Barranquilla Reports

[QUOTE=Master Yoda]I am alittle torn between going to BAQ and RIO. Which place would be best for:

i. economical/cheaper
ii. girlfriend hotels/apartments
iii. safety
iv nice resturaunts
v. decent weather
vi. nice beaches
vii. very good p4p scene
viii. very good non-pro scene
ix. humble attitude of women - i.e. lack of stuck up chicas
x. Percentage of beautiful women & sexiness

cheers[/QUOTE]
I have been to BAQ once (for a couple of weeks or so) and to Rio four times, for a total of 8 months or so, both in the city and in the countryside of Rio State, so I thought I'd chip in my two cents. So here's my analysis based on your factors:

i. Economical/Cheaper

The dollar has dropped quite a bit compared to the Brazilian Real (from 3.20 back in 2002 all the way to 2.10 now after hitting 2.80 back in 2004, 2.50 in 2005, and 2.20 in 2006. As a result of that, and combined with increasing prices in the tourist segment, Rio has gotten approx. 60% more expensive between 2004 and 2006 (the last time I was there). And the same time, the dollar has dropped significantly compared to the Colombian Peso (COP), too: seems like the dollar is not doing too fine anywhere these days.

Hotels:
On the low end of the range, you should be able to find something clean and conveniently located in the USD 50.00 range in BAQ in a safe area (Norte); in Rio, we are talking more about the range of USD 65.00 to 80.00 now (in Copacabana). Of course, on the upper end, the sky is the limit. In both cases, it is problematic trying to save a lot of money on hotels because (much) cheaper options are usually located in areas that are not exactly recommendable or far from the action.

Food:
With some local knowledge and language skills, you should be able to live quite cheaply in terms of food expenses in both places. Probably easier in BAQ, because BAQ is simply not a touristy place, while certain areas in Rio where tourists congregate are priced accordingly (Ipanema and, especially, Copacabana).

P4P Costs:
Rio can be much more expensive and much cheaper than BAQ in terms of P4P, simply because Rio has much much more options, from dirt cheap down-and-dirty brothels where you can fuck girls for USD 10.00 or less to high-class escorts charging hundreds of dollars (or tons of not-so-high class ripoff artists charging you hundreds of dollars, too). It all depends on your mongering style, man.

Overall assessment: for safety reasons, you can't just do it really really cheap in either city. Roughly even in terms of costs.

ii. Girlfriend Hotels/Apartments

Girlfriendliness shouldn't be a problem in apartments, anyway. In hotels, the hotel I stayed at in BAQ did allow girls for an extra fee (like USD 10.00 a night, just like my hotel in Rio, which charges me approx. USD 6.00 for an extra occupant. Tons of companion-friendly hotels as well as love motels in either city. Even.

iii. Safety

Both cities have the good, the bad, the ugly... and the extremely violent. The good area in BAQ is Norte, and I don't really see any reason to stay anywhere else. If you have never been to Rio and do not speak any Portuguese, stay in Ipanema, Leblon, Leme, or Copacabana (in that order of preference), just like 95% of all other tourists, and nowhere else. Heed that advice and you're most likely to have a great time in either city. Do something stupid (like entering areas you shouldn't, or getting involved in drugs) and you can get yourself robbed, maimed, or killed in both cities. Easily. Personally, I don't think that either city is exactly recommendable for inexperienced or first-time South America travelers, BAQ even more so than Rio. No reason to get paranoid, but special safety precautions apply. Even.

iv Nice Restauraunts

Rio is a major city with approx. 10 million people, BAQ is much smaller, but not exactly small at 3 million. Overall, I would say that Rio has a number of truly world-class restaurants, while BAQ has something typical befitting it's size. Probably gotta give it to Rio in that respect.

v. Decent Weather

Summers in Rio can be swelteringly hot and humid, but compared to BAQ pretty much year around, they seem pleasant. I honestly think that Barranquilla must have among the shittiest climates anywhere in the world. I am not kidding. Give it to Rio.

vi. Nice Beaches

The beaches are relatively far from the city of BAQ and nothing to write home about. Compare that with Rio where the whole city basically lives on the beach, and you will see a big difference. Much nicer. Big edge for Rio.

