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[QUOTE=Onmyway]Hi,

Also, anyone recommend an area to stay in? I have to be on a plane Wednesday morning at 7:30 am. [/QUOTE]Then get busy and book your room NOW! Tourist numbers last month were up by 18% over the same month in the prior year. Occupancy rates are high and it's very, very difficult to get a room.

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[QUOTE=Gildo]Are you Japanese? I've been to fetish clubs and massage parlors where they told me the only foreigners they accept are Japanese. Even if you're not, there should be some MP around Kangnam with signs in Japanese, you can try to walk in and see if you get lucky. With a combination of Japanese and English, they can probably figure out what you want. Myung-do will also be a good location to check out since that is the big shopping area with the most Japanese tourists.

I live fairly close to Kangnam, and I can show you around the Kangnam area during the evening if you'd like. What day will you be in Seoul?[/QUOTE]Hi Gildo, That would be great. I will be there on Tuesday. Where and when could we meet? I don't know the area. I can speak and read Japanese to some degree.

[QUOTE=Seoulstice]Then get busy and book your room NOW! Tourist numbers last month were up by 18% over the same month in the prior year. Occupancy rates are high and it's very, very difficult to get a room.

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[url]http://www.wego.com/hotels/korea-republic-of/seoul[/url][/QUOTE]Hey. Thanks for the great list. I was thinking I should stay near Kimpo International Airport because my flight (from Incheon) is so early -7:30am. Are any of these near there?

Thanks.

[quote=abuasian1]oh, so i guess if there's gonna be a bust and the police manage to confirep001e "my" girl's mobile phone, then i'm screwed.

anybody know what happens if someone gets busted? i heard you get fined couple of thousand $ and it goes on your record.[/quote]

i think this thing is getting way out of hand. i've lived in korea for more than 14 years and have visited various rld establishments over the years, have given my number dozens of times, and have never had problems.

in most cases, i've only heard of problems with people teaching illegally in korea or dealing drugs which is a big no-no. that will totally get you busted.

forgot to also mention that if you do visit rld establishments, never use your credit card because those records are traceable as well as foolproof evidence that you visited those types of place for p4p.

besides those mentioned above, don't psyche yourself out and stop worrying about those people who are feeding your fears.

cheers,

zack

[QUOTE=Onmyway]Hi Gildo, That would be great. I will be there on Tuesday. Where and when could we meet? I don't know the area. I can speak and read Japanese to some degree.[/QUOTE]

Well, that kind of information should be PMed as per forum rules. However, since you're not a (paid) member, it will be difficult for other members to contact you.

I've been living and working in Seoul and will also probably be available on Wednesday evening (can't guarantee), but only after 10 pm in my case. Not sure exactly where you'd like to go but PM me information about how long you'll be staying and I can send other contact info.

cheers,

zack

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]I think this thing is getting way out of hand. I've lived in Korea for more than 14 years and have visited various RLD establishments over the years, have given my number dozens of times, and have never had problems.

Besides those mentioned above, don't psyche yourself out and stop worrying about those people who are feeding your fears.[/QUOTE]
Just because YOU have not had a problem, does not mean that you won't or that other people haven't. (I always love the reasoning "Well, it never happened to ME, so it's not a problem")

It's got nothing to do with a "climate of fear". Protect your information with due diligence and there's no reason to "fear" anything. Go around giving your information willynilly and you have no one to blame but yourself IF things go wrong.

Go right ahead and give your number out, I will do otherwise, and we can both be happy with our personal choices. I know and have worked with several officers in the Cyber Crimes division of the police and the Korean division of Interpol, so just because you have been lucky and not been caught in a sting over your 14 years (and you may never be caught in such stings) doesn't mean you shouldn't keep your info close to the vest.

Throwing your information around while you are knowingly breaking the law is stupid, regardless of the likelihood of you actually getting caught. What you call "feeding his fears", I call "being cautious".

[QUOTE=Coitus68]It's got nothing to do with a "climate of fear". Protect your information with due diligence and there's no reason to "fear" anything. Go around giving your information willynilly and you have no one to blame but yourself IF things go wrong.

Go right ahead and give your number out, I will do otherwise, and we can both be happy with our personal choices. I know and have worked with several officers in the Cyber Crimes division of the police and the Korean division of Interpol, so just because you have been lucky and not been caught in a sting over your 14 years (and you may never be caught in such stings) doesn't mean you shouldn't keep your info close to the vest.

Throwing your information around while you are knowingly breaking the law is stupid, regardless of the likelihood of you actually getting caught. What you call "feeding his fears", I call "being cautious".[/QUOTE]

I think you're reading way too much into what I'm saying. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the likelihood of being caught as a "john" for a working girl just having your phone number is almost miniscule. Just someone having your phone number on their phone is no grounds for prosecution.

