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Jackson, you called my post argumentative, when all I did was object to pictures that were obviously taken from a dating site and passed off as genuine. If you carefully monitor the New Delhi forum others were of the same opinion and I just didn't want this to be carried further in the Thailand forum. There should be some control over the use of fake pictures.
[blue]Then... Why you did not redact your report like this. You can Report the post too, without being argumentative.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2418606].............Even I find very few famous Chinese movie stars to be that specially beautiful. Shu Qi was to my taste. Just a few on this list really appeal to me (even if do have the upside down triangle shaped face):
[URL]http://www.chinawhisper.com/top-20-hot-chinese-actresses/[/URL]
...................[/QUOTE]Every single one of these actresses appeals to me. I especially like Zhang Yuqi. I guess I'm easy to please.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2419405]Every single one of these actresses appeals to me. I especially like Zhang Yuqi. I guess I'm easy to please.[/QUOTE]Haha almost all of them look hot me too. But remember most of these pics are photoshopped usually and taken drom good cameras and lots of lighting. Even I look 5 times better in pictures than jn real LOL.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2419405]Every single one of these actresses appeals to me. I especially like Zhang Yuqi. I guess I'm easy to please.[/QUOTE]I like Nos. 1 to 4, 10 and 19. No.6 looks fab except for bad wonky nose job (easily seen in other pics of her). No. 5 looks strange. Your No. 20 does not really do it for me. We are all different.
The good looking chinese girls for me, I suspect would be well out of my league. The odd good looking uneducated penniless Lao girls, much easier to find for me.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2419525]Haha almost all of them look hot me too. But remember most of these pics are photoshopped usually and taken drom good cameras and lots of lighting. Even I look 5 times better in pictures than jn real LOL.[/QUOTE]Photoshopped or not it is impossible that any one of those babes would be ugly enough for me not to unhesitatingly run miles in the absence of transport to take the opportunity to pay to bang them. I have paid to bang worse. Much worse. Believe me.
Hey Dudes,
First of all big shout out to Natty Bumpo who helped me with a wealthy information regarding the Spas in Bangkok. This is a month old review as I could get time to post this now only.
After getting the feedback decided to try Maira Hotel & Spa. Although expensive there were a few models who were really goodlooking.
However my selection went wrong (I blame myself to select the given lady). The boobs were implants, kitty were loose and there were no proper GFE experience.
She just rushed out. The deed was fo 6 k THB for 2 hours. However the lady finished within 1 hour and came out. Overall disappointing experience. Couldnot even compare to Honey or Honey 2 in pattaya. Below are my score card.
Place: 8/10.
Girls Quality: 8/10.
Girl I chose: 6/10.
Service: 3/10.
WIR: Maybe not. As I prefer Honey of pattaya to Maria Hotel.
Regards.
Cooldoode6.
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WIR: Maybe not. As I prefer Honey of pattaya to Maria Hotel.
Regards.
Cooldoode6.[/QUOTE]Its hard to rate a place based on a single girl. You can get a dud anywhere. I never found that higher priced girls were better overall, in fact very few of them were worth repeating. Some of the very good performers were cheap girls. So it seems the premium is mainly for the looks of the girl. My one try at the Lord was very ordinary girl for performance, yet expensive.
My regular girl at La Belle, went downhill in looks (from nose job) and in service, yet she moved to a higher price category. I never had any other girls worth repeating there. A lot of bad luck, suspect bodies hidden under clothes, and dick scared girls common.
I suspect there is the problem of girls arrogantly over rating themselves, and not being humble and doing their best.
Lower level girls may realise that they are very dependent on repeat customers, and therefore really try hard to please. Stunning girls can get plenty of non repeat bookings, so may not try as hard.
I have had some really good performers that were also stunning, but its not always easy to find them. In Soapies, I always like to watch girls in the fishbowl or line up for long periods, to try to see from facial expressions if they might be a really nice character or obviously too arrogant.
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Quite honestly, the mongering seen in Bangkok isn't like it used to be For tourists. If you are a first-timer, you're going to pay as much as you do in the West if not more depending on where you go. If you are living here, or staying here as a snowbird like I do, then it's still decent.
[/QUOTE]You must have been out of the west for a long time, the prices for anything resembling the quality or ease of even a somewhat bad deal in BKK are a massive bargain and ease compared to most places in the west. Sure, some specific exceptions or good luck spots apply, but go to most places in the west and good fucking luck with anything like the BKK scene. Hell even stuff like partytreffs are getting priced up big for bad service with an angry romanian girl.
