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I'd like to visit other countries in the region, albeit w / a fun companion.[/QUOTE]Almost any Thai girl would go with you to Japan or Seoul for free. Singapore is possible too but Singapore hotels are damn expensive. You may have to pay her barfines if it's not her days off.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2390563]Almost any Thai girl would go with you to Japan or Seoul for free. Singapore is possible too but Singapore hotels are damn expensive. You may have to pay her barfines if it's not her days off.[/QUOTE]Agreed. All good points. For sure Japan and Korea are exciting destinations for Thai girls. Hong Kong maybe not unless they think of shopping. If Singapore, the girl will probably love the Marina Sands, but very expensive to stay there. Can just go up top for a meal and a few drinks. My girl smoked a big cigar. LOL.
Best to ask the girl how much she needs to get per day away, and if depends on the destination. It can vary a lot.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2390575]Agreed. All good points. For sure Japan and Korea are exciting destinations for Thai girls. Hong Kong maybe not unless they think of shopping. If Singapore, the girl will probably love the Marina Sands, but very expensive to stay there. Can just go up top for a meal and a few drinks. My girl smoked a big cigar. LOL.
Best to ask the girl how much she needs to get per day away, and if depends on the destination. It can vary a lot.[/QUOTE]Almost most thai girls want to go to Japan, Honk Kong and Korea (in this order, most of the times). I went with one few months back to Japan for a week. She was super cute and hot and I had a great time, so that was worth it.
I am not so sure about Singapore, because I haven't met any girl here who said she want to go to Singapore. Also I don't see why she would visit unless she has already travelled most of SE asia. Plus like others said Singapore is expensive and there's not much to see (if you into nature), it's mostly for shopping.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2390625]Almost most thai girls want to go to Japan, Honk Kong and Korea (in this order, most of the times). I went with one few months back to Japan for a week. She was super cute and hot and I had a great time, so that was worth it.
I am not so sure about Singapore, because I haven't met any girl here who said she want to go to Singapore. Also I don't see why she would visit unless she has already travelled most of SE asia. Plus like others said Singapore is expensive and there's not much to see (if you into nature), it's mostly for shopping.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong is the shittiest for me, due to the local culture being so ugly, although its really many many years since I went there. Also poor for nature. It could have changed a lot. More recently went to Guangzhou which is probably similar. So that would be last for my personal preference. I am not really into the local Hong Kong girls that much either, perhaps did not find the talent, but don't see much point to take a Thai girl there.
My very first trip to Thailand and to Hong Kong (perhaps 1983), I hated Hong Kong, but enjoyed Chiangmai, Bangkok and Phuket. I had Farang girl with me. The respective cultures were so different.
Girls like Singapore for Fashion. Sentosa park is touristy although not exactly nature. The Bird Park is tolerable. I would expect Korea to be number one preferred Thai girl destination, but maybe wrong.
I have been looking around to find prices for the gentlemen club The Pimp. In the end I found the online booking site, which gives you some insight of what is possible: ([URL]https://vipclub.checkfront.com/reserve/[/URL]). I've also asked for prices, to which I got an email back with the same details as on the booking site.
Hereby an overview of my findings, which is also very much for my own use (I still need to decide if I want to pay this much money). Note that I have not yet been there, so this is all from the website. And no, I know this post will make me a suspect but I don't have any shares in this outfit. Just want to make things a bit more transparent.
Costs per lady for the first hour, for members / non-members:
- Pr 1,650/1,900.
- Dancer 2,310/2,660.
- Bikini 2,310/2,660.
- Model 2,310/2,660.
(additional hours are 660/760 for all girl categories).
Membership for 12 months equals 20,000 bht, which gives you one of the following (next to entrance):
- 6 bottles Black Label (1 L).
- 7 bottles Henessy VS (70 CL).
- 6 bottles Absolute (70 CL).
- 80 bottles Heineken.
- 80 bottles Singha.