vii. Very Good P4P Scene

Rio, Rio, Rio, Rio. The BAQ P4P scene exists, but isn't even in the same solar system as Rio. Hell, not even in the same galaxy. Rio by a mile.

viii. Very Good Non-Pro Scene

Actually, I prefer BAQ in that respect, although Rio is close, but maybe only since I speak fluent Portuguese. No Portuguese, forget about it. At the same time, if you don't understand and speak Spanish, your chances will greatly decrease in BAQ, too. Personally, I have had lots of fun with non-pros in BAQ. Slight edge for Barranquilla.

ix. Humble Attitude of Women - i.e. Lack of Stuck up Chicas

I have found the barranquilleras to be very approachable, flirtateous, and easygoing, and that's why I would rate BAQ as possibly the best place in the world for non-pros. They see so few gringos that you are still a novelty, so make it work in your favor. In Rio? Rio receives millions of foreign tourists every year and is a major site for congresses, conferences, trade shows. They have seen guys like you a million times. In terms of attitude of women, I also gotta give the edge to Barranquilla. Been to about 50 countries in the world, and I would be hard-pressed to find people as friendly and open-minded as the costeños. And that includes the costeñas, too, of course. Slight edge for Barranquilla.

x. Percentage of Beautiful Women & Sexiness

Both places are simply fantastic, maybe with a slight edge for Barranquilla, IMHO. But places feature a great racial mix, and you will see bodies you just can't believe. The percentage of beautiful women is the highest I have seen anywhere with the possible exception of Caracas. Either way, in that respect, both places deserve to be thoroughly explored. You'll have an eye-opening experience either way. Roughly even.

Well, here you have it. At the beginning of 2006, I wrote a detailed comparison Rio vs. Cartagena. Check it out, many of the things I say there pertain to Barranquilla, too:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=422385&postcount=25[/url]

Once additional thing that I would like to point out in respect of this report is that, while Cartagena has little things to do compared with possible activities in Rio, Barranquilla has practically none. Nada, zero, zilch. And as I mentioned above, Barranquilla weather is definitely worse than anywhere (including Cartagena), and beaches are also farther out than in CTG, too. I can also confirm what others have said on this board: in BAQ, there is little to do during the day and throughout the week. Thursday to Saturday evenings are a different matter, though, with tons of people out and about partying. Rio is a party 365 days a year.

Hope this helps,

EA

El Austriaco thanks for the comparison :).

I hope there are more photos like the ones you have Sun Devil. BAQ have less photos but I think its because not many gringos want to venture there.

I particularly would like to see a photo of a BAQ chica getting fucked by one of our members. Sorry guys I just love them X-rated photos. But I do realise the P4P scene sucks.

[QUOTE=Master Yoda]But I do realise the P4P scene sucks.[/QUOTE]
The P4P scene only sucks when compared to Rio, but then again, with the possible exception of Bangkok, every place sucks compared to Rio. It is just that the P4P scene in Barranquilla:

1) Seems to be underexplored, especially by foreign mongers posting on this board,
2) While there must be lots of more P4P options in BAQ, many of them are probably located in areas that are NOT safe for foreigners to tread, especially those not familar with Colombia and without any proficiency in Spanish.
3) BAQ is off the beaten track and not touristy at all, so there is no well-developed gringo P4P, like in Cartagena, two hours away, or Medellin.

But I tell you what: off the P4P joints I have personally been to in BAQ, I wish, just wish I had those options where I live (Mexico): in terms of looks of girls, friendliness, prices, everything, the whole package. And it sure beats the hell out of sex prision, you can bet on that!

EA

I got those types of pics, and used to share them online. Now, I only share them with my buddies. Some dudes take liberties with photos on this board. Check the other threads.

Some dudes are literally printing the photos and taking them into places to find the exact girl (This, I witnessed in Santo Domingo a couple of years ago, and the dude was 40+ yo, not a kid.). Some dudes are actually signing into the site and showing the girls their photos, as well as many other girls, on internet sites. Luckily, none of my photos have been victimized in this way, but a few veteran mongers that I trust have been. Just not worth the effort of sharing anymore. It just happened in the Ecuador thread as well.

Some mongers don't give a fuck and still post pics. More power to them. I plan on returning to these stomping grounds. I don't need any issues with the chicas.

[QUOTE=Master Yoda]I hope there are more photos like the ones you have Sun Devil. BAQ have less photos but I think its because not many gringos want to venture there.

