Budapest

the only club in BP that doesn't make you feel that the Mafia has painted a big X on your back...

Nice club, nice girls, nice friendly atmosphere or a neighborhood bar, and not a ripoff joint unlike the other rip-off joints in Budapest. Similar to U.S. strip clubs except that the girls on stage don't strip, which leads to a strange situation; when one of the girls does a table dance which is full nudity, all heads turn to watch the table dance and nobody watches the stage. The dancing girls just boringly gyrate on stage or talk to each other and with no incentives to make a man part with his forint, don't take away tips.

Table dance is 6K Ft. with no touching allowed and a private dance in the basement is 12K Ft. with touching everywhere.The girls also offer FS at your hotel for 25K Ft. per hour which is very steep.

For comparision I've seen 2 FL's so far, whom I contacted via the websites;
[url]www.rosszlanyok.hu[/url]
[url]www.redzone.hu[/url]

I paid one 25K for 2 hours and the other 30K for 2 hours. The only thing that bothered me about this place is that within 2 minutes of walking in, I was aproached by 3 different girls asking me to buy them champagne which goes for 9K.

Conveniently located near Museum area and easily accessible by public transportation (metro stop Kalvin on blue line) is 50 meters away.

Njoy!

Dear Readers,

I am a little surprised to read that most of your expect Hungarian girls to be dirt cheap. If you just check any escort web site on the Internet with Google, you can see prices like EUR 400 - EUR 1000. That's for Western Europe. Ok. But I am sure you all have experienced that Eastern European girls are much better and kinder and more easy going than Western girls, so why do we expect them to be a lot cheaper than Western girls? I know some of your reasons, but this really beats me.

I am not sure if I want to go out with a girl who is ready to do services for EUR 50 - 60. How many times (a day) does she have to serve men in order to get the money she needs to live? If a girl gets let's say EUR 400 for a few hours, at least she will have money to spend, and would be much happier and satisfied. Girls in bars are working as robots. They count how many times 50 EUR they make a day. Doesn't that sound appaling?

In my view, a Hungarian or Czech girl should be paid very good money if she is really kind, GFE, and happily providing the services she is advertising. I would certainly pay EUR 400 - 800 for an experience, where I can go out with her as GFE and I don't have to hide her in my bedroom because she looks ugly.

What do you guys think?

Peter

[QUOTE=Psmith Work]

I experience that EE girls are better than West,
so why expect them to be cheap?

I am not sure if I want a girl for EUR 50.

How many money she needs to live?

If a girl gets EUR 400 she will be happi.

Girls in bars get 50 EUR does that sound appaling?

In my view, a Czech girl should be paid EUR 800 and I don't have to hide.

do you think?

[/QUOTE]

For 800 euro, a girl should be giving you one of her kidneys.

In Russian cities, (not Moscow or Kiev), escort price is about 25 euro,
and girl keeps only half of that. Quality range will be from around
low 5-6, to a high 7-8. For a 9-10, if you can get it, maybe you pay
3 or 4 times more, but you could be lucky and get for only 50 euro
or even less.

Anyone wondering if "Peter, PSmith" has ovary instead testicle,
and is actually Patricia?

It is moving in that direction Psmith - however the laws of supply and demand usually bring things back into line.

What something is worth is simply set by the supply, the demand, and the cost of providing the service. Budapest has been moving up - Prague not so much. If the cost of living goes up substantially in an area, usually so will the prices.

We have a couple of forces currently in play in Europe that are beginning and will accelerate a reduction in prices, in my opinion.

Three major monger costs are airfares, hotels and currency rates.

Our American brothers are already feeling the pain of all three in Europe and it will get worse in 2007 as they check their holiday plans.

Airfares are moving up quickly, hotels ditto and the Euro is killing them.

Fewer Customers from this quarter in 2007 - less demand for services - girls getting bored and providing more flexible prices, I predict, or at least hold the line. For European based brothers - the airfares and hotel story comes into play if not the currency issue - again less demand - and the girls will have to adjust prices downward or maintain.

If you look through the threads on ISG, you will already see the complaints, and reduced expectations for travel for the hobby.

Also as usual, the really top providers and value providers will do well, perhaps even better than before. There is a natural tendency to "buy less" but "buy a better product" when you do when things are as described above. The Liquor industry has known and used this for many years.

Most providers are not in this category, and so the number of clients falls even further for them while to top and good providers who offer a superior product see more clients.

