Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;2364075]Does a Devil's Den exist in Bangkok or only Pattaya? I can't find anything on my research that shows one open in Bangkok. Maybe it closed?[/QUOTE]Devil's Den never existed in BKK, only in Pattaya. In BKK you have Eden Club in soi 7/1.

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I have never been to the Devils Den as I read here that it is overpriced at around 3000 baht, and service and chicks aren't all that great.[/QUOTE]No, now it's 4000 baht for 1 HR with 2 girls. And yes, nowadays service is very low.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2364146]Devil's Den never existed in BKK, only in Pattaya. In BKK you have Eden Club in soi 7/1.[/QUOTE]First there was Eden Club on Soi 7/1 BKK. Marc the owner or manager of Eden went into partnership to create Eden Club in Pattaya. The business's separated and Eden Pattaya was renamed Devil's Den. Neither place is as good as it was years back.

In my research, I'm noticing many comments about service going down and prices going up. Are there any theories as to why this is?

[QUOTE=Downandup;2364155]First there was Eden Club on Soi 7/1 BKK. Marc the owner or manager of Eden went into partnership to create Eden Club in Pattaya. The business's separated and Eden Pattaya was renamed Devil's Den. Neither place is as good as it was years back.[/QUOTE]

I am sure this is true to a degree, and those of you who have more regular observations from living there or multiple yearly trips, will generally have a different perspective. As usual, we know that beauty I sin the eye of the beholder. I prefer late 20's to early 30's (especially Thai ladies) so they aren't too young.

That said, my last trip to BKK about 18 months ago went pretty well. First night I grabbed two ladies from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s to make an initial check of the fluid levels. As expected, most there were in the 6-ish range and 30's-40's. I'd call it a bargain service, but I have also seen some decent looking ladies sitting outside there, but didn't pull the trigger. I then found my way to one of the 2nd floor places at Nana and grabbed a super hot 20-something for ST. Great face and body, but not the most enthusiastic fuck.

Then I headed to Crazy House, and found my Nirvana. The ladies were really pretty much in my strike zone. Not too young, and not too old. Most were 8's with a few better looking, but frankly, I am shopping for attitude and personality as much as looks. I was selected by Aom. A mid 30's MILF, with a great figure, no baby damage, and a quiet but great personality. Despite paying for ST, she would stay in my room for two hours, two shots, and napping in between, before she'd go on her way. We repeated multiple times over the course of a week and a half, but one night she wasn't around so I wound up with a slightly chunkier lady with very large man-made's, who was probably the naughtiest of the ladies there. We took off for ST, and again did a couple hours with multiple shots, and she took CIM like a champ. My last night I took Aom, Chocolate and another girl for several hours, but had to wait for the McD's party to finish before we could get down to business. Thai ladies are another breed, I think.

An interesting aside. I guess she's the Mamasan at Crazy House, but she gave me a mean hand massage for a few hundred Baht while the other lady was grinding and chewing on my crotch, through my shorts. I had to wash them to remove the lipstick. LOL. Certainly nothing unusual or special at CH, but it suited me well. I almost think the personality of the "bar" is as important as the lady, as it helps set the mood. If you feel like the bar is a hassle, it starts things off on the wrong foot.

I was disappointed this trip to find a fave MP was no longer there. It was on the 2nd floor of an alley between the JW Marriott (south of) and Nana Plaza. She was just about perfect, and the service was amazing for the price, at the time. Oh well. The point here is that sometimes the off the wall places can be a real find, so it's important to be open to opportunities, like cart bars.

I was bored last night, that being August 28th so I took a run over to the lower sukhumvit pit. Here is your report.

I walked into lollipop is it in the first floor of Nana plaza. That one chick attracted my eye. I also poked my nose into the rainbow Gogo on the first floor, drank a soda water, and marveled at the lack of quality. I took a stroll past the hookers, and again, nothing, my particular eye.

I walked into terme, it wasn't very crowded, and there were a few good looking girls but I was just strolling and not hunting. Several attempted to chat me up, they were cute, and I did not bother getting any pricing cause like I said, I was strolling. I would note that for you guys who think that termae is just for Asian dudes, please note that this fat old jai Dee geezer play die contact with at least 60% of the girls there. Only the truly blatant sculpted anime girls ignored me. Keep in mind, however, that since I stay here all winter, many of the girls recognized me as regularly cruising the place.

