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[QUOTE=CuriousGeorge5; 1439979]Of the times I've been to Ceasar the ladies were not exactly young. I keep sending them back but the next one is not much better. In the end I all too often just settle on 'that will do'.

Why can't Ceasars or other saunas have the setup like in Singapore where the girls are all in the fish tank and you at least get to see who you choose.

Actually are there such arrangements in Taipei? If so would like to go some time.

Cheers,

CG[/QUOTE]The only time I ever get a line up in Taiwan is at one of the Linsen KTV's. You go in your room and you get a line up of drinking girls, which some are working girls and others are not.

Too expensive if you are comparing to Caesar's pricing.

I have to be careful not to diverge too many details but I have been going to one of these Linsen Road. KTV's for a long time with my business connections.

It's always the same with these WG's. Take back to hotel, pay for way too many hours and get one shot. Last night, though, one of the girls must have really liked me because I was offered a second round during the hotel session. I know the general rule is even with a 4 hour session, you are allowed one round, so to be offered a second round with no extra cost was way too cool.

She was late 20's. It will be interesting to see if I can convert her to see me outside the house because I know the KTV's have pretty strict rules against it.

Also, I finally got a young attractive girl from Yuki's. I complained that I never get anyone young, skinny and Chinese. It's been all in the 30's and skinny but this time, I got a very cute Taiwanese girl (about 27 or so) from Yuki. 6K girl for 5K. I think it was worth it over the 3. 5K or 4K girls I have been getting from Yuki. Next time, I will ask for the same type from Yuki and see if she delivers again or will I have to complain again. Problem with Yuki's girls is that most will leave before the 45 minute session is up. Only one had a good connection with me and stayed long enough to get buzzed repeatedly by the driver. I think if you repeat enough with Yuki, you can start to demand better quality, much like how Rag can get what he wants from his providers. It's still more expensive to play the game here in Taiwan but it can be interesting, thats for sure.

[QUOTE=CuriousGeorge5; 1439977]For some a are and t may be the only way to make them cum. I have heard storys from service providers that because some gents are too fat to have sex, as hard as that sounds.

Again these are just the intel I've heard but I totally agree with you that I would rather poke her pussy. But have found of late I am finding it difficult to track down the 3000 pussy however and have to settle for 4200 + 100 at ceasers.

Would love to hear any more value for money options for fellow punters.

Cheers,

CG[/QUOTE]Yuki's offers 3.5k service. You just have to tell her that's what you are going to pay as a regular. It's random and sometimes you get southeast Asian girls, but its available.

[QUOTE=CuriousGeorge5; 1440114]Here here, Great advice from Airlinecrew. I followed this procedure sometime ago except I was using yahoo and got myself 3 lined up ready to go by the time I got back to Taiwan. Problem was, as AC pointed out, it's hard work. I can be fun, the thrill of the chase so to speak. Now, in my older days where I don't have the energy to go chasing, I rather just pay $$$ and know I'll at least I'll get laid, because whilst they be considered freebies, the amount of time and effort grooming them, it's not exactly free plus the uncertainty of touch down or not in the end zone. Of the 3 I did manage to get one touch down. Decided to focus all my attention on this one chic thinking I'll have a better chance of success (and I turned out I did)...[/QUOTE]Hahaha. As much as we call them freebies. They are never free, are they? Time is money, so I guess you really have to look at the value proposition.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42; 1440391]Finally reached the 1000th mark, now I am nowhere near as prolific as Freebiefan or AG Gallant, but hopefully I have been informative and helpful. This happened a few days ago but was saving this for this landmark.

Began to push in and out in miss for a long time enjoying how tight she was and every few seconds she would pulse squeeze me.

She admitted that I was getting better and began to relax a bit. So I pushed my luck and got her to get on top of me. She sat on me while I massaged those gigantic breasts and drilled her while she had an expression of pain. Made her get down on all fours and tired to do her from the back but she totally refused saying it hurt too much. 3 more attempts and I decided to turn her over and get on top of her again. Another few minutes and I could not hold it any longer. Since she seemed to be really ignorant of birth control I shot a huge load onto her stomach and massaged myself between her legs for a while after letting us both remember the moment.

She slowly gn even if offered, at least I won't pay for it. If a girl offers it to me I won't say no, but paying what I did for it was not something I would do again.

Cheers and here is looking forward to my next 1000.[/QUOTE]Congrats on both "scores". I can appreciate the pushing description. Last Manila trip I had a virgin also 18. She wanted to lose it but wasnt willing to do much work to help except kiss me endlessly. Lots of pushing and screwed up faces, etc. Then when we had finished she was all smiles.

The virgin that I had before her, was amazing tho. Once she had lost it, its like a switch was flicked, as she wanted to try everything she had ever seen in a porno movie.

I look forward to the next 1, 000 posts. From the foremost contributor to Taipei ISG.

[QUOTE=Raj29; 1439992]Here is the thing. HJ is cleaner and lower risk. That is my reason. You can wrap yourself with condom, but it is no protection to genital herpes and warts. If you get either you will have a lot of explaining to do. Poking a disease pussy can get you both on the base of your penis and the population you sample your sweetness from is already at higher risk.

