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[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2398394]Even though I am doing just fine financially and could spend that kind of money on a night out, it's just not worth it to me. I just don't find the experience more satisfying then when I was spending less than 3 k for that on a full night out. And that was with a 40 plus exchange rate. If I spent 10 k on an evening out, I'd think, wow, could have had a really nice pair of Japanese selvedge denim or a new pair of Red Wings for that. I'll take soi 4 or the oilies and spend the rest on something else. Now, if I was getting a 10 plus in looks and a PSE over the top for that three hundred, I might do it once in awhile. To each his own.[/QUOTE]To each his own. Exactly.
I don't buy expensive clothes, lots of shoes etc. In fact I generally buy nothing here except low end Tshirts and such like since every type of luxury good or most electronics I would ever buy is cheaper in the USA. I was looking at watches the other day and they had one for $6000 US equivalent that I could buy in the US with sales tax for $3 K.
Look at it this way, just as an estimate.
Cab to dinner 100.
Dinner 500 (assuming I don't eatigo a buffet and if I do, double that).
Cab to first venue 100.
Cab to second venue 100.
Entrance fee 2 venues 700.
Two drinks each venue 1000.
Buy a drink for a chick and another one for me 500.
Cab to lair of love 100.
Looky I'm over 3000 already and I haven't even tipped my GF for the evening.
I'm 64 years old and when I decide to go out, I'm going to go out. Can't take it with you. Thank god my limit is 4-5 drinks, unlike when I was in drinking shape.
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All Hail Mr. Bumpo!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2398185]My next trip is clocking in at 12 weeks: 7. 5 weeks in BKK, 8 nights in Pattaya, 3 nights in Yangon, and 3 weeks in Jakarta. So I will have plenty of time in BKK for my favorite girls and plenty of time to meet a lot of new girls especially since I average 1.25 girls a night.[/QUOTE]I am not worthy.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc[/URL]
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Natty Bumpo,
An enviable itinerary my friend! But I have a question. What do you do with one-fourth of a girl? Perhaps it is just her head and she is giving you head hahahahahaha.
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I am not worthy either
[QUOTE=Bunky;2398432]I am not worthy.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc[/URL][/QUOTE]The guys I take my hat off to are the players who can walk into a nightclub solo, pick out 2 or 3 stewardesses or models at a private table, charm them, get them laughing in the 1st minute of conversation, buy a bottle, dance all night, and wind up shagging at least one of the girls.
In my yute (youth) I used to pick up a lot of girls in bars. I guess that's one of the reasons I like the Go Go scene so much. It reminds me of those early days and I feel very at home in that setting. But even back in those early days there were a couple of my friends who could run circles around my moves with girls. Those guys had game and made picking up girls anywhere look so easy. I never let them know it, but I was envious of their natural, or so it seemed to me at the time, God given talent. Ha Ha.
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Social Media?
[QUOTE=Dirk67;2397767]By "social media", do you mean FB, Instagram? Or do you mean Tinder, and other dating apps? I have gone on quite a few dates that didn't lead anywhere (mainly due to my lack of interest, or in one case, hers), but my most successful non-pro experiences have been (and ongoing with a couple) with girls I've approached in person.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what the previous poster used, but during this lengthy trip, I've had my best luck with TF, Tinder and Instagram. The TF women I met online before I arrived, so was playing the long game there. One was P4P and two were not, but they always find a way to get something out of you, dinner or drinks or both. Tinder was good to fill an immediate need, and I met two on IG who were part time FLs as they both had jobs, one at Hooters on Soi 4 and the other at a hotel. And one of the TF girls became a part time GF and we had a spectacular time. Unfortunately, she was a Thai living abroad so was only back a month to visit family.
Compare that with several less than memorable experiences with Nana Go Go girls, an okay bargirl experience from one of the Hillary's, and a really good GFE with a 24 year old From Beer Garden, and I think the social media / online route isn't too bad if you want to put in a little effort. It's a trade-off of time vs quality, though nothing is a sure thing. I can tell you that for the 3 I met on Thai Friendly, I thought I had a list of 15 women to meet when I arrived, but they would disappear. A word of advice here: never plan to meet with a woman you've not communicated with off a SM or dating platform (E. G, Line) or met in person before because chances are she will not show up. A lot of them use translators to communicate, so don't speak English, so don't have the courage to meet you. I wasted one evening at Spectrum skybar to learn that lesson. And it helped me by asking more questions with women I chatted with in the future.
I posted today about my experience at Doki Doki too and would put that one on the 'plus' side, thanks to the folks on that board who recommended it. Good immediate solution.
My experiences with the typical FL and Thermae girl lead no where, so didn't bother with that too much. Asking price was ridiculous. But I think I would like to try Smooci sometime to see if that can also fill the 'got to have it now' need with a reasonable quality girl. We'll see.
