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[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]I have been now 2 nights in Cebu City which is a nice city but not the greatest luck with girls. If course my time is limited and I am looking for wife material. 1st girl I meet at the airport, decent girl, works with IT, very small like 5" but not totally like her face and her english not perfect so did not contact the next day. Was in hotel during day 1 but of course no action with her, quite quiet and shy. 2nd one was from CB, met at the ayala mall here. Cute considering my standards, we ended partying with her and her 18yo cousin she wanted to bring, did not like that idea but accepted it then. If I pay her a few beers and ice teas I wont go broke. We also visited gogo bar at Mango and also Juliana disco which was so packed on saturday night, did not see working girls and could not hear anyones voice there music no loud. Also the mall thing people talk here. I never been hit on any of those. Maybe I should hang around there longer? Like hours? Maybe ayala mall too upscale for this? Not that I am so interested but for the experience. Anyway ended finally fucking this 23y cutie at the hotel. She was also little drunk at 2 am still had to warm her up as she said no and maybe tomorrow but I did not accept that as an answer. In the morning same think finally after lots of kissing she takes off her panties and jumps on me and puts me in, no condom of course was at hand. What the heck it had happened so then fucked her on missionary and doggy, she just said pls dont come inside she not wanna get pregnant. To make sure I come out early and with my hands come on her belly that's it. It was great but can she be gf material if she lets me fuck her on the first date from the mall? The date was actually setup in cherry blossom though. She was little shy, a student, looks like non pro, was hvery shy to go out of hotel alone in the morning as people think she is a hooker she said. Dont know what she wants, she says she like me much and we hold hands, cuddle etc but when I said I finally found her she says it just makes her laugh and said I just found a good friend. Dont know about women.
Maybe I still go to bohol with her dont have anyone else now.[/QUOTE]

Glad you made it to Cebu as we discussed many months ago.

A few comments.

I strongly recommend buying some condoms asap. If you bareback you do run some STD risk, but probably more importantly there is a pregnancy risk. Many Phil girls wil see getting preg with a foreigner as a two way bet of marriage or financial support. Even if you come outside her if she emails you 3 months later saying she is pregnant you will not be sure it's not yours given pre cum etc. So if you are the responsible type you may find yourself in a costly dilemma.

Re The Malls

In the upmarket ones like Ayala, SM and to some extent Robinson, there are say 20ish (maybe 5ish in Robinson) girls who are specifically hanging around to pick up Western customers. When guys say that they are being hit on every 30 minutes in the malls, it is mostly these girls they are talking about.

Besides these professional girls there is a much larger class of girls who are either window shopping or going about their business, who like most single women in the Phils, may potentially be interested in you, but to target these you will need one or more of expertise, luck or time, they are by and large not going to approach you and say hi.

Re Julianas. There is not such a clear cut distinction between "working girls" and "normal girls" in the Phils, "Good girls" don't go to Julianas so pretty much all the girls you saw there were either bar girls after the bars close (later on) or semi pro to one degree or another. Of course some of them were with freidns or boyfriends, but for sure many if not most would have been potentially available if the price is right.

If you are struggling to find some decent contacts just PM me and I can give you a bunch of phone numbers orf pretty nice girls.

PS a couple of months ago there was some pretty scurrilous misinformation from a guy who had just broken up with one of the several girls that I had set him up with so I am much more wary of providing contact details now, but I know you to be a sincere guy from previous exchanges so am willing to help if u are struggling.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]Re The Malls

In the upmarket ones like Ayala, SM and to some extent Robinson, there are say 20ish (maybe 5ish in Robinson) girls who are specifically hanging around to pick up Western customers. When guys say that they are being hit on every 30 minutes in the malls, it is mostly these girls they are talking about.

Besides these professional girls there is a much larger class of girls who are either window shopping or going about their business, who like most single women in the Phils, may potentially be interested in you, but to target these you will need one or more of expertise, luck or time, they are by and large not going to approach you and say hi.................................[/QUOTE]I have said before here - don't go into the malls assuming that you will be hit on either right away or even after 2 or 3 hours. I was there last week and I saw a couple of foreign guys who were obviously looking for hook-ups; I mean, it was a bit pathetic in the way they had that "deer in the headlights" look. I assume they are the guys who are in town for 1 or 2 days and so they have to maximise their experience.

