Phuket Reports

[QUOTE=Meisme;2608752]Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the hotel situation as I only know where I have stayed and don't know the smaller areas well. But I can say something about the covid tests. You are supposed to be tested on day 6 or 7 of the sandbox, so you would just need to set up your scheduled test for day 6. Where you might run into an issue is getting your certificate on day 7. I took my 2nd test on day 14 and I didn't get my certificate until day 16. Fortunately, I was staying a few extra days, so it wasn't an issue. That said, I don't think anyone is going to check and, if they do, I think you can explain. You could then maybe have your first hotel send the certificate to the 2nd hotel by email or whatever. I moved to another town and nobody checked to see if I had a sandbox certificate. I'm in a condo so maybe a hotel will check, but I think you can explain the situation if it doesn't arrive in time. I also had some trouble because my hotel booked my tests for me, so the slowness of my certificate may have been caused by me not being in the system. They had to make a phone call to find me each time I went for a test.

[QUOTE=Meisme;2608758]Hey mate! Thanks a super! The problem with karon/kata is that they seem abandoned as of early this month.
This guys been uploading street vids regularly now.. bee helpful. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T597K7sLTBI[/URL].[/QUOTE]So a little more reading and recent travel blogs seem to suggest that NaiHarn and Rawai are pretty much up and about as usual. Which is great, cause we have never explore Phuket that down south! And I'm reading that NaiHarn is a reall nice beach.

I'm still struggling to find an in budget SHA+ property which I'm liking. Its all a bit pricier it seem in the south. The NaiHarn is expensive, but maybe I can splurge if convinced its worth it. Even though I am looking at resorts (mostly for a decent pool), we're always wary of resorts / chains. Having stayed extensively for work, there is always that element of cheesy instead of classy that often creeps in. Like restaurant or pool entertainment in the evenings.

The NaiHarn beach resort (Not the Nai Harn) seems like the best bet around here. Unless there is something in Rawai.

I'm reading the picking are good in Rawai too? I'm hoping ill get a couple of afternoon or late night soujourns during my stay. Lets see how that goes.

Best!

I met a girl from TF today in Chalong, but she is from Rawai. I will leave out her name, but message me if you want it.

I got her name shortly after arriving in Thailand and a couple times she messages me in Patong and asked to see me at the last second. I was out or busy both times, so I had to decline. I made the date for 8 pm today, but she messaged at 2:30 and asked if I was free earlier because she was in Chalong. I said I could do 4 and she agreed. It was like 4:08 and I sat my phone down on the kitchen table and sat on the sofa figuring I would have to wait. I expected my phone to chime when she messaged but for some reason it didn't and I guess she message 3 times saying she was here before I saw it at 4:15. She kept sending? When I got downstairs, she was outside looking pissed. If looks could kill, I would be dead. It was a tense elevator ride upstairs. I considered calling it off because anger is about the biggest turnoff to me. But I remembered the nuru situation the other day and decided to roll with it.

WE sat and drank for about 45 minutes before anything happened. I'm glad we did because she relaxed and opened up. She's the most interesting girl I've talked to here. Very quick and forward, definitely not the dimwitted type. We retired to the bedroom after we both had a bit of a buzz and it started pretty quickly. She pulled me over and kissed me pretty hard, but with no tongue, mouth closed. She was really aggressive and was grabbing my head hard as I kissed her neck and nipples. She wrapped her legs around me as I moved down to lick her. But she stopped me and said no to that, so we went on kissing and rolling around for a bit. She was grabbing dick hard, but somehow not hard enough to hurt. I kept expecting her to hurt me because she was so aggressive and seemingly careless with it, but it never happened. It then seemed like it was time for a BJ, but she shook her head and said no BJ without condom. I said, "Really? I've never not received a BBBJ." I decided to just go with it because I really had no choice. The BJ wasn't very good, especially with the condom on, but the rest of the situation was good enough that I was enjoying myself. She then climbed on top of me and started enthusiastically bouncing up and down on me. Very sexy and she looked great. We then went to doggy and again she looked great, very enthusiastic and aggressive. No shyness in pounding back into me. Switched to missionary and and began kissing again. She was just clawing at me, biting me and her arms and legs were all over me. We did this a while and I finally finished when she moved her legs onto my shoulders and we were really going at it. She then roughly yanked off the condom (be careful! Took it to the bathroom, and proceeded to break my toilet. LOL. She was a wrecking ball.

