Bangkok Reports

For the past month (Aug / Sep), I've checked-out the gogo bar scene as much as I could.

My report is that Nana is the place to go for Gogo bars right now. Cowboy would be next in line but really the only place worthwhile there would be Baccara and maybe Crazy House (for the all-nude viewing). And I never made it out to Patpong, but if it's anything like how it was before COVID, then XXX Lounge would probably be the only one I'd visit over there.

Now for Nana, the only gogos worth visiting right now and if I was forced to only choose one gogo to visit, I would visit:

Based on attractive lineups, I would have to go with Rainbow 4 (for the more natural-looking girls).

Based on groping sessions, I would go with Rainbow 5 (for the cosmetic enhancements).

Based on just chilling without being constantly harassed by girls / mamasans, I would go with Butterflies (best open layout for sitting and viewing).

Based on all-around gogo experience, you can't go wrong with Billboard (all-around good).

And if I had to only choose one gogo to visit right now, I would say Rainbow 4. Even though I get quoted Rainbow's barfine as being 1 k baht. Most of the other gogo's barfine that I get quoted is 700 baht. I just find the girl lineup there matches my personal preference.

I don't bother haggling price with the girls even though you definitely could haggle. The initial ST price is always quoted to me as 3 k baht. A Rainbow 4 girl discounted her ST price to me down to 2 k without any haggling, and I couldn't say no to that bargain. She was super young and fit with no tattoos. And her service was great.

And most of these girls that I barfined exchanged their Line info with me. But it's becoming somewhat annoying to receive random Line startup conversations from these girls trying to arrange meetings. My guess is this is the case because most of these girls no longer have a steady stream of customers.

But overall, I would say you can find a fun experience at these mentioned gogos. Their lineups are all good. You can grope these girls at all these venues and have your own personal lap dance for the price of a lady drink. When sitting at these gogos nowadays, the ratio of girls to customers is at least 20 to 1 if not higher. The after-barfine service will obviously be YMMV. So I can't comment for others on their experiences. Only that my experiences have been overall good with the worst cases being average.

And even though the prices / barfines haven't been formally lowered, I think that the gogos at Nana are still worth visiting.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2482371]Regardless what is sexually appealing for a female in or out of the P4P business, I'm pretty sure the whole idea of P4P from the beginning was to cater to men who were not already getting plenty of free pussy from hot young girls..............[/QUOTE]I doubt that. The first P4P probably went like this: caveman walking with club on one shoulder, dead rabbit on the other and erect penis protruding through his loin wrap. Hungry woman looking on says to him: "I'll give you sex for half of that rabbit".

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2482679]While I still don't subscribe to your belief that good looking girls avoid good looking men because they either fear rejection or they will disappoint him with their service and while I don't see any evidence of this where I play I have to admit I have no experience with how it works online. I agree here its possible good looking girls while browsing through profiles with pics pass on good looking guys for the reasons you mention but how is then as a good looking guy you seem to have no end of good looking young girls lining up to spend time with you. Not doubting you ET just curious.[/QUOTE]Franciscass, you're responding to my observations about what one might conclude is the reason a girl in a go-go bar, a club, Thermae, online, etc chooses one customer over the other as though I'd announced the results of a decades long scientic experiment with only one possible conclusion and interpretation. LOL. I was merely pointing out what I consider a rather obvious bit of human behavior that can exist in the P4P world as much as it exists in the normal dating world; some girls will feel intimidated about approaching or responding to the attentions of a better looking man, don't feel comfortable about dealing with possible rejection for "not measuring up" to what she thinks he is used to and will instead prefer to choose easier prey instead.

That was my response to what had seemed to be the prevailing take here that hotter looking hookers will ignore one customer in favor of another based on what they find sexually attractive. As though, for instance, the reason better looking girls in Thermae and some go-go bars that only focus on approaching or responding to Asian customers are more sexually attracted to the fat and/or old Asian dudes I certainly see them responding well and enthusiastically to rather than a younger, fitter customer of any race.

