General Reports

[QUOTE=JoseMarti; 1138181]I tried the phone appointment girls on 141. They look extremely cute and attractive and wanted to try them. I bought a local SIM and called about 6 of them and SMSed 15.

Got no response or the person just hung up. Maybe it's an English issue.

Anyone know how this works?

-JM[/QUOTE]You are not calling the girl, you are calling the papasan. In my experiences, language can be an issue, some of them just hung up, but many of them have basic English skills to communicate. It works like this, you call the papasan, he wants you to come to a specific hotel and call him back. So you call him when you arrive and he tells you the room number. You proceed the room and he calls again to make sure that everything is OK and you are pleased with your girl. If you are pleased you get down to business, if not he suggests another girl. If you pick a popular girl, papasan may ask you to wait 20 mins (1-1, 5 hour)

Keep trying I am sure you will get the results.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1137865]The Rugby Sevens, and with it the idiotic, overpaying louts, are destroying the hobby in Wan Chai and beyond.[/QUOTE]I can't believe how ridiculously obnoxious Wan Chai was last night. I was warned it will be like the Navy being in town. Sure, maybe if the entire US Navy showed up at once, all drunk, dressed in stupid costumes.

Anyway, I couldn't walk through Escape, and Neptune was pretty bad. Found an amazing Thai girl though. I paid a pretty penny, but was worth it. She was here til 10am today.

When does the Rugby shit end? I'm only here for a few more days. I hope tonight or tomorrow WC is back to "normal".

[QUOTE=Hervay; 1137546]Hey there, this post about bubble butts made me hot for some big butt / breasts action. Therefore, I started looking for some western girls, but they're all charging like hkd5000 per hour! It's monstrous! Any idea on where to find big breasted non-asian girls for a more decent price here?

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]Take a trip over to macao. Enough saunas with russians there.

So I went in to New Makati around 5pm Sunday, it was already packed. Three hours later after a dozen girls grinded all up and down on me still nothing above a 5 and what is worse not one girls in there had softer hands then me, lots of guys though it was sellers market but I wouldn't take that garbage for free, so I took off, Are there no young girls here, I like 18-21, you guys have got it bad. If it wasn't for saunas and upper end all in the 500-1500 HKD range this would be worse than the US.

One more thing, I am staying on Mody Road in Tsim Sha Tsui, this morning I woke to two black guys stabbing each other in the street, and they both lay bleeding long before the police showed up, but what I just saw was far more disturbing, I heard a commotion outside to see Chinese people from all sides chase down some blonde hair white guy to the middle of the street and then they beat and kicked him for about a minute until he got free and ran, then they all just slowly walked away like it was nothing. Can't wait to get the hell out of here.

[QUOTE=Master Monger; 1138351]So I went in to New Makati around 5pm Sunday, it was already packed. Three hours later after a dozen girls grinded all up and down on me still nothing above a 5 and what is worse not one girls in there had softer hands then me, lots of guys though it was sellers market but I wouldn't take that garbage for free, so I took off, Are there no young girls here, I like 18-21, you guys have got it bad. If it wasn't for saunas and upper end all in the 500-1500 HKD range this would be worse than the US.

One more thing, I am staying on Mody Road in Tsim Sha Tsui, this morning I woke to two black guys stabbing each other in the street, and they both lay bleeding long before the police showed up, but what I just saw was far more disturbing, I heard a commotion outside to see Chinese people from all sides chase down some blonde hair white guy to the middle of the street and then they beat and kicked him for about a minute until he got free and ran, then they all just slowly walked away like it was nothing. Can't wait to get the hell out of here. [/QUOTE]Sorry. Just had to reply to your post.

You waited 3 hours to decide after glrls grinded you before you decided that none was above a 5? Why did you not leave earlier. What took you so long? There are plenty reports (mine included) of guys who knocked it off in New Makita with no mention of money and had a good time. Not one had softer hands than you? Soft hands is not on my criteria list and I suspect its not on many lists. So you held everones hands? So what. They are DW's after all.