I particularly would like to see a photo of a BAQ chica getting fucked by one of our members. Sorry guys I just love them X-rated photos. But I do realise the P4P scene sucks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=El Austriaco]The P4P scene only sucks when compared to Rio, but then again, with the possible exception of Bangkok, every place sucks compared to Rio. It is just that the P4P scene in Barranquilla:

1) Seems to be underexplored, especially by foreign mongers posting on this board,
2) While there must be lots of more P4P options in BAQ, many of them are probably located in areas that are NOT safe for foreigners to tread, especially those not familar with Colombia and without any proficiency in Spanish.
3) BAQ is off the beaten track and not touristy at all, so there is no well-developed gringo P4P, like in Cartagena, two hours away, or Medellin.

But I tell you what: off the P4P joints I have personally been to in BAQ, I wish, just wish I had those options where I live (Mexico): in terms of looks of girls, friendliness, prices, everything, the whole package. And it sure beats the hell out of sex prision, you can bet on that!

EA[/QUOTE]It definately seems like Rio is P4P heaven. I am not really a Bangkok fan. I just don't like that look that most of the women have. Latinas are different.

The fact that BAQ is underexplored territory and not very tourist probably makes it all the more better for Non-Pro place as opposed to a P4P one.

OH and EA anything is better than "Sex Prison" :)

[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]I got those types of pics, and used to share them online. Now, I only share them with my buddies. Some dudes take liberties with photos on this board. Check the other threads.

Some dudes are literally printing the photos and taking them into places to find the exact girl (This, I witnessed in Santo Domingo a couple of years ago, and the dude was 40+ yo, not a kid.). Some dudes are actually signing into the site and showing the girls their photos, as well as many other girls, on internet sites. Luckily, none of my photos have been victimized in this way, but a few veteran mongers that I trust have been. Just not worth the effort of sharing anymore. It just happened in the Ecuador thread as well.

Some mongers don't give a fuck and still post pics. More power to them. I plan on returning to these stomping grounds. I don't need any issues with the chicas.[/QUOTE]
Well I wish I could have been your friend HH because I would love to see some more Barranquilleras.

However...

I know exactly where you are coming from and I respect the fact that you don't want to share such photos. When people take such liberties it makes me sick.

There are millions of women to be had, so why go through all the effort just to hunt one down who may not even be all that good to you anyway. Pictures never show you how the person looks like in person anyway.

Looking at pictures of Barranquilleras off a mail order agency or a porn site is not the same as when you see a monger post his. It feels more real. The woman doesn't alway need to be nude or sucking some guys dick. But just to see how the woman generally look like in that country. Because you see a woman as she is. There is no special lighting, No special makeup etc. And the fact that the guy posting the pics actually did screw that woman makes your mouth water for such pussy. This is why I like ISG.

Was here for a while in December.

Chicas

I wouldn't say the girls here are easy. All were met through Cybercupido and Latin American Cupid. Some girls were only good for a dinner and a peck on the cheek afterwards. Others were good for much more. I didn't pick up anybody cold turkey, since I was mostly kept busy by the non-pros. I wasn't very impressed with the pro scene.

Hotels

Dann Carlton

Only 1 night here. Paid about US$90. Handy location across from Buena Vista Mall, but not so close to much else. Nice pool but the gym was pretty much useless for me. I didn't try to bring a girl back here. Other reports say that they charge an extra fee.

Sorrento

Just a couple of nights here. Cost about $35. Totally guest friendly. No hot water in the shower. Bad reception on TV. Only a very small slit window near the ceiling. It's ok value. But I didn't care much for the neighborhood. It's all busy streets and a bit gritty.

Barranquilla Plaza

Stayed here the longest. It cost from 126,000 pesos to 166,000 depending on the day and the nearness to Christmas. Good pool but another useless gym. The room was fine and had a good view. There's a key locking in room safe. I was often able to use the internet in the business center for free because it was left unattended and logged in. There's a top floor bar and restaurant with great views of the city, good for a date. There's also a lobby bar that's good for a first time meeting with a non-pro. There are several restaurants and cafes within easy walking distance. The neighborhood is pleasant with lots of trees and grass and park areas. Girls were allowed in for free after leaving an ID at the front. Security is very watchful.

