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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1251854]Likewise. If I had known how fucking hot they were, I'd not have been delayed coming here by 2 years due to the photos there. Sometimes I wonder if there is a conspiracy. Add to that all the posts about it being too expensive in Thailand now and the market is ruined and the girls are all spoiled, you have to wonder if that is all part of the same goal to keep guys away from LOS in order to make it better for those who are posting such drivel.[/QUOTE]I hear you. When I was trying to decide between Thailand and Cambodia for my first mongering trip I had about decided on Cambodia because of all the negative posts here. (Or at least staying in Bangkok) I'm glad I continued reading to find out what a wonderful place Pattaya appears to be. Now I am planning most of my vacation in Pat.

I just met up with an old friend from back in the days on Facebook, had some lunch with him, and was telling him of some of my exploits in Thailand and he is really itching to tag along next time I visit. He's single with no kids nor a whole lot of responsibilities tying him down. The only concern I have for him, is he's half Mexican, somewhat dark and would suffer from racial discrimination from the Thai babes. Heck, when we were young his nickname was either "the brown one" or "Turd"

Will the girls ignore him because they think he's Indian or Arab? He has a goatee and I told him to shave it off before he comes to LOS.

[quote=pinkpearl; 1251854]likewise. if i had known how fucking hot they were, i'd not have been delayed coming here by 2 years due to the photos there. such drivel / quote]the days of 1000bt are over or becoming rare, except when demand is low. floods will do it. reasonable lookers in the soapy fishbowls get 700-1000 per 1. 25 hour session. and 'worked'. bar owners abuse and confuse this forum, and expertly milk the market for all its worth. my expectation is now 1500bt either st or lt and bf 300-600 and no guarantees. this makes a fishbowl attractive, and more attractive over high season. sure you can pick older beer bar 2nds for less, but sparkling pretty. no. there is a 'plus' premium on walking street, so hunting away from the strip will get you a better deal.

retirees and pensioners can do better, but its getting hard to spot 'unclaimed' companions for fly in-out tourists.

i'd say the bar owners are ripping punters off, but the fact is, on turnover they are marginal, and yield on return low for non-thai's at least. the 1000bt soi 6 quickies keeps a lid on unreasonable expectations.

now because the western economy is in the shit as well as job security, its a pretty poor proposition to travel so far and punt $70 or more for a mediocre deal + all other factors (food, airfare, accom) so many are staying shorter, spending in bursts, unless other factors like a shitty winter in home country come in to play. what i don't like is the new y gen thai who wastes time, and drops false expectations. reminiscent of vietnamese haggle where loose-loose is a possible or likely outcome.

i'd say bar owners need to fix up quality issues. but i know they have a hard time as it is, tg's excel in giving them new headaches, and the number of punters not playing the game, and 'walking' puts tg in a bad mood.

los is still a good destination. just not as good as before, and value down by about as much as the dollar has depreciated.

going bonkers is a good enough reason. but my tip is not ask the price, but tell them, else walk. by the 4th day they 'get' it, or their friends will approach you. or the manager may take a hand and ask whats wrong, then take a 'haircut' where you get the mid-tier price. be careful about letting them buy you free whiskeys, cause this genuine? attempt dropped my barriers and i purchased bf several nights in a row. so there are smart managers out there, who try to 'turn' shoppers into paying customers vs those that tell tg their judgement is always good and to ask for the sky.

the good thing about repeat los visitors is that they remember you, and you do not have to start from square one.

if you can hook up with a members party, you can get up to speed fast, and get that 'newbie' sticker erased from your forehead & have a good time.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1252377]I just met up with an old friend from back in the days on Facebook, had some lunch with him, and was telling him of some of my exploits in Thailand and he is really itching to tag along next time I visit. He's single with no kids nor a whole lot of responsibilities tying him down. The only concern I have for him, is he's half Mexican, somewhat dark and would suffer from racial discrimination from the Thai babes. Heck, when we were young his nickname was either "the brown one" or "Turd"

Will the girls ignore him because they think he's Indian or Arab? He has a goatee and I told him to shave it off before he comes to LOS.[/QUOTE]That is intersesting because I don't believe I have ever seen a Mexican in Thailand. Like anyone though, if he is clean, dressed appropriately, smiles and shows some generousity, he should not have a problem.

[QUOTE=GPa69;1252176]I hear you. When I was trying to decide between Thailand and Cambodia for my first mongering trip I had about decided on Cambodia because of all the negative posts here. (Or at least staying in Bangkok) I'm glad I continued reading to find out what a wonderful place Pattaya appears to be. Now I am planning most of my vacation in Pat.[/QUOTE]Cambodia and Thailand are not even close for mongering. I hope everyone realizes that.