There are plenty girls of the age you want in Wan Chai. Maybe it's you that has a problem?

What utter crap you talk about being worse than in the USA.

So you saw two black guys having a go? That's unusual in HK. (They were probably from your part of the World). One of the safest cities in the world. The fact that they were foreigners speaks for itself. You can bet your last dollar that if you saw Chinese guys chasing a blond guy and beating the hell out of him, he did something to deserve it. Again, extremely unusual.

Can't wait to get out of HK? We can't wait either.

Firstly, last night I did not go in to Nep2 because there was a 100 door charge (one free drink). There was an absolutr stunner 9/10 Thai girl outside. I asked her for all night action to morning at about 9 pm and got her quickly down to 1000 which looked like a good deal. I was playing for 500 but would have paid at 700 (+300 hotel charge for whole night).

I had a choice to make and did not mong with her. I changed my mind towards renegotiation as too good to miss and headed back towards her but she snuck back into the club. Very very fit and petite going by Nat / Nut. Should not have passed up but needed to get an overnight bag and just left it in the end.

Really enjoyed Neptune 2 today. Lots of mongers doing some good dance floor and off-dance floor monging. Plenty of girls even though more packed than usual and no live band. I wonder if any of you guys saw the unbelievably 10/10 body girl with the old Chinese guy? Her stomach and dancing was something else.

I had a good time with a few girls but got distracted towards the end and ended up being pulled away from the Indo I was enjoying a dance with by another Indo who is a friend but I could not go with as not my type. When I finally remembered I had been getting it on with a smaller Indo (don't know if pro or freeb) who I would gone with or at least had some pre-hotel action with. Older type, petite. 7 overall, but I see beauty where others see none sometimes so I rate her 7. 5.

I much prefer the non pros as the pros are many so sad and boring. Actually, although I did quite a bit of grinding, kissing, giving and receiving under and over clothes massages in the club today I had spent two hours this morning in a love hotel on Henessy Road getting sucked to the point of thr hardest boner of my life. She literally held on to

Johnny Hard Rocks with her mouth and locked her head neck like a vice (a freebie Philipin who has been after sex for a while). Although the BBBJ was toothy she just would not let cockus maximus breathe at all! I got concerned he might suffocate. Using force I eventually got her to release Biggus Dickus from her vacu-suck machine. And was left with the most monumental teenage hard-on I have had. Proceeded to mish etc etc. But could not come for whatever reason.

Self stimulation followed by a fantastic CIMWS and a follow on HJ with porno on TV and we were done.

So that is why I wasn't taking girls out of Neppy although there were definitely a number of girls worth a pop today as I am sure several of you will agree. The other trouble was that I committed to one girl and then realised I wanted her mate so ended up simply asking them both for some attention. One has day off Sat the other Sun so at least I don't have to worry about filling the weekend schedule next Friday. One of the girls was begging me to intro her to a prospective boyfriend but she is definitely not looking for a quickie in a hotel.

Really appreciated not being the only monger doing any work in the club today. It is always good to see other mongers having a go as well and having mutually good times with some nice girls.

Hey, I can understand you want to defend your town, you decided to live here. The forum is about information buddy, and the information is your working girls are ugly, except maybe above 1000HKD, a Ticket to Indonesia (I was speaking with all the girls in Indonesian tonight) is only 2000HKD, and I have never seen ugly girls like tonight when I have been there. It cost about 300HK to spend the whole night with a 7-8 GFE.

Why did I wait three hours. Because I RTFF and you guys said there are hot girls there, not callused handed, unibrow, hairy arm, flip-flop wearing, bucktooth, smelly breath, nasty ass, old skags! The youngest girl tonight was 25 according to them, And I didn't believe her. So I waited to see what you guys were talking about, because at the other clubs many reports say 1000HKD and up and I just ain't that foolish.

I could have taken any one of them home for free, but WHY, if you knew me at all you would know I am with beautiful young girls all the time and 50% of them are free.

