Jakarta

[QUOTE=Menteng]I've never had a satisfactory session in T. But don't let this scare you off, because apparently all other mongerers have had better experiences.[/QUOTE]

But a lot of people say the same thing. Yeah, the girls there are young (legal but under 20) and sometimes pretty. But they very often perform very formulaically and without much enthusiasm, even feigned. I had really good luck the first time I went, but after that it's always been a bit disappointing. The girls at Melawai are more friendly and better performers.

Komang. I when to Angels at 11am on 27th sept 2010. Trying to Get in first and have fresh pussy. She already had two guys. I was number three and many more to come. Maybe 10 guys a day, 70 guys a week, 280 guys a month, 3000 guys a year, Has been working there 3 years plus = 9000 guys. Big pussy now and was a red day. Sad to say it. But she has had the life bang out of her. Marks all over her neck. Like she had been choked. I think no more for me. I'm out and good luck guys. Here are a few Photo and check it out.

[QUOTE=Menteng]The money, the rooms and the looks, Travel wins hands down. But somehow, except for my sessions with a particular girl who used to work there (Yola), I've never had a satisfactory session in T. But don't let this scare you off, because apparently all other mongerers have had better experiences.

You do have to enter the lobby at Melawai I, but walk straight to the elevators that are located opposite of the main entrance. You'll be noticed anyway, but don't bother. Since hardly any bulai stays there anymore, they'll know you are there for the 6th floor. :D[/QUOTE]

Ok, thanks my test report will follow.
I will be in Jakarta in 2 weeks time.

I must of been tried and made a mistake!

[QUOTE=JustBlue]Komang. I when to Angels at 11am on 27th sept 2010. Trying to Get in first and have fresh pussy. She already had two guys. I was number three and many more to come. Maybe 10 guys a day, 70 guys a week, 280 guys a month, 3000 guys a year, Has been working there 3 years plus = 9000 guys. Big pussy now and was a red day. Sad to say it. But she has had the life bang out of her. Marks all over her neck. Like she had been choked. I think no more for me. I'm out and good luck guys. Here are a few Photo and check it out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]But a lot of people say the same thing. Yeah, the girls there are young (legal but under 20) and sometimes pretty. But they very often perform very formulaically and without much enthusiasm, even feigned. I had really good luck the first time I went, but after that it's always been a bit disappointing. The girls at Melawai are more friendly and better performers.[/QUOTE]

I made the same experience in Travel Hotel. I got a very pretty girl. Mamasan must have liked me. But, she was a real starfish. But, I didn't mind too much, since I value good apperance more than good performance.
But, for that I do not need to go to Indonesia. Pretty girls from all over the world you will also find in Frankfurts Bordell for about the same money, with a even better performance. ;)

@Cooze Fish regarding your question in the Jakarta Hotel thread, I am a freelancer fan. In Thailand I take mostly freelancer from the Discos. They are usual pretty, good performer and ask for resonable prices. In Jakarta or also in Bali the freelancer are often pretty, imho prettier than what you will find in Thailand in average. I like leggy girls with round asses and that I saw more often in Jakarta, than in Thailand. Thai girls are often either short legged, or very petite. So, Jakarta has more the voluptious typ.
Though they asked for silly prices. In block M (Top Gun) I was often and the I became good responce from the girls. Since, most other men where older expats, so I could choose the most beautiful ones. Though I didn't took one, since they asked about 800.000 to 1.000.000 Rupiah. Maybe the not so pretty ones are cheaper, though if you can have a beautiful girl in Travel Hotel for 270.000 incl Room, Condom, etc, than a Freelance whose asked for 100 US$ or 100 Euro is just not resonable.
So, I didn't took one girl from Block M, though I enjoyed to flirt, talk and dance with girls. I just didn't felt the need to pay so much for sex. But, after 3 days the girls knew me well and that I didn't took one of them. So, they were a bit pissed. ;)

[QUOTE=DG69]I made the same experience in Travel Hotel. I got a very pretty girl. Mamasan must have liked me. But, she was a real starfish. But, I didn't mind too much, since I value good apperance more than good performance.
But, for that I do not need to go to Indonesia. Pretty girls from all over the world you will also find in Frankfurts Bordell for about the same money, with a even better performance. ;)