Pro scene, casas and girlie bars

I'll get this out of the way first since I didn't care for it much. I went to Lusitania once with Peter Solano and once on my own. Both times the few girls I would have been interested in were already with a guy. When I went on my own I was constantly badgered for tips by the girls, waiters, and doorman. I also went to the casa on Cra 49. But they tried to charge me well over the going rate. The girls were disinterested and not much to look at anyway. Another casa on Cra 48 was closed at the time I was there and had a for sale sign. I had enough non-pro action so after being put off these few times I didn't bother with the pros anymore.

Gym

Since I didn't have a good gym in any of the hotels I joined Bodytech. It's in the Exito Shopping Center on about Calle 89. I paid 80,000 for a 1 week membership. If you want to see more girlies working out shoot for the early evenings on weekdays.

Malls

Buena Vista was the only mall I saw that was a mall as we know it, as in large and enclosed and air conditioned. There's also Country Plaza (walking distance from Barranquilla Plaza) but it's open air. I can understand that in cool Medellin and Bogota but in sultry BAQ it doesn't make much sense. There is a smallish place near El Prado Hotel that didn't seem to have much going for it. Exito, which has the Bodytech gym, is more like a WalMart than a mall. There is a food court there which may have pickup possibilities. In my few unaccompanied forays to these places I didn't manage to pick anyone up. But I think that timing and persistence could pay off.

Cafes

Good places to meet up with a date that doesn't want to come to your hotel. Henry's American Cafe at Calle 80 and Cra 55 may be one of the more likely pickup spots, especially the outdoor seating area. Near there on Cra 55 there are about 4 cafes, with comfortable cushioned seating. Beer Company, at Calle 84 and Cra 55, was another popular meetup spot with one nonpro and her friends. It's an outdoor beer garden kind of place. Several appraising glances from girls here which I couldn't follow up on since I was paired off already. There's another place like it on the same calle at Cra 46, across from Hotel Windsor.

Discos and salsa clubs

The more popular places, like Frog Leggs, were a bit of a pain. Either they were empty/closed (weeknights) or stuffed full and not letting people in. It was hard to find a happy medium. There's another fairly popular disco on the top floor of Country Plaza mall. The girl I met at Beer Company took me to a place about one block down from the beer garden. It's on the second floor of a line of shops but I can't remember the name of it. The music was all salsa, merengue and reggaeton. Another girl took me to a raucous dance place on Calle 40 in the lower numbered carreras. I can't remember the name of it (seems like it was Napoleon or something like that). There are several similar looking places along this street. I'm not sure of the safety issues around there but it seemed ok. This one place was a mass of sweaty, writhing bodies. That was ok since I was accompanied by a nice body to writhe and sweat with.

La Quinta disco was closed because it got to be too noisy for the neighborhood. It did apparently open one night for a special party.

Language

Even after 8 weeks of practice in Argentina, Peru and Colombia I found the communication here labored. The costenas speak really fast. Even after asked to speak a little more despacio they do just that, speak a very little slower. None of the girls I met spoke any English.

As others have said there isn't a lot to do here. There's very little of sightseeing interest and the nearby beaches are mediocre.

The people are very friendly and the girls can be had, usually after some wining and dining. I wouldn't come here for the pro scene though. Cartagena is better if you want to mix normal girls with pros.

Nice report...

The bar on the 2nd floor on top the line of shops you referred to... I too can't recall the name. My thinking is we are thinking of the same place. Outdoors there are like round tables with I guess you would call them mats or cushions to sit on. Kind of like a couch, but not really as it's a big round thing with a lit up center. Is that the place? Damn I can't remember the name. I only went once... on a weekday so it was dead. I hear it's pretty happening on weekends. It's pretty close to Pkdos, right?

I'm not too fond of Henry's. I guess it's ok, but way too expensive for just a sit down and talk kind of place. If I'm going to pay those prices to drink, I want to dance and get it on. Henry's makes me feel like I'm back in the US. Stayed away as much as possible.

