[QUOTE=Dg8787;2416095]It is a felony in my country.[/QUOTE]Is it likely that girl wouldn't know a punter had removed the condom even more so if he came inside. Surely there would be some evidence if she took a shower afterwards.
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2416095]It is a felony in my country.[/QUOTE]Is it likely that girl wouldn't know a punter had removed the condom even more so if he came inside. Surely there would be some evidence if she took a shower afterwards.
One week into the stay and nothing earthshaking to report: That will come when I hop over to the Phils in a couple of weeks and get chased by lava.
In BJ bars, more or less my favorite haunts, I got an ugly but decent service at Kasalong, but Wood Bar was a real bust. Due to their system, instead of taking first in queue, my norm at the other places, I had to sit for the lineup. I chose a girl who looked a lot like the website shots of X. X was well reviewed here a while back so I had some false hope that things would come out well. It was probably not X, as the reviewer mentioned her being petite. I think she must have made a dash to the lineup bench and wedged herself in before I got a good look because she really expanded upon standing up. The ass blotted out the sky as we climbed the stairs. The BJ was among the worst I've had that did not actually result in personal injury: No initial teasing the spheres, so sack lapping, just right to the a very mechanical bobbing. I finally gave up and called it a loss. As the X review was a while back perhaps it was her but she has expanded. Either way, look at the picture on the site and don't take someone who looks like that.
The star of the BJ houses was Duanporn's. I'd had generally good experiences there in its previous life and it did not disappoint. Again, I go with first in queue and by luck I got an above average looker on the first visit and one who was actually quite pleasant to look at on the second. In both cases the service was very good. Yes, two snapshots are a little thin to be making broad assumptions on but one thing stood out: Their attention to the exact items that were so callously ignored at Wood Bar. It was like they had been trained by the same person (probably) and that person stressed the attention to the auxiliary equipment. I really hope so: I'll be checking some more (someone has to do the unpleasant task!) and report either way.
On Cowboy:
Tilac seems to have standardized a bit, too, unfortunately the standard seems to be pleasantly plump. Not thong-obscuring flab plump, just somewhere between nice and something Rubens might use as a model. I got there too late to get a desired seat against the wall and ended up at the table right beside the pool ladder they use to mount and leave the stage. I got a good look at a lot of asses going up or down. Amazing standardization.
For no apparent reason I did Crazy Cats. One girl was actually fairly cute, but most were average at best, but smaller than Tilac's.
The Dollhouse had a pretty poor line up, but it was fairly early. I saw one already BF'd girl on the way out but she was way too dressed to make a good determination. One of my lusts from previous visits was there but she tends to really gulp the drinks down which I, probably foolishly, assume is a bad omen for bed romps: High price and short time would be really short time. Unfortunately one of the waitresses remembered me and whom I was interested in and offered to drag her from the dressing room. I said that I really needed to leave for an unspecified reason.
Shark, as other posters have said, is in a real slide. Not a single doable girl in the two nights I went there, and more ink than at a Merchant Marine convention. But the ink did provide a bit of interest. One girl has a large star, maybe a starfish, one her lower ass area and upper inner thighs, bisected by her thong. Try to visualize that. It is almost tempting to BF her just to see if it is properly centered on its namesake orifice. If so it would work like the omnidirectional approach lights at an airport, guiding your plane. It does look like a fuselage, mine regrettably that of a Piper cub, not an Airbus 380 - towards the touchdown area. So maybe it is advertising A+ service at her starfish. The problem is that it could also be advertising that she IS a starfish.
I saw Crazy House charging a cover so I passed on my every couple of year visit to check if it has improved. They apparently opened a satellite bar nearby, Cozy something. I might have to check it out even if there is a cover: It's important to get to as many of these places as possible in one's lifetime. I've made some serious sacrifices in that quest (shudders thinking about a bar in Oklahoma) so one more wouldn't hurt.
Nana:
Only visited the top floor: Billboard, Enter, and Butterflies. Not much to see at Billboard the first visit, though it was early; the second might have been better but it was later and on Friday so it was so packed they were going to seat me by the stage so I fled.