We then talked about the whole safe sex thing. She said she just did her regular tests and was waiting for results so she never allows DATY or BBBJ when she is waiting for results. I guess I understand that (if it's even true), but I wish I need ahead of time. That said, this was the most different sex session than I have ever had with anyone, even in the non-punting world. I've never been with someone that aggressive and frantic. I've definitely had plenty of passionate sex, but this was different. Hard to describe the feeling. Maybe she didn't find me attractive and she was trying to have things happen fast, but it didn't feel that way. The sex really seemed to mirror the personality she displayed while we were talking -- up front, no nonsense, direct). I don't think I would repeat given the bad BJ and all the restrictions. On the other hand, it was so different that I want to repeat. She said we could do more next time and she said she would do long time, so I might just do it. She was fun to talk to, so worst case it's some nice company for the night and I get to have unusual sex.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2609072]I met a girl from TF today in Chalong, but she is from Rawai. I will leave out her name, but message me if you want it.

I got her name shortly after arriving in Thailand and a couple times she messages me in Patong and asked to see me at the last second. I was out or busy both times, so I had to decline. I made the date for 8 pm today, but she messaged at 2:30 and asked if I was free earlier because she was in Chalong. I said I could do 4 and she agreed. It was like 4:08 and I sat my phone down on the kitchen table and sat on the sofa figuring I would have to wait. I expected my phone to chime when she messaged but for some reason it didn't and I guess she message 3 times saying she was here before I saw it at 4:15. She kept sending? When I got downstairs, she was outside looking pissed. If looks could kill, I would be dead. It was a tense elevator ride upstairs. I considered calling it off because anger is about the biggest turnoff to me. But I remembered the nuru situation the other day and decided to roll with it.
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[/QUOTE]I submit that her usual service level is pretty bad. Based on the details you cited it sure seems like it (no DFK, no BBBJ, etc).

However, it was the fact that you inadvertantly "ignored" her messages and, shockingly, kept a Thai girl, a Thai hooker at that, waiting 15 WHOLE MINUTES that put a little fire under her butt to throw herself into it with passion, perhaps one of the reasons she eventually pulled off the condom. Good lord, when I think of the hours we wait past the agreed upon time to meet these ditzy girls.

She had something to prove. You inadertantly had "told" her you were too busy perhaps (in her mind) with other younger, better looking girls on Line to hop to instantly to read and reply to her repeated messages.

For 15 whole minutes she had every reason to suspect she had been forgotten, canceled and abandoned by you for a Better Deal girl who would then get almost an average Thai week's pay if not more for 60-90 minutes of her time instead of her.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2608602]So I got to Chalong yesterday and was supposed to see a particular girl, but she cancelled at the last moment (see last post). So I went to dinner at the pier restaurant and then walked back to my condo. Along the way, I decided to stop at the one bar that seemed to have any girls in it. As soon as I sat at the bar, a girl plopped down beside me and started leaning on me (I don't like that when I first meet someone) and asking me to buy her a drink. She was cute, but a little chunkier than my preference, but I agreed to buy her a drink because I was horny after the lost date. There were some more girls playing pool with a guy, so I asked if we could join them. The guy was from France and the girls were all nice enough. I took a liking to one of the other girls who was also a bit chunky, but had dark skin and a pretty face. The first girl was kinda all over me, but we were playing pool and I had opportunities to talk to the girl I wanted. I think the first girl took the hint because she invited my preferred girl to sit with us. I bought more lady drinks than I normally do so it ended up being the most expensive evening I've had in Thailand so far. I won't do that again.