Let's see how it turns out. There is always the possibility of returning to school teaching or as a shop assistant for those without the ability or desire to provide the market with a top product., And that is the way it should be.

Dear Cheap Girl Seekers,

Some of you are right in going to Russia to spend EUR 10-20 for a girl. Fantastic. Let's see how far we have to travel to, to get the cheapest round. If you are skilful enough you can convince a beautiful girl at a downtown disco as well. If she likes you, you can probably do it for free.

Price should not be the biggest issue. Most of the girls hate those men who are negotiating. Those men who are cancelling a girl for 50 EUR price difference, would be usually happy with a common pro at the corner. Come on, if you feel like going with a street pro, if that is the level you prefer, just do it.

I hope there are plenty of other fellows here who would be happy to pay more for very good services and very good looks.

Peter

Psmith work, (whatever kind of name that is ??). I am not deliberately being mean, but I am not even going to be bothered responding to what you have said about prices, nice girls etc, except that to say you are talking utter crap and have no idea what you are talking about !!!

Paid sex is a service like any other, why pay 800 when you can pay 50 Euros. You seem to me like the guy in the shop buying a GSM with diamonds on it for 1000 Euro, for god knows what reason, except that he is stupid and thinks he is impressing someone, maybe himself ?? You obviously have plenty more money than you have sense. I guess you must have inherited it, because if you were as stupid in business than with mongering you would be utterly bankrupt.

By the way, I have had gorgeous ladies in Budapest for 50 Euros, not ugly old dogs !!! And who says Eastern European ladies are much freindlier than westerners, that is also utter subjective crap you are talking. I have had friendly ladies in Eastern Europe, but let me tell you something, in the clubs in Spain, the most unfriendly, cold, mercenary cows are usually the East Europeans !!! So please go away and take your head out of your ass because you are annoying me and wasting my time !!!!

I m afraid that Coupe66 and Psmith don't look for the same thing.

And arguments may never last as between those who prefer cheap hamburgers than expensive restaurants.

Of course , in life , in general, good services and good products are expensive but unfortunately expensive services and products may be not really good !!

Sex services are a bit special because they are "lightly" intimate between humanbeings (even if for some people, prostitutes may not be humanbeings anymore) so I think that there may be some consequences in the quality of the services provided if we behave as if they are just "like any other" service.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]

Im afraid that Coupe66 don't see between cheap an expensive.

Of course good is expensive!

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Economics 101.
Prices for commodities are based on several factors, but
the final price is based on competition between retailers.
Over time, prices go up, but inflation levels tend to be
related to local market forces.

I still have a mamachka's business card from 2000, read
"sex $20" with her phone number. Price is now $30 seven
years later. It is all that the local market will sustain.

In the US, its common to be quoted $300 price for one hour
when you call escort services. Used to be $150 in 1985. You
can still find competitive rates around $180/$200 though, but
quality is very inconsistent at those lower rates.

Quality/performance seems to depend more on the girl than
the price. Sex workers tend to change considerably as time goes
forward, and usually not for the better, IMHO. Many mongers
prefer to have providers with a lot of experience. Its just not my
preference

Yana only asked for $30. She is devil and angel in one.

[QUOTE=Coupe66]Psmith work, (whatever kind of name that is ??). I am not deliberately being mean, but I am not even going to be bothered responding to what you have said about prices, nice girls etc, except that to say you are talking utter crap and have no idea what you are talking about !!!

Paid sex is a service like any other, why pay 800 when you can pay 50 Euros. You seem to me like the guy in the shop buying a GSM with diamonds on it for 1000 Euro, for god knows what reason, except that he is stupid and thinks he is impressing someone, maybe himself ?? You obviously have plenty more money than you have sense. I guess you must have inherited it, because if you were as stupid in business than with mongering you would be utterly bankrupt.

By the way, I have had gorgeous ladies in Budapest for 50 Euros, not ugly old dogs !!! And who says Eastern European ladies are much freindlier than westerners, that is also utter subjective crap you are talking. I have had friendly ladies in Eastern Europe, but let me tell you something, in the clubs in Spain, the most unfriendly, cold, mercenary cows are usually the East Europeans !!! So please go away and take your head out of your ass because you are annoying me and wasting my time !!!![/QUOTE]If you feel like your time is wasting you have a chance to not to use this site or you can simply ignore the messages that make your precious time wasted. Your attitude is very aggressive and most annoying. If there's discussion going on you have to argue your points without insulting anyone.