1. Angelwitch: There were some really hot girls in there, but also a handful who need to drop this profession immediately and go do something else. Girls tend to be on the more thick side, almost none were what I'd call "skinny". The show / performance thing between the regular gogo gyration / dancing is kinda cool, but I wouldn't call it arousing or sexy. There was one sorta thick but very pretty and massive breasted girl in there who quoted a 900 barfine and 3 k short time. She said no long time which I found flabbergasting. No way I'm going to a gogo bar unless I'm going long time with a super high caliber girl.
2. Spankys: I'm a guy who likes thin or normal weight girls in thongs with big fake boobs. This place basically focuses on that. 3. 7 k short time though, kinda steep. Long time "up to the girl". Long time with one of these girls might be worth it, actually. Still, if I were looking for a drink and a warmup before I grab a freelancer outside of nana, this would be my hangout for sure.
3. Baccara: Very hot girls here, but they have petite look. High % of fake boobs on the second floor. First floor just sucks, don't bother. These girls have a unique "lolita but with breast implants" look I did not see literally anywhere else. It's sooo crowded and noisy in here though which is distracting. If you happen to like chesty girls (two groups that don't often overlap), this is the perfect spot for you. Didn't ask about prices.
4. Crazy house: Appropriately named. Complete chaos, but some absolute knockout 10/10 girls among them. I mean of course not all of them are, but if you're looking for the absolute hottest girl you can find, this is a safe bet. It's ridiculously crowded and noisy in here. A cover charge and a 1 drink minimum is stupid; just make me buy a drink at the entrance please, I don't care if the first one is 100 more so I don't have to yell for the waitress to hear me. Didn't ask prices because my boner died from all the noise and booze.
5. Bee at Cherry Massage: I saw her pictures on the website and noticed she offered A+ service. Looked like an ultra hot 9/10 in photos. The girl in person looks almost nothing like the one in the pictures; they advertise her as like 5'3 and 48 kg, but she is about 5'5 and 60 kg and very dark skinned unlike the photo. Puts on a pound of makeup as well. She does have nice fake boobs though. Mamasan said she's usually fully booked and constantly busy, so I made an appointment. Service was fairly poor right from the beginning. Completely mechanical, told me to hurry up or I wouldn't be able to do a second pop. Massage was surprisingly good, however. I made up an excuse after popping to try to leave early because I'd booked 90 minutes and she seemed palpably miserable, but she was onto me and started apologizing profusely and asking if she did anything wrong. She said she wasn't feeling great and had a headache that day. Maybe I just caught her on a bad day, but sorry hun, the attitude shift needed to come 45 minutes earlier and you get paid the same either way. With better service I probably would have repeated as she was still overall very hot and A+ service for I believe what was only 2. 3 k. I can't recommend against her, give it a try and maybe you'll have better luck.
6. ? At Angel Massage. They wear major pushup bras so what you see isn't what you get once the bras come off. One girl was looking at me like crazy and even though there were a few more attractive ones, I decided to go with her. Excellent service, really good body slide technique, great regular massage, awesome blowjob, and great sex. She says she likes bodybuilders (I am very obviously one) and then showed me a bunch of weird Thai youtube fitness videos. She demanded my line and blew up my phone the next few days asking if she could come over offering freebies / if we could go to the gym together. Unfortunately, she was just not my type physically so I ended up turning her down. Price was 2. 2 k for "60" minutes but it ended up being 90 and I was not charged more.
7. Ja at Bamboo: Excellent service / technique. She is not the prettiest girl, but still looks okay and her body is close to a 10/10 to compensate. Excellent massage / body slide, A+ service for an extra 500, some truly amazing oral technique, pretty damn good English, and overall friendly and interesting to talk to. If a fella were in Thailand the very first time, I'd send him here first. Pics aren't representative, but unlike Bee above, she really is about 5'3 and 44 kg. But it's a fairly fit 44 kg from small bone structure and with good muscle tone; not an anorexic and unhealthy looking 44 kg.
