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One year out of Thai- no biggie.
Watch Korean boy livestream party with pretty Thai girls makes me realize how much I miss Bangkok.
The guy is in a Real Club with a live musical Band.
He has darn good taste in Thai Girls.
Un freaking Real.
The girls are Pretty and not Camera shy.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547405]I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on the wall.
Superstar male Asian s. I do see them all the time.
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am just happy to be able to fuck them for a few dollars. The rest I don't care about. Doesn't concern me one bit.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547405]I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on the wall.
Superstar male Asian s. I do see them all the time.
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.[/QUOTE]You know what I often see posted by Thai girls on their Line Timelines? Posters and pics of money. Stacks of it. Fanned out on tables covered with it.
They won't get that from hot young boys used to getting younger and better looking girls than they are for free.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547251]Go to tube of you. Use search function. I gave title of his video.
Use the sentence with word Chalao in function.
You will not be disappointed. That girl gets prettier every time I look.[/QUOTE]I'm not really impressed seems like my usual type of pick ups in Pattaya here is a pic of a 1000 baht beach road pickup pre covid.
BTW the channel is Puchai tv, included are a few other 1000 baht girls I picked up over the years.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2547637]You know what I often see posted by Thai girls on their Line Timelines? Posters and pics of money. Stacks of it. Fanned out on tables covered with it.
They won't get that from hot young boys used to getting younger and better looking girls than they are for free.[/QUOTE]What you say is kinda true, but the truth is unless you are a movie star or a model most young boys will be paying for it, most young boys in modern society are beta males who have been beaten down by women that they lost the ability to get it for free. So unless you are a 70 yr old billionaire, the money you will be using to compete for Thai girls will be the same level of money a 25 yr old has, this is evidenced by all the weekend millionaires walking about pre covid.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547178]People want my example of what a Smoking hot Thai barfine looks like.
Check out this Koreans guys catch, maybe Soi 6. In Pattaya though.
Pattaya local Chalao game to get beauty to work early.
On the tube of you.
I'd say 9 out of ten of us would say she is 3,000 baht quality.[/QUOTE]The girl in this video?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2K-OSNFkSU[/URL]
I am not Korean Superstar. But maybe I am a shining Star.
Doubt if these Thai girls have posters of guys like me pinned on their walls.
Watched the YouTube video "Pattaya Local Chalao Game to Get Beauty to Work Early."
What's the commotion all about?
The cute Thai chick with short hair?
Is she worth 3000 baht quality?
Hell if I know? Monkeypaw smashes that ass for just 1300 repeatedly.
Nope, not a Korean Superstar, just a mere Monkeypaw.
If people want some help with identifying hot Thai girls, no need to dial 611 for Customer Service on your phone. Who you going to call?
If there's something strange, in your hotel room.
Who you going to call?
Ho-buster!
If there's a teddy bear, and all it do is stare.
Who you going to call?
Ho-buster!
If there's a blinking light, and it flashes twice.
Who you going to call?
Ho-buster!
I ain't afraid o' no ho.
I ain't afraid o' no ho.
Who ya going to call?
Ho-buster!
If you're all alone, pick up the damn phone.
And call- The Ho-buster!
P.S. I have a gift for seeming to get really lucky with finding gems (even on Beach Road rare as that is). Who else can say they paid less than 60 baht for 5 meals? Hate to say I told you sold. The Unicorn in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2547637]You know what I often see posted by Thai girls on their Line Timelines? Posters and pics of money. Stacks of it. Fanned out on tables covered with it.
They won't get that from hot young boys used to getting younger and better looking girls than they are for free.[/QUOTE]During the heyday of the nana Plaza Rainbows I used to see youngish guys spending like there's no tomorrow.
How has it come to the thinking young guys don't have money?
It's absurd.
Old guys come into a Rainbow rarely if not Never have I seen an older Guy make it Rain.
I know as I aged the less desire I had to spend non-chalantly.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547357]If I was planning to fuck the same chick that many times I would just get a normal chick that I did not have to pay.[/QUOTE]40 years ago my elderly next door neighbor said to me "it's easy to be young". Now that I am not, the chick that I could attract that I did not have to pay would probably have zero appeal. I'll take the paid arrangement and enjoy the carnal delights.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2547714]40 years ago my elderly next door neighbor said to me "it's easy to be young". Now that I am not, the chick that I could attract that I did not have to pay would probably have zero appeal. I'll take the paid arrangement and enjoy the carnal delights.[/QUOTE]I do not mind paid arrangements, but I am a variety kind of guy. I am not about to pay the noodle stand monthly so that I can go by everyday and get the same chicken and noodles. Hell, even if it was free I would not want to eat those same noodles all the time. That is why with hookers I prefer to pay as I go as I would a hotel, instead of investing in the time-share or long-term lease plan.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547405]I've still yet to see a Thai girls room with posters of old Farangs on
Same with FB. Girls just don't post photos of old men on their feeds.
Request for you tube hot Bargirl Barfined by Korean. Maybe links not allowed here. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I see ladies posting old guys on their Facebook. It's a way of showing off that they have money. What they don't show is their Thai boyfriend, unless they stop working.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547357]If I was planning to fuck the same chick that many times I would just get a normal chick that I did not have to pay.[/QUOTE]Good luck finding a normal chick in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2547761]Good luck finding a normal chick in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547764]No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.[/QUOTE]If you broaden your horizon outside the typical mongering places, I can attest that indeed there are normal girls around just like in any other city on the planet. Big industrial areas right outside Pattaya with tons of women working in addition to the teachers and nurses etc locally. Many looking for foreign boyfriends actually. Challenge is to change the search mindset away from the typical monger approach to address that market.
However, depending on what you are looking for, you need luck. If you are 60 and look for 20 yr 9 or 10 who fucks your brains out for free, indeed need luck, quite a bit actually.
But if you are 50+ and OK with decent 30-40 yr old 7, things start to change. Then again you need a bit of luck to come across one that performs reasonably well. Or maybe just my experience that quite a few normal ones do not perform well. But some are firecrackers. Just like in any other country.
And if you are after longer term, need a bit of luck to find that actually ends up lower per pop cost than a pro (as many tend to have expectation that farang BF will take care lady.).
Dealing with hookers is simple, but once you step to normal world, you get involved with the normal world complications of emotions, expectations, cultural issues, etc etc. I have one normal ongoing again after dumping the previous that could not resist friednds and somtam, and maybe need to call off her as well as her expectations are getting too serious. Need to be careful what you ask for.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547658]During the heyday of the nana Plaza Rainbows I used to see youngish guys spending like there's no tomorrow.
How has it come to the thinking young guys don't have money?
It's absurd.
Old guys come into a Rainbow rarely if not Never have I seen an older Guy make it Rain.
I know as I aged the less desire I had to spend non-chalantly.[/QUOTE]I don't generally see youngish guys walking out of clubs, go-go bars, in or out of hotels with hotter girls than most old dudes can also be seen going with. I have seen the youngish guys throwing money around in the bars too. And then walking out alone.
Maybe they meet the girls after hours. But then they'd be getting sloppy seconds or thirds after the old dudes barfined them out for STs earlier in the evening.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547730]I do not mind paid arrangements, but I am a variety kind of guy. I am not about to pay the noodle stand monthly so that I can go by everyday and get the same chicken and noodles. Hell, even if it was free I would not want to eat those same noodles all the time. That is why with hookers I prefer to pay as I go as I would a hotel, instead of investing in the time-share or long-term lease plan.[/QUOTE]I think in the case of the kind of "pay weekly and after" arrangements some of us have mentioned here the analogy would be you already finding yourself interested in cycling back to the same noodle stand right outside your door at least 2-3 times per week anyway. And then their promotional offer to you is to eat there as much as you want anytime this week, the next week, the week after that and so on until you don't like the food there anymore but only pay them the equivalent cost of two and a half bowls of noodles at the end of each week until that time finally arrives.
That time might arrive as soon as the end of next week, in which case you came out ahead on the Money For Food Value From That Stand ratio. But if it turns out that time doesn't arrive for a month or two, well then you came out WAY ahead on the Money For Food Value From That Stand.
Either way you're only going to pay for those two and a half bowls per week at the end of the week after you have eaten god knows how much food from that stand. And the first week you don't eat at least two and a half bowls worth out of boredom or because they went out of business is the week you stop paying.
It really is hard to see the customer losing much with the potential of gaining plenty in that kind of promotional offer as long as he liked the food from there enough to repeat 2-3 times per week to begin with.
Hmm.. I'm not so interested in noodles so I probably should have used an American style breakfast, chocolate chip cookies or something else I do seek out at least 2-3 times per week in my analogy.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2547652]The girl in this video?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2K-OSNFkSU[/URL]
I am not Korean Superstar. But maybe I am a shining Star.
Doubt if these Thai girls have posters of guys like me pinned on their walls.
Watched the YouTube video "Pattaya Local Chalao Game to Get Beauty to Work Early."
What's the commotion all about?
The cute Thai chick with short hair?
Is she worth 3000 baht quality?[/QUOTE]That's the one. Good job.
You got to agree the girl runs Rings around the normal Soi 6 girl.
I like her.
As I type this the guy is Livestream ING right now.
Very little English. Check him out if you Miss Thailand.
Damn bro, post of the year!
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2547652]The girl in this video?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2K-OSNFkSU[/URL]
I am not Korean Superstar. But maybe I am a shining Star.
Doubt if these Thai girls have posters of guys like me pinned on their walls.
Watched the YouTube video "Pattaya Local Chalao Game to Get Beauty to Work Early."
What's the commotion all about?
The cute Thai chick with short hair?