On the issue of me supposedly having "no end of good looking young girls lining up to spend time with me", I think you might have missed or forgotten the part about all the "No" responses I get to what I consider minimal sexual activity to justify paying anything at all, the extra effort I put into finding good girls for me, my admissions that finding a good one (for me) is like finding a diamond in the rough and that I do not even bother with trying to score the top tier best looking girls in a venue but much prefer the second tier girls instead.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2482761]I doubt that. The first P4P probably went like this: caveman walking with club on one shoulder, dead rabbit on the other and erect penis protruding through his loin wrap. Hungry woman looking on says to him: "I'll give you sex for half of that rabbit".[/QUOTE]Ah, then you subscribe to the philosophy that all women are hookers.

Be prepared to get a stern talking to about that from Franciscass 😁

But to apply my possible alternative take on that example of P4P, if she was a particularly good looking female among other females and saw 10 men with rabbits, she might reasonably conclude she could get the whole rabbit from the uglier guys and with less risk of being refused.

My hotwife want to experience real fun in Bangkok / Phuket / Pattaya. Can you name any massage parlour which provide quality full service for woman (by man)? Or any male escort service (not gay) in reasonable price? She desperately wants a naughty hotwife experience in Thailand. Please help me with information.

This is the truth of most our lives isn't it? Do that many people do their jobs because they love the work? They take the job that they can get, that pays the highest, and that they can stomach. I sure as shit would rather be doing a lot other things that are either rewarding work wise or personally, but instead I work at the bank since I get the most money and nearly 7 weeks of holiday. But just like the girls if you were to staff my office with a bunch of hotties verse a bunch of american girls I would sure as shit be happier.

[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2482584]I'm sure its interesting to discuss whether the P4 P girls care what you look like, and yeah you'll absolutely get better service if you're attractive.

But lets not make any question of the real deal: they care about who they can extract the most money from more than anything. Don't kid yourself. They want the guy who is going to shower them in cash far more than anything else going on, looks or whatever. Is a girl happy to please some old fat guy? No, but she likes money, sure she'd rather get the money from a hot stud, but those aren't really her clients. But no matter what you look like or how you act, all problems can be solved with baht. Often not even too much of it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2482761]I doubt that. The first P4P probably went like this: caveman walking with club on one shoulder, dead rabbit on the other and erect penis protruding through his loin wrap. Hungry woman looking on says to him: "I'll give you sex for half of that rabbit".[/QUOTE]Yes possible but he might have a problem if if he is a 6 foot handsome well groomed fit troglodyte with the latest fashionable branded loin cloth and matching club in which case fearing rejection and disappointing him back in the cave she will opt for his Barney Rubble lookalike sidekick.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2482872]Franciscass, you're responding to my observations about what one might conclude is the reason a girl in a go-go bar, a club, Thermae, online, etc chooses one customer over the other as though I'd announced the results of a decades long scientic experiment with only one possible conclusion and interpretation. LOL. I was merely pointing out what I consider a rather obvious bit of human behavior that can exist in the P4P world as much as it exists in the normal dating world; some girls will feel intimidated about approaching or responding to the attentions of a better looking man, don't feel comfortable about dealing with possible rejection for "not measuring up" to what she thinks he is used to and will instead prefer to choose easier prey instead.

That was my response to what had seemed to be the prevailing take here that hotter looking hookers will ignore one customer in favor of another based on what they find sexually attractive. As though, for instance, the reason better looking girls in Thermae and some go-go bars that only focus on approaching or responding to Asian customers are more sexually attracted to the fat and/or old Asian dudes I certainly see them responding well and enthusiastically to rather than a younger, fitter customer of any race.

On the issue of me supposedly having "no end of good looking young girls lining up to spend time with me", I think you might have missed or forgotten the part about all the "No" responses I get to what I consider minimal sexual activity to justify paying anything at all, the extra effort I put into finding good girls for me, my admissions that finding a good one (for me) is like finding a diamond in the rough and that I do not even bother with trying to score the top tier best looking girls in a venue but much prefer the second tier girls instead.[/QUOTE]I've noticed you seem to have modified your position from I what I previously understood you to say was the norm to now being a more vague "some girls" do. There are no absolutes in the universe and there will always be exceptions.