Non-membership options (including entrance):
- 1 bottle Black Label: 5000.
- 1 bottle Gold Label: 5000.
- 2 bottles of beer: 1000 (entrance is per person; normally beers for 360).
In addition you can get a spot in the live band zone for 600 bht or private VIP rooms / party rooms ranging from 2,500 thb to 10,000 thb. The girls seem to get more hands-on inside the private rooms, so that may be worth it. Otherwise, I think I would prefer the live band zone. So perhaps a combination is possible to arrange. Membership required if you want to make a reservation for private rooms on Friday or Saturday. Online booking seems to give some discounts. Combining the above in various ways, this is a set of packages that may be interesting:
- 1 guy (non-member): 4940 (1 girl, 4 hours) + 600 (VIP table in Live Band Zone) + 3000 (bottle Black Label 70 CL at discount) = 8540.
- 6 guys (1 is member): 6 x4290 (6 girls, 4 hours) + 600 (sofa in Live Band Zone) + 20000 (6 bottles Black Label 1 L + membership 12 months) = 46340 (7723 per person).
- 6 guys (1 is member): 6 x4290 (6 girls, 4 hours) + 4500 (large VIP room) + 18000 (6 bottles Black Label 1 L at discount + membership 12 months) = 48240 (8040 per person).
- 1 guy (non-member): 4940 (1 girl, 4 hours) + 600 (VIP table in Live Band Zone) + 3000 (bottle Black Label 70 CL at discount) + 5000 (extra bottle) = 13540.
- 3 guys (1 is member): 3 x4290 (3 girls, 4 hours) + 2500 (small VIP room) + 18000 (6 bottles Black Label 1 L at discount + membership 12 months) = 33370 (11123 per person).
Now this assumes we only drink Black Label and that you will need 4 hours to empty one bottle (for 1 guy and 1 girl). The last two packages assume 2 bottles, in case you need it (I drink a bit faster and those girls are trained to drink). Now probably the girls will want you to buy some tequila shots and have some food as well, so you may consider the above packages as minimum prices for 4 hours of fun. And the above also assumes online booking for the discounts. And oh yes, it also assumes that you need 1 girl to satisfy your needs. Just add 4 - 5 k for every girl you need extra for the 4 hours.
Disadvantages? Obviously: no ST rooms on premises. And it's quite far away from the regular Nana / Cowboy area. You would have to prepare some transport.
Advantages? Girls are probably very pretty and with a large selection there's something for everyone's taste. Good service can be considered guaranteed at this price. Entertainment and atmosphere will be top.
My conclusion? Yeah, it's pricey! Value for money? Only one way to find out. The 3 guys option above seems most attractive for me, anyone interested 20-25 November just PM me.
On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.
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Disadvantages? Obviously: no ST rooms on premises. And it's quite far away from the regular Nana / Cowboy area. You would have to prepare some transport.
[/QUOTE]It's not that far out really. Only a km or 2 from RCA. I went to Saeng Jan entertainment hall just up the road from there with a Japanese buddy once. Not a problem for location. At night time would not expect traffic jams. Could even choose a closer Hotel like Swissotel Ratchada to stay, or Holiday Inn Soonwijai.
No ST rooms simply means they want to maintain some class (ha ha) rather than being a straight brothel, despite the name. I am sure some guys on here have attended.
Not for me personally. I buy drinks in a gogo bar for a bit less. However if you want more class and can afford it, great.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2390684]On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. Yeh I reckon they know what they can get. Stands to reason the standard improves on Friday and Saturday nights. Most of the girls I met seemed to be less keen on negotiating.
One of my favourites (a tall Bangkok Thai girl Naam) had a price only 1300, and strangely many customers (various nationalities) were trying to negotiate down to even well under 1K. She never showed any interest in talking to them any further. Heard she now has a sponsor and is pregnant to boot.
I was really weird. I offered her more than 1300, but I wanted special treatment. She performed just great for me including GFE. Her only weakness for me was quite small tits, and of course not being there any more.
