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[QUOTE=Questor55]Mortman, sorry if my unfortunate turn of phrase offended you.

We have the lurkers, the questioners, and then the actual contributers.

(You being one of the most helpful.) When it comes to sharing specifics, I prefer to do so with those who do indeed 'contribute'.

That's all.[/QUOTE]

You did not offend me, I just thought about the old adage " let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
If you read back through your own posts carefully, you will see the majority of them are comments and reactions to posts from others and comments about DIA girls with the few remaining ones about historical, cultural and social issues in the Philippines..........very little in the way of personal encounters or useful mongering advice. Enough said, maybe I did get out of bed on the the wrong side in the morning or maybe I am just pissed at not being in the Philippines right now

A well respected senior on this forum just talked me into Cebu. I was thinking of AC and Manila but I am convinced that Cebu would be more my thing. I searched the forum and read lot of reports on the Cebu thread (through not all 4500).

I like to hang out on a nice white sandy beach during the afternoons and at sunset. I like to dive as well. Are there any beautiful beaches and dive spots close to Cebu city, not too far from the nightlife? I saw several reports that I may have to go north or south for 4 hours or so, overnight it and I may have to take my entertainment with me! Is that inference correct?

I looked at some travel sites as well and all of the images of beautiful beaches of "Cebu", when you read the fine print, are actually islands away from Cebu. I would rather rely on you guys than tripadvisor, so please share your thoughts.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]A well respected senior on this forum just talked me into Cebu. I was thinking of AC and Manila but I am convinced that Cebu would be more my thing. I searched the forum and read lot of reports on the Cebu thread (through not all 4500).

I like to hang out on a nice white sandy beach during the afternoons and at sunset. I like to dive as well. Are there any beautiful beaches and dive spots close to Cebu city, not too far from the nightlife? I saw several reports that I may have to go north or south for 4 hours or so, overnight it and I may have to take my entertainment with me! Is that inference correct?

I looked at some travel sites as well and all of the images of beautiful beaches of "Cebu", when you read the fine print, are actually islands away from Cebu. I would rather rely on you guys than tripadvisor, so please share your thoughts.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Yes I'm afraid Cebu is essentially a large, poor industrial city. It's not nearly as crowded and hectic as Manila but has similar advantages in terms of a large pool of "open minded" and willing young ladies and a tolerable (though not great, bar scene.) The beach areas of Cebu itself are around 15kms from Cebu City in Mactan near the airport, but the beaches here are frankly underwhelming and there are plenty of mud flats. From a nightlife perspective Mactan isn't so hot. There are plenty of Big hotels out there close to the airport, and lots of guys have condos/retirement places out there. There is a sizeable population in nearby Lapu Lapu, but by and large many of the "naughty" girls head to the City so that LL girls tend to be rather more provincial/conservative in attitude (except for those lured out there as live in GFs of ex pats etc.)

As well as being a city Cebu is the name of the long thin island the City is roughly centred on. The best Cebu beaches are 4ish + hours north or south often on minor off shore islands such as Bantayan or Malapascua in the north. These places have relatively small populations of often quite conservative girls (again with ex pat GFs the exception) , so are BYO babe places. Many girls from Cebu will be delighted to take a free holiday there with you.

Other options are Bohol a largish island to the south which you can reach by ferry with good sandy beaches but again a relatively conservative population, Negros the island to the East where people like to hang out in Dumaguete a seaside town (not good itself for beaches but with some nice resorts out of town and top quality diving on say Apu island a few hours away.) You can find girls in Dumaguete but the large ex pat population makes the supply/demand situation much less favourable than Cebu. Another option is to fly to Palawan from Cebu or Manila which IMHO has the best beaches/islands/seascapes in the Phils. Again "open minded" girls are not so common out there. Though having said that once you have a few contacts its fine. (I generally stay with 2 or 3 girls out there).

