they'd start moaning like mmm, mmm, eyes closed. You can tell they love it and they'd ask for more. Sometimes you have to bring it out of them and there's nothing like surprises or being unique to a woman.

THE BEST. Every country or major city I've been to, I always end up discovering a gem, a secret. And my friend here I introduce to you:

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.[/QUOTE]Outstanding intel, Mr. MT! If I ever get back to Rio (from PI) I will take advantage of your fine work here. Gostoza!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2922247]Got damn that had to be some banging branca booty hole right there! Nah, there aren't any white girls plying it in Brazil! Not at all! Not ever! [B]Aaahahahaha[/B]! Can't wait to get back down there. Well my time is a coming. Big time! Believe this.[/QUOTE]Never did understand the big ass fetish but then again I get criticized for my addiction to big boobs. To each his own.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:[/QUOTE]Good, detailed report. Useful and actionable information for all members.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2922634]Good, detailed report. Useful and actionable information for all members.[/QUOTE]I appreciate all the Kudos. I try to contribute when I can. Rio definitely exceeded my expectations. I'm in town for about 8 more days then going to make plan to come back ASAP to explore other areas near Rio and other states. Few locals told me that I must visit these small towns: Buzios, Arraial do cabo, Angra dos Reis, and Paraty. When I glance at the photos they look like mini paradises. Brazil is such a beautiful country with amazing vibe, culture, music, food. Girls are so nice with GFE makes you want to propose, sleep with a smile LOL. Had a session today DFK BBBJ BBFS, she sucked me dry in 69 and still was trying to drink my blood after I had no milk left. When we finished she offered a massage, then offered to take me out to dinner. I said sure "as friends" and she corrected me "as lovers" why not. Man, but no worries I just play along for the moment and the memories.

This is a place to consider long-term or a base for sure, especially in these quiet municipal towns. Hands down one of my best trips.

Dude solid recommendation on Nina. She is a damn fire cracker! Bel prazer is essy access building. Walked right to the elevators without going to security ID check like 156 branco rio.

Asked Nina to select another amgia garota for our duplo session.

Almost got the forista rate but my gpguia account didn't have up to date reviews there. Still its slightly less expensive than Dudas massage.

Took Nina to VIPs love motel with ocean views and Panda with pool and stripper pole. Nina is damn fun. Why'all book her time after I leave. Haha.

My sessions with her and amiga garotas are three hours back to back.

YMMV your experience may vary, your bel prazer routine may vary, and experience is different. Sharing mine.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:




CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.[/QUOTE]Fantastic report. How is the Realengo neighborhood where Club das Flores is located? I'm always a bit hesitant about heading into areas I know nothing about and I've been nowhere near that area.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2922821]Dude solid recommendation on Nina. She is a damn fire cracker! Bel prazer is essy access building. Walked right to the elevators without going to security ID check like 156 branco rio.

Asked Nina to select another amgia garota for our duplo session.

Almost got the forista rate but my gpguia account didn't have up to date reviews there. Still its slightly less expensive than Dudas massage.

Took Nina to VIPs love motel with ocean views and Panda with pool and stripper pole. Nina is damn fun. Why'all book her time after I leave. Haha.

My sessions with her and amiga garotas are three hours back to back.

YMMV your experience may vary, your bel prazer routine may vary, and experience is different. Sharing mine.[/QUOTE]I know who Nina is and didn't session with her. The one in my reference was Mia LOL. Short hair branca, slighly thic and nicely shaped body and rear end. Both girls are hot. The one thing I haven't done is a duplo session, I don't know why I haven't.

[QUOTE=Combo;2922824]Fantastic report. How is the Realengo neighborhood where Club das Flores is located? I'm always a bit hesitant about heading into areas I know nothing about and I've been nowhere near that area.[/QUOTE]It's actually a very nice neighborhood, west side of Rio, flat surface and not a favela or anything. Considered to be a low mid-class town.

The front of the club is well lighted and you could easily walk nearby even at 5 am. A block away from it is another club called Babylon, which I heard great things about, fewer girls but didn't get the chance to go in that one yet. As I was leaving in my Uber and I was looking around and said to myself I wouldn't mind an airbnb close to here for few days in a future trip.

[QUOTE=DCups;2922534]Never did understand the big ass fetish but then again I get criticized for my addiction to big boobs. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Big bundas in Brazil is a sign of African ancestry in spite of skin color. A Brazilian once told me that if you shake the family tree of many 'white' Brazilians a lot of black fruit will fall. I don't like them too big like that but I do like them rotund.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2923013]Big bundas in Brazil is a sign of African ancestry in spite of skin color. A Brazilian once told me that if you shake the family tree of many 'white' Brazilians a lot of black fruit will fall. I don't like them too big like that but I do like them rotund.[/QUOTE]So what accounts for Alexis Texas' big round butt then, and other American white girls like her? A white chick can't have a big ass unless she has some African ancestry? Or somehow what you say only mysteriously applies to Brazilian white girls and the answer is something totally different for North American white girls? I say without any proof regarding anyone's ancestry this is just a bunch of surmise based on nothing but speculation. Which isn't the same thing as proof. What you happen to believe and [B]evidence[/B] are two different things.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2923019]So what accounts for Alexis Texas' big round butt then, and other American white girls like her? A white chick can't have a big ass unless she has some African ancestry? Or somehow what you say only mysteriously applies to Brazilian white girls and the answer is something totally different for North American white girls? I say without any proof regarding anyone's ancestry this is just a bunch of surmise based on nothing but speculation. Which isn't the same thing as proof. What you happen to believe and [B]evidence[/B] are two different things.[/QUOTE]Cool down Cane, why so angry? Nothing wrong with banging hot white chicks with African antecedents. I do it all the time, and as Maxwell Smart used to say - 'and loving it'. LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2923239]Cool down Cane, why so angry? Nothing wrong with banging hot white chicks with African antecedents. I do it all the time, and as Maxwell Smart used to say - 'and loving it'. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am cool. And nobody said anything was wrong with it. And I note you didn't answer the question. Tired of over generalizations based on what you "think" you know when you actually don't know anything factual about these people's ancestry. Nothing.

Well another Sunday afternoon in botafogo Panda with three sexy muluta Meghan Markel Larinha Smalls types garotas from Bel Prazer, Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlos. In Panda the Myknos and Presidential suites sport an indoor private pool.

The uber ride from Centro to Panda Botafogo was a unique first for me. Probably happens all the time to you brasil veterans but I was amazed to be picked up by hot garota de programme GDP Uber driver.

An outstanding beautiful, sundrenched tanned blonde wearing a bright luminous red bikini. Sheetz ifirst thought she's a trap car don't get in.

I double checked everything matched the uber app and said fuck it before hoping in for the brief 15 min Sunday afternoon ride. Wow I was hoping like hell we run into traffic.

She smelled sexy good, great conversation. Confirmed she works in one of the termas. We never session though. I gave her five stars and a tip.

Damn where to selectb the Uber + Branca Loria service in future. Haha only in Brasil a GDP as uber driver.

YMMV your uber experience may vary, your Sunday routine may vary, and experience is different. Sharing mine.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922927]It's actually a very nice neighborhood, west side of Rio, flat surface and not a favela or anything. Considered to be a low mid-class town.

The front of the club is well lighted and you could easily walk nearby even at 5 am. A block away from it is another club called Babylon, which I heard great things about, fewer girls but didn't get the chance to go in that one yet. As I was leaving in my Uber and I was looking around and said to myself I wouldn't mind an airbnb close to here for few days in a future trip.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I saw it looked close to Bangu (supposedly a very bad area) on the map which made me think it would be dangerous. But I guess Rocinha and Vidigal are close to Ipanema (real close!). So can't judge by that.

Did you get her whatsapp number?

That would be the first thing that former Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss navy, would have done.

Here are your lines in a uber.

Voce carioca the gema? (are you a authentic Rio de Janeiro native?

She says yes, sim.

You say, eu sou carioca do fake or eu sou carioca do falsa.

She laughs.

You stick your phone in her face, or you ask and put down her number.

Now, in Brazil car sex is a big part of the culture.

Now you call that hoar driver and haver take ya to praia abrico and on the way in and out you get a little in and out and swing know what I mean.

Well played.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2923325]Well anlother Sunday afternoon in botafogo Panda with three sexy muluta Meghan Markel Larinha Smalls types garotas from Bel Prazer, Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlos. In Panda the Myknos and Presidential suites sport an indoor private pool.

The uber ride from Centro to Panda Botafogo was a unique first for me. Probably happens all the time to you brasil veterans but I was amazed to be picked up by hot garota de programme GDP Uber driver.

An outstanding beautiful, sundrenched tanned blonde wearing a bright luminous red bikini. Sheetz ifirst thought she's a trap car don't get in.

I double checked everything matched the uber app and said fuck it before hoping in for the brief 15 min Sunday afternoon ride. Wow I was hoping like hell we run into traffic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2923596]Did you get her whatsapp number?

That would be the first thing that former Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss navy, would have done.

Here are your lines in a uber.

Voce carioca the gema? (are you a authentic Rio de Janeiro native?

She says yes, sim.

You say, eu sou carioca do fake or eu sou carioca do falsa.

She laughs.

You stick your phone in her face, or you ask and put down her number.

Now, in Brazil car sex is a big part of the culture.

Now you call that hoar driver and haver take ya to praia abrico and on the way in and out you get a little in and out and swing know what I mean.

Well played.[/QUOTE]That is a brilliant funny pickup line Rsrs definitely will use in the future. Yes sir! Got her wassap to chat and meetup outside of uber driving. I didn't mess around when she was in uber driving mode. They have all those safety protocols to ban idiot passengers with female drivers. I prefer not get kicked off the platform.

I checked my rating last month only to find eleven one star uber ratings, eleven 1* stars from drivers. WTF couldn't believe it until remembered those DR chicas.

I used call an uber car or uber moto to drop her ass off someplace close to metro or in her neighborhood. Damn chicas act a fool in uber car with her amigas chicas, drunk, loud and stupid. The driver runs out of patience, gives the ride one star * lesson learned no more chicas or garotas riding on my uber tab.

So, the names of the guilty party will be redacted to avoid any repurcussioins.

Vagabundo gets to at velha. Havana, Velha Havana, after a nice ride on the luxury bus. That much is fine. Good internet. Good call for work as a lawyer back in Switzerland. Thank god and praise allah that people are always fucking over other people and they need good voodoo educated lawyers who speak Romanch German French and Italian to unfuck or fuck over the guilty parties. Call goes well. AI is going to change discovery.

Vagabundo marks via zap for a session with a provider in a centro prive who barebacks for 50 r more.

He stows his extra gear in a locker which he rents for 100 r. Jimmy Boy will remember the Brazilian captain who recommended this sweet spot near Praca Maua, the museums there, and pedra do sol. He puts on sandals with velcro straps because he is a gear snob or gear fag as his mates in the swiss naval infantry used to call him due to all the gear, which is probably due to all the firefights with those dirty italian bastards not to mention a tour in the middle east supporting the Great Satan, Uncle Sam, in one of those expeditions to whack terrorists.

So anyway, get get into the room at the prive. And the *****, the hoar, the ****, the kunt, the stupid fucking brazilian broad -- lets see how much of that gets censored -- immediately goes into setenta reias mais for sem camisinha. And I am like, I already paid you 50 reais extra over the house fee. I put on Felipe Ret Revel as I usually do.

So in my brain which is connected to my hard dick which is in her pussy, I am translating shut the fuck up into portoguese, and her fucking mouth, which I am trying to kiss for deep french kissing keeps moving.

And this is why God and some sadist invented gags. To shut women up, lay there and get fucked, for the whole hour.

And then she is like bare back anal for 100 reais. So, I already paid her 50 extra, so I am like so 50 more, and she is saying 100 more. And I am saying no, 50 more.

What part of shut the fuck up do you not understand?

She takes me dick out of her pussy, which is a nice wet hot creamy pussy, and she starts to put it in her ass. Not that I really want to sodomize her anus. I generally like pussy better. Nice hot Latina 20 - 25 or even 20-30 year old pussy. But OK, I don't care about an extra 50. It is 10 dollars.

But then she takes my dick out of her pussy and puts it in her ass with some pain evidently by the look on her face. I am a mild sadist but I don't like to actually hurt women, and I certainly don't like causing pain by fucking a woman up the ass, so then she is like goza, cum. And I am like, relax, shut the fuck up, and stop trying to say now I am in debt to you for another 100 reais. I say something like Eu nao quero briga do dinheiro, and I certainly do not want to argue about money during sex. I just got off a internet call with a law firm in Lugano, Switzerland and some database provider about money, money, money, and I do not want to argue with a kunt about money, now while my dick is in your bare pussy.

But, she has a kid, and 50 reais is enough for her to not shut the fuck up. So, I lose my wood. It is the pain on her face. And it is the arguing over money.

Maybe I was dehydrated, or ate too much for breakfast -- the omlette and pao do quicho and toast at Velha havana, where I stowed my solomon trekking boots and laptop in the whiskey locker. But probably not, as just yesterday, I had a great session at another centro prive with Nani at Bel Prazer, all covered, wherein I fucked for a whole hour almost, with a condom on. Nani is Jimmy Boy approved, too. Nice hot little morena clara, a white girl or as white as it gets in South America, not white like my long blood line of Germanic Swiss princes and kings from Salzburg, from where my sainted mother a ex nun escaped with a Austrian navy captain during some world war last century, the details escape me but some of you will get the cinematic literary references.

I digress.

As I often do.

So, there I am, half way (20 minutes) through Felipe Ret' album, Revel. Which is so good that every Carioca I fuck loves it, shuts the fuck up, and lets me slide my bratwurst into her split fig of a vagina with not a word, just an extra 50 reais usually and plenty of lube, sometimes the sex toys (which nani loves, she squirts and cums and making a girl cum is itself a good thing, more on that, below).

So Vagabundo is 20 minutes through a session with a limp dick. I lose my wood because the kunt hoar would not shut the fuck up and let me fuck her perfectly nice pussy and begged for me to fuck her ass, then showed obvious pain but at the same time, said something about wanting more money, and at the same time said don't lube up my holes more because I am allergic to lube. WTF, over? Now, I have my dick in your ass, your face looks like I am shoving a broom stick up your ass and hammering it in with a sledgehammer, and you are asking me for money at the same time. Could I not just stick a gag in your mouth tie you up with the boxing wraps I keep in my chest pack because they double as bandages and hand protection for my muay thai later today, could you not just shut your stupid female mouth?

Civilization has declined precisely when men taught women to write read and speak. I am convinced.

So, I tell the kunt to chupa meu piroca.

I say it with some impatiance and she says, Oh you don't have patience. Vc nao ten pacienca?

I roll my eyes, I must give her vibes of perfect disdain. I try to ignore everything except for my finger up her ass, and eventually, even after Revel (40 minutes) ends, I get wood, I bend her over, I fuck her kunt, which is nice and smooth and hot, and I blow a big load between her legs or on her ass. I clean up, I give her 50 more, for a total of 250, and I vow never to repeat with her even though I can fuck her ass bare on command. Maybe if I can ball gag her so she will shut the fuck up first. No, not even that.

OK, now that I have purged my brain of this horrible fuck, I will move on.

On the upside, over the last few weeks, I have been averaging 1. 2 hours to. 5 hour of actual penis in vagina fucking per day with all the usual suspects, bare fucking an extension of jiu jitsu and muay thai, the hour long sessions twice weekly definitely improve my stamina, not the least of which because I like the runners high of workouts more than the high from cannibis or alcohol.

So it goes.

First off, thanks to all on this board for all of the detailed posts and information. I've been a lurker on these boards during my travels as usually you can only pick up a little information, and I don't typically do much so I wouldn't have much to share. This board is different.

I'm arriving in Copa on Sunday and staying for a few days. This is a business trip with frequent interactions with several coworkers, so my interest will be discretion. I've studied the boards and think I'm prepared (I'm probably not), but I did have one last question I hadn't seen.

Is there any preference for USA Cash vs local currency? I've been to a few areas where the dollar went further than the local notes, and you lose some in the transition anyway. I know to use an ATM and decline the conversion, but before I do that I thought I would ask. Are dollars useful in Copa??

[QUOTE=Travel980;2924695]First off, thanks to all on this board for all of the detailed posts and information. I've been a lurker on these boards during my travels as usually you can only pick up a little information, and I don't typically do much so I wouldn't have much to share. This board is different.

I'm arriving in Copa on Sunday and staying for a few days. This is a business trip with frequent interactions with several coworkers, so my interest will be discretion. I've studied the boards and think I'm prepared (I'm probably not), but I did have one last question I hadn't seen.

Is there any preference for USA Cash vs local currency? I've been to a few areas where the dollar went further than the local notes, and you lose some in the transition anyway. I know to use an ATM and decline the conversion, but before I do that I thought I would ask. Are dollars useful in Copa??[/QUOTE]No. Everything is in R and they consider $$ just a pain because they have to pay exchange fee. Buenos Aires is only place I've been where girls want $.

And yes ATM and decline is best rate but be forewarned most hotels don't have ATM and you don't want to get money at night really. Try to get Bradesco during day.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2924746]No. Everything is in R and they consider $$ just a pain because they have to pay exchange fee. Buenos Aires is only place I've been where girls want $.

And yes ATM and decline is best rate but be forewarned most hotels don't have ATM and you don't want to get money at night really. Try to get Bradesco during day.[/QUOTE]Yesterday the dang Bradesco ATM flashed a screen that specified a 12% conversion fee (on $100)! I almost accepted it because I wasn't paying close attention.

On Saturday went to Eden Spa Copacabana. Eden is listed in Google Maps with directions.

Next to Eden Spa, the Bradesco Banc has an ATM lobby open on Saturday at 6. 30 pm to use the ATM. Its in front of the bus stop, bunch a sketchy folks around.

Head on a swivel and don't use it late at night.

Entering the building is easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Up the elevator, room 401. Rang the buzzer. She half-ass welcomed me in WTF. I was slightly tipsy from earlier days drinking at Centro Dudas and Bel Praser, got to hit those spots early because they open at 9 am and close up by 1 pm or 2 pm on Saturday. Eden stays open later to 6 pm. I book in advance Jenifer and Lily for a threesome, four hands duplo session. That's a Good price $350 are for one hour, two chicas. Damn good price. Still, I asked for a forista discount. She said it's already discounted when a single garota is are $220 are. I showed the gpguia review. Nope, no dice. Fine, let's go. The rooms are small, with a shared bathroom like, Darkroom. Yeah, the sliding doors. The calls of "client coming through the hallway " reminded me of the darkroom.

For some odd reason, the receptionist and I didn't click on the same vibe. Paid in advance. It felt like the cold shoulder receptionist at Abbbora Clinica in SP.

The shower was quick, bringing all valuables into the shower room. Made my way back to the room.

I turned on music Filipe het, old school from back in the day when he was skinny singing about distant shores We only need us. It's the filipe het the music we played during barbecues back in the day.

In the bag, time to bring out a couple of ice-cold hedegebull Zero (redbull) cold Smirnoff ice, and good weed but there are no windows in the stupid room. A few cold stellas. Jenifer and I are rocking it in the room. She is an experienced playa. Gets the program. Young ass Lily's catching up. She is a third wheel. Half a mind to release her early. She trying her best though.

Session ends. Both are booked by other clients for the next hour. Oh well.

I went to reception to ask for a presentation. Sat in the small room in front of the fridge.

The first gal comes in **Boom ** everything changed. It's my gal from bel prazer, genuine hugs, it's been a few weeks, and she lost her phone, damn I am feeling better, we catch up talking, next Garota **Bang** she's from Dudas. Well Hello, dear! Third one from 156 Branco Rio. Now time to party for the next two hours.

The receptionist's attitude completely flipped once she saw the garotas in the lineup knew me. It was a completely different level of service.

I went with two of my favorites into the same room. This time blasted fucking music, smooke weed, drank, sport fuck, deepthroat, leche swallow, lesbian porno licking, they pull out their weird ass sex toys from Centro sex shop, multi deepthroat spray, strawberry lickables. Damn, Brasilia Garotas know the IoP playbook. Pop open their phones to show their private amateur sex videos on the privacy app. Two hours later it's closing time. 6 pm, exhausted, we are spent, half drunk, and got the munchies. Let's go eat at the Japanese buffet place nearby in Botafogo. Cool.

I gave them a nice tip in cash, no pix, I don't use pix will block ya ass at the first wassap pix message. Good time had by all.

YMMV your Eden room experience will be different, the garotas experience might be different, and the attitude of garotas and reception might be different. The evening Bradesco Banc ATM evening hours might be different from my Saturday evening experience. YMMV as repeat client or first timer, or if you have no Brasilia portugus to chat and be. S. With the garotas. Only sharing my experience.

What are, in your opinion, the best 5 or 10 private establishments in SP?

I enjoy a nice private casa, low pressure to choose, ability to hang out with the ladies and others on site. Amd eventually go your route.

I enjoy anything else particularly nice.

LI do like Casarao. Cafe photo and Scandallo are amazing, but expensive. It's worth it from time to time but risky given the cost.

What advice can you give me? Places to go? Ladies to see?

Thanks in advance and always report back!

[QUOTE=Tochka;2925315]On Saturday went to Eden Spa Copacabana. Eden is listed in Google Maps with directions.

Next to Eden Spa, the Bradesco Banc has an ATM lobby open on Saturday at 6. 30 pm to use the ATM. Its in front of the bus stop, bunch a sketchy folks around.

Head on a swivel and don't use it late at night.

Entering the building is easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Up the elevator, room 401. Rang the buzzer. She half-ass welcomed me in WTF. I was slightly tipsy from earlier days drinking at Centro Dudas and Bel Praser, got to hit those spots early because they open at 9 am and close up by 1 pm or 2 pm on Saturday. Eden stays open later to 6 pm. I book in advance Jenifer and Lily for a threesome, four hands duplo session. That's a Good price $350 are for one hour, two chicas. Damn good price. Still, I asked for a forista discount. She said it's already discounted when a single garota is are $220 are. I showed the gpguia review. Nope, no dice. Fine, let's go. The rooms are small, with a shared bathroom like, Darkroom. [/QUOTE]They have one large room at Eden. Better ask for it at the time you make a booking.

What time would you suggest is best to visit das Flores.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922003]

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Travel980;2924695]

Is there any preference for USA Cash vs local currency? I've been to a few areas where the dollar went further than the local notes, and you lose some in the transition anyway. I know to use an ATM and decline the conversion, but before I do that I thought I would ask. Are dollars useful in Copa??[/QUOTE]If you're bringing cash exchange your money at a 'Cambio' not in your hotel, I know everybody knows this but a few years ago I gave a girl a $100 bill and told her it's equal to 500 reais, next day she called me to complain she got much less, she exchanged in a hotel not a cambio. If you don't know any there's an American on Rua Xavier da Silvieira 15 called Blame it on Rio for travel, his name is Bobby, tell him Bobby sent you LOL. Last time I was there I exchanged $1,000 and asked for a better rate and they finally gave in for this larger amount, they may not discount for a few hundred. You can even rent a bike and get your clothes washed there among other things.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2927126]If you're bringing cash exchange your money at a 'Cambio' not in your hotel, I know everybody knows this but a few years ago I gave a girl a $100 bill and told her it's equal to 500 reais, next day she called me to complain she got much less, she exchanged in a hotel not a cambio. If you don't know any there's an American on Rua Xavier da Silvieira 15 called Blame it on Rio for travel, his name is Bobby, tell him Bobby sent you LOL. Last time I was there I exchanged $1,000 and asked for a better rate and they finally gave in for this larger amount, they may not discount for a few hundred. You can even rent a bike and get your clothes washed there among other things.[/QUOTE]I never exchanged money with Bobby because he always gave a bad rate. He tries to act like he's everyone's friend, then dicks you over on his rates! Then he had the gaul to come begging for money when his place got robbed (twice). There used to be a cambio right across the street that was much better and gave a fair rate (I don't know if it's still there). Blame it on Rio? No, blame it on yourself if you do business with Bobby and get a bad rate! These days I don't travel with lots of cash. It's pulling money out of an ATM as I need it, which is better than handling large sums of cash. Especially since my bank refunds all ATM transaction fees, foreign and domestic. No Bobby and no ATM fees LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2927172] These days I don't travel with lots of cash. It's pulling money out of an ATM as I need it, which is better than handling large sums of cash. Especially since my bank refunds all ATM transaction fees, foreign and domestic. No Bobby and no ATM fees LOL![/QUOTE]I agree, I get what I need from the ATM when needed.

I never paid much attention to the rate that was given when I used the ATM. So, the question is do you usually get better rate from ATM or Cambio exchange? What rates are the Bank ATMS giving in relation to the XE app rate?

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2927249]I agree, I get what I need from the ATM when needed.

I never paid much attention to the rate that was given when I used the ATM. So, the question is do you usually get better rate from ATM or Cambio exchange? What rates are the Bank ATMS giving in relation to the XE app rate?[/QUOTE]As long as you don't pay ATM fees or get credited for pulling cash, it will usually beat cambios even if slightly. That said, some cambios offer excellent rates that can easily compete with ATMs for new, crispy Benjamins when you exchange a lot. I use both methods as some ATMs have maddeningly low withdrawal limits.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2927265]As long as you don't pay ATM fees or get credited for pulling cash, it will usually beat cambios even if slightly. That said, some cambios offer excellent rates that can easily compete with ATMs for new, crispy Benjamins when you exchange a lot. I use both methods as some ATMs have maddeningly low withdrawal limits.[/QUOTE]In Brazil Bradesco works for me in terms of being to pull what I need.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2927172]I never exchanged money with Bobby because he always gave a bad rate. He tries to act like he's everyone's friend, then dicks you over on his rates! Then he had the gaul to come begging for money when his place got robbed (twice). There used to be a cambio right across the street that was much better and gave a fair rate (I don't know if it's still there). Blame it on Rio? No, blame it on yourself if you do business with Bobby and get a bad rate! These days I don't travel with lots of cash. It's pulling money out of an ATM as I need it, which is better than handling large sums of cash. Especially since my bank refunds all ATM transaction fees, foreign and domestic. No Bobby and no ATM fees LOL![/QUOTE]Bobby's is always my last stop, I went to the one across the street and he wouldn't budge for ten crisp Benjamin's with the blue stripe on it, without it you get less. So I went across the street and Bobby's employee gave me slightly better.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2927249]I agree, I get what I need from the ATM when needed.

I never paid much attention to the rate that was given when I used the ATM. So, the question is do you usually get better rate from ATM or Cambio exchange? What rates are the Bank ATMS giving in relation to the XE app rate?[/QUOTE]I remember back in 2003 or 2004 when the official rate was like 3. 96 but NONE of the fucking cambios would give you anything over 3. 50 R. For 2 years I had no choice but to use the Citibank ATMs in order to get the 3. 96 R. Now a days, you have to go to multiple cambios to see who has the best rate. I admit, it can be a pain in the ass to waste a couple of hours going from spot to spot to get an extra 3 cents. A fellow board member turned me on to Universal Cambio on Nossa Senhora (Near Copa Palace) about 3 years ago and I haven't been to a different cambio since. They consistently beat all the other cambios and I stick with them.

On a side note: I do notice that the cambios on the Club Help side of Copa usually give lower rates versus the cambios near the Copa Palace side of Copa. Not sure why.

The dollar is on a roll! Roughly:

THB 1000=USD 27 - expect to pay THB 1. 5 -3 k depending on time, quality etc.

BRL=USD 18 - ranges BRL 60 for barnyard rutting in a skanky cabin to BRL 400+ for marked up clubs / ripoff, but reliable stuff in decent surrounds for BRL 200.

Asia has lost its charm and is a wickedly long trip and time zone shift. There are flights from Europe to RIO / SP, such as Air Europa from Spain, TAP from Portugal, Air France and so on with 8 hour shift, and from the east coast Rio is a no brainer, especially for Atlanta and Miami.

Brasil has good investment opportunities and represents excellent value in medical tourism, high quality food and it is possible to find nice, clean beach towns at great prices once you skip Buzios and the touristy places. I have an awesome fly in / out routine from Long island Railroad- JFK - Rio, have a driver waiting to pick me up and dinner waiting with two regulars (zero games, discreet and non-transactional) who know my tastes, especially a morning coffee, BJ, two girls, balls gently fondled simultaneously and DFK kissing which they take turns swallowing me, heavy load down their throat (no spitting) followed by good, firm massage, a kiss and cuddle, and then a swim at the beach (hand in hand with two giggling and happy girls) and a good home breakfast. Because this is how life should be. I even take them with me up country, they carry thigh high fish nets, heels, frilly chemise, G-strings, feathers, blindfolds etc. Once when going through security, a dildo triggered a manual search. The female guard saw to travel kit and just laughed, smiled and winked at us, then we all laughed, made the trip so much fun. I LOVE this place.

Vagabundo hit Laura at Darkroom today for a solid 45 minutes of fucking and sucking, all covered. Vagabundo headed into centro on a metro, got some skyn condoms. It was a fun session all around, starting with 69, and then fucking in frango assado (her ass on a pillow, her pussy turned up to be ploughed). She vibed her clit and came. Vagabundo, being cruel, continued to plough her, and flipped her around for doggy style. He wrapped a towel around her waist, fucked her hard, spanked her ass with baby oil on it, loudly, which is a necessary thing for respect among the local fuckers and hoars, who like that kind of thing. She pleaded for a rest, and being magnanimous, Vagabundo granted a reprieve, for her to piss. She came back, and sucked, and 69 ed a little more to give her kunt some recovery, and then Vagabundo fucked her again in two positions, finally filling up the condom in doggy style. A good fuck. Felipe Ret, Revel was played throughout.

Yesterday, Vagabundo chronicled thusly on the local whatsapp group, where new nobleman fkers from the rich world have joined:

Vagabundo hit a hoar raw for 35 minutes in centro. Said nasty things like imma take you to swing and nude beach and bang you in public, and doncha want to fist that other girl. Ran out of batteries in the pink vibe jimmy boy took down to me. Lesson learned: always charge your USB vibe and carry recharge cable for your vibes. Romance.

That said, sex is not love. Marquez in Memories of my Melancholy hoars addresses this by saying something like you should not miss the experience of fking with love. The women that Vagabundo has loved this year are flying away, Eastbound, and he is sharpened both by their sadness of their loss and by happiness at having met them at least once, once here at the love shack, on the big sofa, 69 ing sweet blond nordic bundinha and buceta, and dancing for juninha with a Russian grinding on the most beautiful Carioca Morena, all English speaking, all with real lives, real careers, real futures -- reality which has inspired some of the local girls to step up their game and impress Vagabundo, who though cruel, is a ruler who wishes his women to become their best selves. Tomorrow, Amber Lynn's bare kunt with be spread, speared and spermed deep by Vagabundo, or perhaps it will be another lass, alas.

So it goes.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2927429]The dollar is on a roll! Roughly:

THB 1000=USD 27 - expect to pay THB 1. 5 -3 k depending on time, quality etc.

BRL=USD 18 - ranges BRL 60 for barnyard rutting in a skanky cabin to BRL 400+ for marked up clubs / ripoff, but reliable stuff in decent surrounds for BRL 200........[/QUOTE]Bangkok vs Rio? The million dollar question of the ages.

The one advantage I would say Asia has over Latin America is the ability of getting girls who would stay with you long time and clean your apartment and cook for you.

Walked a few minutes from my Airbnb spot which is one or two blocks from Quartel General the Polcia Militar do Estado in centro to visit Darkroom early afternoon. There is a talented, hardworking barbershop three doors down from the entrance of Edificio Patrimnio. Since the barbershop is nearest to Darkroom and it's open Saturday afternoons I stop by there to get a shapeup and smell barber clean fresh.

I keep my haircut photos on the phone to show barbers the style I like. One of the best experiences I had was at a moreno run barbershop in SP Moema on Miruna and Alameda.

The bros had their guitars, drums, and instruments in the shop. It was cool to hear the whole shop breakout rapping to Sabotage, Philipe Ret, and Delacruz while getting a bald drop fade with shape up.

Thanks to Vagabundo for several reports on the Darkroom penthouse.

The team lineup has so many young Negra and Morena beauties, offering all holes. They do whatever you want to invent, insert toys, dildos, fists, and other garotas tongues.

I did recoil slightly when a Garota accidentally puked on the other Garota's mouth while deepthroating and ball-licking at the same time. A stupid argument ensued about where she should puke next time. Haha, kkk. Now I grab the small bucket to place next to the bed.

Shit still cannot figure out why this one Garota, the Branca one that has a trans look to my admittedly poor eyes, enters the room to swipe my fucking shoes, prances around in the place wearing my shoes like she is a girlie wearing daddy big shoes or something. Weird.

Bel Prazer, dudas, and Centro places close up early Saturday afternoon so I'm headed to Eden. Going to enjoy a late afternoon session with Jennifer and Andressa taking turns sloppy deepthroating down to the balls. Got the multi garganta Profundaa spray, a whole pack of lenco wipes, red bull zero, cold Smirnoff ice, and some decent-ass marolar -Alexa turn on the air. Kkk haha sounds better in the song. Thanks for Good advice to schedule the bigger room in Eden.

I will travel to SDU to CGH Sao Paulo on Sunday to hit the Sunday Moema clinicas open every day including Prime, Miruna. Tangara does a bbq Sunday afternoon at the downstairs bar. I prefer to visit Scandallo Mon. & Tues nights.

As always YMMV your experience with Centro massages, darkroom, Dudas, Eden, and SP weekends, sundays will be different from mine. I like to roll my own way, go ahead roll your own. I buy a bunch of Inexpensive roundtrip tickets SDU to CGH for $66 to $100 bucks way in advance. Change the ticket date, departure time to whenever. . the fuck ready. I bounce around between SP and Rio on a whim or whichever deepthroat garota with rent due is sending pix message. My canned response is same, though yours might be different.

Sweetie I got a large pene pix my pau is measured in pix. Its ready for you to suck on to earn some pix. The deeper the throat the more the pix, the tip gets you no pix, mid sucking halfway gets mas o menos pix, deep to the balls for max pix. Leche swallow is included minus pix for spitting or any leche missed.

Damn, my wasssp Brasilian garotas rip the fuckin pants off to plunge deeply, attack mode no gagging for max pix. Impaling themselves, doing entire deep throat while trying pushing both balls in with dick to go past the max for pix. Haha reminder YMMV this is my experience. Pix request always seem to come eventually with the garotas I know.

Another quickie visit to Eden before going to Panda. Shoutout to ShinyCrazy, MaddTraveler, Vagbundo, and Tribute15, as must-read reports on Eden. Guys, it is easy to follow, google searchable directions, a website with garotas pics, there's a report with photo of the door 401 entrance, all prices posted on wassap, the Eden garotas names on website with reviews here in ISG and on gpguia, don't know why mofos PM about Eden.

It is an easy two-block walk from the high-rise Airbnb in Copa. scheduled an early afternoon visit lining up four garotas. Two garotas for one hour is R350 reais 70 bucks, two twenty-year-old chicas sucking dick for an hour and swallowing the load. First stopped by the Bradesco ATM next door to Eden, in front of the bus stop to get some cash, next up the supermarket around the corner to buy cold redbull Zero, Smirnoff-ice, and a smooth, wood flavored twenty-year-old whiskey to go with the twenty-year-old puterias. Hahah.

Yes Eden has a fridge selling drinks. I sit in that room glancing in the fridge between Garota presentations. I bring the drinks with slamming Spotify music garotas bring the good weed.or they better have some good weed.

Made an appointment for two different hands-four hand sessions with Lily, Isis, Andressa, and ever popular Jennifer. Thanks for the tip to schedule the bigger Eden room.

Dudes, all their photos are on the Eden website for you horn dogs that PM asking about names and photos.

All four Chicas do whatever floats your boat on the brasil fantasy bucket list, no holes are barred, anal, CIM, lesbi, sex toys, cum swapping, ATM, dom / sub.

Whatever you fucking deviants can think of to do with the submissive bodies of pretty young morena mulata asses. They do it all and more.

Andressa and Jenniffer, are repeat deepthroaters with leche swallow and ATM. Lily and Isis still have limits, and work better in duplos.

don't know about others fellas but my TD details with each chica, garotas are posted in gp-guia not so much ISG.

The clinicas, Massagem, Prives give a fucking nice discount for recent reviews of the garotas. With the Forista discount, while paying cash, the four-hour sessions with four chicas is much less than one hour scandallo garota.

Besides already wrote how after while started to see Monte Carlo, solarium, 4 x4, centaurs, prime, tangara, vani, abbobora, enjoy, Red, Espao Vergueiro, connection garotas do the Scandallo circuit asking double and triple the Clinica price.

I told skinny pale white beauty Lily in Scandallo WTF to pay your asking price are $1000 to are $1500 reais now Because its Scandallo. I'm going to see your attractive skinny fine ass, with those doe eyes, salvia slurping on my dick tomorrow in the clinica for $190 reais. Of course she did just that the next day.

Speaking of specials In the DR hoarhouse GBP. They have a 2 x1 oferta special, get two chicas, for $50 bucks or 3000 pesos for one hour in the filthy room. The large room has a nasty ass barbershop chair.

YMMV your experience may vary, and your lineup of presentations may vary you might not get a forista discount on first visit. Or sometimes they have a bakers dozen like in Spa Moah using a card with each visit. Or price different credito, debito, dinheiro cash for the discount.

Cervantes.

This is for you cartman.

I just spent a week in Rio. Not my first trip, so I did mostly favorite things.

Non-mongering observations:

Most Brazilians tap debit cards now, so you need to carry less cash. (I tried to buy some cough drops at the So Paulo airport with cash, and they looked at me like a wanted to hand them a dead fish.).

Uber is cheaper than taxis. Galeo airport has a dedicated Uber pickup area, with color-coded pickup zones.

I stayed at the Pestana and liked it better than last time. Downside: it's a bit of a hike from the subway.

My favorite juice bar is Big Bi on Siquera Campos.

There were many Pratos Executivos for as low as are $25 at the beach restaurants, which is like US $5. A steak skewer on the promenade cost me are $13, though.

I hadn't yet gotten the lay of the land, and the hotel concierge doesn't eat at restaurants, so he sent me to Boteco Belmonte. It was a fine, high-quaity place for Brazilian tourists. A "medium" pizza was the size of a large (with no tomato sauce.) The best thing was the guys who came around with different kinds of appetizers: sausages and pasteis. I'lll save room for that next time. Later I found a locals' place to the left of the Pestana.

I got a transport card, but you have to use the high scanner to enter the subway.

Santander didn't accept my ATM card, but the ATMs near Siquera Campos were fine.

I had the privilege of meeting Vagabundo, but we weren't able to connect for mongering.

Mongering:

NS de Copa 583 #302 on the third floor of that notorious building. I chose Duda, a cute petite morena. Solid service, but was offered a CBJ.

Maite Braga. She advertises on photoacompanhantes and shows a huge clitoris, which I wanted to experience. She was easy to schedule and has a place in an office building next to the square Praa General Osrio in Ipanema. When you enter, there's a mattress in the front room and a massage table in the right back room; the place is a little messy and shabby. The photos are accurate, and she is very thin with natural breasts. She starts with a weak back massage using an enormous amount of lotion. After the flip, I ask to go down on her, and this clit is like a huge lumpshe didn't do anything to uncover or show it, but she seems to warm up a little after being a bit stiff in the beginning. She then asks, "Would you like sexy" Yes, I would. She then puts a condom on me that has the consistency of sandpaper (bring your own boys!) This is so uncomfortable that I had her finish me off by hand. It was out of curiosity, but I wouldn't go back.

Darkroom. This place is in an add-on floor on the 21st floor of an office building. You need to show ID to receive a card to go through the turnstile. There is a "bar" area, where the girls hang out, but it is very spartan. I sessioned with Laura (who is mentioned elsewhere here), a pretty light-skinned morena, the best looking by far when I was there. Great service and aims to please. She was the only one who appealed to me the two times I was there. There was a tall, full-figured blonde there who kept her street clothes on. From the website, it looks like Yasmim, who was described by Tochka as a trans branca. I cracked up when Laura bumped into a bookcase in the hallway, and a bunch of double-headed dildos fell to the floor.

NS de Copa #206, also known as Club Sex. This is a real no-frills, locals' place. Girls with ink and piercings. When you come in, there is a lounge with a TV on the left, but I didn't go in there. I sat in the foyer and had a beer and checked out the girls. Mel was the only one who smiled at me and wasn't interested in her phone, so I took her. Medium-tan morena with natural breasts and pierced nipples. Good service, The bedroom were a bit spartan, with the couple on the other side of the room divider slapping away. This place is open to 11 pm, and also accepts contactless payments! I ended up there after I went to the place on the 4th floor near closing time and they only had two girls available.