Keeping it simple though you believe P4P girls where they have choice will avoid good looking guys in favor of less attractive guys because they fear rejection or not being good enough in the sack. Not for the first time ET we will just have to agree to disagree.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2482874]Ah, then you subscribe to the philosophy that all women are hookers.[/QUOTE]And all men are consumers.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2483002]And all men are consumers.[/QUOTE]All men are mongers.

[QUOTE=TChizzle;2482728]For the past month (Aug / Sep), I've checked-out the gogo bar scene as much as I could.

My report is that Nana is the place to go for Gogo bars right now. Cowboy would be next in line but really the only place worthwhile there would be Baccara and maybe Crazy House (for the all-nude viewing). And I never made it out to Patpong, but if it's anything like how it was before COVID, then XXX Lounge would probably be the only one I'd visit over there.

Now for Nana, the only gogos worth visiting right now and if I was forced to only choose one gogo to visit, I would visit:

Based on attractive lineups, I would have to go with Rainbow 4 (for the more natural-looking girls).

Based on groping sessions, I would go with Rainbow 5 (for the cosmetic enhancements).

Based on just chilling without being constantly harassed by girls / mamasans, I would go with Butterflies (best open layout for sitting and viewing).

Based on all-around gogo experience, you can't go wrong with Billboard (all-around good).

And if I had to only choose one gogo to visit right now, I would say Rainbow 4. Even though I get quoted Rainbow's barfine as being 1 k baht. Most of the other gogo's barfine that I get quoted is 700 baht. I just find the girl lineup there matches my personal preference.

I don't bother haggling price with the girls even though you definitely could haggle. The initial ST price is always quoted to me as 3 k baht. A Rainbow 4 girl discounted her ST price to me down to 2 k without any haggling, and I couldn't say no to that bargain. She was super young and fit with no tattoos. And her service was great.

And most of these girls that I barfined exchanged their Line info with me. But it's becoming somewhat annoying to receive random Line startup conversations from these girls trying to arrange meetings. My guess is this is the case because most of these girls no longer have a steady stream of customers.

But overall, I would say you can find a fun experience at these mentioned gogos. Their lineups are all good. You can grope these girls at all these venues and have your own personal lap dance for the price of a lady drink. When sitting at these gogos nowadays, the ratio of girls to customers is at least 20 to 1 if not higher. The after-barfine service will obviously be YMMV. So I can't comment for others on their experiences. Only that my experiences have been overall good with the worst cases being average.

And even though the prices / barfines haven't been formally lowered, I think that the gogos at Nana are still worth visiting.[/QUOTE]Excellent report! I think bars like Butterflies insist on 2 lady drinks whereas I don't believe Rainbow 4 does so there's not much of a price difference between 800+2 lady drinks and 1000+1 lady drink.

I remember thinking Rainbow 4 was overrated last time I went there with bleached hair and too much make-up covering up some fairly hardened looking women but that was a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2483052]All men are mongers.[/QUOTE]All men pursue money, power and / or recognition in order to have sex.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2482915]Yes possible but he might have a problem if if he is a 6 foot handsome well groomed fit troglodyte with the latest fashionable branded loin cloth and matching club in which case fearing rejection and disappointing him back in the cave she will opt for his Barney Rubble lookalike sidekick.[/QUOTE]Yep, in some cases, but certainly not all, if her judgement is correct that he is attractive enough to get all the rabbit-free sex he wants from cave girls at least as hot as her, she might very well discover soon enough that the only sure thing half rabbit in her future is the one in Barney's hand, not his. Live and learn.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2483105]Yep, in some cases, but certainly not all, if her judgement is correct that he is attractive enough to get all the rabbit-free sex he wants from cave girls at least as hot as her, she might very well discover soon enough that the only sure thing half rabbit in her future is the one in Barney's hand, not his. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]Plus she could be vegetarian and doesn't eat rabbit.

[QUOTE=DrBrianJones;2483091]All men pursue money, power and / or recognition in order to have sex.[/QUOTE]And why you should also strive to keep yourself fit and in shape.