What your best strategy is depends on how long you plan to stay and what your priorities are. If you just have a few days, probably best to give up on the beaches and stay in cebu city and enjoy the nightlife and louging around a pool. If you have longer to spend and enjoy the beach lifestyle and are looking for GFE rather than an unlimited number of pussies, then hit the dating sites, line up a few hot prospects and plan to interview a few in Cebu before taking the winner(s) off with you to one of the beach areas I've mentioned.

[quote=vitrea]a well respected senior on this forum just talked me into cebu. i was thinking of ac and manila but i am convinced that cebu would be more my thing. i searched the forum and read lot of reports on the cebu thread (through not all 4500).

i like to hang out on a nice white sandy beach during the afternoons and at sunset. i like to dive as well. are there any beautiful beaches and dive spots close to cebu city, not too far from the nightlife? i saw several reports that i may have to go north or south for 4 hours or so, overnight it and i may have to take my entertainment with me! is that inference correct?

i looked at some travel sites as well and all of the images of beautiful beaches of "cebu", when you read the fine print, are actually islands away from cebu. i would rather rely on you guys than tripadvisor, so please share your thoughts.

thank you.[/quote]on 11/1/10 my first pi trip began. one week in ac, 3 nights in sabang, and 5 nights in cebu. after 2 nights in cebu i was ready to get back to ac. in cebu i went to the mango area bars, vikings, eric the red, red lips and papillon, and i was having a difficult time w/ the ladies. they are more beautiful than anywhere i had been but they were obviously playing me for lds. after 2 nights in a row, i changed plans and high tailed it to ac. what i am getting to is the trip from ac to sabang i/e bus and ferry (4 hrs.) wasn't that bad and sabang was really nice. a small quaint seaside town w/ narrow streets and alleys full of island life. you can rent a boat for probably 500p for half a day and go to any number of nice beaches rep001tered all over the place. and the best thing is they have a go go bar scene there. the girls are decent looking some real nice, and they gave me better service than anywhere else i had been to in pi. i stayed at mermaids hotels a block away from where the ferry lands, and it was awesome. i would definitely go back there. it is more of a diving location than a mongering location which gives it a resort feel. there are about 5 bars w/ 30 girls in each, these girls would love to go frolicking on the beach, i am fucking sure of that. here are a few sabang girls. attaching photos on this site is a little tricky for me hopefully they are attached.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]A well respected senior on this forum just talked me into Cebu. I was thinking of AC and Manila but I am convinced that Cebu would be more my thing. I searched the forum and read lot of reports on the Cebu thread (through not all 4500).

I like to hang out on a nice white sandy beach during the afternoons and at sunset. I like to dive as well. Are there any beautiful beaches and dive spots close to Cebu city, not too far from the nightlife? I saw several reports that I may have to go north or south for 4 hours or so, overnight it and I may have to take my entertainment with me! Is that inference correct?

I looked at some travel sites as well and all of the images of beautiful beaches of "Cebu", when you read the fine print, are actually islands away from Cebu. I would rather rely on you guys than tripadvisor, so please share your thoughts.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

GL's report on the Cebu beach scene is very accurate. Mactan Island has resorts that cater specifically for divers but the place is not at all picturesque. However there is a small island just off Mactan that is a protected nature sanctuary and apparently the diving and beaches are much better there, though I have never been myself. I do have the number of a local diving instructor who is also willing to act as a P4P guide, PM if you need it and I will try and locate it.
Cebu City has all the willing women you could need in a hundred lifetimes but it is impossible to stay there and be within commutable travelling distance of a picturesque diving resort.
The other option is to consider Moalboal, it is possible to travel from Cebu City to Moalboal in just over two hours depending on how reckless your taxi driver is. Here you have essentially two main resorts, one is aimed at the diving fraternity and the other is for beach lovers. It is a very pretty resort and at least it is not too far from Cebu City should you feel the need to head back for some Cebu City night life. Moalboal however is a definite bring your own place. You can also get a bus there from the South Terminal but it takes about three and a half hours. My taxi fare was 1500 one way after some hard bargaining, many drivers will start the negotiations at about 3000. Another thing, if you go to Moalboal (and I guess the other diving resorts in Cebu are the same with the exception of Mactan) make sure you take enough cash for your trip. There are very few places, including the resort hotels that will accept credit cards and Moalboal itself did not have an ATM that I could find anywhere.

