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[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1316838]The answer is, both.

At 911, everyone is fair game; dancers, waitresses and hostesses. The higher up the management scale you go, the more it will cost you.

For a dancer. 12, 000 &1088; &1091; &1073; . For an hour is about right. For one of the hostesses, it could be 20K &1088; &1091; &1073; . Or more. That should include everything, including the room. If they ask more money for the room, then you might want to think twice about that. IMHO.

This assumes that you use one of the rooms at the club.

I think just about every strip club in Moscow offers an &1091; &1074; &1086; &1083; &1100; &1085; &1077; &1085; &1080; &1077; (oo-vohl-NYEN-I-ye). That's Russian for dismissal. This is how it works: the club will agree to "dismiss" a girl for an hour or 2, or maybe even the rest of the night, in exchange for a payment up front, so that you can take her back to your hotel (or apartment). At the average strip club it's about 10, 000 &1088; &1091; &1073; . For an hour or 2, but at a place like 911 it could be 20K or more. And that's just what you pay to the club. You still have to negotiate with the girl separately for her time.

So, if you're talking about taking one of the hottest babes in 911 back to your hotel for the rest of the night, you're looking at 40K or 50K &1088; &1091; &1073; , for both the club and the girl. (about 1, 200 to 1, 500 USD).

Hopefully you can just write it off as "client entertainment".

The other possibility is to arrange to meet one of the girls in the club, outside of the club, at some other time. It's not a sure thing, but it's significantly less expensive.

&1091; &1076; &1072; &1095; &1080; &1074; &1072; &1084; [/QUOTE]Thank you Strav.

I'm in moscow next week for 2 days. If I'm planning to bang aurora hottie in the spot (not taking her to the hotel) for an hour, how much it is going to cost me? I understood its 8000 for the stripper and 4000 for the room (about 400$) , I'm I right? And with the entrance fee, drinks it is going to be about 600-700$ damage?

Could you tell me if kissing and DATY is alowded?

Thanks in advance, Ronaldinjo

[QUOTE=Prosal;1316849]Just to say that every princess needs a prince, no matter what she does for a living.[/QUOTE]Prosal,

That's wonderful. But the rest of us commoners still need to pay. :)

Ronald,

You are over-thinking this too much, it's not rocket science.

If you are only in Moscow for a couple of days, you won't have much chance to meet anyone, so a place like 911 is your best bet. Take plenty of money with you, and go have a good time.

If there are any specific services you need, then just ask the girl up front and she can tell you, one way or the other.

That's it.

Generally speaking, the best part is what you [b]didn't[/b] Plan for.

[QUOTE=Prosal;1316849]. Just to say that every princess needs a prince[/QUOTE]Sometimes the princess settles for a frog.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1317228]Prosal,

That's wonderful. But the rest of us commoners still need to pay. .[/QUOTE]Well, I remember that Pyzdiets talked about some of his success stories (freebies) with strippers in Moscow. It's not really surprising, if you show some empathy, self-restraint and personal attention. Those girls deal night after night with boorish sex-weaned guys, and are usually happy to find someone who don't treat them like pieces of meat.

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo; 1316429]At 911 Aurora, Loft or Penhous is there possibility to pick up the girls to the hotel or the action is already in the club?

1 H sex 12. 000 Rub with kissing and bbj and DATY or you should pay extra?

Thank you boys[/QUOTE]Hi Ronaldinjo,

Sorry for the slow reply. It was a wild weekend. Saturday night was Beach Party Night at "The Hungry Duck". They brought in about 1, 000 cubic meters of sand and dumped it on the floor. Then they put in a half dozen kiddie pools and gave everyone squirt guns. I know it all sounds a bit juvenile, but by 3:00 AM every girl had a wet t-shirt. Good clean fun with plenty of hook-ups. The Duck is getting to have a reputation of being a great weekend "hook up" bar on weekends.

But I digress. The answer to you questions is, yes 12, 000 rubles sounds about right of an hour onsite. Yes, that includes BBBJ and most girls will let you DATY but it's best to ask during the interview to avoid disappointment. Aurora has only 2 rooms on site whereas LOFT and Penthouse have something like 16 rooms EACH for such activities. All I am saying is that if you hit Aurora on a busy night, you might have to wait a while to get a room.

Have fun.

Jake

[QUOTE=Prosal;1317255]Well, I remember that Pyzdiets talked about some of his success stories (freebies) with strippers in Moscow. It's not really surprising, if you show some empathy, self-restraint and personal attention. Those girls deal night after night with boorish sex-weaned guys, and are usually happy to find someone who don't treat them like pieces of meat.[/QUOTE]Actually, I think that was me. And I think Dr. Skank dated a stripper for a while but I may be wrong. Pizdyets DID NOT LIKE strip clubs AT ALL and pissed and moaned every time we went to one. In fact he was quite down on strippers all the way around.

But yes, you are correct. It's surprising how much GFE you can get from a dancer by treating them nicely.

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1317452]Hi Ronaldinjo,

Sorry for the slow reply. It was a wild weekend. Saturday night was Beach Party Night at "The Hungry Duck". They brought in about 1, 000 cubic meters of sand and dumped it on the floor. Then they put in a half dozen kiddie pools and gave everyone squirt guns. I know it all sounds a bit juvenile, but by 3:00 AM every girl had a wet t-shirt. Good clean fun with plenty of hook-ups. The Duck is getting to have a reputation of being a great weekend "hook up" bar on weekends.

