Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Gargano19;2453051]That's actually interesting and possible. But why would a gogo girl will tell other girls or mamsan that I paid her half because she changed the deal in room. [/QUOTE]Obviously she will leave out the second part of the story. The version of what happened will be the girl's version that she did everything and you paid half. You'll never get to say your version.

About 2 years ago, there was a girl at Palace who called me cheap because I wouldn't buy her a drink. She didn't know I spoke Thai so I started swearing at her in Thai and told her she was ugly. Then the girl went around telling girls bad things about me. My regular girls come over to tell me what she's doing. We have a good laugh. Then the girl comes to me when she sees I am spending 1000's in drinks. My girls tell her no chance for her forever and the girl got even angrier. Turns out even my girls don't like her.

My biggest laugh though was the night she figured out I hung out with Monkeypaw. The shock on her face was priceless.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453054]Obviously she will leave out the second part of the story. The version of what happened will be the girl's version that she did everything and you paid half. You'll never get to say your version.

[/QUOTE]Haha that makes sense and yes I can see that happening. Tho I doubt it if I ever really care about it if few girls (or all girls of some bar) try to ignore me, hypothetically, Bangkok or Pattaya are full of clubs, gogos and discos. And I rarely get tempted to fuck one specific girl, and it's almost impossible to not find a doable girl on any given night. Unless I am on a shoestring budget or have extreme fetishes.

But it's all hypothetical so far for me, discos and gogos have been pretty great for me. Maybe because it's a regular place for girl, and they don't want to do a bad job intentionally and create a bad image of herself, after all monger do discuss the girls they have met in clubs. In case of dating sites like Thaifriendly or thermae, she has much less on stake. What I am going to do after a bad service from TF girl, review her on her TF profile LOL?

Extending the hit-and-miss service point from thermae girls, because I am just done fucking a girl and she just left. It's the first time we met and after some massage, she asked for BJ. I said yes. She asked "with condom? I said "what! And next thing, her toungue was licking my bare dick. And she sucked it for good 5 minutes, and tried some DT. Session was normal, so no report about it. But after we were done, I asked her why did she ask to suck with condom. She said, she like it that way. I wondered if anyone agrees to it, and guess what, she said most of Asians are okay with CBJ. Not surprised but that's why girls from Thermae will most probably try to give CBJ, because they're used to get away it with their most clients. Even when I go to thermae, it's not easy to find girl who will go with me and then who is ready for BBBJ.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453054]

About 2 years ago, there was a girl at Palace who called me cheap because I wouldn't buy her a drink. She didn't know I spoke Thai so I started swearing at her in Thai and told her she was ugly. Then the girl went around telling girls bad things about me. My regular girls come over to tell me what she's doing. We have a good laugh. Then the girl comes to me when she sees I am spending 1000's in drinks. My girls tell her no chance for her forever and the girl got even angrier. Turns out even my girls don't like her.

My biggest laugh though was the night she figured out I hung out with Monkeypaw. The shock on her face was priceless.[/QUOTE]Being called cheapo among other things does not bother me in the least. I have been called worse LOL. For a casual monger who does not live there and not a regular at a bar does not bother me what they perceive me as. I am not standing for election as the most popular person LOL. It is strictly business. I am the one with the money to spend and I will decide whom to spend on. My spending attitude only changes if the chosen girl gives me good service. Then I do not mind giving more money, gifts, taking for dinner etc. Talk is cheap. A bargirl can promise whatever you want to hear in the bar but the proof comes later.

Unfortunately lots of people want to impress girls in the bar showing off. They forget they are there to have a good time and not loose their shirt buying everybody drinks. They forget bars are trying to squeeze your money as much as possible. Being termed big spender is false prestige.

I remember here in USA taking girls on dates to cheap restaurants. Nonetheless irrespective of what they think behind my back did not affect the relationship. Not all girls expect to be wined and dined.

For a common prostitute what is the point in impressing your generosity?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2452967]Why would they go to Thermae for any reason other than to lure a guy?[/QUOTE]What I was trying to say is most girls who stand in Thermae look like robots except for those moments when they think a guy is looking at them or they see a customer THEY want. Then you will see a momentary smile.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2453039]I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.

With one of the girls, I specifically asked her if she had menstruation. Of course, she did not understand. So we had to use the translator again. Her answer was no. Did she actually understand the question? And was the translation correct? I do not know. Half an hour later, we are having sex in the hotel. After a few thrusts, I can tell something is not right. It feels like my dick is drowning in a pool of grease. There is way too much lubrication. It can only mean one thing, blood. I know because it has happened once before elsewhere.

