English Speaking Chicas Don't Exist
[QUOTE=Truesp;2594025]Does anyone know how to find chicas that speak good English? I know many of the guys on here probably don't care but for me its a huge selling point and I haven't been able to find any in El centro or Parque Lleras that can hold a conversation in English.[/QUOTE]There are very few Chicas in Medellin that speak English, and highly unlikely you will find one in El Centro, I've only encountered a few in the past four years, but they weren't even close to fluent.
You might encounter one in Parque Lleras but highly unlikely.
What your facing, Chicas that speak English, well that's one of the major challenges of mongering in Colombia versus other Countries.
And for the guys with Spanish speaking skills, well they can do very well here.
Maybe another board member has some intel on this, but I highly doubt it.
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20 mil COP is 20 thousand
[QUOTE=ViceVox;2593959]20 Million COP to USD is showing 5 K USD. Did you mean 200 K COP? Sorry new to Colombia.[/QUOTE]Mil means thousands. All the notes have printed in large numbers on them either a 1, 2, 5, 10,20,50,100 (I haven't seen larger than a 100). You made me look at one of my 50's and it actually says right next to the 50 "mil pesos" meaning 50,000 COP. COP is the official three letter ISO 4217 international code which stands for Colombian peso, and has nothing to do with the Mexican peso. The United States dollar is USD. Million is written "millon".
Roughly, you can think of 100 mil COP like an USD 20, plus a skosh more, or about $25.76 USD. The exchange rate is high now.
Therefore, 50 mil COP = $12.97 USD.
In my example, 20 mil COP means 80% of my taxi rides are less than 5 bucks USD.
Using the dollar sign $ in front and USD after the number is not redundant as there are other countries that also use the $ sign for their currency, including Colombia, Argentina, Bahamas, Fiji, Singapore and more.
I hope that helps and that this post is error free. Yeah, that would be really bad if my erratum correction was also in error, but entirely possible as I routinely go two nights without sleep and I didn't sleep a wink last night, jeje.
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Victory, Negotiations Colombian Style
I stated once before that I thought some businesses took advantage of Colombians on pricing by not doing much negotiating on larger purchases.
I want to step back from that statement. They are not negotiating from a point of strength to take advantage of anyone. Based on my experience today on buying a moto, the simply do not know how to negotiate.
There were several steps along the way where they added value to my side of the deal when I didn't ask for it. I would have sweetened my offer or compromised my terms, but I never had to. They caved or more frequently, gave up bargaining chips when I did not even ask. Unheard of in the USA. The sales lady one time said to mi novia, "he's a good negotiator. " Perhaps, but yeah, against them anyone would look good. I am not saying I robbed them. I didn't test their limits. The definition of a good deal is when both parties are happy, and we were.
Yamaha was already testing our limits with a 3-4 month waiting list to take delivery on a new moto. Then, when we went to put the down payment, Yamaha added to the complication by saying they could not put the "papels" or papers (title, insurance) in Catgirl's name if we used my debit card. So we walked. Across the street. To the Victory dealership. Victory is to Autotech what Acura is to Honda. Now of course, I would expect the sales lady to say this, which she did, "The only thing you can buy at Yamaha that you can't get here, is their name. " She said she would stack her motos up against any Yamaha. Fit and finish were excellent. I had heard good things about Victory.
We picked our color on their top-of-the-line model. Blanco. Love it. She quotes me 13 millon COP. She throws in GPS, and Bluetooth without my saying a word which makes the moto equivalent to the Yamaha, for about a million less. Not the same, better. The Yamaha engine was 155 CC, the Victory is 170 CC. Nice. Intelligent Key. Then she says, "I'm going to give you a free safety bar. " Front and back. Bars, plural. Great, I wanted those. If your moto tips over it keeps all the painted surfaces from scraping. I was prepared to pay extra for them if I had to. I am starting to get my "We are not in Kansas anymore, Toto" feeling that I experience a lot in Medellin. WTF am I talking about? That feeling is practically constant for me, here.
I am ready to make my first offer. "I will buy the bike today if you throw in two free helmets. " No reaction, the salesgirl gives me her stone face. Pretty cute. Not afraid to show her great smile. She walks away and sits down at her desk without saying a word and calls someone on her cell phone. We follow, mi novia and her brother Milo. Then she starts doing computer shit, still no words, and I said "We have a deal?" and she says Siiii. Okay cool. Now mind you, the price ranges on the helmets are starting at mid 100's mil COP for a little half-helmet shell up to mid 400's mil COP for full face helmet with visor. So I say, "Any 2 helmets of my choice?" And she says yes. Okay, that was easy.
I picked two matching helmets I liked that were listed at 310 mil COP each. They were great but when we tried them on, the chin strap was manual, the old fashioned kind where you have to thread the strap between two rings. Now they have ratcheted quick release chin straps, and for some strange reason, none of their helmets have this feature. I tell them I have to have the modern chin straps. Since we don't get the helmets, I ask her to knock off one million pesos on the price of the bike instead. She quickly agrees. Their wholesale on those two helmets had to be under half a million and she just knocked off another million pesos on the price. Whut whut? Okay. I've got a good poker face. Let's continue.
So now we're at 12 millon COP. A different sales girl grabs Catgirl's arm and takes her over to the clothing rack. She puts a really nice moto jacket with the hard shield inserts on her, and asks her if she likes it. I am digging the jacket but thinking what's the angle? So I ask her how much for the jacket, and she says, "Gratis. " Free. Okay. Not a cheap jacket, I didn't look at the price but it was there top-of-the-line.
I already mentioned a couple of times to our salesgirl that I am not going one peso over our agreed price, in case they try to do some last minute add-ONS. She would reassure me each time. We are all sitting at her desk and the other salesgirl who gave us the jacket walks up with a number on a piece of paper. "Que es esto?" or what is this? She says, "Your price" and she warns me that it's different. Less. Not by much, but less. Final price out the door 11.978. 000 COP. Happy, Happy, we take delivery in eight days. Would've been three days but white is their most popular color. Only in Medellin. Ostee Out.