Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3068208]If you were in Pattaya, you would be shocked at the number of empty bars.[/QUOTE]And still I was turned away last night when I saw a huge screen in the first bar in Treetown showing Champion league live. They asked me what I wanted and I said "watch football" and they said "no have maybe you can try the next bar". Well I went to the bar across. Ended up playing bar games and buying ladydrinks to girls and forgot football.

But I guess some bars have too many customers even they seem empty.

[QUOTE=MarkGarden;3068268]The gentleman's club I went to was pretty quiet. I found a little chubby girl with big boobs that seemed surprised I wanted her vs the others. I thought she was cute and she gave me a stellar performance overall![/QUOTE]During my recent 80-day holiday I spent quite a bit of time in the gentleman's clubs. I often had the same experience as Khun Garden when I asked one of the girls to join me for a drink: surprise and delight. Naturally I figured the girls were chuffed because I am such a hansum man. ;-) But I suspect the truth is they sit around for hours on end waiting for somebody to walk in the door. Moreover, in those GCs where the girls approach unbidden they probably get knocked back again and again. When a gent arrives and singles them out it's just human nature to be pleased.

I could tell that even the girls who played it cool were happy to have a live one on the line. So I tried to be a good customer. Showed up well groomed, neatly dressed, breath minty fresh. Quickly offered to buy a lady drink. Let the girls take the lead during the pregame warmup with regard to kissing, clothing and the handsy stuff. In the rare case where I made the real time call to tap out, I did so with a rueful smile and a couple hundred baht in hand, then changed bars so the girl wouldn't lose face. If we did take it to next level, I got what I came for without pressuring or embarrassing the girl, and cheerfully paid her asking price.

We talk about the girls' amazing ability to remember customers, and how they share information via the Coconut Telegraph. I theorize that goes double when it comes to GCs, especially those that are clustered in one area like Soi Boomerang or Soi Bong Koch 8. If the girls are going to talk about me behind my back, I'd like them to speak well.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3068239]Shocked why? Everybody knows there is a glut of bars, massage shops, weed shops, tattoo shops, etcetera here. The only thing that shocks me is that people keep throwing their money away on that bullshit. Grand opening; grand closing.[/QUOTE]Been saying it for years! More money than brains and add that to the ego's! But to each their own! I'm glad they are stupid enough to continue to open them gives us all something to experience before it closes. This also keeps the balloon chasers happy?

There is this farang owner he must have so deep pockets, I think the building is brought by him through a Thai, he has had this bar / building for sometime, from passing it is his 3rd attempt to renovate the place, each time he barely gets a customer a week? Girls are outside playing with their phone, talent isn't anything to stop for, This time he is doing renovation to the entire building I see the pool table is still there so my assumption it is going to continue to be a bar?

These cases are usually money laundrying etc.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;3068475]And still I was turned away last night when I saw a huge screen in the first bar in Treetown showing Champion league live. They asked me what I wanted and I said "watch football" and they said "no have maybe you can try the next bar". Well I went to the bar across. Ended up playing bar games and buying ladydrinks to girls and forgot football.

But I guess some bars have too many customers even they seem empty.[/QUOTE]Bars in high traffic areas may have plenty of business year-round. But there aren't many of those.

And it is true that bars in low traffic areas do poorly in Low Season every year. The question is the quantity of customers in the lower traffic areas like Soi Chaiyapoon, Sois 7 and 8 and similar places.

About once a month, I walk down Soi Chaiyapoon to see the new bars, there's always at least one new bar every month. I was shocked this month to see "new" bars that have already closed.

BTW, there has been a quasi-scam going on since Covid concerning bars: a guy will open a new bar at the start of High Season, and in January sell it to a sucker. By June 1, the bar is empty, and the sucker can't give it away, the rent is too high to ever make a profit.

Hello,

I'm thinking about heading out this way in a few months and wondered what the freelancer scene was like. I've seen a bunch of videos on YT showing some stunners heading into the clubs and walking around on Walking Street. How much should I expect them to ask for? Short time? Long Time? How long is each type of session? Clearly new to the Thailand scene. Thanks for any help and guidance.

