A Naive Guide to Mongering in Tallinn, version 1.0
this report is a result of reading the forum and exploring tallinn for three nights on my own, first time there. my mongering style these days is to enjoy the game of looking for it, and partake when i find something i like, not too urgent. i am looking mainly for company in my hotel.
when you learn things about mongering wherever you go, please report them in the forum to help the rest of us, even if it is short.
[b]non-pro's on a saturday night in city center[/b]
walking near hotel sakos viru on a saturday night around 1am, i got a friendly smile from one of three ladies heading into a bar. clearly not working girls: a different kind of eye contact than "the look," more like a friendly flirt. i followed them in to cafe amigo (ground level of hotel sakos viru, a landmark in city center at the end of viru street).
long story short, they were friendly and glad to have my company, and for me to buy them drinks of course. i think i almost had the one who spoke the best english. feedback from a friend: i should have waited until the bar closed. they don't want to be seen as "easy" and leave with me before then, but if you're outside and the conversation is "where should we go" it might lead to the room. the places closes at 5am, i think, and i was bushed.
they were mostly interested in estonians, and they rejected an offer from some finnish guys while i was there. they hated russians - talked a lot about that. i'm from usa, which seemed to be ok with them.
it wasn't all that expensive to buy a bunch of drinks - i figure i spent around us$56 total, including the door fee for me. i generally have not been really lucky with the non-pro scene, and i found the experience encouraging.
[b]wgs on the street and in clubs[/b]
another report here said that cafe amigo has working girls, too. i had not read it, and thus was not looking for them, but i did not see any obvious wgs. indeed, i did not see any on the streets that have been discussed here, even in the later evenings on saturday, sunday, monday.
[b]reval hotel olümpia and clubs there[/b]
my hotel was the reval hotel olümpia (on the edge of city center, corner liivalaia and a. lauteri). the elevators are in front, and the reception desk is around the corner, so it seems like it would be easy to go right up with a lady without any hotel discussion. i was amused to find two condoms in the minibar.
on my last night, i was walking by englishman's pub (ground level at reval hotel olümpia), a lady who had been in the toilet said hello as she returned to the bar. i took that as an invitation to discuss business. we chatted awhile, she was fluent in english. long story short: she was happy to go to my room with me, but she asked for 3000 eek, almost $250, and went down to 2000 eek. i did not bargain mush because i did not expect her to get to a price i was willing to pay (like 1000). there were four other ladies in waiting. i would put them in their 30s or early 40s, not bad looking for their age, but nothing like beautiful young babes either. i expect their customers are probably older/middle-aged businessmen.
also in the ground level at reval hotel olümpia is a club called bonnie and clyde's. i am told there are some working girls there, but the line to get in on a saturday night seemed to be younger, well-dressed estonian men and women, perhaps younger than the average at cafe amigo. thus you might try for a regular local girl at one of these two places, choosing on the basis of your age.
[b]other options around city center and old town[/b]
city center has some strip clubs which are discussed in this forum, and probably a place you can get action, and probably not cheaply. you could also spend a lot on lady drinks if you aren't careful. old town (adjacent to city center) has some massage places discussed in this thread, and others. i did not try them, but i expect that some or most offer at least hj service, but some might be therapeutic only (i.e. no extras). you'll find urls to some escort sites in reports on this thread, including one advertiser and a report from a guy who met her. the apartment scene is reportedly substantially less available, but not gone either. finally, there are a number of sex shops all over the place where you can get supplies and toys.
[b]summary[/b]
overall i would say tallinn was neither hopping with activity, nor dead. you could find it if you want it enough to pay the money. i don't think it is a place to find bargains.
[b]some recent reports i found useful[/b]
[list][*]james331 on [post=499620]old town[/post][*]tradsweet on [post=478638]tallinn mid june[/post][*]zadig on [post=449236]dekada (?)[/post][*]brillo meets [post=415549]maria who advertises here[/post][*]maria advertising [post=425263]an escort agency[/post][*]neurosynth gives [post=413976]an overview of mongering in tallinn[/post][/list]
[if you find this report useful, take a moment and post it in the reports of distinction. somehow it seems presumptuous to post one's own there.]
The steady decline of free sex in Latvia and Estonia.
