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I think they will almost always tell you their sexual gender before going back to the room with you or if you spend any serious amount of time with them. That's for the own protection too so they don't find themselves with a disgruntled and potentially violent partner. That's been my experience. Also, you can take the initiative if you have any doubts.

However, I remember once being in a go go bar in NEP and met this really petite and cute girl. I did not not BF because I just in the end I only wanted to have a drink. Later I found out this bar had both GG and LB and this particular one fell into the latter category. Maybe I would have found out but who knows.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2607179]What? OMG, is nothing sacred? I would have thought a girl under 100 pounds would be pretty safe.

OK, is there any definitive way to tell? I know the voice often gives it away, and I've heard something about the elbow not bending as much in men. I also think their female mannerisms tend to be exaggerated. But it stinks that I can't be sure what gender human I am taking back to my room. I actually like ladyboys as they are generally fun to talk to, but I don't want to have sex with any.

Will they be honest if you ask directly? Probably not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2607362]I think they will almost always tell you their sexual gender before going back to the room with you or if you spend any serious amount of time with them. That's for the own protection too so they don't find themselves with a disgruntled and potentially violent partner. That's been my experience. Also, you can take the initiative if you have any doubts.

However, I remember once being in a go go bar in NEP and met this really petite and cute girl. I did not not BF because I just in the end I only wanted to have a drink. Later I found out this bar had both GG and LB and this particular one fell into the latter category. Maybe I would have found out but who knows.[/QUOTE]LB's are no big deal in Asia. Just give the girl a feel test or ask if she is a LB. GG will react one of two ways. One is of shock. The others will be flattered that you thought they are so beautiful!

Beware of the LB that says she is a GG on her period and can give you a BJ.

Most LB in Asia look so feminine. The western ones scare the hell out of me with their 5:00 shadow.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2607375]LB's are no big deal in Asia. Just give the girl a feel test or ask if she is a LB. GG will react one of two ways. One is of shock. The others will be flattered that you thought they are so beautiful!

Beware of the LB that says she is a GG on her period and can give you a BJ.

Most LB in Asia look so feminine. The western ones scare the hell out of me with their 5:00 shadow.[/QUOTE]What is GG? Is that a post-op girl?

I appreciate that the post-op girls consider themselves women and I don't want to step on that or be rude, but there are physical differences that can affect the enjoyment for the guy, so I think they should be honest about it. I personally also find it a bit disturbing, but then I also find big fake breasts fairly disturbing. So maybe I just don't like self mutilation. But I do like tattoos and piercings, so maybe I just like what I like. Mongering is hard work.

So I almost forgot to post the most important thing. Bangla Rd was closed last night and apparently will be closed for 1-2 weeks, depending who you believe. I heard there were too many videos online of people without masks all smashed up against each other, but that was from some street girl, so take it for what it's worth.

This is quite disappointing because Tuesday night had the best collection of girls I've seen yet, both in terms of quality and quantity. It was a definite uptick in opportunity and most of the girls were sitting alone.

What stinks for me personally is I was supposed to meet that pixie last night. She sent me a message at 7:00 saying, "Bangla is cold tonight. " I thought this was some tropical woman's take on a slight ocean breeze or something, but I guess she meant "closed." I got there and her bar was closed so I sent her a message. I started walking towards Nanai Road with the idea to go to the nuru place, but then she called me and said she would meet me anyway after her dinner by the Patong Beach sign. I knew this was a bad idea because Thai girls have no sense of time and don't mind blowing you off, but I said yes anyway thinking that worst case I go home in an hour and message a girl to come to my room. Of course she never showed up, and then I couldn't find anyone free to come see me. It was all a bit of a bummer, but I know those nights happen.

OK, given last night's debacle, I went to the nuru place today with the idea that I was assured to have a lady on top of me at some point.

I got there and there were only 3 girls available. Two were in their early 40's I imagine, and the 3rd came in at the last second looking annoyed and like she hated the look of me. But she had a pretty face. I generally feel like I don't want to pay for a girl that I might be able to hook up with in a bar, so I went with the late 20's girl even though I had concerns about her attitude.