8. Freelancer "Amy" outside nana plaza area soi 4: Big eyes, big natural boobs that will look fake in her pushup bra, medium dark skin, 5'5 maybe 125 lbs, looks slightly Vietnamese but is not. She wears short jean shorts, heels, and a sleeveless shirt. I visited her twice. Only 1 k for short time, 2 k long time. There's a motel nearby she likes to use that costs 300. First visit with her went great, she likes to talk dirty. She won't do BBBJ though. Second time went poorly, but it was my issue. I hurt my ankle the day before and when I started banging her in doggy, my ankle randomly flared up and felt so painful I couldn't finish. It was visibly swollen and I had already been liming around so I don't think she was too offended, yet I could tell she took it personally.
9. ? At Angelina Massage, Line name is "meentra" but I honestly can't recall what she told me to call her: Very thin and long legged girl with enormous DD fake tits and big aerolas. Face is not remotely pretty, but body looks a bit like a medium dark skinned Thai version of porn star Danielle Derek. Long skinny legs, petite and somewhat flat butt. She's a party girl and I'm surprised she doesn't choose to work at a gogo as she's full of energy and will literally sing to herself and dance. 0 massage. I visited her three times, and one of those she chugged a huge pitcher of beer in a 90 minute span. You're in the wrong profession, honey, and hotter than like 80% of the gogo girls in Nana. English is okay and she let me do spontaneous A+ for a bit, but will charge an extra 1 k if you want her to actually prep for it and do it "fully". She's 35 and looks about a decade younger except in the face. She will get mad if you pop more than once but don't tip. More than once and she wants a 200 baht tip, which I think is reasonable considering the base price of only 1. 7 k.
10. ? Vietnamese freelancer with watermelon tits outside nana. Wechat name "Paradise Life" She is very pale skinned, T+A for days, kinda thick but still has a comparatively small waist / stomach and visibly looks very different from the Thai freelancers. Silicon and beyond double deez. If you read this post and see her, you'll know immediately. English is okay but not great. Went to her room which was a bad choice as AC worked poorly so I was sweating like crazy. She is easily the most visually pleasing woman I was with during my Thai adventures, but her vagina is incredibly loose. No BBBJ. Has not done A+ before but seemed open to trying with some prep. I ran into her on her last night in Thailand before she went home to Vietnam. She was just so hot that I even made plans to come back in the morning and see her once more as she had time before she needed to go to the airport. She was pleasantly surprised when I followed up and came for the second visit. Afterword, she asked if I would fly to Vietnam to meet her, as I'd be gone from Thailand by the time she came back. I may have accepted if not for the looseness, glad I didn't though as this was early in my trip and I met so many other really nice babes after her.
11. Vicky at Boss Massage (can't remember the name and her line name is in Thai): This place mostly gets Asian customers. The girl is long limbed with small-to-medium sized fake boobs that you probably can't tell are fake when she's clothed. First visit was normal and she kept exclaiming "OMG! You sexy! You body so good", which of course I interpret as "come back and help me make more money! Her pussy is literally painfully tight. Popped twice. BJ technique above average. Well, I had a good time so I went for a second visit, and that's where things took an interesting turn. My unit was tired and sore; like I said she's tight and I popped twice the day before. After the first pop with her on day two I just wanted to rest and enjoy the massage. She wasn't having it though. Kept reaching for my unit and I was literally batting her away the first few times. But alas, it stood tall. Then, without putting on a rubber, she got on top and put in just the tip. I pulled away. Process repeated again. Finally on the third time it just felt so good I gave in. Got to be the first time a girl pressures a customer into sticking it in for one more pop. And this time raw. I'm 31 and this was the very first time I've had sex without a condom. Popped, immediately freaked out, then remembered I've been on steroids for 4 years straight and almost certainly infertile. Third day, I'll spare you the mushy details, but a romance begins. She comes over on her day off, we do the deed a bunch (I got her a morning after pill just to be safe), she doesn't ask for money, insists on paying when we go out to meals, we do all the sharing of life stories and all that. You guys don't want to read that shit, I'll spare you. She clearly wants a relationship and to move to the country where I live, which she has been to before on a visit. If her English level were better or she could speak some Chinese, I'd probably take her up on it as this is the best sex I've had in my life and my count is probably around 80 (meager I'm sure, for you Thailand vets). She has a unique and unfortunate situation where she no family that needs supporting and is actually being supported somewhat by an older sibling, otherwise I'd never consider it. I can come to Thailand 2-3 x / year, I'll definitely see her again.