[QUOTE=OhioTraveler20;3068909]Hello,

I'm thinking about heading out this way in a few months and wondered what the freelancer scene was like. I've seen a bunch of videos on YT showing some stunners heading into the clubs and walking around on Walking Street. How much should I expect them to ask for? Short time? Long Time? How long is each type of session? Clearly new to the Thailand scene. Thanks for any help and guidance.[/QUOTE]Freelancer scene: Nightclubs (the dancing type) are stock full of freelancers from 1 am - 6 am. Beach road is full of bottom dollar street meat every single night. Dating apps is stock full of freelancers. Pattaya is probably top 3 globally when it comes to sheer volume of freelancers.

Cost: It varies widely. For bottom dollar street meat on Beach Road and some dating sites = 1500 baht (plus / minus 500). For nightclub freelancer = 2000 baht (plus / minus 1000). These are all ST. I have zero experience negotiating LT upfront. I get LT organically after a solid ST session. In that case, I will normally add another 1000 - 1500 baht. LT is extremely complex for a first timer to the scene in Pattaya. A good portion of these ladies have some sort of mental or life issues so trying to have her stay with you for 6+ hours with multiple sessions is a recipe for disaster and waisted time. LT is great when you have chemistry and it is all mutual. Money can't buy chemistry.

Cost. Honrable Mention: I left out Gogo, bar, GC ladies since most of them are not technically freelancers since they work out of an establishment. Cost there also varies from 1500 - 6000 baht. Some ladies that are smoking hot (instagram model types) that already have a few European sponsors that still work at Gogos will be highly highly selective if they even still dabble in outside work. These types will be 4000 - 10000 baht.

How Long: ST is normally one pop. Maybe 1-2 hours. LT is all night and they normally leave in the morning or afternoon. Another caution on LT in the rare case you find one that you have great chemistry with. It might be challenging to get her up and out of your room before noon. A problem if you have shit to do or just want to be alone.

How much should I expect them to ask for: Depends. How do you look, how old are you, how are you groomed, Is she attracted to you, Does she have 1 or more sponsors already helping her out monthly, how does she look, what time of the day or night is it. I think you get the picture. I would be prepared to spend 2000 - 5000 baht depending on many factors.

[QUOTE=SwashBuckler77;3068967]Freelancer scene: Nightclubs (the dancing type) are stock full of freelancers from 1 am - 6 am. Beach road is full of bottom dollar street meat every single night. Dating apps is stock full of freelancers. Pattaya is probably top 3 globally when it comes to sheer volume of freelancers.

Cost: It varies widely. For bottom dollar street meat on Beach Road and some dating sites = 1500 baht (plus / minus 500). For nightclub freelancer = 2000 baht (plus / minus 1000). These are all ST. I have zero experience negotiating LT upfront. I get LT organically after a solid ST session. In that case, I will normally add another 1000 - 1500 baht. LT is extremely complex for a first timer to the scene in Pattaya. A good portion of these ladies have some sort of mental or life issues so trying to have her stay with you for 6+ hours with multiple sessions is a recipe for disaster and waisted time. LT is great when you have chemistry and it is all mutual. Money can't buy chemistry.

Cost. Honrable Mention: I left out Gogo, bar, GC ladies since most of them are not technically freelancers since they work out of an establishment..[/QUOTE]Good info but a few questions. I like sessions that are multi pop. The first two pops sex (covered) and the two more BBBJCIM. I like 3 hour sessions. (I'm 71 and yes 4 pops not a problem).

I like to spend a lot of time going down on her. I like my pussy bald and I want to get rimmed. So for all this activity doing I just ask for ST and then once I the room ask her to stay longer and ask her how much more she wants? Or before going to room lay it all out for her and ask her how much? I should ask if rimming is OK and is CIM OK? And is she shaved? Money isn't no a problem as I am used to paying far more in NYC. TY.

A guy was in town a couple weeks ago and I was showing him around during his first day. He did not like the aggressiveness of Soi 6 and he was not feeling the gentlemen's clubs. I turned him on to Thai Friendly and that was his thing. He would get chicks to come over for 1500ST. That first night I was tired and did not go back out. The next morning he told me he had gone out to Walking Street and hit a few of the discos. He said he took a chick back to the hotel with him on his way in. I asked if she was still there and he said no. He had given her 1500 for an hour and a half. I thought it a bit strange, because 100% of the time that I have gotten a chick at the disco it has been for LT. It does not even need to be discussed; that is just how it works. But he did say that he does not like for them to stay.