Those that say the Soi has only dogs, are a little misguided I think. The standard can vary wildly. I still want a chance with the stunning deaf girl if she ever shows up again. She could nearly name her price she was so hot of the slim type. Her face was amazingly pretty to my taste (but could have been under age). She was way better to me than any of the girls in the bars. Only ever saw her once or twice and she tried to fob me off onto her friends.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2390684] Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. [/QUOTE]I know we're not supposed to inflate the pricing for others bla bla bla and I certainly don't throw money around but if I see a girl who is the best looking girl I've seen at a certain place I certainly would NEVER turn her away for 1000 baht more than I was expecting to pay, only to walk to Soi 4 for the next year and see no one else like her.
Glad to see some Viets sneaking in to Thailand for work. Hope they're hotter than the working girls I saw in HCMC.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2390689]It's not that far out really. Only a km or 2 from RCA. I went to Saeng Jan entertainment hall just up the road from there with a Japanese buddy once. Not a problem for location. At night time would not expect traffic jams. Could even choose a closer Hotel like Swissotel Ratchada to stay, or Holiday Inn Soonwijai.
No ST rooms simply means they want to maintain some class (ha ha) rather than being a straight brothel, despite the name. I am sure some guys on here have attended.
Not for me personally. I buy drinks in a gogo bar for a bit less. However if you want more class and can afford it, great.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know, you're right. It's not that far. Even though many taxi drivers will try to take you for a sightseeing tour LOL For the distance I'm more concerned for the way back, I've read somewhere that there are hardly any taxis waiting around closing time at 5 am.
For me it will probably be just a one-time experience to enjoy, out of curiosity, before switching to something else like gogos, MPs or anything else.
[QUOTE=BestTimeEver;2390630]I have been looking around to find prices for the gentlemen club The Pimp.
Costs per lady for the first hour, for members / non-members:
- Pr 1,650/1,900. Dancer 2,310/2,660. Bikini 2,310/2,660. Model 2,310/2,660. (additional hours are 660/760 for all girl categories).
Membership for 12 months equals 20,000 bht, which gives you one of the following (next to entrance):
- 6 bottles Black Label (1 L). - 7 bottles Henessy VS (70 CL). - 6 bottles Absolute (70 CL). - 80 bottles Heineken - 80 bottles Singha.
Non-membership options (including entrance):
- 1 bottle Black Label: 5000. 1 bottle Gold Label: 5000. - 2 bottles of beer: 1000 (entrance is per person; normally beers for 360).
In addition you can get a spot in the live band zone for 600 bht or private VIP rooms / party rooms ranging from 2,500 thb to 10,000 thb. The girls seem to get more hands-on inside the private rooms, so that may be worth it. Otherwise, I think I would prefer the live band zone. So perhaps a combination is possible to arrange. Membership required if you want to make a reservation for private rooms on Friday or Saturday. Online booking seems to give some discounts. Combining the above in various ways, this is a set of packages that may be interesting:
- 3 guys (1 is member): 3 x4290 (3 girls, 4 hours) + 2500 (small VIP room) + 18000 (6 bottles Black Label 1 L at discount + membership 12 months) = 33370 (11123 per person).
Now this assumes we only drink Black Label and that you will need 4 hours to empty one bottle (for 1 guy and 1 girl). The last two packages assume 2 bottles, in case you need it (I drink a bit faster and those girls are trained to drink). Now probably the girls will want you to buy some tequila shots and have some food as well, so you may consider the above packages as minimum prices for 4 hours of fun. And the above also assumes online booking for the discounts. And oh yes, it also assumes that you need 1 girl to satisfy your needs. Just add 4 - 5 k for every girl you need extra for the 4 hours.
Disadvantages? Obviously: no ST rooms on premises. And it's quite far away from the regular Nana / Cowboy area. You would have to prepare some transport.
