Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2577528]One of the best posts on this forum. Clear, well said, and straight to the point. Kudos for you.

Mr. E, on many topics you make very reasonable statements. Trust me: your statement above is 100% wrong instead. It is a medical fact, not an opinion. Saying a triangle has 4 sides is not a matter of opinions. It is wrong, period.

Contributing to spreading wrong facts may have serious consequences, because some people may believe it, just because expressed well, then harm themselves and others.[/QUOTE]Well said, sir.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2577204]No, I have not been vaxed. Haven't been home since New Year, and not really interested in the vax, anyway. One buddy has been vaxed, and both have had COVID. One got it a year ago, so he's not 100% confident, and doesn't want to spend his vacation quarantined, but it sounds like he's going to roll the dice.

I woke up today feeling fine. Congestion has improved, and fatigue is gone.

Based on JjBee62's terrible experience and information, it seems any test I do in the next 24 hours would come back positive. Thus, maybe I need to just make the decision based on how I feel. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but if I feel 100% in the morning, and my buddies have no worries. I'll probably consider going out. What could go wrong? Last time I was excited to go out in Medellin, I spent two days and $1800 replacing an iPhone!

Thanks to all for the comments, advice, & info. Not something I want to spend a half a day researching on Google![/QUOTE]Nobody got their shot (s) a year ago. They didn't even have one for use until late Fall. What could go wrong? You're stupid ass could transmit to someone's mom or grandma who DOES die of it. Here's to herd immunity and it's accompanying attrition among the 3%ers.

[QUOTE=TheBMan;2577388]The truth is nobody knows anything yet. Just like they said you can get it easily from surfaces which turned out to be bunk. Only n95 can help you. But wait medical staff are running out so yea, those cloth masks work fine too. Oh BTW we found out it's difficult to get it from surface contact. And on and on. Let people make their own choices on what they put in their body. You got the vaccine so you're safe right? I'm 39,smoke, drink, treat my body like a dumpster and have had colds worse than covid. If you want to be the Guinea pig to a rushed vaccine that would normally take years to be studied and approved then by all means do you, but I'll wait it out.[/QUOTE]Do as you wish, but do it based on facts, not myths. The vaccines weren't "rushed." We came with a ten year head start on MRNA studies. We've also developed ways to conduct clinical trials more rapidly, and responses from the public with participation in the same has been huge and unprecedented.

[URL]https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/11771-debunking-the-myths-about-the-covid-19-vaccine[/URL]

P.S. We do know something about transmission and prevention of the same, through studies and experience as the pandemic has progressed, as is common with science, so to say that "nobody knows anything yet" is simply incorrect.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2577572]...What could go wrong? ...[/QUOTE]May I humbly add to that? This is an RNA virus, which mutates at an alarming rate. A coupla' three weeks ago, the Republicans were raging against "gain of function" experiments in different virology labs. We are currently participating in a massive, worldwide gain of function experiment, dwarfing anything that ever happened in any lab. The delta variant is not that virulent; however, the epsilon, zeta or the omega could be. The only way we have to get back to normal is to crush the virus to zero.

Thanks for the thorough report.

[QUOTE=TheBMan;2577388]The truth is nobody knows anything yet. Just like they said you can get it easily from surfaces which turned out to be bunk. Only n95 can help you. But wait medical staff are running out so yea, those cloth masks work fine too. Oh BTW we found out it's difficult to get it from surface contact. And on and on. Let people make their own choices on what they put in their body. You got the vaccine so you're safe right? I'm 39,smoke, drink, treat my body like a dumpster and have had colds worse than covid. If you want to be the Guinea pig to a rushed vaccine that would normally take years to be studied and approved then by all means do you, but I'll wait it out.[/QUOTE]So, you prefer to do nothing at all than take what is a tiny risk?

I don't fully trust the vaccine, but I am no medial expert so if they say it is fine then my opinion counts for nothing. I would rather take a slightly dodgy vaccine that do F all.

Just let everyone else get the vaccine then because that will benefit you. Selfish.

If our ancestors hadn't taken risks with vaccines that they new very little about, we'd probably all be dead by now. But it's OK. Let everyone else put themselves out. Be a selfish TW at T.

[QUOTE=TheBMan;2577388]The truth is nobody knows anything yet. I'm 39, smoke, drink, treat my body like a dumpster[/QUOTE]Thanks for the perfect set-up. "Nobody knows anything"? That is a garbage can statement. At least you're consistent.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2577595]May I humbly add to that? This is an RNA virus, which mutates at an alarming rate. A coupla' three weeks ago, the Republicans were raging against "gain of function" experiments in different virology labs. We are currently participating in a massive, worldwide gain of function experiment, dwarfing anything that ever happened in any lab. The delta variant is not that virulent; however, the epsilon, zeta or the omega could be. The only way we have to get back to normal is to crush the virus to zero.[/QUOTE]Absolutely- thanks for adding that. It's just insanity not to get the vaccine without any rational explanation for avoiding it.

[QUOTE=TheBMan;2577388]The truth is nobody knows anything yet. Just like they said you can get it easily from surfaces which turned out to be bunk. Only n95 can help you. But wait medical staff are running out so yea, those cloth masks work fine too. Oh BTW we found out it's difficult to get it from surface contact. And on and on. Let people make their own choices on what they put in their body. You got the vaccine so you're safe right? I'm 39,smoke, drink, treat my body like a dumpster and have had colds worse than covid. If you want to be the Guinea pig to a rushed vaccine that would normally take years to be studied and approved then by all means do you, but I'll wait it out.[/QUOTE]Absolute rubbish. Thanks for such a textbook exhibition of Dunning Kruger.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2577641]It's just insanity not to get the vaccine without any rational explanation for avoiding it.[/QUOTE]That may well be true, but after countless women in multiple cities of 9 countries multiple times, I am still negative as of 2 hours ago. And remember that I was trolling centro and seen no parts of Poblado.

Jj got the vaccine, went to 1 city, had lunch with 3 chicks, and turned up positive. What went wrong?

[QUOTE=PhilLanderr;2577534]Wasn't sure where to drop this post. Staying at Energy and wondering if anyone that's stayed here has used the COVID test tent right across the street for US travel requirements. Seems awfully convenient if yes.[/QUOTE]I have used it twice great service and quick results.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2577643]Absolute rubbish. Thanks for such a textbook exhibition of Dunning Kruger.[/QUOTE]Welcome doc.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2577641]It's just insanity not to get the vaccine without any rational explanation for avoiding it.[/QUOTE]It could be true but not necessarily. Insanity is a subset of irrationality but it's not the same thing. .

[QUOTE=Mike6911;2577618]If our ancestors hadn't taken risks with vaccines that they new very little about, we'd probably all be dead by now. But it's OK. Let everyone else put themselves out. Be a selfish TW at T.[/QUOTE]Which disease / virus do you think would have wiped out the human race if we had not been vaccinated? I must have missed that one. .

On the subject of selfishness. What do you think about the fact that the majority of people around the world are likely to remain unvaccinated. And that the virus is likely to mutate, meaning that those people that are want vaxxes are likely to need a new one every XX months / years? When you factor those issues in, do you think its selfish really? Seems to me like there is a large slice of exploitation in this.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2577682]Which disease / virus do you think would have wiped out the human race if we had not been vaccinated? I must have missed that one[/QUOTE]Indeed! You missed smallpox and poliomyelitis, because you ancestors were vaccinated.
Not enough to wipe out the human race, but if you get smallpox you regret you did not get the shot. (I am not sure you know poliomyelitis and its effects. It's a difficult word).