[QUOTE=Harold444;1252665]I find it hard to believe FREE anything especially in Bangkok![/QUOTE]Nothing is free for farangs in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1252377]I just met up with an old friend from back in the days on Facebook, had some lunch with him, and was telling him of some of my exploits in Thailand and he is really itching to tag along next time I visit. He's single with no kids nor a whole lot of responsibilities tying him down. The only concern I have for him, is he's half Mexican, somewhat dark and would suffer from racial discrimination from the Thai babes. Heck, when we were young his nickname was either "the brown one" or "Turd"

Will the girls ignore him because they think he's Indian or Arab? He has a goatee and I told him to shave it off before he comes to LOS.[/QUOTE]Mexican friend of mine from Texas came over to Pattaya to visit last February. No problems. He had a ball and didn't want to leave.

I will arrive on Saturday evening. How stupid will look if I walk around during the day with a video camera. Or should I just use a digital camera. I do not want to look more stupid that a normal tourist looks. Reports to follow.

Yeah, unfortunately for our Indian and Chocolate brethren, some of the Thai girls on dating sites will specifically state no Indians / Arab and Africans on their ad. I even see some that say no Asians / Thais which lends me to believe they might have ulterior motives rather than meeting their soulmate

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1252618]That is intersesting because I don't believe I have ever seen a Mexican in Thailand. Like anyone though, if he is clean, dressed appropriately, smiles and shows some generousity, he should not have a problem.[/QUOTE]Luvpuss,

Where you from would you really recognize a Mexican if he wasn't wearing a Sombero or Poncho LOL?

LBM

[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1253117]How stupid will look if I walk around during the day with a video camera.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about walking around with a camcorder, HD 3. They're are millions of tourists a year wandering around with cams and vidcams of every possible description. Literally millions. The Thais are used to it and who cares what the other tourists think?

There is oodles and gazoodles of interesting stuff to tape. Make sure you get to the Erawan Shrine between 7 and 8 am or pm for interesting vids and be sure to take a long tailed boat ride. Temple of the Emerald Buddha is, of course, not to be missed.

I'd suggest being a tad discreet about taping in the pay-for-play areas. Some folks don't like to be caught on tape. If you don't get really obnoxious about it you'll be fine.

It might take a day or two to get used to things so don't get all freaked out if you are a little disoriented at first; it'll pass. You'll have a blast.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1252377]I just met up with an old friend from back in the days on Facebook, had some lunch with him, and was telling him of some of my exploits in Thailand and he is really itching to tag along next time I visit. He's single with no kids nor a whole lot of responsibilities tying him down. The only concern I have for him, is he's half Mexican, somewhat dark and would suffer from racial discrimination from the Thai babes. Heck, when we were young his nickname was either "the brown one" or "Turd"

Will the girls ignore him because they think he's Indian or Arab? He has a goatee and I told him to shave it off before he comes to LOS.[/QUOTE]I have just come back from a 4 week trip to heaven sorry I meant Thailand and from my personal experiance your mexican buddy should be fine. I was born and bred in the uk and have a pakistani background. Me and my buddies have spent the past month in Thailand and true some thai girls are racist but who gives a $%£. There was a dark skinned indian guy who was a cross between APU from the simpsons and the elephant man who had a different Russian supermodel with him every second night in my hotel so money talks at the end of the day. I spent a few days in phuket and a few days in Bangkok but most of our trip was spent in Pattaya. I went from soi 6/7/8 all the way to the top end of walking street and didn't encounter any problems must have had about 28 different chicks during my time here from ST 500 to a few super stunners at 2500LT (BUT no LADY BOYS HONEST) NO chick had a problem BUT it depends on the individual. True ARABS and INDIANS don't have a good rep here and it makes life a little tricker if you are a "non whitey" like me but who cares you just got to treat it as a game. When the chicks realised we werent indians or arabs they were cool. A few points to note are be nice and friendly to everyone you would be amazed wot a little smile can do. Be clean, tidy and smell good and you will be laughing all the way to the bedroom and beyond. One night my buddies and I picked up some girls from a bar and the boss wouldn't let the girls leave with us cause she thought we had 100 cousins back in the bedroom we all pulled out our different hotel key cards at the same time and the whole place was shocked and then erupted in laughter- then the boss just smiled and let the girls leave. *****. Another time one of the bars charged me 500 bht for a bar fine then my girl later told me that the boss charged me more cause he didn't like arabs WTF! I did notice that one of my darker mates got some funny looks especially when we went to some of the top bars in walking street but when most people heard our accents they were cool. Overall I had a great time here saw a lot of crazy shit met a lot of good people thais and americans\aussies\brits and I personally think your mexican buddy will be fine I really thought I had done my bit too improve racial harmony here in the land of smiles but then some iranian assholes messed it all up again I just know I am going to have to spend a long time at the thai airport next time I come here anyway hope you and your mexican buddy have fun I am sure you will and you know you will.

CP77