Is she worth 3000 baht quality?.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547424]One year out of Thai- no biggie.
Watch Korean boy livestream party with pretty Thai girls makes me realize how much I miss Bangkok.
The guy is in a Real Club with a live musical Band.
He has darn good taste in Thai Girls.
Un freaking Real.
The girls are Pretty and not Camera shy.[/QUOTE]Haha, thanks for that. Got hooked and watched a few. Fortunately, I understand most of what he's saying. But don't understand the 1 HR for 10듬. Not sure what price he means by that at the club.
Thanks for actually posting a url MP. I just don't understand some posters who beat around the bush and don't post the url instead writing in code for us to try to figure out the url. Homie got no time for that.
Thought that was my Mook from Soi 6 at first but it isn't unless Mook got some more plastic surgery. Very similar though.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2547927]Haha, thanks for that. Got hooked and watched a few. Fortunately, I understand most of what he's saying. But don't understand the 1 HR for 10듬. Not sure what price he means by that at the club.[/QUOTE]Next stop- his livestream s.
You won't be disappointed.
Way better than that Chalao'd video.
Trust me.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2547761]Good luck finding a normal chick in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Never said its not possible, but just not possible for me.
1) the longest time (at one time) I've stayed in Thailand is about a month. So maybe not enough time overall to explore.
2) language is also a big deterrent. I don't speak Thai and so makes communication difficult.
3) I've tried to find normal girls but never had any real success.
So, for my limited time in LOS, I've mainly gone back to the mongering P4 P route. Yes, more expensive way to go but at least its more (or less) guaranteed to get some relief. Also, the quickie way means no baggage and less drama and no attachment.
From my experiences only.
Cheers.
For those of you who are not into Pretty young Thai girls I've found a Gem for you.
On that famous channel. Search Miss Jira Thailand. Not a Batgirl. But entertaining to say the least.
I don't watch her content I just comment. She really has a pleased personality.
I don't know how to do linking on my mobile.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547966]For those of you who are not into Pretty young Thai girls I've found a Gem for you.
On that famous channel. Search Miss Jira Thailand. Not a Batgirl. But entertaining to say the least.
I don't watch her content I just comment. She really has a pleased personality.
I don't know how to do linking on my mobile.[/QUOTE]This is her channel. I watch her from time to time.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3D0W0xfwxSs3XFvZtxFA-g[/URL]
I like her video called Birthday's dance with my friends. She's a bit older than most guys here like. I find her very attractive.
To my amazement those soi 6 livestream can be quite entertaining.
A darker skin Beam, not at all bad looking, when she preens the right way you can almost see her Nipples. LOL. That Bra to breast ratio thing.
Not as vulgar as Monkey Man photos but those streams are not that.
Sad thing is no walk traffic at all up and down the Soi.
I assume she has / had a German Farang in her life since she can speak German.
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2547966]I don't know how to do linking on my mobile.[/QUOTE]
I can't believe I have to explain this. There's an arrow and the word share on Youtube. Click on the arrow. Click Copy link. Post copied link on your ISG thread. Go back in the thread and make sure the link works.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2548238]I can't believe I have to explain this. There's an arrow and the word share on Youtube. Click on the arrow. Click Copy link. Post copied link on your ISG thread. Go back in the thread and make sure the link works.[/QUOTE]Too much work. It's easier to do on a computer. He provided sufficient info to look it up on youtube anyways.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2548238]I assume she has / had a German Farang in her life since she can speak German.[/QUOTE]Will look into it. I'm not by any means an expert on computer usage.
Took me awhile before I even knew how to copy and paste.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2548255]Too much work. It's easier to do on a computer. He provided sufficient info to look it up on youtube anyways.[/QUOTE]Too much work? Takes 5 seconds max.
Can't see how it's better that the original OP doesn't post the url but writes a cryptic message of where a person may find the video is better. Now every person who may be interested in viewing the video needs to spend time searching for it because you are too lazy to spend 5 seconds copying the link of the web site you are already on.
It's a pretty girl Pattaya in a video, hold onto your undies. If you not interested move on.
So my ace king got booted by a ace jack in a poker tournament.
Hop on to the Channel. Miss Jira is driving and livestream today. Today she look extra Pretty.
She on her way to buy coffee. I write don't drive and livestream. Man the haters, her Fans will fight for her honor. Hahaha.
Shortly after she runs over something and abruptly ends the stream.
Hope she ran over a Cat.
During the whole 2 minutes you can see her eyes going back and forth. Road then monitor then Road. Cringeworthy.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2548220]To my amazement those soi 6 livestream can be quite entertaining.
A darker skin Beam, not at all bad looking, when she preens the right way you can almost see her Nipples. LOL. That Bra to breast ratio thing.
Not as vulgar as Monkey Man photos but those streams are not that.
Sad thing is no walk traffic at all up and down the Soi.[/QUOTE]Streaming may slowly kill Soi 6. Internet has unlimited amount of cucks and simps. Before streaming era they had no access to these girls, not it's free and available and they shower girls.
With free money. I have seen some cutest girl from S6 move to onlyfans and streaming services, for many of them it's enough profit and they can work at home. New generations of men will be mostly 'digital' used to cams, onlyfans and steamingservices. Many of them are young men who will fall for these girls and spent all income as it will only way to get attention and validation from female. With coming 5 G ultrafast internet VR streaming will be possible and it will be even more popular.
[QUOTE=Sharka;2547953]Never said its not possible, but just not possible for me.
1) the longest time (at one time) I've stayed in Thailand is about a month. So maybe not enough time overall to explore.
2) language is also a big deterrent. I don't speak Thai and so makes communication difficult.
3) I've tried to find normal girls but never had any real success.
So, for my limited time in LOS, I've mainly gone back to the mongering P4 P route. Yes, more expensive way to go but at least its more (or less) guaranteed to get some relief. Also, the quickie way means no baggage and less drama and no attachment.
From my experiences only.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Here I should post a warning.
Trying to hook up with a civvie in Pattaya is fraught with danger. The first thing to know that Thai ladies will fuck foreigners even if they have a Thai husband, because it doesn't count. You can be living 24 hours a day with a Thai lady, and not know she has a Thai boyfriend or husband.
In fact, Thai ladies are capable of pulling off the ultímate long con: they live you to death (courtesy of Doctor Who). They hook up with an older foreigner, go to his country to live with periodic trips back to Thailand to see the husband, and then when he dies, go back to Thailand with his lifetime earnings to share with the husband. Most cons aren't that extreme. I once hooked up with a lady who was married, saw on her Facebook that she had a husband, and didn't tell her I knew.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547764]No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.[/QUOTE]I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2548449]I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.[/QUOTE]Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2548461]Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.[/QUOTE]Agree, those posts are appropriate. The forum is about men finding women for sex, no requirement for it to be commercial sex.
I've gotten free sex every trip I've made to Thailand. Met some through ThaiFriendly and ThaiFlirting. Met another at a coffee shop (customer) and another worked at my hotel. For each case my free sex was with women who were looking for a farang husband and wanted to live in a western country. If I find the right woman, I would do exactly that and stop being a punter. So far that hasn't happened. My life as a punter continues.
None of the reports on this forum can be verified. Doesn't matter if they are paid or unpaid.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548471]Agree, those posts are appropriate. The forum is about men finding women for sex, no requirement for it to be commercial sex.
I've gotten free sex every trip I've made to Thailand. Met some through ThaiFriendly and ThaiFlirting. Met another at a coffee shop (customer) and another worked at my hotel. For each case my free sex was with women who were looking for a farang husband and wanted to live in a western country. If I find the right woman, I would do exactly that and stop being a punter. So far that hasn't happened. My life as a punter continues.
None of the reports on this forum can be verified. Doesn't matter if they are paid or unpaid.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in BKK I was fucking hotel receptionist for two weeks every single day and after her I nailed nice office girl two times (who introduced me to their parents on second date) the ultrathin condom broke both times and I almost got her pregnant. Sex was more passionate and relaxed than with working girls. Office girl took me even for some tourists trips, it was nice. I met both girls online got lots of sex and paid 0 baht. Next time I go Thailand besides P2P for sure I will try to squeeze some action from local girls because I enjoy the thrill of hunt for free pussy and it gives full girlfriend experience.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2548461]Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.[/QUOTE]Posting about civilian conquests is apparently allowed, but not at all interesting unless it's about a venue where civilians looking for Farang congregate on a regular basis.
The purpose of this forum is to get useful info about a sex scene, or just a feel for it, not to read countless posts about guys bragging about their exploits which are not accessible to the next guy.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2548255]Too much work. It's easier to do on a computer. He provided sufficient info to look it up on youtube anyways.[/QUOTE]Right internet is the best option for fast easy work.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2548444]Here I should post a warning.
Trying to hook up with a civvie in Pattaya is fraught with danger. [/QUOTE]LOL. Are you really making rocket science out of dating women? You are seriously overthinking this.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2548449]I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.[/QUOTE]Au contraire mon frere. Maybe you missed the purpose of this forum on your rush to enter. But I am here to remind you as others already have. According to the forum owner:
"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. ".
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions#faq_faq_general_questions_01[/URL]
That means on this forum it is appropriate to talk about paid women, free women, old women, young women, white women, black women, underweight women, and overweight women to name a few. There is no limit by the forum owner on the types of women that can be discussed here as long as they are at least 18 and are not male.
Having met in person at least 100 guys from this website in various countries over the last 16 years and remained good friends with some of them, I sure would not be one of the board members with credibility issues. But take your entertainment however you can get it.
I just don't get why some posters make meeting normal women out to be some unrealistic and unbelievable thing. It is the fucking normal and mainstream thing to do.