I stop and pull out and the condom is covered in blood like a knife after a stabbing. And there is blood on the bedsheets as well. I ask the girl again if she has menstruation. She insists no. Was she lying? I do not know. It didn't look like she was lying. If it was vaginal tear, then it must have been from a wild sex session the night before because it sure was not from me. Instead of being at work, she should have been resting at home to heal the wounds and not bring that bloodbath crap to my hotel room.

I don't get why I have to fight for something I'm paying for. These girls over-promise and under-deliver. And they don't care as long as it doesn't hurt them. And it's no use trying to talk sense into them. The concept of customer service does not seem to exist in their realm of mind. And they also want you to buy them food, which I did. And this is how they repay the kindness. I'm referring to the Thai hookers. The regular Thai folks, in my opinion, are genuinely good people. It's the Thai hookers that are the problem.[/QUOTE]You cannot expect to have a 100% satisfaction rate when you deal with hookers, especially when you cannot communicate with them. They have their expectations also and the customers can also be very different from one to another, it's not easy to please every kind of men. Even I can communicate with them I still brought back so many sh1 tty girls back to my place in the past, but between these girls I could found some that were good. A first step for you would probably be to skip the girls with little English and focus on the ones that can speak correctly in English as you seem to be asking them a few things before bringing them back with you.

Normally when Thai WG still work while having their menstruation, they would put a kind of sponge in the back of their pussy to retain the blood, one can still occasionally find some blood drops on the sheets or on the tip of the condom but what happened to that girl was odd. She probably wasn't aware of it herself.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2453039]Well, I first went to Soi 4 to grab a freelancer. I talked to 3 or 4 of them. But none spoke English. The all pulled out their cellphones to use the translator. I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers. Then they started questioning me. It was taking forever with the translator. So I said screw it. Then I remembered people talking about Thermae. So I went there to have a look. It wasn't really my intention to grab a girl there. But it was much easier although the girl spoke very little English. And look how that turned out.

She was the only girl in Bangkok. I avoided Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether. After Bangkok, I went to Pattaya for a week. I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.
...[/QUOTE]Why did you avoid Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether? Of all the places you mentioned (Soi 4 and Thermae in Bangkok, anywhere in Pattaya), Nana Plaza probably would have had the most easily agreeable, customer-oriented, English fluent, slim, young Thai girls who understand why they suit up in a bikini or less and clock in on the job every day. Those other places are going to be much more hit and miss, sprinkled with P4P-curious hobbyists, waste-of-time hustlers and, particularly in the case of Pattaya, girls used to dealing with many customers who rush to the 7-11 to scarf up those horrid pre-packaged sandwiches just before their expiration date in order to save 17.50 baht. So they are naturally used to providing less than mediocre service, probably not worth it at any price.

Of course, that was pre Covid-19. Post Covid-19, who knows what kind of options will be available in those places, if any.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2453039]I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers... I don't see why it should be so difficult.[/QUOTE]

You're making it difficult. Asking too many questions to hookers won't get you far. All you need to know is the price, and maybe if they do specific unusual acts you want (like anal, or finishing 2 times). Even asking about services is of limited value, most things they can promise but deliver minimally or with poor attitude (e. G. A 5-second BBBJ). In the end, they'll give you whatever service they normally provide. For best results, go with the flow with a pleasant but firm attitude, but it's always variable, some girls are duds no matter what you do. Trying too hard to make sure everything lines up correctly is the best way to spoil it.

As for menstruation, no way to avoid. They usually know they have it, and know no customer would like that (apart from maybe 1% with a crazy fetish), but still chose to work. Usually they take precautions like shoving a sponge out there or hoping it won't get too messy, this sometimes works, sometimes fails. Given that they're out working anyway, why would they choose to give up the session just because you remembered to ask the magic question of whether they have menstruation?

Excluding Thai bars which you did not attend, every single girl except maybe a handful I met in Thailand speaks English. Pretty low odds given I've likely spoken to 1000s and 1000s of girls. How in the world did you manage to get 3 Thai girls who needed to use Google translate? Do you have an accent and it's the girls who don't understand you? I've seen that happen before. I've only had to ever use Google translate with one single girl in Thailand and that's because she just turned of age and it was her first ever night working. Even now 5 years later working in various Walking Street gogo bars her English is awful so it's just her inability to learn English.

ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.

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ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.[/QUOTE]BananaBoi, you're probably right since that is the usual objection to taking go-go girls or the reason someone chooses to go the FL route instead. But I often read here that go-go girls are less service-oriented, less giving, are more difficult to get GFE with (True GFE or not) and so on. Maybe that was part of his reasoning as well.

For example, it has been posted that go-go girls are the least likely to agree to bb or give a BBBJ+CIM compared to other options. They are certainly presumed to give the least accomplished ones. And I think the idea is they are less likely to be agreeable to those things or do a good job of it because they are typically younger, in better shape, don't need to give so much for the money, in a hurry to get back to the bar and so on. But, I have to say none of that has been my experience with go-go girls vs FLs on the street, in Thermae, massage shop girls, whatever.

