Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Nounce;2603998]I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.[/QUOTE]Nounce,

When the travel ban was in effect (when I thought it would be short) I helped out some women out. I thought if money would ever have an effect it would then when the women really needed it and there were very few gringos around. I figured some women would just forget about my being generous the second they got the cash, and some did, and that is what I would expect almost all women to do in a normal situation.

I think the performance went up a little due to the cash, but I think was more out of appreciation than payment. Some women were in really bad shape then. Every woman I paid showed up (one was late by a day) and all but one went bare with me. Looking back on it, what the money did get me was availability and trust / going bare but not really performance. There were two women I never would have met unless I gave them a little money to keep my place waiting.

I will say though the one thing that did have an effect, and that was a play on self-worth with a sugar baby. I had a prospect who was a great girl but lousy in bed, and she hit me up for cash after we first met. She didn't kiss or give BJs and was like "That is gross. I do not do that. " I told her that I was paying for a woman to please me and giving me a BJ and kissing me pleased me and why would I hang around her when she didn't give a shit about pleasing me.

She promised to do better, and the next time I saw her she was great and fucked the shit out of me bare. She didn't do a BJ or DFK but she promised she would try in the future. I gave her up because of better prospects but the one thing that definitely got me better performance was being critical of how a women performed. I am not sure that would work with a ho though.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2604060]Spirit gets a lot of crap and I am sure some of it is deserved. But I've not had issues with them. They are the only direct flight from MCO to MDE, so fly them for that, if not anything else. Otherwise, I have to drive to FLL. Or take American or Copa from MCO through Miami and Panama City, respectively. I don't like changes of plane for such a relatively short flight.[/QUOTE]And that flight one way is $59 to MDE right now. LOL. I looked at the other airlines and could not find a flight from Florida to Colombia that was over $100. I hope whatever is happening stays this way.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2604049]... I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. ...[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by picky. You can think about it as making connections which helps you get both desirable and non desirable friends much faster. It's work if you study their profiles before friend request, but you don't even need to read their profiles to add them so it should be easy. 200 requests is fewer than the friends many have here.

[QUOTE=Belisaj;2604049]Thanks for the tip and agree I should've cast a wider net but how many are you adding and how many have accepted? I think I've added about 200 girls and I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. Seems like a slog and not worth the time and effort when I get more matches and results faster and with less effort through Seeking.[/QUOTE]I think maybe 1/3 accept, more if you put up content and pictures of yourself, something you need to assess yours comfort level with. Also more accept when I am in town, and when we have friends in common. I also get friend requests sometimes from their other friends after I session. The chicas have their networks and refer/review mongers amongst themselves too. So over time it builds. Other have suggested the mansion as a start, though I did not go this route, it's not a bad way to get familiar with the Medellin scene for a relatively affordable price. As I always say, that intel is worth nearly as much as money in this game. I have a separate FB account and often toggle between the two on my phone, without issue this far. I've tried SA in Medellin and though I will not not knock anyone for using it, if the plan is p4 p it's not as good as FB IMHO. If looking for some sort of trophy arrangement perhaps, but good luck with that with a colombiana. I have not found the casa quality or performance to be up to my expectations other than on a couple sessions.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2602802]Hahahhahahahahahaa jesus christ dude, PM me and use the search function on the forum.[/QUOTE]It appears I'm still a peasant here and need to get paid membership first. I'll slide in your DMs once I figure that out hahaa appreciate the follow up.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2602994]Every once in a while there is a post like this from a Greengo like you. For the few that bother to report back it's a big let down and the analysis starts. Save yourself the trouble, RTFF and set you expectations reasonably, plan well, no dar pappaya and ask here for any specific advise after you do all that. If you are in any doubt, read the CTG thread as there was a similar experience from a dubliner who had a crappy experience. Wise up, there is time yet.[/QUOTE]I read that thread you mentioned and haven't cringed as hard as that in the longest time; I'm pretty dumb but that's some next level shit. In terms of planning I'd say, after reading through this forum semi-religiously the past few weeks -- I'm pretty comfortable with my first 10 days for the time being. I think a lot of it is going to be a bit improvised with first time shenanigans but would you have any advice on a multiple day GF type relationship as a first timer in MDE -- or is it better to just be a kid at the candy store and figure out what I want. I'm personally hesitant about the multiday GF thing but I'm mainly using it as a way to get a guide, learn a bit about the city and have someone to go out with at night.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2604192]I think maybe 1/3 accept, more if you put up content and pictures of yourself, something you need to assess yours comfort level with. Also more accept when I am in town, and when we have friends in common. I also get friend requests sometimes from their other friends after I session. The chicas have their networks and refer/review mongers amongst themselves too. So over time it builds. Other have suggested the mansion as a start, though I did not go this route, it's not a bad way to get familiar with the Medellin scene for a relatively affordable price. As I always say, that intel is worth nearly as much as money in this game. I have a separate FB account and often toggle between the two on my phone, without issue this far. I've tried SA in Medellin and though I will not not knock anyone for using it, if the plan is p4 p it's not as good as FB IMHO. If looking for some sort of trophy arrangement perhaps, but good luck with that with a colombiana. I have not found the casa quality or performance to be up to my expectations other than on a couple sessions.[/QUOTE]Lets face and all get real here, at the end of the day we all are basically fucking the same chicas, some right after the next slinging dick while others are a week or month or even a few years later.