Advantages? Girls are probably very pretty and with a large selection there's something for everyone's taste. Good service can be considered guaranteed at this price. Entertainment and atmosphere will be top.
My conclusion? Yeah, it's pricey! Value for money? Only one way to find out. The 3 guys option above seems most attractive for me, anyone interested 20-25 November just PM me.[/QUOTE]Well it certainly looks like you did your homework BTE (BestTimeEver). The Pimp Club obviously intrigues you and I am one of the last guys on this forum who would try to discourage you from going there. I have been there and all I have to say is that with the right attitude and a credit card, the Pimp Club can be a lot of fun and you will meet some very sexy and interesting girls, but here are a few things to consider before you go:
#1 the amount of time you plan to spend in BKK is a factor. For example, if you are only staying here for a week or so the benefit of the Pimp Club declines rapidly unless money is no object and you just want to enjoy a night in the club fooling around and drinking with 3 or 4 girls. The tab for such a night will run you 15,000 to 30,000 baht depending on how many girls you ask over and how long you keep them. You also have the option of taking a girl or girls to a private VIP room for 5000 per hour where she or they will be topless and you will have a lot more hanky panky, but none of the private in club entertainment will include vaginal intercourse, although many Pimp girls will barfine and the barfine is 25 lady drinks + the girls fee of 5000 baht or more for a LT overnight session. It should be noted though, that most Pimp girls are good girls and they will tell you not to waste your money and barfine them, but rather to add them to your Line account so the two of you can make arrangements to see each other at your hotel later. This is where being a member and staying for longer periods of time in BKk begin to make the membership pay dividends. I kind of like the idea of having a repeat favorite Gentlemen's Club girl even if the initial cost of finding one is very high, too high for most ISG'ers I am afraid.
#2 it is probably better to visit the Pimp Club with a couple of friends. That way you can defray some of the cost and it becomes more fun to take a group of girls, 2 or 3 girls per guy, to a private room for a party and then in the room you can let one or two go after the 1st hour if they are not adding anything really good to the mix. Remember, if going solo there is also an option for a mini Pimp Club membership for 5 k and with that you get 2 bottles of Black Label. So, if you only have 1 girl and already have membership the cost is not too high, but I guess that depends on your definition of "too". 555.
#3. The question of looks ie are the Pimp girls better looking than A) Go Go girls and or B) Soapy Massage girls? Well, IMHO the average Pimp Club girl are not better looking than the top 5% to 7% of Go Go girls in my favorite Go Go's. They are just different. Pimp girls are light skinned and a little older, in their mid-twenties compared to your above average 19 to 22 year old Isan Go Go girl and Silly Cones are more prevalent with your average Pimp Club girls. Thus, a more apt comparison would be between Pimp girls and high-end Soapy girls like the ones found in Maria Hotel Spa. Here the comparison is roughly on par facially, ethnically, and age wise.
So, the choice turns on what are you looking for and how much you care to spend. If your time is short and you want to lay attractive, twenty something, light skinned girls, then go to Maria Hotel Spa. You will spend 3000 to 10,000 baht for a full-on session with one of their girls and you won't regret it. In fact, doing 3 Maria Spa girls in one long night will probably not cost you more than drinking for 3 or 4 hours while fondleling and recieveing hand jobs from 2 or 3 Pimp Club girls in a VIP private Club room. Take your pick. They are two distinctly different types of nights out on the town but with similar looking, light skin girls.
Anyway, have a great trip. Don't over plan. I am looking forward to hearing about your trip.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2390721]Anyway, have a great trip. Don't over plan. I am looking forward to hearing about your trip.[/QUOTE]Haha. Too late, I always over plan! But that's just me, and it helps me with making decisions. Thanks a lot for your input Natty. And of course I will try to report back on anything interesting.
Your points are all very valid and a great addition to the knowledge base on the Pimp. So only with the intention to add to your points, not to dispute anything, hereby just a few additional remarks.