12. Hana at Hera's massage. She is VERY pretty, petite, nice enhanced big see small dee, thin, maybe 5'1. 5. She's quite the hustler; she actually only comes here twice a week and has a sales job at a cosmetic surgery hospital. Most what she does is go to various massage shops to work part time and recruit the girls who work there to get cosmetic surgery at her hospital. Her income from referrals apparently well exceeds her earnings from massage place customers. She gives very good service overall and dresses really well. She's had quite a bit of work done and is veering on too much; some guys might be off put by the artificial looking face. She has mostly Asian customers, speaks a bit of Chinese / Japanese and has near fluent English. She intentionally adopts a very cute and "kawaii" personality which was perhaps a bit over the top. Clearly a very high IQ girl, which is understandably rare in this profession. But alas, although my two meetings with her in Hera's massage went well, she flaked when I set up a hotel meeting. She was the one who suggested we meet at my hotel instead of the massage place so I could pay less and she could earn more with no house fee. Set an appointment for 8, sent a message at 745 asking if she was on the way, no response until 8:45 saying "sorry I was asleep, I'll come now". Then no response until the next morning "fell asleep again". I'll still honestly probably repeat at least once. 2 k or 2.2 k at hera's forgot.
Thailand impressions from a younger guy:
It seems like all the youtube videos on do's and don'ts advice on Thailand girls are directed at the physically unattractive middle aged portly English gentleman or his Desi equivalent. I saw the bar girl ten commandments and a bunch of other youtube videos from a guy called Simon on the land of smiles youtube channel and got the impression that these ladies should detest a young visibly strong strong well endowed fella on a western middle class income and lives in a different third world Asian country; they go too hard on that p making it more difficult to work, they don't buy gifts, they generally take more effort and work, they take longer to pop, they want more pops. All these videos seem to paint a picture that the 45+ year old fat "gentle hearted" wealthy guy they can beguile into bringing them to the UK was the Thai girl's favorite customer. Maybe this is true; one can't ask and expect a truthful answer. Furthermore, these videos are talking about BAR girls; the type of girl who goes to work in a soapy / oily is going to be quite different from the type who works at a gogo bar / beer bar and it's not unreasonable to assume they have different preferences. But the fact is, they are still women with needs and their clientele are fairly unattractive overall, particularly at the more western catering massage places. And I should emphasize I say that in reference to massage places; I did notice quite a lot of handsome younger guys in the gogo bars but not in the beer bars. There's a lot of good looking and younger men at the Asian catering places, though. When a handsome younger guy walks in, a non-trivial portion of these girls are actually pretty excited about it to the extent they want to meet you outside of work just for recreation and not for work without a house fee. Two, in my case, with others offering to meet at the hotel for a discounted rate. Another was somewhat mercenary and suggested that if I pay for hotel+food and take her to hua hin on a holiday, her services would be free.
I'm a guy who can't avoid thinking about maximizing value. In my perspective, strictly in terms of a "per baht" efficiency, it goes like this: 1. Freelancer 2. Oily Massage, 3. Soapy Massage (quite variable, some are even cheaper than Oily massage), 4. Gogo. I don't have enough experience with beer bars to place them, but I'm guessing it's maybe just slightly less cost efficient than freelancers. The prices at these gogos when you consider drink minimums is crazy. I can see it being very worthwhile, however, if you've got a really nice hotel and are going for long time. You could have a lot of awesome experiences for a relatively low price per pop going this way. Problem to me is, in a gogo environment it's going to be so hard to figure out which girls you have the right chemistry for that to happen with. I can "feel out" a massage girl in that 1-on-1 private environment, "test drive", and figure out if that chemistry is there that would justify dropping barfine+longtime, but with a gogo bar this kind of screening is impossible. What if you get longtime with a girl who just isn't that into it? Maybe the Thailand vets have a system down for this. Maybe if you say you want long time they sort of automatically provide good service because they're relieved to be excused from the gogo for many hours. The girls in there honestly seem soulless, bored, impatient, and restless. It was an understandable contrast from the soapy and oily girls; the gogo ones have to move around, have a hard time chatting with friends / coworkers, can't use phones, got to be in a noisy and boozey crowded environment. The massage girls have a nice quiet relaxing environment, can sit outside if it's an oily, seem to have a lot of camaraderie with their coworkers, and generally gave off the impression that they were not at all unhappy with the job, whereas I got that vibe from gogo girls. The only ones that seemed not miserable were at Baccarra.