[QUOTE=Wolvman;2548326]Streaming may slowly kill Soi 6. Internet has unlimited amount of cucks and simps. Before streaming era they had no access to these girls, now it's free and available and they shower girls with free money. I have seen some cutest girls from Soi 6 move to streaming services. For many it's enough profit and they can work at home. New generations of men will be mostly digital, used to cams and streaming services. With coming 5 G ultra-fast internet virtual reality streaming will be possible and it will be even more popular.[/QUOTE]Mr. Wolvman's prediction is interesting, but I am less confident than he is about the Soi 6 experience becoming virtual.
First, the quality of the online product is lousy.
Almost all of the girls are overweight, covered in tattoos and giving off a hard nasty vibe. I realize some guys like that, but I think they're in the minority.
The lack of "talent" isn't the only problem. The live streams have ZERO production values. The aforementioned fatty tattys cluster in front of a phone trying to look hot. It's all PG-rated because they can't get naked in an open-front bar. Guys watch the low-resolution, poorly-lighted feed and send small amounts of money. Compared to all the other online experiences catering to horny guys, the Soi 6 product is in the bottom 25%.
Yes, the technology exists to create a high definition, virtual reality feed. But the bars aren't going to do that because it takes money and technical expertise. If they decided to do that, why not close the bar and build a studio someplace where the rent is 90% less? That's never going to happen because they need to sell drinks. And even if they tried, they would still be working with the same unattractive talent, maybe even LESS attractive girls who'd be willing to work in a remote location without the chance to earn drink commissions.
Second, and more importantly, the online product will never be even 10% as entertaining as experiencing Soi 6 in person. When a guy is there in person, he revels in the POSSIBILITY of the place. The ability to go from one end of the soi to the other knowing he can hook up with any girl he sees is intoxicating. In person, he can see ALL the girls, not just the handful who agree to be on camera. Almost always, he can find somebody he thinks is hot. If he fancies a chinwag, there are instant friends on every stool. Things to eat. The constant parade going by. During his search he'll probably knock back a few drinks -- at which point even the fat chicks start to look good.
Third, when a guy visits Soi 6 he can get as much or as little physical contact as he wants. Actual skin-on-skin touch. Perhaps he wants to retire to the back room with a girl and buy her a drink. There is nothing online that can match curling up on the sofa next to somebody he likes who is at least pretending to be sweet. There is no technology that duplicates the thrill when she sticks her tiny little hand into his pants, or kisses him hard on the mouth. And I'll be long dead by the time virtual reality duplicates the experience of going upstairs for a warm soapy shower and half an hour of heavy breathing.
Remember, the Soi 6 live streams are a desperate effort to make the best of a dire situation -- not their core business. A stopgap. A Hail Mary pass. For the time being, they have some novelty value. But as I noted earlier if you're looking for inspiration while you hang out with Mr. Chuck Wow there is far better stuff available online from people whose core competency is producing porn, not selling drinks.
If you're happy with low resolution crap, the tube and torrent sites are free and numerous. If you prefer higher quality video there is a ton of product out there for every taste at modest fees. Some of the European talent is movie star hot and the video quality is superb. With a broadband connection you can download enough 4K content in a weekend to spank the monkey for months. If you want some individual interaction and you're willing to pay, the cam girls and phone sex girls will take your money.
None of this is to say that Soi 6 doesn't have challenges. Even before the travel bans the talent was fading fast and the prices were climbing. My personal view is that by 2018 or so Pattaya had expanded so fast that the talent was spread too thin and there were too many low quality establishments chasing too few naughty boys. Perhaps COVID will drive out the weak talent and the weak managers, and we'll see a better Pattaya experience when unrestricted travel returns. I sure hope so.
Bunky.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2547764]No luck needed. Even before living in Pattaya I had girlfriends there that were not hookers. Teachers, real estate agents, etc. Even have had chicks that were hookers but I did not need to pay. Hell I have even had chicks that I thought were hookers, but when I gave them money they were confused and said what is this for. Pattaya is like a box of chocolates. You eat whatever you bite in to.[/QUOTE]Possible when she saw the 500 Baht, she said what is this for didn't I mention It was 3000 Baht.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2548449]I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2548461]Guys like me who only pay for sex would shun those posts but they are, in fact, appropriate. I take them with a grain of salt as unlike posts regarding paid sex they cannot be verified.[/QUOTE]I'm against guys who go look for free sex taking advantage of women wanting more than boom boom but if you live here or are on an extended stay it happens even if you're not trying, assuming you are funny and have some charm that is. For some reason these Thai girls just want to hang out. Maybe it's because I will always pay for their food or pay for their drinks when we go to a club on their days off. Then again, there are some guys incapable of picking up girls in their home country or in Thailand.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548562]Having met in person at least 100 guys from this website in various countries over the last 16 years and remained good friends with some of them, I sure would not be one of the board members with credibility issues. But take your entertainment however you can get it.
I just don't get why some posters make meeting normal women out to be some unrealistic and unbelievable thing. It is the fucking normal and mainstream thing to do.[/QUOTE]I've met about 50 ISG guys in the past 10+ years. Pretty certain I'm credible. I have stopped meeting new guys but sometimes it just happens by accident.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548471]None of the reports on this forum can be verified. Doesn't matter if they are paid or unpaid.[/QUOTE]Someone who gets it! Don't believe everything you read on here. You'd be naive to do so.
So I keep watching that Korean boy vid over and over again. Something's just not kosher.
The girl on the stool fronting the road that he drinks with most of the video.
Is not the girl he barfined.
They look similar but not exact. They must be real sisters. Hahaha. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Wolvman;2548326]Streaming may slowly kill Soi 6. Internet has unlimited amount of cucks and simps. Before streaming era they had no access to these girls, not it's free and available and they shower girls.[/QUOTE]I've never looked at anything like Onlyfans, that's simply not my thing. The Soi 6 live videos seem to be failing. Months ago I would see girls smiling and dancing and several people would be watching and occasionally somebody would buy a drink. Now, the girls seem to be more interested in their phones and there might be only 1 to 3 people watching and I haven't seen anybody buy a drink recently. These comments are based on my spot checking of those videos, perhaps a rigorous check would show something different.
Occasionally Suzy Wong in Phuket will sponsor a live video. That is a major upgrade over Soi 6. Girls looking as good as possible. Smiles. Dancing. Interact with online customers. Much better than the Soi 6 equivalent, but still very few drinks purchased. The Suzy Wong video streams are only done occasionally, which probably is a statement regarding the financial success of the concept.
If Soi 6 dies, it won't be due to streaming. Video cannot replace the personal contact of being together with people.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548752]...
If Soi 6 dies, it won't be due to streaming. Video cannot replace the personal contact of being together with people.[/QUOTE]Dunno. They might lose my custom for one because of streaming. I've stood for minutes on end looking at girls while they were at the back of the room clustered in front of a camera. Not one took the trouble to come forward and find out what I wanted. The only girls still paying attention to the street were camera-shy girls. Not all bad-looking but not a selection of soi 6's best either.
I have only been here 3 weeks but during these 3 weeks I've had the feeling Soi 6 has got slightly worse.
Seems the only expats left right now in Pattaya are those who have long been accustomed to being priced out of the Thai sex market. For years now, going to a gogo has meant to those expats no more than having a drink to be allowed to look at girls for twenty minutes.
Hotels are 30% cheaper, foot massage is 30% cheaper, taxis are 50% cheaper, sex is the same price (when it's at all available).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2548539]...The purpose of this forum is to get useful info about a sex scene, or just a feel for it, not to read countless posts about guys bragging about their exploits which are not accessible to the next guy.[/QUOTE]True, I pay for sex all the time, non-pros (girlfriends) probably more. My girlfriends are my business and not that of mongers.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548752]If Soi 6 dies, it won't be due to streaming. Video cannot replace the personal contact of being together with people.[/QUOTE]You might want to take a look at Japan and Korea if you think people need personal contact. The women are in it for the money and if they can get close to the same money by doing something easier then they won't give a fuck about hanging around horny foreigners. How do you think they ended up on Soi 6 anyway? Because it is easier than farmlife. Now if they can just pop in front of a camera anytime they wanted they would have it made even better.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2548655]...I've met about 50 ISG guys in the past 10+ years. ...[/QUOTE]I've met 0 ISG guys in the destinations I've visited and hope to keep it that way. Cannot think of a worse way of spending my time, prefer the company of the local females instead.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548760]You might want to take a look at Japan and Korea if you think people need personal contact. The women are in it for the money and if they can get close to the same money by doing something easier then they won't give a fuck about hanging around horny foreigners. How do you think they ended up on Soi 6 anyway? Because it is easier than farmlife. Now if they can just pop in front of a camera anytime they wanted they would have it made even better.[/QUOTE]Sure, going in front of a video camera is easier for the girls, but how much money will the men spend? I know what I will spend on video, zero. On the other hand, while in kingdom I average 2500-4000 baht per day for girls plus another 5000 baht per day for other things.
[QUOTE=XXL;2548754]Dunno. They might lose my custom for one because of streaming. I've stood for minutes on end looking at girls while they were at the back of the room clustered in front of a camera. Not one took the trouble to come forward and find out what I wanted. The only girls still paying attention to the street were camera-shy girls. Not all bad-looking but not a selection of soi 6's best either.[/QUOTE]They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548769]They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.[/QUOTE]I don't buy drinks at Soi 6, I never did.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548769]They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.[/QUOTE]I am not familiar with ANY form of online sex either use or production, and not attracted by anything of that nature personally.
However, IF there are people who are willing to pay something for such experience (as there appears to be), it has potential to be dramatically better business than anything physical as it can easily be turned into volume business, dollar or even a cent is big if you can reach volume of wankers by single act.