I felt like getting some pizza, so I strolled up to the pizza joint, is it Pala? Under ashok BTS. Figuring I was already up there, I strolled through soi cowboy for the first time in probably 7 months. I understand why I don't go there. It's nothing more than a tourist trap. I took a swing through crazy house, they didn't ask me for a cover charge or to buy a drink, but it was way too crowded, and 90% were Asian. Those guys were getting hit for drinks right outside the door. I saw a couple of decent naked ones in crazy house, but it was too crowded for me to do anything even if I was inclined. Then I went over to cozy / KZ, the only two lookers I saw where the show girls, who were busy popping ping pong balls out of their pussy. It wasn't very crowded, but it just really wasn't my style. So I went and bought some pizza and went home.

Personally, if I was a sex tourist, I'd probably be in crazy house with the rest of the falangs at the back bar, with some naked girl gyrating on my lap. But not to be a cheap Charlie, I'm not going to pound down soda waters at 175 baht a pop just to play grab ass with some cutie.

StreetWise, at 10 on a Wednesday, there was a dearth of hookers on sukhumvit.

I understand that Thai girls charge around 750 tbh for short time and 2 k-2.5 k for long time.

How much do the Russian girls in Bangkok charge? Is it same price or they charge more as fair skin is considered hotter in Asia.

And I heard the charges in Pattaya are lower. But I will ask Pattaya charges in that forum.

Please tell my sweet brothers. Thank you.

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;2364195]In my research, I'm noticing many comments about service going down and prices going up. Are there any theories as to why this is?[/QUOTE]The internets.

You're about 18 years late for the party, sorry.

That's interesting that you bring up the Internet, because I'd assume (yes, probably incorrectly) that the Internet would've made things better because.

1) Sites like Smooci have a ratings system, plus it's transparent in it's pricing.

2) Don't these women know we can just rub one out and not have to deal with the drama?

[QUOTE=RickRock;2364339]The internets.

You're about 18 years late for the party, sorry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2364281]I understand that Thai girls charge around 750 tbh for short time and 2 k-2.5 k for long time.

How much do the Russian girls in Bangkok charge? Is it same price or they charge more as fair skin is considered hotter in Asia.

And I heard the charges in Pattaya are lower. But I will ask Pattaya charges in that forum.

Please tell my sweet brothers. Thank you.[/QUOTE]You are joking, right? Maybe 25 years ago this price level would be valid.

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;2364480]That's interesting that you bring up the Internet, because I'd assume (yes, probably incorrectly) that the Internet would've made things better because.

1) Sites like Smooci have a ratings system, plus it's transparent in it's pricing.

2) Don't these women know we can just rub one out and not have to deal with the drama?[/QUOTE]It's made things worse. Easier to find information makes for too many punters. When you had to come over, talk to expats, and dig it out for yourself, it was far better.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2364692]It's made things worse. Easier to find information makes for too many punters. When you had to come over, talk to expats, and dig it out for yourself, it was far better.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree.

[QUOTE=Mathew1984;2364281]I understand that Thai girls charge around 750 tbh for short time and 2 k-2.5 k for long time.

How much do the Russian girls in Bangkok charge? Is it same price or they charge more as fair skin is considered hotter in Asia.

And I heard the charges in Pattaya are lower. But I will ask Pattaya charges in that forum.

Please tell my sweet brothers. Thank you.[/QUOTE]8,000 THB per hour.

Fellow brothers,

Have any of you tried a gloryhole in BKK? I have looked everywhere and the best I found was a massage with a gloryhole table.

Would like to try so fun with an element of not knowing.

Any advice or recommendation is much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2364692]It's made things worse. Easier to find information makes for too many punters. When you had to come over, talk to expats, and dig it out for yourself, it was far better.[/QUOTE]I don't think finding P4P girls in Thailand was ever a problem and did not require much of what you mention, Goatscrot. My first visit to Thailand was some 25-30 years ago when there was no internet. There were a lot of travel books to find out about hotel rates, directions to the bars, typical costs, etc and they were available to anyone and everyone all over the world.

When I came here in those days, I never talked to an expat, never had to do any digging to find and partake of the exact same kind of venues every expat I know goes to today. And I don't notice the crowds at these venues any larger than they were 25-30 years ago.

However, the internet, smartphones, social network apps and so on have definitely had an impact and changed the environment, no doubt about that. But not all for the negative.

If I had to cite the biggest internet related negative for the P4P experience vs decades ago, it would probably be these; the girls can now get a lot of their emotional, playful, friendly interaction needs met by looking down at their smartphone screen and they can easily line up the next booking within 1 minute while we are taking a pisss in the bathroom.

[QUOTE=Aviator12;2364625]You are joking, right? Maybe 25 years ago this price level would be valid.[/QUOTE]No not joking at all. I honestly wanted to ask. Its around 1000 baht for short time.