Enter was unremarkable.
Last Tuesday I saw two real cuties at Butterflies but they were both otherwise occupied so I returned Wednesday: nope. I returned Thursday: nope. I returned Saturday: nope. Usually this happens AFTER I BF someone. I like to assume that they quit knowing that they would never again be with someone as virile, as manly, as charming as me. Deep in my heart, though, I know that they are all now cowering in darkened rooms, wracked by severe PTSD that is for some reason triggered when they happen to see Vienna Sausages when shopping. On Saturday I finally saw a decent substitute there but when I approached her she had this deer-in-the-headlights look and I thought better of it.
In desperation / morbid curiosity I decided to venture to Patpong. I get there every four or five years to remind myself why I don't go there more often. In this case I determined that there was at least one bar that had sprung up that I had not been to so, like Cozy or whatever it is, there was sort of a requirement for me to go. Glamour has apparently been around for years but I guess it has spent a lot of its life closed for some reason or another: I'm sure I've walked Patpong 2 several times in that period and never noticed it. It is just past Bada Bing, across from Foodland. The dancer selection was smallish but frankly they were, on the average, the best of the bars so far this trip. But "the average" is a huge qualifier: By the laws of probability the mega bars like Billboard are more likely to have the one or two stunners, though those laws have not applied so far this trip. The drinks were reasonable, 100 baht for me, 200 baht for a refreshing beverage for any lovely I might want to join me. I bought a couple for a young lass whom I am penciling in for a BF tomorrow, Friday. She quoted the BF as 800 and ST as 3000. I can live with that.
Totally unrelated: When I went to add 500 baht to my Rabbit card at a BTS station they wanted to see ID. They had not asked for it maybe five days earlier when I added the same amount. I wonder what has changed, and if they are tracking everyone or just farangs.
[QUOTE=Oosik;2416196]Totally unrelated: When I went to add 500 baht to my Rabbit card at a BTS station they wanted to see ID. They had not asked for it maybe five days earlier when I added the same amount. I wonder what has changed, and if they are tracking everyone or just farangs.[/QUOTE]Happened to me too on my last trip, using a Rabbit card I have had for a few years now. Luckily they accepted a picture of my passport on my phone. I assume this is a new regulation brought in recently, don't understand why though.
[QUOTE=Margaya;2415726]I am not interested in spending too much time online fooling around so would like to contact P4P girls only. Since demise of backpage, it is difficult to find anything that has a good number of ads with pics. So what is hot now a days. Tinder, Thaifriendly, leolist, Locanto?
On Thai friendly or facebook, is there any way to spot a working girl and then quickly find more. May be her friends LOL? I haven't seen any facebook profile so don't know which girl to start with.
Please share your online hunting tips, Thanks.[/QUOTE]Well, anyone? There is got to be some online resource one can browse thrru and may be book a threesome haha.
I haven't found any facebook profile of Bangkok girls for some reason. Have it of girls from several other countries but not sure why Thai WGs hide it. Or may be I should look elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2416372]Happened to me too on my last trip, using a Rabbit card I have had for a few years now.[/QUOTE]I guess on the first refill I slipped through a crack. My last visit was about nine months ago so maybe the new requirement hit during that span. Just a further step after they started requiring ID to get a SIM or top up for the first time a couple of years ago. Nice that they accepted the phone pic. I'm going to start doing that just in case. I had my passport card on me.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2416106]So that time you paid the girl's fee upfront in the bar, too? Even at a somewhat discounted (for a good looking girl in a go-go bar) 2,500 baht total including the barfine, I would have expected no better than an uninteresting level of service. I don't recall ever getting better than passable service in any Thai P4P option after paying upfront and more often than not it turned out to be far less than passable.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't disagree, but I was being a bit short with my answer. The girl and I negotiated the total fee, then she got her stuff and talked to mamasan, not sure what that conversation was, but mamasan was just like ok ok, and to pay her, so I paid her directly, and the girl and everything was fine with it. I don't think the money with this lady was the issue, she did the things I asked and the usual treatments, she just wasn't a strong performer. It felt more like "Since I'm a hot chick, I just let the guy do whatever he wants until he's done and since I'm hot I don't need to put on a big show" more than you didn't pay so you get crap. She just wanted to do her time, take care of business, and be done with it.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2416080]My god I had no idea, seems like a weird business model. But I guess unsuspecting drunk guys don't know any better their first time there. Can't even remember if I've ever been in Cowboy 2 now.[/QUOTE]I was in there last night and the girl I was talking to said all girls are 3 k bar fine now and 3 k fee for the girl (confusing she said that was short or long time. Depends on the girl I guess and what mood she's in or I'd had too much to drink and misunderstood). The girls have to sell 3 LDs per night and then they get to keep 60 baht per LD (200 baht per drink) after that. If they are late for their rotation on stage they have to leave the stage and it's a 200 baht fine.