Movie industry a prime example. Not many actors or producers who only give personal shows for the rich of royals that own Bel Air mansions, but many who make shows for five or ten dollar tickets for millions of people.
Then, whether this means Soi 6 will die is another issue, but certainly the online (volume) market will get served as it is much more attarctive financially IF there is volume of customers.
Who knows, maybe physical commercial sex is only for kings or millionaires in future, just like personal theatre performances.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2547807]That's the one. Good job.
You got to agree the girl runs Rings around the normal Soi 6 girl.
I like her.
As I type this the guy is Livestream ING right now.
Very little English. Check him out if you Miss Thailand.[/QUOTE]If you are asking if she is hotter than the normal Soi 6 girl, my question back is "isn't the grass always greener on the other side?" Take the sidewalk next to Treetown. When they first laid the green turf grass couple of weeks ago, Monkeypaw was headed to Tesco and made a comment to them. I said, this sidewalk puddles up after it rains, and it doesn't drain well. But at least the concrete evaporated the puddles faster because of the heat. The Thai locals that had businesses and bars on the same sidewalk looked at me stupidly. This week it rained heavily. I went to the Buakhao market to pick up some vegetables and saw one of the business owners mopping up the water on the turf. I shouted, "told you so." And she looked very happy to see me.
So the morale of the story and to answer your question is "just because it is green and looks like grass, it's all about what's underneath. " Girls that know how to throw in some contacts to make their eyes bigger, extend eye lashes, and do magic with their makeup are the ones who are victorious when it comes to beauty. Look at some of those Facebook videos with the Asian girls doing make up transformations, before and after. At the Gogo bars, they arch their asses and their backs a certain way while dancing to maximize their assets. They know how to suck in that gut and only let customers view their best angles. The top girls will know how to hide their flaws even during sex.
However, the girl in the video has a cute face, kinda witchy, but I am okay with being the Last Witch Hunter. I don't discriminate. I just penetrate and percolate. Sometimes I have a taste for short hair like the girl in question, but most of the time the Paw prefers longer straight black hair on Asian girls. It looks more natural. It looks more Asian. Nothing beats the Gogo bars when you can inspect that body from head to toe. Long legs, long black hair, slender (no baby damage) with natural perky boobs and a nice ass is what I like the most (see Miss Sleepyhead). If she has a Tom and doesn't bang or get barfined and is a challenge, those are the best.
P. S: Oddly enough 612 is also the code for where the Chauvin trial is taking place and streaming live on the internet. That's the only thing I am checking out because I am still in Pattaya, even after 13 months stranded because of border closure. So there is nothing to miss about Thailand when you are still here. I miss Luby's mac and cheese, is what I miss.
How does this work? Say you see a girl on soi 6 and sit with her. Do you grope a bit? Then take her upstairs? Not grope? Not sit down and have a drink yourself?
My experience was if I sat down with a girl I bought her a drink. Is this what most do or not?
[QUOTE=XXL;2548772]I don't buy drinks at Soi 6, I never did.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548769]They are favoring potential cyber customers over flesh and blood customers only 10 meters away? That is very foolish. You might buy several drinks plus boom boom, very few cyber customers will spend that much money.[/QUOTE]But you are letting your western thinking get in the way. When guys have insisted that you can't fuck chicks under whatever amount, I have always called bullshit because the cost of living is low. Look at MP fucking a chick for 1300 that other guys are dying to give 5000 to. This has always been the case and covid has nothing to do with it.
The fact is that these chicks would rather sit in front of a camera for 400 baht than to go upstairs with you for 1000. 400 baht can get them by, although it seems nothing to you. And the guys on the other end of the camera buy them drinks as well, so you have no advantage from that end.
I mean seriously, would you choose to eat an old woman out for $20 versus sitting in front of a cam shooting the shit with your buddies for $8? I would probably choose shooting the shit. It is not only about money.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2548776]How does this work? Say you see a girl on soi 6 and sit with her. Do you grope a bit? Then take her upstairs? Not grope? Not sit down and have a drink yourself?
My experience was if I sat down with a girl I bought her a drink. Is this what most do or not?[/QUOTE]How ever you want it to work. You can grope without buying drinks. You can fuck without buying drinks. You can buy drinks without groping or fucking. Just however you want to do it.
I think most guys feel guilty if they grope or even have a conversation without buying the girls a drink. Fortunately I have no shame so it has never been a problem for me not to buy any drinks but still converse, grope and/or fuck.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548795]But you are letting your western thinking get in the way....
The fact is that these chicks would rather sit in front of a camera for 400 baht than to go upstairs with you for 1000. 400 baht can get them by, although it seems nothing to you.[/QUOTE]Yea, you are probably right. My western thinking tells me to do the best job possible when I'm working. Maximize earnings. That doesn't seem to be the thought process for these girls.
Having fun right now is more important than financial security.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548824]Yea, you are probably right. My western thinking tells me to do the best job possible when I'm working. Maximize earnings. That doesn't seem to be the thought process for these girls.
Having fun right now is more important than financial security.[/QUOTE]Take out top 20% soi 6 girls income.
The avg income for the rest is near Zero. From what I see nothing else makes sense.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2548766]Sure, going in front of a video camera is easier for the girls, but how much money will the men spend? I know what I will spend on video, zero. On the other hand, while in kingdom I average 2500-4000 baht per day for girls plus another 5000 baht per day for other things.[/QUOTE]You are minority. YT have hundreds millions of bored, lonely men who are incredible stupid with their money. What is 5 eur for German, American or Swiss? Nothing. Now multiply it by 1000 x and it may be serious income. Today I was watching livestream and one guy bought for cute girl 8 drinks and bought Ring Bell. Give it time, people still didn't discover these streams, with time popularity will increase, many men will get addicted, income will blow up and many best girls will move to streaming service. This may be birth of 'virtual Pattaya'. Many of you are in disbelief and denial but share market of streaming is million time bigger than monger market and it's easy money with no stigma of sex work. Some Twich girls became rich just by playing games and showing some cleavage. With incoming cryptocurrency transfers stream services will make many of these girls millioners. Enjoy while it last.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2548775]If you are asking if she is hotter than the normal Soi 6 girl, my question back is "isn't the grass always greener on the other side?" Take the sidewalk next to Treetown. When they first laid the green turf grass couple of weeks ago, Monkeypaw was headed to Tesco and made a comment to them. I said, this sidewalk puddles up after it rains, and it doesn't drain well. But at least the concrete evaporated the puddles faster because of the heat. The Thai locals that had businesses and bars on the same sidewalk looked at me stupidly. This week it rained heavily. I went to the Buakhao market to pick up some vegetables and saw one of the business owners mopping up the water on the turf. I shouted, "told you so." And she looked very happy to see me.
So the morale of the story and to answer your question is "just because it is green and looks like grass, it's all about what's underneath. " Girls that know how to throw in some contacts to make their eyes bigger, extend eye lashes, and do magic with their makeup are the ones who are victorious when it comes to beauty. Look at some of those Facebook videos with the Asian girls doing make up transformations, before and after. At the Gogo bars, they arch their asses and their backs a certain way while dancing to maximize their assets. They know how to suck in that gut and only let customers view their best angles. The top girls will know how to hide their flaws even during sex.
However, the girl in the video has a cute face, kinda witchy, but I am okay with being the Last Witch Hunter. I don't discriminate. I just penetrate and percolate. Sometimes I have a taste for short hair like the girl in question, but most of the time the Paw prefers longer straight black hair on Asian girls. It looks more natural. It looks more Asian. Nothing beats the Gogo bars when you can inspect that body from head to toe. Long legs, long black hair, slender (no baby damage) with natural perky boobs and a nice ass is what I like the most (see Miss Sleepyhead). If she has a Tom and doesn't bang or get barfined and is a challenge, those are the best..[/QUOTE]I'm very aware of the wonders of make up. I saw the Nana Plaza Rainbow 4 Super Dooper Star recently without make on her FB page. Boy is she a plain Jane. LOL.
On that channel. Search function, mods bar soi6 . Pick the one hour video taped within the past 2 days.
2 regulars are doing a Karaoke session. Worth. Admission-FREE.
You will quickly see who is comfortable in front on a Camera.
Tuk with Orange hair I'd have a one hour massage with. Seems pleasant enough. Natural looking chest.
Sound quality not good for music feed.
This is big. I waited 6 months for baseball and I'm viewing more livestream from soi 6.
I paid for MLB season package.
Look at this shit guys. Decent looking, young guys trying to get some attention while hoes jump in front on camera for virtual drinks. BTW these streams are public and permanently stored offline for anyone who wish to view it later on YT and you may get recorded, so if some of you value privacy have this in mind, before you enter check if the cam is not streaming.
Bars closed for a minimum of 2 weeks due to COVID-19.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2548799]How ever you want it to work. You can grope without buying drinks. You can fuck without buying drinks. You can buy drinks without groping or fucking. Just however you want to do it.
I think most guys feel guilty if they grope or even have a conversation without buying the girls a drink. Fortunately I have no shame so it has never been a problem for me not to buy any drinks but still converse, grope and/or fuck.[/QUOTE]You can do that once in a bar, sure.
[QUOTE=Wolvman;2549085]Look at this shit guys. Decent looking, young guys trying to get some attention while hoes jump in front on camera for virtual drinks. BTW these streams are public and permanently stored offline for anyone who wish to view it later on YT and you may get recorded, so if some of you value privacy have this in mind, before you enter check if the cam is not streaming.[/QUOTE]The number of foreigners is so low, and most foreigners have been in Pattaya for a long time, that the ladies know who is a paying customer, and who is a Cheap Charlie who won't buy drinks.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2549153]You can do that once in a bar, sure.[/QUOTE]I am not much of a bar guy but each time I've been in any bars in soi6 I've never been pushed to buy a drink for any girl.