All American cities have a bad part of town but NOT next to "Three" five star hotels at just after midnight. For you to justify the crime in this city really let's me know how shitty it is.

25 countries and over 200 cities and this is the worst I have seen, and I am not going to not report it just because I hurt your feelings. Truth hurts, but if you want to know what you are missing let me show you the inner workings of Shenzhen some time.

I wasn't going to even report about tonight but after I saw that crazy mob attack a foreigner I figured I better.

Last thing, how do you not look for soft hands you bisexual or something, the girls never touch you, I can't even have a masseuse with rough hands, it is just gross.

Anyway sorry for telling it like I saw it, but that is the way I do it!

MM.

PS Do a little research and check out my pics and posts from a few years ago before I settled in Shenzhen, before you Start slamming me, thanks!

I think Dan Rather was mugged on Park Ave. John Lennon was shot outside his classy digs. And so on. Crime does not discriminate.

[QUOTE=Master Monger;1138402]All American cities have a bad part of town but NOT next to "Three" five star hotels at just after midnight. For you to justify the crime in this city really let's me know how shitty it is.[/QUOTE]

Its the luck of the draw. Some days there are babes, and some days not. The solution is to go off to another bar. One should not look at an off day in any one bar and say well this place is crap. Do remember that these girls are domestic helpers and would most likely have rough hands. If you are looking for smooth hands, more presentable with better clothes, then you should consider the bars at night. Look up posts by Jackthelad2 who has shared valuable information on his experiences and bars to go to which spans the last few years. You should be able to get something for your price range. Otherwise pick up their numbers and arrange for some afternoon delight.

Consider also that you came here during Rugby Sevens weekend. I am sure one would find that a few of those cuties that are normally at Makati on Sunday would have been at the Sevens with a local punter having a party.

As for the incident on Mody Road, right across the street from the Holiday Inn is Mirador Mansion where a lot of black guys hang out together with an assortment of hookers. Right next to Holiday Inn is Chungking Mansion where a lot of black people hang out in front. I tend to stay away from these places since it does not look very safe and would not be surprised if altercations did not happen.

So like any city in the world, you have to know which places to avoid. As for the blonde haired white guy, he could have been drunk from the partying from the Sevens and did something to upset the locals. Its not unknown for somebody to have been partying all night and not upset the locals with their antics.

And now I leave you with some news that made the headlines some time back. There was a drunk westerner some months ago, who got into a taxi at Wanchai, commandeered the taxi, and drove crashed the car into a barricade near Central in the wee hours one morning.

With this in mind, should we use your analogy and assume all westerners are dangerous? Or should we look at this as a one off incident?

Have fun and stay safe!

[QUOTE=Master Monger; 1138351]So I went in to New Makati around 5pm Sunday, it was already packed. Three hours later after a dozen girls grinded all up and down on me still nothing above a 5 and what is worse not one girls in there had softer hands then me, lots of guys though it was sellers market but I wouldn't take that garbage for free, so I took off, Are there no young girls here, I like 18-21, you guys have got it bad. If it wasn't for saunas and upper end all in the 500-1500 HKD range this would be worse than the US.

One more thing, I am staying on Mody Road in Tsim Sha Tsui, this morning I woke to two black guys stabbing each other in the street, and they both lay bleeding long before the police showed up, but what I just saw was far more disturbing, I heard a commotion outside to see Chinese people from all sides chase down some blonde hair white guy to the middle of the street and then they beat and kicked him for about a minute until he got free and ran, then they all just slowly walked away like it was nothing. Can't wait to get the hell out of here. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1138604]Its the luck of the draw. .

Consider also that you came here during Rugby Sevens weekend. I am sure one would find that a few of those cuties that are normally at Makati on Sunday would have been at the Sevens with a local punter having a party.

