Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brain666,

Let me first mention that the taxi fair from the new airport to Livingstone's should be around THB 250.00, if you catch a taxi with meter. This as information for all new customers arriving at the airport. The shortest way is to take the tollway above Rama 9, and immediately exit it, exit "Rama 9". There you will have some traffic, but if the taxidriver knows that area he will choose to go to Soi 33 via Petchaburi Road and Sukhumvit Soi 39. Through the backdoor.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

There seems to be a change in the taxi set up at the airport. It happened to me the last trip and I have read other reports here of it happening to other people. Even if you go downstairs and get in line at the taxi stand they will put you in a cab for a flat 400 baht fee and the meter remains off. I got into a bit of an argument with the last driver about it.

From what I can figure out, after asking you where you are going they decide to tell you the fee is a flat 400. If you say yes to that thinking he is just advising you, they pull you out of the line without filling out the usual chit. I guess this way the cabbie and the dispatcher avoid the 50 baht that goes to the airport. It is an easy one to fall for. The good news is the cab does take the tollway, so in the end you are paying pretty close to what you would have anyway. Still it is some sort of a scam since the taxi is going without the meter.

Silly question I know, but can you bring girls back from other bars, clubs, establishments for the night if you are staying at Livingstones, or are you restricted to the girls from in the establishment itself?

Airport to Sukhumvit 33 is 200~250thb Meter.

65 thb Tollway
50 thb Airport Tax

Total : 300~365 thb.

400thb isn't a bad deal, especially if there is Traffic on Sukhumvit.

I've paid 200 BHT (180 BHT on meter, but small tip added) in the morning. And 300 BHT in the afternoon (with 40 BHT for toll road).

I think range between 200 and 400 BHT is fair price.

A tip given to me by a friend who's living in BKK is to go upstairs (at the airport) and catch a taxi which has bring someone to departure flight. Taxi driver will be happy to go back to the city with a customer. I'll check it soon.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Silly question I know, but can you bring girls back from other bars, clubs, establishments for the night if you are staying at Livingstones, or are you restricted to the girls from in the establishment itself?[/QUOTE]

You can bring whatever or whoever you want, as long as it/she can make it up the stairs to the room.

Do yourself a favor, pay Jackson and become a member. You'd be surprised at how many PM you might get before August ;)

Cheers,
Director of Marketing
Giotto's Lodge

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]You can bring whatever or whoever you want, as long as it/she can make it up the stairs to the room.

Do yourself a favor, pay Jackson and become a member. You'd be surprised at how many PM you might get before August ;)

Cheers,

Director of Marketing
Giotto's Lodge[/QUOTE]I am going to become a member. And let the PMS roll

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Silly question I know, but can you bring girls back from other bars, clubs, establishments for the night if you are staying at Livingstones, or are you restricted to the girls from in the establishment itself?[/QUOTE]Big Yuley,

Of course you can bring girls from other bars to your room. No restrictions...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Thor93]There seems to be a change in the taxi set up at the airport. It happened to me the last trip and I have read other reports here of it happening to other people. Even if you go downstairs and get in line at the taxi stand they will put you in a cab for a flat 400 baht fee and the meter remains off. I got into a bit of an argument with the last driver about it.

From what I can figure out, after asking you where you are going they decide to tell you the fee is a flat 400. If you say yes to that thinking he is just advising you, they pull you out of the line without filling out the usual chit. I guess this way the cabbie and the dispatcher avoid the 50 baht that goes to the airport. It is an easy one to fall for. The good news is the cab does take the tollway, so in the end you are paying pretty close to what you would have anyway. Still it is some sort of a scam since the taxi is going without the meter.[/QUOTE]

This was also my thinking. Generally I don't like the non meter setup and I agree its a 'little' scam. However depending on traffic you may end with 50-100 baht extra. So I thought shortly if I should go back and all the way up to departure to catch a cab there to save that 50-100 baht. But what the heck I wanted to come to the girls asap and therefore accepted the surcharge. With a flat 400 baht I also didn't pay any tip (which didn't seem to be expected) as you may do when you round up the sum somehow.

Next time I may go and try the departure floor.

regards

Brain666

I come extremely good along with my ‘cuddle cat’. It will end up that I will barfine her each night, much different as I have planned before. Customer client type relation is completely gone between us (except for payment of course) and we are more like boyfriend and girlfriend now with all advantages and disadvantages going along with it.

Advantage in the room is that she allows herself to satisfy herself without to think on ‘service the customer’. It doesn’t seem that this happened to often to her. Neither Thai guys (e.g. former boyfriends) nor most of the customers seem to take care usually except for probably some ‘duty DATY’ before they start ‘hammering’ the girl. She can come multiple times a session, much more then I can. I have my pleasure ‘providing’ it and I get it returned with love and passion. When not having sex she wraps around me and is breathing like ‘cuddle cat’. She loves to kiss and cuddle.
The disadvantage is some jealousy when talking to close to other girls in the bar.

There is a special case now:
One of the girls, who is not going with customers and is only there making money with drinks was saying she needs to talk with me in a moment ‘cuddle cat’ was not around. She said that she watched me since 2 days. The reason and the sad part of the story is that I may look somehow similar (or remind her) on her husband who died 7 years ago (even if I am westerner and he was Thai/ Chinese). At the end (of course I spend a drink for her) she was staying close to me and needed to grab my arms, touch me and so on. Mama-san was completely confused as she is normally not doing so with any customer and she was probably concerned of the girl (‘what the heck is with her and this guy’) and me (‘hopefully he know that he can’t barfine her’). Also Giotto had some confusing views towards me.
Not easy to deal with, I rewarded with some ‘touching’, but needed to find the right path between my active part, her active parts and ‘cuddle cats’ growing dislike, even if I explained her the reason. Not sure if I managed well. At least cuddle cat needed some special attention (not sex) in the room later ‘for recovery’.