Just to put this into perspective, if I can meet women, anyone can. I'm 60, good shape, but hardly a catch for a 21 year old unless she's a pro who likes the size of my, er, wallet.
My 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=DCups;2398434]An enviable itinerary my friend! But I have a question. What do you do with one-fourth of a girl? Perhaps it is just her head and she is giving you head hahahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Naw, head don't count. I view BBBJ's as an aperitif or foreplay before sexual intercourse which for me is almost always vaginal sex with or without glove.
It's just math. If I do 14 girls in 10 nights it averages out to 1.4 girls a night. 12 girls in 10 nights is 1.2 girls a night. So my average over many years worth of travel is pretty consistently pegged at around 1.25 girls per night per trip. The funny thing is that I usually start out doing 1 girl a night, but as the trip goes on, something happens, and I start doing more girls per night. I would have thought it would be the opposite ie that I would do more girls early on when fresher and less girls later on when more sated, but no, I tend to do more girls towards the end of a trip than at the beginning. I guess I just get into the groove and let it roll.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2398509]Naw, head don't count. I view BBBJ's as an aperitif or foreplay before sexual intercourse which for me is almost always vaginal sex with or without glove.............[/QUOTE]Sometimes head could be just as good or even feel better than vaginal sex. I don't get that very often but when I session a girl who does it in a way that just feels toe curling amazing I allow her to take me to fruition.
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Question
Hi everyone,
Sorry if this is in wrong thread. Anyone staying near Sofitel this week, and don't mind a newbie tagging along at night to see how things work? Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2398419]To each his own. Exactly.
I don't buy expensive clothes, lots of shoes etc. In fact I generally buy nothing here except low end Tshirts and such like since every type of luxury good or most electronics I would ever buy is cheaper in the USA. I was looking at watches the other day and they had one for $6000 US equivalent that I could buy in the US with sales tax for $3 K.
Look at it this way, just as an estimate.
Cab to dinner 100.
Dinner 500 (assuming I don't eatigo a buffet and if I do, double that).
Cab to first venue 100.
Cab to second venue 100.
Entrance fee 2 venues 700.
Two drinks each venue 1000.
Buy a drink for a chick and another one for me 500.
Cab to lair of love 100.
Looky I'm over 3000 already and I haven't even tipped my GF for the evening.
I'm 64 years old and when I decide to go out, I'm going to go out. Can't take it with you. Thank god my limit is 4-5 drinks, unlike when I was in drinking shape.[/QUOTE]I've lived here, 20 years noe in fact. What things cost in the states is of no consequence to me. I do have friends bring over things that are cheaper in the US though, but I live here, so it is local costs that are of concern to me.
I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st.
Additionally, I have no desire for interaction beyond the act with p4 p gals. Hanging out at a disco or gogo bar hearing the same thing I've heard for ages is just not the slightest bit interesting. It's not like I'm going to get into a discussion about the latest Murakami book I've read with a Thai hooker. When I want to shag, I go shag and when I go out, it's with friends who I can converse with. When mates are in town and want to hit the gogos, I usually last about 30 min and am then bored to tears.
Unfortunately, Bangkok has become quite expensive for p4 p. And truthfully for many other things. Rents, local food, health insurance, and some transport are still very cheap, but western food, alcohol, and women are pricey. Especially when you consider what locals make. It's the former costs that keep me here. Although I'm looking at other places.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2398579]Sometimes head could be just as good or even feel better than vaginal sex. I don't get that very often but when I session a girl who does it in a way that just feels toe curling amazing I allow her to take me to fruition.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. Head (haven't used that term in a long time. Nostalgia. LOL) to a CIM finish definitely counts in my book. Bonus points for the clean and simple Swallow finish, of course. But good Head in Thailand is not a snap, imo, not even in the BJ Bars. Passable Head is plentiful in many venues, however. I'm only talking about female providers here. I have no experience with it otherwise.
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Questions about Spasso
I'm a frequent visitor to Bkk and have mongered via various channels, my preference being escorts, Smooci, Nana, and the occasional MP / oily / soapy / BJ bar. However, I have never tried picking up freelancers at bars / clubs such as Mixx, Levels, Insanity, Spasso, etc. Mostly because I don't drink alcohol and cannot tolerate cigarette smoke.
However, after RTFF, I am very curious about Spasso and have decided to try it on my next visit. My understanding is that Spasso typically has high-class, slightly older to milfy ladies dressed elegantly in cocktail dresses, and tend to be more expensive than the average wg. I also read that the ladies can be a mixed bag of ethnicities, ranging from Thai, to other Southeast Asian, Latina, and Central Asian. I am very much into older women (35-45).
Would love to hear the feedback of the wise men on this forum on what I can expect at Spasso. Specifically:
- How much is the going rate for ST / LT? How many shots do I get? I read somewhere that ST is 5 k? Price is not really an issue for me, as long as I'm getting solid service.