Beer bars seem promising; there's something nice about seeing girls in more "normal" but still sexy clothes rather than gogo uniforms which can range from awesome to atrocious. A lot of the beer bars were more relaxed and not too noisy like gogos and generally felt more pleasant to be in. It felt like every time I went, there were 0-2 women who were my type, 5 who were okay, and 20 who should be paying me not the other way around. I'd walk in and immediately be swarmed by these 20 ladies aged 35+ while the ones I was interested in were busy with other customers. IDK, maybe my standards have just been set too high by living in China so long. I don't know much about beer bars and only visited the handful outside Nana; I will investigate this further on my next visit if I can avoid spending all of my time with the one from Boss Massage. Although I'm sure ISG readers are well aware, it seems a lot of western tourists are totally unaware that the massage scene exists and is so robust. I saw very few in these massage shops. The vast majority in Nancy and Angelina were Thai local men; most of the time I was the only foreigner all day in those places!
I don't get the Tulip hype. I went in 3 times asking for Golf and she was never present. Most of the women were very ugly and into their 40's, although some had some nice fake boobs and dammit a man loves A+ with a small waist fake boobed Asian woman. Some of the women were literally obese! Is golf really much more attractive than most of the ladies in here?
Overall Thailand is a god damn paradise. I could never live here or I would get even less done with my life in terms of advancing career, making money, savings etc and would just spend all time / money on mongering. My next trip will be in June or August, I've yet to choose. I could choose not to work over the summer and spend a full 7 weeks there, but I don't think I could handle the temptation.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2418606]Yes while typical Chinese round faces don't suit me, nor do the overly straight bodies with flat asses. I guess the good looking Chinese girls are less than 1%. I do find Indonesian girls to have good bodies. I used to do a 9 out of 10 Java girl in my home country. She got deported back to Indonesia when her relationship with boyfriend went bad. I was sad. She was so hot with great face and body. Unfortunately I don't even have a pic of her.
Fortunately the Chinese population is huge, so plenty of Chinese beauties do exist. I think it varies by location. A 4 day visit to a friend in Guangzhou, I hardly saw a Chinese girl that impressed me for the whole visit. Even I met "Miss China" winner of a beauty competition at the golf club, she was very tall, very straight body, looked just like a lady boy to me, face nothing special for me.
Even I find very few famous Chinese movie stars to be that specially beautiful. Shu Qi was to my taste. Just a few on this list really appeal to me (even if do have the upside down triangle shaped face):
[URL]http://www.chinawhisper.com/top-20-hot-chinese-actresses/[/URL]
Its just personal taste. Others much prefer Chinese over Thai, especially if big tits and white skin. In fact Thai men prefer Chinese girls with big tits and white skin over real Thai look girls, generally. I see how Thai men choose at Soapy MPs.
I would not consider living in Hong Kong or Guangzhou. I hated the culture and the girls did not appeal. I assume Shianghai is much better.
To be fair, out in the Issan village where my GF comes from, I find her to be the only hot adult female in town (some children are good looking and have not yet left for the big city). I know some other reasonably sexy girls from same province, but different villages. So a fairly low portion of the Issan girls are really hot for me too. Maybe its not much different to chinese proportions. I am very happy my small GF still has a great curvy body at 40 years old. Still a hot ass. However it causes me to be too fussy when mongering I think.[/QUOTE]Interesting perspective, thank you for sharing this. I have lived in China 4. 5 years and after a cumulative 25 days in Thailand across two visits; I think my preferences are shifting. I'd say I still prefer the far right tail of the Chinese girl distribution, but in terms of the more average girls, Thai girls kick their asses for several reasons. They are actually not that much whiter than Thais, on average, ime. You might get that impression from pictures because they are notorious for filtering / photoshopping their pictures until they barely resemble their real life images. There's a lot more national / ethnic pride, and whether its WGs or civilians, that right tail is largely inaccessible for non Chinese in China, whereas the right tail seems very accessible for foreigners with Thai women. I've been flatly refused service countless times from girls who make less than 1 k usd / month in China; I can't imagine this ever happening in Thailand.