How is Seeking Arrangements in Rio. Can you find hot quality women there?

[QUOTE=BroncosRob;2929904]How is Seeking Arrangements in Rio. Can you find hot quality women there?[/QUOTE]You definitely can but it's like Seeking in general — got to sort thru a bunch of crap to find the gem. But the gem can be amazing. I had three or four girls possible but settled on one. We had an amazing date with all the trimmings and she's a full on nine. Super girl. We stayed in touch for a year (this was 2023) and I've since flown her to São Paulo and Barcelona. Unbelievably hot and affectionate.

So yea. Def some winners on SA is you put in the work to find them.

One of them was a 19 year old I flew in from Sao Paulo and made her my girlfriend. I banged her about 25 times, we took trups to Buzios, Cabo de Arrail, and Manaus. Unfortunately in Manaus we had an argument and she left me there, and we are currently in no contact although I do think she wants me back. There are some good girls on seeking, but some are narcissists. Very entitled, hypocritical, selfish, the whole 9 yards of narcissism. This particular 19 year old had a smoking hot body and was super cool and fun at first, but slowly started trying to control me and things started getting worse and worse. The week I spent in Manaus after she left was really rough but I did meet a massage girl in Manaus and banged her a couple times.

I'm currently in Centro Rio, can someone help me out as far as what's good out here? Is this a really unsafe area? I've never stayed in Centro before, always Ipanema, Copabana, Leblon, or Botafogo or Laranjeres, or however its spellled.

One of vagabundo's all time best wingman used SA.

He would stay in a top airbnb at posto 2 barra (classico beach club).

And pick the best from SA and we would head out to perola negra and mosaico to fill in his gaps.

[QUOTE=BroncosRob;2929904]How is Seeking Arrangements in Rio. Can you find hot quality women there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2930527]One of vagabundo's all time best wingman used SA.

He would stay in a top airbnb at posto 2 barra (classico beach club).

And pick the best from SA and we would head out to perola negra and mosaico to fill in his gaps.[/QUOTE]How is the arrangement made with these girls? Do you pay per session or a day rate or a shopping spree?

[QUOTE=RioBob;2930681]How is the arrangement made with these girls? Do you pay per session or a day rate or a shopping spree?[/QUOTE]You generally pay are per meet or PPM. A meet is usually dinner and sex. So maybe 3-4 hours. Most of the world you try to be a bit less direct and not say "I am going to give you money for sex" but instead play it a bit cagey. Less important in countries where prostitution is out in the open. So adjust for Brazil. I updated and reposted my guide in the Seeking thread. Plus everyone there is super helpful so stop by.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2927190&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2927190.

I should mention it can be A LOT of work depending on geography. In the US it’s 99% scammers and pic girls and it’s nearly exhausting to find the gems. But totally worth it if y do. When u find the right girl it’s a completely different experience from hookers. It’s more like she’s ur GF but without the drama. But again in Brazil girls are easier going and more girlfriendy already. So it can be handy in Brazil but it’s a god send in pussy prison USA.

Vagabundo hit centro for his favorite prive today. He did 2 girls for 2 hours, starting at 14 h30. Wow great session with a hot young negra. Fucked for 45 minutes straight. I did pull out as asked and blew a large load all over her ass and legs and got a good laugh, and we vibed and planned liaisons in Zona Norte.

Then I did a branca, and we fucked for the whole hour, fucked sucked, and did every position and new ones we derived like functions in calculus, lots of dirty talk about nude beaches and swing clubs and so on. That started at 16 h and ended at 17 h. Like two a days in summer football. Man what a good girl.

So, then Vagabundo did 2 hours of Muay Thai 18 h - 19 h and 20 h- 21 h, and juiced up on endorphins, Vagabundo headed home.

Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

I am not going to report everything generally about Brazil and Rio and Sao Paulo as I usually do, but I will just give my extended data for this visit Sao Paulo and Rio.

Sao Paulo. Read in Sao Paulo forum.

Rio de Janeiro.

I love Rio. The vibe. The music. The sun and the beach and girls walking in the streets with bikini thong. Just writing on it makes me want to go back again. I am actually going back next month in August.

I stayed in Copacabana. I always stay in the Copacabana area. This time I wanted to try and stay in Barra de Tijuca, but I am always afraid it is too far. Clinicas in the Centro are almost 1 h drive from Barra. Solarium and 4 x4 are 1 h drive. Mab's and others are far away. Although there are nice places in Barra, eventually staying in Copa is easier. I hope to try Barra next time.

This time, since I was with a friend, we decided to take an apartment*on AirBNB and not go to a hotel. The hotels in Copacabana (and around Rio) do not like working girls to get in and might make some problems. Also apartment*rentals do not like it*much, but we made sure beforehand to ask if it is possible to bring guests up to the maximum allowed number of guests of course.

I went to the Solarium. Good looking girls. Expensive. Prices are almost like Scandallo in Sao Paulo. Entry fee. 700 for a girl in the room. Nothing very special but nice. I went to 4 x4 and it was amazing. Plenty of girls. Some are better looking, some less, but the vibe was much more alive. Dancing. Drinking. Happy. I took many girls' numbers and set to meet them later on, and I brought them to the apartment*and had a crazy party. Then the girls also brought friends and we celebrated with five girls all night. The next morning I went to the beach. I just love Rio.

The girls also invited us to go to some party in regular clubs in Barra de Tijuca and in a Swingers club in Barra de Tijuca too. Both was quite disappointing*experiment unfortunately. The bar was packed with pendejos, very crowded I couldn't move or drink. Bad music. So we* decided to go back home. The swingers club looks cool, but we arrived too late.

I will report more!

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2930782] I went to the Solarium. Good looking girls. Expensive. Prices are almost like Scandallo in Sao Paulo. Entry fee. 700 for a girl in the room. Nothing very special but nice. I went to 4 x4 and it was amazing. Plenty of girls. Some are better looking, some less, but the vibe was much more alive. Dancing. Drinking. Happy. I took many girls' numbers and set to meet them later on, and I brought them to the apartment*and had a crazy party. Then the girls also brought friends and we celebrated with five girls all night. The next morning I went to the beach. I just love Rio.[/QUOTE]Your description of Solarium and 4 x 4 is spot on. Solarium is where you can usually find a good-looking girl or two or three or four, and 4 x 4 is a party party! I am glad you had a great time. Thanks for posting.

Regarding Barra, just search for a airbnb nearest metro jardim oceanico. One ISG member who may or may not be a famous porn producer uses ksportal dot com dot br (search and you shall find).

Regarding swing, Paris cafe, Saturday nights, go after midnight, and bring your own pussy.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2930782]Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

I am not going to report everything generally about Brazil and Rio and Sao Paulo as I usually do, but I will just give my extended data for this visit Sao Paulo and Rio.

Sao Paulo. Read in Sao Paulo forum.

Rio de Janeiro.

I love Rio. The vibe. The music. The sun and the beach and girls walking in the streets with bikini thong. Just writing on it makes me want to go back again. I am actually going back next month in August.

I stayed in Copacabana. I always stay in the Copacabana area. This time I wanted to try and stay in Barra de Tijuca, but I am always afraid it is too far. Clinicas in the Centro are almost 1 h drive from Barra. Solarium and 4 x4 are 1 h drive. Mab's and others are far away. Although there are nice places in Barra, eventually staying in Copa is easier. I hope to try Barra next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2930782]I went to the Solarium. Good looking girls. Expensive. Prices are almost like Scandallo in Sao Paulo. Entry fee. 700 for a girl in the room. Nothing very special but nice. I went to 4 x4 and it was amazing. Plenty of girls. Some are better looking, some less, but the vibe was much more alive. Dancing. Drinking. Happy. [/QUOTE]Senhor IsaBahn, thanks for the report.

How would you compare the current roster of girls between Scandallo, Solarium and 4 x4 in terms of looks?

I too prefer the Rio vibe and that is why I am asking. The price to me is of less importance than the overall experience.

Just from one time I was in each. So I am not sure it is a representative way of measure.

But like that, Scandallo: 200 girls, grade 6 to 9, some amazing girls.

Solarium: 25 girls, grade 6 to 9.

4 x4: 100 girls, grade 5 to 8 - and I still prefer 4 x4.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2930925]Senhor IsaBahn, thanks for the report.

How would you compare the current roster of girls between Scandallo, Solarium and 4 x4 in terms of looks?

I too prefer the Rio vibe and that is why I am asking. The price to me is of less importance than the overall experience.[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

First of all, I would like to thank all the guys who report here. Reading your reports helped me a lot and I will never be able to repay the debt I owe you. Many thanks!

This is my first report in the Rio thread. English is not my mother tongue so I hope the folowing is understandable.

I arrived in Rio last week and settled close to Gloria metro station (thought it would be convenient for exploring the eastern part of the city and actually I found it quite nice and safe).

Dark Room.

It happened on July 13th. I had booked a one-hour session with Yasmin from Dark Room on the 12th for 11 am the next day.

Unfortunately, the rain prevented Yasmin from coming to the center. I found out when I arrived at the Dark Room on Saturday morning.

The only three girls present introduced themselves to me. The one I chose was Ingrid.

She is a nice mulata of about 1. 70 m, slim and with a nice slender body and a nice face with a beautiful smile. After a half-hour me waiting for her to finish what she had to do, we went together for a one hour session. I told her that I really expected kissing. She told me no problem.

After a visit to the shower, I joined her in the room and we kissed, a good wet kiss but without tongue. We went to bed and the kisses disappeared.

She gave me a very light and short BBBJ with the condom already in her hand. Then she turned her back on me and we started on the side. I reminded her of the kisses and she told me "I got it". But nothing, she simply denied me, turning her head away every single time.

A few positions and I understood that there would be nothing more. She didn't refute any position but it was a sad moment for me. After 30 minutes I ended up in the rubber.

She suggested that I go to the shower and she left. I waited for her to come back to give me the signal that the way was clear. Ten minutes passed. She came back, apologized and told me that I could go to the shower. Then she left without ever coming back.

I went to the shower, paid (150 Reais) and left.

I didn't even go to the bar to confront her, time to go on.

So well, that was Ingrid.

Carine Paiva (you will find her on gparena, photos, reports, whatsapp number and the place she got in Centro).

It happened on July 16th.

I booked with her a day before with whatsapp, very easy and quick.

I went to Centro, rua 13 de maio 33.

What a marvel of a woman, very beautiful, kind and sweet. 23 why. O mulata nice slim body with medium breast ans ass and pretty safada face with glasses, GFE type. Minor baby damage.

She offered me to go to the shower, which I did.

Back in the room, we kissed. How good, languorous and wild, sweet and intense her kisses are, a marvel. My hands on her pretty body and my mouth in her mouth, I lost the notion of time for a while.

We moved to the bed, our tongues still intertwined. After a while, my mouth explored her body. How beautiful she is, how tasty her body is! I went down to her little pearl, a real pleasure. Then I went up to her welcoming and warm mouth masturbating her with my fingers. Then more kisses, my hands running all over her body.

Then she started an incredible BBBJ looking at me. So many sensations. She is naughty, sweet, wild, creative. In order not to burn too quickly, I came back to kiss her, time disappeared again.

I asked her if we could promote it by half an hour and luckily she could. The stars sometimes align. More kisses, she lying on top of me, she sitting on top of me, me lying on top of her, our tongues inseparable. Then I came deep inside her.

As I was removing the condom, the alarm went off. Time was over, I was in another world.

We talked a little bit.

I went to the shower, then she in turn. Kisses at the door and I left delighted.

So 350 Reais for 90 minutes. I didn't go for anal but she does it for the same price (completa).

I will repeat for sure with her and try her small bubble ass. Really nice sweet and safada girl!

I am also a member of the gparena now, with those 2 reports, so I should get the members' discounts for the rest of my trip. They have a bunch of really nice girls. I already have a list.

And yes, I know about the pros and cons, I RTFF. Still, it worked well for mewith Carine and I have a new session Saturday with another girl. I will keep you posted.

BTW I am not really fond of night session and clubs.

I will stay in Rio till next Friday then I will move to Foz do Iguaçyou + Sao Paolo. I should be back in Rio early August till the end of the month.

Info:

I had some health issues when I came in Rio and managed with "Clinica Saude Pra Todos" to see a specialist the very same day in Tijuca (they have all types of specialist around the city), quite efficient. Consultation around 11 usd.

If anyone knows better that could help other members.

BTW if anyone knows a good dentist, I am interested. I have contacted one but in 5 days she hasn't been able to check her agenda and give me an appointment.

That's all for now.

Was planning on being in Rio in November and noticed that the G20 meeting is Nov 18-19. For anyone that's been in Rio during this type of event, how do you think our hobby will be affected (other than hotel rooms being more expensive)? Will there be a plethora of garotas looking to make some extra Real?

[QUOTE=Asitis;2931172]Hi everyone,

First of all, I would like to thank all the guys who report here. Reading your reports helped me a lot and I will never be able to repay the debt I owe you. Many thanks!

This is my first report in the Rio thread. English is not my mother tongue so I hope the folowing is understandable.[/QUOTE]Thank you for nice and detailed report!

[QUOTE=Combo;2932154]Was planning on being in Rio in November and noticed that the G20 meeting is Nov 18-19. For anyone that's been in Rio during this type of event, how do you think our hobby will be affected (other than hotel rooms being more expensive)? Will there be a plethora of garotas looking to make some extra Real?[/QUOTE]I had booked at the same date in Rio (G20) , so I moved my dates, and will leave Rio on 15th of November.

Lot of security, many places closed, road to airport closed. No thanks you.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2932353]I had booked at the same date in Rio (G20) , so I moved my dates, and will leave Rio on 15th of November.

Lot of security, many places closed, road to airport closed. No thanks you.[/QUOTE]Good info. Probably better to avoid. Thank you.

Hi guys,

For staying a few days in Rio what would you recommend, an AirBNB or a Hotel?

Hotel is more secure, have breakfast, but they might make some problems letting girls get in.

AirBnB should be more relaxed, but I am always afraid a girl with drug me, or rob me.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2932515]Hi guys,

For staying a few days in Rio what would you recommend, an AirBNB or a Hotel?

Hotel is more secure, have breakfast, but they might make some problems letting girls get in.

AirBnB should be more relaxed, but I am always afraid a girl with drug me, or rob me.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and São Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932673]There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.[/QUOTE]What hotel did you use in Rio? Last trip I stayed in Pestana and it was excellent. But it's being reported that they now have a guest fee.

[QUOTE=Combo;2932680]What hotel did you use in Rio? Last trip I stayed in Pestana and it was excellent. But it's being reported that they now have a guest fee.[/QUOTE]We stayed at the Arena Leme which is all the way at the north tip of Copa. Really nice place. Has a rooftop bar which is very romantic before heading to the room (but closes at 10) and great for hanging out during th day. The pool is vanishingly small so if that's your thing then it's not for you.

I cannot guarantee they don't have some fee but can say they don't pay attention. We just blasted past the front desk hand in hand (around 9:15 pm) and no one tried to stop us. Normally a hotel that is strict on this will have a bouncer type guy watching. When I was at the Pullman in São Paulo I tried breezing past and it was just 3 pm and got stopped at the elevator and directed to front desk. They took her info but that was all. No fee.

I always book for two to be safe when I can but I wouldn't think a problem at most hotels.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932673]There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.[/QUOTE]Maybe we should pin the 1st sentence in your post to the top of the SP & RJ forums, so nobody will have to ask this question again. KKK. Personally, I prefer not to have to register my girls, but some hotels will ask for a girl's ID.

The Hyatt SP, for example, sometimes asks and sometimes does not. When my Valeria comes over, I always meet her in front of the hotel and then we walk around back to the garden / pool area where we embrace, kiss, catch up on things, and have a smokie smoke. Afterwards, I walk her through the restaurant to the elevators without incident. With new girls, I just escort them through the lobby towards the elevators, sometimes without incident and sometimes security asks us to register. No big deal either way. The hotel staff have seen everything. On some nights there are one or two working girls hanging out in the lobby. There is no "walk of shame". It is only in the mind of a few inexperienced punters.

Another bringing back the girls' example is this one: I was staying at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi a trip or two ago. Actually, I stayed at that hotel twice that trip for around 10 days total and the front desk guys were getting very familiar with my MO. They never batted an eye when I brought back my girls. Valeria was my most frequent nighttime guest and she is a pretty good looking Portuguese Brazilian spinner if I do say so myself. KKK. (I originally met her in Scandallo back in November 2021.) Anyway, early one night I was alone walking past a local luncheonette type restaurant bar a block from the hotel when I spotted 1 of the hotel front desk guys having a drink with a friend. He saw me walking past and his face lit up into big friendly smile. He said something that appeared to be complimentary to his friend and invited me over to their table for a drink. The guys were in their late twenties and their vibe to me seemed to be, "way to go guy, we like your style and good taste in girls". Ha Ha Ha.

Lastly, on bringing 2 or more girls back to your SP or RJ hotel: I recommend doing it sequentially to avoid any issues at the front desk. Some hotels might attempt to charge a guest fee for the 2nd girl. That is the only restriction I have experienced in SP or RJ hotels and there is an easy workaround. But, if this were an Asian forum, I would consider such hotel policy on the 2nd or 3rd girl to be girl unfriendly. 555! For example, I will never forget my farewell last night party in Makati 2016. I brought back my 2 favorite Bottoms Go Go girls and one of their girlfriends. The girls were smashed on at least 10 shots of Tequila each. I probably had 12 or more shots thanks mamasan's comping a couple of extra rounds. We must have been quite a site entering the 5-star Peninsula Hotel lobby because nobody in my party could walk straight very well, yet the sexy cute hotel door girls bowed and cordially smiled as they welcomed me back to the hotel. The girls and I walk straight past the front desk towards the elevators, as best we could, while a relatively large number of hotel guests were still hanging out in the huge, ornate hotel lobby. Nobody batted an eye.

[QUOTE=Combo;2932680]What hotel did you use in Rio? Last trip I stayed in Pestana and it was excellent. But it's being reported that they now have a guest fee.[/QUOTE]I am surprised to hear this about the Pestana. I hope these reports remain unconfirmed even though this would not affect my activities at all because I operate a little differently when I am in RJ vs. When I am in SP. In RJ, I focus on terma girls and shag in-house while in SP I focus on boate girls and after the 1st or 2nd or 3rd time I arrange for my girls to come visit me at my hotel. This is just one of the reasons why I prefer SP.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932752]We stayed at the Arena Leme which is all the way at the north tip of Copa. Really nice place. Has a rooftop bar which is very romantic before heading to the room (but closes at 10) and great for hanging out during th day. The pool is vanishingly small so if that's your thing then it's not for you.

I cannot guarantee they don't have some fee but can say they don't pay attention. We just blasted past the front desk hand in hand (around 9:15 pm) and no one tried to stop us. Normally a hotel that is strict on this will have a bouncer type guy watching. When I was at the Pullman in So Paulo I tried breezing past and it was just 3 pm and got stopped at the elevator and directed to front desk. They took her info but that was all. No fee.

I always book for two to be safe when I can but I wouldn't think a problem at most hotels.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've never stayed on the Leme side of Av Princess Isabel. I know Arena also has one in Copacabana proper which likely has the same guest policy.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2932515]Hi guys,

For staying a few days in Rio what would you recommend, an AirBNB or a Hotel?

Hotel is more secure, have breakfast, but they might make some problems letting girls get in.

AirBnB should be more relaxed, but I am always afraid a girl with drug me, or rob me.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]Hotels are great, they have restaurants, pools, gyms and housekeeping services but there is no privacy. Stopping at the front desk at 3 am is not much of a problem but at 2 in the afternoon with your new 18 year old girlfriend can be a little embarrassing with 15 other guests waiting in line watching you. Also unless you sneak in most hotels don't let 2 girls in at a time but yes security is better at a hotel.

Apartments / airbnb provide complete privacy you can bring up as many girls as you want with as many friends that you want but you have to be smart about it. First thing is to make sure there is nothing of value out in the open or easily accessible. Lock everything in the safe if there is one otherwise I use a portable safe by pacsafe, not perfect but prevents the grab and go. When you bring a girl in at night lock the door from the inside remove the key and hide it so if you fall asleep she can't leave or let an accomplice in. Even if she can leave if there's nothing of value they can't take much and they will take anything like your shampoo, condoms, lighters, corkscrew LOL anything but these things are low value.

Most importantly never leave your drink unattended, take it to the toilet with you and always have your eye on it. The girls watch their drinks too. Also if you bring 2 girls to your apartment one trick they like is to have one keep you busy while the other goes looking through the apartment for valuables, keep them together or have nothing of value to steal. I prefer apartments and bring girls up all the time but rarely do they get anything from me. One more thing never tell anyone exactly what day you are leaving always make it seem you have several weeks left even if you're leaving the next day.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932752]We stayed at the Arena Leme which is all the way at the north tip of Copa. Really nice place. Has a rooftop bar which is very romantic before heading to the room (but closes at 10) and great for hanging out during th day. The pool is vanishingly small so if that's your thing then it's not for you.

I cannot guarantee they don't have some fee but can say they don't pay attention. We just blasted past the front desk hand in hand (around 9:15 pm) and no one tried to stop us. Normally a hotel that is strict on this will have a bouncer type guy watching. When I was at the Pullman in So Paulo I tried breezing past and it was just 3 pm and got stopped at the elevator and directed to front desk. They took her info but that was all. No fee.

I always book for two to be safe when I can but I wouldn't think a problem at most hotels.[/QUOTE]Checked this hotel on Booking today, went through the questions asked and found this (can you have female company in your room? What is needed to have company over in in your room?

Answer: Dear, we would like to inform you that if you book a room for two people, it is possible for you to bring a companion, as long as she is the same for the entire period of your stay and she registers at the reception.).

I enjoy reading the question about guest policies of the establishments on booking, they are funny and the way how people use different wording haha!

And I'm not questioning your experience about it being guest friendly! Because that question was asked back in 2021.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932673]There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid "no issue" is a wishful thinking. Some Rio hotels AND Airbnbs have stricter policies than others. Of course, when lobby traffic is busy, you have a better chance to snick your girl in, but I don't see why not ask a question beforehand and stay at a fully GF property if this is important to you.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932673]There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.[/QUOTE]Do your own due diligence before you book a room. There are Definitely hotels and AIR BnB s that have issues with you bringing females onto their property!! I did a write up about a hotel in centro who gave me problems. Also be specific in your questions! Ask follow up questions! If they say you can have a female guest, then ask if you can change the females daily. Then ask if if you can change the female daily, is there a guest charge, how much? Be specific.

Brazilians are lawfare using little bitches who will tell you its all ok, very liberal, until they have a reason to fck with you (fucking on balcony, smoking weed) and then they will pop up and tell you every guest has to be registered after 3 years of having 4 hoars from 4 x4 in your transamerica room that you snuck into the pool and put on a live sex underwater show for their entertainment, you just need to know the culture and play the game.

You're a sex mma blackbelt in your own mind until you're not, then you're a airbnb idiot who registered that apartment in copa in your wifes name (duh) and got your wife called when vagabundo lit up a joint when the landlord showed up as a fake food delivery asswipe.

Then you're worried about your wife (duh?) canceling your cards or some shit.

Fucking a skippy.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2932944]Do your own due diligence before you book a room. There are Definitely hotels and AIR BnB s that have issues with you bringing females onto their property!! I did a write up about a hotel in centro who gave me problems. Also be specific in your questions! Ask follow up questions! If they say you can have a female guest, then ask if you can change the females daily. Then ask if if you can change the female daily, is there a guest charge, how much? Be specific.[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2932944] Do your own due diligence before you book a room. There are Definitely hotels and AIR BnB s that have issues with you bringing females onto their property!! I did a write up about a hotel in centro who gave me problems. Also be specific in your questions! Ask follow up questions! If they say you can have a female guest, then ask if you can change the females daily. Then ask if if you can change the female daily, is there a guest charge, how much? Be specific.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2932905]I'm afraid "no issue" is a wishful thinking. Some Rio hotels AND Airbnbs have stricter policies than others. Of course, when lobby traffic is busy, you have a better chance to snick your girl in, but I don't see why not ask a question beforehand and stay at a fully GF property if this is important to you.[/QUOTE]AirBNBs are one thing. It is always critical to know what the condo and owner restrictions are before signing the bottom line. But as far as some restrictive RJ hotel guest policies, all I can say is, CRIKEY! I am amazed. I never had a guest problem at the Hyatt, the Fairmont, the Fasano (I stayed there for real cheap back in April 2021), and the Windsor California Hotel. I like the Hyatt a lot for its great balcony rooms and the section of beach front. Getting to and from 4 x4 takes at least 45 minutes even after 8 pm. The Windsor California is a fine 4 star with a great Copa location. I pay up for their beachfront balcony rooms.

Over in SP, I still stand by my assumption that At Least 90% of SP hotels are girl friendly. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have never had a problem with any SP hotel and I have stayed at a lot of 4* and 5* hotels.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2933021]I stand corrected.



AirBNBs are one thing. It is always critical to know what the condo and owner restrictions are before signing the bottom line. But as far as some restrictive RJ hotel guest policies, all I can say is, CRIKEY! I am amazed. I never had a guest problem at the Hyatt, the Fairmont, the Fasano (I stayed there for real cheap back in April 2021), and the Windsor California Hotel. I like the Hyatt a lot for its great balcony rooms and the section of beach front. Getting to and from 4 x4 takes at least 45 minutes even after 8 pm. The Windsor California is a fine 4 star with a great Copa location. I pay up for their beachfront balcony rooms.

[/QUOTE]All those places you mentioned are what, in the $400-500 a night range? I can understand management being more lenient when the guest is dropping 5 K for a 10 day stay. Me, I am in the 50-60 dollars a night range, so they could give a crap about me. LOL!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2933088]All those places you mentioned are what, in the $400-500 a night range? I can understand management being more lenient when the guest is dropping 5 K for a 10 day stay. Me, I am in the 50-60 dollars a night range, so they could give a crap about me. LOL!![/QUOTE]No, No, No. I use hotel CC travel points and vouchers to stay for free and the Hyatt, Marriott, and Hilton brands. I also have so called elevated status at some of these international chains and as a result they often offer special rates. Like on my last trip I was able to book the Hyatt SP for $119/ night for a 3-night stay. When I arrived at the hotel, they upgraded my entire 7-night reservation, which consisted of cash nights, point nights, and one annual voucher night) to their one-bedroom suite. It was well worth the total $357 before tax and incidental expenditures, and it included free executive club access breakfasts and evening appetizers as well as free cokes and other soft drinks anytime.

When I can't find a deal at the 5 stars, I am happy to stay at solid 4 star hotels. 4 star hotel lobbies are not as impressive as the elegant 5 star show lobbies, I don't care because the 4 stars I choose to stay at are very comfortable, clean, GF, and priced between $85/ night and $135 a night depending on how well booked they are. I start planning for my next trip very early on and I search and search until I find a good price. I prefer outdoor swimming pools and rooms with balconies, and I am partial to certain neighborhoods. These are my only restrictions. I think I paid $135 per night at the Fasano RJ during the height of Omicron April 2021. It is a smaller, very impressive hotel, with a great Ipanema location, a rooftop pool, and a fabulous restaurant. I think a room there is now going for $500 or $600/ night. Same same for the 2 Fasanos in SP. Too rico for my blood. KKK.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2932673]There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.[/QUOTE]I disagree. Its about the policy of the hotel and Airbnb, both of which typically have lobbies / cameras / security and can see when you bring back women.

For one, they can charge you more if they believe you have overnight visitors but you only booked as 1 guest. Two, they don't care about insulting a visitor as they know she's a sex worker (since you didn’t register with her when you initially checked-in).

I've stayed at hotels in plenty of countries. Some care, some don't, you always have to check beforehand.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2933021]I stand corrected.



AirBNBs are one thing. It is always critical to know what the condo and owner restrictions are before signing the bottom line. But as far as some restrictive RJ hotel guest policies, all I can say is, CRIKEY! I am amazed. I never had a guest problem at the Hyatt, the Fairmont, the Fasano (I stayed there for real cheap back in April 2021), and the Windsor California Hotel. I like the Hyatt a lot for its great balcony rooms and the section of beach front. Getting to and from 4 x4 takes at least 45 minutes even after 8 pm. The Windsor California is a fine 4 star with a great Copa location. I pay up for their beachfront balcony rooms.[/QUOTE]That might be because the Hyatt, Fairmont and probably the other two you've mentioned are GF. If you don't do your due diligence as Bravo suggested, you're running a risk of getting stuck at a hotel that doesn't want your business, or charges joiner's fees, or makes you jump through the hoops like sneaking your girl into your room, and when I'm on vacation, I'd rather avoid that shit.

That said, my MO in Rio is similar to yours. I usually play in termas and prives and for that special someone there are always motels. But those of us who prefer having fun on their home turf need to do the homework.

Besides barras vip are there any other reliable sites?

[QUOTE=PGTour;2934247]Besides barras vip are there any other reliable sites?[/QUOTE]This one is great for Rio. Never let me down. Never any bait and switch. What you see is what you get (at least has been for me): [URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/.[/URL] RioEncontro is also good: [URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/.[/URL] Brazil is the only country in the world where I've been 100% satisfied using online sites like these. Stay away from Photoacompanhantes!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2934249]This one is great for Rio. Never let me down. Never any bait and switch. What you see is what you get (at least has been for me): [URL]https://www.riosexsite.com/.[/URL] RioEncontro is also good: [URL]https://www.rioencontro.com.br/.[/URL] Brazil is the only country in the world where I've been 100% satisfied using online sites like these. Stay away from Photoacompanhantes![/QUOTE]This is interesting, I've seen a few warnings about Photosacompanhantes.

To me it seems like the closest thing to something Thai Friendly for finding girls online in Brazil.

Will be heading out there this weekend, what am I missing about Photosacompa?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2884528]Vagabundo has kind of been chilling over this holiday period. Ann Amari came over this weekend. I paid for her hair, and for that she cleaned, and promised to clean. Of course we fucked. I am kind of pussy whipped. Does that sound pussy whipped?

Well, there was a BarraVIPSRio girl here, who I met when she was coming in. I picked this place because hoars report their local incall here. So, there is that. I have a nice view. I have a nice little boat thing to Pesquiro, the best fish place on the beach at Posto 8.

You know, after 1400 days, almost, it gets a little boring, just fucking, but fucking is a pretty good pastime. There is 120 days of sodom, there is the movie salo, there is story of O, which includes my fantasy life pretty well. Rio is pretty much Sodom, or you can set up your Story of O type of harem.

OK, so I pay 300 pernoite. Sometimes I get it like 200 pernoite for 4 days for a total of 800. For good girls I offer 500 pernoite. My main go to is centro prives. I went to Darkroom on Saturday, and there were 2 girls, none really doable. I went to Emporio and there were 2 doable girls. 15 January is when the tier 1 girls are coming back as the best ones seem to be at Buzios or some other vaca spot with their family or boyfriends. I mean it is Brazil. Everyone here is high. It is summer. And the country basically goes on vacation from Thanksgiving to Carnival.

Selah.[/QUOTE]Isn't Salo a movie about the fascist Italian regime? There's a scene where the young kids are forced to eat a plate of shit. That's how you living?

[QUOTE=HrtfrdWhaler49;2934523]There's a scene where the young kids are forced to eat a plate of shit. That's how you living?[/QUOTE]No need to be rude. On the contrary to you, Senhor Vagabundo is a frequent contributor who keeps us updated on the situation I Rio.

[QUOTE=HrtfrdWhaler49;2934509]This is interesting, I've seen a few warnings about Photosacompanhantes.

To me it seems like the closest thing to something Thai Friendly for finding girls online in Brazil.

Will be heading out there this weekend, what am I missing about Photosacompa?[/QUOTE]It's basically the Wild West of escort sites. Lots of inexpensive girls some with tempting photos, but a lot of bait and switch.

There are so many great venues to meet working girls face to face at various price levels most consider PA a waste of time.

The week in baseball.

Yesterday Vagabundo creampied a Sammie Rhodes clone bare twice at a centro prive. The cost was 230 including 180 for the house and 50 for the raw service.

Thursday Vagabundo creampied Amber Lynn at a centro hotel (Sevilha, at Rua Andrades 127, cost 80), and 250 for her. Showed her a picture of a fellow ISGer who she may do when he gets into town.

Wednesday Vagabundo did Nani at Bel Prazer for 180 and definitely avoide her, terrible service, just 2 minutes of covered fucking after all the games.

Maybe last week, Vagabundo did Malu at Emporio who was a pretty good fuck even though it was covered. Showed her a picture of a fellow ISGer who she is looking forward to seeing again. We're all shooting on each others targets here in centro prives.

Finally, give a shout out to TrueBlue back in rich world pussy prison. He had a heart attack, and the doctors said depression is a factor Rabbi Surgeon Vagabundo assesses that it was a near death of despair where the shitty treatment by Rich World women leads to men having bad health outcomes. So, come gets some cheap rio pussy.

Only in Rio 6 days. Yes I will make my way to a few termas and prives. My preference would be to include a cool SA girlfriend type; make it worth her while and get GFE service and company. Issue is SA sucks in RIO. Literally 5 girls who have logged on within 4 weeks. So question: anyone ever have luck with Tinder or Bumble in RIO? Seems like a 20 yr old chatting with me on Bumble would be equivalent to SA girl = sex for $ in a comfortable way of course.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2935312]Only in Rio 6 days. Yes I will make my way to a few termas and prives. My preference would be to include a cool SA girlfriend type; make it worth her while and get GFE service and company. Issue is SA sucks in RIO. Literally 5 girls who have logged on within 4 weeks. So question: anyone ever have luck with Tinder or Bumble in RIO? Seems like a 20 yr old chatting with me on Bumble would be equivalent to SA girl = sex for $ in a comfortable way of course.[/QUOTE]You don't need to find them on those apps. Just talk to girls at the termas and they will provide everything you want. You can get their WhatsApp at the place and talk to them later to set up an evening or even a few days.

Good luck and post back.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2935374]You don't need to find them on those apps. Just talk to girls at the termas and they will provide everything you want. You can get their WhatsApp at the place and talk to them later to set up an evening or even a few days.[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly. You will get a face-to-face vibe with a termas girl. Some will be all business and some will be just chill girls. The chill girls know it's about money but they will make it a nice social interaction.

CCRider understands how it all works since he said he would make it worthwhile for the girl.

Guys who go down to Brazil for a week or two and think civilian women will throw themselves at their First World awesomeness are delusional.

USD: BRL 5. 7228 = time to load up on Petrobas, PE <4 and loads of other good stuff, including stellar sex with beautiful young women at $USD 104 a peronite (or less for longer periods). As I type this my wife (for this week) has her mouth full of my cock, so I'll make it a short post.

Enjoy the currency ride.

This report is for my trip way back in Nov last year. Unfortunately I had to cut short my trip (not because of the issue I detailed below 😀.) after 2 days in Rio and return home.

The only place I visited during those 2 day stay was my favorite terma, Solarium.

On the 2nd day, I went to room with a girl. Lights in the room went out within 5 minutes. I didn't want to do it in the dark so I came out and informed the manager / supervisor lady that lights were out. The staff ran around for 10 minutes and then they completely ignored me. I went and asked the manager lady what they are doing about the room situation. I expected them to switch me to another room or wait for another room to be open if non were available. But to my surprise, I was asked to pay to girl and not for the room because I spent 15 minutes (they have included the 10 minutes I spent outside the room to resolve the issue). I tried to tell them that I was in the room for less than 5 minutes but they didn't care. It was difficult to communicate with the staff without Portuguese. The reception lady does understand and speak some English but she pretended she didn't. Very strange way to handle the issue. I guess that's the way they roll in Rio. Anyway, I have enjoyed visiting the club but I don't plan on visiting it again.

Anyone had such experience in Solarium or in any other Rio terma?

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2935429]
Anyone had such experience in Solarium or in any other Rio terma?[/QUOTE]No. I have always had a good time at Solarium although their regular rooms are way too small, all you get is very a tiny narrow bed and a shower. I would write your experience off as a combination of a rare electrical & communications fuck up unless it happens to you again.

Google translate should have been sufficient to handle both sides of the communications issue.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2935402]Yes, exactly. You will get a face-to-face vibe with a termas girl. Some will be all business and some will be just chill girls. The chill girls know it's about money but they will make it a nice social interaction.

CCRider understands how it all works since he said he would make it worthwhile for the girl.

Guys who go down to Brazil for a week or two and think civilian women will throw themselves at their First World awesomeness are delusional.[/QUOTE]Delusional is the correct word, and time wasting. After many years I've found a little respect, a smile and some $ goes a long way with the girls. I will take your and Anaggie advice and not spend online time. Trip is Sept so doing homework.

The prives seem to come and go after reading months of these threads. How does one get up to date locations closer to a trip? Just reading this forum may have to suffice?

And does every girl in Brazil have a boob job? Those chests cannot be natural, but I plan on making a score of natural versus fake when I'm there.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2935523]And does every girl in Brazil have a boob job? Those chests cannot be natural, but I plan on making a score of natural versus fake when I'm there.[/QUOTE]This is the sad trend over the last twenty years. Boob jobs as well as large tattoos.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2935509]No. I have always had a good time at Solarium although their regular rooms are way too small, all you get is very a tiny narrow bed and a shower. I would write your experience off as a combination of a rare electrical & communications fuck up unless it happens to you again.

Google translate should have been sufficient to handle both sides of the communications issue.[/QUOTE]Yeah, never had this or similar issues at Solarium or any other termas. The communication hiccups are especially strange, as there are at least 2 receptionists who speak near-native English -- a guy and a gal who used to live in Queens for years. In any case, I wouldn't let this one bad experience prevent me from going there again (although the high-sky prices and uncomfortable rooms just might).

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2935509]No. I have always had a good time at Solarium although their regular rooms are way too small, all you get is very a tiny narrow bed and a shower. I would write your experience off as a combination of a rare electrical & communications fuck up unless it happens to you again.

Google translate should have been sufficient to handle both sides of the communications issue.[/QUOTE]I don't like those beds either. I chose suite once expecting it would have a better bed. Like you said, it had same fucking small narrow bed like standard rooms but with shower inside 😒.

Shit happens but I tend to give 2nd chance depending on how issues are resolved. It was their problem. All they had to do was take responsibility and provided me another room instead of asking me to pay for services not rendered. Why play games of running out the clock, ignoring etc.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2935647]
Shit happens but I tend to give 2nd chance depending on how issues are resolved. It was their problem. All they had to do was take responsibility and provided me another room instead of asking me to pay for services not rendered. Why play games of running out the clock, ignoring etc.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. It's not right that they want you to pay for something that is caused by their own fault. But looking on the bright side, they at least prorated it.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2935765]I agree with you. It's not right that they want you to pay for something that is caused by their own fault. But looking on the bright side, they at least prorated it.[/QUOTE]The rooms in Solarium are crappy small for a threesome. Sometimes I ask for a quick tour to see the different rooms. Then write down which ones are not the absolute smallest fuking one. In monte carlo and solarium I tell the chicas at reception which rooms I want to bang the garotas. And give a small propina to the cleaning lady or the female manager of the garotas, to bring extra towels, rush my drink orders we call in from ya small ass room, and a few other nice service stuff.

I still prefer to get the garotas wassap, meet at closing, off to panda love motel for better threesome experience.

Solorio termas sucks when the air conditioning, power, lights, don't work, their internet connection is spotty, no power outlet to recharge the phone or the outlet is near the damn ceiling. Or the garota is wasting time trying to find the controller to turn on the AC only to discover its needs new batteries.

[QUOTE=Tochka;2935778]
... off to panda love motel for better threesome experience.

[/QUOTE]Any love motel recommendations in Copa? Just in case I need it.

Traveling to Rio next Th-Sun. Have some lined up already for Sunday but wanted to hear any thoughts on talent in the following places:

Centaurus: (forget all the Centaurus slamming BS-the currency is 1:5. 66+ so save it) - was there in August 23 and I found the talent limited at best. Anyone been there in the last 4-6 weeks? Over the last 20 years I've been there when there were so many hot girls you could close your eyes and throw a dart and then other times when there was barely any that were doable.

Solarium: was there same time frame as above. Found the talent above average with a 3rd day employee that took it sem comisinha for an increase. Now she works at a prive in Barra. Any thoughts? In 2022 it sucked and 2023 was great. Anybody know when the full line up pops in on a Saturday night?

