Berlin

Did someone know these Girls (mature)?

Thanks

[url]http://www.sweet-body-massage.de/images/models_gal/Jana/index.html[/url]

[url]http://www.ritter11.de/bordell-girls/sammy.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Kimino;1397614]Just left Liberty. Went in the downstairs floor, with Chris. I confirm she is great. From Berlin, late twenties at least. Blonde, lots of tatoos. Very naughty but can also be very sweet, we talked a bit after the session. Recommended. And recommended Liberty as a place. The downstair floor has very nice rooms with jacuzi, the toilet / shower is huge. We could say "Classy".40 min, BBBJ, dfk, cim / cof (very very well done).130euro + tip (if you want, not asked by her).[/QUOTE]Actually, I was there a few hours after you, for the first time in ages.

For RB, the extended story, haha. I just had a short stint in Berlin this time, and was already at the train station about to leave without any mongering ventures or much spare time at all. But I was bit early, and saw that the train I was supposed to take was going to be well late, so I thought f* that, stored the bags, and took a quick detour to Liberty. Actually, it's always the same story, all the trains running fine, only in Berlin all hell breaks loose. I already have had an S-Bahn story to tell.

The line-up at Liberty was so-so. Lots of new black girls. 4 or 5 overall, but not any real beauties. Linda who was also at the parade, as always, is still the prettiest black pearl. Was tempted by Linda and Chris, what I can confirm is that Chris looks a lot better than on the website photos, don't think she's older than late 20s and had a charming way in the parade. But all those tattoos, that's just not my style, like an advertising column. Much more my style was new (to me) Patricia, cute size 36/38 Polish brunette, B / C cups, nice smile, face, body. Only one small, and one tiny tattoo. Probably mid 20s, didn't ask. Fun and good girl, recommended. For the statisticians 1 hr, BBBJ, DFK, all good, not the best ever, but quite lovely. She's likely the one the website, but not blonde at the moment, probably with her natural color at present.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1398995]Actually, I was there a few hours after you, for the first time in ages.[/QUOTE]Pity we didn't meet. I agree with you that the lineup was lighter this time, but I went there just for Chris. Was actually thinking not to even look at the parade, but being there, why not? :)

Kimino

Last week I visited Berlin. When I travelled several times to Bucarest (greetings to eastgoing – what do you think is an east-european country which is worth to go for mongering.) I could not get contact to one of those beautyful romainian girls. So I tought the best would be to meet one of them in Berlin, for example in Artemis Club.

It was in the afternoon, many good looking girls in the bar but no wonderful romainien girl at this time. So I talked with a girl from Slovakia with the name „Fatima', she looked great, slim body, long „romainian' black hair (not for big tits lovers). She was very nice and soon we went upstairs.

She gave long intense blowjob, I could fingert her pussy for long time, to lick nice pussy is possible and I think, she looked not for the minute. After the 30 minutes I was totally satisfied. Big recommendation!

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/img_0078/[/url]

She did not wear those boots. She works in the afternoon, leaves Artemis mostly at 22. 00.

If you want to spend less money, I think a good adress is ameliya Massage in Blissestr. (near kamilla)

[url]http://ameliya.de/team.aspx[/url]

And here for example Elle, also nice, slim lady and you can touch her (not pussy for me) the hole time. Only HE but interesting. 80€ for ¾ hour.

I was only a tourist and envy you Berlin guys.

Hi Siggy,

Romania still stands in my opinion, but honestly Germany saves you a lot of time (not of money though) , as you can easily find the targets to hit and they are probably in the safest premises.

I had tried to phone Caligula for infos on the advertised number more than once, but never got answered. From what I can understand from their internet site, entering before 15 o'clock will let you pay 79 instead of 99, but give you equal rights. I went there at about 2 pm. There was a tall guy at the entrance, not great english speaking, forget the cashier, I understood that with 79 euros I could stay until 8 pm. Since I was planning to leave earlier than that, I didn't bother to question the matter of not being entitled for the whole day. I forked out the correct amount, by the cashier I got a disgusted look and 5 fake one-dollar banknotes, for "jokes with girls". I noticed that the phone number printed on them wasn't the quoted +49 (0) 30 55955 240, and pics and group-photos by the entrance showed very beautiful girls, too good to be true. Then the guy took me to a keylocked "wardrobe room" where all jackets and various customers' belongings were kept, then I was met by a sort of hostess (and dj also) , at least english speaking. She gave me some infos for first timers and was always smiling.