Anyway, I ended up taking the one girl home. Her name was Um and she actually works at a bar in Rawai, but she came to Chalong for the night. 2000 for long time was agreed, plus I said I'd give her taxi money home since she lost her ride with the French guy and her two friends. We showered and that part was nice. She was affectionate and wanted to kiss a lot. We got in bed and I kissed her back and neck and then rolled her over and DATY until she was worked up..[/QUOTE]Hahahaha.

I probably drove past you on my way home last night. LOL.

[QUOTE=BlueBus;2608754]Check out Karon Sea Sands Resort at Karon beach. Was there in 2019 (BC) with my wife. Had a room with pool access, very nice and just a short walk to the beach. Plenty of resturants and massage places. Quieter than Patong but much more action than Kamala or Kata.[/QUOTE]Karon is dead, a ghost town.

Avoid it totally.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2608600]That does make some sense. I am fine with it happening once. If it happens twice, I won't deal with it unless I have a history with the person. One girl was at a friend's birthday, so she messaged to say she would be late. What I didn't like was me messaging two hours later and her saying she was waiting for a taxi and two hours later she never shows up. So she lied about waiting for a taxi.

I was supposed to meet a girl last night and she messaged 20 minutes before the date saying she had her period. OK, that happens, but just 20 minutes before the date? LOL, seems unlikely. But I will certainly give her and the taxi girl another chance because they are beautiful. But I'm not going to have a bunch of evenings blown up dealing with that sort of person. I am also working and only have some nights free.[/QUOTE]Thai girls are unreliable, totally.

Like all Thai's they live in the moment, and they react and decide what to do in the moment.

Once you accept that, and live the same way, it all makes some sense.

Also, you have to consider Thai'ness.

Thais will do and say anything to avoid losing face, being embarrassed or proven wrong.

If they can't do what you want, they will still say yes in some way, and then often just not do it, IE the taxi.

You can then blow them off if you wish, but the next Thai girl will likely be the same.

But, if you accept it, and just try again next time, then often that or the third time works a charm.

To me this is why TF girls contacted online and made dates with are such a let down.

You can never be sure they will turn up as other things and events can get in the way.

It's why I always picked up girls in the here and now moment, in a bar, or a massage.

Leaving with them, as if you're in their face and space, they focus on you, and stay focused.

Using even LINE to catch up is fraught with danger of no shows, sleep ins, whatever's.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2609072]I met a girl from TF today in Chalong, but she is from Rawai. I will leave out her name, but message me if you want it.

I got her name shortly after arriving in Thailand and a couple times she messages me in Patong and asked to see me at the last second. I was out or busy both times, so I had to decline. I made the date for 8 pm today, but she messaged at 2:30 and asked if I was free earlier because she was in Chalong. I said I could do 4 and she agreed. It was like 4:08 and I sat my phone down on the kitchen table and sat on the sofa figuring I would have to wait. I expected my phone to chime when she messaged but for some reason it didn't and I guess she message 3 times saying she was here before I saw it at 4:15. She kept sending? When I got downstairs, she was outside looking pissed. If looks could kill, I would be dead. It was a tense elevator ride upstairs. I considered calling it off because anger is about the biggest turnoff to me. But I remembered the nuru situation the other day and decided to roll with it.

WE sat and drank for about 45 minutes before anything happened. I'm glad we did because she relaxed and opened up. She's the most interesting girl I've talked to here. Very quick and forward, definitely not the dimwitted type. We retired to the bedroom after we both had a bit of a buzz and it started pretty quickly. She pulled me over and kissed me pretty hard, but with no tongue, mouth closed. She was really aggressive and was grabbing my head hard as I kissed her neck and nipples. She wrapped her legs around me as I moved down to lick her. But she stopped me and said no to that, so we went on kissing and rolling around for a bit. She was grabbing dick hard, but somehow not hard enough to hurt. I kept expecting her to hurt me because she was so aggressive and seemingly careless with it, but it never happened. It then seemed like it was time for a BJ, but she shook her head and said no BJ without condom. I said, "Really? I've never not received a BBBJ." I decided to just go with it because I really had no choice..[/QUOTE]I'm laughing so hard at this.