I'd put it this way with regard to average girls: Chinese girls are very beautiful but not very sexy. Thai girls are extremely sexy, but not very beautiful. I'm talking about averages, not the exceptions. I feel like even among civilians and not WGs, I can find tons of Thai girls I'd love to just bang the bejesus out of, but they wouldn't exactly look great in a photograph. I can find tons of Chinese girls who look gorgeous and like they should be painted or in a photoshoot for a magazine, but weirdly are only slightly boner inducing. Chinese girls also dress abysmally; they have some of the worst fashion ever and seem to be in collective denial about what men find attractive, causing them to often conceal their more salacious and stimulating features. All the Chinese women I work with look far better in their formal work uniforms (medium length skirt+women's dress blouse+medium heels) than when they are allowed to dress themselves; I feel like this would never happen in any other country. I got to give credit to American women; they may be super fat and unattractive on average, but at least the attractive minority know how to dress and present themselves probably better than anyone else in the world. Thais do well on this as well, however.
Chinese WGs generally have awful attitudes and you'd be shocked at how poorly they treat customers; plenty of shit they do and say to customers on a routine basis would be grounds for being fired instantly if they worked in Thailand. There's been a huge crackdown since 2017 so finding full services as a foreigner requires pre-existing connections from before the crackdown unless you can read fluently.
I found large breasted Thais easier to find than large boobed Chinese. Again it's partly the collective delusion Chinese women have about what men find attractive and a desire not to look "trashy" for facing scorn from female friends / colleagues, breast surgery is extremely rare even among financially successful WGs (I've met 4 out of maybe 60 ish) and the ones with big naturals seem to go out of their way to hide them to avoid the judgement of women or to attract "the wrong kind of man".
Never had a proper Thai GF, but Chinese GF as a foreigner (or even as a Chinese) can be absolutely nightmarish. They become incredibly demanding after you're about 9 months in, but alas this is the Bangkok thread so I won't write out another novel about that.
Lastly, as you say, it's a huge country so there's a big amount of regional variation. Locals seem to exalt the Sichuan women; but I've found northern Chinese women the most attractive, despite their more masculine behaviour.
[QUOTE=CoconutWater89;2420215]Thailand impressions from a younger guy:
It seems like all the youtube videos on do's and don'ts advice on Thailand girls are directed at the physically unattractive middle aged portly English gentleman or his Desi equivalent. I saw the bar girl ten commandments and a bunch of other youtube videos from a guy called Simon on the land of smiles youtube channel and got the impression that these ladies should detest a young visibly strong strong well endowed fella on a western middle class income and lives in a different third world Asian country; they go too hard on that p making it more difficult to work, they don't buy gifts, they generally take more effort and work, they take longer to pop, they want more pops. All these videos seem to paint a picture that the 45+ year old fat "gentle hearted" wealthy guy they can beguile into bringing them to the UK was the Thai girl's favorite customer. Maybe this is true; one can't ask and expect a truthful answer. Furthermore, these videos are talking about BAR girls; the type of girl who goes to work in a soapy / oily is going to be quite different from the type who works at a gogo bar / beer bar and it's not unreasonable to assume they have different preferences..[/QUOTE]I'm just going to say that your point about gogo girls being happy to getting taken out for LT is probably not true most of the time.
These gogo girls (even the freelancers / Thermae bar girls) are actually looking for ST especially early in the night. They want to go as many rounds of ST as possible and hence would quote you a much higher price for LT these days.
You might have more luck if its later in the night or if you are a "handsome young man".
[QUOTE=Giggsy838;2420387]I'm just going to say that your point about gogo girls being happy to getting taken out for LT is probably not true most of the time.
These gogo girls (even the freelancers / Thermae bar girls) are actually looking for ST especially early in the night. They want to go as many rounds of ST as possible and hence would quote you a much higher price for LT these days.
You might have more luck if its later in the night or if you are a "handsome young man".[/QUOTE]I am going to agree. Most of the go go bar girls I have liked have a preference for ST, and many are extremely reluctant to do LT, some saying they don't do LT at all (which may not be totally true). Money can buy anything but a very expensive LT is not going to be worthwhile.
One girl knocked me back late at night even for ST, saying why didn't I take her earlier while she still had the energy to a longer ST.
Some girls need their sleep, at least from 4 am onwards, and know they won't get a good night's sleep doing a LT. Others have to get home to the parents, the BF, the child or the baby.
Some bargirls will refuse LT but agree to return to your room in the morning for another ST round. The problem is not a very good percentage will actually show up. Depends how much they need the money.