The most expensive bar fine I've seen in Nana is at Geisha which is 1200 and the girls even ask for long LD (a tall glass basically) which is 340 I think.
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The most expensive bar fine I've seen in Nana is at Geisha which is 1200 and the girls even ask for long LD (a tall glass basically) which is 340 I think.[/QUOTE]In keeping with my unofficial survey and admittedly unproven theory that Nana Plaza go-go bars with higher than normal barfines tend to have at least a few girls willing to agree upfront to provide a True GFE/Real Sex Experience for the money, my limited experience with Geisha Bar falls into that category as well. And the 2-3 times in the past few weeks they have agreed upfront to such a thing with me, they have also quite readily lowered their initial asking fee from 2,500-3,000 baht for ST to 2,000-2,500 baht. And these were far from the least attractive girls in the place.
As a reminder, I am not talking about some wildly higher than normal barfine like the 3,000 baht barfine Cowboy 2 Bar on Soi Cowboy is charging. But I should also say I have never seriously negotiated with a girl like that in Cowboy 2 Bar, so I have no personal experience to share about it.
I am talking about the difference between 700-800 baht and 1,200 baht or, in some cases, a two tiered system where some girls have lower, normal barfines in the range of 700-800 baht and some have barfines perhaps as high as 1,500 baht.
Of course, YMMV applies here even more than usual considering the highly subjective issue of BBFS.
As an aside, walking past Cowboy 2 Bar on Soi Cowboy a few times this past week, I don't think I saw 2 girls among the crowd of girls standing outside that I would pay a total of 1,500 baht for LT even if they agreed upfront to all the True GFE/Real Sex Experience I could handle from 9pm until 12Noon the next day. So it is now my turn to be shocked to hear ALL of their girls require a 3,000 baht barfine and start out by asking for an equal amount for their personal fee!
Maybe I just happened to pass by at the wrong times.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2416634]In keeping with my unofficial survey and admittedly unproven theory that Nana Plaza go-go bars with higher than normal barfines tend to have at least a few girls willing to agree upfront to provide a True GFE/Real Sex Experience for the money, my limited experience with Geisha Bar falls into that category as well. And the 2-3 times in the past few weeks they have agreed upfront to such a thing with me, they have also quite readily lowered their initial asking fee from 2,500-3,000 baht for ST to 2,000-2,500 baht. And these were far from the least attractive girls in the place.
As a reminder, I am not talking about some wildly higher than normal barfine like the 3,000 baht barfine Cowboy 2 Bar on Soi Cowboy is charging. But I should also say I have never seriously negotiated with a girl like that in Cowboy 2 Bar, so I have no personal experience to share about it.
I am talking about the difference between 700-800 baht and 1,200 baht or, in some cases, a two tiered system where some girls have lower, normal barfines in the range of 700-800 baht and some have barfines perhaps as high as 1,500 baht..[/QUOTE]I have bar fined two girls from Geisha. Yam - 21 and DFK, BBBJ, DATY and FS so don't regret it although I was still a little jet lagged. She is really sweet and nice body overall and no silicon though she wants a nose job. Did strike me as a party girl so not sure how long the body will last as there is a little fat on her stomach. The other girl it was my first night in town so probably should've just had a few drinks as I was severely lacking sleep and maybe give her another go when I'm not exhausted or there are always more girls.
