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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2458381]If I understand your post correctly you seem somewhat surprised ET that girls who have red lines about unprotected sex are not abandoning these now that business is hard to come by.

Why would they?

Why should they?

It would be sad and unfortunate if now that business has all but dried up they had to forego their standards to pay the rent.

The usual there is little or no risk chatter can be inserted into the conversation here but bottom line these girls care about their health and are not prepared to take chances which incidentally data shows are not imaginary.

I am also a little surprised ET that you seem to describe anything other than BBFS "meager basic standard fare". I get it, BB is what you need but I believe for most punters the wearing of a condom is not a game changer and does not make the difference between a good session and one less so and also not going BB is not her way of saying I don't care whether you have a good time or not.

No doubt BB is preferable but for me at least there is a lot more going on than sticking my dick in her pussy. It includes teasing, foreplay, kissing (precovid), rimming, BBBJ, massage, anal (covered) games / uniforms role playing and so on. Satisfaction also very much depends on the personality of the girl, her overall experience and technique, her looks and her enthusiasm in giving you a good time.

Maybe I picked you up wrong ET I don't know. The main point of your post I do agree with which is that they are very few customers for the girls whether they do BB or not.[/QUOTE]What I don't get is why a 70 year who can get freebies with hot 25 year olds easy as pie is even looking to pay.

I have to imagine it's much better for the Ego to get it Free.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458360]This is where we separate the big boys from the rest of the group. We need spies. Hidden cameras, photos, stealth and stuff. Somebody show us what's the talent level and what's really on the ground in BKK. It's 2020 and for most part in the BKK thread we get what? Let's go back a read a few pages. Does anybody truly "hunt" anymore? Anyways, I frequented Thermae quite a bit and probably have taken over 80 or so girls in there. To be honest, there are some cute but very few to the level of hotness except for May (multi pics). May is what I consider hot, not many flaws. The others that I have included are decent to cute.[/QUOTE]Hotness is subjective. My read is that hotter girls are out more recently when you are not in BKK. Before that, the selection was not good and that is consistent with your experience when you were in BKK.

It's 2020, is it so unreasonable to ask that those in Bangkok be able to snap a few pictures of the scene or what's going on in and around Sukhumvit, Thermae, Nana? People act like the camera on their phones aren't working. Guys have no problem going up to a girl asking for BBFS, but yet snapping a photo here and there might be too embarrassing. Geez.

Just pretend you are texting, zoom in, and hit the snap photo button.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2458482]What I don't get is why a 70 year who can get freebies with hot 25 year olds easy as pie is even looking to pay.

I have to imagine it's much better for the Ego to get it Free.[/QUOTE]For the ease of variety that paying offers. Same reason most punters exist instead of just settling down with a wife or girlfriend and expecting all their sexual needs to be met right there in the same bed with the same lady day after day.

Freebies are not "easy as pie." Not good quality ones. Not for me anyway. You might have read that idea expressed on someone else's posts.

Good quality freebies are as rare as gold nuggets in a mountain stream.

Hi guys,

I would like to know if anyone of you would recommend a hot black girl non making drama. I live in BKK so would like to change from Thai girls, but heard so much about Black girl robbing money or not making drama during sex. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2458381]If I understand your post correctly you seem somewhat surprised ET that girls who have red lines about unprotected sex are not abandoning these now that business is hard to come by.

Why would they?

Why should they?

It would be sad and unfortunate if now that business has all but dried up they had to forego their standards to pay the rent.

The usual there is little or no risk chatter can be inserted into the conversation here but bottom line these girls care about their health and are not prepared to take chances which incidentally data shows are not imaginary.

I am also a little surprised ET that you seem to describe anything other than BBFS "meager basic standard fare". I get it, BB is what you need but I believe for most punters the wearing of a condom is not a game changer and does not make the difference between a good session and one less so and also not going BB is not her way of saying I don't care whether you have a good time or not.

No doubt BB is preferable but for me at least there is a lot more going on than sticking my dick in her pussy. It includes teasing, foreplay, kissing (precovid), rimming, BBBJ, massage, anal (covered) games / uniforms role playing and so on. Satisfaction also very much depends on the personality of the girl, her overall experience and technique, her looks and her enthusiasm in giving you a good time.