- What is the overall quality of girls, both in terms of looks and service? I realize this is highly subjective, and there will always be duds and gems anywhere. Just looking for a rough sense based on your experience. I'm expecting it to be a crapshoot like Thermae.
- How well will the ladies react to someone of my profile: solo, late 30's but look young, East Asian origin but grew up in West, well-dressed, tall. Given the ladies tend to be older, will they ignore me due to my youthful looks? Do they prefer white guys?
Thanks!
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Re Viets in soi 4
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2398624]I partake at oilies and very rarely soi 4. I would venture to say the Viets on soi 4 at present will be far better looking than what you see in the discos these days. And they're 2 k st. [/QUOTE]I usually go to MPs too, but I'm curious about these Viets in soi 4. Where in soi 4 can they be found, and is there a certain time when they are there?
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Beer Garden, Soi 7, Ice
Arrived in Bangkok around 3 PM, brought from Pattaya by Namm's taxi service. These lady drivers are wonderful, 1,500 baht from Soi 6 Pattaya to Sukhumvit Soi 7. Safe, friendly, funny and enjoyable.
I saw some Cialis for sale on the street, and since I have never tried it before I bought 4 20 MG pills for 200 baht. I have no idea if it is real or not, thought I would give it a try.
After checking in at the iCheck Inn Nana on Soi 7/1, I beelined over to Beer Garden at about 5:00 PM (Monday). My first impression is that the bar is much larger than I envisioned. There must have been 20+ women there, most of them looked a bit long in the tooth, but a good lot of them doable in my book. I made eye contact with a slim lady in a red jumpsuit with spaghetti straps. After I sat and got my beer, she came over. Ice is her name and she had a pretty face and a confident manner. Her English is very good. We chatted, hugged, shared drinks and I invited her to come to my room at 7. She shyly said, "Can I ask for 2,000 baht?" I told her she could ask for it but I would only pay her 1,500. I told her she could earn the rest as a tip. I had a few things to do before I entertained. I gave her some baht so she could stop at the 7-11 and bring beer and water, and get a bite to eat for herself.
At 7 the phone rang and I told the desk to send her up. Ice is a great DFKer, and off came our clothes. Ice has a wonderful, lithe body with I guess a 34 see rack and is about 156 cm tall. She has a little rash on her stomach, but it didn't bother me. She has no children and surprised me when she told me she will be 45 next January.
We touched all the bases, DFK, FIV, DATY, BBBJ was phenomenal. She rode me cowgirl to a shattering orgasm. It was so intense it left me gasping for breath. Ice knew just how to ride me, and it was wonderful.
We talked for a while. She is very well read and intelligent. I was impressed at her knowledge. Round 2 was almost as intense as round 1. My second shot is usually hard earned, and Ice did the work to get us there. She ate her food afterwards and we talked some more. I mentioned I needed to find a laundry for my dirty clothes. She called the lobby and they told her of a foot massage parlor just past Wood Bar that does laundry. We dressed and she took me there and arranged for my laundry to be done and delivered to the hotel next day. The woman earned her tip and then some. I gave her 2,500 and got her line ID. I hope I can fit her in before I leave Sunday night.
Body: 7. 5.
Appearance: 7. 5.
Attitude: 8. 5.
Service: 9. 0.
Total Damage: 2,500 baht and she helped me get my undies washed!
WIR: Yes.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2398632]Agree 100%. Head (haven't used that term in a long time. Nostalgia. LOL) to a CIM finish definitely counts in my book. Bonus points for the clean and simple Swallow finish, of course. But good Head in Thailand is not a snap, imo, not even in the BJ Bars. Passable Head is plentiful in many venues, however. [/QUOTE]Head counts, ha ha, anything that turns you on counts in my book. I was just saying that for me, good head (I like the term. Thanks DCups. It's old school) is like an aperitif to get things going. The best head I have had in the last 10 years took place in BKK Soapies like the Lord (gone but not forgotten) & La Belle, a couple of PSE Oilies like Mango, Macau Saunas like Rio, Familia Nobre, and Darling 1 although technically speaking Darling 1 is more a soapy not a sauna, and Jakarta Bordellos like Malio & Alexis. The common trait to all of those superlative experiences was that the girl really knew what she was doing AND she acted like she was into making love to my dick with her mouth. But most of the blow jobs that I have had in Thailand have been ok, but nothing to write home about. A few have been a complete waste of time. Apparently there is a value added component to the massage parlor (PSE & Soapy), sauna, bordello venue that creates the higher probability of receiving really good head. Go Go girls & FL's have had less instruction if any and basically wing it. Some can show a natural enthusiasm, but generally they lack any real technique.
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[QUOTE=Ajlon;2398687]I usually go to MPs too, but I'm curious about these Viets in soi 4. Where in soi 4 can they be found, and is there a certain time when they are there?[/QUOTE]Most are past the cut through to soi 2. Some will even be in front of Hooters. Seen them as early as 830 pm.