Rule one with Thai girls, get them off the past, and into the present with you.

They too often have a short temper and a short term focus, don't feed the former, and concentrate on getting them past the latter.

[QUOTE=Meisme;2608913]So a little more reading and recent travel blogs seem to suggest that NaiHarn and Rawai are pretty much up and about as usual. Which is great, cause we have never explore Phuket that down south! And I'm reading that NaiHarn is a reall nice beach.

I'm still struggling to find an in budget SHA+ property which I'm liking. Its all a bit pricier it seem in the south. The NaiHarn is expensive, but maybe I can splurge if convinced its worth it. Even though I am looking at resorts (mostly for a decent pool), we're always wary of resorts / chains. Having stayed extensively for work, there is always that element of cheesy instead of classy that often creeps in. Like restaurant or pool entertainment in the evenings.

The NaiHarn beach resort (Not the Nai Harn) seems like the best bet around here. Unless there is something in Rawai.

I'm reading the picking are good in Rawai too? I'm hoping ill get a couple of afternoon or late night soujourns during my stay. Lets see how that goes.

Best![/QUOTE]Everything you could want is in Naiharn and Rawai.

Patong is good, but the beaches south are better, and the vibe more relaxed.

When they raided Patong and closed Bangla they left Rawai alone.

[QUOTE=Meisme;2608752]Hello all and hope all you folks doing well!

I hope it is not rude to be a long time lurker, semi retired mongerer asking for some travel advise from boots on the ground.

Me and the Mrs. Travel to Phuket first week Nov. If I will be having some fun on the side it would not be with blessings! But that not my main concern of this post.

After getting my head round the upcoming 7+7 sandbox rules (still confused on some aspects), I can't figure where to stay. Any help would be appreciated.

Looking for a hotel / resort with a great pool and beach access to keep the wife happy, ideally modern design. We never stay in Patong, too loud and concrete for the both of us. But we do still want some life around, restaurants and stuff, and not be confined to the resort.

- The Novotel in Kamala falls right in budget and gets decent reviews. Anyone here with 1st hand experience? Last we were in phuket (Nov'19 enroute to Lanta) I noticed that the whole kamala area was one big construction site. Its probably still the same? Does it interfere?

- Kata vids on youtube are showing Kata as totally dead.

- Sandbox rules say I need to be in Phuket for 7 days before I can move, and hotel would need to issue release certificate? (wow) Stating guest have stayed for 7 nights / days.[/QUOTE]Hold tight on everything you're planning.

The sandbox is changing and it's "likely" to drop to just 7 days.

Announcements are imminent on clarifying all this.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2609217]I submit that her usual service level is pretty bad. Based on the details you cited it sure seems like it (no DFK, no BBBJ, etc).

However, it was the fact that you inadvertantly "ignored" her messages and, shockingly, kept a Thai girl, a Thai hooker at that, waiting 15 WHOLE MINUTES that put a little fire under her butt to throw herself into it with passion, perhaps one of the reasons she eventually pulled off the condom. Good lord, when I think of the hours we wait past the agreed upon time to meet these ditzy girls.

She had something to prove. You inadertantly had "told" her you were too busy perhaps (in her mind) with other younger, better looking girls on Line to hop to instantly to read and reply to her repeated messages.

For 15 whole minutes she had every reason to suspect she had been forgotten, canceled and abandoned by you for a Better Deal girl who would then get almost an average Thai week's pay if not more for 60-90 minutes of her time instead of her.[/QUOTE]She didn't get there until 4:10, so I only kept her 5 minutes.