Maybe I picked you up wrong ET I don't know. The main point of your post I do agree with which is that they are very few customers for the girls whether they do BB or not.[/QUOTE]I used what I am looking for in a session to make it worth paying for as a "for instance." For others, a deal killer might be No DFK, Covered BJ Only, etc. Some might even be put off by a Short Time being only 30-45 minutes with one pop instead of 90 minutes with 2 pops.

In the case of a typical better looking Thermae girl, at least the ones I have approached (and been invited to approach by their body language), just about all of the above restrictions and limitations were firmly in place. And I would define that as "meager basic standard fare" in the P4P world.

I would also submit that such restrictions and limitations can and do exist outside of Thermae's particular bar culture wherever enough low demand yet high paying customers prevail.

Late edit/addition: There is no reason that a girl "should" adapt to anything I want or any other customer wants re the above when or if they really need the money. Unless they insist on really needing the money from ME instead of the next guy the way they pretend to pitch their sale so often. Lol

[QUOTE=Gargano19;2458347]Not sure when were you in bkk but I saw some better looking girls than covid-lockdown-usual quality yesterday around soi 4 and thermae. It was Saturday, and everyone is talking that curfew is ending on Monday. So that will bring few of hookers back in game.

And the online things like TF / tinder existed before covid, but still thermae was full of hot girls. Some girls just prefer to choose their customers by seeing them in person, it's that simple. Saying that I never pick any wg from streets in Thailand, no matter how hot. So I will wait for them to be standing under a roof before I pick them. Till then Tinder matches are just going fine. And I stopped using TF, just don't like the quality of girls over here in bkk. Tinder has way better options from what I've seen.[/QUOTE]Some good points there. The problem with online shopping is MANY girls can appear to be flawlessly beautiful or very close to it on their profile pics. If a girl is truly beautiful and wants to capitalize on her beauty, put herself way ahead of pack in order to score an eager, generous paying customer as quickly as possible without time and chat devoted to it, she needs to show up on the scene in person.

But on the idea that Thermae girls are "hot", "beautiful" or "top tier", I for one always try to frame it as "better looking Thermae girls" or "top tier Thermae girls" in the sense that those particular girls are better looking than most other girls working in Thermae that night.

It isn't that I would consider any girl working in Thermae to be "top tier" compared to other women in the world, women in Thailand or even women that can be seen riding an escalator in the nearest mall at 8pm.

Just compared to other girls in Thermae on a given night.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2458482]What I don't get is why a 70 year who can get freebies with hot 25 year olds easy as pie is even looking to pay.

I have to imagine it's much better for the Ego to get it Free.[/QUOTE]Forgot to add, I don't think I have ever chosen a particular girl or tried to get her for free rather than pay based on how my doing so would boost my ego.

I've been to Bangkok, but it was 10 yrs ago and looking to go back August. So I remember nana plaza and all the open gogo bars on walking streets.

I've been going to FKK's in Germany for many years and I like the nude, inside, relaxed atmosphere of the clubs.

Question.

Are there any night clubs, in Bangkok, that are inside (no bar on the street with open windows) where the women walk around either fully nude or at least topless?

That might have an atmosphere similar to the FKK?

I'm not going to be that picky in my question, so I will say that I will pick the nude and / or topless aspect over being all inside.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2458580]I used what I am looking for in a session to make it worth paying for as a "for instance." For others, a deal killer might be No DFK, Covered BJ Only, etc. Some might even be put off by a Short Time being only 30-45 minutes with one pop instead of 90 minutes with 2 pops.

In the case of a typical better looking Thermae girl, at least the ones I have approached (and been invited to approach by their body language), just about all of the above restrictions and limitations were firmly in place. And I would define that as "meager basic standard fare" in the P4P world.

I would also submit that such restrictions and limitations can and do exist outside of Thermae's particular bar culture wherever enough low demand yet high paying customers prevail.