Now to another point:
Spending much time with a girl that likes you, you also get to know the likings and un-likings of the girls with other customers.
Guys I need to talk to you seriously about your behavior. A not to small portion of you are taking Vitamin V for support and with the ‘iron cocks’ created by that you are hammering and hammering the girls almost all night through. Many of you go for record strokes per hour and more or less don’t take any care about the girl.

So the girls rate you about:
50% completely selfish (hammer type) and blasphemous attitude
25% fake caring but finally selfish (1/2 hammer type) but with some efforts to be nice
____ (=1/2 nice as a result).
20% Basically nice guys, trying to give some fair reward for girls who give them pleasure,
____ but have problems to do so. This category girls honor as they reward somehow your
____ best try, even if it is not successful.
5% nice guy’s taking care that girls have a good time first before their pleasure!
____ This category is the one the girls like most,
____ where they can be a woman and not a sex machine only,
____ where they are close to fall in love with regardless the age difference and
____ where they return everything with heart and full engagement to give you a good time.
____ (with me now near top of the list)

So please note that no girls wants the selfish hammer type which hurts them.
Better try to be at least in the second best category. You will be rewarded.

Regards

Brain666

Brain666,

Great Review! Thanks.

I treat all the women I sleep with with respect, but never the same as if they were my girlfriend. I never let it slip from my mind that it is a business transaction, money is involved and the lady gets remuneration in exchange for a service she needs to provide.

Of course, I am not a tourist, I live here so the "Magic" of the whole Scene is different; also, I am 30 years old and probably not looking for the same thing as most members here. I had a relationship and have no desire to have another one. I live by the FFF rule, but that does not mean I am not courteous and unattentive in bed ;)

It is funny how girls will always tell you what you want to hear, most times girls tell me they hate to go with old men because they are dirty and their body does not look nice. I am sure she tells the complete opposite to older clients. These ladies are experts in Ego brushing.

Hi Giotto,

A friend and I are looking to stay at the lodge 18th of May for 3 nights. We have sent a request through to your website as of 10 mins ago, hopefully you can accommodate us :)

We are first time visitors to Thailand and look forward to staying at your place and catching up with you at some point for a chat and for some sage advise.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I am going to become a member. And let the PMS roll[/QUOTE]

Once you get your PM set up (see #1), read on below. Then feel free to pm the resident experts (you'll know who to ask from reading below) for more information. Since you're not coming till Aug, got lots of time, and after all of this, if you still can't get laid, well ???

;)

1. First and foremost, a plug for our venerable host. [b]If you can afford to monger, then you can afford to be a paid member of ISG.[/b] Pay Jackson the subscription fee, get access to PM and you will benefit immensely. If you don’t join, you don’t deserve any help here!
2. FAQ – old but accurate, here’s the link for your lazy bastards: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement.php?f=253[/url]
3. What I consider some classic Reports of Distinction – again POV
* Phuquer’s classic: 5 Nights in Bangkok [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393008&postcount=2[/url]
* [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563812[/url]
* [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563828[/url]
* [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2590[/url]
4. Specific interests: go to that thread and do a simple search, or read back last 5-10 pages….even the chit chat. You’ll figure out fairly soon which members to ask whch questions via your new PM tool J
5. Rookie vs newbie questions (and there is a difference): go to Giotto’s and there is dedicated thread just for you. And yes, Giotto is a pimp but an honest one! [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2615[/url]
6. Many hotels GFE, if in doubt, ask and you’d be surprised how honest and unabashed their reply will be.
7. Learn to speak some of the local dialect and here’s a place to start, compliments of Daddy and Mick: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=576887&postcount=118[/url]
8. Think with your brain and not your dick…use each god given tool in the correct manner: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470629&postcount=79[/url]
9. Don’t ever forget: “You pay for her to leave after the deed, and not to stay behind. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477731&postcount=39[/url]
10. Reciprocate and post a report after your visit, we luv to hear back and hope you become a regular.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234] 5. Rookie vs newbie questions (and there is a difference): go to Giotto’s and there is dedicated thread just for you. And yes, Giotto is a pimp but an honest one! [/QUOTE]

I feel compelled to sort of defend Giotto's honor here. As WEBSTER's Dictionary says, "a pimp is a man who solicits clients for a prostitute." We certainly would not want any newbies think that is what he does.

Giotto is actually merely a Hotelier, "a proprietor or manager of a hotel". Of course part of this hotel is the Sports Lounge in which work many fine young ladies who are willing to spend time with willing gentlemen. While many of these fine young ladies might fit the definition of prostitute - "a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse especially for money", technically that sort of activity is totally out of the control of the management of the hotel.

And in case someone asks, the barfine is merely compensation to the managment for taking away the services of one of their workers. It is no guarantee of anything more than your right to have the young lady leave the premises with you prior to quitting time.

So therefore we really should refrain from ever labeling Herr Doktor G as a pimp, lest someone get the wrong idea.

And yes it is a rather slow and boring afternoon being stuck here back in the US, daydreaming of when I can get back to Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Thor93]
And yes it is a rather slow and boring afternoon being stuck here back in the US, [b]daydreaming of when I can get back to Bangkok[/b].[/QUOTE]

Amen to that!

I'm be in your area for 18 holes tomorrow :)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Amen to that!

I'm be in your area for 18 holes tomorrow :)[/QUOTE]

The only saving grace is that I just booked a trip to Brazil and Colombia at the end of the month. Perhaps some Latin chicas will make up for not being able to get back to Thailand until June. But then, I will traveling with my boss and sneaking someone into the room at night might be very tough.