4 x4: planning on the Friday afternoon festa at the Walmart of GDP's (there is something for everyone). Found some excellent talent there last year. Any thoughts? Have the Friday afternoons had the full line-up? Not really interested in the prives or office building places, I have enough numbers to not waste time going from place to place vs sitting on the beach.

Any Monte Carlo experiences? Have not had a good time there since 2016 ish.

I will report back on my findings but would appreciate some advance feedback. I'll compare and contrast what I think with your comments upon return.

[QUOTE=HumpyDumpty11;2935804]Any love motel recommendations in Copa? Just in case I need it.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/zona-sul[/URL]

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2935523]Delusional is the correct word, and time wasting. After many years I've found a little respect, a smile and some $ goes a long way with the girls. I will take your and Anaggie advice and not spend online time. Trip is Sept so doing homework.

The prives seem to come and go after reading months of these threads. How does one get up to date locations closer to a trip? Just reading this forum may have to suffice?

And does every girl in Brazil have a boob job? Those chests cannot be natural, but I plan on making a score of natural versus fake when I'm there.[/QUOTE]My favorite spot is Dolce Vita.

It's a club in copa that opens at 11 pm but doesn't get packed until midnight.

Full of freelancer girls.

Lots of girls here just do it on the side for extra money and have a regular job.

It's kind of like the casarao of rio.

It varies from day to day of course on the quality of girls but I found some great chill girls here and it's cheap to get in and you can walk out after the girl leaves to avoid paying the takeout fee and drive together in an uber to your place.

Wish it didn't get so busy until after midnight but it's a good shot for some semi pro fun.

Also check out Casablanca and maybe the other little boates nearby.

The girls will kind of rotate in and out of those little clubs but most end up in DV since it's cheap or free for them to enter and they can make the most money from there.

Kira Noir, Perfect Thursday fuck.

Thursday, Vagabundo was up before the rising sun at 05 h, as a Swiss Naval Infantryman, Retired, in Recreio at Recreio Shopping, so he geared up with new purchases from Decathlon -- a rashguard, and a triathlon shorts thanks to a ISG bro who hand carried it in from the US as it is hard to get in Brazil, and a DJI Action 4 thanks to Michael Samuel and recommended by none other than Mambo Perv himself, aka ISGer Mandingoblack, who is making the best buttman porno here in Rio, actually here in Recreio at Abrico Praia.

Vagabundo walked to Praia Macumba, Posto 12, and swam at 08 h after a acai, nice 1000 m swim out past the surfers and back in in the protected cove created by Pontal.

Then he took a city bus to meet some university friends who will go to the beach on Saturday, including some hot young women, 69 years younger than Vagabundo's 90 years. Thank god for generic viagra and the blood of young virgins.

Speaking of which, after doing some light afternoon trading after lunch, Vagabundo took a bus into centro where he selected Kira Noir whose bare kunt beckoned. He paid 180 for the hour and 50 more including with coin and 2 reais notes for the raw fucking. She was willing to take it in her ass, but in the event, the girth was a pain inducer, and not being actually cruel, Vagabundo just continued in her pussy, nearly creampie ing her at minute 40 or so, well maybe minute 35. Speaking of which, the hour starts when the girl arrives in the room, not when you go up, ie, subir. Be careful and enforce your hour.

It was a solid fuck. We started in missionary with a little purple usb powered vibe on her clit, and she came several times, so all was positive and good and then the fucking continued for several more felipe ret songs. Always play the whole album.

The vagabundo city bus ed back for Muay Thai at 20 h, and did in fact do 10 rounds on the bag, though no kicking, as 90 year old knees which have had surgery for torn meniscus are nothing to treat too violently especially when sparring with 21 year old atletas. He almost took a city bus back to Recreio, but being tired from the 3 hours of cardio, he called an uber, actually a indriver, which allows for setting a limit on price. The cost was 51 r but on 99 it would have been 90 r, so cheap charlies take note. On Uber, Vagabundos name is Nina Deponca, and he identifies as a trans (joke), he actually uses her cpf to protect his card, and pays in cash. Actually Anne Amari stole Vagabundo's credit card information so he has to freeze and unfreeze his card to get money out of bradesco or take an 99. Lesson learned there, men, even after 2. 5 years of often being together for 4 nights a week, these jealous crazy thieving hoars will hack your personal finances, so, recruit them for the Zohan section of Mossad, but don't trust them, and tie them up and lock them up at night. She just took enough to reimburse herself for cell phone charges when Vagabundo was in a connectivity crisis, but still, she didn't ask, and now, she is disavowed for good. She clearly was jealous of the euro college girls that Vagabundo was 69 ing with on the same couch in the love shack in Recreio, the FInnish blond real loira with the tight little blond ass whose cheeks wiggled on vagabundo's mouth as she came over and over and over on afternoons after intensive portoguese tests, and she was jealous of why Vagabundo suddenly was watching whole series of Russian minor Netflix dramas in Russian, or listenign to miyagi, I got love. To wit, Vagabundo needs to go to school, to source more of that euro pussy to sit on his face, there is always a new crop every semester, netherlands and Austria, divers and kick boxing brunettes who speak English, which pumps the nads of Vagabundo's cerebral cortex as well as the erectile issue in his 90 year old 17 centimeter bratwurst, fortified by PReP and a cocktail of generic cialis and viagra, and endorphins from dodging surfer chicks with great bundas back in on swims at Praia Macumba, literally Voodoo Beach.

Voodoo Beach.

Man, if you don't go fuck raw on Voodoo beach and smoke a joint have you really lived?

Thats the plan, Saturday with Kira Noir.

What is the going rate for freelancers now in places like Dolce Vita? Going there next week, just would like an idea so I don't get ripped off.

[QUOTE=TeddyT6969;2936227]What is the going rate for freelancers now in places like Dolce Vita? Going there next week, just would like an idea so I don't get ripped off.[/QUOTE]The going rate is whatever you decide to pay. Girls can ask for whatever they want, but it's your decision whether you want to pay it or counter with your own price. Many DV girls have quoted 5-600 R for one hour and I quickly counter with much less. (Please understand that these working girls have an amazing network on WhatsApp. Whatever amount you pay, will be shared within 24 hours.) I have heard many idiots get on online and say, "I am not going to spend all this money for my flight and hotel just to be cheap with the girls. " Then these same dumbasses are the first ones to complain that the girls are asking for one hour when they used to stay all night for the same price!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2936404]The going rate is whatever you decide to pay. Girls can ask for whatever they want, but it's your decision whether you want to pay it or counter with your own price. Many DV girls have quoted 5-600 R for one hour and I quickly counter with much less. (Please understand that these working girls have an amazing network on WhatsApp. Whatever amount you pay, will be shared within 24 hours.) I have heard many idiots get on online and say, "I am not going to spend all this money for my flight and hotel just to be cheap with the girls. " Then these same dumbasses are the first ones to complain that the girls are asking for one hour when they used to stay all night for the same price![/QUOTE]While I completely agree with you, a newbie monger is not going to think the same way. It takes a few trips before most guys realize how much their USD or Euro is worth in Brasil.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2936404]The going rate is whatever you decide to pay. Girls can ask for whatever they want, but it's your decision whether you want to pay it or counter with your own price. Many DV girls have quoted 5-600 R for one hour and I quickly counter with much less. (Please understand that these working girls have an amazing network on WhatsApp. Whatever amount you pay, will be shared within 24 hours.) I have heard many idiots get on online and say, "I am not going to spend all this money for my flight and hotel just to be cheap with the girls. " Then these same dumbasses are the first ones to complain that the girls are asking for one hour when they used to stay all night for the same price![/QUOTE]You probably look much better than me. I don't think I've ever been quoted less than US120 (whatever the exchange) at DV, and my bargaining success has been limited.

On the other topic: sure guys shouldn't be cheap but they also shouldn't be dumb. And overpaying is dumb.

This reasoning (oh I've already spend so much on flights and hotels) is idiotic. A sensible guy has a total budget in mind when working on his travel. Don't want to feel cheap? Drop DV or first tier termas. There are plenty of cheaper yet excellent carnal options available in Rio. It's one of the very few spots on earth where you can have fun with whatever budget.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2936404](Please understand that these working girls have an amazing network on WhatsApp. Whatever amount you pay, will be shared within 24 hours.) [/QUOTE]Glad you have posted this. This explains why girls throwing increasingly bigger numbers at guys (mostly tourists) knowing some will accept. Scandallo is the worst in this regard, girls quoting 3 to 4 K for an hour and 5 k a night. More an more girls quoting 1 k for an hour even in Casarao. Just crazy!

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2936883]Glad you have posted this. This explains why girls throwing increasingly bigger numbers at guys (mostly tourists) knowing some will accept. Scandallo is the worst in this regard, girls quoting 3 to 4 K for an hour and 5 k a night. More an more girls quoting 1 k for an hour even in Casarao. Just crazy![/QUOTE]Just say no! In a friendly, ordinary, non-challenging way and in most cases the girl will respond with a more reasonable rate. But always be prepared to walk. I have never given a girl more than 1200 r in Scandallo, 800 r in Bomboa, and 550 r in Casarao for ST. LT is a different story. I never do a LT with a boate girl until I have shagged her a couple of times in house. I am still giving my favorite Scandallo girl 900 r for modified ST by which I mean LT without the sleepover. Her current ask for new customers is 1000 r for ST (good luck baby), but she will accept less.

That said, there is always going to be some guy who will give a girl anything she asks. That's life. BTW, what is the going ST price range for DV girls?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2936967]BTW, what is the going ST price range for DV girls?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2936404]Many DV girls have quoted 5-600 R for one hour and I quickly counter with much less. [/QUOTE]Hey Bravo, I am sorry for not remembering your tip in the previous post when I asked my redundant question. I only had a few sips of coffee, and my brain was not fully operational yet.

And don't get me started on the de-evolution of LT or annual price escalations. It is a worldwide phenomenon, and I blame it on the internet. More than half the dudes traveling to Thailand, Phnom, Brazil ect, ect would not even dream of doing so if not for the fucking web.

#raw.

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You think you can get rid of me that easily?

#raw.

When I went to pay my bill at DV last night, I noticed something peculiar. It was the only machine that I have encountered in Rio that did not give the patron the option to select whether they wanted to pay in Dollars or Reais. From termas to clothing stores, the machine always gives me the chance to select how I want to pay, but for some strange reason that wasnt the case with DV's hand help machine. I plan on asking why when I return on Thursday.

An interesting thing that happened at DV last night was watching two Spaniards skip out on their bill. They were at the desk for over 20 minutes arguing about their drink bill with the guy who works as the cashier. (I guess they didn't like the girls running up the bill with those overpriced Gin and Tonic with Red Bull). Plus, they probably had to pay the exit fee of 150 R to take the girls out too. One of the security guys said the bill was around 800 R. After going back and forth with management, they looked at each other, said something and then hightailed it down the stairs. They knocked over the fence and ran down the street!! Lucky for them, there were no police officers in that little hut stationed next door. (So strange that they would risk being thrown in jail for a bill that was only 800 R. With Euros that would have been a cheap night!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2938857]When I went to pay my bill at DV last night, I noticed something peculiar. It was the only machine that I have encountered in Rio that did not give the patron the option to select whether they wanted to pay in Dollars or Reais. From termas to clothing stores, the machine always gives me the chance to select how I want to pay, but for some strange reason that wasnt the case with DV's hand help machine. I plan on asking why when I return on Thursday.[/QUOTE]I avoid credit card issues when on a trip by using my cards as sparingly as possible. I'll use them to pay my hotel bills, at certain types of restaurants, and other places. But for the most part, I just like dealing in cash. And by doing that you pay less than if you use a credit card where the establishment tacks on a surcharge for allowing you the privilege. I used to travel with lots of cash, but not anymore. I just withdraw from a secure ATM using a debit card that refunds any and all fees. That Schwab card is really good! The international traveling monger's card of choice!

[QUOTE=Bravo;2938857]When I went to pay my bill at DV last night, I noticed something peculiar. It was the only machine that I have encountered in Rio that did not give the patron the option to select whether they wanted to pay in Dollars or Reais. From termas to clothing stores, the machine always gives me the chance to select how I want to pay, but for some strange reason that wasnt the case with DV's hand help machine. I plan on asking why when I return on Thursday.
[/QUOTE]Is the machine charging in Reals for all cards or charging in Dollars (or other currencies) sneakily for international cards?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2938857]When
An interesting thing that happened at DV last night was watching two Spaniards skip out on their bill. They were at the desk for over 20 minutes arguing about their drink bill with the guy who works as the cashier. (I guess they didn't like the girls running up the bill with those overpriced Gin and Tonic with Red Bull). Plus, they probably had to pay the exit fee of 150 R to take the girls out too. a cheap night![/QUOTE]DV has an exit fee? I thought it was basically a cafe with a bunch of freelancers hanging around?

I am in town in Copacabana. If anyone is around and wants to meet up send me a message. It's my first time here so I am looking for someone to show me the ropes. Been all over Asia and Europe this year so I can share stories.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2938888]Is the machine charging in Reals for all cards or charging in Dollars (or other currencies) sneakily for international cards?[/QUOTE]Thats the 25 thousand-dollar question!! If the business is smart, they are charging in Dollars because they can tack on fees and they set the rate. Thats why I always pay in the local currency because then the bank decides the conversion rate. I didn't go to DV last night but I will ask the next time I am in there if I can pay in Reais.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2938986]DV has an exit fee? I thought it was basically a cafe with a bunch of freelancers hanging around?[/QUOTE]Yes, its called a "Desperta" charge on your bill. It was 75 R last year, I don't know how much it is now.

I've searched threads and their website (which is intentionally vague) . Can anyone tell me how Casablanca in RIO works. I know it's a stripper bar. I know the girls will negotiate for sex. Questions:

1. if their a club fee to take a girl ST? LT?

2. is there rooms attached to the club for additional fee?

3. can you take girl back to your hotel instead of ST rooms if hotel is close?

Also story upon story on guys getting overcharged in RIO on credit cards in places like DV and Casablanca. Can one pay everything in cash as you go?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2939121]Guys, I have been warned about crazy influx of people coming into RIO for a rock music event from September 12th to 22nd.[/QUOTE]Rock in Rio 2024 is a pretty big deal. I prefer the acts years ago, but at least I know the names of the '24 headliners.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2939067]I've searched threads and their website (which is intentionally vague) . Can anyone tell me how Casablanca in RIO works. I know it's a stripper bar. I know the girls will negotiate for sex. Questions:

1. if their a club fee to take a girl ST? LT?

2. is there rooms attached to the club for additional fee?

3. can you take girl back to your hotel instead of ST rooms if hotel is close?

Also story upon story on guys getting overcharged in RIO on credit cards in places like DV and Casablanca. Can one pay everything in cash as you go?[/QUOTE]They have rooms there that you can use. I went once in January and it was are $500/ h in the club (don't remember how much the room is), and it was are $1000 for overnight (although overnight was like 3-ish hours). There is a fee you pay the club to take her out, and I think it was like around are $150.

[QUOTE=CurtisAndreas;2939263]They have rooms there that you can use. I went once in January and it was are $500/ h in the club (don't remember how much the room is), and it was are $1000 for overnight (although overnight was like 3-ish hours). There is a fee you pay the club to take her out, and I think it was like around are $150.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the info. Do they require cards or can one pay with real $?

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[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2939067]I've searched threads and their website (which is intentionally vague) . Can anyone tell me how Casablanca in RIO works. I know it's a stripper bar. I know the girls will negotiate for sex. Questions:

1. if their a club fee to take a girl ST? LT?

2. is there rooms attached to the club for additional fee?

3. can you take girl back to your hotel instead of ST rooms if hotel is close?

Also story upon story on guys getting overcharged in RIO on credit cards in places like DV and Casablanca. Can one pay everything in cash as you go?[/QUOTE]1. Yes, I recall it being quite high, like 200-300 R depending on time of night. The girls charge 500-800 on top, but may be more willin to shack with you if it's late at night and they live far outside of the city (gap in service, need a place to stay). Ive personally had as low as 600 LT including exit fee, but it’s rare … I speak a little Porto, I vibed with the girl and she really wanted to leave lol.

2. Yes, total ST amount for girl somewhere around 600 R.

3. Yes, see above.

Also, there is a 100 R fee (gets 2 drinks) for entry. You can sometimes negotiate down to 60-80 R depending on time of week and if you're in a group.

Maybe you can be my editor, to improve my incredibly poor writing (actually incredibly tired writing which I should avoid, in all fairness).

Vagabundo linked up with 2 other ISGers on Friday, having been delayed by traffic. One was a new to town monger and gamer who shall remain unnamed who is a scholar and a gentleman for waiting on the 2nd floor of the Mcdonalds at Metro Uruguiana along with 2 other ISGers, both quality dudes too, and wingmen. Now is actually the optimal time of year to be in town as the best girls are coming back to the prives to get the cash they need.

We patrolled over to Darkroom, and I hit a regular for a good 30 minutes of actual sex shag after which she gave me a weak massage, but I session with her due to her other features. Anyway, you can always get a solid girl there. And the open air area where you can socialize makes it a very minimal but workable boate kind of feel not just a prive.

We went down to 1417 in the same building which had some good talent including a new negra, ariela. One wingman was immediately jealous of the ole vagabundo direct approach of getting numbers in the line up. It is true, Vagabundo like all men with penises is at heart a selfish bastard. Glad to share, glad to get in the line, even at the end.

We four musketeers were crossing Rio Branco. Vagabundo was late to a event at the Swiss Consulate in Gloria where he expected some kick boxing French exchange student to give a particular aula (class) nekid, along with a certain Brazilian student who teaches samba lessons, also nekid, fresh off her nekid piano duet with the Russian exchange student who taught Vagabundo all the words in the hit song, I got love, which they danced together. Let's face it, at 90 -- almost 91 years old -- Vagabundo aint doing samba like he used to when he was 87. But the enormous girth of my 17 centimeter long Bratwurst always hits the g-spot with my uncircumcised German. Italian pepperoni. Show me a man without an ego and I will show you a loser every time. But, being a bad wingman, Vagabundo took off like a bat out of hell to the closest Bradesco and left his three fellow musketeers in the dust. They were pissed and had to call to ask the exact location of Bel prazer, which is Rio Branco 185/2114, where one of them shagged, apparently.

Vagabundo had shot an enormous wad of jism across the back and ass of the girl up at Darkroom. I mean, I hate to complain, but the whole time she was obsessing over seeing my blood exam. After the deed, I did show it too her and she approved. I mean, it is a good thing to be safe. I will share the contact of the doc who will come out and do a mobile blood draw -- same guy who does 4 x4, which is where I got the contact -- if you PM me and join our whatsapp group.

Vagabundo like Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Henry Miller and Jorge Amado is a writer in the genre of the Literature of Hoaring. We few, we privileged few men of luxury who can enjoy the finer things in life are a brotherhood unto ourselves. In the Rich World Pussy Prisons like 'merika, our brothers with penises use their pricks less, and we would be glad to sympathize, but we are too busy fucking the next hot little piece of ass that comes to Centro, Zona Sul, and Recreio for some money and fun.

Bis bald meine damen und herren.

That's German for later dudes and bitches.

[QUOTE=Wwwwe;2937378]You think you can get rid of me that easily?

#raw.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2939755]Maybe you can be my editor, to improve my incredibly poor writing.[/QUOTE]I mean who would dare attempt to improve the writing of the "Hemingway of the hoors"? LMAO!

Ah, Senor Cane, my most ardent critic!

Just for you, here is a tid bit, or a titty bit as it were.

On 12,13, and 14 September, none other than our common hoar, Eliza Sanches will be appearing, in person, so we could, theoretically, if you were in Brazil, bang her both not at the same time, that would be weird, but in close succession maybe, at Perola Negra. I will post her flier.

I mean, I hear from professionals like our ISGer comrade, Mambo Perv, who is callsign mandingoblack on ISG that Elisa Sanches has had her pussy surgically repaired, which can only make sense after so much, ah, work. But, that said, she is the one thing we have in common, that is, I have enjoyed her three holes, as have you, senor. Perhaps we should send her to the middle east and eastern europe to share her genius for peace making with the world, like the greatest Carioca and Brazilian diplomats!

Ordem e Progresso.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2939844]I mean who would dare attempt to improve the writing of the "Hemingway of the hoors"? LMAO![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2939755] Vagabundo like Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Henry Miller and Jorge Amado is a writer in the genre of the Literature of Hoaring. We few, we privileged few men of luxury who can enjoy the finer things in life are a brotherhood unto ourselves. [/QUOTE]In the spirit of Jorge Amado, me thinks, but your writing style DOES vary a bit. Ha Ha. Keep posting mate.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2939900]..... Elisa Sanches has had her pussy surgically repaired......[/QUOTE]After having serviced both yourself and Cane it is amazing that its only her pussy that required surgical repair.

Undiagnosed and untreated PTSD, of course, is treated only by talking about bad clients, which speaking only for myself, I certainly am, since hoars almost certainly never have health insurance, except for the public variety which can be accessed and prescribed with a CPF.

I was in Perola Negra last Thursday, and it was rocking, super talent as usual. I will upload some pictures of the former and present Ana Foxxx Zawaadi, who now is at Perola negra at a rate like 20 x higher per hour and 5 x more per fuck than when I met her in Vila Mimosa, which is where there is a Elisa Sanches suite in Mosaico, upstairs, you can and should check, just go and see for yourself. Vila Mimosa BTW is not far from the Federal University near Maracana, which is one of the best places to go and get some cheap lunches and dinners, as well as some educated friends, if you know what I mean, and in turn, it is not far from Feira Sao Cristavao, which is a great place to take a date, both pro, non pro, semi pro, and otherwise.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2940105]After having serviced both yourself and Cane it is amazing that its only her pussy that required surgical repair.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2940105]After having serviced both yourself and Cane it is amazing that its only her pussy that required surgical repair.[/QUOTE]One would think she would need to repair that pink butt hole too. Porn actors and mongers be running all up in there!

Staying at JW Copa in a few weeks. Day time will be tourist stuff, copa spas and maybe a day at centro prives.

Questions. Is it safe to walk to places like Casablanca or DV from JW at night, or is a taxi or uber advised? Seems like a 15 minute walk. Both places open late.

Also, any recent stays at JW? From reading threads it's unclear whether they consistently require girl to show ID and register. BTW I actually want them to do that for safety but want to get it clear first.

Finally, is a burner phone recommended? Since my Portuguese is limited I'll be using translator app. Whilst I'm street smart and generally look like someone you don't want to fuck with, stories about iphones getting ripped off in Rio are plentiful.

Obrigado.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2940367]Staying at JW Copa in a few weeks. Day time will be tourist stuff, copa spas and maybe a day at centro prives.

Questions. Is it safe to walk to places like Casablanca or DV from JW at night, or is a taxi or uber advised? Seems like a 15 minute walk. Both places open late.

Also, any recent stays at JW? From reading threads it's unclear whether they consistently require girl to show ID and register. BTW I actually want them to do that for safety but want to get it clear first.

Finally, is a burner phone recommended? Since my Portuguese is limited I'll be using translator app. Whilst I'm street smart and generally look like someone you don't want to fuck with, stories about iphones getting ripped off in Rio are plentiful.

Obrigado.[/QUOTE]Obv preferably walking in a group. But key is to walk beachside of the street. People who are lurking or group of pickpocket hookers run on the buildings side of the street. The beachside with restaurants and all seems the safe route. And don't let anyone get close esp the hookers. We lost two phones in a quick one minute up close encounter. They are pros. And I don't mean at sex. 😋.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2940416]Obv preferably walking in a group. But key is to walk beachside of the street. People who are lurking or group of pickpocket hookers run on the buildings side of the street. The beachside with restaurants and all seems the safe route. And don't let anyone get close esp the hookers. We lost two phones in a quick one minute up close encounter. They are pros. And I don't mean at sex. 😋.[/QUOTE]Thanks Steve. Nice. Scamming and hustling in Rio. I'm wearing thin secure money belt that can fit phone undershirt and partially under waist belt. Then wrist tether with phone out when in public. So they'll either have to give me a handjob or they be a higher BJJ belt than me to get the phone.

Hi folks,

Coming to Rio next month.

- How is Centaurus these days? Went there last time in Rio, about two years ago, and was underwhelmed with the quality of the girls. I left.

Might still have been affected by Covid. Has it improved? What is the best terma these days?

- RJ Massagens in Copa was ok back then and it was ok. The girl was close enough to her pictures, good body, nice face, good B2 B massage and HJ.

What are the best daytime joints nowadays? I am looking for top shelf only if I go pro and am willing to pay for it.

- Are DV / Mabs or places like Casablanca attracting top shelf chicks again?

If so, what are the best days and times to go?

Probably the best pro in my life was a chick I found at DV. This was just before COVID.

I did not expect much of the place, just happened to walk by with a buddy.

But there were two absolute stunners that could have easily passed as fashion models.

I ended up choosing the tall, slim mulata with mesmerizing green eyes and a superbly beautiful face.

Took her back to my Airbnb (which I usually never do for safety reasons, but my buddy was in the other room) for are $400. Great chemistry, amazing fun. Gave her a long massage, which gave me ample time to explore her gorgeous body (got trained in Thailand years ago, a great skill to have! I don't do vaginal with pros for a number of reasons, including bc the experience ends up being more intense for me. She got really horny and wet and kept trying to convince me.

That's what I love about Brazil, the chicks tend to love their „job" (they also call it that) and can get real passionate.

I'll provide a report after my trip.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2940416]Obv preferably walking in a group. But key is to walk beachside of the street. People who are lurking or group of pickpocket hookers run on the buildings side of the street. The beachside with restaurants and all seems the safe route. And don't let anyone get close esp the hookers. We lost two phones in a quick one minute up close encounter. They are pros. And I don't mean at sex. 😋.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree partially with you on this one. It depends on the time of the day, time of the year and your self awareness. "Nothing good comes after 2 in the night" is a phrase I love from one of my fav tv-shows. What time is it? Are there events or happenings? Is it Saturday, Sunday or Monday? Where exactly, which posto are you at?

A few "good to knows": Posto 5 (and the adjecient first couple of meters of 4) is the best place to stay in Copa. So, JW is a good choice location-wise. Here on the "building side of the avenida" locals are usually taking a stroll or taking the dog out or just simply transporting themselfs from 1 place to another. Occasionally, you will find a lost soul and therefore, just stay alert. Posto 2 1/2, 3 and 4 1/2 is where you are on full "EN GARD".

The troubled areas of the beach-side of Copa goes simultaniously with the locations of the metro stations.

"The rats"or the lost souls are usuall between posto 2 and 3, corresponding cardeal arcovado and siquera campos and posto 6 and 7, corresponding general osorio and cantagalo.

Their strategy is group-wise attacking from general osorio towards cantagalo. If they get in trouble they either use the metro as a decoy or, if it is an amateur, actually use the metro. Same goes for between posto 2 and 3.

Look out for Bikes and the combination shorts / t-shirt / flip-flop (or bare-foot). Don't immediately panick, just stay alert. Locals will usually attire themselves differently then "The Rats".

Then there are "The Wiseguys". Usually asking for a lighter / cigarette or something else. Especially when you are white as hell. Just think about it: why would an obvious carioca communicate in brasil-portuguese to an obvious gringo? Doesn't make sense.

I hope nobody will repeat the next one, since it applies to any country especially USA, Brasil, Morocco and France: Never ever go by foot and alone to your hotel when you are drunk or tipsy. If your self awareness weakens, just take an Uber. It doesn't matter if you look like The Rock or Kamala Harris's dick, they will try. Some taxis in the night are also dangerous depending on their pick-up location.

If you want my advice: Nothing good comes after 2 in the night. The choices during the day are better and more.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2939637]1. Yes, I recall it being quite high, like 200-300 R depending on time of night. The girls charge 500-800 on top, but may be more willin to shack with you if it's late at night and they live far outside of the city (gap in service, need a place to stay). Ive personally had as low as 600 LT including exit fee, but its rare I speak a little Porto, I vibed with the girl and she really wanted to leave lol.

2. Yes, total ST amount for girl somewhere around 600 R.

3. Yes, see above.

Also, there is a 100 R fee (gets 2 drinks) for entry. You can sometimes negotiate down to 60-80 R depending on time of week and if you're in a group.[/QUOTE]But totally worth it. In my Honest opinion, the best nightclub / stripperbar whatever you want to call it, in Copa. There is something about the atmosphere and the girls that breathes breeding. Just experience it on a good day. By the way: 5 out of 7 nights is a good night in Casablanca which is pretty good for a Copa joint.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2940367]Staying at JW Copa in a few weeks. Day time will be tourist stuff, copa spas and maybe a day at centro prives.

Questions. Is it safe to walk to places like Casablanca or DV from JW at night, or is a taxi or uber advised? Seems like a 15 minute walk. Both places open late.

Also, any recent stays at JW? From reading threads it's unclear whether they consistently require girl to show ID and register. BTW I actually want them to do that for safety but want to get it clear first.

Finally, is a burner phone recommended? Since my Portuguese is limited I'll be using translator app. Whilst I'm street smart and generally look like someone you don't want to fuck with, stories about iphones getting ripped off in Rio are plentiful.

Obrigado.[/QUOTE]It's not safe late at night, even on Avenida Atlantica. Uber is quick and cheap, so there's really no need to walk at night.

I agree that registering a girl provides more security despite the walk of shame. You can proactively bring her to the counter, and they'll register her.

You're correct about phones. Carry a cheap phone on the street and keep your iPhone in the room safe. Even so, try not to take your cheap phone out on the street, unless you must.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2940566]It's not safe late at night, even on Avenida Atlantica. Uber is quick and cheap, so there's really no need to walk at night...
Even so, try not to take your cheap phone out on the street.[/QUOTE]How do expect somebody to call a Uber without a phone?

Just about everybody walks around with their phones. No problem as long as you're careful.

If you use your common sense there is no problem walking along Avenida Atlântica at late hours. If you don't use common sense it doesn't matter if it's daytime or nighttime. I've seen much more victims having their necklesses, phones and bags stolen at daytime than at late hours.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2939755]Maybe you can be my editor, to improve my incredibly poor writing (actually incredibly tired writing which I should avoid, in all fairness).

Vagabundo linked up with 2 other ISGers on Friday, having been delayed by traffic. One was a new to town monger and gamer who shall remain unnamed who is a scholar and a gentleman for waiting on the 2nd floor of the Mcdonalds at Metro Uruguiana along with 2 other ISGers, both quality dudes too, and wingmen. Now is actually the optimal time of year to be in town as the best girls are coming back to the prives to get the cash they need.

We patrolled over to Darkroom, and I hit a regular for a good 30 minutes of actual sex shag after which she gave me a weak massage, but I session with her due to her other features. Anyway, you can always get a solid girl there. And the open air area where you can socialize makes it a very minimal but workable boate kind of feel not just a prive.

We went down to 1417 in the same building which had some good talent including a new negra, ariela. One wingman was immediately jealous of the ole vagabundo direct approach of getting numbers in the line up. It is true, Vagabundo like all men with penises is at heart a selfish bastard. Glad to share, glad to get in the line, even at the end.

We four musketeers were crossing Rio Branco. Vagabundo was late to a event at the Swiss Consulate in Gloria where he expected some kick boxing French exchange student to give a particular aula (class) nekid, along with a certain Brazilian student who teaches samba lessons, also nekid, fresh off her nekid piano duet with the Russian exchange student who taught Vagabundo all the words in the hit song, I got love, which they danced together. Let's face it, at 90 -- almost 91 years old -- Vagabundo aint doing samba like he used to when he was 87. But the enormous girth of my 17 centimeter long Bratwurst always hits the g-spot with my uncircumcised German. Italian pepperoni. Show me a man without an ego and I will show you a loser every time. But, being a bad wingman, Vagabundo took off like a bat out of hell to the closest Bradesco and left his three fellow musketeers in the dust. They were pissed and had to call to ask the exact location of Bel prazer, which is Rio Branco 185/2114, where one of them shagged, apparently.

Vagabundo had shot an enormous wad of jism across the back and ass of the girl up at Darkroom. I mean, I hate to complain, but the whole time she was obsessing over seeing my blood exam. After the deed, I did show it too her and she approved. I mean, it is a good thing to be safe. I will share the contact of the doc who will come out and do a mobile blood draw -- same guy who does 4 x4, which is where I got the contact -- if you PM me and join our whatsapp group.

Vagabundo like Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Henry Miller and Jorge Amado is a writer in the genre of the Literature of Hoaring. We few, we privileged few men of luxury who can enjoy the finer things in life are a brotherhood unto ourselves. In the Rich World Pussy Prisons like 'merika, our brothers with penises use their pricks less, and we would be glad to sympathize, but we are too busy fucking the next hot little piece of ass that comes to Centro, Zona Sul, and Recreio for some money and fun.

Bis bald meine damen und herren.

That's German for later dudes and bitches.[/QUOTE]Will be in Rio in 2 weeks. Where is the "Darkroom' located? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2940772]Will be in Rio in 2 weeks. Where is the "Darkroom' located? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Praça Olavo Bilac 28, cobertura 06, centro.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2940646]How do expect somebody to call a Uber without a phone?

[/QUOTE]You can call Uber from inside a building with security, rather than taking your phone out in the street and also taking your attention off your surroundings in the street.

In this way it is no different from any other place.

In some regards, good sense is the same everywhere.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2940772]Will be in Rio in 2 weeks. Where is the "Darkroom' located? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Darkroom.

Praça Olavo Bilac 28, cobertura 06 (centro-rj).

[URL]https://www.darkroom.com.br/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2940646]How do expect somebody to call a Uber without a phone?[/QUOTE]I think he meant something like keep the phone in the pocket and avoid using it on the street.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2940646]How do expect somebody to call a Uber without a phone?

Just about everybody walks around with their phones. No problem as long as you're careful.

If you use your common sense there is no problem walking along Avenida Atlntica at late hours. If you don't use common sense it doesn't matter if it's daytime or nighttime. I've seen much more victims having their necklesses, phones and bags stolen at daytime than at late hours.[/QUOTE]It's easy to push anything to the level of absurdity.

Look, I respect your expertise. You've been to Brazil god knows how many times, you speak the language, know local customs, etc.

But you're still a gringo. You stick out like a sore thumb. To a Rio scum you must be rich and carry the newest tech. In other words, you're automatically a target.

And even if you aren't, a typical Rio newbie definitely is.

Of course, one needs a phone to order Uber or answer a call. But one might want to limit their exposure by avoiding a pointless selfie or delaying a pointless SMS or walking into a store for those purposes. How hard is that?

The same logic applies to walking down deserted Av. Atlantica late at night. How is common sense going to protect you when a few street kids are swarming around? And why put yourself in this position to begin with? An Uber ride will cost you $2-3 wherever you're going. Why take even the slightest risk?

That said, I've done it all. I've used my phone in the open and walked down Atlantica and even side streets in the wee hours of the morning. But I know it's dumb because being safe isn't that hard or costly anyway.

[QUOTE=Agpov;2940797]You can call Uber from inside a building with security, rather than taking your phone out in the street and also taking your attention off your surroundings in the street.[/QUOTE]I don't understand you, Xpartan and other guys that exaggerate the danger in Copacabana. Being alert and aware is good, but not being paranoid and acting like you never travelled outside your home city. It just shows that you're scared. The thieves will smell your fear, just like dogs, and target you.

[QUOTE=TermasCowboys;2940790]Praa Olavo Bilac 28, cobertura 06, centro.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I just meet a girl from [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro.[/URL] She gave me that address.

Like in boates and termas, if a GP didn't comply with what you had agreed with beforehand, you can complain to the managers. You won't get your money back, but the GP might get in trouble if it isn't the first time a gringo complains about her. If we keep our mouths shut, then sooner or later all GPS will learn that they can easily scam the gringos with no repercussion. A little solidarity among us can go a long way to helping everybody. What do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2940566]It's not safe late at night, even on Avenida Atlantica. Uber is quick and cheap, so there's really no need to walk at night.

I agree that registering a girl provides more security despite the walk of shame. You can proactively bring her to the counter, and they'll register her.

You're correct about phones. Carry a cheap phone on the street and keep your iPhone in the room safe. Even so, try not to take your cheap phone out on the street, unless you must.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I agree why walk when uber is available at night. From videos of CB and DV it looks like yellow cabs and transport are not issues at night hours. Being from a large pretty rough US city I will naturally keep toward the safe side. I am going to use a cheaper 2nd phone and put my iphone in JW safe when out mongering. I could care less about walk shame. Having her ID at front desk and letting her know beforehand that is nonnegotiable is a must for me. Give her 2nd thoughts of pulling any shit in room; even though that will be pretty shitbag proof as well. Hell I don't even trust the maid. Toothbrush and anything I ingest is in the safe when I travel.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2941439]Thanks. I agree why walk when uber is available at night. From videos of CB and DV it looks like yellow cabs and transport are not issues at night hours. Being from a large pretty rough US city I will naturally keep toward the safe side. I am going to use a cheaper 2nd phone and put my iphone in JW safe when out mongering. I could care less about walk shame. Having her ID at front desk and letting her know beforehand that is nonnegotiable is a must for me. Give her 2nd thoughts of pulling any shit in room; even though that will be pretty shitbag proof as well. Hell I don't even trust the maid. Toothbrush and anything I ingest is in the safe when I travel.[/QUOTE]At the JW, they will require an original paper ID or the digital version on the govt website from the girl when you register her. The front desk will not accept a copy or pdf. Before you take her home from the boate, make sure she shows you the ID. I have had to wait for the manager to clear her without this original bullshit.

Any areas to stay that are more tranquil and peaceful but still has access to girls so I'm not left bored? I have a week in Rio and I'm imagining something more relaxed with a hot tub deck with a view I can bang girls on. Does barra the tijuca have enough action? How hard is it to get girls to your place there? I'm good with massage type fun too, I saw some post about how out in floripa nuru massage is abundant since the girls are more "spiritual" types.

Hi gents,

I will be going to Rio for the first time in a few weeks and staying at the Sheraton Grand Rio. I would appreciate any recommendations on places near the hotel. I see the posts about Casablanca and Dolce Vita and plan to check them out. Are there any good sites to line up some company?

TIA!

TN.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2935421]USD: BRL 5. 7228 = time to load up on Petrobas, PE <4 and loads of other good stuff, including stellar sex with beautiful young women at $USD 104 a peronite (or less for longer periods). As I type this my wife (for this week) has her mouth full of my cock, so I'll make it a short post.

Enjoy the currency ride.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;2936404]The going rate is whatever you decide to pay. Girls can ask for whatever they want, but it's your decision whether you want to pay it or counter with your own price. Many DV girls have quoted 5-600 R for one hour and I quickly counter with much less. (Please understand that these working girls have an amazing network on WhatsApp. Whatever amount you pay, will be shared within 24 hours.) I have heard many idiots get on online and say, "I am not going to spend all this money for my flight and hotel just to be cheap with the girls. " Then these same dumbasses are the first ones to complain that the girls are asking for one hour when they used to stay all night for the same price![/QUOTE]Look at the first quote, there is your answer. Americans are massive inflators because of the strong USD. Although many of them don't understand it themselves.

[QUOTE=TnGentleman2;2941871]Hi gents,

I will be going to Rio for the first time in a few weeks and staying at the Sheraton Grand Rio. I would appreciate any recommendations on places near the hotel. I see the posts about Casablanca and Dolce Vita and plan to check them out. Are there any good sites to line up some company?

TIA!

TN.[/QUOTE]The Sheraton Grand is a secluded hotel, between Leblon and Sao Conrado (they claim it's in Leblon, but it's not). There are no "places" nearby aside from some good and pricey Leblon restaurants. Casablanca and Dolce Vita are far away from the Grand, just check the distance on the Google map. They have a free shuttle to Copa, but the bus can take up to an hour in traffic, although as I understand they do have the Sao Conrado metro section nearby, so it shouldn't be too bad. The hotel itself is gorgeous with a small beach that feels private (although it's not), huge and beautiful pool and a view to die for if you get the right room. The lobby is a circus, so bringing girls shouldn't be hard at all, as long as she doesn't look or act like a skunk.

Anyone been to 707 lately? Its in an office building in Centro.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2942018]Anyone been to 707 lately? Its in an office building in Centro.[/QUOTE]I passed by Stellas Hollywood in March. The last years, after the famous Kelly and her colleague Sol (absolutely huge natural tits and slim waist) both got married, I've found no interesting girls at Stellas. Still it's worth checking out. Stellas used to have another less-known puteiro at Rua Santa Luzia 405. This is where Stellas used to put her newbies before moving them to Rua Ouvidor. I had one of my best gems at that place. A 18 year old gorgeous girl with large tits who begged me to try out her cuzinho as well. Rua Santa Luzia 405 is a little bit off so I havn't been there for some years.