My experience with go-go girls, more generally from Nana Plaza than Soi Cowboy, has been they are among the best sex providers of all the options. And, frankly, the younger, fitter and cuter they are, the better they have been for me. I am not talking about the very top tier looking girls in a go-go bar (or in any venue, for that matter). I am talking about among the top, say, 25% in the room, preferably the second tier best lookers. If anything, the older and slightly less fit the go-go girl is who approaches me, the bigger bet I would make this one wouldn't agree to anything I need tonight. By contrast, the younger, fitter and cuter they are almost always means they are up for it.

And if that means I pay an additional 1,500 baht for a barfine and a drink or two to get that squared away and agreed upon before we even walk out of the bar, I'm fine with that. I can't tell you how many times I've wasted much more than 1,500 baht on the kind of stuff BamBoomBam had thrown in his lap trying to avoid the barfine and drinks route,if that was his reason. And more than that with those silly Thermae girls.

But it would be interesting to hear what BamBoomBam's reasons were for avoiding the go-go bars in the areas he visited.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2453216]You cannot expect to have a 100% satisfaction rate when you deal with hookers, especially when you cannot communicate with them. They have their expectations also and the customers can also be very different from one to another, it's not easy to please every kind of men. Even I can communicate with them I still brought back so many sh1 tty girls back to my place in the past, but between these girls I could found some that were good. A first step for you would probably be to skip the girls with little English and focus on the ones that can speak correctly in English as you seem to be asking them a few things before bringing them back with you.

Normally when Thai WG still work while having their menstruation, they would put a kind of sponge in the back of their pussy to retain the blood, one can still occasionally find some blood drops on the sheets or on the tip of the condom but what happened to that girl was odd. She probably wasn't aware of it herself.[/QUOTE]I understand they have their expectations as well. But some of these girls are very demanding, acting like they are the paying customer. And that I find very wrong.

Also, you make a very good point about communication. I probably should avoid girls that do not speak English next time, although I do not believe there ever will be a next time. At least not as we know it.

Nevertheless, I appreciate your input.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2453254]You're making it difficult. Asking too many questions to hookers won't get you far. All you need to know is the price, and maybe if they do specific unusual acts you want (like anal, or finishing 2 times). Even asking about services is of limited value, most things they can promise but deliver minimally or with poor attitude (e. G. A 5-second BBBJ). In the end, they'll give you whatever service they normally provide. For best results, go with the flow with a pleasant but firm attitude, but it's always variable, some girls are duds no matter what you do. Trying too hard to make sure everything lines up correctly is the best way to spoil it.

As for menstruation, no way to avoid. They usually know they have it, and know no customer would like that (apart from maybe 1% with a crazy fetish), but still chose to work. Usually they take precautions like shoving a sponge out there or hoping it won't get too messy, this sometimes works, sometimes fails. Given that they're out working anyway, why would they choose to give up the session just because you remembered to ask the magic question of whether they have menstruation?[/QUOTE]Yes, those were the two or three questions that I asked. So I did not ask too many questions.

I am not saying that they have to give up the session just because I asked the magic question. But I am saying that they should let me know if I ask and allow me to decide because I do not want to end up with a bloody condom and bloody bed-sheets, which is a major turn-off. Just like you said, they already know that customers do not like menstruation.

If you rent a car and the engine blows after five minutes when you were very gentle with the gas pedal, is it your fault?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2453239]Why did you avoid Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether? Of all the places you mentioned (Soi 4 and Thermae in Bangkok, anywhere in Pattaya), Nana Plaza probably would have had the most easily agreeable, customer-oriented, English fluent, slim, young Thai girls who understand why they suit up in a bikini or less and clock in on the job every day. Those other places are going to be much more hit and miss, sprinkled with P4P-curious hobbyists, waste-of-time hustlers and, particularly in the case of Pattaya, girls used to dealing with many customers who rush to the 7-11 to scarf up those horrid pre-packaged sandwiches just before their expiration date in order to save 17.50 baht. So they are naturally used to providing less than mediocre service, probably not worth it at any price.

Of course, that was pre Covid-19. Post Covid-19, who knows what kind of options will be available in those places, if any.[/QUOTE]I do not have a single absolute reason for avoiding Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. I did hear they are quite pushy once you are inside. Contrary to what many here believe, both Pattaya girls involved barfines and lady's drinks. I will provide more details if I get around to it. While at Soi 4, I did do a walk around on all floors at Nana Plaza. They would always slide the curtains for me to sample the action inside. Many had zero customers and some had maybe only two or three customers. So I did not feel comfortable going inside. I guess it didn't help that it was on a weekday. But had I been privy to the intel you provide regarding Nana, I probably would have dared to venture inside one or two of the establishments at the Plaza.