First sight, first impact was really bad. 3-4 unfuckable (not only for my strict standards) girls hanging from poles and 8 men sadly sat around in silence, each one on his own. What a striking difference with Artemis! Discouragement hit me heavily, a teasing voice telling me repeatedly "go to Caligula" from a meeting had few days earlier was echoing in my ears. I asked for a red bull hoping it could pull me up, then decided to get the "less worse" girl, if not else for a BBBJ. The chosen was a tall Romanian, pretty face but that was it, bad attitude, seemed deaf, dumb and even blind: I had to call her 3 times waving my arms while walking towards her to attract her attention (in a desert). How far was Artemis! Ok, lights were a bit low and music volume had just been raised up a bit, probably to prevent "all" people inside from falling asleep, but, once again, a bad start. She made me understand I had to go to her, she was on her own (!). Never the slightest trace of a smile, I managed to understand the provenance but not the name, doubting she could repeat, I gave her 20 for franzosische total, resigned to the course of events. Unpleasant unenthusiastic performance, from time to time she would pause for spitting, anyway in the 20 (very max 25) mins allowed she let me release in her mouth (literally, because she stopped blowing after the first drop was out of my dick). She abandoned me to my papers and redressing procedures, the floor under the "hooks" didn't seem clean at all, I was concerned about my underpants and trousers fallen on it. Out of the room the "hostess" asked me if everything was ok, I smiled wholeheartedly,"yes". I went to the smoking area and a bulgarian guy (not a girl!) , clearly stoned (on drugs?) , tried more than once to establish a contact with me. How loud would have laughed the guy who "encouraged" me."Go to Caligula!"

Once scratched the bottom, I decided I had to react. I asked if and when other girls would come, I was told (or I'd better say "I understood", later it will be clear what I mean) that on afternoons normally there are 7 girls, after 8pm there's a change, normally about 14. Anyway girls on duty were 7, and luckily at 4pm arrived Alexa, self-declared bulgarian 33 years old, I would add a good 20-25%, but great body, better than in pics, great sucking (10 euros extra) and good fucking, I even unloaded! Her presence (and the chance to repeat with her for free) enlightened the day, giving me force and optimism for the future. LOL!

The point was to put together these 3 things: no limit number of attempts, actual minimum 10 euros extra per attempt, chance to release. CIM was 20 and I had understood you had to decide (pay) in advance if you wanted to go for it.

I was approached by a (finally) friendly Romanian girl (finally! Not a guy!) , we chatted for a while. It was only before going to the room that I got the info, from her, that at 18 my time would be over. 18 not 8! I gave her the 5 fake dollars, to her worth 2, 50 real euros, got blown for the allowed time, couldn't release, we quit the matter and she asked me the 10 euros, which I showed her where they were since the beginning of the session. For possible quickthinking readers: this detail means to underline that she was kind not to ask me to pay the extra beforehand, not knowing if I would be able to unload in her mouth or not.

Once out, I tried with the doorman and the hostess to get at least another session, but they said I would have had to pay 20 (or 30?) euros for upgrading my stay. I felt abused and left for my evening program.

After dinner I thought that I hadn't made the most of it. 14 new girls were to come, that was my last evening in Berlin, WTF, go back!

Now there was a new cashier, she took a while to understand what I wanted, but when she did she started swearing in all possible eastern languages, banging papers and what was in front of her. Funny to see her desperation for my request! A guard came, smiling, and called the hostess. Luckily (?) the same of the afternoon.

In brief, more than an hour had passed since I had left earlier, so the price was 99! I didn't negotiate too much, in the end I said "ok. 99, maybe to King George" and left again.

All these possibilities are not listed nor explained on their site, I google translated it. By the way, Angus, you remember our discussion following my post on Aston? It was about the possibility of starting with low fees and then upgrading during the action, as you can see (also at lamour2a) it doesn't work like that, but it's reasonable, otherwise nobody would pay upfront more than minimum price. I'm sorry because I feel I missed something, I was starting enjoying and getting acquainted to it. I'll try again this experience, in full, maybe somewhere else, since they showed, IMHO, zero intelligence, zero comprehension, zero tolerance and zero managing: I was a foreign customer, there had been a misunderstanding (my fault?) , I was in good faith and willing to pay, I went back there a long way on a freezing evening just for them, what was the problem in letting me in? They were afraid I would drink the bar? In the whole afternoon I asked for 2 red bulls, 1 pineapple juice and a glass of still water, not expensive superalcoholics! We'll see, time heals.

One last consideration, even more endorsed than at Artemis: you'd better go with a buddy, dead times are boring (heavily) , not even a pool to relax by. Unless you really put into practice what you are there for: continuous in and out with girls!

Auf Wiedersehen

It's been great fun reading the posts about Berlin so far. I am admittedly not a very experience veteran of FKK clubs. Been to the main ones in FRA and also ColA in Germany. I will be in Berlin for two days in Apr and based on my reading of the forum I would like to try, Artemis, KD and also a tantric experience (thanks to AM for some amazing and interesting reads here and on his blog).

I was planning on making one of the days a full Artemis day, an split the second day BTW KD and a tantric massage place. So I had two questions that I wanted to ask.

1) does this seem to be a realistic plan especially for the second day as I may have about 5-6 hours in total. Or will I be stretching the schedule quite a bit and I should forgo one of the places (possibly KD) for another visit? I saw that Kashima and KD are in somewhat walkable distance.

2) are my alternatives reasonable for a somewhat newbie? Or should I try other venues first and leave these for later?

