Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Member #2453; 1129071]My first visit to Sazanka at the new location.Soi 6 seems to be a long way, almost 15mins walk from suk55, I had almost given up, I don't think we can walk the distance once the weather gets more warm.[/QUOTE]Yes it's a long way walking, I checked out the location 2 month ago but no time to visit since then so I did it a few days ago and for once, I used the brains in the big head, I jumped on a bike from the BTS till Soi 6 for 20Bt and a 2 min ride, did the same on the way back to avoid some sweat after the body clean up and took the BTS till Asok, I will send a detailed report later on.John Euro

Hi gentlemen, As suggested by others I did some RTFF on massage places as well as consulted some of our experienced forumers. I'm pretty sure if I try a massage place I'd go for Nataree for it seems to sound like the place I would like the most (my priority is good and slim body and pretty face,"doll" if possible) and I quite liked the reviews I read.I have a few specific questions because I didn't get a very clear picture on that.- Sideline girls. Is it possible to evaluate their body shape before choosing? I know it may be difficult to see the body shape when a girl is wearing normal clothes. Is this a problem in Nataree? Once it happened to me that I chose a slim looking girl but her body appeared to be not that slim when she got naked. Such scenario really scares me.- What about BBBJ? Do any sideline girls do it or is it just for fishbowl girls? Or is it best just to ask pappasan? - Tipping. How does it work for papasan and the girl? And, most importantly, how much for pappasan and for girl? Do the girls expect tipping and if yes, when (before or after?). And is there a farang surcharge? If so do the girls still expect a tip (that would sound a bit of a rip off in the end).- What is the chance to get a girl that does anal? As much as I understand it's mainly for fishbowl girls but are there really cute and slim girls there? And do they normally do it (say, at least 50%) or is it exclusive to a few girls only? I would assume that very few sideline girls would do it.- what about the pricing? Are 2000 and 5000 sideline girls really that different or is there some other criteria they set the price against? Or is it just for no reason? I'd be thankful for any other advice or tips on Nataree since I guess I'd give it a go next time I'm in BKK.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1132418]- Sideline girls. Is it possible to evaluate their body shape before choosing? I know it may be difficult to see the body shape when a girl is wearing normal clothes. Is this a problem in Nataree? Once it happened to me that I chose a slim looking girl but her body appeared to be not that slim when she got naked. Such scenario really scares me.

- What about BBBJ? Do any sideline girls do it or is it just for fishbowl girls? Or is it best just to ask pappasan?

- Tipping. How does it work for papasan and the girl? And, most importantly, how much for pappasan and for girl? Do the girls expect tipping and if yes, when (before or after?). And is there a farang surcharge? If so do the girls still expect a tip (that would sound a bit of a rip off in the end).

- What is the chance to get a girl that does anal? As much as I understand it's mainly for fishbowl girls but are there really cute and slim girls there? And do they normally do it (say, at least 50%) or is it exclusive to a few girls only? I would assume that very few sideline girls would do it. [/quote]Use the Papasan. A good thing when dealing with Papasans is to tip them twice. Usually give them 100 to start with and let them know that if the girl gives you great service, they will get a nice tip after (200 is enough).

Papasans will tell you everything about every girl and also will tell the girl once you choose that she MUST do what you want and make sure you are very happy! Because you are a VIP customer (he wants to ensure she performs so he gets the tip afterwards).

[quote]- what about the pricing? Are 2000 and 5000 sideline girls really that different or is there some other criteria they set the price against? Or is it just for no reason?

I'd be thankful for any other advice or tips on Nataree since I guess I'd give it a go next time I'm in BKK. [/QUOTE]Price minimum for Sideline is 2, 600 and asking if they are much different is irrelevant. It's all about taste but as Nataree is also used by Asians, I would think that the upper category are the really young or whitest skinned girls.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1132455]Use the Papasan. A good thing when dealing with Papasans is to tip them twice. Usually give them 100 to start with and let them know that if the girl gives you great service, they will get a nice tip after (200 is enough).

Papasans will tell you everything about every girl and also will tell the girl once you choose that she MUST do what you want and make sure you are very happy! Because you are a VIP customer (he wants to ensure she performs so he gets the tip afterwards).