I paid 2000 to Moalboal. I realized I had paid a bit too much because afterwards the driver texted me twice offering to come pick me up and even suggested we could stop wherever I wanted on the way -- for the same fee of 2000.

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[QUOTE=Mortman]SNIP

The other option is to consider Moalboal, it is possible to travel from Cebu City to Moalboal in just over two hours depending on how reckless your taxi driver is. Here you have essentially two main resorts, one is aimed at the diving fraternity and the other is for beach lovers. It is a very pretty resort and at least it is not too far from Cebu City should you feel the need to head back for some Cebu City night life. Moalboal however is a definite bring your own place. You can also get a bus there from the South Terminal but it takes about three and a half hours. My taxi fare was 1500 one way after some hard bargaining, many drivers will start the negotiations at about 3000. [/QUOTE]

GregLondon and Mortman, Thank you for your earnest replies. The information is very helpful.

I have a week in PI. Currently, I am planning on 5 days in Cebu and 2 days in MNL. Probably, i will book a hotel in the Cebu city for two days and see how things turn out. If I am having too much fun, i will stay put and may be dive near the airport. if I find good company, may be go to Moalboal or fly to Bohol. BTW, thank you for the tip on Palawan. I am going to research that right away.

Just to clarify; I have been looking at PI beaches on the list of world's best beaches for as long as I can remember. I think I would regret going across the globe and not seeing at least one world class picture perfect white sand beach.

Last questions: Any towns in Bohol that I can fly into that has world class beaches. How do beaches of Palawan or Bohol compare to say... Boracay?

[QUOTE=Vitrea]GregLondon and Mortman, Thank you for your earnest replies. The information is very helpful.

I have a week in PI. Currently, I am planning on 5 days in Cebu and 2 days in MNL. Probably, i will book a hotel in the Cebu city for two days and see how things turn out. If I am having too much fun, i will stay put and may be dive near the airport. if I find good company, may be go to Moalboal or fly to Bohol. BTW, thank you for the tip on Palawan. I am going to research that right away.

Just to clarify; I have been looking at PI beaches on the list of world's best beaches for as long as I can remember. I think I would regret going across the globe and not seeing at least one world class picture perfect white sand beach.

Last questions: Any towns in Bohol that I can fly into that has world class beaches. How do beaches of Palawan or Bohol compare to say... Boracay?[/QUOTE]

Vitrea

You cannot fly to Bohol, the easiest option for you is to just jump on a ferry or the Supercat, I think the Supercat takes around 2 hours from Cebu and is your quickest mode of transport. I seem to remember Cebu has direct flights to Caticlan which is the nearest airport to Boracay. Just for your information, the main dive resort in Moalboal is very rocky, great for swimming and diving but not for the beach. The beach is about a ten minute trike ride away and is pretty impressive. If you can, avoid at weekends and public holidays, like everywhere else in the Philippines it can get pretty crowded.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Last questions: Any towns in Bohol that I can fly into that has world class beaches.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Cebu Pacific offers air service to Tagbilaran, Bohol but only from Manila so if you find a nice friend there it is doable. Bohol also has some excellent diving!

But it does not sound like you have a lot of time so the resorts on the west side of Mactan should satisfy your craving for sand. You can get a couple of dives in and around Olongo island which has decent diving. Buy a loaf of sliced day old bread from Goldielocks to feed the fish.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]GregLondon and Mortman, Thank you for your earnest replies. The information is very helpful.