[/QUOTE]Truer words were never spoken. Some of these Sevens morons, frankly, I'd have liked to joined the locals for a good kickin'. Sadly, many of these fools are expats who populate Lan Kwai Fong on a regular basis. And the talent in places like Amazonia was exceptional (as I posted earlier though, would not buy) in the runup to the Stoooopid Sevens. Also note that Master Monger went to one of the Makati bars, which are known as DH day-off dancing spots (where you cannot assume that every girl is a hooker or even semipro).

[QUOTE=Master Monger; 1138402]Hey, I can understand you want to defend your town, you decided to live here. The forum is about information buddy, and the information is your working girls are ugly, except maybe above 1000HKD, a Ticket to Indonesia (I was speaking with all the girls in Indonesian tonight) is only 2000HKD, and I have never seen ugly girls like tonight when I have been there. It cost about 300HK to spend the whole night with a 7-8 GFE.

Why did I wait three hours. Because I RTFF and you guys said there are hot girls there, not callused handed, unibrow, hairy arm, flip-flop wearing, bucktooth, smelly breath, nasty ass, old skags! The youngest girl tonight was 25 according to them, And I didn't believe her. So I waited to see what you guys were talking about, because at the other clubs many reports say 1000HKD and up and I just ain't that foolish.

I could have taken any one of them home for free, but WHY, if you knew me at all you would know I am with beautiful young girls all the time and 50% of them are free.

All American cities have a bad part of town but NOT next to "Three" five star hotels at just after midnight. For you to justify the crime in this city really let's me know how shitty it is.

25 countries and over 200 cities and this is the worst I have seen, and I am not going to not report it just because I hurt your feelings. Truth hurts, but if you want to know what you are missing let me show you the inner workings of Shenzhen some time.

I wasn't going to even report about tonight but after I saw that crazy mob attack a foreigner I figured I better.

Last thing, how do you not look for soft hands you bisexual or something, the girls never touch you, I can't even have a masseuse with rough hands, it is just gross.

Anyway sorry for telling it like I saw it, but that is the way I do it!

MM.

PS Do a little research and check out my pics and posts from a few years ago before I settled in Shenzhen, before you Start slamming me, thanks![/QUOTE]Well at on Sunday at 5 pm in Makati you pretty much limit yourselft to DH. Its normal they have rough hands because they work with their hands. You don't expect to find 9-10 looking domestic helpers in a pick up joint because it just does not make sense. (if they are soo hot and willing to do prostitution, they won't bother with cleaning other peoples mess.). Good thing about Hong Kong was is never the prices, its the choices:

-want a China doll, korean, Chinese, just use the 141 site. Its easy as a phone call. Just in 1-2 hours you can be with a girl which you picked from catalogue (heavily photoshopped) in a 4 star hotel room. For 700-800 and up.

-want a brothel and live pse? Just visit K pressure or Dundas. For 500 you can try your luck with a experienced Chinese lady and do all the kinky stuff if you make it clear with the mamasan.

-want to enjoy saunas? Macau is just hours away. Never tried myself but the things I read from macau board is enough to make me drool. I think its an experience every men should live.

-Want to pick up a girl from a bar? You can find mongolian, colombian, thai, vietnamese etc. Talent from the bars in wan chai for around 1000-1500.

-want freebies? Just dive into DH scene and you will end up with something. Its really easy. With the aid of sites like FH, your sundays can be more fun. I agree they are not stunners but they make it up with their hunger for sex. Any day I pick a average looking-great in bed to a stunner-starfish. Also you don't have to limit yourself with only indos-filipinas. With some effort you can find a local, but it takes time (in my case it took 3 dates)

-want walk ups, saunas, I saw some ladies around temple street, never tried, but its still an option and a cheap one.

I had been to HK 2 times and these are the things I know, I am sure more experienced members can add more info. And for the security, I can say that only Singapore is safer than HK. Its one of the safest cities I had been to. Maybe you are unlucky. I like HK because English is widely spoken, safe, food is great, public transport is awesome and you are spoiled by the choices. Bad things are the high prices and weather.