I have an old mate who is a serious sex tourist, now in his 40’s and living in Thailand. Lets call him Jim, and like me his weakness is sex. He also reads all the sex forums but rarely ever writes. He is home on holiday at the moment, and we got around to comparing our various sexploits around the world. This guy used to visit Germany in the late 80’s and did the whole FKK thing before there were many FKK clubs.
We were out for a drink tonite, and he then showed me some interesting video. He reckoned that the best places he ever went for free sex in Europe were Latvia and Estonia. He first visited with work in 1993. He says that back then there were almost no bars or restaurants in either Tallinn or Riga. Both countries were fresh out of communism, and they were really gloomy places. But the women just used to hang around everywhere, and in the city centre they would literally walk up to foreign guys, and try and chat in their broken English. He says some of them were sneaky and only wanted to be brought to a restaurant, and then they would fuck off home, but quite a few would agree to have sex after a meal or some drinks.
He showed me some video footage that he since transferred to his laptop, which he shot in June 1993 of the main square in Tallinn, and you could clearly see groups of girls just standing around. It was around 8pm, and in the footage he swapped the camera between him and his mate, and they walked up to several of the girls, who were only delighted to be chatted up and filmed. A couple of girls even walked over to the guys to introduce themselves. The video then cut to a bar, when he and his mate had two very hot blonde girls in their early 20’s at their table. It then cut to about 2 am, and the two girls were cuddled in a hotel room bed, after the guys had shagged them. Apparently the girls wouldn’t allow the guys to film them while having sex.
He visited both cities regularly from 93 to 95, and then went back last month for the first time in over 10 years, and just visited Tallinn. He says he couldn’t believe the difference. The place was overrun with tourists and he couldn’t get any local women to even talk to him. I first visited in 2000, and even then there were still a lot of free sexual possibilities. But when I visited again in 2002, it had noticeably changed for the worse.
I think Latvia and Estonia are now totally dead.
big shame - yes the baltic is dead
Ditto Wan King,
And the Baltic girls were the best specimens, tall, blonde, slim, gorgeous, and educated to fuck like Russians.....was gods gift.
trully spoiled by hoardes of tourists which weren't helped by drunk brits/finns, sleazy italians, and the general westernisation of the east...nothing against the above but most lack being tactful and harvesting the fruits of the north....Russia and Ukraine are probably last chances to explore before we have to play Sex and the City games with every Phycho New York inspired girl to get home base.
am very jealous of those early explorers
rgds
VB
[QUOTE=Wan King]I have an old mate who is a serious sex tourist, now in his 40’s and living in Thailand. Lets call him Jim, and like me his weakness is sex. He also reads all the sex forums but rarely ever writes. He is home on holiday at the moment, and we got around to comparing our various sexploits around the world. This guy used to visit Germany in the late 80’s and did the whole FKK thing before there were many FKK clubs.
We were out for a drink tonite, and he then showed me some interesting video. He reckoned that the best places he ever went for free sex in Europe were Latvia and Estonia. He first visited with work in 1993. He says that back then there were almost no bars or restaurants in either Tallinn or Riga. Both countries were fresh out of communism, and they were really gloomy places. But the women just used to hang around everywhere, and in the city centre they would literally walk up to foreign guys, and try and chat in their broken English. He says some of them were sneaky and only wanted to be brought to a restaurant, and then they would fuck off home, but quite a few would agree to have sex after a meal or some drinks.
He showed me some video footage that he since transferred to his laptop, which he shot in June 1993 of the main square in Tallinn, and you could clearly see groups of girls just standing around. It was around 8pm, and in the footage he swapped the camera between him and his mate, and they walked up to several of the girls, who were only delighted to be chatted up and filmed. A couple of girls even walked over to the guys to introduce themselves. The video then cut to a bar, when he and his mate had two very hot blonde girls in their early 20’s at their table. It then cut to about 2 am, and the two girls were cuddled in a hotel room bed, after the guys had shagged them. Apparently the girls wouldn’t allow the guys to film them while having sex.
He visited both cities regularly from 93 to 95, and then went back last month for the first time in over 10 years, and just visited Tallinn. He says he couldn’t believe the difference. The place was overrun with tourists and he couldn’t get any local women to even talk to him. I first visited in 2000, and even then there were still a lot of free sexual possibilities. But when I visited again in 2002, it had noticeably changed for the worse.
I think Latvia and Estonia are now totally dead.[/QUOTE]