I do not believe there ever will be a Post-Covid-19 phase. I believe the virus is here to stay for the long term. With the safety measures in place, it may be contained but most likely not eradicated considering the high number of asymptomatic cases. I believe the implementation of the social distancing rules will not make it viable for Nana Plaza to re-open in the near future. But that is just my opinion.

Regarding the 7-11 sandwiches, I re-read the Thermae report. I mis-wrote. They were not 7-11 sandwiches. They were Subway sandwiches. The total bill was around 400 Baht for two persons. I do not think that is cheap as in 17.50 Baht. Even though they are hookers, I treat them as my guests. So I would never buy them 7-11 sandwiches.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2453039]Well, I first went to Soi 4 to grab a freelancer. I talked to 3 or 4 of them. But none spoke English. The all pulled out their cellphones to use the translator. I only had 2 or 3 questions for them. I did not get any satisfactory answers. Then they started questioning me. It was taking forever with the translator. So I said screw it. Then I remembered people talking about Thermae. So I went there to have a look. It wasn't really my intention to grab a girl there. But it was much easier although the girl spoke very little English. And look how that turned out.

She was the only girl in Bangkok. I avoided Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy altogether. After Bangkok, I went to Pattaya for a week. I only had two girls in Pattaya and then I gave up. Both were bad experiences. Maybe I'm not doing it right. But I don't see why it should be so difficult.

With one of the girls, I specifically asked her if she had menstruation. Of course, she did not understand. So we had to use the translator again. Her answer was no. Did she actually understand the question? And was the translation correct? I do not know. Half an hour later, we are having sex in the hotel. After a few thrusts, I can tell something is not right. It feels like my dick is drowning in a pool of grease. There is way too much lubrication. It can only mean one thing, blood. I know because it has happened once before elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Newsflash.

1. Number 1.

2. C number 1.

I'm not talking about the Free immigration girls, bank tellers, office managers, etc that so many here get.

The kind that will make you breakfast.

The kind that don't care you are 70 and they are 30. It's just a number.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2453256]Excluding Thai bars which you did not attend, every single girl except maybe a handful I met in Thailand speaks English. Pretty low odds given I've likely spoken to 1000s and 1000s of girls. How in the world did you manage to get 3 Thai girls who needed to use Google translate? Do you have an accent and it's the girls who don't understand you? I've seen that happen before. I've only had to ever use Google translate with one single girl in Thailand and that's because she just turned of age and it was her first ever night working. Even now 5 years later working in various Walking Street gogo bars her English is awful so it's just her inability to learn English.

ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.[/QUOTE]The other Pattaya girl spoke decent English. She worked at a gogo bar in LK Metro and her barfine was 1000 Baht. So it was 2 out 3 that needed Google translate. The menstruation Pattaya girl also involved a barfine at a beer bar also in LK Metro.

I do not have an accent, not a funny one, if that's what you mean. And there were plenty of those in the LK Metro area.

Somehow, I got the impression it's more freelancer oriented in Bangkok and more barfine oriented in Pattaya. But maybe I am mistaken.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2453262]BananaBoi, you're probably right since that is the usual objection to taking go-go girls or the reason someone chooses to go the FL route instead. But I often read here that go-go girls are less service-oriented, less giving, are more difficult to get GFE with (True GFE or not) and so on. Maybe that was part of his reasoning as well.

For example, it has been posted that go-go girls are the least likely to agree to bb or give a BBBJ+CIM compared to other options. They are certainly presumed to give the least accomplished ones. And I think the idea is they are less likely to be agreeable to those things or do a good job of it because they are typically younger, in better shape, don't need to give so much for the money, in a hurry to get back to the bar and so on. But, I have to say none of that has been my experience with go-go girls vs FLs on the street, in Thermae, massage shop girls, whatever..[/QUOTE]I actually have a different viewpoint albeit my very limited experience. I think BBBJ is more likely in a gogo or a beer bar. Both Pattaya girls gave me BBBJ. The Thermae girl did not. In fact, the second day in Bangkok, I returned to Thermae and talked to about half a dozen girls. (I realize it's not exact science.) They all said no to BBBJ. One said she will do CBJ. Then I left. I will never go to Thermae again. I might just go there for a beer and to observe the talent. But to me, many of them look extremely arrogant. But then again, I'm not so sure Thermae will re-open any time in the near future either. I guess it's no loss for the most of us here.

Then after giving up on the girls, I visited almost every single gogo bar in LK Metro. There was very little pressure for lady's drinks and I was happy to buy one or two here and there. I realized this was more fun and less stressful than actually getting a girl. I did not like the Walking Street agogos. Almost everywhere it was "You barfine me! You lady drink me! You tip me!" The only place that was benign was Baccara.