I will be vacationing in South America for two months. This is my first time going to South America. Which is better, Rio or Medellíand? I prefer women with smooth skin and big ass, as well as good food. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank a lot!

Hey guys, I will be vacationing in South America for two months. This is my first time in South America. Which is better, Rio or Medellíand? I prefer women with smooth skin and big ass, as well as good food. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2941915]The Sheraton Grand is a secluded hotel, between Leblon and Sao Conrado (they claim it's in Leblon, but it's not). There are no "places" nearby aside from some good and pricey Leblon restaurants. Casablanca and Dolce Vita are far away from the Grand, just check the distance on the Google map. They have a free shuttle to Copa, but the bus can take up to an hour in traffic, although as I understand they do have the Sao Conrado metro section nearby, so it shouldn't be too bad. The hotel itself is gorgeous with a small beach that feels private (although it's not), huge and beautiful pool and a view to die for if you get the right room. The lobby is a circus, so bringing girls shouldn't be hard at all, as long as she doesn't look or act like a skunk.[/QUOTE]X,

Although I am not a big fan of the Sheraton brand, I considered staying there in the past when their night rate was kind of reasonable, but I heard the adjacent small beach was unkempt and not clean, so I passed on the opportunity. How is that beach in your opinion? My feeling is I would rather stay somewhere on Praia daa Barra the Tijuca, which is my favorite RJ beach, if I wanted to trade the Copa / Ipanema location advantage for the more enjoyable daytime beach scene. The Hyatt is way out there, but it is a better hotel than the Sheraton and it is on the nicest stretch of natural beach in Rio. IMHO. Travel time is 30 minutes minimum to Solarium, 45 minutes minimum to 4 x4, but only a few minutes to Perola Negra.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2941902]Look at the first quote, there is your answer. Americans are massive inflators because of the strong USD. Although many of them don't understand it themselves.[/QUOTE]The US dollar is very strong now worldwide. Americans are living it up right now travelling everywhere. A buddy of mine went to Spain recently and saw Americans in the most remote untouristy regions which he had never seen before.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2941902]Look at the first quote, there is your answer. Americans are massive inflators because of the strong USD. Although many of them don't understand it themselves.[/QUOTE]This is true, but the Euro has been hanging in there and also buys a lot of Brazilian Real.

So Brazil is relatively on-sale right now for both Americans and Europeans.

[QUOTE=Evan1;2942066]Hey guys, I will be vacationing in South America for two months. This is my first time in South America. Which is better, Rio or Medelland? I prefer women with smooth skin and big ass, as well as good food. Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]This question comes up from time to time. You might not get an objective answer here on the Rio thread, but I have been to both and prefer Rio. Here are Rio's advantages in my opinion:

The passion of Brazilian escorts has to be noted first and foremost.

Brazilian women are known for their natural curves. I say natural because you will find butt implants in both countries, but more Brasileiras are naturally gifted in the ass dept.

Rio is a big, cosmopolitan if you enjoy that. So more diverse and better food options in most cases.

Beaches (Cartagena does not compare to the Rio sex scene.).

Rio has more ethnic diversity than Colombia. You will find light skin blondes, redheads and dark-complexed girls. So yes, you will also find girls with smooth skin.

Rio has a larger sex industry than any Colombian city. So you will find more women to choose from over a lengthy stay.

Colombia is easier to get to for Americans. Guys seem to go there to find girlfriends as well.

[QUOTE=Evan1;2942066]Hey guys, I will be vacationing in South America for two months. This is my first time in South America. Which is better, Rio or Medelland? I prefer women with smooth skin and big ass, as well as good food. Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]This horn dog loves the Rio bitches!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2942046]I passed by Stellas Hollywood in March. The last years, after the famous Kelly and her colleague Sol (absolutely huge natural tits and slim waist) both got married, I've found no interesting girls at Stellas. Still it's worth checking out. Stellas used to have another less-known puteiro at Rua Santa Luzia 405. This is where Stellas used to put her newbies before moving them to Rua Ouvidor. I had one of my best gems at that place. A 18 year old gorgeous girl with large tits who begged me to try out her cuzinho as well. Rua Santa Luzia 405 is a little bit off so I havn't been there for some years.[/QUOTE]Ok, Thanks for the info. I will check out 707 and Stellas.

[QUOTE=Evan1;2942066]Hey guys, I will be vacationing in South America for two months. This is my first time in South America. Which is better, Rio or Medelland? I prefer women with smooth skin and big ass, as well as good food. Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]I think I have a good objective perspective having done Rio, SP and Mde. A little depends on how you like to roll. I love the club scene so I am biased that way. Here are my thoughts.

MDE. Fish in a barrel on Facebook. If you want a cheap and pretty girl to come to your place for a bit MDE is great for this. For clubs MDE sucks. Overpriced. Over siliconed. No contest with Brasil.

Rio. Club scene is better than MDE but pales in comparison w So Paulo. Termas like Monte Carlo and Solarium have pretty girls and reasonable prices IMO. Obviously the most beautiful locale of the three.

So Paulo Best club scene in the world. Scandallo is frankly the best venue in the world IMO if you have coin to spend. But also gems at Casarao or Bomboa. Some guys like the daytime Clinica scene. Not my thing but a big plus that So Paulo has both.

Summary for me is I'the only go to MDE for a short time because it's close to USA. But otherwise it's my least preferred venue. Rio is a nice balance of scenery and girls but can't compare to SP for girls. Girls scene is hands down best in So Paulo.

It's only an hour flight between SP and Rio. Def do both given the amount of time you have. I'the do Rio first because it's going to disappoint after So Paulo (assuming you like clubs and have coin). And don’t get me wrong. It’s better than most places worldwide but just not as good as SP.

Ps a previous poster noted brasileras are a different breed. Absolutely true. Once u have had true in country Brasilera (not the ones they export to Europe) u will be ruined for life. lol.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2942213]

Ps a previous poster noted brasileras are a different breed. Absolutely true. Once u have had true in country Brasilera (not the ones they export to Europe) u will be ruined for life. lol.[/QUOTE]Truer words never spoken. I have done this all over the world with all kinds of girls and there is nothing better than a Brazilian in Brazil. Even the Brazilian girls that are exported to Europe and Mexico and the United States just can't compete with the ones on the ground. And I just love the structure of the clubs and termas in Brazil.

I just realized it's 20 years since I've been to Brazil. So I'm going back in January. I'm grateful to this forum and to Steve in particular for the words of wisdom. I'm glad to see some of my favorites are still around and I look forward to exploring some new places and sharing my adventures here.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2942095]X,

Although I am not a big fan of the Sheraton brand, I considered staying there in the past when their night rate was kind of reasonable, but I heard the adjacent small beach was unkempt and not clean, so I passed on the opportunity. How is that beach in your opinion? My feeling is I would rather stay somewhere on Praia daa Barra the Tijuca, which is my favorite RJ beach, if I wanted to trade the Copa / Ipanema location advantage for the more enjoyable daytime beach scene. The Hyatt is way out there, but it is a better hotel than the Sheraton and it is on the nicest stretch of natural beach in Rio. IMHO. Travel time is 30 minutes minimum to Solarium, 45 minutes minimum to 4 x4, but only a few minutes to Perola Negra.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that I stayed there 10 years ago during the World Cup. At that time, the beach was clean from what I could tell, with almost no one there. Other than that, I liked the beach because it's sheltered, unlike "normal" Rio beaches, including the one across from the Hyatt.

As to the hotels, they couldn't be more different. The Sheraton is a high rise, while the Hyatt has a distinct resort feel. But the views from the Sheraton can be out of this world if you get a higher-floor room. Absolutely gorgeous!

Both locations would be fun options to wife-up, IMHO, especially if you get an upgraded room.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2942207]Ok, Thanks for the info. I will check out 707 and Stellas.[/QUOTE]Isn't 707 where Stellas is?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2942213] Rio is a nice balance of scenery and girls but can't compare to SP for girls. Girls scene is hands down best in So Paulo.[/QUOTE]Is this based on you liking the club scene or just because there's hotter women? More selection? Prices? Attitudes?

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2942147]Rio has a larger sex industry than any Colombian city. So you will find more women to choose from over a lengthy stay.

[/QUOTE]I agree with most except I think Medellin has far larger quantity or higher density. A lot of it is hidden so it may not be obvious. I can see many who are used to Medellin won't like Rio as much because the outcall type in Medellin is larger and easier once you get over the learning curve. It is also much cheaper. If you like kissing, Brazil absolutely wins. If you like cowgirl, Medellin wins. If you like party with the girls in the clubs or at your place, Medellin wins. If you want to go to a club for P4 P, Brazil wins. Another is cost, you will be spending at least 150/date x 60 in Brazil with less time vs 75/date x 60 with more time in Medellin. And double that if you have trio. I am talking about outcalls in general here based on MY experience and taste and what I like to do. If you stayed longer, you are unlikely to be satisfy with 1 hour session everyday. Brazil is more turnkey so I think it is better for short trip despite the distance, there is a much higher learning curve in Medellin but YMMV

[QUOTE=DrPistol;2942266]Is this based on you liking the club scene or just because there's hotter women? More selection? Prices? Attitudes?[/QUOTE]Let's just take Scandallo as the pinnacle. Go look at the website and do the virtual tour. It's accurate but if anything undersells it. There is NOTHING even remotely close to this in Rio. Now add 200 girls all dressed hot as fuck and ranging from 7-9+. There is nothing remotely close to this in Rio or to be fair anywhere else in this planet.

OK let's move just a hair down market to Bomboa. Lovely supper club atmosphere. Still piles of girls. Again no comparison in Rio. No club like this.

And then let's final the way down to Casarao. More a bar. Lots of locals. Not too luxe but not divey. Prob at least 100 girls in there prob more after midnight. Now these are not all 7+ quality of Scandallo but gems to be found. There are places in Rio more like this quality / scale I suppose. But I still think it's better than the Rio clubs.

So yeah I am biased to luxe venues and quantities of hot girls. Scandallo cannot be touched for this and that includes everywhere worldwide. Seriously the best luxe club on the planet. Every man must go!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2941693]At the JW, they will require an original paper ID or the digital version on the govt website from the girl when you register her. The front desk will not accept a copy or pdf. Before you take her home from the boate, make sure she shows you the ID. I have had to wait for the manager to clear her without this original bullshit.[/QUOTE]Thank you for notice. I think I'm set with what prives, termas, outcall sites. My last question is any bars / restaurants with bars / hotel bars clubs relatively close to JW Marriott that have working girls looking for clients other than DV and Casablanca? I'm looking for places late afternoon early evening that could have some garata choices. Problem with DV is it opens at 11 pm which is late if one is doing tourist stuff during day hours.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2942440]Thank you for notice. I think I'm set with what prives, termas, outcall sites. My last question is any bars / restaurants with bars / hotel bars clubs relatively close to JW Marriott that have working girls looking for clients other than DV and Casablanca? I'm looking for places late afternoon early evening that could have some garata choices. Problem with DV is it opens at 11 pm which is late if one is doing tourist stuff during day hours.[/QUOTE]There is always Mabs, although I've never found any gems there even though I often stay at Hilton. But might be just my experience.

Hi everyone,

Look time lurker, this is my first post and report. As you will see I have been mostly using local website and gparena to bang girls around here.

Website I used the most were [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL] and gparena. The combination of those two usually give good results on what to expect.

I also went on some massagista registry and of course [URL]photoacompananthes.com[/URL] but its a bit random on those. All prices are for one hour. My place was a flat in Ipanema rented via Airbnb, I made sure with the owner there was no issue bringing people in. So lets start:

Maya - 450 - spa in copacabana / my place- nuru + sex - [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/terapeutas/maya-terapeuta/[/URL].

Stunning girl,: face and ass are a 10, tits are 7 cause babies but honnestly I don't care, best smile ever. She was supposed to give me a nuru massage for 350. Of course half way trough I was only thinking of something else. I m naked, she's naked, lets fuck. At my surprise she s up for it for only an extra 100. Considering the nuru is in a super clean facility and she is great at it, 450 for a nuru and a fuck with miss Brazil its a no brainer. We go straight for a 69, I could look at that ass for hours, too bad she don't do anal but still, I go doggy, then mish and well looking at her pretty face moaning, both of us moist and wet, I shot my shot. Due to a copious amount of nuru gel on my dick before she put the condom on, a accident happend during action, and we both only notice when I finished that it was actually bareback. So yeah if you want a nuru with top facilities and a nice girl that go all the way, she fit the bill. She look even better in real life than on her photos. I did repeat but this time directly at my place, it was ok but not as good as the first time, maybe cause no nuru foreplay, but it also felt she was on the clock or something.

Melissa - 500 (anal included) - at her place - [URL]https://fatalmodel.com/1663951/melissa-1663951[/URL].

Melissa ad is quite clear, she ask for 500 but her ass is yours for one hour and she is a red head with fair skin, kinda a rarity around here. I couldn't fuck Maya in the ass, so lets be it, I m going to bang that little Melissa to heaven. She got a flat in Ipanema, which is super convenient as I m in that area too. A short walk and I m in her bedroom undressing her. She is not as pretty as Maya but being real, not many women are. She is still cute though and ass fucking a cute girl is always going to give a grin on my face. I can tell she really like it. The whole sex sessions felt like a hardcore porno, she was up for absolutly anything. I did a fair share of the kama sutra anal style then a bit of pussy then again back in the ass. I didn't have such great sex in a long time. She s a trooper. And after I finished, she was still asking for more. She gave me a killer blowjob and I was up again. A quickie and I was done for good this time. Sex was a 10 the girl is 6, her pics a slightly photoshoped. A bit pricey overall but a good fuck.

Yasmeen - 190 (anal included) - at my place - [URL]https://fatalmodel.com/1703621/yasmim-fernandes-1703621[/URL].

Best overall value of the trip. A 20 years old hottie girl next door type but she s a crazy nympho. We started gentle, but once anal was started I put her into pornstar mode. Hand on my chest, reverse cowgirl spread legs anal style. Such a good little * I ve repeated 2 times. She has a girl next door uni student look, which make inviting her to your place discreet, and when you realize she so nasty, it s just too good.

Eva Sanchez - 300 (anal included) - in centro - [URL]https://gparena.net/social-feed-user.php?id=20751[/URL].

A local legend with nearly 250 review on gparena. I wanted to see for myself what locals consider a great woman.

I was a bit nervous as it was my first foray in the centro district and the whole local scene. Eva was great at communicating and even manage some english to help me out. The door open, and holy shit, she is super small and super cute. I can't presume it was my face or just she was in a good mood but she was so charming, it was disarming. We french kiss, she speak a bit of english and a bit of french, marvelous. We start the whole thing after a shower and wow, best blowjob so far. She is really skilled. Then its sex time, pussy and ass on the menu, she is great. Thats when come the second great thing about that session, the social time. I m not much into social time with working girl cause to me its all fake and just small talk and I won't remember anything about it in the next hour. I m just too cynical to care. But I got to say, speaking with her in my native language and making genuine jokes made me appreciate her even more, its one thing to being cute but her being genuinely friendly is kinda unexpected. Then we fuck some more, actually we fuck so much and then talk again for so long that the one hour session is already at 90 minutes. Its kinda the first time I see that happen, can't complain but I kinda feel uneasy when I notice it and I think her too. We agree its time to end that whole thing and I go on my merry way with a big smile. A couple hours later, she message me just to tell me she really enjoyed her time. What can I say, she is amazing and do the best blowjob in Rio and that ass.

Clara. Just nuru - 350 - [URL]https://destackterapias.com/a/clara-2/[/URL].

I got cocky following the nice time with Maya the week before and tough I could fuck any massagista. Sadly Clara wasnt into full services. A real shame as the is super cute and has such a nice ass. Anyway the nuru was nice and she is fluent in english which is a plus. She even prettier in real life than on her picture and got a ass to die for.

Bruna - 230 - Onyx Terapias centro - [URL]https://onixterapias.com[/URL].

Onyx terapia is well known locally and on this forum. Brazlians jokely refer to it s the Matrix. I didn't get why until I went there. ID check, face scan, qr code, dozen of elevators, then a corridor with endless doors that look alike. Yeah its the Matrix allright; Unless you have the exact door number you couldn't suspect a thing. Once inside the parlor / brothel, you can choose the room, normal or vip. Take vip, normal room are way too small. You got to book the girl in advance. After reading Gparena, I saw that Bruna was the talk of the town these days, so I went for her. Wasnt disapointed, a 20 something cute and shy girl that do passionate love making. The total GFE. Worth every penny.

I m stil in Rio for a week, I might try another termas / prive or plan a threesome, not sure yet.

Regarding the regular dating scene, I ll say without speaking fluent portuguese its hard. I manage to bang one from Tinder but it was so so, I guess I got spoiled hehe.

[QUOTE=SpikeSpiegel3;2942736]Hi everyone,

Look time lurker, this is my first post and report. As you will see I have been mostly using local website and gparena to bang girls around here.

Website I used the most were [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL] and gparena. The combination of those two usually give good results on what to expect.

I also went on some massagista registry and of course [URL]photoacompananthes.com[/URL] but its a bit random on those. All prices are for one hour. My place was a flat in Ipanema rented via Airbnb, I made sure with the owner there was no issue bringing people in. So lets start:

Maya - 450 - spa in copacabana / my place- nuru + sex - [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/terapeutas/maya-terapeuta/[/URL].

Stunning girl,: face and ass are a 10, tits are 7 cause babies but honnestly I don't care, best smile ever. She was supposed to give me a nuru massage for 350. Of course half way trough I was only thinking of something else. I m naked, she's naked, lets fuck. At my surprise she s up for it for only an extra 100. Considering the nuru is in a super clean facility and she is great at it, 450 for a nuru and a fuck with miss Brazil its a no brainer..[/QUOTE]Outstanding report!! Please share more from your last week.

[QUOTE=SpikeSpiegel3;2942736]Hi everyone,

Look time lurker, this is my first post and report. As you will see I have been mostly using local website and gparena to bang girls around here.

Website I used the most were [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL] and gparena. The combination of those two usually give good results on what to expect.

I also went on some massagista registry and of course [URL]photoacompananthes.com[/URL] but its a bit random on those. All prices are for one hour. My place was a flat in Ipanema rented via Airbnb, I made sure with the owner there was no issue bringing people in. So lets start:[/QUOTE]Good first post, lots of actionable information especially for newbies to Rio and those who like online services. Good to hear you also had a good time during your stay. Look forward to future reports.

[QUOTE=SpikeSpiegel3;2942736]Hi everyone,

Website I used the most were [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL] and gparena. The combination of those two usually give good results on what to expect.

Maya - 450 - spa in copacabana / my place- nuru + sex - [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/terapeutas/maya-terapeuta/[/URL].

Clara. Just nuru - 350 - [URL]https://destackterapias.com/a/clara-2/[/URL].

Bruna - 230 - Onyx Terapias centro - [URL]https://onixterapias.com[/URL].

Onyx terapia is well known locally and on this forum. ID check, face scan, qr code, dozen of elevators, then a corridor with endless doors that look alike.

[/QUOTE]Really nice write up and useful as my trip couple weeks. Few questions:

1. I understand from forum posts everything negotiated upfront in prives. But it seems from your write up the "massage" shops it is not the case? Don't want to spend $R350 on a girl who has no intention to fuck and only massage. Can you ask them upfront before pay?

2. Onyx sounds like nightmare with security. Definitely no one is scanning me. Were other centro privys same bullshit or is it good enough to have passport photo on your phone for ID?

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2942768]Good first post, lots of actionable information especially for newbies to Rio and those who like online services. Good to hear you also had a good time during your stay. Look forward to future reports.[/QUOTE]Yes! It seems der Speigel has been spiking them butt holes! Hahaha!

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2942836]Really nice write up and useful as my trip couple weeks. Few questions:

1. I understand from forum posts everything negotiated upfront in prives. But it seems from your write up the "massage" shops it is not the case? Don't want to spend $R350 on a girl who has no intention to fuck and only massage. Can you ask them upfront before pay?

2. Onyx sounds like nightmare with security. Definitely no one is scanning me. Were other centro privys same bullshit or is it good enough to have passport photo on your phone for ID?[/QUOTE]1 . Its kinda random, some girl on the massagista website are directly talking to you on whatsapp, so you can ask them for extra upfront, but some other like Clara are employees of a spa and you can only talk to the spa. I don't know if its possible to negociate / ask with the boss directly. So I can only vouch for Maya. On Gparena they is a therapeuta section where you can sometimes get the info about extra on the reports (thanks google translator / deepl).

2. I did show a scan of my passport. Its a huge building and the security is tight but strangely during the whole registration process nobody is asking where you go specifically, you just say the floor you want to go, that's it. Considering there is like dozen and dozen of doors at each floor, its impossible to know what business you here for. But it did feel like I was getting into Fort Knox or something.

Just going to add I did repeat with Eva Sanchez today, I think we clicked, so she took me on her day off, pretty nice of her. I think if I was living full time in Rio I would make her a regular.

A few words about the threesome project, sadly my schedule didn't align with the two girls I wanted (eva sanchez and melissa lima) so I ll pass on that one. But the best and easiest way to have one organized is to check the duplo section of gparena, here you can see all kind of combinations of girls that have previous experience together (meaning they know each other whatsapp and pussys). Bang one solo, then once first contact is established, just ask her for next time to organize you a threesome with her friend. And you good, no hassle to manage the schedule or place, they ll do it for you. Starting price is usually around 600 for one hour for 2 girls.

Also another report I forgot to mention:

Gaby Mystic - 450 (anal included) - my place - [URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/1986099/gaby-enchant[/URL].

She is from the same type as Yasmeen mentionned in my previous post. Uni student, she s super slim (where Yasmeen has a way hotter body IMHO), but she has a cute face and look even more innocent than Yasmeen. Gaby is also a oddity cause she only do two things, BBBJ and anal. You can't fuck her pussy (but you can lick, eat her no pb). She say she s super sensitive and njoy anal more. It took a while to get her going as she s shy but after a while we end up in a super hot position, her riding me, wearing her glasses girl next door type and moaning. I could tell she was into it, moving her head like a shampoo commercial in slow mo LOL. But its easy to see she is not a pro or doing that often, it kinda got messy if you know what I mean. I think overall she should charge little less, being cute and doing anal is one thing, but she s too clumsy / shy. I woudlnt recommend her right now, but maybe 6 months from now she may become real good at it.

[QUOTE=SpikeSpiegel3;2942736]Hi everyone,

Look time lurker, this is my first post and report. [/QUOTE]Enjoyed your report!

[QUOTE=SpikeSpiegel3;2942736]Hi everyone,

Look time lurker, this is my first post and report. As you will see I have been mostly using local website and gparena to bang girls around here.

Website I used the most were [URL]fatalmodel.com[/URL] and gparena. The combination of those two usually give good results on what to expect.

I also went on some massagista registry and of course [URL]photoacompananthes.com[/URL] but its a bit random on those. All prices are for one hour. My place was a flat in Ipanema rented via Airbnb, I made sure with the owner there was no issue bringing people in. So lets start:...........[/QUOTE]Yes, absolutely an outstanding report. While we all appreciate any personal experiences, providing names as well as contact info is exceptionally valuable info.

Thanks for the break down. Well my first time in SP is coming up, so I'll be going! I have a week in SP and a week in Rio. You're starting to make me worry I won't want to leave SP. I have not booked my flight to Rio or hotel yet, maybe I just leave things open for now. I still date regular too, on the dating apps, so maybe Rio will be fun for a mix of that.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2942395]Let's just take Scandallo as the pinnacle. Go look at the website and do the virtual tour. It's accurate but if anything undersells it. There is NOTHING even remotely close to this in Rio. Now add 200 girls all dressed hot as fuck and ranging from 7-9+. There is nothing remotely close to this in Rio or to be fair anywhere else in this planet.

OK let's move just a hair down market to Bomboa. Lovely supper club atmosphere. Still piles of girls. Again no comparison in Rio. No club like this.

And then let's final the way down to Casarao.[/QUOTE]

Was in Rio on Wednesday afternoon and took a girl from 4 x4 for an overnight. I explained what I was looking for and what was expected from her in Portuguese so it wasn't lost in translation and it turned out to another disappointing experience. She did the bare minimum and in the morning, I told her to leave and didn't pay her half the amount. She said that she agreed to a price and I told her that she agreed to certain services. Since she didn't fulfill those services, she doesn't get the reward. So she got paid for what she fulfilled which wasn't anything special. She then wanted to do the work, but I told her nope. You already ruined my mood so get the fuck out.

Past few trips to Rio have been like this. Just very basic service and they expect the guys to pay them top dollar.

I am sure others have had better experiences but this is how mine have been the past few times. At first, I just thought I picked a bad apple. But now I think all the apples are just bad. I don't necessarily have high expectations but I do expect some passion and enthusiasm from the girl. The past few have just been dead fishes.

Hopefully, my luck is better in SP this weekend.

Greetings everyone.

I will be heading to Rio next month with a buddy. He wants to know which hotels specifically allow women as guests? The girls we have contacted so far won't even give us specific info so I was hoping to find it here. I was expecting to stay at a guest friendly AirBnb but they are refusing to come, citing hotels only. He doesn't seem to want to use love motels as an option, so any intel is appreciated.

I've been enjoying Medellin Centro scene for a while now (street walkers, casas and strip clubs). I'm thinking to perhaps give Rio a try but I wonder if within the same (low) pussy budget I will be able to find similar level of service (generally) and have enough options to chose from. Perhaps some Medellin centro rat has been to both places?

I find that I usually don't need to spend more than around 100-120 mil COP (with room included) to get what I want (which is around 1 h of play with bbj). That translates to roughly 135-160 Real.

I'd have to work while in Rio (as I do while in Med), so most of the weekday mongering would have take place between 5 pm and 10 pm.

I prefer to go out and see the girls in person before pulling the trigger, that is to say, I don't like or do online scene.

What, if any, are my options in Rio? (given the 5-10 pm timeframe and say up to 140-160 BRL / h budget constraints).

While nobody confuses me for a local in Medellin, I find the SW scene relatively safe there, all things considered. There are cameras, police always somewhere nearby, it's location is near touristy and normal shopping area and one of the main public transport hubs, with bunch of locals going about their business all day until 6-8 pm, scores of street vendors, without major gang fighting taking place (but with drug sellers, occasional pickpockets, snatch and runs, scams, beggars, homeless, addicts, drunks and with fights sometimes breaking out where the knives appear, but I'm yet to see a gun in centro). One still has to be aware of the surroundings but I don't have a feeling as if they 'hunt gringos' there (I didn't run into any major issues mongering solo there, if anything I feel more on edge in the more affluent less crowded areas of the city). Any insight how does Rio street scene compare to that?

Thanks.

We are 4 guys and will be traveling to Rio Carnival end of Feb. Please suggest 3-4 bedroom apt / condos or similar on or near Copacabana.

Not sure whether we will be bringing girls to the room but chica friendly is preferred just in case.

Pardon me if this has been answered in the past. I just started reading the forum for our upcoming trip so I can start making reservations for the stay.

Thanks!

Interesting intel, where are you talking to these girls who refuse airbnb? In person you should have no issue convincing them to come to the airbnb, especially at places like dolce vita. Hotel generally if you have your own room and book for 2 in a decent busy hotel you'll be able to bring one up. You just never know when you run into hater security though. I'm sure there's some vetted hotel options on the forum.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2943156]Greetings everyone.

I will be heading to Rio next month with a buddy. He wants to know which hotels specifically allow women as guests? The girls we have contacted so far won't even give us specific info so I was hoping to find it here. I was expecting to stay at a guest friendly AirBnb but they are refusing to come, citing hotels only. He doesn't seem to want to use love motels as an option, so any intel is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Brazil is one of the more expensive countries in South America for girls. Colombia is one of the cheapest. Brazil is just different, but if you like cheap cheap I think MDE wins in general. However you might find the girls looks / vibe in Rio more to your preference and for not too much more, sometimes cheaper, I've seen reports on the forum for 70 real specials.

[QUOTE=TonyEm;2943209]I've been enjoying Medellin Centro scene for a while now (street walkers, casas and strip clubs). I'm thinking to perhaps give Rio a try but I wonder if within the same (low) pussy budget I will be able to find similar level of service (generally) and have enough options to chose from. Perhaps some Medellin centro rat has been to both places?

I find that I usually don't need to spend more than around 100-120 mil COP (with room included) to get what I want (which is around 1 h of play with bbj). That translates to roughly 135-160 Real.

I'd have to work while in Rio (as I do while in Med), so most of the weekday mongering would have take place between 5 pm and 10 pm.

I prefer to go out and see the girls in person before pulling the trigger, that is to say, I don't like or do online scene.

What, if any, are my options in Rio? (given the 5-10 pm timeframe and say up to 140-160 BRL / h budget constraints).

While nobody confuses me for a local in Medellin, I find the SW scene relatively safe there, all things considered. There are cameras, police always somewhere nearby, it's location is near touristy and normal shopping area and one of the main public transport hubs, with bunch of locals going about their business all day until 6-8 pm, scores of street vendors, without major gang fighting taking place (but with drug sellers, occasional pickpockets, snatch and runs, scams, beggars, homeless, addicts, drunks and with fights sometimes breaking out where the knives appear, but I'm yet to see a gun in centro). One still has to be aware of the surroundings but I don't have a feeling as if they 'hunt gringos' there (I didn't run into any major issues mongering solo there, if anything I feel more on edge in the more affluent less crowded areas of the city). Any insight how does Rio street scene compare to that?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TonyEm;2943209]I I find the SW scene relatively safe there, all things considered. There are cameras, police always somewhere nearby, it's location is near touristy and normal shopping area and one of the main public transport hubs, with bunch of locals going about their business all day until 6-8 pm, scores of street vendors, without major gang fighting taking place (but with drug sellers, occasional pickpockets, snatch and runs, scams, beggars, homeless, addicts, drunks and with fights sometimes breaking out where the knives appear, but I'm yet to see a gun in centro). One still has to be aware of the surroundings but I don't have a feeling as if they 'hunt gringos' there (I didn't run into any major issues mongering solo there, if anything I feel more on edge in the more affluent less crowded areas of the city). Any insight how does Rio street scene compare to that?

.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, there really isn't a "Street Walker" presence any longer in Rio. 10+ years ago, you would have streetwalkers lined up Atlantico Ave, but that no longer exists. I believe Vagabundo mentioned a SW area near the train station that takes you to Villa Mimosa, maybe he can share some insight.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2943369]As far as I know, there really isn't a "Street Walker" presence any longer in Rio. 10+ years ago, you would have streetwalkers lined up Atlantico Ave, but that no longer exists. I believe Vagabundo mentioned a SW area near the train station that takes you to Villa Mimosa, maybe he can share some insight.[/QUOTE]Quita the Boa Vista has SW, however I see no reason to go there with that close by. There are several other places in Rios outskirts with SW but without a car there is no reason to go there.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2943369]As far as I know, there really isn't a "Street Walker" presence any longer in Rio. 10+ years ago, you would have streetwalkers lined up Atlantico Ave, but that no longer exists. I believe Vagabundo mentioned a SW area near the train station that takes you to Villa Mimosa, maybe he can share some insight.[/QUOTE]Right outside the street of Vila Mimosa there are lots of SW.

Definitely not a safe area tho.

[QUOTE=Desimilk;2943350]We are 4 guys and will be traveling to Rio Carnival end of Feb. Please suggest 3-4 bedroom apt / condos or similar on or near Copacabana.

Not sure whether we will be bringing girls to the room but chica friendly is preferred just in case.

Pardon me if this has been answered in the past. I just started reading the forum for our upcoming trip so I can start making reservations for the stay.

Thanks![/QUOTE]JWMarriot Copacabana was cool with bringing ladies, as long as they weren't dressed like strippers.

Anyone know what time the earliest places get started? Termas I see usually start around 2 pm, where can I get some morning fun?

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2943123]Was in Rio on Wednesday afternoon and took a girl from 4 x4 for an overnight. I explained what I was looking for and what was expected from her in Portuguese so it wasn't lost in translation and it turned out to another disappointing experience. She did the bare minimum and in the morning, I told her to leave and didn't pay her half the amount. She said that she agreed to a price and I told her that she agreed to certain services. Since she didn't fulfill those services, she doesn't get the reward. So she got paid for what she fulfilled which wasn't anything special. She then wanted to do the work, but I told her nope. You already ruined my mood so get the fuck out.

Past few trips to Rio have been like this. Just very basic service and they expect the guys to pay them top dollar.

I am sure others have had better experiences but this is how mine have been the past few times. At first, I just thought I picked a bad apple. But now I think all the apples are just bad. I don't necessarily have high expectations but I do expect some passion and enthusiasm from the girl. The past few have just been dead fishes.

Hopefully, my luck is better in SP this weekend.[/QUOTE]I'm curious as to what services you require that many of the Brasileiras won't deliver.

[QUOTE=DrPistol;2943075]Thanks for the break down. Well my first time in SP is coming up, so I'll be going! I have a week in SP and a week in Rio. You're starting to make me worry I won't want to leave SP. I have not booked my flight to Rio or hotel yet, maybe I just leave things open for now. I still date regular too, on the dating apps, so maybe Rio will be fun for a mix of that.[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo versus Rio is always the big question here.

If all you are interested in doing is scoring top quality girls, spend more time in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo also has great restaurants if that appeals to you. Otherwise, it's a big, interior city. Sure you can go to Ibirapuera park, but in itself it's not really a reason to go to Sao Paulo.

If you enjoy beach time and a beautiful coastal setting, don't short change Rio. Some of us like the beach and tourist diversions in Rio. I love the Brazilian girls parading around the beach. There are plenty of working girls around the city. It's just harder to find Scandallo quality girls, but remember you are paying up for them too. Some guys also like the Rio termas vibe that is different from the Sao Paulo night club vibe.

There really is no definitive answer to the question Rio or Sao Paulo.

Thanks! I looked at JW Marriot. For carnival time, the lowest rates are around $700 a night.

[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;2943495]JWMarriot Copacabana was cool with bringing ladies, as long as they weren't dressed like strippers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrPistol;2943615]Anyone know what time the earliest places get started? Termas I see usually start around 2 pm, where can I get some morning fun?[/QUOTE]The doctor wakes up first thing in the morning with the pistol loaded hahaha! Well then, maybe you need to get a girl and keep her overnight to have her at your disposal since staff and working girls alike need some time alone to themselves to get some sleep or whatever. First thing early in the morning would be tough I think unless you've already got a desirable piece of ass laying in bed beside you.

[QUOTE=DrPistol;2943615]Anyone know what time the earliest places get started? Termas I see usually start around 2 pm, where can I get some morning fun?[/QUOTE]I also enjoy early sessions, not as least because I enjoy being the first customer of the day. Many privées opens at 10 AM, some even opens at 9 AM. Around 10 AM is a good time to visit privées before the lunch customers turn up. If you want to session earlier than 9 AM your only option would be VM. I have never been at VM that early, but it's open 24 hs so there should be some GPS available.

[QUOTE=Desimilk;2943686]Thanks! I looked at JW Marriot. For carnival time, the lowest rates are around $700 a night.[/QUOTE]Right. I imagine Carnival is crazy. But, after that. A great place.

This is an excellent highlight comparison of the 2 cities. Girly wise, SP has clinicas and boates. RJ has prives and termas. It is hard to predict which town will capture the heart of any 1st time traveler, they both have their positives, so if one has the time, I think it is best to check out both places to see which town you prefer. Some like SP best (yours truly), some prefer RJ, and some like both towns. Even if it turns out that the 1st time punter prefers the action in SP over RJ, the iconic coastal scenery of RJ should not be missed.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2943645]Sao Paulo versus Rio is always the big question here.

If all you are interested in doing is scoring top quality girls, spend more time in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo also has great restaurants if that appeals to you. Otherwise, it's a big, interior city. Sure you can go to Ibirapuera park, but in itself it's not really a reason to go to Sao Paulo.

If you enjoy beach time and a beautiful coastal setting, don't short change Rio. Some of us like the beach and tourist diversions in Rio. I love the Brazilian girls parading around the beach. There are plenty of working girls around the city. It's just harder to find Scandallo quality girls, but remember you are paying up for them too. Some guys also like the Rio termas vibe that is different from the Sao Paulo night club vibe.

There really is no definitive answer to the question Rio or Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2943641]I'm curious as to what services you require that many of the Brasileiras won't deliver.[/QUOTE]It isn't exactly a service. It is more of an attitude. It seems that in the club they are cool and ready to have fun. Get to the hotel and it all changes. They become cold and uninviting. I know I could do the deed at the club. But I hate the rooms and I want my hotel room with a comfortable bed and a hot shower. I don't have this issue with the girls I have taken from Scandello in the past few times. Maybe I am just picky.

[QUOTE=TonyEm;2943209]I've been enjoying Medellin Centro scene for a while now (street walkers, casas and strip clubs). I'm thinking to perhaps give Rio a try but I wonder if within the same (low) pussy budget I will be able to find similar level of service (generally) and have enough options to chose from. Perhaps some Medellin centro rat has been to both places?

I find that I usually don't need to spend more than around 100-120 mil COP (with room included) to get what I want (which is around 1 h of play with bbj). That translates to roughly 135-160 Real.

I'd have to work while in Rio (as I do while in Med), so most of the weekday mongering would have take place between 5 pm and 10 pm.

I prefer to go out and see the girls in person before pulling the trigger, that is to say, I don't like or do online scene.

What, if any, are my options in Rio? (given the 5-10 pm timeframe and say up to 140-160 BRL / h budget constraints).

While nobody confuses me for a local in Medellin, I find the SW scene relatively safe there, all things considered. There are cameras, police always somewhere nearby, it's location is near touristy and normal shopping area and one of the main public transport hubs, with bunch of locals going about their business all day until 6-8 pm, scores of street vendors, without major gang fighting taking place (but with drug sellers, occasional pickpockets, snatch and runs, scams, beggars, homeless, addicts, drunks and with fights sometimes breaking out where the knives appear, but I'm yet to see a gun in centro). One still has to be aware of the surroundings but I don't have a feeling as if they 'hunt gringos' there (I didn't run into any major issues mongering solo there, if anything I feel more on edge in the more affluent less crowded areas of the city). Any insight how does Rio street scene compare to that?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is kinda a street scene in rio on Copa beach streets starting around 10 pm.

Some of the freelancing girls walk around Dolce vita and Mabs and some just walk around the streets up and down from there.

The trans girl will find you and try to pick pocket you right away.

There are some pretty hot girls I've seen walking around but usually there is a pimp near her and once you approach he shows up and you settle with him or something.

Not worth the risk because I don't want to deal with some deadbeat asshole no matter how hot the girl looks.

I was walking during the day more inside the streets of copa and I just so happen to see this pretty hot black girl.

We locked eyes and smiled and then I just stopped and looked back at her and she looked back and we started talking.

Thought she was a regular civilian girl but turned out to be a semi pro LOL oh well.

She was cool and got her number and she came over my place later that night for 300 br.

One time a buddy and I were hanging out at those little food shacks right by copa beach and we were sitting right where all the people walk into the beach and we were just eyeballing the girls and we made a few eye contacts with some and a few came over to chat.

Some seem like working girls but idk.

None were our types so we didn't ask but you could also probably find some girls like that too.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2943714]The doctor wakes up first thing in the morning with the pistol loaded hahaha! Well then, maybe you need to get a girl and keep her overnight to have her at your disposal since staff and working girls alike need some time alone to themselves to get some sleep or whatever. First thing early in the morning would be tough I think unless you've already got a desirable piece of ass laying in bed beside you.[/QUOTE]RJ is pretty dead in the morning up until 4 pm or so when the termas and some other places start opening up but even then only some girls will actually show up until 6 pm when it starts getting good.

Prives I don't like in RJ so I ignore those because you won't ever get the mind melting passionate carioca fuck in some small bed with a timer.

Probably best to use seeking or meu patrocinio to find some semi pro girls who can hang out during the day or have a girl stay overnight because you won't really find anything until the afternoon.

Online sites like private55 or barras vip or fatal model are the best day time bet as well.

But I usually fill my mornings and afternoon with a trip to someplace fun like a hike or day trip nearby to recharge and get ready for the girls later.

I like DV the best and that only gets good by 1 am.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944299]There are some pretty hot girls I've seen walking around but usually there is a pimp near her and once you approach he shows up and you settle with him or something.