I have arrived in Ayala and had 3 or 4 smiles and hellos within 10 mins of arriving. Other days I have spent 3 or 4 hours and had nothing at all. The best times have been when I go to Ayala to have a cup of coffee and sit in a prominent walkway and read my book. If a girl or group of girls sits nearby it is often a good sign, especially if there are many other seats available. Just go with the flow and find something to start a conversation. I am usually in Cebu for 3 or 4 days at a time so I can play it slowly and gather numbers etc. I also can now recognize the professional hustlers and I ignore them.

[quote=socker]on 11/1/10 my first pi trip began. one week in ac, 3 nights in sabang, and 5 nights in cebu. after 2 nights in cebu i was ready to get back to ac. in cebu i went to the mango area bars, vikings, eric the red, red lips and papillon, and i was having a difficult time w/ the ladies. they are more beautiful than anywhere i had been but they were obviously playing me for lds. after 2 nights in a row, i changed plans and high tailed it to ac. what i am getting to is the trip from ac to sabang i/e bus and ferry (4 hrs.) wasn't that bad and sabang was really nice. a small quaint seaside town w/ narrow streets and alleys full of island life. you can rent a boat for probably 500p for half a day and go to any number of nice beaches rep001tered all over the place. and the best thing is they have a go go bar scene there. the girls are decent looking some real nice, and they gave me better service than anywhere else i had been to in pi. i stayed at mermaids hotels a block away from where the ferry lands, and it was awesome. i would definitely go back there. it is more of a diving location than a mongering location which gives it a resort feel. there are about 5 bars w/ 30 girls in each, these girls would love to go frolicking on the beach, i am fucking sure of that. here are a few sabang girls. attaching photos on this site is a little tricky for me hopefully they are attached.[/quote]thank you. this is very useful. if i may ask, when you say you had a difficult time with the ladies is that because they were too expensive or not friendly/not approachable? i should probably know this but sometimes i get lost with abbreviations. what is ld? thx.

LD=Lady Drink. Jackson, time to add it to your Abbreviations list.

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[QUOTE=David_33]LD=Lady Drink. Jackson, time to add it to your Abbreviations list.[/QUOTE]

Thank you.

I ask this because I want to respect the local mongering culture and I do not want to do anything to change the norm: Is buying lady drinks considered an ice-breaker or are you taken for a sucker? In most places I have been to (which is quite a few), I don't mind buying a lady drink if I like the looks and I want to interact with her a bit more before deciding to take her to the room. The girls tend to relax and most times you could get an idea of their attitude. Again, if she says, "hello" and "drink" in the same sentence of-course I will pass. Also, I am not going to pay exorbitant prices for the drinks or buy drinks for her and her whole neighborhood.

So, what is a reasonable price for lady drink in Cebu bars and should I buy them or not?

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Thank you. This is very useful. If I may ask, when you say you had a difficult time with the ladies is that because they were too expensive or not friendly/not approachable? I should probably know this but sometimes I get lost with abbreviations. What is LD? thx.[/QUOTE]I had an easy time in AC and Sabang, I would go out mix it up w/ the ladies I liked, and usually have fun w/ them later. Those ladies looked good and did not play me for drinks. In Cebu, I went to the Mango area bars and I was being played. I would have a real hot babe sit w/ me, tell them what I want, buy her a couple of drinks and then I would say lets go, and she would say she is on the mens and other times just disappear from the room. Gone. This happened to me 2 nights in a row. Now to be perfectly honest I did drink a couple beers too many so I was not on top of my game, but this m. O. Did not hurt me in the other locations I visited. I felt the big city takes a little longer to master and I did not have the time so I cut my stay short in Cebu. When you buy a lady a drink make sure it is not a double LD, and also make sure you ask her before you buy the drink if she is on the mens and that she can be barfined. Then make sure she knows what you want I/e BJ, pics, all night, whatever. Get the questions answered before spending time and money on her. That's what I learned the hard way. I really liked Sabang, those girls really wanted to spend the night w/ me, it was nice there.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Maybe look at Malapascua which is not that far from Cebu centre..well it is not a plane ride (is a boat and car ride), some pretty basic accommodation mixed with 1 or 2 nice places. Nice beaches and fun as long as you are with a cutie (BYO recommended)

As others have said Palawan and Camiguin are nice.[/QUOTE]See Germanboy2 FR on Malapsacua. One for beach hunters.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]So, what is a reasonable price for lady drink in Cebu bars and should I buy them or not?[/QUOTE]
Ladies drinks can vary from 150 (Silver Dollar) to 300 php at the higher end clubs. There is no such thing as double ladies drinks in Cebu fortunately.