But I digress. The answer to you questions is, yes 12, 000 rubles sounds about right of an hour onsite. Yes, that includes BBBJ and most girls will let you DATY but it's best to ask during the interview to avoid disappointment. Aurora has only 2 rooms on site whereas LOFT and Penthouse have something like 16 rooms EACH for such activities. All I am saying is that if you hit Aurora on a busy night, you might have to wait a while to get a room.

Have fun.

Jake[/QUOTE]Thank you very much Jake. Glad to see you back, hope you will have a lot of such weekends in the future. Did you hear about strip club "egoist", have you been there? I read that it could be the strip club with hottest girls aroun, is it true? It more expensive? What do you think about it?

With respect,

Ronaldinjo

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1317452]Hi Ronaldinjo,

Sorry for the slow reply. It was a wild weekend. Saturday night was Beach Party Night at "The Hungry Duck". They brought in about 1, 000 cubic meters of sand and dumped it on the floor. Then they put in a half dozen kiddie pools and gave everyone squirt guns. I know it all sounds a bit juvenile, but by 3:00 AM every girl had a wet t-shirt. Good clean fun with plenty of hook-ups. The Duck is getting to have a reputation of being a great weekend "hook up" bar on weekends.

But I digress.[/QUOTE]Stay with the digression, Jake! It was just getting interesting!

The Tanuki

Hello everyone!

Sorry to bother you with a question that probably comes often here. But could not find the answer so far.

I have been to Moscow 10 years ago, found a lot of interesting informations on this site. Above all the idea of renting an appartment for a week instead of going to the hotel.

I found here a linke to a site called Debra which offered a lot of appartments for a reasonable price.

Now This site doesn't exist anymore, could you please advise me a site which is offering flats for rent in Moscow for a short period?

Spasibo bolshoe in advance!

[QUOTE=Ronaldinjo; 1317545]Thank you very much Jake. Glad to see you back, hope you will have a lot of such weekends in the future. Did you hear about strip club "egoist", have you been there? I read that it could be the strip club with hottest girls aroun, is it true? It more expensive? What do you think about it?

With respect,

Ronaldinjo[/QUOTE]I have only been to Egoist once and that was probably 2 years ago.

It's located in the Peking Hotel building (as are Manhattan Grill and Radio City Grill).

From what I can remember the girls were EXTREMELY HOT.

Unfortunately, I can't remember much about prices. My guess that they are in the same range as LOFT, Aurora, etc.

[QUOTE=The Tanuki; 1317550]Stay with the digression, Jake! It was just getting interesting! .

The Tanuki[/QUOTE]Did I mention that we went to Petrovich BEFORE The Duck? It was full of the usual 28-32 year old girls looking for love on a Saturday night. We got there about midnight and truth be told, we should have gotten there a little earlier to get a spot at the bar. Oh well, that's life. The dance floor was jammed and there were a lot of Russian guys who were VERY drunk so we decided to move over to the Duck and avoid getting clobbered. We made a good choice as it seems the local boys can sometimes take exception to foreign dudes hitting on their women from time to time.

[QUOTE=Jake993;1317845]Did I mention that we went to Petrovich BEFORE The Duck? It was full of the usual 28-32 year old girls looking for love on a Saturday night.[/QUOTE]I like the demographic of that bar. Petrovich. Does anyone know of an equivalent in Kiev?

It seems to me that most of the hot bars / clubs are filled with a younger crowd, which is not exactly my target market.
The older girls mostly seem to be pros, which can be okay, but by then they have a lot of miles on them.
30+ MILFs looking to brighten up a Saturday night is exactly what I am looking for! (Minus the drunken gopniks, of course!)

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1317946]I like the demographic of that bar. Petrovich. Does anyone know of an equivalent in Kiev?[/QUOTE]Petrovitch does have a branch in Kiev. Nonetheless, I don't know if it also turns to club at night.

[url]http://www.petrovichclub.kiev.ua/[/url]

Admitedly, all the talks about nightlife in the Kiev thread always turn around the same three or four venues. As if Kiev wasn't a city of 2,7 millions people, with hundreds of bars and clubs. (rolleyes)

[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel;1317946] (Minus the drunken gopniks, of course!)[/QUOTE]
Gopniki don't have access to Petrovitch, which is a private club, and where you need the patronage of two members to get a card (or to be accompanied by a member to get in). The drunk guys Jake talked about were rather inebriated and boorish wealthy russian men in their 30s or 40s. Russians are usually nice people, but they can go from jovial to berserk in a heartbeat. Especially when they're drunk.

[QUOTE=Jake993; 1317844]I have only been to Egoist once and that was probably 2 years ago.

It's located in the Peking Hotel building (as are Manhattan Grill and Radio City Grill).

From what I can remember the girls were EXTREMELY HOT.

Unfortunately, I can't remember much about prices. My guess that they are in the same range as LOFT, Aurora, etc.

Sorry for asking too many questions Jack, but you are my man in moscow and I really apreciate your help. What about borthel girls (those that you wrote down in your previous posts) line from Fantasys and etc, are the pics real? What are the prices and if it is possible to invite a girls to the hotel from there?

With respect,

Ronaldinjo