Lusitania sucks. I prefer the strip clubs down en el Murillo. Lindas Chicas, Mellenium 21, Cheeters. I think they are around 21st. Didn't partake much as I have a chica but when I did get a hallpass I would go down there with some Colombian buddies. I much prefer this setting over Lusitania... but it's not for the meek at heart. You will be the only gringo and it will be full of paramilitaries so go at your own risk. Prices are 5k for the room and I've seen people pay anywhere from 15k to 35k pesos for the chica. I think 20-25k is the norm. 35k is for the gringo that doesnt know any better. I actually enjoy watching the shows. The chicas pulling up a volunteer and having sex on stage. Or the chica putting huge chunks of ice in her vagina and then squirting them out. Makes for some great fotos.

La quinta has been closed for 2 years. You just went to a private party that rented out La Quintas old location.

Frogg Leggs... Thursday is the best night for Frogg Leggs... go around 10pm so you get in without waiting in line. Better yet call and have your name put on the list. Frogg Leggs is ok, but once again... it just reminds me of the US type of disco again. I prefer the type you mentioned that was hot and steamy... you were probably down in Murillo... was it pretty big the disco? Did you go to Alcatraz, Maria Mulata etc. I prefer those and calle 82 o 84 over the Frogg Leggs, VC Club, etc type of places.

Honestly the key to getting laid by non-pros in Barranquilla is 1) obvioulsy make them melt for you but it's actually rather simple. Regardless who it is... someone you meet at the mall, internet cafe, on the street... anywhere. Just walk around and talk to people in the day. Have a 5 minute conversation and ask them out for a weekend night. Granted many will say yes and then when the time comes they will cancel so set many dates up for the same night. Then take them out and treat them like a goddess. Give them a goodnight kiss and tell them you really enjoyed the evening and want to see her again. Date# 2... invite her over for lunch one day or invite her for pizza and a DVD(at your place). You need a DVD player at your place, but this works like a charm. I have never not gotten laid by a non-pro Barranquillera on the 2nd date using this approach. They are just as horny as you and if you get to a 3rd date and you still haven't gotten laid... you are moving too slow and she will probably think you are gay. Thus... 1st date... forget about any hoochie coochie. 2nd date... make it back at your place. Unless you have an extended period of time to really get to know someone and take them out over and over you are just rarely going to get laid by a non-pro after a night of dancing and/or drinking. Before I had a girlfriend, it was almost always during the daytime where I would get laid. Whether it was telling them to come over to watch a DVD or telling them to come over during lunchtime between classes and I would cook them lunch. If they come over for the movie, they want to get laid as well. But forget this daytime approach to get laid on a first date and forget about getting laid on a 1st date or even a 2nd date if it's a night out of dancing etc. Typically they have to go home to their parents. Daytime is the key.



[QUOTE=Mahku]Was here for a while in December.

Chicas

I wouldn't say the girls here are easy. All were met through Cybercupido and Latin American Cupid. Some girls were only good for a dinner and a peck on the cheek afterwards. Others were good for much more. I didn't pick up anybody cold turkey, since I was mostly kept busy by the non-pros. I wasn't very impressed with the pro scene.

Hotels

Dann Carlton

Only 1 night here. Paid about US$90. Handy location across from Buena Vista Mall, but not so close to much else. Nice pool but the gym was pretty much useless for me. I didn't try to bring a girl back here. Other reports say that they charge an extra fee.

Sorrento

Just a couple of nights here. Cost about $35. Totally guest friendly. No hot water in the shower. Bad reception on TV. Only a very small slit window near the ceiling. It's ok value. But I didn't care much for the neighborhood. It's all busy streets and a bit gritty.

Barranquilla Plaza

Stayed here the longest. It cost from 126,000 pesos to 166,000 depending on the day and the nearness to Christmas. Good pool but another useless gym. The room was fine and had a good view. There's a key locking in room safe. I was often able to use the internet in the business center for free because it was left unattended and logged in. There's a top floor bar and restaurant with great views of the city, good for a date. There's also a lobby bar that's good for a first time meeting with a non-pro. There are several restaurants and cafes within easy walking distance. The neighborhood is pleasant with lots of trees and grass and park areas. Girls were allowed in for free after leaving an ID at the front. Security is very watchful.

Pro scene, casas and girlie bars

I'll get this out of the way first since I didn't care for it much. I went to Lusitania once with Peter Solano and once on my own. Both times the few girls I would have been interested in were already with a guy. When I went on my own I was constantly badgered for tips by the girls, waiters, and doorman. I also went to the casa on Cra 49. But they tried to charge me well over the going rate. The girls were disinterested and not much to look at anyway. Another casa on Cra 48 was closed at the time I was there and had a for sale sign. I had enough non-pro action so after being put off these few times I didn't bother with the pros anymore.