We got upstairs and it started out a little uncomfortable as she was showering and cleaning me, but she slowly warmed up and started smiling a lot. I just tried to be nice and make little jokes with her. The shower part was fine but nothing special. We went to the bed and she did the back massage first with the towel on, then removed the towel and squirted on the warm nuru and started massaging my legs, working her way up. Then she did my back and did the body to body sliding. She turned me over and did the same for the front of my legs, but never made it to my chest. She pretty much went straight to BJ with decent action. The experience was definitely helped by her eyes looking at me the whole time -- really beautiful eyes and face. I started touching her and she was really wet so I asked about sex. She said 1000 more, which I would have payed, but she asked if I had a condom. I didn't so that nixed that whole thing. Maybe she didn't want to do it, who knows. She finished the BJ well, except she kept jerking the tip after I finished, which was a bit sensitive.

Overall, I would repeat, but I'm not sure I got the whole nuru experience. And I think she wasn't very experienced with the other part. She has only worked there one month and hasn't done sex work before. She said her parents and friends at home don't know what she does for money.

She did offer to come to my hotel sometime for sex, so we exchanged lines and maybe that will lead to more than BJ. But I'm not counting on it given the events of the last week. It's pretty crazy how unreliable these girls are given how much they are supposedly suffering. Is it a control thing? I could understand that. They have to sell their bodies, so they jerk people around a bit so they feel like they are in control? Maybe not, but that would be pretty classic.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2607544]What is GG? Is that a post-op girl?

I appreciate that the post-op girls consider themselves women and I don't want to step on that or be rude, but there are physical differences that can affect the enjoyment for the guy, so I think they should be honest about it. I personally also find it a bit disturbing, but then I also find big fake breasts fairly disturbing. So maybe I just don't like self mutilation. But I do like tattoos and piercings, so maybe I just like what I like. Mongering is hard work.[/QUOTE]GG is a Genuine Girl.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2607590] They have to sell their bodies, so they jerk people around a bit so they feel like they are in control? Maybe not, but that would be pretty classic.[/QUOTE]I think its more low education and a lack of relationship experience that leads to it. A typical thai girl only has 1 BF throughout high school and often beyond. And TIT, logical thinking isn't taught or encouraged for anyone. Most can't grasp that they should act different (as in be more customer friendly) to make more money because they are in tough times. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 in Thailand LOL.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2607587]So I almost forgot to post the most important thing. Bangla Rd was closed last night and apparently will be closed for 1-2 weeks, depending who you believe. I heard there were too many videos online of people without masks all smashed up against each other, but that was from some street girl, so take it for what it's worth.

This is quite disappointing because Tuesday night had the best collection of girls I've seen yet, both in terms of quality and quantity. It was a definite uptick in opportunity and most of the girls were sitting alone.

What stinks for me personally is I was supposed to meet that pixie last night. She sent me a message at 7:00 saying, "Bangla is cold tonight. " I thought this was some tropical woman's take on a slight ocean breeze or something, but I guess she meant "closed." I got there and her bar was closed so I sent her a message. I started walking towards Nanai Road with the idea to go to the nuru place, but then she called me and said she would meet me anyway after her dinner by the Patong Beach sign. I knew this was a bad idea because Thai girls have no sense of time and don't mind blowing you off, but I said yes anyway thinking that worst case I go home in an hour and message a girl to come to my room. Of course she never showed up, and then I couldn't find anyone free to come see me. It was all a bit of a bummer, but I know those nights happen.[/QUOTE]This photo from a Bangla Road bar shows why they had to close the bars again.