I have a week in PI. Currently, I am planning on 5 days in Cebu and 2 days in MNL. Probably, i will book a hotel in the Cebu city for two days and see how things turn out. If I am having too much fun, i will stay put and may be dive near the airport. if I find good company, may be go to Moalboal or fly to Bohol. BTW, thank you for the tip on Palawan. I am going to research that right away.

Just to clarify; I have been looking at PI beaches on the list of world's best beaches for as long as I can remember. I think I would regret going across the globe and not seeing at least one world class picture perfect white sand beach.

Last questions: Any towns in Bohol that I can fly into that has world class beaches. How do beaches of Palawan or Bohol compare to say... Boracay?[/QUOTE]

Boracay has a huge white sand beach which is pretty developed along a 3ish km stretch. It is pretty straight forward big long wide beach but not so charming. The main beaches that one visit in Palawan would be the islands in Honda Bay. For the most part this means island hoping for a day with a boat in which you land on 3 or 4 islands hop around in the sand take a lot of pictures. Most of these islands are only modestly developed with just a few huts selling snacks etc. They are breathtakingly photogenic and the water is generally crystal clear, but they are not "lie on a sunbed under an umbrella and watch guys roar up and down on jetski /windsurf" type places. If thats what you are after go to Boracay.

I have been now 2 nights in Cebu City which is a nice city but not the greatest luck with girls. If course my time is limited and I am looking for wife material. 1st girl I meet at the airport, decent girl, works with IT, very small like 5" but not totally like her face and her english not perfect so did not contact the next day. Was in hotel during day 1 but of course no action with her, quite quiet and shy. 2nd one was from CB, met at the ayala mall here. Cute considering my standards, we ended partying with her and her 18yo cousin she wanted to bring, did not like that idea but accepted it then. If I pay her a few beers and ice teas I wont go broke. We also visited gogo bar at Mango and also Juliana disco which was so packed on saturday night, did not see working girls and could not hear anyones voice there music no loud. Also the mall thing people talk here. I never been hit on any of those. Maybe I should hang around there longer? Like hours? Maybe ayala mall too upscale for this? Not that I am so interested but for the experience. Anyway ended finally fucking this 23y cutie at the hotel. She was also little drunk at 2 am still had to warm her up as she said no and maybe tomorrow but I did not accept that as an answer. In the morning same think finally after lots of kissing she takes off her panties and jumps on me and puts me in, no condom of course was at hand. What the heck it had happened so then fucked her on missionary and doggy, she just said pls dont come inside she not wanna get pregnant. To make sure I come out early and with my hands come on her belly that's it. It was great but can she be gf material if she lets me fuck her on the first date from the mall? The date was actually setup in cherry blossom though. She was little shy, a student, looks like non pro, was hvery shy to go out of hotel alone in the morning as people think she is a hooker she said. Dont know what she wants, she says she like me much and we hold hands, cuddle etc but when I said I finally found her she says it just makes her laugh and said I just found a good friend. Dont know about women.
Maybe I still go to bohol with her dont have anyone else now.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]I have been now 2 nights in Cebu City which is a nice city but not the greatest luck with girls. 2nd one was from CB, met at the ayala mall here. Cute considering my standards, we ended partying with her and her 18yo cousin she wanted to bring, did not like that idea but accepted it then. Anyway ended finally fucking this 23y cutie at the hotel. In the morning same think finally after lots of kissing she takes off her panties and jumps on me and puts me in, no condom of course was at hand. What the heck it had happened so then fucked her on missionary and doggy, she just said pls dont come inside she not wanna get pregnant. To make sure I come out early and with my hands come on her belly that's it. It was great but can she be gf material if she lets me fuck her on the first date from the mall? The date was actually setup in cherry blossom though. She was little shy, a student, looks like non pro, was hvery shy to go out of hotel alone in the morning as people think she is a hooker she said. Dont know what she wants, she says she like me much and we hold hands, cuddle etc but when I said I finally found her she says it just makes her laugh and said I just found a good friend. Dont know about women.
Maybe I still go to bohol with her dont have anyone else now.[/QUOTE]
Pekkakoo, I think you are trying too hard and expecting too much at the get go. Relax and take it easy. Sounds like you had a pretty good time with the 2nd girl. Next time make sure you have some condoms.