When I found a girl that I want to settle with I bought her a drink because I decided to do it and I wanted to spend a good time with before taking her upstairs. Some of them were even surprised that I wanted to buy her a drink.
In some bars I was even completely ignored by all the girls.
I guess it has to do with the customer's personality, if the guy is boring and don't pay drinks why would she spend time with him the next time he comes.
Maybe your comment was about customers that don't even take a drink for himself, which I don't know if it's possible as I always take a drink for myself when I take a seat in a bar.
But I've certainly seen guys going straight to the girl they like, taking her upstairs without consuming any drink.
This is about soi6 bars as I very rarely go in other bars in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2548776]How does this work? Say you see a girl on soi 6 and sit with her. Do you grope a bit? Then take her upstairs? Not grope? Not sit down and have a drink yourself?
My experience was if I sat down with a girl I bought her a drink. Is this what most do or not?[/QUOTE]Yesterday what I did is barge on the cluster of girls were standing in front of the camera, pretending to be interested in what was going on. Then I beckoned the girl who had caught my eye to go upstairs. It worked.
Alas, awaiting closure of entertainment venues in Pattaya later today.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2549177]But I've certainly seen guys going straight to the girl they like, taking her upstairs without consuming any drink.
This is about soi6 bars as I very rarely go in other bars in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]This happens a lot in gogo bars. You'll see a horned up Japanese guy who wants to pump 3 or 4 girls in a night walk in to a gogo bar, circle around the stages a few times, point at a girl, girl calls mamasan, and girl is barfined within a minute of him walking in to the bar. No time wasted. No drinks bought.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2549177]I am not much of a bar guy but each time I've been in any bars in soi6 I've never been pushed to buy a drink for any girl.
When I found a girl that I want to settle with I bought her a drink because I decided to do it and I wanted to spend a good time with before taking her upstairs. Some of them were even surprised that I wanted to buy her a drink
[/QUOTE]I feel if spent some time with a girl buying her a drink and talking with affection, definitely you can squeeze GFE from her. My school of thought.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2549342]I feel if spent some time with a girl buying her a drink and talking with affection, definitely you can squeeze GFE from her. My school of thought.[/QUOTE]I don't think it matters. You're not doing her much of a favor, a drink you're paying 200 baht is worth 50 baht to her, zero novelty value and I bet she's not exactly thirsty either. What's she going to do, refuse a drink because she doesn't like you, and fail to get that commission or fill the quota?
All that a lady drink is good for is maybe evaluating chemistry with the girl up close. Even that is dubious, I had plenty of girls who were nice and enthusiastic in the bar and a flop in the room, or inversely, reserved in the bar, but really friendly and good in the room.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2549342]I feel if spent some time with a girl buying her a drink and talking with affection, definitely you can squeeze GFE from her. My school of thought.[/QUOTE]To get a GFE from a bargirl is not easy. If they are in the business fresh it can happen. But soon enough they get jaded. Most bargirls come from the villages looking money, love, better life. Initially they are sweet, friendly.
Before buying a drink make sure she is willing to go with you if you choose.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2549380]I don't think it matters. You're not doing her much of a favor, a drink you're paying 200 baht is worth 50 baht to her, zero novelty value and I bet she's not exactly thirsty either. What's she going to do, refuse a drink because she doesn't like you, and fail to get that commission or fill the quota?
All that a lady drink is good for is maybe evaluating chemistry with the girl up close. Even that is dubious, I had plenty of girls who were nice and enthusiastic in the bar and a flop in the room, or inversely, reserved in the bar, but really friendly and good in the room.[/QUOTE]Only 50 baht goes to girl? Wow, that's a ripoff. The whole concept of bardrinks would make sense if it would go to girl's pocket then she could be nicer to you, instead it's basically scam to extrude cash from nice guys. I think it's better not to buy lady drink and if girl performed well give her a tip, then you reward girl directly and not bar owner.
I used to post on here 15 - 20 years ago, but I have not been here for a while. I keep reading the partially wrong info to the total BS that isn't even close to being correct being posted here and I can't take it anymore.
So, I am back to set the record straight for all of you sitting at home dreaming about the day you will be able to come to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2549381]To get a GFE from a bargirl is not easy. If they are in the business fresh it can happen. But soon enough they get jaded. Most bargirls come from the villages looking money, love, better life. Initially they are sweet, friendly.
Before buying a drink make sure she is willing to go with you if you choose.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
Next why buying the girls drinks is an absolute must.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2549390]This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.[/QUOTE]I am with you on that and I never hear any of my friends complaining about the chicks they go with. I have always said you could just walk up and tell a chick lets go without all of the buying drinks and courting. But I guess different experiences for different people.
You can find a lot of the YT streams by searching for [URL=https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Soi+6+Pattaya]Soi 6 Pattaya[/URL] and then clicking the filter for live. Right now I'm seeing 20 odd streams, many from the Nightwish group and some duplicates, all showing women in various stages of boredom.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2549409]I am with you on that and I never hear any of my friends complaining about the chicks they go with. [b]I have always said you could just walk up and tell a chick lets go without all of the buying drinks and courting.[/b] But I guess different experiences for different people.[/QUOTE]It's even easier with some streetwalkers. I don't even need to say "let's go" or anything to them. They're the ones saying that to guys walking by.
That's the way I like it. Easy peasy.
No game whatsoever needed. Just baht.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2549390]This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
Next why buying the girls drinks is an absolute must.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say absolutely false. Haha.
About buying drinks to gage Chemistry. You can weed out ones who are absolutely disgusted by your presence.
The rest it's a roll of the Dice.
Odds are not in your Favor.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2549390]This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.
Next why buying the girls drinks is an absolute must.[/QUOTE]You can read this statement many ways. It really depends on your personal experiences and how you define GFE. I don't want the old GFE experience because old girlfriends are too much like having a wife. Sometime the new GFE is not so great either because their still trying to convince you they are "good girls". Me personally, I want the homely fat girlfriend experience but from a beautiful skinny girl. If you ever had sex with a plain looking woman who is lonely and starved for sex you will know what I mean. We used to call then "two baggers" because te only way you can do it is to place a bag over head and one over yours.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;2549447]It's even easier with some streetwalkers. I don't even need to say "let's go" or anything to them. They're the ones saying that to guys walking by.
That's the way I like it. Easy peasy.
No game whatsoever needed. Just baht.[/QUOTE]At some level, I love the Tarzan experience. All you need is to nod, and 15 min later, she's on your dick. Treat them well, of course, but I don't like the overhead of trying to game working girls.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2549513]You can read this statement many ways. It really depends on your personal experiences and how you define GFE. I don't want the old GFE experience because old girlfriends are too much like having a wife. Sometime the new GFE is not so great either because their still trying to convince you they are "good girls". Me personally, I want the homely fat girlfriend experience but from a beautiful skinny girl. If you ever had sex with a plain looking woman who is lonely and starved for sex you will know what I mean. We used to call then "two baggers" because te only way you can do it is to place a bag over head and one over yours.[/QUOTE]In Thailand they call them the 500 baht Special.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2549390]This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2549513]You can read this statement many ways. It really depends on your personal experiences and how you define GFE. I don't want the old GFE experience because old girlfriends are too much like having a wife.[/QUOTE]BillMiami's definition of GFE must be much different than my definition, or, he has a magic touch with the ladies. My definition of GFE involves lots of kisses, holding each other, chit-chat, teasing, caressing, cuddling, and BB everything. I seldom get that, especially in a first session. If Bill's definition of GFE is simply sex, that happens about 95% of the time. There have been a few times where I've sent a girl away after arriving at my room, typically because of a degraded attitude compared to when we cut a deal.
I do believe in buying 1 or 2 drinks before going to the room. That is time for chit chat to assess if I really want to spend a couple of hours with that particular girl. If she wants to get drunk, she can do that with somebody else.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2549559]BillMiami's definition of GFE must be much different than my definition, or, he has a magic touch with the ladies. My definition of GFE involves lots of kisses, holding each other, chit-chat, teasing, caressing, cuddling, and BB everything. I seldom get that, especially in a first session. If Bill's definition of GFE is simply sex, that happens about 95% of the time. There have been a few times where I've sent a girl away after arriving at my room, typically because of a degraded attitude compared to when we cut a deal.
I do believe in buying 1 or 2 drinks before going to the room. That is time for chit chat to assess if I really want to spend a couple of hours with that particular girl. If she wants to get drunk, she can do that with somebody else.[/QUOTE]As an older guy, waay older, I prefer the KTV experience in China or Cambodia. Get to know the girl, play games, sing a song, dance, have a few drinks, grope a bit, etc. The quickie does nothing for me or the hand job in a massage parlor. That's for the kids who just want to get their rocks off. I have a couple KTV girls that I consider GFE ones and both have their own cars. Will pick me up at the airport, drive to see some attraction, etc. We go to dinner, out to clubs. These I tell when I will arrive and they will show up to welcome me to China properly. Light massage if I want, take off my shoes, get my drink for me, order in if needed as I don't speak much Chinese. I enjoy the GFE even though I know I am paying for it. Never had them count the RMB as they were leaving, just put in their bag whatever I gave them, and yes I am generous but not extravagant.
This is more in line with what I like. I like to play four square and other games for an hour or two and get to know the girl. Then maybe take back to hotel or take a couple nights later. I like the GFE, so I want to get to know them better.