Thanks,

SD

[QUOTE=Smdrr;1400319]) does this seem to be a realistic plan especially for the second day as I may have about 5-6 hours in total. Or will I be stretching the schedule quite a bit and I should forgo one of the places (possibly KD) for another visit? I saw that Kashima and KD are in somewhat walkable distance.[/QUOTE]One day at Artemis sounds fine but I would personally recommend the tantra massage as a single day event. One really wants to arrive for the massage ready to have an intense experience and after spend some time assimilating said experience. If you must then I would say have the massage first in the early part of the day and then see how you feel in the evening, if you really need a bordello visit.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1400490]One day at Artemis sounds fine but I would personally recommend the tantra massage as a single day event. One really wants to arrive for the massage ready to have an intense experience and after spend some time assimilating said experience. If you must then I would say have the massage first in the early part of the day and then see how you feel in the evening, if you really need a bordello visit.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus. This is reasonable and what I thought. Having looked at the KD website, and their ladies it was hard to let go of it. But I think that it's best to keep it for another time and focus on tantra this time. Does anyone suggest any other massage place over Kashima?

Thank you EastGoing for the helpful report

Since my first language is not English I got little confused about the price part, from the website I thought that the customer pay the 79 or 99 Euro and stay the whole time (11:00. 04:00). If its not like that then can someone clarify the prices for me?

[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1400309]Hi Siggy,

Romania still stands in my opinion, but honestly Germany saves you a lot of time (not of money though) , as you can easily find the targets to hit and they are probably in the safest premises.

I had tried to phone Caligula for infos on the advertised number more than once, but never got answered. From what I can understand from their internet site, entering before 15 o'clock will let you pay 79 instead of 99, but give you equal rights. I went there at about 2 pm. There was a tall guy at the entrance, not great english speaking, forget the cashier, I understood that with 79 euros I could stay until 8 pm. Since I was planning to leave earlier than that, I didn't bother to question the matter of not being entitled for the whole day. I forked out the correct amount, by the cashier I got a disgusted look and 5 fake one-dollar banknotes, for "jokes with girls". I noticed that the phone number printed on them wasn't the quoted +49 (0) 30 55955 240, and pics and group-photos by the entrance showed very beautiful girls, too good to be true. Then the guy took me to a keylocked "wardrobe room" where all jackets and various customers' belongings were kept, then I was met by a sort of hostess (and dj also) , at least english speaking. She gave me some infos for first timers and was always smiling.

[QUOTE=GoldenTiger; 1401192]Thank you EastGoing for the helpful report

Since my first language is not English I got little confused about the price part, from the website I thought that the customer pay the 79 or 99 Euro and stay the whole time (11:00. 04:00). If its not like that then can someone clarify the prices for me?[/QUOTE]Well that is pretty much how it is said on the website. Keep in mind that Caligula is a sleazy brothel and probably not that much concerned with your repeat patronage. That is I would not say that their being completely up front about how things work is their number one priority. It seems if you pay the happy hour price you are expected to leave at 20:00.

AM

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From their website it seems that if you enter before 3pm you pay 79 euros instead of 99, so it seems you get the deal for a minor expense. At the cash desk I understood that I was allowed until 8pm, but I might have misunderstood their bad english and german, and they might have misunderstood my bad german and english (I repeated the given hour. 8pm, and I added "for me it's ok, since I have planned to leave at about 7, 30pm"). Later on, at about 5, 35, when going to have a session, I was told my time would be over at 6pm, pratically after coming out the room. Then they told me that if I wanted to stay longer I should have paid 20 or 30 euros more, I'd say more likely they said 30, honestly I was too disappointed to listen to them. When I went back later in the evening, willing to pay the difference, they said that more than an hour had passed (the only true thing in all the bullshit) , so the amount now was 99! Anyway, apart from language misunderstanding, the "updates" always came up when it was too late, I wasn't told anything like "if you want to come back you have only one hour to change your mind". I hope other ISG members go there and report.

Golden Tiger, you volunteer? (smilie)

EastGoing, Angus Magee. Thanks guys, apparently in both Berlin falt rates (Caligula, King George) the possibility of having a bad day is way higher than the possibility of having a good day, I'm out.

[QUOTE=GoldenTiger;1401502]EastGoing, Angus Magee. Thanks guys, apparently in both Berlin falt rates (Caligula, King George) the possibility of having a bad day is way higher than the possibility of having a good day, I'm out.[/QUOTE]Well sure if you are expecting good sex with a top model. That is not what these places are about obviously. Caligula seems to have some better looking girls (at least if you look at the web site) but is a bit more rough and tumble. The KG I found perfectly acceptable when I went. I would not go there all the time and indeed have never been back, but for the time I was there I felt perfectly satisfied.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1401611]Well sure if you are expecting good sex with a top model. That is not what these places are about obviously. Caligula seems to have some better looking girls (at least if you look at the web site) but is a bit more rough and tumble. The KG I found perfectly acceptable when I went. I would not go there all the time and indeed have never been back, but for the time I was there I felt perfectly satisfied.

AM[/QUOTE]KG reports are less negative than Caligula but almost all the KG reports are talking about the girls asking the customers to buy them drinks or try to make them pay extra money, from my experiences in other countries in such a situations as soon as the girls will realize that I am not going to pay anything extra the attitude, service becomes bad, was it also like that in KG or not?