Have fun to you!

Bez bezarra,

You seem to be a person who likes polemics.

You alterate my statements to get subjects for polemics.

If you really read my last post , you will see that what you wrote is already inside it :

1) " .. unfortunately expensive services and products may be not really good". Did you read it , or did you choose to ignore it ?

2) "Sex services are ..."lightly" intimate between humanbeings". That includes that their quality depend on the humanbeings (and so their "feelings") involved.

Imagine this scene :
Client : how much ?
Lady : 50
- So expensive !! I propose 30
- ....
- OK, how about 33 ?
- ..
- OK for 35
- ..
- 35 is my last price
- OK

The client may have very good services but if ever the services are not really good , I won't be really surprised.

I think that there is more chance ( that does NOT mean 100%) to give better service if the lady , to get the same income, has to "serve" three clients instead of 20 a day.
( It was said that this lady, in spite of her high rates , had one meeting a day , and that (1 per day) was already too much for her :
[url]http://bentleysoflondon.com/cgi-bin/gallery/index.cgi?action=detail&id=523&gallery=s[/url] )

By the way, you wrote " X don't see between cheap and expensive" , not me !!

I just conceive that there are people who look for cheap rates and those who look for "reasonable high quality" even if they will have to pay more. There are people who look for 20 minutes meeting and others who look for 2 days meeting .. etc ..

Let's realize that people's needs may be very different (fortunately ?)

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]

Bez,

You like poles.

You alterate me to make a point for humor only ?

[/QUOTE]

Yes of course I realize everybody's needs are different.
If everyone wants the same thing the world isnt very
interesting, is it?

I don't even know what polemics is!
Opposites? Or half polish and half irish?
Well, I don't like it. :)

Hi there, a newbie question, both Hungary and Czech Rep. joined EU in the same time and both are of similar geographical distance to the West. Both countries' economics progress is similar as well (therefore girls' incentive to be in adult business should be similar). So why is it that Prague seems to have much more mongering options than Budapest? Is there something I'm missing? Or is it because Prague's more accesible to the West therefore attracts more horny foreign bastards? Despite more web presence of escorting in Prague, which city is a better option? For freebies and pros? Are there FKK style of clubs in Budapest? Thansk.

[QUOTE=CharlieH]Hi there, a newbie question, both Hungary and Czech Rep. joined EU in the same time and both are of similar geographical distance to the West. Both countries' economics progress is similar as well (therefore girls' incentive to be in adult business should be similar). So why is it that Prague seems to have much more mongering options than Budapest? Is there something I'm missing? Or is it because Prague's more accesible to the West therefore attracts more horny foreign bastards? Despite more web presence of escorting in Prague, which city is a better option? For freebies and pros? Are there FKK style of clubs in Budapest? Thansk.[/QUOTE]

My personal opinion is :

1) globally, Prague was "better" before being a member of EU

2) the "sex activities" are more "normal" than in Budapest : much more agencies in Prague than in Budapest.

3) In many activities (not only sex activities) , globally in Budapest foreigners are seen as a bank much more than in Prague

Hi, can someone provide escorting links in Budapest? Agency and independents(apartment girls). Thanks.

I've found zuzana.com but prefer to have more options.

I can't remember the place but it is near a 24hour internet cafe and a Mc Donalds are about 3 blocks away (Tropical something)

A friend of mine and I went to Budapest for a week in the summer. The bath houses were fun, but not much else.

I read on here about all the scams, but he met a bellhop who said that a place was "a great place" yadda yadda, so we went. Low and behold it turned out to be a mafia spot.

From what I have learned you know them because the guys that run it sit downstairs and try to recruit people, they are also very close to an ATM.

I saw the drink charge and said I didn't want a drink, and so did my friend, but the waitress brought out two drinks, I immediately told the owner that I didnt' want them, and he said "no problem" so I thought everything was okay. But I got that spookie "I'm about to be jipped feeling". So we both get up to leave. The guy downstairs won't let us leave, and one gentleman bolts the door from the outside!

So choices are:

fight with 2 guys, maybe win, maybe lose, but the door is still bolted.
pay 200 euros for no beers and no p4p.

Oh and the price for full action was 400 euro per girl.

Next time, Costa Rica!