Not on soi 6 though. It's more of a buy them a drink, grope a bit then either take to room or leave.
In phuket I had girls I never barfined but would buy drinks for and play games with often. For 1000 baht I could spend a pleasant couple hours, get a little drunk a the have a good time.
The part I'm bad at is when a girl pulls me into bar and she sits right next to me kind of hanging on, I feel obligated to buy her a drink when I buy mine.
[QUOTE=MrClen;2549574]As an older guy, waay older, I prefer the KTV experience in China or Cambodia. Get to know the girl, play games, sing a song, dance, have a few drinks, grope a bit, etc. The quickie does nothing for me or the hand job in a massage parlor. That's for the kids who just want to get their rocks off. I have a couple KTV girls that I consider GFE ones and both have their own cars. Will pick me up at the airport, drive to see some attraction, etc. We go to dinner, out to clubs. These I tell when I will arrive and they will show up to welcome me to China properly. Light massage if I want, take off my shoes, get my drink for me, order in if needed as I don't speak much Chinese. I enjoy the GFE even though I know I am paying for it. Never had them count the RMB as they were leaving, just put in their bag whatever I gave them, and yes I am generous but not extravagant.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2549559]BillMiami's definition of GFE must be much different than my definition, or, he has a magic touch with the ladies. My definition of GFE involves lots of kisses, holding each other, chit-chat, teasing, caressing, cuddling, and BB everything.[/QUOTE]That's pretty close to my definition of a GFE in the P4P world, too. I can't imagine putting up with any "Girlfriend" for more than a single night whose sexual participation and expectations were less than that.
However, regardless what details define a GFE for each of us in a P4P session, we can probably assume the punter touting the term means it was a positive, pleasant, successful sexual session.
That makes it very difficult for me to take recommendations seriously from punters who say things like they've had thousands of P4P sessions over many years and 100% of them were "positive, pleasant sexual successes", never had a bad experience, never had a reason to complain, don't know anyone else who had a bad experience or a reason to complain either and so on.
Oh, it isn't that I don't believe them or that I think they are just being provocative, winging it and making stuff up that sounds good at the moment. I have no reason to suspect they have had anything but very good to great sex (for them, by their standards, of course) with every one of the thousands of P4P ladies they have ever been with over many years, etc.
It's that such assertions render any list of "Do's and Don't's for a successful P4P session" that follow from that punter utterly irrelevant if not silly. By their own doing based on those kind of assertions. How could someone who has never had a bad P4P sexual session possibly know what does or doesn't produce one?
I mean, realistically speaking, for all he or anyone else knows, such a punter has been having just ok sex sessions with every P4P lady he has ever been with and might be shocked to start having truly great ones if only he experimented with doing the opposite of everything he's done and recommended up to now.
I find this emphasis on GFE funny, because speaking for myself, the last thing I want from a sexual relationship is (girl)friendship to be in the way. As soon as I become friends with a woman, she ceases to appear to me as a pure sex object and I go off her. That maybe the reason why I don't like to buy girls drink before we go to the room. The less I come to know a girl, the better the sex with her. Taking a girl along on a beach holiday presents me with a dilemma too: either we have a good time as friends together but the sex goes downhill, or we have great sex because we remain strangers or even half hostile to one another. I have a fucked up brain.
I visited a Real Doll (sexbot) brothel in Dormund (Germany) twice. The technology is not rife regarding adopting positions, but once it is, no more bio-women for me for sure.
[QUOTE=XXL;2549636]I find this emphasis on GFE funny, because speaking for myself, the last thing I want from a sexual relationship is (girl)friendship to be in the way. As soon as I become friends with a woman, she ceases to appear to me as a pure sex object and I go off her. That maybe the reason why I don't like to buy girls drink before we go to the room. The less I come to know a girl, the better the sex with her. Taking a girl along on a beach holiday presents me with a dilemma too: either we have a good time as friends together but the sex goes downhill, or we have great sex because we remain strangers or even half hostile to one another. I have a fucked up brain.
I visited a Real Doll (sexbot) brothel in Dormund (Germany) twice. The technology is not rife regarding adopting positions, but once it is, no more bio-women for me for sure.[/QUOTE]Lol. I am not interested in a GF "relationship" with a P4P girl either. Just the "Experience" of the kind of sex classically associated with what two people in love as BF+GF would have.
Actually, many P4P girls are the ones all too often pushing for a boyfriend "relationship" with customers they lobby hard to repeat. That is, help them with this or that problem unrelated to getting sex for this amount of time for this amount of money directly.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2549672]Lol. I am not interested in a GF "relationship" with a P4P girl either. Just the "Experience" of the kind of sex classically associated with what two people in love as BF+GF would have.[/QUOTE]Same for me and there is time limit of 2 hours. I haven't done overnight with a hooker for about 3 years. I don't pay girls for sex, I pay them to leave. If I want a relationship (and I do), the selection is from a completely different pool of girls.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2549390]This is absolutely false, of the 2,000 or so ladies I have been with over the years 100% provide GFE. This guy has NO idea what he is talking about...[/QUOTE]You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling!
[QUOTE=Horatio;2549576]The part I'm bad at is when a girl pulls me into bar and she sits right next to me kind of hanging on, I feel obligated to buy her a drink when I buy mine.[/QUOTE]
Please try to refrain from doing this. Positive reinforcement encourages them to continue their begging. I have no problem saying no.
[QUOTE=Wolvman;2549385]Only 50 baht goes to girl? Wow, that's a ripoff. The whole concept of bardrinks would make sense if it would go to girl's pocket then she could be nicer to you, instead it's basically scam to extrude cash from nice guys. I think it's better not to buy lady drink and if girl performed well give her a tip, then you reward girl directly and not bar owner.[/QUOTE]In most cases it is only 50 baht per drink. The part that you are missing is that girls get a nice bonus if they meet the bars drink minimum per week. It's different for each bar and even among girls in the same bar. One example may be if the girl can get 50 drinks in a week she will earn 10,000 baht. In some bars a barfine may count as 5 or 10 drinks to the count. Many times if the girl is short 2 or 5 drinks they will buy the drinks themselves so they get the 10 k baht.
Tipping is common. It's why guys at gogo bars like Windmill, Electric Blue, and other skank bars will tip the girl 100 baht instead of buying them a drink to stick a finger or tongue in their pussy for a set. One of my favorite girls in 2015/16 was a cute Windmill girl who used to let me do whatever I wanted to her for my entire stay for 200 baht. Great deal.
I am not stopping either as long as you keep talking your BS or out and out made up cr ap I am going to keep calling you out.
But, I have learned something from reading your post which I want to thank you for. Which is, Pattaya is the only place in the world where you DO NOT need money to have an awesome time with the ladies. Who knew?
If that wasn't the case, why would people keep bragging about never buying a girl a drink or not spending enough to get a lady drunk. You surely wouldn't want to get the reputation as a "Cheap Charely" with the ladies, because everybody knows they can't wait till one of those guys walk in.
And if you have lived here long enough which most of seem to assert, then you know very well what kind of memory these ladies have, and it's a lot better than any of ours.
OK, enough comedy, now a little knowledge for the guys that haven't been here yet. Most Thai girls in these bars love having fun as well as getting drunk. And before one of these guys mention it, of course the ladies get a little money every time you buy them a drink. And in most cases, but not all, you get $50 worth of fun and entertainment for a $5 drink. Who wins? I do of course, I wish all my investments brought me a 1000% ROI in a few minutes.
Look, seriously, in most cases, but again, not all you don't want the nicest looking girl in the bar, but the one that likes you the most who also happens to be a little crazy. And if she had been drinking before you got there, all the better.
Which is why buying them a few drinks before taking them upstairs is a MUST. Which is exactly why I always have a blast. While they are sitting with you, it's possible to put them on your lap and see who grinds the best, which ones are grabbing you all over especially in the right spot, or which lets you do pretty much anything you want to them before you make your decision. And if you don't like the first one, just get rid of her and find a couple more and start the whole process all over.
I don't know if you would call my last escapade on Soi 6 this week a GFE or just a GMGFE experience, but since some of you seem to know these definitions so much better than I do, why don't you come up with the correct phrase to title my last afternoon interlude.
I had been to 2 or 3 bars, bought a few girls drinks and had not found what I was looking for. Down near the end of the street near Beach Road on the left hand side they had the cutest little things dressed in stewardess uniforms, of course I had to go in, buy a few drinks to see if I could find a few ladies that I wanted to hang out with.
And I hit a home-run, not only was she sexy as hell, she was all over me as soon as I sat down and got her and her friend some drinks. I didn't even finish my first drink when I said "pay bar and room", and let's go.
After the normal shower routine, I laid on the bed and had one on the left and right of my french kissing each other while I slapped the hell out of both of their asses. The wild one really liked it and I thought to myself, I bet I could do just about anything within reason to this girl.
Next, of course I had to review their oral experience while the other one was practicing her oral technique on my chest and / or french kissing me. Of course they had to reverse their positions so I could give each one of them a proper grade at the end of the session. And that was just the beginning, use your imagination as to what happened for the next couple of hours. If you can think of it, it more than likely happened.
We will let the experts decide rather this was a real GFE, a GMGFE or just a run of the mill encounter.
NEXT POST: How I grope 50 or more women in a couple of hours, and better yet, have them come up to me pulling down their tops and bottoms for me to bless them.
And for all the haters, before you start hating once again, I tell you which bar I am going to and what time I am going to be there for you to come and either confirm what I am saying or call me out for being one more BS'er.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2549678]You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling![/QUOTE]555 now this is getting interesting. Debate of what is the correct definition of GFE. Would need a new separate thread for that as I would expect there is close to as many variations as there is boyfriends and girlfriends. I have had few real GFs, and have to say each of them provided pretty different experience.