So then he sent me a video from the back of when she was leaving. I said that is one hell of an outfit, because I have never seen any chicks at the discos dressed like that (in some sort of leather outfit). He said the outfit was what drew his attention to her outside of 808. That night we were meeting up at 1 am in front of 808. I was there first, so I got a few sticks of barbecue. When he came up, he immediately saw the girl and pointed her out. They were making goo goo eyes and giving the call me sign back and forth. Except that was no girl. I told him that was a dude. He said there was no way that was a dude. I said do you see all these people lined up in front of us? They are all guys. And no chick dresses like that and prances around flamboyantly trying to draw attention to themselves. I did not say anything else about it. FYI: When you see a SW on Walking Street she will be standing there stationary and maybe playing with her phone. She will not be looking into a mirror, playing with her hair, scantily dressed, or prancing around!

All this time I have thought that guys are full of shit when they have asked how to tell the difference between a woman and a dude dressed as a woman. To me it is pretty obvious, but evidently it is not so obvious to some people, even after they have spent an hour and a half with one. This guy was not the type (that I know of) who would do that kind of thing and I seriously doubt he would have proudly announced his conquest as he did had he actually known it was a dude. So I am sorry for thinking you guys who can not tell are full of shit.

A couple of days later, I was riding down Soi Honey and had to stop because of traffic in front of me. Some ladyboy came up and slapped me on my back. That shit stung for like 5 minutes. So for guys that can not tell, here is another thing you can add to your arsenal when you are not sure. Just have the person pat you on the back. If it is a lady then you will hardly feel it. But if it is a dude, then you will surely know. Those mfs do not know their own strength and are generally stronger than a dude who is not dressed as a woman.

My buddy wanted to go to the beach on the island the next day. I told him that it would be best to find a chick when we are at one of the discos and when he takes her with him to advise her that he wants her to go to the island with him in the morning. Then stop by her place to get her clothes before they go in. He thought that the beach would be crawling with chicks and there was no need to do that. I told him it does not work like that here. Trust the process.

So we hit a few discos. We stayed at 808 for a while. Then we walked through ibar / Insomnia, Myst, Republic, Flexx, before settling for a while at Tunnel. Whenever I walk through these discos I am always stopping to get the Line or WhatsApp of chicks that I like. About 4:30 am I was ready to take it in because I would have to get up at 9 am so we could get the 10 am boat to the island. I messaged one of the chicks I had met at Myst to come stay with me. She was still inside of the club so I told her I would wait outside for her. She asked how much I would give her and I said 1500. She asked if I could give her 2000 and I said no. She said okay I am coming. Later on she confirmed that I would give her 1500 baht per day.

I told her that we would go to the island the next day and she was like okay. She came out and we went to her place on the darkside. I sat on the couch in the lobby while she went up to get her things. It was taking her a long ass time. I thought maybe she had fallen asleep or something. Then she comes down with this big ass bag of stuff like she planned on moving in with me. I said what is all this bullshit? I was barely able to close my trunk.

We got to my place and took showers then fucked. It was 7 am by then. She said she was hungry and wanted to get some food. I said are you out of your fucking mind? We have to wake up in 2 hours, so just get something when we leave. She kept pestering me about eating, but I just ignored her and fell asleep. On the way to the pier I stopped at my street chicken place and got enough for 4 people. I had them put it back into the grease to double fry it and make it hot. We got to the pier at 9:45 and my buddy had not shown yet so I bought the tickets for the ferry (30 baht / person). I am like dude where the hell are you. The boat does not wait. He finally got there but he did not have a girl with him. Oh well.

We got to the boat just in time and I rationed out the chicken. He was on videocall with his mom talking about the Knicks and telling her he did not know the chicken would be that good. I do not know why people have such a hard time trusting me. I had bought like 16 pieces for 180 baht. After all that hungry stuff the chick was saying before bed, she did not even want any chicken. She said the ice coffee she had gotten at 7 was good enough. We got to the island and took the baht bus to Tien Beach, 40 baht / person.

We trekked to my usual spot and got 3 chairs under the umbrellas for 100 baht each. I went to the bar to get a cocktail, but the chick did not want anything. Two teenage boys were running the bar. I was speaking with them in Thai and they saw my Thai drivers license and thought I was Thai. They asked were I was from and I said Bangkok. They really got a kick out of that.