I should listen to my own addage: If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. I guess I just felt a little misled from the posts about New Makati, and then Temple was just disgusting, I am spoiled by China is the biggest problem. Also, with my Visa, Hotel, and Costs I already spent 15,000HKD this week so I am trying to be too conservative. I have spent 2000HKD+ on a girl before in the US and Canada and 800HKD in Costa Rica, Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Ukraine, Japan, Macau and even China once or twice. In China I take pics, video, all positions and Usually get GFE from a Dozen working girls a month and it only costs me "2,000HKD a month" so I am not in the right mindset. But seriously I have never seen a mob of 25-30 people descend on 1 person it was so surreal and right in front of the Rolex Dealership. I wish I would have video taped it, but in honesty I do have a Friend from England who got stabbed 8 times in Shenzhen, and his lack of anger towards the situation would imply he was asking for it. I guess it's the shock of seeing it with my own eyes.

I already said HK is good in the 500-1,500HKD range.

Tip: Why do I feel up a girls hands? Three reasons, one, I like soft hands, two, is much more important, feeling girl's hands you can tell their age and usually what the rest of her will be like, because in those dark clubs it us hard to tell. But Three is more from personal experience. 90% of the girls I have been with, with soft hands, have supplied me with GFE service. Another way to tell age is rubbing on the lines on the front part of a girl's neck, the more lines and the deeper they are the older she is. Using this technique I usually can guess any girl within 3 years. Practice and you can too.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1137865]The Rugby Sevens, and with it the idiotic, overpaying louts, are destroying the hobby in Wan Chai and beyond. Stoooopid pricing from the Filipina pros who have penciled in the event. (Though there has been a massive influx of talent. But they go quickly). One wanted $1000HK ST, $2500 overnight. Took a pass and will continue to do so. Funny, just got a txt msg from the girl as I'm typing this. Quite the little businesswomen.

Should note here the prevalence of saunas in Yau Ma Tei (Kowloon). A couple weeks ago I went one, called Yuk Chiu Lau at 6-6C Pak Tat Mansion, No 6-6C Nanking St. 90 minutes for $508 all inclusive and no tipping pressure (unlike some of the legit massage places, go figure). Anyway, I arrived on a weekday about 4 pm Had to wait about 15 minutes for a girl to become available. It was unclear whether the girls were still coming in (but probably, ugh, busy; I'll make a point of seeking out a virgin for the day by arriving earlier, but I digress). I refused the first 30ish lady brought to the massage room (and not a particularly nice room, plus I had to ask the girl to change the linens). The second one, Lu Lu (from Sichuan) , No. 66, however, fit the bill. Great uncovered BJ and she was into the sex, a hard rider. Lu Lu was on the petite side, nice pert and suckable nipples, though there was a bit sagging of the breasts. No big problem. The girl gets great points for enthusiasm.

I suspect there are hundreds of massage establishments just like Yuk Chiu Lau, and many of them are concentrated in the same buildings. The problem with the setup is that you cannot choose your girl beforehand, though you can refuse. But with only 10-12 girls total (and with some out of commission at times, or on their backs with other punters) you run a risk of not finding your heart's desire. The upside is that ultimately the pricing is only about $100HK more than a body massage at a legitimate place. I will add that Lu Lu provided an admirable massage after the deed, too. [/QUOTE]Wildhawk,

Yes, you are right. But it is always the same, more demand, higher prices. We experience it in HK, BJ, Canton and where ever else.

So it is the best way to save your money during these days if you don't have your private relationships to specific girls providing you their service without considering shortterm price developments.