Price minimum for Sideline is 2, 600 and asking if they are much different is irrelevant. It's all about taste but as Nataree is also used by Asians, I would think that the upper category are the really young or whitest skinned girls. [/QUOTE]Thank you, Nic. Just what about tipping the girls? And what about farang surcharge? Does it apply to Nataree?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1132455]Use the Papasan. A good thing when dealing with Papasans is to tip them twice. Usually give them 100 to start with and let them know that if the girl gives you great service, they will get a nice tip after (200 is enough).[/QUOTE]I've never tipped a Nataree papasan. I don't request their assistance or follow their advice either. A specific one always follows me around, and we smile in recognition when I arrive. I have not noticed that his advice has made a difference to what I encountered in the room. I choose slowly and try my best to read the girls. Mostly I've been happy with my choices, sometimes very happy indeed.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1132455]Price minimum for Sideline is 2, 600[/QUOTE]When I started going there, about half of the girls went for 2300. I had actually assumed the price jumped to 2600 for me because I didn't tip the papasan. But if you tip twice and also pay 2600, I'm not about to start tipping him.

That said, for many people I think NicFrenchy's advice is good. It can be hard to see past the makeup and it's quite intimidating to stand facing so many young ladies, so if you need help choosing, by all means ask. Also, I'm content to figure out what the girl is up for while we're in the room, depending on chemistry and personality. If you need specific services, it's also best to talk to the papasan.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1132755]Thank you, Nic. Just what about tipping the girls? And what about farang surcharge? Does it apply to Nataree?[/QUOTE]You can tip the girls whatever you want, but you do not have to, their fee is already in the 2, 600 (or up)

No Farang Surcharge@Nataree

[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1132768]That said, for many people I think NicFrenchy's advice is good. It can be hard to see past the makeup and it's quite intimidating to stand facing so many young ladies, so if you need help choosing, by all means ask. Also, I'm content to figure out what the girl is up for while we're in the room, depending on chemistry and personality. If you need specific services, it's also best to talk to the papasan.[/QUOTE]The thing with Nataree is, Clientele is essentially Asian so Papasans are careful to keep the best girls for their customers.

If you walk in and just treat papasan as a glorified Doorman, he will not really be helpful and say yes to everything so that you are out of his hair quickly. Papasans are not on a salary and rely on tips to make a living. So giving them a few bills will ensure you they will help the best they can because if you are happy, you come back and if you come back, he makes money. Papasans can be your best ally in the place if you treat them properly.

I went to LaBelle twice and first time, I gave Papa 300. Next time I set foot there, he rushed to greet me and I got a rundown of all the girls (who's on the rag, fake boobs, who's feeling sick, who's had customers before.) so it helps to grease Papasans sometimes.

But careful though. Papasans are sneaky bastards, some girls also give them money to promote them.

Finally got the time to get a massage in BKK and I headed for the Poseidon.I don't speak any Thai so just relied on the taxi driver but we got there with no trouble. The Poseidon entrance looked quite Grand and promising. I think I saw a couple of well bodied thai guys in typical civilian dress but a strong cop look and hairstyle carrying small leather bags under their arms. Gave me a sense of comfort as they have been paid out probably. No Raids will happen tonight haha.Went upto the second floor and four papasans seemed least interested in me and were just lazying around among themselves. Finally I asked one about how does it work and he told me the usual story 2500 tbh 1. 5 hr or 3500 tbh. There were hardly 10 girls in the fishbowl and one in the sideline. I asked for models and that arsehole gave me a (can you afford kinda look.) Went up to the third floor and there were a couple of sweet mamasans welcoming me and asking me to choose.This was much better than downstairs and you can actually sit down order a drink while making your choice.However the model collection was unimpressive. Disappointed I move down and make a exit.Went next doors to Copa Cabana, as soon as I entered an old papasan was in my face and welcoming me. The papasan had a strange "Uncle" like feeling about him. We sat and he explained me the works. I asked him to recommend. We both settled on mimi one of the sidelines (3100 thb) She was a sweet character with all smiles and giggles. When I told her I am from Indonesia she was all excited and wanted to work in Alexis (a top notch club there) Mimi was cute about 5, 4 artificially made boobs but had a decent feel to them and a excellent thai arse, dusky skin with tattos.Inside the room, the place was very good, order a drink for both of us and later we both undressed. Mimi starts with a "Excellent" massage with oil and using her strong skinny hands and did the usual arse gliding After 20 mins of massage I roll over and she begins with a BBBJ which was not the best but she was a fast learner when I told her what I like. Earlier she has tried to rim me but I refused as I am not a fan of anything backdoors.I think she wanted me to cum with a BJ first however its difficult for me so finally she gives up puts on a condom and rides me cowboy while sucking on my nipples and deep kissing. Which I found surprising. She was skillful once we begun and we changed positions to mish, sideways and finally finishing in doggy.Satisfied we moved to the hottub which was quite a big sized and perfect for me (6, 2.100kgs) She washed me thoroughly and was to my surprise quite chatty and comfortable to be with. Then after the wash she just lay in my arms and began to stir me up again with a balls massage and light kissing. Went to the bed for round two and BBBJ was must better this time and she seems to enjoy it. After 10 mins she rides me and the same routine, we finish in mish.Overall and excellent GFE Face 8/10 Body 8/10 Service 8/10 (1. 5 hrs is less, they should make it 2. 5 or 3) Plan to visit again today, let me know if anyone want to tag along! Cheers