Whilst I had fun in Cowboy 2 I don't see me ever setting foot in there again. I don't think they operate with any real intention of the girls going out and the girls don't seem too bothered. It's all about the LDs and I had one girl arguing with the waitress as she thought she had been short changed one LD token (she hadn't). If you're solo then two girls will approach you both wanting drinks. The waitress /'s wants a drink immediately and I even had the mammasan trying to get in on the action. I wasn't actually looking to bar fine that night so wasn't a big issue but not going back ever at this point.
In terms of nana bar rainbow 3 I've managed my aim of one drink in each bar except the ladyboy bars this week. Sexy night the worst by far. The mammasan did show me a price menu whilst two well past it girls were trying to persuade / assault me but given there appeared to be two or three zeros on the fine / st that was two or three zeros too many. Mandarin 2 and Erotica poor though I did have a nice chat with a girl with large natural breasts in Erotica. She was off to Osaka for 4 days the next day and I wasn't looking to bar fine right then. She had a nice face and rack but was a bit chubby (no. 8 tag. Name escapes me). The staff were throwing what I think was salt on the stage to bring luck / fortune / customers (as Erotica was deserted whilst I was there. Enter is the only bar I've seen real dancers in but none were particularly attractive. Need to compose my thoughts on the rest of the nana bars for a follow up post.
Will visit Rainbow 3 and nana tomorrow as although I'm staying near soi the bars there are generally far pushier I'm terms of trying to get insta LD purchase or just no good. I unfortunately did book via agoda a hotel in Soi Cowboy for my next trip which is tacked onto a business trip in a nearby country but after that I'll always just stay near nana in the future.
Tilac bar fine is 1.5 k BTW so had two girls in there saying better value than cowboy 2 as can get 2 girls vs just 1 but lack of stunners there also. They did actually want to be bar fined and didn't waste time saying it at least.
Was talking to a girl in Geisha who used to work in Cowboy 2 and seems it might be 3 k ST and 6 k LT from cowboy 2 re the girl's starting fee so maybe the girl I was talking to in Cowboy 2 just never did LT or ST really given the pricing. Spankys was packed tonight. Geisha less so.
[QUOTE=Sideshow01;2416962]Was talking to a girl in Geisha who used to work in Cowboy 2 and seems it might be 3 k ST and 6 k LT from cowboy 2 re the girl's starting fee so maybe the girl I was talking to in Cowboy 2 just never did LT or ST really given the pricing. Spankys was packed tonight. Geisha less so.[/QUOTE]I don't think that pricing is preventing her getting work. 3 K ST is not that unusual these days. You forgot to mention the extremely high Barfine prices in Cowboy 2, although now I see you mentioned that in a previous post. Can't say I could remember exactly what they were but I see you guys are saying 3K for BF. That was adding too much to the risk of paying a lot and then getting a dud girl.
Some guys just object to bar taking a large cut in the barfine. I have had girls (from other bars) where I did not pay them, because they refused to fuck once got to the room (e.g. her period). Unfortunately the BF was still blown. I also had hassles with girls wanting to be paid in advance, in the past, which I was not agreeing to. Risk is too high.
In many MPs we still have the risk of paying the full fee in advance.
There has been misconception that Cowboy 2 was an "Arab's" bar, therefore girls not available for sex. However that is not the case. Just too expensive (ridiculous) for the BF. That is enough to prevent BFs happening, generally.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2417102]I don't think that pricing is preventing her getting work. 3 K ST is not that unusual these days. You forgot to mention the extremely high Barfine prices in Cowboy 2, although now I see you mentioned that in a previous post. Can't say I could remember exactly what they were but I see you guys are saying 3K for BF. That was adding too much to the risk of paying a lot and then getting a dud girl.