Whomer

[QUOTE=Master Monger; 1138997]I should listen to my own addage: If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. I guess I just felt a little misled from the posts about New Makati, and then Temple was just disgusting, I am spoiled by China is the biggest problem. Also, with my Visa, Hotel, and Costs I already spent 15, 000HKD this week so I am trying to be too conservative. I have spent 2000HKD+ on a girl before in the US and Canada and 800HKD in Costa Rica, Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Ukraine, Japan, Macau and even China once or twice. In China I take pics, video, all positions and Usually get GFE from a Dozen working girls a month and it only costs me "2, 000HKD a month" so I am not in the right mindset. But seriously I have never seen a mob of 25-30 people descend on 1 person it was so surreal and right in front of the Rolex Dealership. I wish I would have video taped it, but in honesty I do have a Friend from England who got stabbed 8 times in Shenzhen, and his lack of anger towards the situation would imply he was asking for it. I guess it's the shock of seeing it with my own eyes.

I already said HK is good in the 500-1, 500HKD range.

Tip: Why do I feel up a girls hands? Three reasons, one, I like soft hands, two, is much more important, feeling girl's hands you can tell their age and usually what the rest of her will be like, because in those dark clubs it us hard to tell. But Three is more from personal experience. 90% of the girls I have been with, with soft hands, have supplied me with GFE service. Another way to tell age is rubbing on the lines on the front part of a girl's neck, the more lines and the deeper they are the older she is. Using this technique I usually can guess any girl within 3 years. Practice and you can too.[/QUOTE]This is getting more and more bizarre! Like the bondage room in Jordan.

I prefer rubbing twats myself rather than the lines on Indonesian maids necks to work out their age. Monger you truly are a Master Monger of the highest order.

Although I agree that it was kind of out of order of you to diss other members based on your personal dislike of HK I will agree that Makati is a pile of poo. But for those into it, it must be wicked. And I can understand your bad experience also. And your efforts are clear to me.

Even though some of the Indos are hotties I just know they could be flops in bed this is a place I need to leave alone for myself and others. I was going to have a threesome from there tonight but decided against. Found it rally difficult to get any freebie it was all "buy me a drink","I can only go for one hour" etc etc. Really not into the routine and there was some absolutely disgraceful cheek / ingratitude from the one girl I bought a drink like a mug and will never do that again. Makati goers. They're all yours. And some ultra fine pros at that.

I saw Nat the fitty small Thai again tonight. She almost agreed to 750 LT but I couldn't quite clinch the deal which is prob good as important meeting tomorrrow. 1000 wanted for LT but not sure what that entails. I suspect she is "wise" enough to be bad value for money now.

Sorry this post doesn't add much value. The better reports on Makati are when you get someone who goes in to such a place with the right intention and reports a high damage threesome and so on. As for me, still not willing to pamper these out of work maids for a service which is likely to disappoint IMHO. Much better for me to stick to Sundays where I seem to attract an unlimited supply of precisely the kind of girls and experiences I want.

Verdict: there is a premium to be paid in Wanchai if you find yourself wanting. If money is no object that is fine. If you are reluctant to pay a domestic helper who is waiting for a visa one third of her monthly salary for letting you stick your ckoc up her cnut when she knows that is what some of us mugs do so be it. In the words of my doctor " PLEASE safe sex.

At the same time I reckon you can get long time and a GFE for 500 from some of the older or even staler looking working girls. I would easily go for this option myself because the super pretty working girls I am sure are unlikely to give a good GFE as they're much surer of the money anyway. I am not bothered to much about age looks as I can't stand the attitude on the younger and prettier maid-cum-working girls. To be frank I am opposed to prostitution. Thats only because I know it is available for free with just a fraction more work. Although grantedm. More potential hassle / emotional involvement / commitment potential.

I make it clear to any girl who thinks she is going to get a free ride that it's her who should be paying me for what I bring to the table over the course of her evening.

[QUOTE=SahinAga;1138809]just use the 141 site. [...] For 700-800 and up.[/QUOTE]So if I read on the 141 site "HK$ 500 Massage+Whole package" or "HK$ 550 Massage+Whole package (80mins)" or "HK$ 650 Massage+Whole package+Special services (90mins)" or "HK$ 400 Massage+Whole package" or "HK$ 480 Massage+Whole package", does that actually mean "not really the whole package"?