[QUOTE=Gaston Castano; 1132794]Finally got the time to get a massage in BKK Cheers[/QUOTE]Excellent TR, a couple questions if I may on Cupidity:1. What time of day did you go? 2. How many girls to choose from? TIA

After reading lot of reports I called Rin at Hana, fixed an appointment and got in there this afternoon.With the directions on the ISG it was not much difficult to find Hana Massage and upon entering I found sitting at the entrance.I have seen her photos so it was easy to recognize her and based on reccomendations I settled for the Rin special testicles massage.The usual shower, followed by a cigarette, the massage starts.While massaging the bums sometimes she moved along the ass cheeks, which was first time experience and enjoyful.Turned side, overall a good massage and then finally she stretched my legs and sat in between and like a feather touch started feeling the testicles, oh God, it was ecstasy, deftly she was moving the fingers, it was absolute heavenly.She shifted to the shaft and cupped the balls till I signalled her to BJ.I had experienced BJ but this was something to die for.An excellent afternoon and thanks to the Forum.Cheers!

Some of the absolute best advice I have ever heard in this thread. Give the papasan 100 bht and tell him he will get another round if the girl performs well. I am going to use that for sure at Nataree next time.

[QUOTE=Gaston Castano; 1132794]Went upto the second floor and four papasans seemed least interested in me and were just lazying around among themselves. Finally I asked one about how does it work and he told me the usual story 2500 tbh 1. 5 hr or 3500 tbh. There were hardly 10 girls in the fishbowl and one in the sideline. I asked for models and that arsehole gave me a (can you afford kinda look.) Went up to the third floor and there were a couple of sweet mamasans welcoming me and asking me to choose.This was much better than downstairs and you can actually sit down order a drink while making your choice.However the model collection was unimpressive. Disappointed I move down and make a exit.Went next doors to Copa Cabana, as soon as I entered an old papasan was in my face and welcoming me. The papasan had a strange "Uncle" like feeling about him. We sat and he explained me the works. I asked him to recommend. We both settled on mimi one of the sidelines (3100 thb) She was a sweet character with all smiles and giggles. When I told her I am from Indonesia she was all excited and wanted to work in Alexis (a top notch club there) [/QUOTE]You may have arrived too early for the best lineup. Sometimes you have to wait for the pretty girls to re-appear as they may not last in fishbowl for long.The papasans are used to meeting lots of "Khee Niao" stingy customers, so hence the look of "Do you really want to spend big?". So why take it personally? It maybe that he thought the models are a waste of money, which is what I believe, unless they are extremely georgous, which happens occassionally.In any case the so called "models" may have okay bodies but are really not that pretty as you pointed out. They probably just have whiter skin and pass some minimum height and maximum age test, and no stretch marks allowed.Copacabana is a great alternative and I have had good experiences there. It does have a more friendly feel to it. They have upstairs models too, but not necessarily any prettier than the normal girls.