Practically nothing can pass from hand. Even if she has warts on the hand. Also, some of the HJ specialist are so good that makes poking pussy unnecessary for me. But this is a matter of personal preference.

I hobbied extensively in US via FBSM and BBBJ only. I have not tried BBBJ in taiwan, but I can say that the HJ techniques of some of the Taiwan Thai massage places are excellent. They also charge only about 1/2 cost of what they charge in US, and I get twice as long of a massage.[/QUOTE]I think another part of this is a lot of the P2P rush you through your session. After hobbying in the bay area for a bit, I've come to realize how good it was it there. My experience from hobbying in different countries, is that if you pay for an hour, you're lucky to get 20m of actual intercourse. With all the AAMPs around the bay, the competition is enough so that you at least get 1 good pop. If you take longer to pop, you get rushed, pressured for more money, or the session is just cut short in my experience. Another facet to this is that I also enjoy a good massage. From your previous posts Rag, you don't like that part but to each their own. The way I count is is I get a massage and a bit of play for half the price of a full on session.

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42; 1440391]Finally reached the 1000th mark, now I am nowhere near as prolific as Freebiefan or AG Gallant, but hopefully I have been informative and helpful. This happened a few days ago but was saving this for this landmark.

Have been working on this for a few months, I had asked my provider who sent me the Russian girl and other high quality girls for a virgin and finally she called me back and told me she found one. She asked for an obscene amount of money but I decided I would since I had a little left over from my bonus. Was really nervous and excited and wondered how any girl who was cute could be a virgin...[/QUOTE]A Big congratulations to Ragnarok42 on your massive achievement. I can only dream one day that I may reach such a milestone. Big congratz!

CG

[QUOTE=ChinoLoco93;1440428]Hahaha. As much as we call them freebies. They are never free, are they? Time is money, so I guess you really have to look at the value proposition.[/QUOTE]Exactly! If I may elaborate on my so-called freebies experiences. I do not mean to tread on anyone else toes and these are purely from what I have experienced.

Hunting ground: Yahoo and AFF site. (At that stage I wasn't aware the new site mentioned now)

Lead time: 2-3 months before my trip back to Taiwan. It literally took months! Of pampering and wooing them. And it's not like a once a week thing either. It was more like a daily thing. Almost like as if you would be chasing a proper gf. Sometimes I was more than once a day. It even got to the extent that my 'real' life was getting re-organized just so I can meet the needs of these chicks.

Actual time in Taiwan: Maybe this is where my experience differs from other punters. I don't live in TW merely got back to visit relatives and family therefore the maximum time I spend in Taiwan is like 2-3 weeks. Therefore after all the time I've spent laying the ground work I only have a maximum harvest time of 2-3 weeks. Had I lived in Taiwan more on a permanent basis then the 2-3 months lead time won't seem to be such a big investment upfront with no promise of visit to the holy land.

More work: All the months of ground work beforehand only gets you to a date / outing with them. From that point on, more wooing, talking out to dinners / lounge bars / basically anything fancy. I easily spent $20k showing her a good time all with the anticipating of scoring. This is just for one girl. I had to make the hard decision of letting some of them go quite early one as I simply didn't have enough time nor money to wager campaign on all 3 fronts. So I chose the hottest of the 3 and the one who was most responsive during our interaction.

Touch down: I am glad to report that all the hard work did pay out, the night just before I was about to leave! So I didn't even get to bonk her repeatedly.

Pros: Hotter girls, exciting experience, thrill of the chase.

Cons: Investment with no definite payout. Lots of work.

Conclusion: will do again if I go back for a longer period of time, at 2 weeks it's just a bit too short, the cost vs benefit don't add up.

Anyway. That's my ramble.

Cheers,

CG

[QUOTE=Ragnarok42; 1438711]Ever get hit on by your own mamasan?

Started to talk to one of my providers and she started to talk a lot (about 30min) and I got the distinct feeling that she was hittting on me. My other provider has been sending me pics of her and she aint half bad, I would do her good to repay her back for the many times she has "fucked me", haha.

Any brothers actually sleep with their providers before?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Rag, many of us (and I speak for myself here) don't have the resources to actually have a provider. I guess we need to create a new acronym to use for you. "PILF"; Provider I'd Like to Fuck!

[QUOTE=CuriousGeorge5; 1440725]Actual time in Taiwan: Maybe this is where my experience differs from other punters. I don't live in TW merely got back to visit relatives and family therefore the maximum time I spend in Taiwan is like 2-3 weeks. Therefore after all the time I've spent laying the ground work I only have a maximum harvest time of 2-3 weeks. Had I lived in Taiwan more on a permanent basis then the 2-3 months lead time won't seem to be such a big investment upfront with no promise of visit to the holy land.

More work: All nor money to wager campaign on all 3 fronts. So I chose the hottest of the 3 and the one who was most responsive during our interaction.

Touch down: I am glad to report that all the hard work did pay out, the night just before I was about to leave! So I didn't even get to bonk her repeatedly.