Because my free (mongering) time is becoming more and more scarce, I'm caring less about the costs. After all, it may be that my next punt will be in one year, so I will have time to save for my next trip. Your note on the value of memberships sounds very true, it pays off to be in BKK longer. But my spend for one evening can be higher than for a resident. Perhaps it needs to be, as it is more critical for me to hit bullseye with any party during this one week. Residents can think that there will be something better next week. But for me, there will be no next week (in BKK).
As a last note: I will probably not base my decision (whether to go to the Pimp or not) only on the basis of any horizontal action. I will also include the music, a night of entertainment by pretty girls, a good view on more pretty girls, and also the thrill of doing something new. If it were only about getting laid, I totally agree that there are other better options. Indeed, it all depends on what we are looking for, as you rightfully stated.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2390684]On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.[/QUOTE]I passed Soi 4 later looking for tall Mai. She was missing again. Passed 4 white skinned Viets (heard their language) in front of Rajah Broadway, one quite pretty (but not my spec). None were tall so I guess different ones. Tall girls on the Soi seemed to be all LBs tonight except for hottest girl I saw in skin tight semi see through outfit showing her fabulous ass (not large just perfect) was a black girl with curly hair. No chance to check her out properly as she was hurrying down the Soi. Some LBs with a good face but body no where near as good as the black girl. LBs often have an exaggerated curve from waist to thigh that just looks wrong and artificial.
Nearly considered a Thai girl on hooters corner, but waist was just a bit too thick for my liking. Overall standard a bit lower than my previous visit. I can just miss out till the morning. Earlier checked out a couple of Cowboy bars, but was probably too late in the evening as the talent levels were down. Kazy Kozy was poor. Not enough girls were nude, and not enough girls were pretty (meaning almost none), and they have silly shows too much. Customers were really quite low, where Crazy House would be busy. I guess better girls had been BFed already. I still believe if attending bars, one really must be there by 9 pm latest, otherwise can see the dregs remaining.
Natty I had no idea you knew the expensive venues as well. You are a veritable font of knowledge. So let me ask you this (others as well). While I like saving a buck as much as the next guy let's suppose I can spend around 8-10 K Baht a night for six days. So let's say 50-70 K baht for the week. I know I can do it for ALOT less, but I don't want to rule things out.
And I LOVE the king of the world experience, where it's not just pick a girl and go. I like spending time in the club with lots of choice. A nice venue. Dancing with the girls, drinking and getting friendly. And then take my favorite after a couple of hours of fun and girl shopping.
Given all the above what would be your top recommends?
Thanks Steve.
P.S. I just reposted some useful FRs in London and So Paulo threads for those that enjoy a good FR. Also having GREAT success stateside (and in Buenos Aires and London) with Seeking Arrangement. Seniors IM me if you want details.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2390745]Natty I had no idea you knew the expensive venues as well. You are a veritable font of knowledge. So let me ask you this (others as well). While I like saving a buck as much as the next guy let's suppose I can spend around 8-10 K Baht a night for six days. So let's say 50-70 K baht for the week. I know I can do it for ALOT less, but I don't want to rule things out.
And I LOVE the king of the world experience, where it's not just pick a girl and go. I like spending time in the club with lots of choice. A nice venue. Dancing with the girls, drinking and getting friendly. And then take my favorite after a couple of hours of fun and girl shopping.
Given all the above what would be your top recommends?
Thanks Steve.
P.S. I just reposted some useful FRs in London and So Paulo threads for those that enjoy a good FR. Also having GREAT success stateside (and in Buenos Aires and London) with Seeking Arrangement. Seniors IM me if you want details.[/QUOTE]King of the World experience? Vegas or an FKK.
I haven't done a King of the World for ages for two reasons: I don't drink anymore and at my age, spending $20,000 for a night of debauchery isn't a good value. Dollars not baht. Real Kings of the world don't rule in Thailand, they go to the USA or Europe.