[/QUOTE]I never step food in Geisha or Cowboy 2 bar, so I am quite surprised by seeing 3 k BF in Bangkok. I have seen that in Pattaya. Now I am intrigued to see the quality of girls in these bars, is it really worth it 6 k for ST, almost 200 usd. I just came back from Germany where I was paying 50-100 euros at FKKs, so paying double of that here is quite absurd for me. But will try for sure soon.
I am planning a trip to Bangkok. Is the health scare related to the Wuhan Corona virus having any consequences for mongering in Bangkok? E. g. Are some places closed or fewer girls available, or fewer mongers?
My hypothesis would be that there would be no fewer girls, but perhaps a bit fewer mongers and thus it might even be a good time to go to Bangkok. On the other hand, if it gets really bad, being stuck in Bangkok with places shutting down, controls at airports and everyone waring a face mask doesn't seem very fun. Especially for a DFK aficionado like me.
I always enjoy to have a short stopover in Bangkok. I lately had one in December and again in January.
In December my stopover was only 18 hour. I was in my hotel 9 pm in the evening. After check in I went to Tulip Massage. My first visit there ever. Wow, that was good. 2 hour PSE. I can recommend that place. 2.500 baht include tip. Worth every baht. After that I was tired and went back to the hotel for a good night sleep.
Next morning I wanted a regular massage before my flight. I went to a massageshop 9 am and got massage of a very fat woman. I didn't worry how she looked, because I only wanted the massage. She was very good for that. Then she asked if I wanted happy ending. That was not my plan, but what the fuck. Then came the surprise. She gave me a excelent hand job and BBBJ. Not very offen I CIM, but I did. She was so skilled. I paid for the massage and giver her 500 baht in tip.
In January I came back for 2 nights, one full day in Bangkok. First night I took a FL from Beergarden, soi 7. ST 3 hour, 1.500 baht. A sweet slim MILF and very GFE.
Next day after lunch I walked past the massage shop from last time and the fat woman said Hello, to me. She could remember me and asked if a wanted a massage again. Why not. But this time I wanted to try something different, so I asked her to come to my hotel. She agreed and could come in 30 minuttes.
Normal I prefer the more slim girls, but I wanted to try something new. I already knew her skils to give BBBJ and HJ, but I wanted to fuck her. It was a very good experience. We spend 5 hour together and I made her come 3 times in big squirting orgasms. After she only wanted money for the massage, 1.200 baht. I gave her 2.000 and she was happy.
Later in the night time I took a very sweet slim FL from soi Nana, only 21 year old. Very sweet and tight pussy, so beautiful skin. You can still find diamonds on the street. Just look. 2 hour, 1.300 bath. After that sleep and to the airport early next morning.
I like variation. Thats why I love to be in Bankok. I don't understand why people complain about the "expensive" prices. If you avoid the most expensive rip-of gogo bars, Bangkok is still cheap. Go for adventure and you will find it.
[QUOTE=Cucumber;2417160]I am planning a trip to Bangkok. Is the health scare related to the Wuhan Corona virus having any consequences for mongering in Bangkok? E. g. Are some places closed or fewer girls available, or fewer mongers?
My hypothesis would be that there would be no fewer girls, but perhaps a bit fewer mongers and thus it might even be a good time to go to Bangkok. On the other hand, if it gets really bad, being stuck in Bangkok with places shutting down, controls at airports and everyone waring a face mask doesn't seem very fun. Especially for a DFK aficionado like me.[/QUOTE]I am in the same boat. Was planning on arriving the beginning of February. I am going to wait a few days and see how it plays out, as I am booking close in with FF miles and have timing flexibility.
My general concerns are: being on planes for 20+ hours each way, potentially less intimate (DFK in your example) encounters offered by the ladies, having heightened concerns about her recent customers history, and being in Southeast Asia for weeks during this evolving situation.
I traveled to Bangkok when there were troops in the streets so I am no shrinking violet, but I am taking a wait and see approach on this one.
SL.