@Cooze Fish regarding your question in the Jakarta Hotel thread, I am a freelancer fan. In Thailand I take mostly freelancer from the Discos. They are usual pretty, good performer and ask for resonable prices. In Jakarta or also in Bali the freelancer are often pretty, imho prettier than what you will find in Thailand in average. I like leggy girls with round asses and that I saw more often in Jakarta, than in Thailand. Thai girls are often either short legged, or very petite. So, Jakarta has more the voluptious typ.
Though they asked for silly prices. In block M (Top Gun) I was often and the I became good responce from the girls. Since, most other men where older expats, so I could choose the most beautiful ones. Though I didn't took one, since they asked about 800.000 to 1.000.000 Rupiah. Maybe the not so pretty ones are cheaper, though if you can have a beautiful girl in Travel Hotel for 270.000 incl Room, Condom, etc, than a Freelance whose asked for 100 US$ or 100 Euro is just not resonable.
So, I didn't took one girl from Block M, though I enjoyed to flirt, talk and dance with girls. I just didn't felt the need to pay so much for sex. But, after 3 days the girls knew me well and that I didn't took one of them. So, they were a bit pissed. ;)[/QUOTE]

Really, you pay 23 Euros for a lady in a Frankfurt FKK? I've never heard of such cheap pussy in Germany.

When the ladies see a foreigner, they often give inflated prices. Most of the time 300k or 400k will secure a short time session. LT maybe 500k-700k. Never pay the asking price. Yes, there are some girls who won't budge, but there are plenty of other girls to choose from.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Really, you pay 23 Euros for a lady in a Frankfurt FKK? I've never heard of such cheap pussy in Germany.

When the ladies see a foreigner, they often give inflated prices. Most of the time 300k or 400k will secure a short time session. LT maybe 500k-700k. Never pay the asking price. Yes, there are some girls who won't budge, but there are plenty of other girls to choose from.[/QUOTE]

Ah, you need some insider info about Frankfurt? I am from Frankfurt, but the info is not so secret. In Frankfurt at Main Railway Station and at Breite Gasse, there are several Brothels. Houses were many floors and rooms. Ladies stay usually in the open Door or laying on the bed. They come from all over the world, East Europe, South America, Turkey, Asia and Europe. The going rates are 20 - 30 Euro for sucking and fucking several positions 20 minute. It's mostly enough time, since you do not shower first. There are quite pretty girls there. Of course no kissing and sex is a bit mechanical. But, service is better as I experienced in Travel Hotel.
Ok, but that is off topic, just because you asked for. Well, to get back to topic, I were in Jakarta about 15- 18 years ago. At that time there was a similar brothel like the German ones in a shopping mall in Jakarta. I do not more remember the name of the shopping mall, but as far I remember it was on the upper floors of a shopping mall. maybe 2 or 3 floors with girls staying on the floor. Men could walk through the floors and negociate with the girls.

Regarding Freelancer on Block M. True if one negotiate with a less pretty girl he might get a ST for 300.000 or 400.000 Rupiah. True they might still quite pretty. But, after almost 4 weeks Thailand and together with a pretty girl, I did not want to have sex with a average girl. A Stunner or Travel Hotel, or Classic Hotel was my thought. So, the real top looker in Top Gun will always find Clients whose pay 1000000. So, no deal, but I wasn't too sad about. Since for me the hunt is more important, than the actual act.

[QUOTE=DG69]
But, for that I do not need to go to Indonesia. Pretty girls from all over the world you will also find in Frankfurts Bordell for about the same money, with a even better performance. ;) [/QUOTE]

Are you telling me that in Frankfurt they charge less than 30 dollars? A couple of years ago, the minimum price at Pascha in Koln was 50 euro!