Not worth the risk because I don't want to deal with some deadbeat asshole no matter how hot the girl looks.[/QUOTE]That is funny. Many would say that hookers themselves are deadbeat assholes. Looks like you are hating the player instead of the game.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944415]Mr. Enternational, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.[/QUOTE]I understand you can't get to that hooker with the heart of gold with that dirty ass pimp being in the way. A recently unalived guy from Minnesota would get what I am saying. There was no deadbeat asshole pimp between him and his demise.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944300]RJ is pretty dead in the morning up until 4 pm or so when the termas and some other places start opening up but even then only some girls will actually show up until 6 pm when it starts getting good.

I like DV the best and that only gets good by 1 am.[/QUOTE]DV sounds ridiculous with its opening hours. By 1 am I'm too tired to fuck or in bed.

What about MABs? They're open all day. When do the girls start congregating around?

Saw an old post that the Centro massage spots used to have big promos on Saturday for 80/ hh. I saw Dudas was doing 130/ hh instead of 150/ hh which is decent but hardly an amazing deal.

Perhaps these discounts were during the COVID rebound? Anyone know of places doing Saturday discounts. Because. Hey. Tomorrow is Saturday!!

Greetings,

Fairly new on the ISG side from USG. I'm heading to Brazil with a buddy in a few weeks and I was wondering what were some must things to see and do outside of the obvious tourist traps? Best neighborhoods? Best places to physically meet women? Is there a parque lleras equivalent? Best websites? Which neighborhoods to avoid? Best restaurants and bars? Etc. I'm sure the info is here but it is hard to navigate this site for me so I was hoping someone could PM me or share a link and I'll do the rest on my own. Hitting up both Rio & SP but posting here for Rio tips. Thanks in advance fellas.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2944789]Greetings,

Fairly new on the ISG side from USG. I'm heading to Brazil with a buddy in a few weeks and I was wondering what were some must things to see and do outside of the obvious tourist traps? Best neighborhoods? Best places to physically meet women? Is there a parque lleras equivalent? Best websites? Which neighborhoods to avoid? Best restaurants and bars? Etc. I'm sure the info is here but it is hard to navigate this site for me so I was hoping someone could PM me or share a link and I'll do the rest on my own. Hitting up both Rio & SP but posting here for Rio tips. Thanks in advance fellas.[/QUOTE]Can't believe someone posted this. Twice even! Actually, I can believe it. Talk about lazy! I guess this is your idea of research (rolling eyes).

10 minute Saturday fuck while.

I fucked Anne Amari to the audio from this video.

[URL]https://cdn.kink.com/whippedass/members/43643/video/h264/full/43643_Cherry_Noemie.mp4?nva=1726337531&token=0a6c99fed5fcf7272e369056fd5339b2[/URL]

While watching harder local Brazilian porn so her little negra eyes would pop out of her skull. We fucked for 10 minutes. There is a hotter girl in centrol, I shall call her careena Collins, my old boss at [URL]evilangel.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2944477]DV sounds ridiculous with its opening hours. By 1 am I'm too tired to fuck or in bed.

What about MABs? They're open all day. When do the girls start congregating around?[/QUOTE]Yea I'm pretty young myself (less than half the age of most people on here) and I don't like being up that late either. Its kinda loud and smokey and a bit dark but I've found the best girls here in all my visits to rio! They open at 11 so you can see if you find someone you like but it doesn't get packed until 12:30 so it's a real coin toss.

MABs lately from what I saw has been in a decline.

I will hop in and get a drink or a burger and see what's up but generally I stay away and the girls are not quite my type anyways. I would say around 10 pm or so the girls start hanging out there.

Only a handful at any given time and I think most girls would rather go to one of the boates nearby like DV, Casablanca or Marrakech.

Girls rotate from all those clubs so honestly best to go to either Casablanca or DV.

Casablanca gets going earlier I believe but it's 100 R to get in with two drinks.

You also have to pay to take a girl out of here (I think it's like 300 R) because the room they have in there is like some kind of dungeon looking thing that sucks ass and there is no shower so it's a fuck no from me.

DV you pay 50 R to take a girl out or you can just tell her to leave and you'll follow and get the uber ready to walk out and ride out right away.

The DV guys don't care.

My little "negra" (she is actually a French exchange student, Ariana Colbert), is sitting here on the sofa feeding me cheese and sweet desert creme from the feira this morning, and we are watching Fim by Torres, Fernanda, a writer I recommend to us all. I train kickboxing with Ariana, and she spent last night kicking the balls of a famous traficante, Nick, who lives near the Jockey Club with his mother, the fucking loser. I have just fucked Ariana for a brief 10 minutes. I fuck the negras at Darkroom for like 45 minutes. Now, I am going to the fucking bradesco on av das americas because I want to get her out of my apartment. I saw callsign rodeo, his ISG callsign, at the fucking perola negra last night, and he gave me the fistbump and peace sign even though he had attempted to have the policia federal arrest. Me for some immigration crime, as if our common service in the SWISS NAVY federal military component of CENTCOM had not overridden our petty personal grievances. His real name is Mohammed, and his realtor did not want to rent to him because she racistly profiled him as a terrorist. Since I too have an islamic name, though my family name is from Lake Como, Italy due to my Godfather, like a good Italian, I just shot Rodeo a return fistbump, knowing full well, I could have drawn the glock 26 from my chest pack by Feiwood. By the way, I would really, really love a 5. 11 tactical skyweight chest pack and 36 liter pack. If you bring those items to me, I will give you a vagabundo tour of rio de janeiro, and write you into my next plotline, unless you are working for the Russians or Chinese or Iranians, haha.

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[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944960]Best neighborhood is Centro or one of the favelas like Rochina. You can just walk out some random days and times and the girls are just walking around for their new guys. We only like going to the termas because we don't like bringing them back to our places so much.

Best places to physically meet is back the girls place in their favela neighborhoods. She will probably have a friend that will want to join you for like 100 brl.

Best websites to visit is tinder or badoo. Lots of girls! Maybe some bots but this is where the real gems hide.

Neighborhoods to avoid are outright copacabana and ipanema! Don't even bother! You will get MUGGED almost right away. Best bet if you want beaches is to take a 3 HR uber trip to buzios or cabo frio.

Best restaurant is McDonalds since it is really cheap and made with real organic ingredients unlike the USA. Bars are plenty here but go to the ones in Lapa when it's really busy so you can drink and pick up some girls at the same time.

Alot of these guys always hate on the new guys but I understand and like to be helpful!

Hope this helps![/QUOTE]Bearsi is fucking with you. Don't believe a word he says, especially about going to Rocinha or other favelas. You will be mugged, at best, or killed, at worst.

Jimmy Boy is correct. Jimmy Boy is a truth teller, but has no sense of humor.

Bearsi, while being a total asshole, is actually very funny.

Irony, you will find, if you spend long enough in Brazil, does not translate into Portoguese well at all. The Brazilians take the words you say literally.

On the other hand, comedy can work, such as my new favorite lines for my comedy routine:

Sou Carioca do fake, carioca falso. Meu nome e felipe ret bengala baiano. Sou baiano. Sou ator porno, sou go go boy. Mulhers me paga 500 reais para sexo porque por vc vou fazer desconto, vc so meu paga 300 reais.

I was sitting at perola negra tonight at 02 h (no porn star or tequila show tonight) and ana zawaadi foxx who I creampied when she was a vila mimosa hoar for like 300 reais pernoites, unlimited pops up her beautiful negra buceta, and 3 other hoars were having the most hilarious argument while their chefe lingered around and I sat there, drinking water from two Liter bottles I had taken in because I am cheap. It was like watching primates throw shit at each other, and I realized in that moment how utterly terrible the routine of being a monger at putarias actually is. Second hand smoke giving me lung cancer, when the higher high of training muay thai is a higher high than ganja, and right up there with sex. These hoars carrying on like the proles in Hemingways paris, utterly the shit of society. Even if I do fuck hoars, I would rather do them at my place in pernoites, or in a prive, where the cost per fuck is 180 per hour + 50 for bare buceta and a hour can actually mean 60 minutes of penis in vagina fucking. Such a waste at most boates since they have all the tricks to take yoru money and give you a bad fuck or no fuck like soccer players practice steals and ways to block kicks.

Selah.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2945003]Bearsi is fucking with you. Don't believe a word he says, especially about going to Rocinha or other favelas. You will be mugged, at best, or killed, at worst.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944954]

Casablanca gets going earlier I believe but it's 100 R to get in with two drinks.

You also have to pay to take a girl out of here (I think it's like 300 R) because the room they have in there is like some kind of dungeon looking thing that sucks ass and there is no shower so it's a fuck no from me.

DV you pay 50 R to take a girl out or you can just tell her to leave and you'll follow and get the uber ready to walk out and ride out right away.

The DV guys don't care.[/QUOTE]Obrigado. I'm with you about using the rooms at these places. Sex in a room that's dirty, small or dingy is about as unappealing to me as it gets. That's why starting to think the centro prive scene maybe not be worth them time. At 400 R just to get the girl out of CB before paying her agree DV might be better play. I'll have to take nap and go early bird at 11 pm. Kkkk.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944960]Best neighborhood is Centro or one of the favelas like Rochina. You can just walk out some random days and times and the girls are just walking around for their new guys. We only like going to the termas because we don't like bringing them back to our places so much.

Best places to physically meet is back the girls place in their favela neighborhoods. She will probably have a friend that will want to join you for like 100 brl.

Hope this helps![/QUOTE]As Jimmyboy says Bearsi is fucking with you. But his point is to do homework reading the threads first before asking advice. I'll be posting a first timer report in about 3 weeks after my upcoming trip.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2944789]I'm sure the info is here[/QUOTE]You can start from Reports of Distinction. SocratesNY has excellent trip reports that have the SP info you are looking for. There is nothing close to Lleras in these two cities

[QUOTE=Nounce;2945175]You can start from Reports of Distinction. SocratesNY has excellent trip reports that have the SP info you are looking for. There is nothing close to Lleras in these two cities[/QUOTE]Search on the fourm Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2944477]DV sounds ridiculous with its opening hours. By 1 am I'm too tired to fuck or in bed.

What about MABs? They're open all day. When do the girls start congregating around?[/QUOTE]Dolce Vita is closed on Sundays and I wouldn't go everyday anyway, probably best nights are Thursday through Saturday. So when I plan to go I eat an early dinner after the beach and go to sleep about 6 pm to 12 midnight, then make it to DV by 1 am. Most of the girls do the same thing and they're much younger. On the weekends you can find some nice girls in there, the place is not for everybody, it's expensive, they will try to cheat you but it's one of the few games in town of that type. I have also gone at 11 pm and there could be 3 to 5 girls in there and if one is to your liking you can have an earlier night.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2945039]Jimmy Boy is correct. Jimmy Boy is a truth teller, but has no sense of humor.

Bearsi, while being a total asshole, is actually very funny.

Snip.[/QUOTE]Where is the humor inn telling a clueless foreigner to go to a favela to look for hookers, knowing the likely result if they actually did take his advice. Am astonished that the moderators haven't deleted the post and warned Bearsi about such posts.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2945259]Where is the humor inn telling a clueless foreigner to go to a favela to look for hookers, knowing the likely result if they actually did take his advice. Am astonished that the moderators haven't deleted the post and warned Bearsi about such posts.[/QUOTE]Come on JB, Bearsi was just being sarcastic with his humorous response to the OP, who should have RTFF first before asking really generic questions like what's the "Best neighborhoods? Best places to physically meet women?" I mean, Come On, man! LOL. RTFF! Go pack 5 pages. Is that too hard? Or at least try reading Conde Naste before planning a trip to a foreign country.

BTW, I am sure the OP was able to figure out the joke at his expense and what Bearsi was really saying. Of course, I am assuming the newcomer is just lazy and not brain dead, but I guess I could be wrong. KKK.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2945129]Obrigado. I'm with you about using the rooms at these places. Sex in a room that's dirty, small or dingy is about as unappealing to me as it gets. That's why starting to think the centro prive scene maybe not be worth them time. At 400 R just to get the girl out of CB before paying her agree DV might be better play. I'll have to take nap and go early bird at 11 pm. Kkkk.[/QUOTE]I personally don't like the prives.

Most are in Centro (or at least the most well known) and you got to go thru so much check points BS to go up the elevator and the quality of girls FOR ME is not great. It's cheap sure but the rooms weren't ever great and I can't really let a precious nut go to waste. I went hopping around Centro hitting all the prives and couldn't find anything I liked and so never went to them in all my 6 trips so far.

Best bet is to go to the boates like Casablanca or Marrakech's and instead of taking the girl out you can just get her number and have her come to your place the next day before she goes to the boates or during the day. DV girls as well.

I like hitting up some online girls as well as I've found a good amount of repeats. If you are feeling brave you can try seeking or meu patricinio and find a semi pro girl there. I've seen a good amount of girls there know a good enough of English from foreigners that you can really put the translator down and relax a bit.

There are also some massage therapists places that could be good but idk they kinda differ from one and another so do some research about that if you want.

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As I said jimmy boy has no sense of humor.

His real name is Enzo Ferrari and while 89 he has a 31 centimeter penis and plays weird Italian opera music for his hours before he fucks them in the ass.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2945259]Where is the humor inn telling a clueless foreigner to go to a favela to look for hookers, knowing the likely result if they actually did take his advice. Am astonished that the moderators haven't deleted the post and warned Bearsi about such posts.[/QUOTE]

I am not a Prive fan either. Plus 1 for Sao Paulo which has some worthwhile clinicas that I like which are located in reasonable residential neighborhoods. Afternoon clinica hopping in SP is a great sport. In RJ I went to the upscale RJ Massagem Barra one time. It was pretty good ie the girls were attractive, and the rooms were upscale and very nice, but boom boom is not on the menu. My girl and I hit it off, and she gave me her whatsapp # so we got together and consummated our relationship at my hotel on a Sunday afternoon.

RJ boates are OK at best, but they are a far cry from SP boates. Chalk up another big win for SP.

I do like RJ termas and terma girls, however, but the rooms, I mean the beds, are too small unless one pays for an upgraded room. For me the termas are the place to go when I am in RJ.

RJ Escorts are worth checking too. I have met some very attractive, SP quality Scandallo girls on Barra Vips and kept up relations with a couple of them through multiple trips. That said, I am not really a fan of the escort venue being that I prefer to hunt in brick & mortar establishments ie bars and bordellos. It's more fun to go out, IMHO, rather than spending time searching for girls on the internet and then waiting for one to show up at my hotel.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2945301]I personally don't like the prives.

Most are in Centro (or at least the most well known) and you got to go thru so much check points BS to go up the elevator and the quality of girls FOR ME is not great. It's cheap sure but the rooms weren't ever great and I can't really let a precious nut go to waste. I went hopping around Centro hitting all the prives and couldn't find anything I liked and so never went to them in all my 6 trips so far.

Best bet is to go to the boates like Casablanca or Marrakech's and instead of taking the girl out you can just get her number and have her come to your place the next day before she goes to the boates or during the day. DV girls as well.

I like hitting up some online girls as well as I've found a good amount of repeats. If you are feeling brave you can try seeking or meu patricinio and find a semi pro girl there. I've seen a good amount of girls there know a good enough of English from foreigners that you can really put the translator down and relax a bit.

There are also some massage therapists places that could be good but idk they kinda differ from one and another so do some research about that if you want.[/QUOTE]

Team,

I'm taking the girlfriend to Rio and her and I want to enjoy some ladies. My lady is not bi (maybe a bit bi curious) but she wants me to enjoy some ladies with her. Nevertheless what's the best way to make this happen? We've done some things (albeit in the USA) like taking a stripper out back and I was getting a two girl BJ.

I am assuming the only way is to go to a massage parlor and see if they see couples? Also can anyone recommend a good report of distinction for me to read the a first time Rio monger? I've read through them but I am still a bit confused on how it all works.

Any advise is appreciated.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2945129]......Sex in a room that's dirty, small or dingy is about as unappealing to me as it gets......[/QUOTE]Dirty is what puts me off. Small and dingy and the girl is hot and enthusiastic and I'm off to the races.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2945394]
I'm taking the girlfriend to Rio and her and I want to enjoy some ladies. My lady is not bi (maybe a bit bi curious) but she wants me to enjoy some ladies with her. Nevertheless what's the best way to make this happen? We've done some things (albeit in the USA) like taking a stripper out back and I was getting a two girl BJ.
[/QUOTE]You can both go to the club like you did in US. There are a few posts mentioning club just the last 24 hours.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2945394]
Also can anyone recommend a good report of distinction for me to read the a first time Rio monger? I've read through them but I am still a bit confused on how it all works.[/QUOTE]

This recent post is the best and only post you need.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2944960]Best [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2945357]I am not a Prive fan either. Plus 1 for Sao Paulo which has some worthwhile clinicas that I like which are located in reasonable residential neighborhoods. Afternoon clinica hopping in SP is a great sport. In RJ I went to the upscale RJ Massagem Barra one time. It was pretty good ie the girls were attractive, and the rooms were upscale and very nice, but boom boom is not on the menu. My girl and I hit it off, and she gave me her whatsapp # so we got together and consummated our relationship at my hotel on a Sunday afternoon.

RJ boates are OK at best, but they are a far cry from SP boates. Chalk up another big win for SP.

I do like RJ termas and terma girls, however, but the rooms, I mean the beds, are too small unless one pays for an upgraded room. For me the termas are the place to go when I am in RJ.

RJ Escorts are worth checking too. I have met some very attractive, SP quality Scandallo girls on Barra Vips and kept up relations with a couple of them through multiple trips. That said, I am not really a fan of the escort venue being that I prefer to hunt in brick & mortar establishments ie bars and bordellos. It's more fun to go out, IMHO, rather than spending time searching for girls on the internet and then waiting for one to show up at my hotel.[/QUOTE]I agree with pretty much all you said.

The newbie was asking for daytime action so termas wouldn't be in that category.

You can always asks for terma girls numbers before you leave and try to hit them up during the day.

Had some good success with that but it varies.

Some don't want to be fucking during the day when they got a whole bunch of other fucks awaiting them later.

But best termas for me are solarium, Monte Carlo and 4 x4.

Centaurus I guess you can go for a newbie just to see it.

They charge like 600 reais or something and girls tend to be pushy.

I actually had some good sessions there but even the girls I liked that I met there hate that place so it's not a place to relax at all.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2945428]I agree with pretty much all you said. The newbie was asking for daytime action so termas wouldn't be in that category.[/QUOTE]Why's that? Most termas I know are open in the afternoon.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2945394]Team,

I'm taking the girlfriend to Rio and her and I want to enjoy some ladies. My lady is not bi (maybe a bit bi curious) but she wants me to enjoy some ladies with her. Nevertheless what's the best way to make this happen? We've done some things (albeit in the USA) like taking a stripper out back and I was getting a two girl BJ.

I am assuming the only way is to go to a massage parlor and see if they see couples? Also can anyone recommend a good report of distinction for me to read the a first time Rio monger? I've read through them but I am still a bit confused on how it all works.

Any advise is appreciated.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]There are several swing clubs in Rio, many of the girls who frequent these places are Bi, but you might have to offer your girlfriend up to get some. Also check out escorts on websites or find some in the various clubs in Copacabana.

Likewise! Tent sex with a 18 year old negra ana Foxx!

Speaking of which who is up for a vila tour? The link up point shall be McDonalds at metro uruguiana second floor.

Just say when.

Vagabundo is there most days at 13 h.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2945398]Dirty is what puts me off. Small and dingy and the girl is hot and enthusiastic and I'm off to the races.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2945433]Why's that? Most termas I know are open in the afternoon.[/QUOTE]Most termas open at 4 pm and talent show up in Brazilian girl time so it's more like 5 pm.

Daytime I consider 9 am-3 pm.

For termas it's always best in my experience to go around 6 pm when the girls start showing up.

Earlier than that you're burning the beautiful day light and could be doing some cool and fun in the city and not sitting in a empty dark club room with maybe 3 girls you don't want to bang.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2945394]Team,

I'm taking the girlfriend to Rio and her and I want to enjoy some ladies. My lady is not bi (maybe a bit bi curious) but she wants me to enjoy some ladies with her. Nevertheless what's the best way to make this happen? We've done some things (albeit in the USA) like taking a stripper out back and I was getting a two girl BJ.

I am assuming the only way is to go to a massage parlor and see if they see couples? Also can anyone recommend a good report of distinction for me to read the a first time Rio monger? I've read through them but I am still a bit confused on how it all works.

Any advise is appreciated.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]If you could take a detour to SP.

I believe it's better for that.

You can take her to casarao, Scandallo, connections or other boates and find girls.

Online girls are plenty and down for couples too.

Lots of high end swing clubs too.

You can also go to one of the regular clubs and if you're both pretty hot some Brazilian couples like to swing with regular people.

There's just more avenue to do it in SP.

Rio you could also but I generally do believe you need some contacts with girls you know are down and that takes some hustling and work.

You can go to 4 x4 but it's pretty limited amount of girls and so you'll see the same ones after two visits.

DV or Casablanca can work.

Swing clubs.

Online girls.

If you both or one of you knows Portuguese then you can go to one of the clubs in Lapa or one in Vidgal (it's a favela but it's been white washed for tourists and gringos stay up there to rent or drink) went with a hot Carioca and we got hit on by three different couple.

I don't think I've seen a guy take his girl to one of the termas before.

4 x4 sure but it was mainly Brazilian guys partying with their wife or something like that like a regular club.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2945267]Come on JB, Bearsi was just being sarcastic with his humorous response to the OP, who should have RTFF first before asking really generic questions like what's the "Best neighborhoods? Best places to physically meet women?" I mean, Come On, man! LOL. RTFF! Go pack 5 pages. Is that too hard? Or at least try reading Conde Naste before planning a trip to a foreign country.

BTW, I am sure the OP was able to figure out the joke at his expense and what Bearsi was really saying. Of course, I am assuming the newcomer is just lazy and not brain dead, but I guess I could be wrong. KKK.[/QUOTE]Both Bearsi's original post, and his subsequent post defending the original post, were deleted by the moderators. These actions should make it clear that it is not acceptable to make suggestions that could put members in danger, even if you're being sarcastic or trying to be funny.

BTW someone called me a newbie in a thread below. You're right -- and I liked it. I am a Brazilian newbie and looking forward to my October visit. However, I've mongered in 8 countries and 15 years.

I've asked this question before, but want one last check on advices. With that let me practice my Portuguese. Eu gosto sexo sem camisihna; Eu limpo and seguro. Americano executivo. Eu tehno testes nao stds. Eu PREP. Eu tehno vascetomia. Nao bebes. Kkkk.

My question is advice on timing of negotiation. Upfront or once in hotel and sort of let it play out? In Asia last 5 years I've elected to do the later. Girls there are usually willing and willing for the money. Of course I'll pay for the accommodation. But trying to do it upfront was too difficult particularly with language differences.

Advice when in RIO?

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2945656]With that let me practice my Portuguese. Eu gosto sexo sem camisihna; Eu limpo and seguro. Americano executivo. Eu tehno testes nao stds. Eu PREP. Eu tehno vascetomia. Nao bebes.[/QUOTE]Lots of errors. Out of curiosity, why "Americano executivo"? That would just be a way telling the girl that you're a guy that's easily fooled.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2945656]BTW someone called me a newbie in a thread below. You're right -- and I liked it. I am a Brazilian newbie and looking forward to my October visit. However, I've mongered in 8 countries and 15 years.

I've asked this question before, but want one last check on advices. With that let me practice my Portuguese. Eu gosto sexo sem camisihna; Eu limpo and seguro. Americano executivo. Eu tehno testes nao stds. Eu PREP. Eu tehno vascetomia. Nao bebes. Kkkk.

My question is advice on timing of negotiation. Upfront or once in hotel and sort of let it play out? In Asia last 5 years I've elected to do the later. Girls there are usually willing and willing for the money. Of course I'll pay for the accommodation. But trying to do it upfront was too difficult particularly with language differences.

Advice when in RIO?[/QUOTE]Only way to find out is to try it out 😜.

No need to throw in the "americano executivo". Let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2945656]
My question is advice on timing of negotiation. Upfront or once in hotel and sort of let it play out? In Asia last 5 years I've elected to do the later. Girls there are usually willing and willing for the money. Of course I'll pay for the accommodation. But trying to do it upfront was too difficult particularly with language differences.

Advice when in RIO?[/QUOTE]CC, either approach you mention will work when it works. I personally prefer the let it play out and see route because 1. I really do not like to negotiate specifics up front and 2. I do not necessarily want to bareback every girl I shag. So, after taking into consideration how a girl looks health wise and where I found her, I like to inspect the goods up close and personal before deciding. Basically, when I am in bed with a girl and if I decide to go down on her, it follows naturally that I will also want to bareback her and that is when I will bring the subject up.

But you should be aware in advance of your arrival in Brazil that compared to Asian girls, Brazilian girls are very, very condom conservative. They make up for this negative cultural habit with, IMHO, higher sex drives than your average Asian girl, but in my experience roughly 90% of the Brazilian girls I have been with insisted on a condom on our first time together no matter when I made my pitch or how much extra I offered. This compares to an 80% to 90% 1st time successful bareback rate that I have experienced in places like Makati, Phnom, and Jakarta. For example, back a few centuries ago when I posted my 1st PI trip report, I titled it "Barebacking in the PI" because that is all I did for 3 solid weeks. 555. Man, I loved that trip, and I loved those girls!

YMMV. Good hunting and let us know how you made out after you get back home.

A. H.

Senor waltoderri, and any other rio newbies.

Please PM me, Jimmyboy, Nounce, or michaelsamuel to be added to a whatsapp group in which we do local meetups and will send you the latest version of bubbaboy's guide for Rio.

Jimmyboy was descended from the Nero line of Roman emperors, the aforementioned Ferraris, who have no sense of humor and are great accountants. In fact, he caught some mafia scam in a Lugano branch of UBS, which is why he is so uptight.

Vagabundo, on the other hand is descened from the Caligulas Ceaser line of Roman emperors, and favors throwing wild sex parties with anonymous names, and all the other stuff that goes with late stage empire, but I have a sense of irony, not to mention a fine sense of satire and I have learned all my Portugese from porto dos fundos, tropa de elite, cidade de deus (including the excellent new series), and Felipe Ret; as mentioned, my upcoming comedy special on Porta dos fundos is the lines I noted in a previous post. Comedy gold. Trust me. Rehearse them. Use them. Every time you talk to a hoar, then just start playing felipe ret. And fuck.

Today, I fucked for 45 minutes careena collins in a centro prive.

OK, so the standard link up point is now McDonalds, second floor, Uruguiana Metro. Got it. Every day, 12 h or so, confirm a day before or more more, as much as possible. And I will give you the grand tour, so will Jimmyboy when he is in town, though, as a 89 year old with a 31 centimeter Roman penis, he prefers to eat at Zanetti grill nearby.

I digress.

As I do alot.

The other two senors mentioned are also mods of the local zap group, and there are many others from this fine website who have been promoted to be mods. This group is actually a good group of people, male sex tourists being good folks. I am thinking of branching out into doing sex tours for women too, as mentioned, some guys have women friends who like to pay for play, and after all, isn't Madonna a sex tourist, grabbing the asses of mister bumbum and a saint for the Passport Sisters? Man, I said that on the local Rio digital nomads group, and the kunt mod who runs that group went wild, like I stuck a large usb vibe up against her clit, tied her down and orgasmed her on a nude beach in front of dozens of horny men.

I have a fucking female college classmate who is pushing 60 who is interested in going into the female financial fem dom business, and she wants me to download all the femdom section of kink dot com for her, and teach her derivatives trading, the stupid kunt. Kunts. Jesus, god created them slower, didn't he?

Speaking of which, look up hetero jesus on porta dos fundos, hilarious!

[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk?si=nh3Mkz1AYusYDVTM[/URL]

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2944789]Greetings,

Fairly new on the ISG side from USG. I'm heading to Brazil with a buddy in a few weeks and I was wondering what were some must things to see and do outside of the obvious tourist traps? Best neighborhoods? Best places to physically meet women? Is there a parque lleras equivalent? Best websites? Which neighborhoods to avoid? Best restaurants and bars? Etc. I'm sure the info is here but it is hard to navigate this site for me so I was hoping someone could PM me or share a link and I'll do the rest on my own. Hitting up both Rio & SP but posting here for Rio tips. Thanks in advance fellas.[/QUOTE]

Quero fuder sem camisinha. Sou limpo (showing test on phone, preferably in portoguese). Sou ator porno. Meu nome e felipe ret bengala. (start to play felipe ret).

[URL]https://youtu.be/yAk7BkGl2Jw?si=o1zjAj34AEDag6IB[/URL]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2945774]Only way to find out is to try it out 😜.

No need to throw in the "americano executivo". Let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2944894]Can't believe someone posted this. Twice even! Actually, I can believe it. Talk about lazy! I guess this is your idea of research (rolling eyes).[/QUOTE]Yeah Bro sorry I do not have the free time or energy to peruse all two thousand pages + of this thread or know how to navigate the search as a newbie. You could have just kept scrolling if you had nothing to add LOL.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2945003]Bearsi is fucking with you. Don't believe a word he says, especially about going to Rocinha or other favelas. You will be mugged, at best, or killed, at worst.[/QUOTE]No worries, I didn't even see it before it got deleted.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2945175]You can start from Reports of Distinction. SocratesNY has excellent trip reports that have the SP info you are looking for. There is nothing close to Lleras in these two cities[/QUOTE]Thank you for an actually helpful quick tip. I did not see the link back in the general Brazil forum. All organized in one place helps a lot. I'll read up.

No worries fellas, I am from another Latin American nation and I know to stay away from shitty and shady neighborhoods but that could indeed be reckless info to give to someone even more ignorant than I LOL.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2945656]I've asked this question before[/QUOTE]This type of information is in Bubba's guide. You can get the updated guide from VegaBundo1. You can also consider converting the style of your questions from "I" to "You". It also depends on context or venue. I would ask the services that I must have in advance, the rest can happen later. If I am in Scandallo, I have to have a make out session before going to the room, then the only question left is if the girl would do BBBJ or not. I don't ask BBFS before taking her because I don't need it and is unlikely to get it on site.

It sounds like we need to spend a good amount of time in SP for what I am seeking. I am studying Portuguese at the moment to try and make things easier. I recall many years ago mongering in China and I needed to actually DRAW things on a napkin to get my words understood LOL. I don't want a repeat of that.

We are also trying to find a civilian unicorn that maybe could spend a few days with us. We will pay handsomely for that as if we find the right women we will spend much time with her while we are there. We have secured a nice AirBNB and having my GF and another women walking around topless for a few days would be nice.

Thanks for all the responses and PMs.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2945501]If you could take a detour to SP.

I believe it's better for that.

You can take her to casarao, Scandallo, connections or other boates and find girls.

Online girls are plenty and down for couples too.

Lots of high end swing clubs too.

You can also go to one of the regular clubs and if you're both pretty hot some Brazilian couples like to swing with regular people.

There's just more avenue to do it in SP.

Rio you could also but I generally do believe you need some contacts with girls you know are down and that takes some hustling and work.

You can go to 4 x4 but it's pretty limited amount of girls and so you'll see the same ones after two visits.

DV or Casablanca can work.

Swing clubs.

Online girls.

If you both or one of you knows Portuguese then you can go to one of the clubs in Lapa or one in Vidgal (it's a favela but it's been white washed for tourists and gringos stay up there to rent or drink) went with a hot Carioca and we got hit on by three different couple.

I don't think I've seen a guy take his girl to one of the termas before.

4 x4 sure but it was mainly Brazilian guys partying with their wife or something like that like a regular club.[/QUOTE]

With apps like Google Maps, Google Translate, Uber etc, travelling without speaking the local language is far easier than it used to be. Obviously knowing the language is better and will enhance the experience but it's not essential.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2945912]This type of information is in Bubba's guide. You can get the updated guide from VegaBundo1. You can also consider converting the style of your questions from "I" to "You". It also depends on context or venue. I would ask the services that I must have in advance, the rest can happen later. If I am in Scandallo, I have to have a make out session before going to the room, then the only question left is if the girl would do BBBJ or not. I don't ask BBFS before taking her because I don't need it and is unlikely to get it on site.[/QUOTE]I'll have to play around with approach whilst there. I think making sure at least BBBJ is discussed upfront is good advice. Then maybe broach add ONS later. If she only does CBJ then there is no chance. My experience it will all come down to money and willingness; and being respectful + excellent grooming doesn't hurt. Hopefully they think my rough American Portuguese is cute. If prices in this forum and on the websites are anywhere near accurate, a "miss" with my pitch is no big deal. It's so cheap in Brazil compared to other parts world.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2945774]Only way to find out is to try it out 😜.

No need to throw in the "americano executivo". Let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]In my opinion I think his point to mention he is an executive is to say I'm an upstanding person and upstanding people don't have STD'S. Not saying that's true it probably doesn't matter. I like bareback as much as Anybody else but try to keep it to a minimum. Usually the only time I would ask for it is if I can't bust a nut and thinking that removing the condom will help, sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't. Some girls will just jump on you without a condom and others will be willing to negotiate for more money, if you're an executive she may expect you can pay more. Some girls no matter how much you offer her will never do without a condom maybe they have your good health in mind.

Just stopped by to see what's happening our days in Rio, and to salute the fellow mongerers here (I see some of the old ones still around). I used to monger in Rio 20 years ago, when "Helpi" (Help Disco) was there, then at "Balconi", after I got older I moved my area of interest to SE Asia, and told my friends that I did it out of fear that if I can't satisfy the wild cariocas, I will get beaten up by them (joke).

Are the perfect bodied cariocas still sad because they wish they had a bigger butt? In Asia the girls wish for bigger noses.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2946261]In my opinion I think his point to mention he is an executive is to say I'm an upstanding person and upstanding people don't have STD'S. Not saying that's true it probably doesn't matter. I like bareback as much as Anybody else but try to keep it to a minimum. Usually the only time I would ask for it is if I can't bust a nut and thinking that removing the condom will help, sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't. Some girls will just jump on you without a condom and others will be willing to negotiate for more money, if you're an executive she may expect you can pay more. Some girls no matter how much you offer her will never do without a condom maybe they have your good health in mind.[/QUOTE]You are correct. Gives some credibility. Plus I say I'm in Rio on ferias and negocios for quarto semanas so they think I'll be repeat. I negotiate for a living so no problem there. Regardless, I'm tourist first and monger 2nd so worst case I get some nice BBBJs from really hot Brazilian women and I see a unique city. Having been in SE Asia last 5 years on trips it will be refreshing to have women who have curves. Now I have to research good places to eat around the JW.

Vagabundo and Amber Lynn sitting in a tree.

So today Vagabundo fucked Amber Lynn, a regular fave in a centro prive for 35 minutes.

A wingman came in and met up. Vagabundo failed to let him know that I was sessioning, and he was actually in the prive, and I wanted to have him meet Amber Lynn, her callsign. We mongered over to Club 116, the secret terma. As Rabbi Vagabuno, Senior Pagan Chaplain to the Brazilian Grupo Maritimo, is actually a Spinozite Jew who celebrates his bar mitzvah annually every November, he was glad to meet his new wingman, also a pagan from Switzerland, who bought Vagabundo a pair of fake ray bans on the street, but at 30 reais, and with fake Amber Lynn kunt, fuggit, life was good. Wingman liked 116, and we planned to go to Barra for Perola Negra and Paris Cafe on Thursday. Join us. As Senor Nounce mentioned, you should get the Bubba Boy guide, and you can PM Senor Nounce too to be added to our group of all male or mostly male or at least hyper masculine digital nomads fuckers of Brazilian kunts, fuggit if the feminazis in the rich world can't take a joke while we leave them in the rich world to take care of our offspring.

Cost was 280 r for bare hot af brazilian kunt.

Shalom, Amen, and all that other bullshit. Spinoza would say when Amber Lynn is sitting on your face, or you are training muay thai with a hot af brazilian women in her early 20's, you see god, or God or Yahweh, or you get some wood, and if you don't you need to come get laid in Rio de Janeiro. Semper Gumby, Ad usum nostroroum tantum, blablabla.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2947503]Plus I say I'm in Rio on ferias and negocios for quarto semanas so they think I'll be repeat.[/QUOTE]What is a room week? Do you mean you are going to stay in the room with them for weeks?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2947660]Vagabundo and Amber Lynn sitting in a tree. So today Vagabundo fucked Amber Lynn, a regular fave in a centro prive for 35 minutes.[/QUOTE]Seems they need to update her whereabouts then: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu8-7VhHWww&ab_channel=BehindtheScenesX[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2947752]What is a room week? Do you mean you are going to stay in the room with them for weeks?[/QUOTE]Typo. He meant quatro semanas (4 weeks).

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2947829]Typo. He meant quatro semanas (4 weeks).[/QUOTE]Thanks, Jimmyboy. Shit at 56 years old I'm lucky to be able to go every other day.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2947462]......after I got older I moved my area of interest to SE Asia, and told my friends that I did it out of fear that if I can't satisfy the wild cariocas, I will get beaten up by them (joke)........[/QUOTE]That's close to not being a joke. They get rather testy if you don't satisfy them.

Thursday, Week in Baseball.

So Thursday, Vagabundo fucked 40 minutes in a prive and then trained muay thai 45 minutes, and trained first aid (primeiro socorro) with the muay thai team. Then he headed out to Perola Negra with the wingman from earlier in the week in which he banged Amber Lynn (a codename for a prive girl in centro who does it raw, a form of magical realism, bossa nova, or to explain to the congregation in this literature class, historically in south America, sensitive information has often been shrouded in some form or art, and the sensitive info is which girls exactly give it up raw, as that could cause problems for the girls and for the casa. So too, bossa nova was a way to get out coded messages, and my view is that magical realism was too. Someone shit me a Ph. The on that topic.

OK, so we linked up on Olegario Maciel, at the hookah place. Wingman was trying to pick up as much ass as possible. Olegario Maciel in Barra is the place to be. OK, Vagabundo is sick af of all newbies asking where should I stay. I have that covered in my update to Bubba boys guide, and the answer is at metro jardim oceanico. So, whatever.

So we went to Pineapple to eat. Eye candy was prime, a salmon and risotto cost 120 with some mate (tea). This is the place to go for a date with pros, non pros, etc. Great vibe, great atmosphere.

We walked over to Perola Negra. All the regular crew is there, including aninha anna zawaadi foxx, whose creampied kunt I have passed pictures under the israeli flag around endlessly on my zap group. I even showed that dripping kunt pic to the girl that wingman bought a drink for, and she called over ana zawaadi foxx and described the picture to her, and then ana shot vagabundo a dirty look. I had been pernoiting her with unlimited creampied up her kunt and up her ass for like 24 hours, taking her to the beach when she was a 18 year old at vila mimosa, and now that she is the hottest negra at perola negra, she is commanding 340 per 40 minutes, and she won't let vagabundo creampie her kunt any more. But Vagabundo gets numbers, and makes a market and creampied new kunts weekly. Cover was 50 r. Not justified, but that is brazilian biz math, just keep increasing the rates on fewer customers and so on.

Vagabundo had trained muay thai with legit leads for not just a possible real GF but friend earlier so he was centered like the great lama on his deathbed with full enlightenment, and the insight is this, mongering is kinda lame if you do it for like years on end, specifically 1700 days continuously. Really hoars are the bottom of the barrel, and we are swimming around like catfish, sucking shit out of the bottom of a river polluted with sperm, lube, and every other evil substance that hoars stuff up their kunts.

We ubered over to paris cafe, and wingman picked a kunt, and vagabundo went to the 24 hour zona sul and got some sourdough and salmon, and went home and air fried up the salmon patties and watched some joe rogan.

Last week, I creampied careena collins three times, each for 45-51 minutes in the hour. I also creampied the ass after a good session of ass to mouth with one of my all time favorite meier girls, who also will remain anon in a centro hotel. I get such as steady diet of raw bareback pussy and ass that I just am blase, I don't give a fuck when I get into the putaria, which I only go to in order to hang out with wingmen who are worthy of hanging out. My lines are (and you are free to copy them, but you must do so with conviction).

Eu sou felipe ret bengala, sou ator porno, go go boy, normalmente mulhers me paga 500 reais para sexo, por que por voce vou fazer desconto, vc pode me paga 300 reais por sexo.

Then you kinda dance samba, and you got to say it with confidence.

Boom, now you too are a carioca do fake, a carioca falso.

Oi vey.

The best part of the year has passed. Dreman came in and that marked the high light. Dreman too banged Amber Lynn, a callsign, for those of you who do not follow the inspired writings of Rabbi Vagabundo who is handed these words directly from yahweh, the God, the one and only God who gave us pussy. There shall be no false gods. Pussy is our god, the god of man. Or perhaps it is ass. It is Brazilian women. Brazilian women are proof that god wants men to be happy, beer too, but that is a different topic.