We left in time to get the 5 pm boat back to the mainland. When we got to the room at 6 pm I told old girl she could shower first. When she came out I went in. When I came out she was in the bed. I was like what the fuck because I was ready to take her home. But instead I got in the bed and we fucked and fell asleep. We woke up at 11 pm and I told her I would take her home. She was definitely ready to stay. I thought to myself that the chick had really been cool so I would break her off 2000 baht. I dropped her home and she was like where is my 1500 baht. I scanned her phone and sent 1500 baht to her account.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3069207]So then he sent me a video from the back of when she was leaving. I said that is one hell of an outfit, because I have never seen any chicks at the discos dressed like that (in some sort of leather outfit). He said the outfit was what drew his attention to her outside of 808. That night we were meeting up at 1 am in front of 808. I was there first, so I got a few sticks of barbecue. When he came up, he immediately saw the girl and pointed her out. They were making goo goo eyes and giving the call me sign back and forth. Except that was no girl. I told him that was a dude. He said there was no way that was a dude. I said do you see all these people lined up in front of us? They are all guys. And no chick dresses like that and prances around flamboyantly trying to draw attention to themselves. I did not say anything else about it. FYI: When you see a SW on Walking Street she will be standing there stationary and maybe playing with her phone. She will not be looking into a mirror, playing with her hair, scantily dressed, or prancing around!

All this time I have thought that guys are full of shit when they have asked how to tell the difference between a woman and a dude dressed as a woman. To me it is pretty obvious, but evidently it is not so obvious to some people, even after they have spent an hour and a half with one. This guy was not the type (that I know of) who would do that kind of thing and I seriously doubt he would have proudly announced his conquest as he did had he actually known it was a dude. So I am sorry for thinking you guys who can not tell are full of shit.
[/QUOTE]Your friend's 'lady' has the shoulders of an NFL star quarterback. Even if he did not know that she was a he when he picked her up outside 808, surely, he noticed her equipment was not standard issue for women when he fucked her in his room. Is your friend a heavy drinker who doesn't remember getting pegged by a ladyboy like Stu from 'The Hangover Part II'? Difficulty in identifying a clothed ladyboy is one thing. Fucking and nutting in a ladyboy or getting nutted in by a ladyboy, still not knowing that they are a ladyboy, and making googly eyes at them later is a whole other thing. LOL!

Senior mongers give some advice to this young padawan about their best spots. The usual pricing, scams that happen and any contacts for genuine pimps / girls, hotels, etc. I am a first time monger in Bangkok.

I am roughly staying 3 weeks. Which places should I visit and for how long?

Open to joint mongering also.

[QUOTE=Godse;3069324]Senior mongers give some advice to this young padawan about their best spots. The usual pricing, scams that happen and any contacts for genuine pimps / girls, hotels, etc. [/QUOTE]Would you just pop into a stock trading forum and say hey everybody give me the best stocks to trade and when should I buy and sell and how much should I invest in each? Then expect people to actually do it? Do some research and find things that may appeal to you personally. My best spot may be full of fat ugly old chicks. Would you be happy if I sent you there and said you will love this place?

[QUOTE=Godse;3069324]Senior mongers give some advice to this young padawan about their best spots. The usual pricing, scams that happen and any contacts for genuine pimps / girls, hotels, etc. I am a first time monger in Bangkok.

I am roughly staying 3 weeks. Which places should I visit and for how long?

Open to joint mongering also.[/QUOTE]RTFF.

But, yes, go Pattaya. After you check in to your hotel, walk out the door.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3069359]Would you just pop into a stock trading forum and say hey everybody give me the best stocks to trade and when should I buy and sell and how much should I invest in each? Then expect people to actually do it? Do some research and find things that may appeal to you personally. My best spot may be full of fat ugly old chicks. Would you be happy if I sent you there and said you will love this place?[/QUOTE]I am apprehensive of falling for scams.

[QUOTE=Godse;3069324]Senior mongers give some advice to this young padawan about their best spots.[/QUOTE][B]Soi 6[/B]

[QUOTE=Godse;3069324]The usual pricing, scams that happen and any contacts for genuine pimps / girls, hotels, etc.[/QUOTE]Prices range all over the place. Once you give an idea of the venues and hotels you like, people can give you answers. Please note there is also a Thread covering hotels.

[QUOTE=Godse;3069324]I am a first time monger in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]This is the [B]Pattaya Reports[/B] thread.

[QUOTE=Godse;3069324]I am roughly staying 3 weeks. Which places should I visit and for how long?[/QUOTE]Spend as long as you like, in the places you like.