My experience is that quite a few of the real GFs I had actually did not provide 'proper' expected GFE in the sex department, recall one (short timed one) that was a total starfish in bed as she did not feel anything but she knew that good GF lets BF fuck (and she did as much as needed), probably no nerves in pussy or something. And recall one long-time (years) GF where the later times prior to splitting were rather unpleasant, no sex, plenty of yakyak and silent treatment etc. Still GFE I guess as she was GF in the real meaning.
And to compensate that, (suprisingly) many of the hookers actually provided very good perceived GFE for and hour or even a night+morning, though far from 100% of them.
Then there are very different expectations from male part as well. Some even like their GF to tie him down, put rubber to asshole and beat with a whip while managing the rubber.
Just define it as 'woman lets man fuck her in at one or more of her holes' and you are getting close to 100% of hit rate among P4 P providers!
Narrow it down with anything (like adding'. Behaving as if she would enjoy the time') or to match with personal expectations for various components, 100% sure the hit rate will start dropping.
better just enjoy fucking and dont worry too much whether it was GFE or not!
[QUOTE=Horatio;2549576]The part I'm bad at is when a girl pulls me into bar and she sits right next to me kind of hanging on, I feel obligated to buy her a drink when I buy mine.[/QUOTE]If she gave you entertainment there is nothing wrong about buying her drinks. But instead of guilt and 'obligation' you should look for 'value'. If she brought value by giving you good time, making you smile, hugging etc. You may reward her with drink if money is not issue for you but buying drinks for nothing, for value not provided, spoils girls as they will expect this from you and other customers and it will spoil experience for everybody. It also makes you look like sucker in girl's eyes, girls don't respect guys who throw money on them for nothing. Make her work for reward and they will love it.
If girl is friendly and gives me good time I always reward her with drinks but not because I feel obligated but because she provided entertainment.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2549678]You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling![/QUOTE]He: I had a girlfriend experience yesterday.
She: he he he I had 5 boyfriend experiences yesterday. All I had to do was smile, kiss him, tell him he was very nice and I made an extra 3000 in tips. He he good business this GFE.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2549678]You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling![/QUOTE]If the gentleman (Bill Miami) lives here I can believe him. Because now that I've lived here (Bangkok not Pattaya) for 3 years I never have a bad session anymore, or at least so seldom that I can say never. When I used to visit while on Holiday and the first years that I lived here I had my share of so-so sessions, but the last 2 years and especially since Covid-19 and the lack of tourists I cannot remember a bad session. Ever since this was posted I have been trying to remember a bad or mediocre session and I can't remember one.
I think it took me a year to get well known enough in the bars that I frequent and that long to learn how to talk to Thai ladies so that I can achieve this success rate. Thai ladies will do anything that you want and they can be very passionate but you have to learn how to ask or tell them what you want. You can ask anything and can even change their initial response if you can ask without being rude. It's not what you think is being rude it's how she thinks if you're being rude or not. I can now have the same discussions that I tried to have 2 years ago when they said I was rude but now I'm no longer considered rude. I'm not saying that the girl always agrees to my terms but at least we can have the conversation and at the end I say well then we can just be drinking friends and I buy her another drink (if it's one of my regular bars). Most times within a couple of weeks when we're drinking together she tells me that she's ready to go with me now.
The bottom line is that living here makes a world of difference.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2549678]You make the statement that 100% of your sessions have been GFE, yet everybody knows that's impossible in the P4 P world, no matter how you define GFE. Then you turn around and state that the monger has no idea what he is talking about. Not sure what to say about that, Mind boggling![/QUOTE]The known inconsistency and unpredictability of human behavior, combined with mere probability, means there is no way in hell that somebody with 2,000 encounters with prostitutes received a quality GFE 100% of the time. That's nothing but pure hyperbole! Think about it. Did you get 2,000 perfect GFE's from your "real civilian" girlfriend who you didn't have to ask "how much"? Or how about from your wife LOL! Come on! There are mongers here with deep experience who weren't born yesterday.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2549605]That makes it very difficult for me to take recommendations seriously from punters who say things like they've had thousands of P4P sessions over many years and 100% of them were "positive, pleasant sexual sucesses", never had a bad experience, never had a reason to complain, don't know anyone else who had a bad experience or a reason to complain either and so on.[/QUOTE]Maybe if someone said ever in life it would be hard to believe. But I have mongered in countless countries and I am not saying that every chick in the world that I have been with has been GFE. There are countries known for GFE and I am pretty much near 100% in those places. Thailand is one. Brazil is another.
I get ragged on in the Domimican thread because I complain about the non-GFE there while most guys that have never mongered in other countries to them it is all supreme. They say why do I continue to go to the country if all I have is complaints. And I am like go somewhere like Brazil or Thailand so you can have something to compare it to and open your eyes to see the raw deal you are continuously getting.
Natty Bumpo is in Brazil right now. Months ago when he was planning the trip, I told him that if he had a bad session there then I would pay for it. Go read his reports in the Rio thread. He seems to be at 100% so far to the tune that he is giving out $20 tips to chicks, while I rarely pay more than $20 there for the entire session.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2549605]That makes it very difficult for me to take recommendations seriously from punters who say things like they've had thousands of P4P sessions over many years and 100% of them were "positive, pleasant sexual sucesses", never had a bad experience, never had a reason to complain, don't know anyone else who had a bad experience or a reason to complain either and so on.
I mean, realistically speaking, for all he or anyone else knows, such a punter has been having just ok sex sessions with every P4P lady he has ever been with and might be shocked to start having truly great ones if only he experimented with doing the opposite of everything he's done and recommended up to now.[/QUOTE]Because those of us who have lived long enough, and there are plenty of us here, we know from direct experience that as a rule life doesn't work that way. That every single interaction that we have with another human being goes 100% exactly the way we want it to. Now, when it comes to prostitution, if you're good at what you do as a monger, then most of your encounters can indeed be quite good by most objective measures. But to sit there and proclaim that out of thousands and thousands of sessions they all have been 100% on point is totally unbelievable. Pure hyperbole. And that view isn't anything about being a "hater". It's an acknowledgement of the realities of life and living, and dealing with other people, including each of our own selves as individuals and as customers.
In terms of good sessions with ladies, Pattaya is certainly in the top 3 destinations, along with Brazil and Russia. Probably the best session I ever had, in terms of work ethic, was in Pattaya, with a lady who was a total pro. When I paid her for Long Time, she would fuck me even if I didn't ask her, she just did it, day time, night time, whenever. The only time a lady refused to stop fucking when I came, until I came again. I almost died.
But, everything is closed now, for 2 weeks+. Very sad.
I don't want GFE. In Real Life, GFE means you have to make your girlfriend happy. That could mean a lot of work. I had a girlfriend who needed 2 hours of fucking to cum. NO fun.
What I want is the 3 minute fuck, so I don't have to worry about the lady. That's what mongering should be about. If I want GFE, I'll get a G.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2549835]I don't want GFE. In Real Life, GFE means you have to make your girlfriend happy. That could mean a lot of work. I had a girlfriend who needed 2 hours of fucking to cum. NO fun.
What I want is the 3 minute fuck, so I don't have to worry about the lady. That's what mongering should be about. If I want GFE, I'll get a G.[/QUOTE]Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2549825]Natty Bumpo is in Brazil right now. Months ago when he was planning the trip, I told him that if he had a bad session there then I would pay for it. Go read his reports in the Rio thread. He seems to be at 100% so far to the tune that he is giving out $20 tips to chicks, while I rarely pay more than $20 there for the entire session.[/QUOTE]Mr. E is right. I am having a great time in RJ and that despite a shutdown of all Termas, Prive's and restaurants which just ended yesterday. I went to my 1st RJ massage parlor yesterday. What saved me this past week were the beaches and the Barra VIP call girls. So, yes I am batting 100%, but delving a little closer into the stats you will find that 7 different girls (so far): 2 were "rock my night" outstanding (I repeated with one of these), 2 more were pretty outstanding too, but I have to knock off a few points for the silly cone they had stapled to their chests. (nonetheless I repeated with of those girls last night – ha ha). And three others that satisfied and gave me a respectable session, but didn't really set off any 4th of July firecrackers. It must also be noted that I have not barebacked one Brazilian girl to date in RJ. And it must also be noted that I had a near miss a couple of nights ago when a Barra VIP girl came over and insisted on getting paid before play. I naturally refused to go along that foolishness and she left a little miffed.
My point is this: the RJ girls that I have been with so far have been pretty great. But so are most of the Thai, Indo, and Filipina girls I have been with as well. Brazilian girls are just another flavor and I like this new flavor. It is really tasty. That's all. It will be interesting to see what my stats are at the end of this trip. I am just getting in the groove, Brazil is just opening up again (the bars and massage parlors) and I have 4.5 more weeks down here. Whoopie! I am heading for SP Monday. Looking forward to the big city, but I don't want to leave RJ either. Ha Ha. That is how I feel.
Last point: I originally thought of RJ & SP as nothing more than backup trips (substitute trips) in case LOS continued to remain shut off from the world. But now after only 7 days down here and with a shutdown to boot, I do not feel that way anymore. I now think RJ is a unique world class punting destination. I am really glad I came.
Mr. E, I had the delightful and always beautiful Yasmin (Barra VIP's girl) over a 2nd time last night. You will be proud of me. I only tipped her 50 br!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2549834]In terms of good sessions with ladies, Pattaya is certainly in the top 3 destinations, along with Brazil and Russia. Probably the best session I ever had, in terms of work ethic, was in Pattaya, with a lady who was a total pro. When I paid her for Long Time, she would fuck me even if I didn't ask her, she just did it, day time, night time, whenever. The only time a lady refused to stop fucking when I came, until I came again. I almost died.