I have done rather few LTs in the last few years, yet way back when I was 35 YO, it was all long time bookings with bargirls or Thermae girls, and was ridiculously cheap for all night. So you could really get your monies worth with multiple fucks. Girls were so cheap that one would be stupid to sleep alone. I did not do many massage girls in those days as they were more expensive. Ha ha. However used to take a Thermae Soapy MP girl all night, and even for multiple day holidays, separate from her employ. Some tit jobs in those days but not many nose jobs, and all my girls were all natural. 20 years later, I think she would have been happy to marry me, but she had gone downhill too much. Not slim enough any more and a little crazy.
[QUOTE=CoconutWater89;2420225] I'd say I still prefer the far right tail of the Chinese girl distribution, but in terms of the more average girls, Thai girls kick their asses for several reasons. They are actually not that much whiter than Thais, on average, imo.
I'd put it this way with regard to average girls: Chinese girls are very beautiful but not very sexy. Thai girls are extremely sexy, but not very beautiful. I'm talking about averages, not the exceptions.
I found large breasted Thais easier to find than large boobed Chinese.
Never had a proper Thai GF, but Chinese GF as a foreigner (or even as a Chinese) can be absolutely nightmarish. They become incredibly demanding after you're about 9 months in, but alas this is the Bangkok thread so I won't write out another novel about that.
Lastly, as you say, it's a huge country so there's a big amount of regional variation. Locals seem to exalt the Sichuan women; but I've found northern Chinese women the most attractive, despite their more masculine behaviour.[/QUOTE]I agree that the Chinese beauties are on the far end of the bell curve distribution. I am surprised that you find average Chines girls to be beautiful.
There are plenty of Thai girls that are of Chinese ancestry in Bangkok. I have rarely picked them in Soapies (if obviously Chinese), because they tend to be more voluptuous (overweight), or if skinny, very straight bodied non curvy, and not many of the obvious Chinese faces are pretty to me. Yet Thai men seem to go for them more than the normal Thai looks. I never could tell if Chinese girls had bigger tits really or just stuffed / padded bras.
Thailand may have less regional variation in looks than China, but not sure. Some southern Thais don't look Thai at all. I hardly count them all as Thais. Other Southern Thailand girls can look quite similar to Issan girls. Just depends if they have any Malay ancestry or not. Northern Thai beauties is a bit of a myth to me. Some nice ones. Many can have broad faces.
Since I like slim girls, I don't find that many have big tits, but manage a natural Cee-Cup sometimes without going to fat girls. I like exotic girls and black girls too (although too few black girls are very pretty especially in Bangkok). Miss Chile and Miss S Africa attached, and a pic of 3 pretty Japanese girls (I like them all), Indonesian and a Kenyan (quite similar look to my favourite Lao girl but darker). So I can do a wide variety of nationalities but just the average China girl standard is a bit low. I suppose we could say the same for Viets, Thai, Philipinas, Indonesian, Indian, etc. I suppose one can see from the attached pics that my style tends to be far from a typical Chinese look, liking the more exotic and don't need white skin.
Are Japanese girls better than Chinese on average? Which country in Asia has the best looking girls on average? Hard to say, and very dependent on personal taste, especially as I like slim faces. Java, Thai, and Philipina might be my preference based on past experiences with Indian girls last.
Strangely Thailand wins all the beauty competitions for Ladyboys, but not so much for the real girls. Meanwhile the girls like to have surgeries to try to look like LBs, ha ha.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2420193]You must have been out of the west for a long time, the prices for anything resembling the quality or ease of even a somewhat bad deal in BKK are a massive bargain and ease compared to most places in the west. Sure, some specific exceptions or good luck spots apply, but go to most places in the west and good fucking luck with anything like the BKK scene. Hell even stuff like partytreffs are getting priced up big for bad service with an angry romanian girl.[/QUOTE]No dude I travel a lot. The Poor schnooks that go to Go-Go bars and drop $300 would be better off in an FKK. Just remember that if they say they're Italian, they're really Romanian.
But hey, even though I'm relaxing here in Cambodia, I'll help you guys out when you're done with all the philosophy. There's a new BJ bar I am told on soy 33 named Tokyo. Somebody needs to go take one for the team so I know if it's worth while for me to stop in when I roll into Bangkok next.