What I like to do is tip the girl for her time rather then buy her a drink. Her commission from the drink is measly and many don't care to drink. But some bars do have a policy in place where you have to buy a LD in order for her hang out with you for thirty minutes.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Ladies drinks can vary from 150 (Silver Dollar) to 300 php at the higher end clubs. There is no such thing as double ladies drinks in Cebu fortunately.

What I like to do is tip the girl for her time rather then buy her a drink. Her commission from the drink is measly and many don't care to drink. But some bars do have a policy in place where you have to buy a LD in order for her hang out with you for thirty minutes.[/QUOTE]Actually I never buy LD's either, but then if I go to a bar (and I tend only to go in Thailand where the "shows" are more interesting), I am not interested to "chat" with the girls as they don't seem that interesting.

Mattrick's strategy carried to extreme would of course undermine the bar's pricing model. The bar has to cover its costs and make money somehow, and my impression is that (at least the Western owned bars) generally don't make serious money.

[QUOTE=David_33]LD=Lady Drink. Jackson, time to add it to your Abbreviations list.[/QUOTE]The rates are as quoted in bars, the better looking you are, or the more drinks you are willing to buy, will determine her staying time. I try to get a bit of of fun before buying the drink, if the drink is not gulped down, and the exploring is continuing then I might, buy a second or slip her a tip.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Thank you.

I ask this because I want to respect the local mongering culture and I do not want to do anything to change the norm: Is buying lady drinks considered an ice-breaker or are you taken for a sucker? In most places I have been to (which is quite a few), I don't mind buying a lady drink if I like the looks and I want to interact with her a bit more before deciding to take her to the room. The girls tend to relax and most times you could get an idea of their attitude. Again, if she says, "hello" and "drink" in the same sentence of-course I will pass. Also, I am not going to pay exorbitant prices for the drinks or buy drinks for her and her whole neighborhood.

So, what is a reasonable price for lady drink in Cebu bars and should I buy them or not?[/QUOTE]


If the LD is say 150P she will keep say 50P the bar keep 95P and maybe cost 5p. I would say the best way to look at is an entrance ticket to the bar + having a cutie chat to you and let her fondle you.

If you are potentially looking to BF a girl, I suggest asking her upfront before you LD her whether she is willing to be BFed as maybe 30% of the girls will not be for whatever reason (often the more talkative and hot ones too) eg cherry girl, girls with mens, girls with BFs or some other arrangement lined up. These girls are justthere to generate money through LDs.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]These girls are justthere to generate money through LDs.[/QUOTE]Better known as [highlight]Drink Sluts[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Mattrick]There is no such thing as double ladies drinks in Cebu fortunately.[/QUOTE]There is, kind of, at Red Lips. You can buy the girls a SM Pale at P300 which in theory is supposed to get them to sit twice as long. I never availed myself of this option though.

Went to Sisters tonite 11pm, 20+girl, only 1 japanese customer paying too much. 200 Lady Drinks, 1800 Bar Fine.

Girls were beautiful, but due to the lack of other customers you can't avoid to have at least 4 of them around you, asking for a lady drink, a tip, a balut or a promise to barfine them next day.

Barfined a girl, really passionate in the bar (with two LD). Too much passion, should raise some alarm. The mamasan oushed for LD.

Agreed for 1800BF, house rules, up to the next morning. All the other girls told me "nice fine", "she is very good" and so on.

She turn out to be a runner, just after one (quick) pop.

The excuse was a fight with the mamasan for a problem with the salary. In fact she argued with the mamasan when we exit in a language I wasn't able to understand, but this looked acted and not real, so I guess the mamasan do agree with her on her running away fast.

So, for my personal experience, avoid Sisters (maybe all other bars are similar, don't know).

[QUOTE=Vitrea]So, what is a reasonable price for lady drink in Cebu bars and should I buy them or not?[/QUOTE]Ask for the price when they ask you if you want to buy a LD.

If you call a girl over, you should buy a LD. The bar owner is paying the staff and rent, power and buying the alcohol, so you are paying for the girl's time.

If you go into a bar and four girls come to your table and try to get LD's, then IMHO you do not need to buy LD's, but again if you call her over, or off the stage, you should buy her a LD.

Robb