Sharing is caring and so basically we all share the girls.

I have seen this played out so many times as I live in Medellin for almost 5 years now. Just one very recent example and I have dozens and dozens of these is my special girl who stayed with me in my apartment for 7 months during the lock down last year, my gawd 7 months with 2 cute sweethearts at my beckon call day or night, well she finally found a gringo guy from Miami early this year, he looks like a cool guy so hats off and hope they are good to each other. Again just one recent example which I see weekly now.

Never forget guys, "she is not your girl rather it's only your turn" and this is so true especially here in Colombia.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=FlagRunner77;2604028]Probably a stupid question (sorry). Are you keeping a separate FB account for chicas? I tried to open a separate profile and it was blocked within minutes. I don't want my family seeing all the chicas who are suddenly becoming my friends![/QUOTE]You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.

You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.

If you are not friends with them. You can message them and they can message you just the same.

I have never understood wy so many of you insist on 'friending' these girls and then spend so much energy trying to work around that when there is zero reson to be friends with them in the 1st place.

Find a girl you like on FB, send her a private message. She will respond or not--they don't care if you are 'friends' or not they care if you pay them a rate that works for them--and that's all figured out in messenger and WhatsAPp not on Facebook timelines and walls.

Friending these girls is pretty stupid IMO and I don't understand how, for years, I seem to be one of very very few people who thinks this way.

Questions to the seasoned, to the expats, the long-terms in Medellin:

* What is late October like in Medellin from October 18 to November 7 range?

** Temperature and seasonal atmosphere?

I've heard the "City of Eternal Spring" mentioned more than once so temperature wise it should be fine, but is it rainy everyday?

** Are there Colombian holidays to consider that really shuts down the city, its women?

Are there national or religious holidays that cripple the city.

** How does Colombia treat Halloween?

I've been in Europe for several Halloweens. If there are expat bar, they push it and the Euros arrive and love a good costume party. Great atmosphere in the cities and it seems to have grown. Any idea how Halloween is regarded in Medellin?

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2604213]You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.

You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.

If you are not friends with them. You can message them and they can message you just the same.

I have never understood wy so many of you insist on 'friending' these girls and then spend so much energy trying to work around that when there is zero reson to be friends with them in the 1st place.

Find a girl you like on FB, send her a private message. She will respond or not--they don't care if you are 'friends' or not they care if you pay them a rate that works for them--and that's all figured out in messenger and WhatsAPp not on Facebook timelines and walls.

Friending these girls is pretty stupid IMO and I don't understand how, for years, I seem to be one of very very few people who thinks this way.[/QUOTE]I've learned that if everyone is going one direction and I'm going the other direction there's a good chance I'm going the wrong way.

If you have to worry that friends, family or your employer will find out you're mongering in Colombia, stay off Facebook and stay out of Colombia, because there will always be a risk your activities will be discovered.