Late edit/addition: There is no reason that a girl "should" adapt to anything I want or any other customer wants re the above when or if they really need the money. Unless they insist on really needing the money from ME instead of the next guy the way they pretend to pitch their sale so often. Lol[/QUOTE]I'm with you, a girl with too many limitations on her service, it's over after you pop even if that happens in the first 30 minutes, no kissing, the blow job is covered, she doesn't want DATY signals a greater likelihood that the experience will be disappointing. I agree this attitude could probably does rise to the level of "meager basic standard fare". That said if she does not do BBFS I don't regard this as indicative of a bad attitude. As you say we all have standards. I'm not judging the punters who need BBFS but I understand girls not providing it to avoid taking chances with their health.

I just read a coconuts article mentioning this area in Pathum Thani. A couple girls got fined for not wearing a mask while offering boom boom in the street to passing cars, 555! Apparently that area is known for that. It seems like a fun trip to me, but I'm not sure of the exact location of the street. Soi Pan Sook (translates to sharing) is a local nickname. So I have no idea of the real street name. Is anybody aware of where it could be, or has been to this area? I'm close to Pathum Thani. So I'the be happy to report more if I can find it.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2458482]What I don't get is why a 70 year who can get freebies with hot 25 year olds easy as pie is even looking to pay.

I have to imagine it's much better for the Ego to get it Free.[/QUOTE]For most of us, ego is not even a consideration.

[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2458482]What I don't get is why a 70 year who can get freebies with hot 25 year olds easy as pie is even looking to pay.

I have to imagine it's much better for the Ego to get it Free.[/QUOTE]Ego has little to do with your achievements or rewards. If we all go shopping for mangoes, and a few were able to select the sweetest and best, while others were only able to get sour, unripe, overripe, or rotten ones. That is our achievement. We all have our own skills. It's okay to let others know of your achievements. That's not ego. Ego is selfishness and not sharing with the rest on how to select the best mangoes. That's ego. If you find the fountain of youth, that's your reward. Ego makes you want to keep it for yourself. Empathy, makes you want to share it. So when you see selfish acts that only think of "the self," and not of the greater good. That's ego and that's evil. Just saying. Always keep in mind the greater good, even it means sacrificing. So who is your favorite Care Bear who loves to share?

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But on the idea that Thermae girls are "hot", "beautiful" or "top tier", I for one always try to frame it as "better looking Thermae girls" or "top tier Thermae girls" in the sense that those particular girls are better looking than most other girls working in Thermae that night.
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[/QUOTE]If I have to generalize and rank places based on looks of working girls, it will be.

1. Nightclubs.

2. Gogos.

3. Thermae.

4. Dating sites like TF.

5. Masaage shops.

6. Bars like beer garden which I believe is no more.

7. Streetwalkers.

Now I don't have much experience in soapies in Bangkok, so not including it. Same with Gentleman clubs.

Now in above list, only TF or similar sites is place where you can't see person in real. Girl can use old pics, highly photoshopped pics or lie about age (or about the fact that they used to have same thing between their legs which they'll be taking in LOL), and someone can decide to meet based on that. When I started using TF, I have had my fair share of encounters where I just didn't want to fuck her, once she was in room, and we just went with the flow. Then I just stopped using online sites except smooci, and just picked girls from gogos and nightclubs, which was simply great. But this lockdown forced me to return to TF, when I ran our of contacts and Tinder went dry for a few days. I met 6 girls during this time from TF, all pretty enough and all were VFM except one. The most basic thing I used to filter out other girls was video call. Anyone who said no, blocked, no matter how "hot". I filtered out around 50+ girls, which would have been waste of money and time if I ended up meeting them. And all looked good enough on their profile pics.

This for me is the best solution to avoid any surprises from online "shopping".

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2458360]This is where we separate the big boys from the rest of the group. We need spies. Hidden cameras, photos, stealth and stuff. Somebody show us what's the talent level and what's really on the ground in BKK. It's 2020 and for most part in the BKK thread we get what? Let's go back a read a few pages. Does anybody truly "hunt" anymore? Anyways, I frequented Thermae quite a bit and probably have taken over 80 or so girls in there. To be honest, there are some cute but very few to the level of hotness except for May (multi pics). May is what I consider hot, not many flaws. The others that I have included are decent to cute.[/QUOTE]Yeah these are some real cuties, MP, just like I like them: slim and stacked. Thanks.