Gym

Since I didn't have a good gym in any of the hotels I joined Bodytech. It's in the Exito Shopping Center on about Calle 89. I paid 80,000 for a 1 week membership. If you want to see more girlies working out shoot for the early evenings on weekdays.

Malls

Buena Vista was the only mall I saw that was a mall as we know it, as in large and enclosed and air conditioned. There's also Country Plaza (walking distance from Barranquilla Plaza) but it's open air. I can understand that in cool Medellin and Bogota but in sultry BAQ it doesn't make much sense. There is a smallish place near El Prado Hotel that didn't seem to have much going for it. Exito, which has the Bodytech gym, is more like a WalMart than a mall. There is a food court there which may have pickup possibilities. In my few unaccompanied forays to these places I didn't manage to pick anyone up. But I think that timing and persistence could pay off.

Cafes

Good places to meet up with a date that doesn't want to come to your hotel. Henry's American Cafe at Calle 80 and Cra 55 may be one of the more likely pickup spots, especially the outdoor seating area. Near there on Cra 55 there are about 4 cafes, with comfortable cushioned seating. Beer Company, at Calle 84 and Cra 55, was another popular meetup spot with one nonpro and her friends. It's an outdoor beer garden kind of place. Several appraising glances from girls here which I couldn't follow up on since I was paired off already. There's another place like it on the same calle at Cra 46, across from Hotel Windsor.

Discos and salsa clubs

The more popular places, like Frog Leggs, were a bit of a pain. Either they were empty/closed (weeknights) or stuffed full and not letting people in. It was hard to find a happy medium. There's another fairly popular disco on the top floor of Country Plaza mall. The girl I met at Beer Company took me to a place about one block down from the beer garden. It's on the second floor of a line of shops but I can't remember the name of it. The music was all salsa, merengue and reggaeton. Another girl took me to a raucous dance place on Calle 40 in the lower numbered carreras. I can't remember the name of it (seems like it was Napoleon or something like that). There are several similar looking places along this street. I'm not sure of the safety issues around there but it seemed ok. This one place was a mass of sweaty, writhing bodies. That was ok since I was accompanied by a nice body to writhe and sweat with.

La Quinta disco was closed because it got to be too noisy for the neighborhood. It did apparently open one night for a special party.

Language

Even after 8 weeks of practice in Argentina, Peru and Colombia I found the communication here labored. The costenas speak really fast. Even after asked to speak a little more despacio they do just that, speak a very little slower. None of the girls I met spoke any English.

As others have said there isn't a lot to do here. There's very little of sightseeing interest and the nearby beaches are mediocre.

The people are very friendly and the girls can be had, usually after some wining and dining. I wouldn't come here for the pro scene though. Cartagena is better if you want to mix normal girls with pros.[/QUOTE]

I felt the same way about Lucitania and Zona Roja (around the corner). La belleza de Barranquilla is the non pros, not the hooker scene, although Hoof Hunter and Peter Solano are the resident experts on the Mouth of the Magdalena and can likely direct you to better mongering venues than those listed on ISG.

That's the place on Calle 40. I don't know why I thought it was Napoleon. Over 6 months of travel on 3 continents the names and places started to run together. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's it. The bar is on the left from the door, band plays in sort of the left back corner. There's a balcony up above.

Sounds like you know the better pro places Winner. If I'm in town again and want to try pros I hope I can be with either you or Hoof Hunter.

The 2nd floor place that you mention sounds like a cafe cum bar that I saw close to Country Plaza, on about calle 76 or 78. It may have dancing at night but I never tried it. It has the roundish outdoor area with a round bar in the middle that you mention. I'm not sure if that's the one you're talking about but I remember it as being another place that looked promising, though I never got around to it.

The one I'm thinking of is about a 3 or 4 minute walk from Beer Company at Calle 84 and Cra 55. That would put it in Cra 53 or 54. I don't remember it having much seating outside. There's another place downstairs in the same building that I didn't go into.

You're right that the 2nd date is crunch time. I often prefer to invite them over for swimming. This usually means changing clothes in my room, and hanging out there before and after.