They are totally pushing the relaxed rules allowing them to stay open, and the people attending were publishing how bad it was.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2607590]It's pretty crazy how unreliable these girls are given how much they are supposedly suffering. Is it a control thing? I could understand that. They have to sell their bodies, so they jerk people around a bit so they feel like they are in control? Maybe not, but that would be pretty classic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2608122]I think its more low education and a lack of relationship experience that leads to it. A typical thai girl only has 1 BF throughout high school and often beyond. And TIT, logical thinking isn't taught or encouraged for anyone. Most can't grasp that they should act different (as in be more customer friendly) to make more money because they are in tough times. 2+2 doesn't equal 4 in Thailand LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree with IHeartIpa, but there is more to Thai unreliability than that. In USA I have several Thai friends, while some are reliable, about half are totally unreliable. Part of their culture is to live for this moment and don't worry about the future. If you make plans with a Thai woman at 5:00 and she is having fun with an unrelated activity at 4:30, it's unlikely that she will stop her fun activity to be with you. If this happens multiple times, you might tell her about the problem, but she is likely to tell you that you need to be more flexible. Similarly, if she is bored at 3:00 she just might come to meet you right then.

These observations are made based on my non-P4P friends in USA. The reliable ones have done well in their work and family situations, but (surprise) the unreliable ones have histories of losing jobs and repeated failed relationships.

It’s not surprising that these problems are amplified in the P4P world.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2608211]This photo from a Bangla Road bar shows why they had to close the bars again.

They are totally pushing the relaxed rules allowing them to stay open, and the people attending were publishing how bad it was.[/QUOTE]I figured it was something like that. To be honest, I always entered the bars with my mask on, but then felt stupid as the only person with it on. It's also hard to talk or drink with it on. So I would end up taking it off. I wonder how many other people there are like me.

But people take them off in restaurants everywhere and I don't see much difference. In restaurants, people put them on when they arrive or get up to leave, but the rest of the time they are off. It's just a matter if you are willing to accept that amount of risk. If you aren't, then restaurants should also be closed. I wore mine walking up and down bangla, but most people did not.

During the day one time some European lady yelled at me because my mask was off my nose. It was really hot that day and I was breathing in my nose and out my mouth so I felt like I wasn't suffocating. I looked around and literally 50% of people around us had no mask on. I have no idea why she singled me out but I had to stifle saying something pretty rude to her. I am very pro mask, but this is obviously a really tough situation.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2608341]I agree with IHeartIpa, but there is more to Thai unreliability than that. In USA I have several Thai friends, while some are reliable, about half are totally unreliable. Part of their culture is to live for this moment and don't worry about the future. If you make plans with a Thai woman at 5:00 and she is having fun with an unrelated activity at 4:30, it's unlikely that she will stop her fun activity to be with you. If this happens multiple times, you might tell her about the problem, but she is likely to tell you that you need to be more flexible. Similarly, if she is bored at 3:00 she just might come to meet you right then.

These observations are made based on my non-P4P friends in USA. The reliable ones have done well in their work and family situations, but (surprise) the unreliable ones have histories of losing jobs and repeated failed relationships.

Its not surprising that these problems are amplified in the P4P world.[/QUOTE]That does make some sense. I am fine with it happening once. If it happens twice, I won't deal with it unless I have a history with the person. One girl was at a friend's birthday, so she messaged to say she would be late. What I didn't like was me messaging two hours later and her saying she was waiting for a taxi and two hours later she never shows up. So she lied about waiting for a taxi.

I was supposed to meet a girl last night and she messaged 20 minutes before the date saying she had her period. OK, that happens, but just 20 minutes before the date? LOL, seems unlikely. But I will certainly give her and the taxi girl another chance because they are beautiful. But I'm not going to have a bunch of evenings blown up dealing with that sort of person. I am also working and only have some nights free.

So I got to Chalong yesterday and was supposed to see a particular girl, but she cancelled at the last moment (see last post). So I went to dinner at the pier restaurant and then walked back to my condo. Along the way, I decided to stop at the one bar that seemed to have any girls in it. As soon as I sat at the bar, a girl plopped down beside me and started leaning on me (I don't like that when I first meet someone) and asking me to buy her a drink. She was cute, but a little chunkier than my preference, but I agreed to buy her a drink because I was horny after the lost date. There were some more girls playing pool with a guy, so I asked if we could join them. The guy was from France and the girls were all nice enough. I took a liking to one of the other girls who was also a bit chunky, but had dark skin and a pretty face. The first girl was kinda all over me, but we were playing pool and I had opportunities to talk to the girl I wanted. I think the first girl took the hint because she invited my preferred girl to sit with us. I bought more lady drinks than I normally do so it ended up being the most expensive evening I've had in Thailand so far. I won't do that again.