Pros: Hotter girls, exciting experience, thrill of the chase.

Conclusion: will do again if I go back for a longer period of time, at 2 weeks it's just a bit too short, the cost vs benefit don't add up.

CG[/QUOTE]Despite enjoying my Taipei travels and travails immensely, I can share some of your frustration. In my two years there I bonked endless Filipinas in Hsinchu and some in Banqiou, but in all my 2 years there, there were only a few Taiwanese. They are the most sexually conservative girls in all Asia. Well maybe on a par with their stick thin materialistic cousins from HK.
The rest of Asian girls including China, seem to enjoy sex and don't need a lot of prompting to get naked, but Taiwan.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. What do they put in the water ??

Hello all,

I just booked a little travel time (4 days. 3 nights). I haven't booked a hotel yet so I was wondering if there were any recommendations on area and or hotel to stay so I can get the best bang for my buck. One that doesn't look down upon (possibly) bringing different girls on different nights for a while.

I'll be reading more in this thread for research but booking hotel is a better to do sooner rather than later kind of thing.

Thanks for the help and, it goes without saying but, any experiences will be reported.

[QUOTE=CuriousGeorge5;1440725]Exactly! If I may elaborate on my so-called freebies experiences. I do not mean to tread on anyone else toes and these are purely from what I have experienced.[/QUOTE]I think we need to seperate freebies into two catagories: 1. The type where we have legit relationship with, I mean care for them like a girlfriend / lover and 2. The type we use cunning or calculation to bed without regard to emotional attachments.

The first catagory, since we do enjoy being with them and form emotional attachments with, sex is a by-product but not the sole purpose of the chase.

The second of course is where we go in with the premise of screwing them without regard to long term effects or even their feelings. Wining and dining them becomes a real burden since the more we spend the more we want pussy.

Now I cannot say how each brother approaches freebies and each case is unique, but most if not all mine start with the first catagory. Which explains why when each of them ends I get my heart ripped out.

If most of our freebies are catagory 2, then it might be easier and more economical to just pay a fee and hope to turn the good ones into paybees. You spend a lot less time and money in the long run with those if all you want is a roll in the hay.

Right before I went on vacation I got a girl new to the trade. 18YO little thing with D cup breasts. Had a super sugary voice that was weird with what she was doing to me. She said I was her first customer and I could believe it, nicely shy but no virgin. Unlike my first encounter she knew how to BBBJ and even gave me an ass rimming when I offered it to her.

She allowed DFK and DATY which seemed to get her even hornier. After numerous positions and lots of mutual screaming, I could tell she was up to some experimenting so I got bold and lay on my back. Taking off my condom I made her BBBJ me again nice and long. I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she didn't mumble no (kinda hard to speak as you can imagine) or pull back, so I pushed it into high gear and holding her head in place I blew my entire load into her sweet voiced mouth. I saw it dribbling out of her mouth but she didn't scream at me but said it tasted funny. And she didn't mind licking it clean a few minutes later, think I have created a cum eater, haha.

She kept on being shy about it but I could tell she liked our sex saying that I was "more sexed" then her old boyfriends and agreed to exchange Line contacts. She is well on her way to be one of my pay bees, THAT is how U-turn them brothers. Make them feel comfortable with you and cum harder than any boy before in their lives and you have access to that pussy in the future.

So I've been reading through the posts before mine and I've noticed a trend. Acting like people who are visiting Taipei don't exist. RingTFF is of course standard policy (as shown by Freebie's appropriate reaming out MissingIt) but It seeming that even one's who put I. The extra leg work get ignored (unless I missed a response somewhere) like this:

[QUOTE=Funman13; 1398695]I am visiting Taipei on May 10th for seven days. It will be my first time in Taipei since 1999. At that time I wasn't mongering yet. So it will be fun to be in the big city again. I have read over 30 pages and here's what I learned (I need help) :

/list of findings/

So, it is all the average tourist can enjoy?[/QUOTE]I realize that most of the people in this thread are living in Taipei, but no advice for those of us visiting and want an update on the situation?

As to my particular concern, haven't any of you taken a girl to a hotel and it looked like a place you wouldn't mind staying a few nights? Or had some buddies visit and where they stayed was decent enough that it would work for someone who wants to contribute to the forum?

I know there are more than a few one posters and don't leave any reports after but that's not my plan.

On a side note congrats Ragnarok on the 1000th, quite an achievement and quite a report!

Went to Ceasers around 3 on Sunday and it was a little confusing at first. It was pretty much as everyone else described except for the asking a mamasan in the beverage room for a massage. When I went there, there was no mamasan so I dicked around for a bit until one appeared (I think 30m) and then went up with her. Had a session with #1 and it was pretty good albiet rushed at the end. Not even 10m of penetration before being rushed to finish. Overall I liked her and enjoyed the session. She was really animated and had great tits. They're pretty soft but still fake. She was probably naturally already decently endowed before enhancement.

My question here though is if the next time I go, should I just go up there by myself or do I really need to wait for a mamasan?