Yeah.. you were at Alcatraz. Alcatraz is pretty happening. It just ticks me off that Alcatraz doesnt sell Aguila o Club Colombia. Corona or Heineken were my only choices... ah also no smoking inside and that back little smoking room is well a sauna??

-yes regarding theplace in Country Plaza.. .cant remember the name either. Only went once.

-Calle 84 and Cra 55.. you are thinking of sp... I have no idea how to spell it or even pronounce it as I was always pretty drunk for some reason before I ever got there... It's like Bayonueva o algo asi. Its kind of caticorner from La Kama. It's a decent spot, what I really love about it is the grill out front of that place. I always thought they had one of the best chuzo de pollos that I would find after late night drinking. They are all over the place, but that one rocks. hmmmm... come to think of it maybe you are talking about bars in that shopping strip across from that big liquor store where everyone drinks. There's 3 levels. On the top level it was always a 10k+ cover so I never went. 2nd level beers were to expensive. Now the bottom floor. I liked those 2 spots. One was called La Sala... lots of Regetton. The other which was always packed... can't remember the name. Good Vallenato/Salsa/Merengue mix and those 2 bars had good prices. I almost always went there at least every other weekend for a night sometime during the night on Friday or Saturday.

Swimming... great idea. I didnt have a pool.

Sure- I'll go with you down to the strip bars next time Im in Barranquilla. May not partake but I'll go. They watch my back pretty well there as I am very good friends with one of the more likable chicas that strips in 4 of the bars in that area. I say friend... not customer.

[QUOTE=Mahku]That's the place on Calle 40. I don't know why I thought it was Napoleon. Over 6 months of travel on 3 continents the names and places started to run together. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that's it. The bar is on the left from the door, band plays in sort of the left back corner. There's a balcony up above.

Sounds like you know the better pro places Winner. If I'm in town again and want to try pros I hope I can be with either you or Hoof Hunter.

The 2nd floor place that you mention sounds like a cafe cum bar that I saw close to Country Plaza, on about calle 76 or 78. It may have dancing at night but I never tried it. It has the roundish outdoor area with a round bar in the middle that you mention. I'm not sure if that's the one you're talking about but I remember it as being another place that looked promising, though I never got around to it.

The one I'm thinking of is about a 3 or 4 minute walk from Beer Company at Calle 84 and Cra 55. That would put it in Cra 53 or 54. I don't remember it having much seating outside. There's another place downstairs in the same building that I didn't go into.

You're right that the 2nd date is crunch time. I often prefer to invite them over for swimming. This usually means changing clothes in my room, and hanging out there before and after.[/QUOTE]

Sorry guys been away for awhile. I have been busy.

Now for non-pro talk. I always like non-pro talk.

It seems that getting on the non-pros in Barranquilla is more like trial and error or hit and miss because you have to string a line of dates (like 15) to even produce one good date for that night, since most girls would have cancelled (obviously to avoid you not for any good reason). It just doesn't make sense to go messing around or chasing non-pros in BAQ unless you are living there (ideal situation for most of us) or you spend lots of time there (visit and leave or stay for like 3 months).

One dude I spoke to tells me that BAQ chicks are hard to get on because there is money there and guys flashing that plata and unless you are living there or know people & speak spanish (duh) your going to have a hard time.

No?

Winner71 just out of interest what do you do with all those other numbers you got?

[QUOTE=Winner71]Honestly the key to getting laid by non-pros in Barranquilla is 1) obvioulsy make them melt for you but it's actually rather simple. Regardless who it is... someone you meet at the mall, internet cafe, on the street... anywhere. Just walk around and talk to people in the day. Have a 5 minute conversation and ask them out for a weekend night. Granted many will say yes and then when the time comes they will cancel so set many dates up for the same night. Then take them out and treat them like a goddess. Give them a goodnight kiss and tell them you really enjoyed the evening and want to see her again. Date# 2... invite her over for lunch one day or invite her for pizza and a DVD(at your place). You need a DVD player at your place, but this works like a charm. I have never not gotten laid by a non-pro Barranquillera on the 2nd date using this approach. They are just as horny as you and if you get to a 3rd date and you still haven't gotten laid... you are moving too slow and she will probably think you are gay. Thus... 1st date... forget about any hoochie coochie. 2nd date... make it back at your place. Unless you have an extended period of time to really get to know someone and take them out over and over you are just rarely going to get laid by a non-pro after a night of dancing and/or drinking. Before I had a girlfriend, it was almost always during the daytime where I would get laid. Whether it was telling them to come over to watch a DVD or telling them to come over during lunchtime between classes and I would cook them lunch. If they come over for the movie, they want to get laid as well. But forget this daytime approach to get laid on a first date and forget about getting laid on a 1st date or even a 2nd date if it's a night out of dancing etc. Typically they have to go home to their parents. Daytime is the key.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer]I felt the same way about Lucitania and Zona Roja (around the corner). La belleza de Barranquilla is the non pros, not the hooker scene, although Hoof Hunter and Peter Solano are the resident experts on the Mouth of the Magdalena and can likely direct you to better mongering venues than those listed on ISG.[/QUOTE]