Whether you see her again is up to you. Since you do not have a lot of time on this trip, I suggest you stay in Cebu and start hitting the bars at night and the malls during the day. Meanwhile see the 2nd girl again if she is as cute as you say. The sex will get better. If you want more than just a good time, you will have to come back to PI many times to get the lay of the land in order to figure things out, and find the right girl for you. If you want a new car do you just walk into a dealership and write a check? No. you shop around. The same thing applies here. The thing about PI is you can have your cake and eat it too. That is, you can have a blast while you are searching for Miss Right.

As to your question: [QUOTE=Pekkakoo]can she be gf material if she lets me fuck her on the first date from the mall?[/QUOTE]
Well hell man, what did you expect? A virgin? Good luck. I would rather have a girlfriend that enjoys sex and fucked me on the first date than a manipulative broad that calculates when she will give up that pussy. If you prefer the 2nd type of girl then I suggest you stay in the western world where you will find plenty of uptight controllers. PI might not be for you. You might not be ready for PI.

Pekkakoo -- Seems you had a good time and got your rocks off; isn't that what you wanted? But unless you want to have relatives in the Philippines -- nothing wrong with that! -- use some common sense and condoms. You are supposed to be the seasoned, well-traveled monger in this setup. She is a typical,naive Filipina looking for love and romance, but willing to settle for lust and not taking precautions. If you are not careful, she may get preggers and follow you to Rovaniemi!
Remember, these girls live lousy lives and see you as the Prince Charming.

Always ready to help a fellow Finn. I hope you are in the Philippines for recreation and not love. Because if it is the latter, this is not the proper place for recommendations. In fact, I'm not sure whether there is any good place for love advice as far as the Philippines are concerned. But if it is fucking that you are interested in, this is the place.
What is the problem? You wanted to get into her pants and when that happened on a first date, you seem to be confused, surprised that she let you in. You wonder whether she in fact is a good girl and yet seem disappointed that she didn't come all prepared carrying condoms. Something doesn't compute here.
Yours seem to be analogous to a love/lust dilemma many Finns encountered some two decades ago when the Soviet Union began unraveling and it became easier to find a Soviet honey. They would find a devushka through a mail-order site, go to inspect the goods and then wonder how many others had done her previously.
My recommendation: Spend the rest of your time in Cebu in total debauchery. Have a good time and give girls a good time. Don't be a Lutheran; the Philippines are no place for guilt.
Don't expect to find eternal love. That is unlikely to happen for reasons that many other travelers have written about.
But if love happens, regard it as a surprise and a bonus. Even so, you don't have to marry the girl. Nevertheless, be honorable even if you are not totally honest.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]Boracay has a huge white sand beach which is pretty developed along a 3ish km stretch. It is pretty straight forward big long wide beach but not so charming. The main beaches that one visit in Palawan would be the islands in Honda Bay. For the most part this means island hoping for a day with a boat in which you land on 3 or 4 islands hop around in the sand take a lot of pictures. Most of these islands are only modestly developed with just a few huts selling snacks etc. They are breathtakingly photogenic and the water is generally crystal clear, but they are not "lie on a sunbed under an umbrella and watch guys roar up and down on jetski /windsurf" type places. If thats what you are after go to Boracay.[/QUOTE]

IMHO Boracay is over rated and expensive but the cuties know about it and love it and taking them there may mean super browni points...so depends what is more important :D

Maybe look at Malapascua which is not that far from Cebu centre..well it is not a plane ride (is a boat and car ride), some pretty basic accommodation mixed with 1 or 2 nice places. Nice beaches and fun as long as you are with a cutie (BYO recommended)

As others have said Palawan and Camiguin are nice.