But yeh, her initial cold reaction nearly made me send her packing. In her defense, when I asked if she was mad, she said no and that was her normal face and people think she is mad a lot. But these things matter and, like I said, anger will quickly turn me off completely. The fact that we had a really nice chat for 45 minutes and she seemed quite different from other Thai girls I have met is the only thing that saved the session. She was a bit of a strange bird, for sure. The actual fucking was fantastic, but all the side stuff of foreplay and intimacy was really not there. On the other hand, the conversation was open and intimate. Repeating is a tough call.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2609246]Hold tight on everything you're planning.
The sandbox is changing and it's "likely" to drop to just 7 days.
Announcements are imminent on clarifying all this.[/QUOTE]Yes. I'm planning our trip around this expectation.

I've got our flight done to phuket. But no hotels yet. The whole sha+ situation really is strange.

I am expecting it to change for the better too! Worst I loose a small deposit on flights.

If anyone around has chanced a look. Are the scuba dive shops in business?

And is there anything stopping me from renting short time rooms while I'm around (even during the quarentine period)? I would imagine the girls to not have their own appartment available?

Cheers!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2608816]I can't speak to the hotel situation as I only know where I have stayed and don't know the smaller areas well. But I can say something about the covid tests. You are supposed to be tested on day 6 or 7 of the sandbox, so you would just need to set up your scheduled test for day 6. Where you might run into an issue is getting your certificate on day 7. I took my 2nd test on day 14 and I didn't get my certificate until day 16. Fortunately, I was staying a few extra days, so it wasn't an issue. That said, I don't think anyone is going to check and, if they do, I think you can explain. You could then maybe have your first hotel send the certificate to the 2nd hotel by email or whatever. I moved to another town and nobody checked to see if I had a sandbox certificate. I'm in a condo so maybe a hotel will check, but I think you can explain the situation if it doesn't arrive in time. I also had some trouble because my hotel booked my tests for me, so the slowness of my certificate may have been caused by me not being in the system. They had to make a phone call to find me each time I went for a test.[/QUOTE]Thanks super mate! May I ask how much do the tests cost? I'm reading 350 bht at someplace called. Phuket checkpoint (dunno if means airport checkpoint or island checkpoint), to 8000 bht (We are in phuket for 15 days. So test on arrival, day 6 and day 13 (Day 8 change hotels / island (and hopefully remain uninfected! .

Bummer if you test positive on day 14 of a 15 day trip. Hmmm.

[QUOTE=Meisme;2609431]Thanks super mate! May I ask how much do the tests cost? I'm reading 350 bht at someplace called. Phuket checkpoint (dunno if means airport checkpoint or island checkpoint), to 8000 bht (We are in phuket for 15 days. So test on arrival, day 6 and day 13 (Day 8 change hotels / island (and hopefully remain uninfected! .

Bummer if you test positive on day 14 of a 15 day trip. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]I forget the exact cost, but I think I remember it being around $220 for the 3 tests total. It's not insignificant.

So this happened last night. I got a Line message from someone requesting that I add them. It looked like some professional guy in the little pic, so I thought it was the realtor I gave my Line ID to. I add him and open it to find that it is not the realtor. I look at a couple of the pics and I can see it's some guy with the girl I met at sweetie's bar and hung out with a few times (no sex). I was planning to see her when I got back to Patong. I knew she had an ex-boyfriend, so I was pretty put off to be messaged by some girl's ex, especially with my line of work and family situation.

So I sent the girl I met a quick message asking what was up and letting her know I would need to drop her. She tells me it's her boyfriend and it's because she gave him her old phone and the Line IDs were still on it. I am now thinking she is BSing me because 1) she told me she was seeing a woman and didn't have a boyfriend, and 2) why would he need to add my ID by phone number if my ID was already on her phone. So I point out those two things and say I have to block her, but then she says the guy in the picture is actually her GF and she is a tomboy. And that the phone sent an add request to her entire list of friends and customers. I didn't know what to believe at that point, so I just blocked them both. I figured it was safer that way, though I think I believe her after the messages and a closer inspection of his pics. She kept saying, "I promise you it's OK."

I think I was a little on edge with the Thai girl thing because I'm 99% sure one girl was recording our conversation the other day. She acted like it was an accident, but.