I'm not any type of expert on the BAQ scene. I just know what I know from MY own experiences (mongering/non-mongering) there, and can find out from locals any new news on the place.

Second, don't EVER mention my name in the same breath as the other dude. LOL!!!

Nice reports, Mahku & Winner!!! Glad to see other people freely contributing back to this thread. I'm pretty much done reporting anything new on this board. I still make multiple trips there annually, but it just isn't worth reporting it anymore.

Suerte!!!

[QUOTE=Enigma84]Sorry guys been away for awhile. I have been busy.

Now for non-pro talk. I always like non-pro talk.

It seems that getting on the non-pros in Barranquilla is more like trial and error or hit and miss because you have to string a line of dates (like 15) to even produce one good date for that night, since most girls would have cancelled (obviously to avoid you not for any good reason). It just doesn't make sense to go messing around or chasing non-pros in BAQ unless you are living there (ideal situation for most of us) or you spend lots of time there (visit and leave or stay for like 3 months).

One dude I spoke to tells me that BAQ chicks are hard to get on because there is money there and guys flashing that plata and unless you are living there or know people & speak spanish (duh) your going to have a hard time.

No?

Winner71 just out of interest what do you do with all those other numbers you got?[/QUOTE]

Not sure who told you this, or whether he looked like Gollum from Lord of the Rings, but that ain't true. LOL!!!

Getting interest from non-pro girls in BAQ for foreigners is very easy. It's just that, once you get that interest, what do you do with it? If you speak Spanish well enough to understand when people are speaking it at a fast rate, and you can keep up, unless the girl is a complete prude, you should be getting some pretty quickly.

If you look halfway decent, dress halfway decent, can keep up a conversation in Spanish, can make her laugh, can dance to vallenato, not whine about how hot is it and just enjoy the ride, come up with ideas of things to do together, you really shouldn't have a problem with non-pros there. Money has little to do with it, at least not to the extent you're thinking of.

There are TONS of Barranquilleras on the dating sites, plus there are tons of them in the bazillion marriage agencies there. They are easy enough to meet in person, as I find costenas to have the best personalities in Colombia, generally way more down-to-earth, realistic, and less maintenance than your paisas, rolas, and calenas. If you start off with your pockets wide open, as opposed to your common sense and communication skills leading the way, you will get played. But where wouldn't that happen?

I've witnessed several butt-ugly locals with hot chicks around their own age, including some of my own friends (LOL!!!). These dudes aren't flashy nor rich. They are practical and more than willing to call BS when a chick, hot or not, tries to pull a fast one. They have personalities and backbones, that's pretty much it. These chicks respect that so much more than a doormat.

If a chick keeps you waiting more than 15 minutes without a call, leave and move on to the next chick immediately. Don't waste your time waiting or calling her. As the local guys do, there are too many other hot chicks there to waste time on one who doesn't respect you nor your time. Trust me, she shows up 30 minutes later, you're not there, she'll be chasing you down. She might be pissed, but she'll respect you and probably won't do it again if you let her. Backbone. If she does it again, then let her be someone else's problem. Again, too many fish in the sea, esp. for a foreigner.

I can honestly say that I'm about 75% in bedding down non-pro chicas in BAQ once I meet them. Most within a day or two. Not bragging at all, nor am I any kind of good-looking like that, but just trying to point out how easy it is as a foreigner. Speaking Spanish and having a personality really goes a helluva long way.

Suerte