OK, so now the days get longer until carnival. Oh, fuck carnival. Fuck samba. Fuck all that noise. Fuck the carioca upsell. Fuck the stupid touristic bullshit. Take your samba shit and go back to the favela, all Vagabundo wants is kunt, bare naked 20 ish year old negra high energy, bounce up and down on your dick for 51 minutes, don't ask me for a tip, just give me your bouncing ass on my dick kunt. A distant second is loira branca bare naked amber lynn quality white girl kunt, but that is a far distant second. A first may be the bare naked ass of a morena meier, a morena falsa magra, with the negra a close second, and often in my fantasies and perhaps in reality a actual dupla with a morena meier and a zona norte negra, see how you need to make the connoisseurs appreciation of carioca sex holes ryme a little to show your luv of these hoars holes? Morena meier hoar hole, zona norte negra hoar hole? I am not looking for a party. I am not looking for all you asshole tourist mongers coming in and asking where to stay and complaining about how the hotel fucked you. Yes, a carioca running the airbnb and the hotel fucked you? Fucking gringos is the national business because Brazilians generally have nothing. They don't have the reserve currency. Their naval officers may be well paid but they have been building the same nuclear submarine for like 24 years. They don't have shit. Their lawyers troll x videos and take down your videos if you have the word Copacabana. By the way, don't stay in copa. If you do, you have been warned. Pestana hotel is now charging for visitors? !

Whiskey tango foxtrot. Over. As we said in Switzerland while in desert maneuvers with M1 A1 tanks and infantry with SPIKE NLOS missiles strapped to our backs marching into hez territory to drop a half dozen 40 mm grenades into a terrorist building.

So then you get a Airbnb where you also can't have guests.

I mean, did Vagabundo warn you?

Look, Vagabundo is not a full service travel agency. All he cares about is that you can get your fat, white, hairy, unattractive rich world ass to the second floor of mcdonalds at uruguiana metro at the right time to go on a quick and dirty pussy patrol, to be a reasonably cool dude with some insights about the world preferably from economist dot com, to be a good patrol buddy, watch your sector and look like you know how to fight so we can be safer, IE, a net plus on the street.

So gitter done.

Today, while I went to Muay Thai, I had the two top girls, I shall call them Andrea Colbert and Nikki Anderson, fight each other, the winner getting the prize, which is my huge German bratwurst. In the 40 minutes it took to fuk my girl at the prive, which cost 230 reais, I wrote a scene with the two muay Thai girls of my dreams, who fought to entertain me. The winner got the best kind of prize, which I shall not mention because this is a famiy channel, and fuggit if the weak minded among us cannot take a joke. Generally, all of this is very therapeutic. While I was there Amber Lynn was banging another client because I passed on her. All the gang was there and it was fun, and then I mongered on home on a rainy night here in Rio de Janeiro.

Recent outings have made me question what I thought was a real easy find in the Brazil pay for play arena: the rotund bunda grande. I see it more outside of this arena way more walking around doing errands and relaxing at the beach. Went out Friday night and it was a struggle.

4 x4.

Showed up around 9:30 pm. Place is less than half full. Maybe around 15 girls and less guys. Talent severely down here. I came last Friday around the same time and it was the same crop of girls there. A girl told me last week it was slow because of Rock in Rio but it was over this weekend so could not use that excuse. There were like two bunda grandes there but one of them I session with before a year ago and didn't want to do it again and the other looked old. Not saying the girls weren't doable because in a context where I'm not being direct and transactional, they are fuckable. But in this setting, it didn't really meet my expectations. So I left after sitting and waiting to see if anything else showed up.

Centaurus.

Got there around 11. Soon as I get into the locker room, a big bunda tall chick damn near assault me. Offering to hang up my clothes and put on my robe. All while sticking her ass in my face. While I appreciate that at least I stumbled on big bunda, I'm not a fan of trying to lock me in to a sale soon as I walking in without seeing the rest of the girls. So I politely tell her I don't want company right now and want to look at the other girls. So she kindly obliged but in retrospect I should have just went with her because grand bunda was lacking here. There were about 30 girls, doable but nothing outstanding or should I say what I was looking for. The aggressive girl probably fit what I was looking for the best but she got taken shortly after I sat down. Talk to about ten girls who came over to ask if I wanted company. I think their boss, a short lady who sat in the tanner too long and too much facial surgery, came up pestering the girls to pester the men there. So shortly after I left.

Dolce Vita.

Got here around 1 am. Passed by Mabs and it was dead. Dolce Vita felt like a US hip hop club. Didn't feel very Brazilian. And the talent was subpar at best. Stayed maybe 15 minutes. Probably won't be coming back again.

Pérola Negra.

About 20-30 girls. Live band taking up a chunk of the club space but people were enjoying themselves. Probably the most numerous big bundas here may be like 4. One I had already session with and she is older now so didn't want to go with her again. Settle on a 23 year old with a decent size butt spoke English and session was ok. Nothing special. I noticed that a lot of girls were asking for 700-800 for an hour. I told the girl I went with that seemed like gringo prices but when we were checking out, a Brazilian guy was paying 750 for probably one of the best looking girls there. He has two girls with him and the lady at the desk showed him a calculator for both as 750 a piece. He decided to only go with one. I talked mine down to 400. She said girls charge whatever they want.

It was an ok night but maybe my expectations and past experiences are clouding my rating. Or I think I might have to change my strategy and just pull regular girls I see out when I'm running errands and not rely on the pay for play arena to meet my expectations. Just have to adapt to meet my expectations.

[QUOTE=Global00;2948521]

Prola Negra.

About 20-30 girls. Live band taking up a chunk of the club space but people were enjoying themselves. Probably the most numerous big bundas here may be like 4. One I had already session with and she is older now so didn't want to go with her again. Settle on a 23 year old with a decent size butt spoke English and session was ok. Nothing special. I noticed that a lot of girls were asking for 700-800 for an hour. I told the girl I went with that seemed like gringo prices but when we were checking out, a Brazilian guy was paying 750 for probably one of the best looking girls there. He has two girls with him and the lady at the desk showed him a calculator for both as 750 a piece. He decided to only go with one. I talked mine down to 400. She said girls charge whatever they want.

It was an ok night but maybe my expectations and past experiences are clouding my rating. Or I think I might have to change my strategy and just pull regular girls I see out when I'm running errands and not rely on the pay for play arena to meet my expectations. Just have to adapt to meet my expectations.[/QUOTE]Has Perola Negra always been freelance pricing? I could have sworn the last time I went (About 2 years ago) that the price was set by management. At 750 R for an hour, I would have walked out too!! That 750 doesn't include your entry fee or the room, correct?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2948573]Has Perola Negra always been freelance pricing? I could have sworn the last time I went (About 2 years ago) that the price was set by management. At 750 R for an hour, I would have walked out too!! That 750 doesn't include your entry fee or the room, correct?[/QUOTE]I went last year and it was fixed price based on room type.

I have never seen that at pn.

I've only seen some girls there saying they will only do an hour.

[QUOTE=Global00;2948521]Recent outings have made me question what I thought was a real easy find in the Brazil pay for play arena: the rotund bunda grande. I see it more outside of this arena way more walking around doing errands and relaxing at the beach. Went out Friday night and it was a struggle.
[/QUOTE]That is a sad development if true. I went in 2015 and 2018 and it was culo gigante capital of the world. Especially at 4 x4 and Monte Carlo.

I was in Rio for a couple of days recently.

I had hoped to meet a masseuse that was recommended in this thread a few weeks ago, Maya.

As per the pictures, which apparently are real, she was exactly my type.

However, her phone was switched off, and when she eventually answered, it was already too late.

Instead I went to Ester at Gasha Terapias, short 20 yo fake blonde with a big tight bunda and big firm natural tits.

To my positive surprise she looked 90+% like her photos.

Very nice body if you like TnA. She started off with a good massage, but then tried to finish me off after 30 minutes or so even though I had paid for an hour.

Classic. I stopped her and said that it was my turn to massage her, and she complied.

I did several hours of Thai massage training in BKK when I was younger, a great investment of my time, tremendous to hear up regular chicks I picked up anywhere.

I like to do it to garotas too when I feel like going pro and they are usually very surprised that someone has actual skills.

Usually gets them more excited as well.

But of course I just enjoy exploring their bodies with my hands.

Anyways, after I while of massaging her everywhere, I let her take back control and she finished me off with Spanish with her massive boobs while I fingered her.

I don't do vaginal sex with pros, not BBBJ, for a number of reasons so I do not know if that works have been in the cards for an extra payment.

But the folks next door were clearly banging so probably.

Overall a good experience but looking back, booking 30 minutes Nuru would have been enough to do the trick.

They do not really offer that for the mutual massage but she anyways did not follow the advertised program.

I guess they do pretty much the same whatever you book. Unless you go basic where they stay dressed.

Overall good and sth I would repeat for 30 min.

My positive learning was that she looked like her pics, so a winning strategy for Rio might be to identify the massage sites that have fairly accurate pics and then go for your type. Cross referencing vs GP Guia and taking advice from here can go a long way.

Overall, I guess the trend that was commented on in the previous posts seems to be true.

Less and less top tier chicks in the termas and bars.

I remember being in Rio about 10 years ago and walking by Centaurus.

Back in the day I was picking up hot chicks in the clubs with ease so I wouldn't have wasted a thought on going pro.

The day, one of the hottest girls I have seen in my life, emerged and was trying to chat me up. And then a second one that was also breathtaking.

On hindsight, I regret not going for it.

I went to check out the place a few years ago and there was no chick even remotely close to that quality and I left.

Also, prior to Covid, I ended up bouncing into this incredibly beautiful girl at MABs and ended up taking her back to my place (which I usually don't do).

Still by far the best pro I ever had fun with and also easily in the top 20 of the most beautiful women I ever spoke to.

Now you go and the place is dead.

It's probably multifactorial. The cab driver from Scandy (see my SP report) was prob right. Onlyfans, webcams and Instagram are great sources of income for top end chicks (and not only those). Too many folks ready to pay for digital content vs the real thing.

And I totally get it. It's more money and less time from the comfort of their homes.

No need to travel anywhere to get screwed by a bunch of guys.

Plus tons of super hot pro chicks going to Dubai and other places to make top dollar.

Presumably, this trend will continue and it will get harder and harder and harder to find stunners in the pro scene in Brazil.

Or the more important are these forms to identify places where these rare creatures still exist.

Great reviews Global. I enjoyed reading your report. Everybody has differing tastes in girls. My tastes are almost the complete opposite yours in that I seek only slender girls with small asses and natural ta ta's. And believe me this preference of mine eliminates a hell of a lot of girls from consideration even when they have pretty faces. Interestingly, another BM recently noted that the girls were a lot thinner with smaller asses, and relatively tattoo free back in the Help days. Too bad I missed that action.

On Prola Negra (damn the error checker), I have been there around 6 times, although never when there was live music. I always had a good time, most notably when I hooked up with very attractive, all natural, slender (small ass / small breasts, no tattoos) different black girls on 2 separate occasions. The price as with all the RJ termas that I know of was fixed by the house with the only price variation being for a room upgrade and or an increase in time. The room upgrade is not necessary in Prola Negra, worthless in 4 x 4, but well worth considering in Solarium. On one occasion I had a 3-way with 2 Solarium girls, but before we went upstairs the girls suggested the room upgrade. It was worth it. The deluxe room upgrade was spotless. It had a large round bed which was plenty ample for the 3 of us, and it had a large jacuzzi next to the bed. I forget how much more the room ran, but it was something like 400 BR additional, however, it really helped make that session memorable.

[QUOTE=Global00;2948521]Recent outings have made me question what I thought was a real easy find in the Brazil pay for play arena: the rotund bunda grande. I see it more outside of this arena way more walking around doing errands and relaxing at the beach. Went out Friday night and it was a struggle.

4 x4.

Showed up around 9:30 pm. Place is less than half full. Maybe around 15 girls and less guys. Talent severely down here. I came last Friday around the same time and it was the same crop of girls there. A girl told me last week it was slow because of Rock in Rio but it was over this weekend so could not use that excuse. There were like two bunda grandes there but one of them I session with before a year ago and didn't want to do it again and the other looked old. Not saying the girls weren't doable because in a context where I'm not being direct and transactional, they are fuckable. But in this setting, it didn't really meet my expectations. So I left after sitting and waiting to see if anything else showed up..[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk?si=we3sPDlgzWs1IEi2[/URL]

This is a good guide for how to dress and act in Rio: 1. Dudalina shirt, 2. Cargo Bermuda shorts 3 tennis shoes 4. Weapon in waist carry Israeli style. No round in chamber 5. Whey protein powder until you are not fat 6 . Extra credit for Muay Thai shorts and t shirt under neath. Learn all your portoguese from porta dos fundos. Duolingo too.

[QUOTE=DasBooty;2948728]That is a sad development if true. I went in 2015 and 2018 and it was culo gigante capital of the world. Especially at 4 x4 and Monte Carlo.[/QUOTE]I think there are still plenty girls shape wise right up your alley, but it may just seem that way to me because for every large bunda terma girl I see, it means one less slim one for me. KKK.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2946429]Digital cameras and social media really changed the girls attitude towards showing off in front of cameras. I've just started to transfer camcorder videos to my PC. Several hundreds of tapes filmed during 1992-2007, before I started using digital cameras. Mainly homemade sexvideos, videos from Othon ho-beach and the carnival parties at Help, Scala and Monte Libano.

What strikes me the most how happy and eager the girls were to be filmed and have their photos taken. Many girls thought it was fun to be filmed during the sex act and watch afterwards. Today many girls are afraid up ending up on the internet.

I've almost not watched these videos since they were filmed. Specially the beach videos shows a big difference compared to today. The girls were much fitter, less fat people and silicon tits and asses were rare.[/QUOTE]The last line says a lot. I think most Brazilian working girls that I see about are in pretty good shape, since many of them go to the gym, and workout multiple times per week. They do not have tummy troubles, or tummy rolls which is becoming an increasing problem with working girls in Thailand. The problem for me is that many of these big ass / full frame Brazilian girls of today have tight bodies, yes, but unfortunately that is not what turns me on. I prefer soft / no fat bodies.

Much appreciated. Trying to contribute when I can. And my report could be just bad timing and hopefully in the few months I'm here, I will run into what I'm looking for. Luckily I don't have a type per se but I know certain locations offer different body types. After Rio, I will be in Thailand and I don't expect to run into any grande bunda and will be perfect fine with the beauty Asia has to offer. I enjoy the world's beauty wherever I go. I just expected different results on the nights I was out. No biggie. I'm still in paradise so it's more about unmet expectations. I will enjoy my time for sure as I always do and will try to keep making reports on how things go. Cheers.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2948863]Great reviews Global. I enjoyed reading your report. Everybody has differing tastes in girls. My tastes are almost the complete opposite yours in that I seek only slender girls with small asses and natural ta ta's. And believe me this preference of mine eliminates a hell of a lot of girls from consideration even when they have pretty faces. Interestingly, another BM recently noted that the girls were a lot thinner with smaller asses, and relatively tattoo free back in the Help days. Too bad I missed that action.

On Prola Negra (damn the error checker), I have been there around 6 times, although never when there was live music. I always had a good time, most notably when I hooked up with very attractive, all natural, slender (small ass / small breasts, no tattoos) different black girls on 2 separate occasions. The price as with all the RJ termas that I know of was fixed by the house with the only price variation being for a room upgrade and or an increase in time. The room upgrade is not necessary in Prola Negra, worthless in 4 x 4, but well worth considering in Solarium. On one occasion I had a 3-way with 2 Solarium girls, but before we went upstairs the girls suggested the room upgrade. It was worth it. The deluxe room upgrade was spotless. It had a large round bed which was plenty ample for the 3 of us, and it had a large jacuzzi next to the bed. I forget how much more the room ran, but it was something like 400 BR additional, however, it really helped make that session memorable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global00;2948521] Snip

Prola Negra.

About 20-30 girls. Live band taking up a chunk of the club space but people were enjoying themselves. Probably the most numerous big bundas here may be like 4. One I had already session with and she is older now so didn't want to go with her again. Settle on a 23 year old with a decent size butt spoke English and session was ok. Nothing special. I noticed that a lot of girls were asking for 700-800 for an hour. I told the girl I went with that seemed like gringo prices but when we were checking out, a Brazilian guy was paying 750 for probably one of the best looking girls there. He has two girls with him and the lady at the desk showed him a calculator for both as 750 a piece. He decided to only go with one. I talked mine down to 400. She said girls charge whatever they want.

It was an ok night but maybe my expectations and past experiences are clouding my rating. Or I think I might have to change my strategy and just pull regular girls I see out when I'm running errands and not rely on the pay for play arena to meet my expectations. Just have to adapt to meet my expectations.[/QUOTE]Posters have confirmed that Perola Negra is a terma with fixed house pricing, not freelancers setting their own rates. Unless they switched to freelancer bar the night you were there, you were presumably not at Perola Negra. The only club nearby is Paris Cafe. Did you perhaps confuse the two?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2949230]Posters have confirmed that Perola Negra is a terma with fixed house pricing, not freelancers setting their own rates. Unless they switched to freelancer bar the night you were there, you were presumably not at Perola Negra. The only club nearby is Paris Cafe. Did you perhaps confuse the two?[/QUOTE]I relayed what she told me while we negotiated. At her highest price, she did mention a better room. Maybe that is a fixed amount for the room. But she offered me multiple prices and different ways to pay. For example, she said I could pay her 350 and leave her a $200 tip. So pay the house and then tip her I'm assuming. The few times I been here I paid different amounts. In the termas, they list out the prices near the cashier's. I didn't see anything equivalent when I was in Pérola. But she was also telling me all this in English which is a second language. Maybe something was lost in translation. Hope that helps.

(fiction) Riofornication Covid 27.

Jimmy Boy 99, aka, enzo ferrrari, is a former bank regulator for Switzerland, having worked out of the lugano office for 59 years of his 91 years, before retiring in disgrace for a scandal with a french hooker, a brazilian hooker, and an italian hooker, one of whom had a huge clit, if you know what I mean. Jimmy Boy did not perceive that the italian hooker had a massive clit until she dropped her panties, at which point, Jimmy Boy canceled the session, so speak, with a thin, light laptop, which he frisbeeéthe across the room at her throat, cutting off her head, though not cleanly. Jimmy Boy 99, though having had family in the Swiss NAVY Special Warfare, guards for the Pagan Pope, Francis Macumba, got out of it with some judges getting blow jobs from the french hooker and the brazilian hooker.

As he writes this, JimmyBoy99 is with his sister at the family home on Lake Como, where he greets seaplanes with Rocco Siffreddi, Nacho Vidal, and Annette Schwartz and her younger sorority sisters from a Lutheran university and various German hookers. When he finally gets some surgery done on his eyes, and finishes his daily 14 kilometer walk up and down the Italian alps, he will get on his cell phone and order a flight to Rio where we will convene a grand council of the Pimp Legion of Doom.

[QUOTE=Global00;2949355]I relayed what she told me while we negotiated. At her highest price, she did mention a better room. Maybe that is a fixed amount for the room. But she offered me multiple prices and different ways to pay. For example, she said I could pay her 350 and leave her a $200 tip. So pay the house and then tip her I'm assuming. The few times I been here I paid different amounts. In the termas, they list out the prices near the cashier's. I didn't see anything equivalent when I was in Prola. But she was also telling me all this in English which is a second language. Maybe something was lost in translation. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2927126]If you're bringing cash exchange your money at a 'Cambio' not in your hotel, I know everybody knows this but a few years ago I gave a girl a $100 bill and told her it's equal to 500 reais, next day she called me to complain she got much less, she exchanged in a hotel not a cambio. If you don't know any there's an American on Rua Xavier da Silvieira 15 called Blame it on Rio for travel, his name is Bobby, tell him Bobby sent you LOL. Last time I was there I exchanged $1,000 and asked for a better rate and they finally gave in for this larger amount, they may not discount for a few hundred. You can even rent a bike and get your clothes washed there among other things.[/QUOTE]I looked this up on google, and it says permanently closed. Any idea if this is accurate? Does anyone else know the next best place to exchange dollars for reais? No, I did not find a clear answer and I searched a bunch of different combinations of words related to money exchange. This website could benefit from a pinned FAQ mega post like what used to be on reddit.

[QUOTE=Global00;2948521]Recent outings have made me question what I thought was a real easy find in the Brazil pay for play arena: the rotund bunda grande. I see it more outside of this arena way more walking around doing errands and relaxing at the beach. Went out Friday night and it was a struggle.

4 x4.

Showed up around 9:30 pm. Place is less than half full. Maybe around 15 girls and less guys. Talent severely down here. I came last Friday around the same time and it was the same crop of girls there. A girl told me last week it was slow because of Rock in Rio but it was over this weekend so could not use that excuse. There were like two bunda grandes there but one of them I session with before a year ago and didn't want to do it again and the other looked old. Not saying the girls weren't doable because in a context where I'm not being direct and transactional, they are fuckable. But in this setting, it didn't really meet my expectations. So I left after sitting and waiting to see if anything else showed up.[/QUOTE]I would discourage anyone from going to 4 x4 that late. The place caters to Brazilian men who work in / around Centro. This crowd rolls in after work and peaks far earlier than tourists would expect. I show up around 5-5:30 and take the energy in. More girls (and guys) seem to surface in the next hour or so. The girls make their money and disappear. Every night is different, but it's best to score between 5 and 8 pm then just spend time chilling and perhaps collecting a phone number or two. Some guys score early so they can go for a second trip upstairs.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2949481]I would discourage anyone from going to 4 x4 that late. The place caters to Brazilian men who work in / around Centro. This crowd rolls in after work and peaks far earlier than tourists would expect. I show up around 5-5:30 and take the energy in. More girls (and guys) seem to surface in the next hour or so. The girls make their money and disappear. Every night is different, but it's best to score between 5 and 8 pm then just spend time chilling and perhaps collecting a phone number or two. Some guys score early so they can go for a second trip upstairs.[/QUOTE]+1. I agree with this based on my observation last 3+ years.

[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;2949468]I looked this up on google, and it says permanently closed. Any idea if this is accurate? Does anyone else know the next best place to exchange dollars for reais? No, I did not find a clear answer and I searched a bunch of different combinations of words related to money exchange. This website could benefit from a pinned FAQ mega post like what used to be on reddit.[/QUOTE]Last November I spoke a person at the exchange office right next to SOVA Natural bakery in Copa (right opposite the address RioBob gave). I was given better rate than published rate if I exchange big dollar bills. For some reason I didn't trust him, so I didn't exchange money at the location. Who knows, maybe he was legit. I mostly used Brodesco ATMs in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2949854]Last November I spoke a person at the exchange office right next to SOVA Natural bakery in Copa (right opposite the address RioBob gave). I was given better rate than published rate if I exchange big dollar bills. For some reason I didn't trust him, so I didn't exchange money at the location. Who knows, maybe he was legit. I mostly used Brodesco ATMs in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Ah okay, I will just look up Bradesco ATMs near me. This method worked for me in Colombia so I hope it works fine there. The exchange rates for dollars is always bad at airports. I was told by a local girl I am talking to ahead of time that "no one takes cash anymore" so I was worried. I'm not going through the hassle of getting a pix. They'll have to make do with cash. I land next week! Thanks man.

Yesterday Vagabundo went into centro, fucked Cherry torn, a codename as the hoar gave up her nice little pussy bare. The cost was 250 r. Lesson learned, need to bring a nice big bottle of lube, as the lube in the house was just these little packets and Vagabundo who now trains muay Thai twice a week with 22 year olds whom he submits like the little 73 kg boys they are fucked for 35 minutes for the first pop, and then another 5 minutes at the end for the second pop needs a manly supply of lubricant. Speaking of which, he now will go again to centro and spear a bare pink clam with his penis before going and getting hit in the face by sweet little ladies from various barrios in Rio, which turns him the fuck on, like hit me with your best shot, fire away!

Hi guys,

I'm looking forward to make a dream come true and book 3 weeks in Rio on Feb 25 when Carneval is going on. I will study the last year of this thread heavily but maybe you guys have some hotel recommendations that are 'gust-friendly' near ipanema beach?

I'm looking for BarraVIPsRio material in first place. I would like to check out a couple of barravips girls in my own hotel room. Rates are very interesting to me here. But also if barravipsgirls are open for overnights or escorting to famous travel spots, city shopping or beach chilling and how these rates turn out in case I like one and decide to pay here for some quality time offside the hotel.

I'm also into visiting termas or love hotels but I already have good info on these so my main interest is.

1) Hotels near Ipanema that are girl / guest friendly.

2) BarraVIPRio rates.

3) Where to fiend BarraVIPRio quality girls besides BarraVIPRio.

[QUOTE=RickFlair;2951400]Hi guys,

I'm looking forward to make a dream come true and book 3 weeks in Rio on Feb 25 when Carneval is going on. I will study the last year of this thread heavily but maybe you guys have some hotel recommendations that are 'gust-friendly' near ipanema beach?

I'm looking for BarraVIPsRio material in first place. I would like to check out a couple of barravips girls in my own hotel room. Rates are very interesting to me here. But also if barravipsgirls are open for overnights or escorting to famous travel spots, city shopping or beach chilling and how these rates turn out in case I like one and decide to pay here for some quality time offside the hotel.

I'm also into visiting termas or love hotels but I already have good info on these so my main interest is.

1) Hotels near Ipanema that are girl / guest friendly.

2) BarraVIPRio rates.

3) Where to fiend BarraVIPRio quality girls besides BarraVIPRio.[/QUOTE]1) hotels near Ipanema? Well Copacabana is near Ipanema, I would suggest copacabana hotels but in Ipanema / Arpoador take a look at the Fasano keeping in mind that any accommodation during carnival will be extremely expensive.

2) Barra rates, this is a site of independent providers so their prices will vary depending upon what the girl wants and can get. Say something like 600 to 1,000 reais for the first hour. Through the years I have taken some of these girls on nightly dates dinner / swing clubs and paid them about 50% above their hour rate for the night. But keep in mind if she is in demand she would be giving up a few hourly rate gigs to be with you for less, she would have to find you very interesting in order to do that.

3) Barra VIP quality is pretty good, in my opinion I would go to Dolce Vita on Thursday through Saturday about midnight, get a drink and just wait something nice will walk in sooner or later. From what I see here guys go in don't see anything they like and leave in half an hour this is why they say there is nothing there. But if you have patience and especially during high season something to your liking will eventually walk in. These girls are a better choice than barra girls because they'll hang out with you. Girls I met at dolce text me all year to hang out with me and some from years ago so it's a place with a good supply of friendly girls you just have to be smart to find them.

[QUOTE=RickFlair;2951400]Hi guys,

I'm looking forward to make a dream come true and book 3 weeks in Rio on Feb 25 when Carneval is going on. I will study the last year of this thread heavily but maybe you guys have some hotel recommendations that are 'gust-friendly' near ipanema beach?

I'm looking for BarraVIPsRio material in first place. I would like to check out a couple of barravips girls in my own hotel room. Rates are very interesting to me here. But also if barravipsgirls are open for overnights or escorting to famous travel spots, city shopping or beach chilling and how these rates turn out in case I like one and decide to pay here for some quality time offside the hotel.

I'm also into visiting termas or love hotels but I already have good info on these so my main interest is.

1) Hotels near Ipanema that are girl / guest friendly.

2) BarraVIPRio rates.

3) Where to fiend BarraVIPRio quality girls besides BarraVIPRio.[/QUOTE]Book a refundable rate now or very soon. Carnaval in Rio is no joke. There is a shortage of hotels in Rio Zona Sul as it is, and you might have to pay through your nose if wait too long.

The closest GF hotel to Ipanema seems to be Fairmont. Otherwise, JW Marriott and Hilton in Copa are GF, too.

There will also be a shortage on GOPs (which doesn't mean you won't find them, only that you'll have to pay premium). Girls will be more than happy to stay (and go) with you as long as you want, at the rate that THEY want. No way to prebook those, LOL.

So yes, it's going to cost you, but if you've never been to Rio during the Carnaval, certainly go. This madness must be experienced once.

I have been recently to Rio de Janeiro and met Vagabundo. It was a great time. It is my 4th or 5th visit to Rio, so check out my other reports. This report is only an add-on to my previous reports and some insights. Also please note that it is for someone that spends a bit more than just a short fuck in Centro Prives. I was looking for a girl to stay with me for longer time.

Hotels:

I stayed in Copacabana, I like it. It is close to Dolce Vita and Mab's and nicer to stay next to the beach. It is also 35 minutes drive from the center.

Be careful, most of the hotels does not like that you bring visitors. Although I had a room for 3 people one of the receptionist have made be some troubles but most of them were ok with me bringing girls. Make sure the girls are not dressed as hookers but dressed a bit more nicely and you will be able to let them inside the hotel.

DO NOT book and apartment from [URL]Booking.com[/URL] - they don't let you talk with the owner before. I had lost money there.

Girls:

Had nice success in 4 x4; beautiful girls although a bit too much of cheap look. But that's the place I liked most.

Vagabundo took me to another Terma which was quite interesting.

Best way to find girls is to find a good girl that will bring her friends. Do not try to book a girl that your other girls is not familiar with. I made that mistake and I almost lost one of the girls I like. A 21 years old mulata with dreamy eyes.

Dolce Vita and Mab's were also quite ok. Had a nice experience with two real sisters.

Brazilian girls like to eat a lot. Like, I take them out, they eat the whole menu. I bought some groceries to prepare breakfast, they ate it all on the same night almost and also finished three bottles of wine.

I went to see one night how does Barra the Tijuca works. Went to a massage there Prisma Massage, it was quite a bad experience and expensive.

But the whole restaurants area of Barra the Tijuca was packed with beautiful young girls wearing jeans and bikini top going out at night. Mesmerizing view but I couldn't understand if they are working girls (Garotas de Programa) or just regular young girls. I just looked and looked and didn't have any success talking to them. I still feel I need to investigate this area more.

I booked a few girls from BarrasVIP. Was not a very good success. High prices and the girls are not that high quality. I can find the same quality even in Mab's or 4 x4. I had a few successes in Photoacompnhantes with girls and some girls were not so good. The problem with booking to the room is you never know what you're going to get. The girls photos from both websites were real photos but it is the girl attitude that you can not control. Some were nice and some sucked. So I prefer to stay with finding one nice girl and letting her bring her girlfriends.

Last thing is that the girls are very hard to communicate with, not because of the language barrier but culture. You set a meeting at 15:00, they send you I will be there at 15:30 and eventually shows up at 17:00. Very frustrating. They are also very jealous, so inviting another girl or saying something that they don't like and they might block you on whatsapp. I guess if they were smarter and more open minded they could have make much more money but then again they wouldn't be a working girl if they were smart.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]

Be careful, most of the hotels does not like that you bring visitors. Although I had a room for 3 people one of the receptionist have made be some troubles but most of them were ok with me bringing girls. Make sure the girls are not dressed as hookers but dressed a bit more nicely and you will be able to let them inside the hotel.

.[/QUOTE]What was the issue with the receptionist? How did you resolve it?

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]

DO NOT book and apartment from [URL]Booking.com[/URL] - they don't let you talk with the owner before. I had lost money there.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? I only once booked a rental on Booking and was able to talk to the owner of that Salvador penthouse. She assured me that her "no visitors" thingy didn't really mean it, which turned out to be true and led to one of my most memorable stays in Brazil. That was a long time ago, though.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]I went to see one night how does Barra the Tijuca works. Went to a massage there Prisma Massage, it was quite a bad experience and expensive.

But the whole restaurants area of Barra the Tijuca was packed with beautiful young girls wearing jeans and bikini top going out at night. Mesmerizing view but I couldn't understand if they are working girls (Garotas de Programa) or just regular young girls. I just looked and looked and didn't have any success talking to them. I still feel I need to investigate this area more.[/QUOTE]Barra is an upscale, middle-class Rio neighborhood. Girls you're seeing there aren't GDPs, at least most of them.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]You set a meeting at 15:00, they send you I will be there at 15:30 and eventually shows up at 17:00. Very frustrating. They are also very jealous, so inviting another girl or saying something that they don't like and they might block you on whatsapp. I guess if they were smarter and more open minded they could have make much more money but then again they wouldn't be a working girl if they were smart.[/QUOTE]You're not kidding! I had a girl throw a fit at a nice Buzios restaurant because she thought I was checking someone's ass (and maybe I was, but WTF, you're not my GF! Of course, I put her on the bus back home next morning.

Look, I see early signs of flakiness as a blessing. If she's 2 hrs late, why encourage bad behavior? I'd just cancel, go out and have someone else. She blocks you on WA (provided you weren't rude or offensive) -- her loss, too. There are girls who aren't flakey or not too flakey (although the longer she's with you, the more she tends to forget she's just serving at your pleasure). When that happens, I jokingly give her a warning, and if she fails to heed it -- cut them loose. I'm in Rio for less than 2 weeks at a time -- the last thing I need is a Brazilian soap opera unfolding in my space. Thanks, but no thanks.

Good report, thanks. See you again in a few months.

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]I have been recently to Rio de Janeiro and met Vagabundo. It was a great time. It is my 4th or 5th visit to Rio, so check out my other reports. This report is only an add-on to my previous reports and some insights. Also please note that it is for someone that spends a bit more than just a short fuck in Centro Prives. I was looking for a girl to stay with me for longer time.

Hotels:

I stayed in Copacabana, I like it. It is close to Dolce Vita and Mab's and nicer to stay next to the beach. It is also 35 minutes drive from the center.

Be careful, most of the hotels does not like that you bring visitors. Although I had a room for 3 people one of the receptionist have made be some troubles but most of them were ok with me bringing girls. Make sure the girls are not dressed as hookers but dressed a bit more nicely and you will be able to let them inside the hotel.

DO NOT book and apartment from [URL]Booking.com[/URL] - they don't let you talk with the owner before. I had lost money there.

Girls:

Had nice success in 4 x4; beautiful girls although a bit too much of cheap look. But that's the place I liked most.

Vagabundo took me to another Terma which was quite interesting.

Best way to find girls is to find a good girl that will bring her friends. Do not try to book a girl that your other girls is not familiar with. I made that mistake and I almost lost one of the girls I like. A 21 years old mulata with dreamy eyes.

Dolce Vita and Mab's were also quite ok. Had a nice experience with two real sisters.

Brazilian girls like to eat a lot. Like, I take them out, they eat the whole menu. I bought some groceries to prepare breakfast, they ate it all on the same night almost and also finished three bottles of wine.

I went to see one night how does Barra the Tijuca works. Went to a massage there Prisma Massage, it was quite a bad experience and expensive.

But the whole restaurants area of Barra the Tijuca was packed with beautiful young girls wearing jeans and bikini top going out at night. Mesmerizing view but I couldn't understand if they are working girls (Garotas de Programa) or just regular young girls. I just looked and looked and didn't have any success talking to them. I still feel I need to investigate this area more.

I booked a few girls from BarrasVIP. Was not a very good success. High prices and the girls are not that high quality. I can find the same quality even in Mab's or 4 x4. I had a few successes in Photoacompnhantes with girls and some girls were not so good. The problem with booking to the room is you never know what you're going to get. The girls photos from both websites were real photos but it is the girl attitude that you can not control. Some were nice and some sucked. So I prefer to stay with finding one nice girl and letting her bring her girlfriends.

Last thing is that the girls are very hard to communicate with, not because of the language barrier but culture. You set a meeting at 15:00, they send you I will be there at 15:30 and eventually shows up at 17:00. Very frustrating. They are also very jealous, so inviting another girl or saying something that they don't like and they might block you on whatsapp. I guess if they were smarter and more open minded they could have make much more money but then again they wouldn't be a working girl if they were smart.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]I have been recently to Rio de Janeiro and met Vagabundo. It was a great time. It is my 4th or 5th visit to Rio, so check out my other reports. This report is only an add-on to my previous reports and some insights.
[/QUOTE]I appreciate you sharing your real experience as is. Please continue to do so.

I never tried online options in Brazil. I was considering trying during my next trip like BarrasVIP but I will keep you input in mind.

I have visited Rio well before pandemic but I guess some things may have changed since then. Can someone please help me find answers to following questions?

1. Does GIG still have the Uber pick up outside international arrivals area at the airport (one has to cross one or two lanes) or is it now only at the domestic arrival section?

2. Does InDriver work in Rio and relaible?

3. What is the going rate at 4 x4 and other prives in Copa and Centro area for half an hour or 45 minutes of action?

4. Any GF hotel recommendations in Copa area?

5. SIM. I had some trouble getting SIM last time and have read that other than the eSim, the second best option is to buy a TIM SIM from a newstand rather than go to official store in Rio Sul and then call the number, use option 3 and 3 again to get service in English and get it activated with your passport number. Is this still the best advise or is it possible to get a tourist sim for a week by going to a store in rio sul shopping mall?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can spare time to answer any or all of the above.

Day 1:

Landed in GIG, caught an Uber from the Airport to Copa. Cost $80, but gave him $90 since he waited while I searched for the pickup location. Taxis sent me to the wrong location of course LOL. If you take Uber, exit on the ground floor where the taxis are, make a left walking past them and another left at the corner. When setting up your pickup location, choose orange. EDIT: I don't know where my mind was at LOL. My UBER app is tied to my card, meaning I gave the guy $80+$90 hahahahahahah. And he didn't blink. Dumb gringo. At least I caught myself when I was about to do the same thing the next day LOL.

I didn't really see anything worthwhile on seeking. And replies on Tinder have been hit or miss so I'm going in armed with all the great nuggets the team here have provided. Thanks to all of you who contribute! 
8232;Still tired from the flight I didn't go out other than to eat. Hoping to change that tune tomorrow. I still need to get a SIM card. The lady at the airport wanted $300 for 10 GB of data from some no name company. No thank you. I'll try my luck tomorrow at Claro.

Day 2:

I made an appointment via WhatsApp to get a Brazilian wax. Incorpore Estetica. Cost $145. It's my first time so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I'm satisfied. No frills, the woman doing it wasn't bad looking at all, but it was completely professional. Not even one stroke LOL. EDIT: 2 days later and I'm still happy I with the results.

Bounced around to get a SIM for my phone. Claro was complicated. The easy button is going to the TIM store located in the Leblon shopping mall (1st floor), showed a picture of my passport and was in / out in 5 min. 15 GB $150 ish it was $10 more for the card itself. Good for at least 30 days.

Decided to walk back by the beach, sooo much eye candy. I wish I spoke Portuguese. Anyway, today I learned not to wear any jewlery when like a hawk swooping in on its prey a cyclist snatched my gold chain from under my shirt behind my neck. Bananas. Seriously guys, be careful.

So here we go, I went to Sala 302 and sessioned with sounds Harlwe? Maybe. She's probably 4'11" with a giant natural phatty and nice tits. She had a little buddah tummy, but zero marks. She asked if I wanted a massage. It's been a long day so I went for it. It was actually a good massage, surprisingly. Then the flip. BBBJ, very good, no deep throat, but not one of those BS tip of the head fails. Switch to cowgirl, then finished on la 4's. I took an hour and still had about 20 min left, but didn't feel up to the 2nd round. Getting old I guess. I remember back in my blue door days in Medellin going back to back to back. Anyways at $170 for the half and $220 for an hour, I'm not complaining. I got her WhatsApp for later. I'the like to wake up to that one day.

Day 3:

Back to Sala 302. I was told they were at capacity and to up to 401. So I got on the elevator that accidentally went down and to my surprise a lovely lady who I saw in the lineup yesterday entered the elevator late for work. Her name was Gaby. About 5'8" pretty eyes, enthusiastic, natural body fuckable tits, little mama belly, but all around sexy. She likes kissing and tried to seduce me when she moved to the BBBJ. She enjoyed watching herself in the mirrors (walls / ceiling) and instructed me to do the same. Popped twice. Showered in between.

Brought a garota back to my hotel for the night. No numbers were discussed up front. I know, dangerous game, but I risked it and glad I did. Perfect Brazilian body just what the doctor ordered.

Day 4:

Started the day off right the way I like. True girlfriend experience. Unfortunately, we stayed in my room all day, ordering in and just enjoying the moment. I gifted her $1000. I thought it might be too little compared to a few runs at 4 x4, but she didn't seem disappointed. Around 7 she said she would leave at 8. I'm guessing to give me a last-call or sorts. I took the hint, we rolled and she left at 9.

Although it's been fun, and I could definitely do another day or two here I feel it's time to move on. Either Salvador or SP. Either way, different forum boys. Catch you later.

The main things are.