Of course being cautious is the better choice, but in the case of Abuasian, he's already given out his number. In other words, he can't do anything else about it because it's already been done. So, I'm just trying to let him know that he doesn't have that much to worry about and not become paranoid.

[QUOTE=Coitus68Just because YOU have not had a problem, does not mean that you won't or that other people haven't. (I always love the reasoning "Well, it never happened to ME, so it's not a problem")[/QUOTE]

Well, I only gave my example as a frame of reference to reassure Abuasian for something that's already been done. Perhaps you have far more knowledge and 'expertise' about the inner workings of law enforcement and john-busting than I do.

The only times I'd ever heard about john-busting was for customers who had used their credit cards to pay and/or who were entering or already in the establishment when the police raided. If I'm wrong, excuse my ignorance.

cheers,

zack

Hongdae is an area surrounded by 4 universities. It is where the uni crowd hangs out. You need some korean language skills to try and pick up a uni girl. The uni girls always are in a group of at least 2.

I have gotten in contact with fellow ISG member Seoulstice and we are wondering if anyone else on the board would be interested in getting together with us to go to a Room Salon sometime in the near future. We are under the impression that the more people we go with, the cheaper it will be for each group member. Feel free to send a PM to one of us and let us know if you're interested. Also, any particular Room Salon recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks everyone.

[QUOTE=Ezinho]I have gotten in contact with fellow ISG member Seoulstice and we are wondering if anyone else on the board would be interested in getting together with us to go to a Room Salon sometime in the near future. We are under the impression that the more people we go with, the cheaper it will be for each group member. Feel free to send a PM to one of us and let us know if you're interested. Also, any particular Room Salon recommendations are appreciated.

Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]Sure man. I can't PM but you can send me one so I can contact you. Where/when will this be? I leave in less than 2 weeks and wouldn't mind doing this as a last hurrah. Let me know.

[QUOTE=Imperfection]Sure man. I can't PM but you can send me one so I can contact you. Where/when will this be? I leave in less than 2 weeks and wouldn't mind doing this as a last hurrah. Let me know.[/QUOTE]Actually, we cannot send PMs to you either. Sorry. I just tried and was blocked. Whether it's worse the price of a membership is your call.

Kimchi Warrior:

So-ae at Peach Fuzz used to provide a great GFE. However, one time I was in the bathroom getting my money ready, and another customer came in which she scuttled away to another room. She then kicked me out! I refused to leave, and she had a tantrum Korean style. Obviously because he was going to drop more $. Hence why guys need to be aware that in Itaewon don't pay more than 100, 000won. If you do, you are spoiling it for the rest of us expats.

I will be visiting seoul in couple of months. I will be staying for 7-8 nights, mostly for pleasure. I was looking into hotels in seoul, and I don't want to spend $100 a night. A friend of mind suggest that I look into budget motels in seoul, usually charging $30-$40 a night. I checked out one motel website, and they look incredible for so little. Can anybody suggest a website where I can finds these types of motels? Someone told me they are considered "love motels, " but I don't mind at all.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Kimchi Warrior:

So-ae at Peach Fuzz used to provide a great GFE. However, one time I was in the bathroom getting my money ready, and another customer came in which she scuttled away to another room. She then kicked me out! I refused to leave, and she had a tantrum Korean style. Obviously because he was going to drop more $. Hence why guys need to be aware that in Itaewon don't pay more than 100, 000won. If you do, you are spoiling it for the rest of us expats.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear that didn't work out for you, especially as I might have been behind curtain no.2; although I didn't overhear any tantrum. Was this 6-8 weeks ago early on Saturday or Sunday morning?

If it's any consolation, this has happened to me with her too. I was sitting at the little bar once when a punter (who as far as I know does not read this board) came in whom I have reason to know regularly drops KRW1,000,000 per session with her. Even though I'm one of her regulars, I didn't hesitate, but voluntarily excused myself, because the gracious thing to do seemed to be to let her have the big payday. I wasn't planning on it, but it later turned out to pay off for me too. She called me afterwards and invited me out to dinner and fun.

In my experience, treating the girls, especially the better ones, like more than economy class sperm receptacles usually returns significant dividends. YMMV

[QUOTE=Zackary Kr]If the girl is really serious about you, she'll meet you outside of work and you guys would go on "dates" where money is not expected. On three occasions that has happened to me where I've met working girls outside and it was just a regular date that ended with a nice nightcap and no money was expected. However, I did treat them like a girlfriend and we would have a good night out together. [/QUOTE]How and when did you meet your girls outside? Was it during their off-days? I asked the girl that I go to about meeting outside during her off-days, and she said that's a no-no because of something to do with cutting time? I'm not sure what she meant as I text messaged her about it and she replied back with a limited answer due to the text limit. I'll talk to her more about it next time I meet her, but that's probably going to be around next month. I'm not actually looking for a serious relationship with her, but I really do enjoy her company.