Anyway, I ended up taking the one girl home. Her name was Um and she actually works at a bar in Rawai, but she came to Chalong for the night. 2000 for long time was agreed, plus I said I'd give her taxi money home since she lost her ride with the French guy and her two friends. We showered and that part was nice. She was affectionate and wanted to kiss a lot. We got in bed and I kissed her back and neck and then rolled her over and DATY until she was worked up. She then gave me a BBBJ, which was ok, but probably the least good of the ones I've had in this Thailand visit -- a little toothy and she squeezed too tightly with her hand. Then we moved to covered cowgirl and again she was very affectionate with French kissing and we did that for a long while before switching to missionary, ending with a CIM finish. She came back to bed and we were both tired (I didn't get much sleep the last few nights) and we slept like logs until late in the morning. I usually don't sleep very well the first time I'm with someone, but I did this time, interrupted occasionally with her wrapping herself around me.

I'm not sure if I would repeat or not. I liked the GFE aspect of it, but her body was probably a 6 and the rest was probably a 7. I think she might be one of those girls I would repeat if I saw her and I was horny, but I wouldn't seek her out. She what is me to come see her at the Bank bar in Rawai. We'll see.

Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.

- The Novotel in Kamala falls right in budget and gets decent reviews. Anyone here with 1st hand experience? Last we were in phuket (Nov'19 enroute to Lanta) I noticed that the whole kamala area was one big construction site. Its probably still the same? Does it interfere?

- Kata vids on youtube are showing Kata as totally dead.

- Sandbox rules say I need to be in Phuket for 7 days before I can move, and hotel would need to issue release certificate? (wow) Stating guest have stayed for 7 nights / days.

Here is the problem. Out flights arrive at 7 am, so arrival day will be counted as day1 quarantine. However, our stay in Phuket I would like to ideally keep for exactly 7 days, which would mean 6 nights in a SHA+ hotel. Would these 6 nights /7 days be an issue? Does it need to be 7 nights before we can move hotels?

Thanks a ton folks! If its all good Ill post some follow up questions.

Best!

[QUOTE=Meisme;2608752]Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.

- The Novotel in Kamala falls right in budget and gets decent reviews. Anyone here with 1st hand experience? Last we were in phuket (Nov'19 enroute to Lanta) I noticed that the whole kamala area was one big construction site. Its probably still the same? Does it interfere?

- Kata vids on youtube are showing Kata as totally dead.

- Sandbox rules say I need to be in Phuket for 7 days before I can move, and hotel would need to issue release certificate? (wow) Stating guest have stayed for 7 nights / days.

Here is the problem. Out flights arrive at 7 am, so arrival day will be counted as day1 quarantine. However, our stay in Phuket I would like to ideally keep for exactly 7 days, which would mean 6 nights in a SHA+ hotel. Would these 6 nights /7 days be an issue? Does it need to be 7 nights before we can move hotels?

Thanks a ton folks! If its all good Ill post some follow up questions.

Best![/QUOTE]Check out Karon Sea Sands Resort at Karon beach. Was there in 2019 (BC) with my wife. Had a room with pool access, very nice and just a short walk to the beach. Plenty of resturants and massage places. Quieter than Patong but much more action than Kamala or Kata.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2608754]Check out Karon Sea Sands Resort at Karon beach. Was there in 2019 (BC) with my wife. Had a room with pool access, very nice and just a short walk to the beach. Plenty of resturants and massage places. Quieter than Patong but much more action than Kamala or Kata.[/QUOTE]Hey mate! Thanks a super! The problem with karon/kata is that they seem abandoned as of early this month.
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