[QUOTE=Palatkik; 1132830]Excellent TR, a couple questions if I may on Cupidity:1. What time of day did you go? 2. How many girls to choose from? TIA[/QUOTE]Hi Palatkik, Went at about 6. 30 pm as recommended and in CC None in Fishbowl and all in sideline, go figure.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1132418]- Sideline girls. Is it possible to evaluate their body shape before choosing? I know it may be difficult to see the body shape when a girl is wearing normal clothes. Is this a problem in Nataree? Once it happened to me that I chose a slim looking girl but her body appeared to be not that slim when she got naked. Such scenario really scares me.- What about BBBJ? Do any sideline girls do it or is it just for fishbowl girls? Or is it best just to ask pappasan? - Tipping. How does it work for papasan and the girl? And, most importantly, how much for pappasan and for girl? Do the girls expect tipping and if yes, when (before or after?). And is there a farang surcharge? If so do the girls still expect a tip (that would sound a bit of a rip off in the end).- What is the chance to get a girl that does anal? As much as I understand it's mainly for fishbowl girls but are there really cute and slim girls there? And do they normally do it (say, at least 50%) or is it exclusive to a few girls only? I would assume that very few sideline girls would do it.- what about the pricing? Are 2000 and 5000 sideline girls really that different or is there some other criteria they set the price against? Or is it just for no reason? [/QUOTE]You can see the sideline girls from close up. They can't hide fat that easily. If in doubt ask for them to stand up.Its more likely that the girl will appear to have big tits but that they will vanish when she takes clothes off. Not many fatties at Nataree, I think.BBBJ is more dependent on the particular girl, how clean you are, and whether she likes you.I believe its best to tip papasans afterwards if recommended girl was good. Papasans often get kickbacks from girls (who may be poor) , to recommend them, so you are fighting against this problem. So you can't trust recommendations.Only tip the girl if she performed really great for you. Price is inclusive. 500 Baht would be okay 100-200 Baht is too small really and makes you look cheap. Better to tip nothing rather than too little. A good tip is appreciated as many girls are on contract and see very little of the cash themselves.Probably very few girls do anal, but I don't know for sure.Most sideline girls cost a little more than fishbowl. 5000 Baht girls surely will not be worth it. My best experiences were with more experienced girls in the fishbowl. Young newbies on the sideline often don't know how to do anything much at all, e. G. Very poor blowjob technique for some.

Member 2453 has given already some details on the new Sazanka, it's clear that this one is now far better than the suk 22 facilities but a bit away from the oily Soi's, an advantage for them is that Soi 55 is a residential area for Japs & Korean.I entered at 14. 00 and during my session the only customer inside, I had a chat with good old papasan, they use now 4 floors connected with an elevator, all floors have nice rooms with separate a dry & wet table, papa is looking in to accommodate more guest since the previous wet room was limited and girls have been shorten the time with the scrub when other guests are waiting to get wet, will be always min 8 girls on duty, he will try to make the lobby as a drinking lounge. Based on the investment and changes, I guess he must have bought the place, but talking enough on this part.I got seated and a young boy gave me the menu and 8 photo cards from girls with rating, age, experience etc, right away I remembered 4 faces and names from the old place, based on some good experiences before I took one of these girls I knew, for sure no newbie's now after my bad experience at Nico's akasuri.The girl joined me in the elevator, told me, long time you not see ' and a hug, so she recognised me (tips can open up memories quickly) , she undressed me and up on the wet table, the wash and scrub was excellent done till the last cm, she did not forgot the Willy wash and a thoroughly inspection, dry off and up on the massage table.Girl disappeared for 8min for my drink and some hot towels, a good back pressure massage that took a long time and after the flip over a bit more towel pressure on the front till the lower part from towel was removed, then she started with the sensual tickling in de sensitive area and created a reaction where I was waiting for.Now it was my turn to take the lead, I gave her a sign to take the top off has she did on previous occasions but we all know it's off the standard procedure, I got in return a strange look back and told her, tip OK? , big smile and the top & bra got off and another sign from my site to take the bottom parts off as well, a bit resistance and another strange look with a question mark in her eyes, yes I understood the hint and I used only the words ' good tip ok ' this without mentioning a amount because she knows the game.The girl got on top of me for a of the package BTB, using a lot of nuru nuru gel, rubbing my junior against her Bush just like a dry Bush f. K, wow a thick dark black Bush, sure it has never seen a razor I guess, a bit strange in these modern shaven pussy days but a good old fashion feeling anyway, it made willy even more harder. I could touch her without any problem and asked for a ' cha-cha HJ ' what she did and she organised all together a very good finish, different from there standard HJ in the package.Got another shower, paid the extra service, a thanks and a good hug from the girl and I left with a smile on my face, took a bike taxi till the BTS and happy for the rest of the day, or at least till the moment I ended up in Tilac at Soi Coboy.The service and girls are far better that at Nico and the distance is worth to travel that far till Soi 55, big improvement on the old soi 22 facilities for sure.John Euro