If you're going to use Facebook, you're not really minimizing your exposure by not friending the girls, you're just limiting your options.

If you're just going off of girls reviewed by other mongers, there's no need to add friends, you can just keep sending messages to the same 20 or 30 girls until you get a reply.

However, there are some reasons why you should add the girls. Every reason doesn't apply to everyone.

1. Some accounts are fake, just used to scam money or sell pictures. If you're seeing their daily updates it's pretty easy to figure out which girls are a waste of time.

2. Some girls travel. There's no need to wait 2 hours for a reply when the girl just posted from Panama City.

3. Some girls are impacted by major events, death in the family, sick pet, or showing symptoms of Covid. The day of the funeral probably isn't the best time to ask if she wants to fuck.

4. Some girls have hot friends, hot friends who have never been with a gringo.

5. New girls are turning 18 all the time. It's helpful to know when they celebrated, especially if the girl has been telling you for 7 months that she's 18, but just had a birthday party yesterday.

6. Knowledge is a good thing. If you pay attention you can learn a lot about the girls from what they put on Facebook.

7. When other plans fall through, pop open messenger and you can see who is active. Right now I have 144 friends active. I don't need to hope I can find someone. I know who will receive my message instantly.

8. 1,000 girls are hard to keep track of. My favorite from last trip might have put on 40# since I last saw her. Another one might be pregnant, or with a jealous boyfriend. Every day it takes me about 5 minutes to see who is looking good.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2604213]You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.

You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.

[/QUOTE]I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.

Maybe we have different organizational styles because for me organizing is a big part of finding them and I cannot see how one can do this without "friending" the chicas. I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list. It can be done, I have done it but I have found my chances are better if I am in their friends list. Also I like to avoid the flakey ones that will be no-shows and I need to build a rapport to do this. I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them? Without already having chicas in your friends list to go off of, how does one go about finding them? There are some extremely gorgeous (IMHO) chicas on FB but they were not that easy to find.

This leaves me wonder if I have a different attitude too because to me it is about finding what I think are the hottest of the hottest chicas. I realize tastes can vary but there is a variety of prepagos on FB no matter your tastes. For me the numkber of gorgeos chicas is about 1 out of 50 of the prepagos that I have found on FB and maybe less than that. I have over 2500 "friends" of which maybe 50 are gorgeous. Over the last couple of years, a little bit of time here and there and it has probably taken me a cumulative hours to do this. Now it feeds itself.

By chicas showing up in my "people you may know" and "friend requests" feeds. These are the honeys that are like finding the special eater egg with the prize in it.

Gorgeous women are out there but one has to look for them. It takes time and effort to cultivate a crop of truely gorgeous women, no matter your preferences. I find that a person needs an organized method to do this and for me that has meant have chicas in my friend list who will cause other putas to send me friend requests and to cause other chicas to show up in my "people you may know feed".

It has been also covered here a several times that one should have a FB profile used just for mongering, I have been made aware that this has becaome increasingly difficult and FB has been cracking down more on duplicate profiles (you could not tell that from Lleraldine Gomez who has a least 8 profiles that I have seen).

If a person is unable to start a profile just for nmongering there is a function that can be done to "restrict" even your friends from seeing anything that you do not post as "public" - once you are friends with them you go to there profile andclick on the button that says "friends" then a menu pops up that has "unfollow" "unfriend" and also it says "edit freind list" and when you click on that another menu pops up and one of the choices is "restricted" , click on that and they cannot see anything on your profile that you have not made public (which is what anyone who you are not "friends" with can see).

Another aspect of this "edit friends list" can be found if you go to your FB home page and on the left side is a menu of options, you will see "friends" - click on this and another menu comes up where you find an item called "custom lists" scroll to the bottom and click on "create list" and you can organize lists of friends in any types of lists you want. I have lists for chicas in various places like Cali, Barranquilla, Cuba, etc. And for example I have a list called "Top Chicas" - now when I go to make a post there is a shaded box that shows who my "audience", more times than not by default is says "friends" or maybe even "public" but I can click on that and a box pops up to let me choose my audience, and if I scroll it shows my custom lists, so if I want to anounce that I am going to Medellin but I only want my Top Chicas to know this, that is the audience that I would choose.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604332]I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me.[/QUOTE]I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2604332]I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.