1. Learn as much portoguese as possible before coming to Brazil.

2. Shorter term trips less than 7 days are going to be difficult because the girls are going to gringo you, ie, jack up the prices. Ideally at least 3 weeks, better yet 3 months is the right length for a trip.

3. We' re also going into not just the high season with carnvival and all that trash, but also G20, so the natives are getting cocky, thinking the BRICs are going to finally not just be the developing world. We'll see about that. Brazil is a special case, as they are like the highest social media users in the world and they are getting all bent out of shape about twitter, etc (fkn knuckleheads, I mean, show me one global tech firm that has come out of Brazil).

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]I have been recently to Rio de Janeiro and met Vagabundo. It was a great time. It is my 4th or 5th visit to Rio, so check out my other reports. This report is only an add-on to my previous reports and some insights. Also please note that it is for someone that spends a bit more than just a short fuck in Centro Prives. I was looking for a girl to stay with me for longer time.

Hotels:

I stayed in Copacabana, I like it. It is close to Dolce Vita and Mab's and nicer to stay next to the beach. It is also 35 minutes drive from the center.

Be careful, most of the hotels does not like that you bring visitors. Although I had a room for 3 people one of the receptionist have made be some troubles but most of them were ok with me bringing girls. Make sure the girls are not dressed as hookers but dressed a bit more nicely and you will be able to let them inside the hotel.

DO NOT book and apartment from [URL]Booking.com[/URL] - they don't let you talk with the owner before. I had lost money there.

Girls:

Had nice success in 4 x4; beautiful girls although a bit too much of cheap look. But that's the place I liked most.

Vagabundo took me to another Terma which was quite interesting.

Best way to find girls is to find a good girl that will bring her friends. Do not try to book a girl that your other girls is not familiar with. I made that mistake and I almost lost one of the girls I like. A 21 years old mulata with dreamy eyes.

Dolce Vita and Mab's were also quite ok. Had a nice experience with two real sisters.

Brazilian girls like to eat a lot. Like, I take them out, they eat the whole menu. I bought some groceries to prepare breakfast, they ate it all on the same night almost and also finished three bottles of wine.

I went to see one night how does Barra the Tijuca works. Went to a massage there Prisma Massage, it was quite a bad experience and expensive.

But the whole restaurants area of Barra the Tijuca was packed with beautiful young girls wearing jeans and bikini top going out at night. Mesmerizing view but I couldn't understand if they are working girls (Garotas de Programa) or just regular young girls. I just looked and looked and didn't have any success talking to them. I still feel I need to investigate this area more.

I booked a few girls from BarrasVIP. Was not a very good success. High prices and the girls are not that high quality. I can find the same quality even in Mab's or 4 x4. I had a few successes in Photoacompnhantes with girls and some girls were not so good. The problem with booking to the room is you never know what you're going to get. The girls photos from both websites were real photos but it is the girl attitude that you can not control. Some were nice and some sucked. So I prefer to stay with finding one nice girl and letting her bring her girlfriends.

Last thing is that the girls are very hard to communicate with, not because of the language barrier but culture. You set a meeting at 15:00, they send you I will be there at 15:30 and eventually shows up at 17:00. Very frustrating. They are also very jealous, so inviting another girl or saying something that they don't like and they might block you on whatsapp. I guess if they were smarter and more open minded they could have make much more money but then again they wouldn't be a working girl if they were smart.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IsaBahn;2951664]I .

Brazilian girls like to eat a lot. Like, I take them out, they eat the whole menu. I bought some groceries to prepare breakfast, they ate it all on the same night almost and also finished three bottles of wine.

I[/QUOTE]You are right I didn't realize till you point it out. Either the will order from Mackey Donald's and eat the entire menu or like raid my fridge.

I recall this one chick kept opening up chips and snacks I Had. But like I thought as a joke eating one and then opening another etc. I was hanging out and she was going to town.

When she left she drank the entire 6 pack of skol, all the chips, chocolate, 2 cans of guana and left me with just empty bags! They HOUSE food and somehow are still not fat.

Are you talking about $1,000 US dollars for a Rio ho?

[QUOTE=Blue42;2951996]Day 1:

Landed in GIG, caught an Uber from the Airport to Copa. Cost $80, but gave him $90 since he waited while I searched for the pickup location. Taxis sent me to the wrong location of course LOL. If you take Uber, exit on the ground floor where the taxis are, make a left walking past them and another left at the corner. When setting up your pickup location, choose orange. EDIT: I don't know where my mind was at LOL. My UBER app is tied to my card, meaning I gave the guy $80+$90 hahahahahahah. And he didn't blink. Dumb gringo. At least I caught myself when I was about to do the same thing the next day LOL.

I didn't really see anything worthwhile on seeking. And replies on Tinder have been hit or miss so I'm going in armed with all the great nuggets the team here have provided. Thanks to all of you who contribute! 
8232;Still tired from the flight I didn't go out other than to eat. Hoping to change that tune tomorrow. I still need to get a SIM card. The lady at the airport wanted $300 for 10 GB of data from some no name company. No thank you. I'll try my luck tomorrow at Claro.

Day 2:

I made an appointment via WhatsApp to get a Brazilian wax. Incorpore Estetica. Cost $145. It's my first time so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I'm satisfied. No frills, the woman doing it wasn't bad looking at all, but it was completely professional. Not even one stroke LOL. EDIT: 2 days later and I'm still happy I with the results.

Bounced around to get a SIM for my phone. Claro was complicated. The easy button is going to the TIM store located in the Leblon shopping mall (1st floor), showed a picture of my passport and was in / out in 5 min. 15 GB $150 ish it was $10 more for the card itself. Good for at least 30 days.

Decided to walk back by the beach, sooo much eye candy. I wish I spoke Portuguese. Anyway, today I learned not to wear any jewlery when like a hawk swooping in on its prey a cyclist snatched my gold chain from under my shirt behind my neck. Bananas. Seriously guys, be careful.

So here we go, I went to Sala 302 and sessioned with sounds Harlwe? Maybe. She's probably 4'11" with a giant natural phatty and nice tits. She had a little buddah tummy, but zero marks. She asked if I wanted a massage. It's been a long day so I went for it. It was actually a good massage, surprisingly. Then the flip. BBBJ, very good, no deep throat, but not one of those BS tip of the head fails. Switch to cowgirl, then finished on la 4's. I took an hour and still had about 20 min left, but didn't feel up to the 2nd round. Getting old I guess. I remember back in my blue door days in Medellin going back to back to back. Anyways at $170 for the half and $220 for an hour, I'm not complaining. I got her WhatsApp for later. I'the like to wake up to that one day.

Day 3:

Back to Sala 302. I was told they were at capacity and to up to 401. So I got on the elevator that accidentally went down and to my surprise a lovely lady who I saw in the lineup yesterday entered the elevator late for work. Her name was Gaby. About 5'8" pretty eyes, enthusiastic, natural body fuckable tits, little mama belly, but all around sexy. She likes kissing and tried to seduce me when she moved to the BBBJ. She enjoyed watching herself in the mirrors (walls / ceiling) and instructed me to do the same. Popped twice. Showered in between.

Brought a garota back to my hotel for the night. No numbers were discussed up front. I know, dangerous game, but I risked it and glad I did. Perfect Brazilian body just what the doctor ordered.

Day 4:

Started the day off right the way I like. True girlfriend experience. Unfortunately, we stayed in my room all day, ordering in and just enjoying the moment. I gifted her $1000. I thought it might be too little compared to a few runs at 4 x4, but she didn't seem disappointed. Around 7 she said she would leave at 8. I'm guessing to give me a last-call or sorts. I took the hint, we rolled and she left at 9.

Although it's been fun, and I could definitely do another day or two here I feel it's time to move on. Either Salvador or SP. Either way, different forum boys. Catch you later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2952189]You are right I didn't realize till you point it out. Either the will order from Mackey Donald's and eat the entire menu or like raid my fridge.

I recall this one chick kept opening up chips and snacks I Had. But like I thought as a joke eating one and then opening another etc. I was hanging out and she was going to town.

When she left she drank the entire 6 pack of skol, all the chips, chocolate, 2 cans of guana and left me with just empty bags! They HOUSE food and somehow are still not fat.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine why anyone would be surprised. Weed, Coke, or whatever these Garotas are on. They get. Hungry. LOL.

I hope you meant reais /R$ wherever you put $ in your report.

[QUOTE=Blue42;2951996]Day 1:

Landed in GIG, caught an Uber from the Airport to Copa. Cost $80, but gave him $90 since he waited while I searched for the pickup location. Taxis sent me to the wrong location of course LOL. If you take Uber, exit on the ground floor where the taxis are, make a left walking past them and another left at the corner. When setting up your pickup location, choose orange. EDIT: I don't know where my mind was at LOL. My UBER app is tied to my card, meaning I gave the guy $80+$90 hahahahahahah. And he didn't blink. Dumb gringo. At least I caught myself when I was about to do the same thing the next day LOL.

I didn't really see anything worthwhile on seeking. And replies on Tinder have been hit or miss so I'm going in armed with all the great nuggets the team here have provided. Thanks to all of you who contribute! 
8232;Still tired from the flight I didn't go out other than to eat. Hoping to change that tune tomorrow. I still need to get a SIM card. The lady at the airport wanted $300 for 10 GB of data from some no name company. No thank you. I'll try my luck tomorrow at Claro.

Day 2:

I made an appointment via WhatsApp to get a Brazilian wax. Incorpore Estetica. Cost $145. It's my first time so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I'm satisfied. No frills, the woman doing it wasn't bad looking at all, but it was completely professional. Not even one stroke LOL. EDIT: 2 days later and I'm still happy I with the results.

Bounced around to get a SIM for my phone. Claro was complicated. The easy button is going to the TIM store located in the Leblon shopping mall (1st floor), showed a picture of my passport and was in / out in 5 min. 15 GB $150 ish it was $10 more for the card itself. Good for at least 30 days.

Decided to walk back by the beach, sooo much eye candy. I wish I spoke Portuguese. Anyway, today I learned not to wear any jewlery when like a hawk swooping in on its prey a cyclist snatched my gold chain from under my shirt behind my neck. Bananas. Seriously guys, be careful.

So here we go, I went to Sala 302 and sessioned with sounds Harlwe? Maybe. She's probably 4'11" with a giant natural phatty and nice tits. She had a little buddah tummy, but zero marks. She asked if I wanted a massage. It's been a long day so I went for it. It was actually a good massage, surprisingly. Then the flip. BBBJ, very good, no deep throat, but not one of those BS tip of the head fails. Switch to cowgirl, then finished on la 4's. I took an hour and still had about 20 min left, but didn't feel up to the 2nd round. Getting old I guess. I remember back in my blue door days in Medellin going back to back to back. Anyways at $170 for the half and $220 for an hour, I'm not complaining. I got her WhatsApp for later. I'the like to wake up to that one day.

Day 3:

Back to Sala 302. I was told they were at capacity and to up to 401. So I got on the elevator that accidentally went down and to my surprise a lovely lady who I saw in the lineup yesterday entered the elevator late for work. Her name was Gaby. About 5'8" pretty eyes, enthusiastic, natural body fuckable tits, little mama belly, but all around sexy. She likes kissing and tried to seduce me when she moved to the BBBJ. She enjoyed watching herself in the mirrors (walls / ceiling) and instructed me to do the same. Popped twice. Showered in between.

Brought a garota back to my hotel for the night. No numbers were discussed up front. I know, dangerous game, but I risked it and glad I did. Perfect Brazilian body just what the doctor ordered.

Day 4:

Started the day off right the way I like. True girlfriend experience. Unfortunately, we stayed in my room all day, ordering in and just enjoying the moment. I gifted her $1000. I thought it might be too little compared to a few runs at 4 x4, but she didn't seem disappointed. Around 7 she said she would leave at 8. I'm guessing to give me a last-call or sorts. I took the hint, we rolled and she left at 9.

Although it's been fun, and I could definitely do another day or two here I feel it's time to move on. Either Salvador or SP. Either way, different forum boys. Catch you later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2951772]Are you sure? I only once booked a rental on Booking and was able to talk to the owner of that Salvador penthouse. She assured me that her "no visitors" thingy didn't really mean it, which turned out to be true and led to one of my most memorable stays in Brazil. That was a long time ago, though.

Barra is an upscale, middle-class Rio neighborhood. Girls you're seeing there aren't GDPs, at least most of them.

You're not kidding! I had a girl throw a fit at a nice Buzios restaurant because she thought I was checking someone's ass (and maybe I was, but WTF, you're not my GF! Of course, I put her on the bus back home next morning.

Look, I see early signs of flakiness as a blessing. If she's 2 hrs late, why encourage bad behavior? I'd just cancel, go out and have someone else. She blocks you on WA (provided you weren't rude or offensive) -- her loss, too. There are girls who aren't flakey or not too flakey (although the longer she's with you, the more she tends to forget she's just serving at your pleasure). When that happens, I jokingly give her a warning, and if she fails to heed it -- cut them loose. I'm in Rio for less than 2 weeks at a time -- the last thing I need is a Brazilian soap opera unfolding in my space. Thanks, but no thanks.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more. And I can't wait for my next visit to Rio.

[QUOTE=DaveTheKnave;2952193]Are you talking about $1,000 US dollars for a Rio ho?[/QUOTE]I find 1,000 Reals is a lot.

I haven't been to Rio for 15 years.

What are most people paying for basic 30 min of FS?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2952006]

3. We' re also going into not just the high season with carnvival and all that trash, but also G20, so the natives are getting cocky, thinking the BRICs are going to finally not just be the developing world. We'll see about that. Brazil is a special case, as they are like the highest social media users in the world and they are getting all bent out of shape about twitter, etc (fkn knuckleheads, I mean, show me one global tech firm that has come out of Brazil).[/QUOTE]I think they'll get there if they manage to move their ugly, incredibly controlling and totally fucked-up bureaucracy. Like you said, Brazilians are crazy about tech. I mean shit, when a grandma selling lemonade in a small Brazilian town has a credit card terminal, I think they should be OK. Of course, nothing good will ever come out of the country where it takes 5 months to register a business. Hopefully, that'll change one day.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2952328]I find 1,000 Reals is a lot.[/QUOTE]This is what, about $180? Well, he had her for a night and a day and was happy with her services. I don't know, but it doesn't sound too excessive to me.

Gents,

I am thinking of staying in either Ibis Copacabana Posto 2 or Copacabana Mar Hotel and wondering if either of these is guest-friendly. Or are there any other hotels nearby that are guest friendly? I did the RTFF but could not find any definitive information.

Thanks in advance for any intel.

In response to a post I read earlier about the girl eating him out of house and home.

Yes, Brazilian girls have massive appetites. Always asking for food and drinks.

But many of them are overweight. Obesity is just about as bad here as in the USA.

To be honest theres massive amounts of fat and ugly nasty girls here.

Regarding brazilians eating much. Some do and some don't. There are for sure much more fat people today than 20 years ago, but the obesity doesn't get close to the obesity in USA.

Anyway, it's interesting to visit restaurants that have "come a vontade". Usually these lunch restaurants are located in centro in all major cities in Brazil. You pay a fix price, like 10-25 reais, and have the right to get two pieces of meat / chicken and can fill upp your plate once from a buffet. It's absolutely amazing to see how much food the customers manage to fill up on a plate and it's unbelievable to see how some thin women manage to empty their huge plates. It can be quite disgusting to see how the customers overindulge.

They'll never get there if you mean creating world class companies.

The only world class biz Brazil produces is cheap pussy.

Rich Brazilians think they are legal geniuses.

Poor Brazilian cops are corrupt.

This will never end.

At least they have nice beaches.

Just don't over pay.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2952416]I think they'll get there if they manage to move their ugly, incredibly controlling and totally fucked-up bureaucracy. Like you said, Brazilians are crazy about tech. I mean shit, when a grandma selling lemonade in a small Brazilian town has a credit card terminal, I think they should be OK. Of course, nothing good will ever come out of the country where it takes 5 months to register a business. Hopefully, that'll change one day.

This is what, about $180? Well, he had her for a night and a day and was happy with her services. I don't know, but it doesn't sound too excessive to me.[/QUOTE]

Marquez, the literature of hoaring.

I was having a heinekein with an ISG member at darkroom Monday and I had a question.

So many members come into town for 3 days or 6 and then leave.

Marquez endures.

At ISG Member 3137 E thanks for the Heineken at darkroom? What is the name or reference for that Marquez incident where the other author punches him for cheating on his wife? I guess file this is under the literature of hoaring / Latin America / magical realism / Jorge amado / bossa nova / Brazil / fim / Fernanda torres.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2952502]They'll never get there if you mean creating world class companies.[/QUOTE]Buffet owns NuBank shares if that counts but it maybe the only one.

Who is Cherry Torn?

This is where Irony is defined. And confidentiality. You would have to be a actual, in person wingman to realize who the real Cherry Torn is. Which centro prive girl resembles Cherry Torn (see images attached) the scenes of which I will make come true soon! And who is Noemie Bilas?

Ok, that's a fair point. Point me to a case study on nubank, professor nounce, my colleague on the faculty of hoaring, the greatest university in the world. Hmmm.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2952706]Buffet owns NuBank shares if that counts but it maybe the only one.[/QUOTE]

Read all about the Garcia Marquez / Vargas Llosa incident here [URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/03/06/when-mario-vargas-llosa-punched-gabriel-garcia-marquez/&ved=2ahUKEwiTosTKw42JAxXPMVkFHW2jIZ8QFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1B_hi-Aw6z6p3rThOLrROm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2952696]Marquez, the literature of hoaring.

I was having a heinekein with an ISG member at darkroom Monday and I had a question.

So many members come into town for 3 days or 6 and then leave.

Marquez endures.

At ISG Member 3137 E thanks for the Heineken at darkroom? What is the name or reference for that Marquez incident where the other author punches him for cheating on his wife? I guess file this is under the literature of hoaring / Latin America / magical realism / Jorge amado / bossa nova / Brazil / fim / Fernanda torres.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2952706]Buffet owns NuBank shares if that counts but it maybe the only one.[/QUOTE]It's certainly not the only one. There are Embraer and Vale, and if I know these two, I'm sure there must be at least a dozen of Brazilian global companies. Probably more.

Long time lurker here, finally with an account. I need to start to thank all contributors on this forum, not just in this thread but also threads related to other cities. It makes it much easier to navigate a new city.

I have been to Rio a few times and I will be back in the beginning of November. I was thinking it could be fun to meetup with someone or a few people and have a few beers and enjoy a few hours together at some good place in Rio Send me a message if you would be interested.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2952928]It's certainly not the only one. There are Embraer and Vale, and if I know these two, I'm sure there must be at least a dozen of Brazilian global companies. Probably more.[/QUOTE]Sure, Petrobras, banks and natural resources but they are not considered global tech firm that VB1 was referring to.

[QUOTE=DaveTheKnave;2952193]Are you talking about $1,000 US dollars for a Rio ho?[/QUOTE]All in local currency.

This is written for 1st timers trying to decide whether to visit Rio. My perspective is tourist first; monger second.

Rio itself -.

* Crime and personal safety concern I found to be overblown. You need to be careful of surroundings and stick tourist beach areas at night, but unless you're visiting a favela you will be fine.

* Stayed at JW Copa. Better than I expected. Had section on beach as well with security. They do register girls at front desk but it is no big deal.

* From tourist perspective, while the city isn't much, the surrounding scenery of Rio I was pleasantly surprised about. Hiked two days and saw great views of mountains, city, beaches. Hiked to Christ Redeemer on sunny day and it was magnificent. Did tandem hang glide on another sunny day and same. So, Rio is a 3–4-day trip for me from tourist perspective.

Girls -.

* If you like girls with some curves and ethnic flavoring (white / black mix and all between) then RIO is a ++. Who doesn't like that?

* Almost none spoke English, so it is wise to be at least a little conversational. I was and goes long way.

* I found most to be accommodating with some money thrown at them. I was BBFS most of the time.

* 60% from website -- Rioladies, Riossexsite and PA to my hotel. 30% two spas in Copa. Eden and DeliRioOriental. 10% from Bumble. Yes Bumble. This mix was mostly due to my specific needs (BBFS) and fact that I did mainly tourist stuff during day.

* Online. Generally add 5-10 lbs to any pictures they post and you have an idea who shows to your hotel. Online girls are hustlers. Even more so than SE Asia. Most will try to renegotiate price set upfront once they arrive. Simple no usually stops that, but it can ruin the mood. So be upfront before they arrive that you don't want to speak about money anymore. With that said 2nd best fuck came from 19 year old from Riosexiste. I had to pay for BBFS and generally it ran between 600-1000 reais for couple hours, multiple finishes.

* Spas. Both were good IMO. Eden 302 was 19 yr. Old but she wouldn't go unless covered. So BBBJ finished with her. $220 R. I left ate lunch and went back to Eden 402. Beautiful built black girl right out of the favela. She was $220 R house fee + $500 R for BBFS. Went to her next day as well. DeliOriental was again same story. First girl 19 years old no BBFS. $220 R BBBJ. 2nd girl next day was mulatto, tiny english, BBFS $220 R + $400 R. About half of lineups were 7-8's IMO. + to spas you see what you get compared to online.

* Bumble. Don't ask. It was sex but not worth effort when so many options available so easy in Rio.

To sum, was RIO worth visit? Yes but 3-4 days is enough. Take advantage of beautiful tourist things to do and not just punt for an hour and sit in your hotel. Would I go back? Probably not.

Personally, Thailand is still by far #1 for vacation + mongering. No place compares.

[QUOTE=Mrofs;2952949]Long time lurker here, finally with an account. I need to start to thank all contributors on this forum, not just in this thread but also threads related to other cities. It makes it much easier to navigate a new city.

I have been to Rio a few times and I will be back in the beginning of November. I was thinking it could be fun to meetup with someone or a few people and have a few beers and enjoy a few hours together at some good place in Rio Send me a message if you would be interested.[/QUOTE]You have just 1 post impossible to send you a message.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2953238]You have just 1 post impossible to send you a message.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I'm new here even though I'm a long time lurker. Have tried get an account before but I didn't receive the registration email (had to use another provider that wasn't blocked). Now finally with an ISG account and of course also a subscription. I thought that would be enough to get access to pictures and private messages. I think I was able to send you a message.

Can't find anything about the number of posts that's need for the use of the private messages system?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2952422]Gents,

I am thinking of staying in either Ibis Copacabana Posto 2 or Copacabana Mar Hotel and wondering if either of these is guest-friendly. Or are there any other hotels nearby that are guest friendly? I did the RTFF but could not find any definitive information.

Thanks in advance for any intel.[/QUOTE]Ibis Copacabana Posto 2 is guest friendly.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2952414]I haven't been to Rio for 15 years.

What are most people paying for basic 30 min of FS?[/QUOTE]Rates doubled in 15 years in reais. Now they are from 2 reais per minute at the lowest end to 10 reais per minute at mid-range. However, mid-range may not offer 30 minutes but 40 minutes or 1 hour.

So your 30 minutes are likely at the lower end of an incall. I don't know how much most people are paying, but likely your sweet spot should be around 120 reais for 30 minutes.

Exactly. I am looking for firms that are global multinationals created in Brazil that are best in the world, in the field of technology, or for that matter, any fields. At the end of the day, the nation that controls the waves has the reserve currency, and for that the nation needs the best submarines, and that is still the West, and the US.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2953064]Sure, Petrobras, banks and natural resources but they are not considered global tech firm that VB1 was referring to.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2953064]Sure, Petrobras, banks and natural resources but they are not considered global tech firm that VB1 was referring to.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, that's a tall order.

Hey team,

Do we need to pay extra (and how much) in Prives like Copa583 etc. For kissing, GFE etc. Etc. ? And in the termas like 4 x4.

How about Anal. Is this something one has to separately negotiate with the provider and if yes then how much extra is reasonable?

During my last visit some girls offered it for a very low price but things might have changed now, like they have in Medellin Casas. All girls want 50 K COP propina now even for just kissing.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2953444]Hey team,

Do we need to pay extra (and how much) in Prives like Copa583 etc. For kissing, GFE etc. Etc. ? And in the termas like 4 x4.

How about Anal. Is this something one has to separately negotiate with the provider and if yes then how much extra is reasonable?

During my last visit some girls offered it for a very low price but things might have changed now, like they have in Medellin Casas. All girls want 50 K COP propina now even for just kissing.[/QUOTE]Please do not bring those bad a la carte habits to Brazil and ruin it the way guys have ruined everywhere else. Keep an all-inclusive environment all-inclusive.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2953444]Hey team,

Do we need to pay extra (and how much) in Prives like Copa583 etc. For kissing, GFE etc. Etc. ? And in the termas like 4 x4.

How about Anal. Is this something one has to separately negotiate with the provider and if yes then how much extra is reasonable?

During my last visit some girls offered it for a very low price but things might have changed now, like they have in Medellin Casas. All girls want 50 K COP propina now even for just kissing.[/QUOTE]All girls will promise the sky before you session, so it's pointless to ask about GFE. All specific services you need to clear during the interview.

Anal is something they normally either do or don't. You need to ask and wait for the answer. Never offer to pay for it preemptively.

And I've never had girls upsell for kissing in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2953444]Hey team,

Do we need to pay extra (and how much) in Prives like Copa583 etc. For kissing, GFE etc. Etc. ? And in the termas like 4 x4.

How about Anal. Is this something one has to separately negotiate with the provider and if yes then how much extra is reasonable?

During my last visit some girls offered it for a very low price but things might have changed now, like they have in Medellin Casas. All girls want 50 K COP propina now even for just kissing.[/QUOTE]I can only speak for 4 x4, but I've never sessioned with anyone who charged for kissing there. Generally speaking its usually included. Its the rare exception that will charge extra for kissing. Please don't bring tipping for extras to Brazil.

Hey guys, wanted to know if macae area is having any good options for mongering. RTFF can't find any info. Online also most of the ladies seems to be in Rio. Getting a cab and going for Rio only option?

Any input will be appreciated.

Regards.

DT.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2952422]Gents,

I am thinking of staying in either Ibis Copacabana Posto 2 or Copacabana Mar Hotel and wondering if either of these is guest-friendly. Or are there any other hotels nearby that are guest friendly? I did the RTFF but could not find any definitive information.

Thanks in advance for any intel.[/QUOTE]Rio Othon is definitely guest friendly. But unless money is not an issue, I suggest not wasting your money staying there as it's way overpriced for what it is. The rooms are run down; you are pretty much paying for the ocean views. I would rather use that money on some close up Brazilian bunda views.

Ibis CC Posto 2 is guest friendly. Book for 2 adults, when making the reservations to be on the safe side.

[QUOTE=Omigawd;2952422]Gents,

I am thinking of staying in either Ibis Copacabana Posto 2 or Copacabana Mar Hotel and wondering if either of these is guest-friendly. Or are there any other hotels nearby that are guest friendly? I did the RTFF but could not find any definitive information.

Thanks in advance for any intel.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CCRider1008;2953201]This is written for 1st timers trying to decide whether to visit Rio. My perspective is tourist first; monger second.

Rio itself -.

* Crime and personal safety concern I found to be overblown. You need to be careful of surroundings and stick tourist beach areas at night, but unless you're visiting a favela you will be fine.

* Stayed at JW Copa. Better than I expected. Had section on beach as well with security. They do register girls at front desk but it is no big deal.

* From tourist perspective, while the city isn't much, the surrounding scenery of Rio I was pleasantly surprised about. Hiked two days and saw great views of mountains, city, beaches. Hiked to Christ Redeemer on sunny day and it was magnificent. Did tandem hang glide on another sunny day and same. So, Rio is a 34-day trip for me from tourist perspective.

Girls -.

* If you like girls with some curves and ethnic flavoring (white / black mix and all between) then RIO is a ++. Who doesn't like that?.[/QUOTE]That is a really nice concise report!

Very handy to jog up my memory since I just go to Rio after a while and this helps jog my memory and surely brings me up to pace.

Thankful!

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2953201]This is written for 1st timers trying to decide whether to visit Rio. My perspective is tourist first; monger second.

Rio itself -.

* Crime and personal safety concern I found to be overblown. You need to be careful of surroundings and stick tourist beach areas at night, but unless you're visiting a favela you will be fine.

* Stayed at JW Copa. Better than I expected. Had section on beach as well with security. They do register girls at front desk but it is no big deal.

* From tourist perspective, while the city isn't much, the surrounding scenery of Rio I was pleasantly surprised about. Hiked two days and saw great views of mountains, city, beaches. Hiked to Christ Redeemer on sunny day and it was magnificent. Did tandem hang glide on another sunny day and same. So, Rio is a 34-day trip for me from tourist perspective.

Girls -.

* If you like girls with some curves and ethnic flavoring (white / black mix and all between) then RIO is a ++. Who doesn't like that?.[/QUOTE]This was great I really needed this? Just starting to plan vacation, Rio in on the list. DR also. I would love to do Thailand but need more vacation time for that. Already hit Bogota and Panama this year. If you have suggestions on area and restaurants that would be great also. And how is seeking arrangements there. I know usually bumble is crap in most places. But I have had good luck with seeking.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2953499]Please do not bring those bad a la carte habits to Brazil and ruin it the way guys have ruined everywhere else. Keep an all-inclusive environment all-inclusive.[/QUOTE]Damn right!! And please don't being the American mindset of "tipping" these girls after she gives you a good session! She is supposed to give a good session, you are paying her! (If you want to tip, go back and session with her a 2nd time!

[QUOTE=MadNasty;2953729]This was great I really needed this? Just starting to plan vacation, Rio in on the list. DR also. I would love to do Thailand but need more vacation time for that. Already hit Bogota and Panama this year. If you have suggestions on area and restaurants that would be great also. And how is seeking arrangements there. I know usually bumble is crap in most places. But I have had good luck with seeking.[/QUOTE]Def generally agree w CC. But safety can be a little dicey at night. If you are walking down Atlantic (main copa beach street) late night then stay on the beach side of the road near the restaurants. On the other side there can be people you would rather not meetup with. We had two of our phones pickpocketed by prostitutes that came up and engaged us. We fended them off quick and only found out later our phones were gone.

Also def do Sugarloaf. It's pretty amazing. There is a restaurant at the top that has a great view.

U can def score hotties on Seeking there. Got a bit lucky but found a gem last time and have flown her a couple places since then. Total sweetheart and stunning.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2953201]This is written for 1st timers trying to decide whether to visit Rio. My perspective is tourist first; monger second.

To sum, was RIO worth visit? Yes but 3-4 days is enough. Take advantage of beautiful tourist things to do and not just punt for an hour and sit in your hotel. Would I go back? Probably not.

Personally, Thailand is still by far #1 for vacation + mongering. No place compares.[/QUOTE]I've spent a lot of time in both Rio and Thailand. It really depends on what one is looking for in a travel destination. It also depends on your affinity for Brazilian women versus Asian women.

I'm mostly a beach and chillin' guy. You sound like you like to be more active. When I'm not at the beach in Rio, I can explore Centro (daytime only) or go drinking and dancing in Lapa. Senhor Vagabundo will tell you to check out Barra. I do like the beaches in Thailand, but there is something about being in a big city and walking to the beach. And I like the authentic Thai food very much.

It used to be easier to build a rapport with a Brasileira and have her hang with you / show you around Rio. That's probably a true statement for Thailand, but it's relatively easier and Thai girls usually know some rudimentary English. It's still not impossible to hire a sex pal / guide in either destination.

Rio and Thailand are just so different.

[QUOTE=MadNasty;2953729]This was great I really needed this? Just starting to plan vacation, Rio in on the list. DR also. I would love to do Thailand but need more vacation time for that. Already hit Bogota and Panama this year. If you have suggestions on area and restaurants that would be great also. And how is seeking arrangements there. I know usually bumble is crap in most places. But I have had good luck with seeking.[/QUOTE]Churrascaria palace was pretty good. There are restaurants up and down Copacabana beach road. Most average. Couple decent. Depending on where you stay I'd ask hotel for recommendations. Steakhouses are the place to go. My city tour guide took us to one for lunch in Neiborhood close to Serralon stairs and it was excellent. I did breakfast at JW as it was free for me.

Did not go SA route. Never had luck on that. Depends what you want. If just sex and covered mostly than I'd hit the spas. Best bang buck. I waited until last two days to hit those and was a mistake. I found a beautiful black girl who was willing to do BBFS and GFE and was a lot of fun. She offered me her whatsapp. If I met her day 1 I probably would have fucked her most of the time. I'd just say again the online girls are hustlers, so be specific about what you want before hand (hours, GFE, BB etc) , tell them no more money talk, and maybe get a picture through whatsapp. Once you set guidelines they're pretty fun girls. All perfectly fine with GFE, teasing, foreplay, fun. Except one ***** from rioladies. Typical money grubbing working girl. I fucked her BB anyway instead of sending her on her way (did that promptly after just to get rid of her. Haha).

[QUOTE=DallasTinku;2953703]Hey guys, wanted to know if macae area is having any good options for mongering. RTFF can't find any info. Online also most of the ladies seems to be in Rio. Getting a cab and going for Rio only option?

Any input will be appreciated.

Regards.

DT.[/QUOTE]Not the safest city in RJ. Try [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/macae[/URL].

There is some action in Arraial do Cabo wgich is closer.

[QUOTE=DallasTinku;2953703]Hey guys, wanted to know if macae area is having any good options for mongering. RTFF can't find any info. Online also most of the ladies seems to be in Rio. Getting a cab and going for Rio only option?

Any input will be appreciated.

Regards.

DT.[/QUOTE]Macae is not a mongering city perse. Its a nice beach town with a decent nightlife but its not for mongering. If you have to go for business (Oil companies). You might try asking the local men if there is a prive in the area.

Cpf pm.

Vagabundo fucked for 41 minutes for 230 reais for a cpf pm (cost per fuck per minute) of 5. 6 r or 1 usd.

230/41.

You thought cpf stood for fiscal number or some BS and maybe pm stood for militar policia.

Wrong, sports fans.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2953852]Macae is not a mongering city perse. Its a nice beach town with a decent nightlife but its not for mongering. If you have to go for business (Oil companies). You might try asking the local men if there is a prive in the area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input figured as much. Guess will have to travel a bit to find a good area for mongering.

Regards.

DT.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2953499]Please do not bring those bad a la carte habits to Brazil and ruin it the way guys have ruined everywhere else. Keep an all-inclusive environment all-inclusive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2953536]All girls will promise the sky before you session, so it's pointless to ask about GFE. All specific services you need to clear during the interview.

Anal is something they normally either do or don't. You need to ask and wait for the answer. Never offer to pay for it preemptively.

And I've never had girls upsell for kissing in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Thank you to both of you.

I definitely do not want to spoil the market for others.

So I guess it is all inclusive package, just ask the girl if she will do anal (no extra charge) and tip only if she really went out of her way in pleasing. Correcto?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2953783]Damn right!! And please don't being the American mindset of "tipping" these girls after she gives you a good session! She is supposed to give a good session, you are paying her! (If you want to tip, go back and session with her a 2nd time![/QUOTE]Session with her a 2nd time as a tip is a brilliant idea. LOL.

I know 583 is a must visit in Copa area, 401 and suite 302. I guess there is a smaller one on 2nd floor as well.

What other good prives are out there in Copacabana area that you would recommend to check out at least once?

I have not visited centro but would like to give it a try on Sat and Monday. Is weekday noon supposed to be the best time to visit centro prives? And can you please recommend some of the best prives in centro?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

This is one helluva report. Dude really spent lot of time in giving back to forum.

Of the centro prives listed in this report, which ones are still the best bang for the buck?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1143546][red][U][b]Update on Privs, Casas de Massagem and Termas in Centro, pricerange R$ 20-95. [/b][/u][/red]

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Today is exactly one year since my last update of my list of cheap Privs and Centro Casas in Rio. Here is the new update. As always some of the old casas are gone and some new ones have been added to the list. No priv, casa or termas costing more than R$ 95 are on the list.

All of the info and ratings in the list are based on my experiences, in March 2011. Your experience of these casas might be totally different. In these casas the number of girls and the standard can change very quickly. Some casas might also close or move within a short period of time.

This list is meant to be a guide to help you to explore the Centro casas. Its far from complete. I have only listed the casas that I have personally visited. There are many more casas to be explored. This forum is for exchange of information, so I expect you to report about new casas that youll discover.

I've also made a new updated Centro Map,attached.

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[b]Ratings[/b]:

I have rated using A, B and C. A being over average, B being average and C under average.

Cabin:
A= Clean cabin, big bed, new sheets, A/C and shower possibility.
B= Decent cabin, small bed, A/C or ventilador.
C= Fast-sex-cabin, simple, dirty, smelly and noisy. No showers.

Service:
A= Receives visitors in a very nice and discreet way, girls presenting themselves in pleasant way, girls doing their best in the sex-act.
B= Receives you fairly well. Girls giving a good service.
C= Girls lined up. Girls might be ignorant or having a bad attitude. Take a pick, fuck and leave.

Standard (on the girls):
A= Better than average, sometimes some stunners.
B= Average standard.
C= Low end. Majority ugly with few exceptions.

Number:
The number of girls available. This number depends on the day of the week and the time you go there.

WV (Worth a Visit):
A= Definitely worth a visit. A very good chance of finding a nice girl.
B= Worth a visit if you have plenty of time. Don't have to high expectations. Might find something youll like.
C= Not worth a visit. Very small chances of finding a nice girl.

Note:
Remarks about the casa. Many of the casas have sites. I have only bothered to mention the sites of the casas that I have found most interesting.

Rec:
My personal girl-recommendations.

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[b]Casas de Massagem and Termas, R$ 15-85. [/b]

1. Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Sala 3320: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=10, WV=A
R$ 95/40 min, R$ 115/60 min
- Sala 2622: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=7, WV=A
R$ 85/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Sala 2114: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=7, WV=B
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Sala 1839: Cabin=A, Service=B, Standard=A, Number=6, WV=B
R$ 60/30 min, R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Sala 1619: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
- Sala 613: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=3, WV=B
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min

2. Avenida Rio Branco 185:
- Sala 2114: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
R$ 80/40 min, R$ 100/60 min
Note: Nice girls. Very busy place. Expect waiting time for the cabins.
[url]www.belprazer.com[/url]
- Sala 729: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/40 min, R$ 90/60 min
- Sala 725: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 80/60 min

3. Avenida Rio Branco 181:
- Sala 801: Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=6, WV=A
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/40 min, R$ 90/60 min
Note: Excellent place, with GFE.
[url]www.novamassagem.com[/url]
Rec: Juliana (18 y, supercute, petite, incredible tits), Rafaela (23 y, dark morena, incredible vagina-muscles), Samara (20 y, nic big tits), Livia (23 y, cute, gives great BJ)
- Sala 105: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=3, WV=C
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/40 min, R$ 90/60 min

4. Rua Senador Dantas 117:
- Sala 1729: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=C, Number=2, WV=C
R$ 70/60 min, massage+HJ

5. Av 13 de Maio 47:
- Sala 513: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min, R$ 60/60 min

6. Rua Almirante Barroso 6:
- Sala 305: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=2, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min

7. Rua da Carioca 59: 3 floors, 5 casas.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard= B-C, Number=30, WV=B
R$ 25/20 min, R$ 35/30 min

8. Rua Uruguaiana 24: 4 floors.
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=B, Number=30, WV=B
R$ 20/15 min, R$ 25/20 min, R$ 35/30 min
Note: Cabins close to the bar, loud music is disturbing.

9. Rua Uruguaiana 145:
Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 27/20 min, R$ 37/30 min, R$ 47/40 min

10. Rua do Ouvidor 130:
- Sala 911: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
- Sala 707: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=7, WV=B
R$ 20/1 pop no timelimit
Note: [url]www.destack.com.br/hollywood.htm[/url]
Rec: Kelly (great ass)

11. Rua do Rosrio 135:
- Third floor: Cabin=A, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=B
R$ 95/40 min, R$ 120/60 min

12. Rua Buenos Aires 85: 6 floors.
Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B-C, Number=60, WV=B
R$ 1/min, R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min
Note: Always some nice girls. Enjoy the stairs!
Rec: Suzy (20 y, very cute), Gigi (25 y, lovely big tits)

13. Praa Olavo Bilac 13:
- Sala 513: Cabin=B, Service=A, Standard=B, Number=15, WV=B
R$ 22/15 min, R$ 27/20 min, R$ 40/30 min, R$ 50/40 min
Rec: Tiara (19 y, slim mulatta)

14. Praa Olavo Bilac 15:
- Sala 513: Cabin=C, Service=B, Standard= C, Number=8, WV=C
R$ 22/15 min, R$ 32/20 min, R$ 42/30 min

15. Avenida Presidente Vargas 590:
- Sala 1005: Cabin=B, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=2, WV=C
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 70/60 min
- Sala 817: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 70/30 min, R$ 90/60 min

16. Avenida Presidente Vargas 482:
- Sala 1514: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=5, WV=B
R$ 70/45 min, massage+HJ. Must make a booking before visit.
- Sala 914: Cabin=B, Service=B, Standard=B, Number=4, WV=B
R$ 80/60 min, massage+HJ. BJ costs R$ 20 extra. Penetration cost another R$ 40.