[QUOTE=DG69]
Though they asked for silly prices. In block M (Top Gun) I was often and the I became good responce from the girls. Since, most other men where older expats, so I could choose the most beautiful ones. Though I didn't took one, since they asked about 800.000 to 1.000.000 Rupiah. Maybe the not so pretty ones are cheaper, though if you can have a beautiful girl in Travel Hotel for 270.000 incl Room, Condom, etc, than a Freelance whose asked for 100 US$ or 100 Euro is just not resonable.
[/QUOTE]

They must have noticed that you were a newbie over there. Maybe you should have done some RTFF (Vorbereitung, Vorbereitung, mein Bester!) on the Blok M prices. It's been mentioned many times. Getting them early or late at night will help also.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Are you telling me that in Frankfurt they charge less than 30 dollars? A couple of years ago, the minimum price at Pascha in Koln was 50 euro![/QUOTE]

Yes, indeed. That is what I wrote and it's the true. Read the Frankfurt Thread if you don't believe me. The rate in Frankfurt is 25 Euro, but in some houses are less and in some more. The range is 20 - 30 Euro. You can even have anal for 40-50 Euro. Of course not all girls provide. Girls from Turkey are often open this. Koeln is more expensive, because less competition I think. In Frankfurt there are about 12 - 15 houses like Pascha. But, also alot of FKK-Clubs. They are more expensive, there you pay 50 Euro entrance for the Club, incl. Buffet and Spa and than about 50 Euro pro pop (1 hour).


[QUOTE=Menteng]They must have noticed that you were a newbie over there. Maybe you should have done some RTFF (Vorbereitung, Vorbereitung, mein Bester!) on the Blok M prices. It's been mentioned many times. Getting them early or late at night will help also.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that I am such a newbie. As I wrote I was in Indonesia before. I were in Jakarta, Surabaya, Jokjakarta and of course Bali. Though long time ago. Anyway I didn't act stupid I think. I didn't rushed, I didn't showed too big interest. I flirt, I didn't approache, I got approached.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the people from Indonesia. The wast majority was friendly, helpful and honest. Though I think Jakarta is not the best place for p4p, especially since the city has no much attractions, is incredible dirty and traffic is awful. If you live there than you can have a nice time, since it's easy to get in contact with normal (good girls). Though the hunting girls (prostitutes) are not worth the travel to Jakarta. I would prefer Thailand, Philippines. Cambodia and Vietnam might be also a woth a try, but I think I will not more go to Jakarta for vacation.

[QUOTE=Menteng]
You do have to enter the lobby at Melawai I, but walk straight to the elevators that are located opposite of the main entrance. You'll be noticed anyway, but don't bother. Since hardly any bulai stays there anymore, they'll know you are there for the 6th floor. :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they don't bother about security either.
Recently I had enough time left after a local flight, so I checked in for my flight back to Europe (Garuda allows this a long time before the flight) and went with my carry on bags to Blok M. Nobody batted an eyelid when I took my bags to the 6th floor. And indeed, in the elevator an Indonesian took a look atme and said "Lantai 6?". It is obvious.
Some pictures in the Photo Gallery of two girls I took with me. At first I intended to take only one, but then the second attracted my attention by dancing in an ultra-short dress, so it became a threesome. The second one (unfortunately their names didn't register, I am terrible at that) turned out to have some surprises. Bald pussy, amazingly good BBBJ and an even better than expected fuck.
I have experiences in both T and Maribaya (more in Maribaya though) but give methe Maribaya girls anytime for friendlyness and customer satisfaction.

I found already some informations and the address of Red Square.

I think it is more a disco with some freelancers and also regular guests.
Also females that are only going there to have a good time (no working girls).

Is it the same price level over there then in Blok M because I couldn´t find informations about that.

Germany: I am from Hamburg and we have the Steindamm area close to the main train station. There you can get also a fuck for 25 to 30 €. Is it a cheap redlight district but also known for drugs etc. It is not very clean there and a lot of girls needs money to buy drugs for themselves. Service is mechanical (just sex) no Gf feeling or so. (Normal rate in Hamburg for a good house is 100 up to 150 € for one hour).

Blok M: Sometimes I get quoted 600 to 800k but untill now I could get my girl back to the hotel for 500k LT. Seldom they deny and try to stick to the price. I can speak a little bit bahasa and that helps. Normally I am also one of the younger guys there.

[QUOTE=DG69]I don't think that I am such a newbie. As I wrote I was in Indonesia before. I were in Jakarta, Surabaya, Jokjakarta and of course Bali. Though long time ago. Anyway I didn't act stupid I think. I didn't rushed, I didn't showed too big interest. I flirt, I didn't approache, I got approached.