Maybe we have different organizational styles because for me organizing is a big part of finding them and I cannot see how one can do this without "friending" the chicas. I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list. It can be done, I have done it but I have found my chances are better if I am in their friends list. Also I like to avoid the flakey ones that will be no-shows and I need to build a rapport to do this. I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them? Without already having chicas in your friends list to go off of, how does one go about finding them?.[/QUOTE]I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.

Show me where I said anything about waiting until the last minute. You can't, because I didn't. You do realize that you and a girl can send an unlimited amount of messages and private, through messenger for as ong as you want without ever actually 'friending' each other, don't you?

I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list.

I have not noticed this at all. The only reason a chica won't reply is if she thinks you aren't going to pay what she wants.

I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them?

There are a few I have as friends-not many, just ones I have seen already and would see again-that's a very small list-- you can see friends lists from people you aren't friends with. Perhaps you can see more if chicas setting limit who can see their friends to only friends. But, it is rare that a facebook girl does that IMO.

This leaves me wonder if I have a different attitude too because to me it is about finding what I think are the hottest of the hottest chicas.

I think this furthers my style, not yours. Why bother being friends with 200 you just said you don't think are very hot? Why friend average chicas? All I want is the hottest-no need for hundreds of friends when hundreds aren't the hottest!

As far as restricted lists, custom lists, editing friends lists, and 2nd profiles. Seems like a lot of work when all you have to do is just message with them without friending them to accomplish these goals.

Are the ONLY women you find found through 'friends' ?? I doubt it,. Usually its through friends lists of girls you aren't friends with. Ike friends of friends. Maybe you get more girls on your list--but I can't see how / why friending hundreds of chicas in Medellin is anything but wasting time and trying to validate the ego by saying look at all these girls I found! As if that is some college degree needing skill LOL.

Go on facebook. Find 'Medellin Rich' or any of the well known chicas out there--mine their friends lists-click on the ones you like, if they posted recently--check their friends lists--and if you want send them and those friends messages. This isn't very complicated and is often made out to be much more than it really is.

I have been in and out of MDE for almost a decade now. Barely 'friending' any of them. Yet finding more than enough top quality talent to enjoy my time. And rarely do I need or want to message and begin the chat more than a couple of weeks before my next arrival--that's just wasting time.

The one's I am interested in-I send a photo with the view from where I am staying and a note that lets them know I am in MDE and ready. That's all they care about $$.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604340]I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.[/QUOTE]Keep it simple.

Just a quick message. Short and to the point. Get the whatsapp and off of the FB ASAP for more efficient results.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2604340] these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. [/QUOTE]You are just proving my point. You say "I guess they are friends of my friends". At some point you added someone as a friend that led the chica to try to add you. My goal is probably different than the averag monger. I am tring to find the largest number of gorgeous chicas that I can. So I need the largest net that I can have. That means the more chicas I add the more request I will get. The more that will show up in my "people you may know". Many of my contacts to not even have any gringos in their friends lists, those are my favorites.

All the back and forth here in respect to the correlation of performance with price and other variables, somewhat comically overlooks perhaps the most obvious variable. Obvious at least to anyone who has been in long term relationships: Namely: Is the chica On or Off-the pill? If OFF, where is she in her monthly menstrual / estrous cycle?

According to the grounding 2007 research of two University of New Mexico professors (and winner of a tongue-in-cheek Ignoble Science Award), who collected data from a large sample of lapdancers in strip clubs: "While ovulating, and therefore the most fertile strippers made an average of $30 per hour more than menstruating women and $15 per hour more than women elsewhere in their cycles. Women on the pill, who typically don't ovulate, made significantly less than naturally cycling women overall and had no "estrus earning peak. SEE: [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09lapdance.html?smid=em-share[/URL].

Of course, all of the above just helps explain the variation in performance by any one, specific chica--from howling orgasm one day with one client to indifferent performance (or simulated O's) on another day with another monger. The larger debate about performance --I. E. Do you get what you pay for? No doubt will echo on in these pages unresolved /.