17. Rua Conceicao 116: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=12, WV=C
R$ 30/20 min, R$ 40/30 min, R$ 50/40 min

18. Rua do Acre 120: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=4, WV=C
R$ 20/20 min, R$ 30/30 min

19. Rua Leandro Martins 3: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=5, WV=C
R$ 22/20 min, R$ 32/30 min, R$ 42/40 min

20. Rua Leandro Martins 5: Cabin=C, Service=C, Standard=C, Number=6, WV=C
R$ 27/20 min, R$ 40/30 min, R$ 50/40 min

21. Praca Mau, Florida: Stripclub with cabins. Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=15, WV=A
Entrada=R$ 10, R$ 80/30 min

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[b]Casas from the my list from last year. 2010, that have closed[/b] (or at least appeared closed when I visited) :

# Avenida Rio Branco 156, Edificio Central:
- Sala 2735
- Sala 1228
# Avenida Rio Branco 181:
- Sala 1006
- Sala 210
# Rua Carioca 40
# Travessa do Ouvidor 37

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[b]TIJUCA[/b]:

Tijuca is not in Centro but it still deserves to be mentioned here.
To get there just take the metro to the station Saens Pea. The privs below are all within 5 minutes walk from the metro station.

# Tigresas Tijucanas
Rua General Roca 340, sala 114 (entrance inside a parking garage)
Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 60/40 min, R$ 80/60 min
Note: Excellent place, with GFE.
[url]www.tigresastijucanas.com[/url]
Rec: Rafaela (20 y, dark morena, supercute, petite, very hot), Natasha (22 y, fantastic tits, thick vagina), Marcele (19 y, cute mulatta w nice big tits)

# Anne Massagens
Rua General Roca 263
Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A-B, Number=8, WV=A
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 60/40 min, R$ 80/60 min
Note: [url]www.annemassagens.com.br[/url]

# Mix Massagem
Rua General Conde de Bonfim 352, sala 402
Cabin=A, Service=A, Standard=A, Number=9, WV=A
R$ 50/30 min, R$ 60/40 min, R$ 80/60 min
Note: [url]www.mixmassagem.com[/url]
Rec: Pamela (23 y, nice big tits)

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[b]VM[/b]:

* Vila Mimosa: 72 casas.
Cabin=B-C, Service=(B-)C (some B), Standard=(A-)C, Number=roughly 1500, counting all shifts and weekendworkers. WV=A
Gems to be found.
R$ 27-35/30 min.
Hotel Canrio (motel)=R$ 30/4 hs. Girl will charge you R$ 60-80/1-2 hs at Canrio.

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[b]My personal choices[/b]:

# When I want a quick and very cheap session:
Metro to Carioca. First I pass by Rua Carioca 59, then I continue to Rua Uruguaiana 24 and finally to Rua Buenos Aires 85. This casa-tour takes about 20 minutes. Then I make my choice where to session. Usually I end up in BA 85.

# When I want to have a bit more costly quality-sex with GFE in a nice room:
Metro to Carioca. I check out the casas in Av Rio Branco 156, 181 and 185.
Alternatively I head to Tijuca.

# When I want to dig for gems in the trash:
I go to VM. VM is the place where you can hit the jackpot. Some of the most beautiful GPs Ive ever met have been working at VM. The percentage of beautiful girls in VM is very low. Its a sport finding a gem at VM. It takes experience, patience, skill and a portion of good luck.
Go there around 5-6 PM. Do a search in all of the alleys. Stick your head inside ALL of the casas. If you find nothing interesting then position yourself in one of the bars at the entrance to the U-alley, and wait for the girls arriving to work. When you finally se Miss Perfect arriving you jump on her like a cobra. Follow her to her casa and be her first customer that day.

The higher the quality, the higher the price? IMO thats bullsh*t and a very false statement. High quality can be had for a very cheap price.

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[b]This years nomination[/b]:

This year I want to give the Golden Dick nomination to two privs:

Nova Massagem (Avenida Rio Branco 181, sala 801)
and
Tigresas Tijucanas (Rua General Roca 340, sala 114)

I specially want to thank Juliana, Rafaela, Samara, Livia, Rafaela, Natasha and Marcele for giving me such excellent service and pleasure.

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[b]My personal advice[/b]:

I prefer to visit the centro casas just before noon, when the girls have just arrived. That way I have the opportunity of being the first client of the day. If you go there at lunch time the good casas might be crowded and the best girls all occupied.

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[b]Maps[/b]:

As I earlier posted various maps in this forum it can be a bit confusing which map that's the latest and most updated one. Because of this I also attach the most updated Vila Mimosa and Copacabana maps in this report. This way you'll find all my maps in one place.

Note: The only new map is the Sperto, Centro Map.

Regarding the updated Centro map. Because of the size limit for posting pictures/JPG is 640x480 I couldn't do the map in JPG-format. I did it in PDF-format. Unfortunately the size limit for posting PDF is 390,6 kb. Because of this the map is a little bit blurry.

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[b]Attached[/b]:

- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, JPG
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Detailed Alleys, MAP, JPG
- Sperto, Centro, Map, Updated March 2011, PDF
- Sperto, Vila Mimosa, Directions, Map, PDF
- Sperto, Copacabana, Map, PDF

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I hope the list will be helpful in your mongering in Centro of Rio. Dont forget to report about new casas!

Cheers
Sperto
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P.S THE CENTRO MAP IS THE FIRST ATTACHED PDF-FILE (that means the third of the five attachments)![/QUOTE]

Tekohas is a Brazilian porn star (retired now I believe) who was beautiful and known for energetic gangbangs in Germany. Out of curiosity-do alot of Brazilian women look like her ie dark skin but having European type hair? I find this particularly attractive. In the spas what's the mix of black Brazilians, white etc?

Also why does it appear to be more difficult to find the location of spas then say Bangkok or Germany? I have read the forum and I have not found a comprehensive list of where some of them are. In other countries the forums have addresses and maps. I am going to be with the GF but she is going to allow me to play but quickly so to speak (I. E. Fuck the girl and get back to the hotel) so the spas are my best option. I plan on staying in Copa or Leblon.

One thing I did years ago in Thailand was I had a girl I liked and for a week she became my personal assistant / fuck toy. I paid her $1000 for it and it was the best time I ever had. She cooked, cleaned, showed me around, fucked me anyway I wanted and even brought another girl. Has anyone done this in Rio and if so how did you find the girl? I would like to have a girl do this for my GF and I for the time we are going to be there.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2953960]Tekohas is a Brazilian porn star (retired now I believe) who was beautiful and known for energetic gangbangs in Germany. Out of curiosity-do alot of Brazilian women look like her ie dark skin but having European type hair? I find this particularly attractive. In the spas what's the mix of black Brazilians, white etc?

Also why does it appear to be more difficult to find the location of spas then say Bangkok or Germany? I have read the forum and I have not found a comprehensive list of where some of them are. In other countries the forums have addresses and maps. I am going to be with the GF but she is going to allow me to play but quickly so to speak (I. E. Fuck the girl and get back to the hotel) so the spas are my best option. I plan on staying in Copa or Leblon.

One thing I did years ago in Thailand was I had a girl I liked and for a week she became my personal assistant / fuck toy. I paid her $1000 for it and it was the best time I ever had. She cooked, cleaned, showed me around, fucked me anyway I wanted and even brought another girl. Has anyone done this in Rio and if so how did you find the girl? I would like to have a girl do this for my GF and I for the time we are going to be there.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]Yes zillions of brasileiras look like her only better. Some are black mixes but prob don't identify as such. They are just classic Brasilian looking girls. The term Morena is used to describe a brunette w café au lait skin.

If you stay in Copa go to Monte Carlo. Nice small place (10-12 girls) with friendly staff and solid GFE. They open at 3 and that's a great time to grab from a full lineup. Beware that when you enter they will all line up implying you have to pick. You can of course and just chat her up. No rush. But you can also wave them off and pick at your leisure.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2954010]Yes zillions of brasileiras look like her only better. Some are black mixes but prob don't identify as such. They are just classic Brasilian looking girls. The term Morena is used to describe a brunette w caf au lait skin.

If you stay in Copa go to Monte Carlo. Nice small place (10-12 girls) with friendly staff and solid GFE. They open at 3 and that's a great time to grab from a full lineup. Beware that when you enter they will all line up implying you have to pick. You can of course and just chat her up. No rush. But you can also wave them off and pick at your leisure.[/QUOTE]Steve can you give me the address to Monte Carlo (you can PM me). I Googled it and it doesn't come up. When I attempt to pull it up it looks like a hotel called Oceana.

Its good to hear alot of the ladies look like her. I hope to find one.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2954011]Steve can you give me the address to Monte Carlo (you can PM me). I Googled it and it doesn't come up. When I attempt to pull it up it looks like a hotel called Oceana.

Its good to hear alot of the ladies look like her. I hope to find one.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]That's the place! Technically it is Termas Monte Carlo and it's adjacent to hotel Oceana. I had to ask. It's a door right next door. Don't be shy asking. Prostitution is 100% legal and not weird in Brasil. 😋.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2953960]One thing I did years ago in Thailand was I had a girl I liked and for a week she became my personal assistant / fuck toy. I paid her $1000 for it and it was the best time I ever had. She cooked, cleaned, showed me around, fucked me anyway I wanted and even brought another girl. Has anyone done this in Rio and if so how did you find the girl? I would like to have a girl do this for my GF and I for the time we are going to be there.[/QUOTE]Sure anything's possible for a price. Cooking and cleaning probably depends on the girl. I don't think when you are sitting with a hot working girl you're going to ask her if she cooks and cleans. That's not a criticism. Just the reality.

I've hung out with a couple Brasileiras for several days that were cool and sexy. With one, I bought food and drink at the store. She made a few small things. Mostly did the beach, tourist sites and restaurants with them. Took one to a civilian nightclub in Barra. Some of the girls like to break the monotony of hustling all the time.

It's obvious good sex is important and as important some chemistry when you're just hanging out.

It's easier to do this with an independent that works at one of the boates at Copa. Time can be a crunch with a termas or prive girls who have to report to work. Termas 4 x4 girls have the weekend off. You know escort girls are used to measuring their time in hours. Unfortunately over the years, that mindset has slipped into the head of most girls. As some members had said, tudo noite (all night) really just becomes two or three hours.

If you get a chill girl, who spends the night and stays for breakfast, you can go from there.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2953960]One thing I did years ago in Thailand was I had a girl I liked and for a week she became my personal assistant / fuck toy. I paid her $1000 for it and it was the best time I ever had. She cooked, cleaned, showed me around, fucked me anyway I wanted and even brought another girl. Has anyone done this in Rio and if so how did you find the girl? [/QUOTE]You should have been around in the Help days. Chicks like this were a dime a dozen and would not have been more than $50/ day. The chick in Thailand made out like a bandit. Minimum wage there is only $10/ day and a rice farmer (which 99% of those chicks are) makes about $1200/ year.

[QUOTE=Plan77;2953931]This is one helluva report. Dude really spent lot of time in giving back to forum.

Of the centro prives listed in this report, which ones are still the best bang for the buck?[/QUOTE]Thanks, that report is 13 years old. I used to give one report like that every year. I still do my list every year. However I stopped posting my lists, too many lazy lurkers and very few giving anything back.

More or less half of the addresses on this list are still in business.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2953960]I have read the forum and I have not found a comprehensive list of where some of them are. In other countries the forums have addresses and maps.[/QUOTE]Read one post below yours. Look at that list. Compare it with Gpguia, Gparena and Forumx. You have to do your own homework.

Centro Prive CPF PM.

Vagabundo hit Cherry Torn, who likes to watch Brazilian porn like Elisa Sanches and listen to Brazilian music like Anitta and Felipe Ret while fucking. The specific genre of porn is actually so hard it would be a little inappropriate to mention it here, but if she likes it, and fucks bare to it, then Vagabundo is fine. We actually fucked in the positon of her laying down on her stomach and me laying on her back with my dick in her pussy with a towel on her back to lay on. Anitta is a bit disconcerting to me. All the background noise and bullshit gets a little much, so that could be improved. Another BBFS fave, callsign Midori, is working at 583 in Copa, and I need to go put her back in the rotation. I have become a regular face in these centro prives. I will be looking forward to meeting some new friends as they come into town to visit. PM me, Senor Nouce to be added to our local whatsapp group, which is approaching 150 which is the optimal number for such a group and where I will consider capping it, or managing it to keep it at about 150, the size of a hunter gatherer unit like a Swiss Marine Corps Rifle Company, semper gumby.

CPF pm 4. 89 230 r paid for 47 minute BBFS fuck to Brazilian porn like Elisa Sanches and Brazilian music*like*Felipe*ret.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2954025]That's the place! Technically it is Termas Monte Carlo and it's adjacent to hotel Oceana. I had to ask. It's a door right next door. Don't be shy asking. Prostitution is 100% legal and not weird in Brasil. 😋.[/QUOTE]Ok great! I would have hated to walk in a hotel and ask where are the hos LOL.

Are there any other places near there that I could check out as well?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2954038]You should have been around in the Help days. Chicks like this were a dime a dozen and would not have been more than $50/ day. The chick in Thailand made out like a bandit. Minimum wage there is only $10/ day and a rice farmer (which 99% of those chicks are) makes about $1200/ year.[/QUOTE]Mr E trust me when I find a natural see cup Thai girl from Issan that sucks and fucks anyway I wanted for six days and was a maid and a tour guide and had a genuine smile each day. 1 K was worth it. I make good money so what the hell I thought.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2954079]Thanks, that report is 13 years old. I used to give one report like that every year. I still do my list every year. However I stopped posting my lists, too many lazy lurkers and very few giving anything back.

More or less half of the addresses on this list are still in business.

Read one post below yours. Look at that list. Compare it with Gpguia, Gparena and Forumx. You have to do your own homework.[/QUOTE]The issue Sperto for me and others is that we are just visiting Rio for a short time because we are on vacation. Many of us are with others and we can just go to every place on a list that is years old. We just don't have the time for it. And the list you are referencing is over a decade old.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2954029]As some members had said, [b]tudo noite (all night)[/b][/QUOTE]You mean "a noite inteira".

[QUOTE=Showdown;2954205]The issue Sperto for me and others is that we are just visiting Rio for a short time because we are on vacation. Many of us are with others and we can just go to every place on a list that is years old. We just don't have the time for it. And the list you are referencing is over a decade old.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]If you only stay for a short time you shouldn't need a "comprehensive list". You won't find a Tripadvisor list of 10 must visit brothels. RTFF or even better study the local forums. It's not that hard to take some notes of the most popular privés.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2954079]Thanks, that report is 13 years old. I used to give one report like that every year. I still do my list every year. However I stopped posting my lists, too many lazy lurkers and very few giving anything back.

More or less half of the addresses on this list are still in business.

Read one post below yours. Look at that list. Compare it with Gpguia, Gparena and Forumx. You have to do your own homework.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report sir!

Although old, it's still relevant as I found at least 3 Centro Casas from your report that I did not know about.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2954275]If you only stay for a short time you shouldn't need a "comprehensive list". You won't find a Tripadvisor list of 10 must visit brothels. RTFF or even better study the local forums. It's not that hard to take some notes of the most popular privs.[/QUOTE]For the love of God just giving an answer is better than giving someone a hard time for asking for a few places to visit. I didn't ask for a Tripadvisor nor did I expect that. Rio is not straightforward like Germany, Thailand, Bogota and Medellin. I've received numerous PMs (thank you members) of places to visit while you seem to be the sole person being flippant.



Showdown.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2954029]Sure anything's possible for a price. Cooking and cleaning probably depends on the girl. I don't think when you are sitting with a hot working girl you're going to ask her if she cooks and cleans. That's not a criticism. Just the reality.

I've hung out with a couple Brasileiras for several days that were cool and sexy. With one, I bought food and drink at the store. She made a few small things. Mostly did the beach, tourist sites and restaurants with them. Took one to a civilian nightclub in Barra. Some of the girls like to break the monotony of hustling all the time.

It's obvious good sex is important and as important some chemistry when you're just hanging out.

It's easier to do this with an independent that works at one of the boates at Copa. Time can be a crunch with a termas or prive girls who have to report to work. Termas 4 x4 girls have the weekend off. You know escort girls are used to measuring their time in hours. Unfortunately over the years, that mindset has slipped into the head of most girls. As some members had said, tudo noite (all night) really just becomes two or three hours.

If you get a chill girl, who spends the night and stays for breakfast, you can go from there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advise. I know its easier said than done to find a girl to do what I had in Thailand but to your point chemistry is important. I had chemistry with the Thai girl from the jump so it made all the rest easier. I've been studying Portuguese so that may help. My expectations arent high to repeat when I had in Thailand but I will try. I've also thought about using Bumble to find this potentially as I know someone that had success with P4 P and more using this app.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2954225]You mean "a noite inteira".[/QUOTE]Or maybe even "uma noite toda" 🤪

Yes, that report needs and update. Anyone interested please post the data here, or contact me. But those reports were classic. I recall some great duplas due to senor sperto down at tigressas.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2954079]Thanks, that report is 13 years old. I used to give one report like that every year. I still do my list every year. However I stopped posting my lists, too many lazy lurkers and very few giving anything back.

More or less half of the addresses on this list are still in business.

Read one post below yours. Look at that list. Compare it with Gpguia, Gparena and Forumx. You have to do your own homework.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2954631]Yes, that report needs and update. Anyone interested please post the data here, or contact me. But those reports were classic. I recall some great duplas due to senor sperto down at tigressas.[/QUOTE]There has got to be a Brazilian website like ISG that list out where to go and reports on the interactions. I'll see if I can find one because if I do it will make it easier to translate it and post the locations.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2954773]There has got to be a Brazilian website like ISG that list out where to go and reports on the interactions. I'll see if I can find one because if I do it will make it easier to translate it and post the locations.
Showdown.[/QUOTE]That was just what "the sole person being flippant" tried to tell you. .

[QUOTE=Sperto;2954079]Compare it with Gpguia, Gparena and Forumx.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Showdown;2954773]There has got to be a Brazilian website like ISG that list out where to go and reports on the interactions. I'll see if I can find one because if I do it will make it easier to translate it and post the locations.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]This site appears to be up to date and similar to ISG for Brazil. I just use Google translate to translate the website to English.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=317&sid=934f709097a1f953bc62cac5f8e7c493[/URL]

This one also:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro

[QUOTE=Showdown;2954840]This site appears to be up to date and similar to ISG for Brazil. I just use Google translate to translate the website to English.

[URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=317&sid=934f709097a1f953bc62cac5f8e7c493[/URL]

This one also:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro[/QUOTE]Gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] is mostly a website for Sao Psulo mongering. For Rio, [URL]gparena.net[/URL] is more useful as there are many more and much more current posts than on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL].

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2954857]Gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] is mostly a website for Sao Psulo mongering. For Rio, [URL]gparena.net[/URL] is more useful as there are many more and much more current posts than on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL].[/QUOTE]True. Another thing newbies must understand is that photoacompanhantes is just an advertisement site, which has nothing to do with gparena.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2954857]Gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] is mostly a website for Sao Psulo mongering. For Rio, [URL]gparena.net[/URL] is more useful as there are many more and much more current posts than on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL].[/QUOTE]Meant Sao Paulo.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2954926]Meant Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Jimmy Boy thanks for the correction regarding the site. For a non Portuguese reader the sites are a bit hard to understand even with Google translate. It would be nice if there was a site that was a little more straightforward to read like Rubmaps that had the address and a short review. I'd ideally like to have a day where I visited one after the other (I did this in Costa Rica years ago and enjoyed it) just to see more women even if for the massage only. I'll share with Rio newbies like myself what I learn as I navigate the site JimmyBoy mentioned and I will make a list of places with addresses.

I found this site with a list of brothels but I am not sure of its accuracy: https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro/Brothels


Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2955027]Jimmy Boy thanks for the correction regarding the site. For a non Portuguese reader the sites are a bit hard to understand even with Google translate.[/QUOTE]You get used to the Portuguese to English translations with more use. You also start to understand Brazilian sex slang.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2955027]Jimmy Boy thanks for the correction regarding the site. For a non Portuguese reader the sites are a bit hard to understand even with Google translate. It would be nice if there was a site that was a little more straightforward to read like Rubmaps that had the address and a short review. I'd ideally like to have a day where I visited one after the other (I did this in Costa Rica years ago and enjoyed it) just to see more women even if for the massage only. I'll share with Rio newbies like myself what I learn as I navigate the site JimmyBoy mentioned and I will make a list of places with addresses.

I found this site with a list of brothels but I am not sure of its accuracy: https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro/Brothels


Showdown.[/QUOTE]I think you're looking for something like WorldTravel69's maps.

Pernoite 400 mais uber Cherry Torn.

I had a prive girl over. In terms of Cost per Fuck per minute, it was actually less than in the centro prive, but it was better because she was over for 12 hours, and we had a great time watching our choice of porn (see a recent diary of a CEO podcast about porn as a positive when couples choose and watch it together). The actual fuck was only 20 minutes, half or a third of my actual fucking in centro prives. But we fucked twice at night, then she had menstruation in the morning. We had salmon from casuarina. Watched some kick boxing movie on Amazon prime. So that was 50 more for uber and another 300 for food.

When you're correcting misspellings of paulo from psulo you just need to get back to Brazil, men.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2955027]Jimmy Boy thanks for the correction regarding the site. For a non Portuguese reader the sites are a bit hard to understand even with Google translate. It would be nice if there was a site that was a little more straightforward to read like Rubmaps that had the address and a short review. I'd ideally like to have a day where I visited one after the other (I did this in Costa Rica years ago and enjoyed it) just to see more women even if for the massage only. I'll share with Rio newbies like myself what I learn as I navigate the site JimmyBoy mentioned and I will make a list of places with addresses.

I found this site with a list of brothels but I am not sure of its accuracy: https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Rio_de_Janeiro/Brothels


Showdown.[/QUOTE]

Went there last night just before midnight. 10 Real entrance fee. Dead. 8-9 women, Villa Mimosa quality. 5-6 customers. Stayed two minutes, paid the fee, and walled out. Not recommended.

Oddly enough I have taken advantage of places like this(I looked it up on Google maps and attached below). They tend to be cheap and the women will do anything you ask. I never want penetration in these places as you would be a fool to think health should not be a concern here. I tend to get them to do anything nasty involving C*m and a BJ. Jerk off on their face and ask them to eat it etc, get photos and videos etc. Blow and go. Reminds me of the cheap places in Chinatown in Bangkok where I used to do this for 500 baht.

Out of curiosity-are there any places that are open in the AM? In Bangkok you could go to a BJ bar(I dont remember the name) near Asok subway stop that opened at 930.

Showdown

[QUOTE=Showdown;2956669]Oddly enough I have taken advantage of places like this(I looked it up on Google maps and attached below). They tend to be cheap and the women will do anything you ask. I never want penetration in these places as you would be a fool to think health should not be a concern here. I tend to get them to do anything nasty involving C*m and a BJ. Jerk off on their face and ask them to eat it etc, get photos and videos etc. Blow and go. Reminds me of the cheap places in Chinatown in Bangkok where I used to do this for 500 baht.

Out of curiosity-are there any places that are open in the AM? In Bangkok you could go to a BJ bar(I dont remember the name) near Asok subway stop that opened at 930.

Showdown[/QUOTE]According to [URL]gparena.net[/URL], 30 minutes was Real 170 for 30 in the summer and according to gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL], it was 200 Real for 40 minutes, also in the summer. They have probably gone up a bit since then. 60 minutes is probably at least 270, maybe 300, Real.

All of the Centro prives should be open by 11 AM. Check [URL]gparena.net[/URL] and gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] for names and locations.

Since Sunday night is dead in Centro, decided to kill some time by going to Villa MImosa. Got there about 10:30 PM. Deadest I have ever seen it. 8 or so bars closed, some apparently permanently, some bars with no women and / or customers. Counted about 35 women in the horseshoe and another 15 or so in the bars across the street, all of the quality you would expect there, and even fewer customers. Didn't know if it was because it was a Sunday night or it is dying. Mosaico was also dead: only saw 5 girls and fewer customers but it was early for Mosaico.

Tonight went to check out some of the cheaper bars in Centro around 8:30 PM. Started with 119 Rua Alfandega: 3 girls, all chunky, left. Went to 214 Rua Uruguaiana: 1 girl, left. Figured the other clubs would be just as dead so decided to see if Villa Mimosa was any better. It wasn't. Same as Sunday night, maybe 5 more girls in the horseshoe but almost no girls across the street. Maybe it is dying, or only alive on Fridays and Saturdays.

Does someone have a good list of escolas do samba with schedule? Like the best website or instagram link?

Jimmy Boy is one of our veteran mongers. If you have a chance to link up with him in centro RJ or Rio, you should both to get his wisdom and to lend some security in numbers, as he like many of us has been assaulted. Great navigator, as he is a technology whiz too.

Vagabundo hit a centro prive for callsign Noemie Bilas for a 51 minute fuck, which he reduced to the metric of 200 (cost per fuck and suck or CPF) / per minute (51) or less than 4 BRL or 80 lincoln pennies per minute of penis in bare negra vagina per fuck. CPF is cost per fuck. PM is per minute.

In terms of gear list, you should buy a microfiber towel at decathlon, which doubles as a sheet in cheap prives or VM. Attached is a photo with millions of little vagabundo spermatazoa, which have a fair market value of 1. 2 million swiss francs, a full ride at Lugano Federal you, which my grateful country has promised to all my children for watching my radio operator beheaded by a CH47 when we extracted the Pope from a hoarhouse on the shores of Lake Como back in 1953, after which Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo was medically retired to Brazil, after his death was faked by NATO, Interpol, and the filthy capitalist infidel American FBI. Selah.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2956778]Since Sunday night is dead in Centro, decided to kill some time by going to Villa MImosa. Got there about 10:30 PM. Deadest I have ever seen it. 8 or so bars closed, some apparently permanently, some bars with no women and / or customers. Counted about 35 women in the horseshoe and another 15 or so in the bars across the street, all of the quality you would expect there, and even fewer customers. Didn't know if it was because it was a Sunday night or it is dying. Mosaico was also dead: only saw 5 girls and fewer customers but it was early for Mosaico.

Tonight went to check out some of the cheaper bars in Centro around 8:30 PM. Started with 119 Rua Alfandega: 3 girls, all chunky, left. Went to 214 Rua Uruguaiana: 1 girl, left. Figured the other clubs would be just as dead so decided to see if Villa Mimosa was any better. It wasn't. Same as Sunday night, maybe 5 more girls in the horseshoe but almost no girls across the street. Maybe it is dying, or only alive on Fridays and Saturdays.[/QUOTE]

Noemie Bilas 2 hours.

Vagabundo went to centro via BRT and Metro today from Recreio, and hit his top hoar, Noemie Bilas because she's a 23 year old negra who gives it bare for a tip of 20 to 50 BRL. After nearly 5 years of straight hoaring in Rio Vagabundo is all written -- but not fucked -- out. To entertain himself and his readers, Vagabundo witholds names of the actual providers who break various rules by doing it bare, but anyone who reads my material will know the details, including my former rank as a SWISS NAVY Lieutenant Commander, Retired, out of Lugano, Switzerland, where my sainted father, a Lieutenant Colonel repelled the dirty filthy Italians in the forty fifth battle of Lugano, and I carried on his proud tradition of secret service to his holiness, the Pope, going back a dozen centuries, even to the time of Augustine, who named a favela, and a great movie in Rio de Janeiro.

So, I ride Noemie Bilas for a solid 51 minutes in our first fuck of the day at 13 h30, for a cost per fuck of 200/51 or 3. 7 BRL per minute. She comes in, I tell her meio nove, she sits on my face, she deep throats my dick while I vibe her clit, I get hard, she hops on reverse cow girl, she rides for 10 to 15 minutes, seriously. She gets a little tired. This is cross training for muay thai. Men, Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo doesn't want to hear about any of this 5 minute fucks and you shoot your load into a condom. Speaking of which, about a half hour through the hour she starts to complain, next time, you will use a condom. To which I respond, well no baby, I am paying you. I do -- well my penis loves -- her dark, dark chocolate vagina, her round butt, her pretty face, which she doesn't let me kiss on the lips, although I am fine with kissing her vaginal lips, though she is sensitive there too, so I keep that bright pink vibe that Jimmy Boy 99 brought me, next to the IBM Thinkpad Carbon x1 refurbished generation 4 that Michael Samuel brought me (for 400 USD, so it is a device I could lose if a armed attacker stuck a gun in my face). On the thinkpad, I have made compilations of porn that the girls like, like Cherry Torn dominating Noemie Bilas from Kink dot com. While playing the videos to get me all excited I put on music. [URL]youtube.com[/URL], select fellipe Ret, and play radio. This is all you need to cross the language barrier, not to mention the blood brain barrier. She gets high on marijuana, which Vagabundo doesn't use anyore since he trains MMA, and she gets high on nicotine, which I tell her is not good for her health, she should train muay thai instead. Well, she is married, and she feels guilty about giving me her bare kunt, which I take like the vikings who were my forebears going back 5800 years to when my Jewish great great grandmother acted out all the lurid acts described in The Red Tent, which is great Playgirl Letters porn writing. Read it men, to be a better lover.

I take a break in the writing because my batttery is low. I am on my way home on the luxury bus from Av San Jose 35 to Recreio. It's a long ride so I don't wear my underwear so I can piss in the bottle even though it is a luxury bus, which costs 23 reais. 23 reais is like 4 whole minutes of sex, and like all good Spinozite Jews, Chaplain Vagabundo is addicted to negra buceta. More on that when I get home.

So, the second fuck of the day was at 18 h. It was probably a fuck too far, but still, I did fuck and suck for 51 minutes, as I started promptly at 18 h01. I wasn't fully hard for the whole 51 minutes, but she sucked like a champ on command, and that's what I was paying for. Key is hydration and exercise and sleep. Oh, did I mention I did not sleep but 2. 5 hours of REM sleep from like 07 h to maybe 09 h30, obsessed by the election in North America. Well, I live in the land of Marquez and Amado, South America, and while hot ass European gringa women of the age of 21 may be a little bit fo a reach for me, I can realistically probably get serious with a chick from South America, judging by my recent non pro success, which I don't really try for, and with total command of Felipe Ret / Porta dos Fundos / Tropa de elite portoguese. I really should learn some good solid portoguese, but selah, given my compensation from the vaults of gold below Lagoa Lugano, I have little motivation but to do the work which is my vocation, which is to say, to fuck cunts around Rio de Janeiro, the capital of the world, and its own planet.

Oh, I might mention that during my second hour of fucking, I did play a video of Brazilian pornstar, Elisa Sanches, to again, Felipe Ret on music dot youtube dot com. I suggest, men, that if you figure out the mfkn audio, your sex will go smoother. Also some deodorant and perfume, and feel free to call yourself Felipe Ret Bengala, which the women here -- at least the hoars -- will find to be funny as fuk.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2956992]Does someone have a good list of escolas do samba with schedule? Like the best website or instagram link?[/QUOTE][URL]https://liesa.globo.com/[/URL] and / or contact schools directly. Social media links on site.

Administrative Notes. Generic viagra pricing, best travel 'fuk you money' burner phone.

Vagabundo picked up some generic viagra at Rua Uruguiana 19, the receipt is attached. You can do the math on the cost per unit.

Like the joke about p for pounds in the equations for how much demolitions to use goes, p stands for plenty. Pop both generic Viagra and Cialis and pop a few pills. And hydrate,*sleep,*etc. Its Generic Viagra so just use plenty. Also Generic PReP is available at Pacheco pharmacias, just ask the clerk to give you the local discount with his own CPF. Another group member, a savvy veteran of the SWISS NAVY, reported that the local UPA will also give you bottles of PReP if you go in and convince them that you need it (ie, I fuck lots of hoars bare, etc, etc). So there is that. UPA is the free local health service, for example at Metro Botafogo.

Senor at ISG Lalabo is arriving 9 November. As the whatsapp group is getting close to 150 vagabundo tries to talk to most new members as 150 is a number for natural human networks of hunter gatherer tribes, like a rifle company (4 x 40 man platoon). Or a SEAL Team. (8 x 21 man platoon), or Marine Raider Team (8 x 14 man platoon with HQ team of 4). We few,*we*happy*few.

Vagabundo's aspiration, as far as is just to be a good leader / organizer for this 150 souls with dicks looking for pussy in Rio.

Oh yeah, my recommendation for phones is a used refurbished Google Pixel on Amazon for less than 200 USD, such as the Pixel 7 a, which Lalabo found for 119 USD (The good thing about a Pixel is that you can put on multiple users, each of which can have multiple whatsapps (whatsapp and whatsapp business). As we mongers often get blocked by the local girls, like callsign amber lynn (you know who we are talking about Senor Dreman), we often reconnect on a new whatsapp number which we get for like 15 reais at central metro station. These contacts often come in handy in our vocation of fucking as much pussy as possible and protecting his holiness in Rome from all his former South American concubines, and his various senor Rabbi buddies from their sex toy and religious relic distribution networks. Shalom.

The religious stuff does lose the attention of some readers, understandably, but the economics / military stuff does work, so Vagabundo will think on that as he writes in the future. The most valuable contributions to our literature of hoaring have come from local brazilian mongers who have a lessons learned report, and from organized writers like Sperto who published so many useful guides, many of which are still cited here as valuable, though, for example, Tigressa Tijuca is out of biz. I need to dig a Patrol Order format out of my toolkit, and from local hiking and event groups and use those too.

I will be in town for a short visit and would like to check out any other casas (I guess they are called Prives in Brazil). Not too keen on spa environment, I prefer safe and neat casa. I am familiar with the one on 4th floor at 583 ave nossa.

What are some other good ones in copacabana area with decent number of girls?

Secondly is the quality at MABs amateur (relatively) or are they mostly hardcore. Any idea what short time rates would be like?

Please share some recommendations Gmen.

Two hoars, 75 minutes, one load.

Vagabundo ubered into centro to his prive date with Cherry Torn at 18 h. When he arrived, Noemie Bilas came into view, and Vagabundo chose her, fucked her for an hour did not come and then had Cherry Torn come in for 20 minutes more of fucking after which he was tired, but her put on some porn with cariocas gangbanging each other and he finally jizzed in the pussy of a woman who looks like his mother, and then, Vagabundo thanked her for the therapy. I mean, seriously, is this some Freudian shit or what, like Julie Andrews come hiking down out of the Austrian Alps into Vienna and sits on Sigmund Freud's fat German bratwurst before she slices it off, like Asa Akira in Pure, Scene 8.

So Vagabundo paid 400 all in for that 70 minutes, one fuck.

In hour one, Vagabundo was playing some evil angel brazilian porno, and had Jimmy Boy's big, pink sex toy thanks again, I mean it was like 15 USD on amazon, which, actually is a sure fire way to make money, that is by importing electronics into Brazil. Most importantly, though, it is essential to fully charge the IBM Thinkpad x1 carbon generatiion four, which cost 400 USD on amazon, ie, a burner laptop. You see, about halfway through, I run out of batteries on the carbon thinkpad. I am in like 30 minutes of doggy style with 23 year old negra kunt squeezing my asian european 18 centimeters of braturst (fucking like that will add a centimeter), and her vaginal muscles are spasming because, again, that huge, pink vibe that looks like a microphone that jimmy Boy brought is better than my tongue on her sensitive little French (I am going to start using French for negra interchangably) clit. She hops around 5 minutes for 69. I am sweating like a pig. I come in there every day, so they have to put up with me. I am getting to the end of the hour and she is like, want to save a load for CHerry Torn? Yep.

I was short like 50,453 deltas of SPY in the vatican account yesterday, you know the side account we use to run the guns and money and lawyers, so it was literally just fuck you money.

I come home and I have anne amari over and we fuck for 5 minutes also cost 450, but she is going to clean. I am working on dating a hot little morena brazilian kickboxer. I am going to give up this life gents. So someday soon, this will be my last post. I will turn over the reigns to a new vagabundo.

Just kidding, I plan to do this for another 4556 years, with all the transfusions from the young Slavic Orthodox and French virgins, and sluts. We actually prefer sluts.

Since I don't have any idea how else I could contact the moderators, I decided to do it in this thread. I apologize inn advance.

I finally bought a full member subscription, but I still can't open pictures and other folders. Anyone have any idea how to move forward? I already sent 2 messages via "contact us" but still no response.

Went out Thursday night to check out some clubs. Stopped by La Confratia Club (the old Whiskeria 65) on 74 Rua the Quintanda in Centro about 9:30 PM. Asked about entrance fee. Doorman said it was 30 Real, consumable. Asked if I could take a look inside at no charge. He said yes, so went upstairs to take a look. Pretty lively, twenty or so women, equal number of customers. Went down to the doorman to get my drink ticket and went back up. Beers are 10-15 Real. Ordered a strawberry caipirinha for 25 Real. Very nice drink. Of the 20 or so women, I would do 4 of them if they were at a prive in the afternoon. One-hour session is 270 Real for a regular room. About 10 PM the Michael Jackson impersonator did his Michael Jackson shtick to a couple of songs. Been doing this since the Whiskeria 65 days, although now he has somewhat of a paunch. Hung around till about 10:30 and then went to Club 21 on 21 Rua Buenos Aires on the recommendation of a local I spoke to at La Confraria, saying it was the owner's birthday. Went there but it was packed and very noisy, so didn't go in. Did see that a one-hur session there was 295 Real.

Then went to check out Club 502 on 65 Rua do Alfandega. On the way there passed by 4 x4. Saw a sign that said they were open on Saturdays from 5 PM to 2 AM. Asked the doorman how long they had been open on Saturdays. Was told 2 months. Entrance fee 50 Real.

Asked doorman how 502 much entrance fee and how many ladies working. He said 10 Real and 22 ladies, so went up. Dead. Only 14 women, none of them attractive to me. Maybe 5 customers. Walked around for a few minutes, paid the 10 Real and left. Not recommended.

[QUOTE=Oterri;2957614]I will be in town for a short visit and would like to check out any other casas (I guess they are called Prives in Brazil). Not too keen on spa environment, I prefer safe and neat casa. I am familiar with the one on 4th floor at 583 ave nossa.

What are some other good ones in copacabana area with decent number of girls?

Secondly is the quality at MABs amateur (relatively) or are they mostly hardcore. Any idea what short time rates would be like?

Please share some recommendations Gmen.[/QUOTE]I believe the site of elliterio is a good place to start. Most girls on this site work out of various prives or clinicas. Try to contact via whattsapp for pictures of the girls and their availabilities. I personally experienced a couple places with unavailable girls who were advertised, but the majority went very well.

Decided to take the bus from Copacbana to Centro tonight around 5:30 PM to see the bay along the route. In Botafogo a dozen or so black teenagers got on the bus through the exit door so they didn't have to pay the fare, packing the back of the bus, so you would have to go through the pack to exit. One of them sat next to me at the back of the bus and would look at my phone, which was secured by a cord to my belt, occasionally. Passenger (all black) got off at a few stops without issue. When I (the only white person in the back of the bus) went to the exit one guy tried to grab my phone, another guy my shoulder bag, another my shirt pocket, and another guy hitting me on the head when I resisted. Fortunately he couldn't take it because of the cord and I was able to get off the bus with my phone and my bag, although I lost the passport photo, CPF, pen, and 200 Real that were in the shirt pocket. Never thought that I would be assaulted and robbed on a public bus. Will not be taking a public bus again. You may want to do the same. You may also want to buy a cell phone cord.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2958100]Decided to take the bus from Copacbana to Centro tonight around 5:30 PM to see the bay along the route. [/QUOTE]That's the same thing that one might encounter in El Centro in Medellin. I was assaulted like that recently while walking. I already knew what would happen. I was following my date to dinner. She just turned around to grab me while I was assaulted. They let me go once they saw I knew the girl. LOL. Then we enjoyed a romantic dinner in front of the Verracruz church and we discussed poverty, drugs and safety. hehehe. During dinner she gave all her money to a beggar while I did nothing

I guess it probably has to do that it is weekend in Rio. I have zipped and double layer pockets and it is not as easy to rob