Don't get me wrong, I liked the people from Indonesia. The wast majority was friendly, helpful and honest. Though I think Jakarta is not the best place for p4p, especially since the city has no much attractions, is incredible dirty and traffic is awful. If you live there than you can have a nice time, since it's easy to get in contact with normal (good girls). Though the hunting girls (prostitutes) are not worth the travel to Jakarta. I would prefer Thailand, Philippines. Cambodia and Vietnam might be also a woth a try, but I think I will not more go to Jakarta for vacation.[/QUOTE]
I'm sad for you DG69 but maybe it's no bad thing to have fewer "hunters" in Jakarta. The girls are much more astute and much quicker to spot someone less familiar - even if you don't seem to do anything stupid. Speaking the local language helps too. I'm shocked when you say there are girls in Top Gun asking for 1 million as that is far too much for that kind of location. You will always be approached if you're in that kind of place and a foreigner - let alone a (relatively young) bule. As a 46yo Asian, I tend to find that I have more work to do - but I would still never accept such prices especially at such a venue!

Incidentally, you don't have to be a local resident to hunt normal girls. I'm only ever there for 3 or 4 nights at a time, and it's still sufficient provided you do some homework first. Like anywhere else, the more fun you are, the more likely you are to succeed. Shortest time from first physically meeting a girl to getting her to bed with no commercial transaction was less than half an hour (she met me in my hotel). Admittedly this only happened once, but there have been many occasions where it only took a few hours.
[QUOTE=Hungry Expat]I found already some informations and the address of Red Square.

I think it is more a disco with some freelancers and also regular guests.
Also females that are only going there to have a good time (no working girls).

Is it the same price level over there then in Blok M because I couldn´t find informations about that.

Blok M: Sometimes I get quoted 600 to 800k but untill now I could get my girl back to the hotel for 500k LT. Seldom they deny and try to stick to the price. I can speak a little bit bahasa and that helps. Normally I am also one of the younger guys there.[/QUOTE]
The girls are very good at spotting guys who are just that little bit less familiar and take full advantage. It's that and the occasional guy who really doesn't know his way around and falls sucker to the prices quoted. Red Square is very much as you say it is. There is a mix of girls there - quite a few non-commercial. I've met quite a few who go there just for a girls night out, but they are susceptible to someone who can hit them with the right approach. I have never pulled a commercial girl out of there, but I have heard of a few from friends. Generally not a place I would like to go to alone though... YMMV

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]I'm sad for you DG69 but maybe it's no bad thing to have fewer "hunters" in Jakarta. [/QUOTE]

Don't worry about me, Master Diver, I didn't felt sad or disappointed. I were in a special situation. I have a long holiday and I were in Thailand in for 4 weeks, but have to leave for a visa run. I choosed Jakarta, this time, in a similar situation I choosed Manila. I wasn't to eager to find somebody and I had of course some opportunities. I also got quoted for 500.000 LT from quite pretty girls. I refused, since I had a all or nothing policy. The top stunner for 600.000 I would have taken, but not a lesser for that amount.
I just was sexual exhausted after 4 weeks Thailand I hoped to find a fotomodel look alike in Jakarta whose could top my Thai experience. But, I am not to disappointed about the fact that this didn't happend. I made good experience with Indonesien people, they are friendly and nice. Just the city is very dirty, transportation is difficult (grid lock and long traffic light waiting times), not much to see. Monas is Ok, but Taman Mini Indonesia was disappointing. I saw it before, (about 18 years before) but in my memory it was much better, than I experienced now. Well, I have no bad feeling against Jakarta, or Indonesia, just I wouldn't travel there again, since there are better places to go imho. :)

Kept this brief - I see this abbreviation frequently here but don't know it. Usually used in context "met her at DIA". Hope someone can help!

DIA is the abbreviation for DateinAsia which is a dating website. Just google it.

[QUOTE=Enak Lezatnya]Kept this brief - I see this abbreviation frequently here but don't know it. Usually used in context "met her at DIA". Hope someone can help![/QUOTE]