But, everything is closed now, for 2 weeks+. Very sad.[/QUOTE]I vouch for Brazil, and I also typically have had very, very good experiences in Germany at the FKKs too. I believe that the top three mongering destinations in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. That's my order of preference. Other mongers would have it differently. All that said, I love Ruskie girl puss and ass! Thing is, I've had it just about everywhere else but in Russia itself LOL! I've encountered "Rusas" not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Asia. Also in Latin America!
We need photos of what a FREE Pattaya girl looks like.
The Free narrative just doesn't make sense.
Similar to the I Want to Pay Higher Taxes meme crazy people claim.
So I've been following that Korean boys livestream. He has 2 girls with him, pretty sure like100%paid.
Lots of eating and drinking.
Looks like he makes a lot of money, lots of paid subs. And quite a few donated money during Livestream.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2549878]Last point: I originally thought of RJ & SP as nothing more than backup trips (substitute trips) in case LOS continued to remain shut off from the world. But now after only 7 days down here and with a shutdown to boot, I do not feel that way anymore. I now think RJ is a unique world class punting destination. I am really glad I came.[/QUOTE]That's what the heck plenty of us have been saying literally for decades! I mean, did you think that all of the field reports and pictures were just some made up, exaggerated bullshit or something? I know a man needs to decide for himself, but my God if you can give it a go, then by all means do so. But don't wait until a once in a century pandemic to take a leap of faith! What would you have done if there had been no COVID leading to the shutdown of the LOS? Never have gone to Brazil to see for yourself even once, when you clearly had the time and means to do so? You're there enjoying it now when the place is only a small showing of what it's capable of. There are plenty of mongers here who have been saying forever that Brazil is a world-class mongering destination, and I've been one of them. There are plenty of other seasoned mongers here, and when they say a destination is top notch, it's time to sit up and listen and accept the "learnings" that are being bestowed upon you gratis! I suppose better late than never. Geesh!
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2549867]Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.[/QUOTE]Yep. Not even women know why it is so hard for most of them to cum. As opposed to bargirls who "cum" every time they have a customer. And then there was the civvie lady who had an orgasm every 3 minutes. She would cum, stop, cum again, stop. Shampoo, rinse, repeat, until she was too tired to continue. Leaving me somewhat unfulfilled.
Anyway, I am paying for me, not them, so I don't care if they cum or not. If I am not paying, then, yes, out of courtesy I will give them plenty of time until they cum or get too tired to play anymore, and then I go for it.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2549903]I vouch for Brazil, and I also typically have had very, very good experiences in Germany at the FKKs too. I believe that the top three mongering destinations in the world are Brazil, Germany, and Thailand. That's my order of preference. Other mongers would have it differently. All that said, I love Ruskie girl puss and ass! Thing is, I've had it just about everywhere else but in Russia itself LOL! I've encountered "Rusas" not only in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Asia. Also in Latin America![/QUOTE]/ threadfuck ON.
I spent a lot of time in Russia. The absolute best place for women was in Novosibirsk, Siberia, in December. Cheap sex, women who had no money and nothing to do, it was great. Of course, it was minus 40 degrees outside so just going outside my hotel was an adventure.
/ threadfuck OFF.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2549878]...It must also be noted that I have not barebacked one Brazilian girl to date in RJ..[/QUOTE]Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?
I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2549867]Its funny what you said, but a lot women take a long time to cum or don't even cum at all no matter how good of a shag one is!! Hilarious, but true.[/QUOTE]No way will 3 minutes or even 30 minutes make me happy. For me it's all about levels of dick sensitivity which are based on how much sex I am getting at the time. Like everyone, the more I fuck, the longer it takes me to finish. Sometimes I never can no matter how long the session.
An interesting observation of mine is that I have found that with freebies, the girl comes early and multiple times. Not so with P4 P girls, real or imagined.
Happy in the hobby.
Johnie.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2550088]Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?
I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.[/QUOTE]/ Beating a dead horse ON.
I have sad news for you concerning ladies in Pattaya. It is very common for ladies to seek Thai men after work, when they have money in their pocket. Pattaya is filled with bars for Thai ladies, some featuring rent boys, others are mixed where ladies go to pick up men for free. The problem is that men at these bar are coming off work, too. Many work at gay bars in Pattaya, which tend to close before 1 am, so now the Thai men working these bars are free to seek women when their bars close and their male customers go home. Yeah, I know, it's shocking. Thai men will let themselves get fucked by farangs for money, even if they are straight.
Just like you, customers of these Thai rent boys, both male and female, often decline condoms. That means that some particularly nasty diseases are shared among the gay customers, the Thai men, and bar girls that go with these Thai men. So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.
BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.
/ Beating a dead horse OFF.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2550088]Natty, is that because the girls there generally refuse to go bareback when the subject is brought up, because a "go with the flow" approach has never gone there for you in RJ, because you purposely choose not to go bareback with the girls in RJ even when they are perfectly fine with it or because of something else?
I'm pretty sure I would be among the (well, at least) 99% Success Rate Club membership in Thailand if going bareback wasn't an absolute necessity in order for me to engage in penis-vagina sex, having a GFE, PSE or any real fucking experience at all. However, it is.[/QUOTE]ET,
I think we both agree on one thing: there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. You play it straight with the girls and tell them up front what you want. They can accept your proposal or reject it. Up to them My approach gives the girls their option to have covered or uncovered intercourse, but I do expect all my girls to give me friendly, passionate sex and I screen for that very carefully.
So I am down here in Rio and I have been intimate with 8 girls / 3 repeats to date. All I can tell you is I that thus far I am batting 0 out of 8 on barebacking and 7 out of 8 on performing cunnilingus and getting great BBBJ's (and that includes the repeats), so it is not for lack of trying, 555, especially with my 3 repeats.
Last night for example, I had Monique, my favorite over again. The foreplay was great and included, dancing, kissing, deep throating, ect, ect, and it is safe to say that Monique was in good place especially after I went down her and devoured her lovely flower. So, she was ready for the main event. I moved up into position, began kissing her mouth, she responded with her eyes still closed, and I was about to enter the event horizon, the point of entry, when Monique opened her eye, smiled, giggled, moved slightly out of the way, and said "condom". Now being the gentleman that I am, I continued kissing and fondling her while I whispered "why condom" and she just said "because". LOL.
And that was the sum total of our conversation on the subject. Ha Ha! The reason being that I feel that if the girl wants a condom then she should get the condom. So after a while, when I was ready to fuck her, I reached over to the nightstand and gave her a Sagami 002 L. I brought down 4 boxes to them. She put it on me, then got on top and away we went with cowgirl, mish, and lastly sideways from behind. It was all very very good. Now obviously, I like this girl a lot or I wouldn't have asked her back, and of course bareback would have made it even better. But that's the way it went. And that's more or less the way it went my 2 other repeat girls, Deborah and Yasmin, and the others too. Point being I would have done them all bareback, but they all wanted a condom, so that is what they got it. I have no regrets.
But this is all anecdotal information. My sample size is still too small to form any conclusions. Perhaps Cane can tell us what he thinks the percentage of Brazilian working girls performing bareback services to first time customers is. I am still in the investigatory phase of this study.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2550178]/ Beating a dead horse ON.
I have sad news for you concerning ladies in Pattaya. It is very common for ladies to seek Thai men after work, when they have money in their pocket. Pattaya is filled with bars for Thai ladies, some featuring rent boys, others are mixed where ladies go to pick up men for free. The problem is that men at these bar are coming off work, too. Many work at gay bars in Pattaya, which tend to close before 1 am, so now the Thai men working these bars are free to seek women when their bars close and their male customers go home. Yeah, I know, it's shocking. Thai men will let themselves get fucked by farangs for money, even if they are straight.
Just like you, customers of these Thai rent boys, both male and female, often decline condoms. That means that some particularly nasty diseases are shared among the gay customers, the Thai men, and bar girls that go with these Thai men. So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.
BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.
/ Beating a dead horse OFF.[/QUOTE]I think it's fine to bring reality here. Some here sound so Sincere yet just not believe able. Old guys pleasuring Thai hookers- I'm not there yet. LOL.
Many girls I get along with tell me I'm Customer.
So Pattaya flooded yesterday. Why would a Taxi driver pick up customers who going to Stink up his car with their wet Filthy shoes?
That Street water looks nasty as the Dickens.
Better than Ozzy Osbourne reality show.
So the 2 attractive Thai girls in Parts are Drunk. More drinking planned at the Girls hotel room. Girls look like they getting Frisky. Korean guy does not approve and leaves. Less than 20 minutes in room. The last 3 hours of his stream was him in his room.
I wonder if Romantic stuff. You know what I mean,. Would get his Channel demobilized. LOL.
P.S. I didn't watch all 8 hours. With fast forward you can get the Basics of what happened.
Korean I do not understand.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2550209]ET,
I think we both agree on one thing: there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. You play it straight with the girls and tell them up front what you want. They can accept your proposal or reject it. Up to them My approach gives the girls their option to have covered or uncovered intercourse, but I do expect all my girls to give me friendly, passionate sex and I screen for that very carefully.
So I am down here in Rio and I have been intimate with 8 girls / 3 repeats to date. All I can tell you is I that thus far I am batting 0 out of 8 on barebacking and 7 out of 8 on performing cunnilingus and getting great BBBJ's (and that includes the repeats), so it is not for lack of trying, 555, especially with my 3 repeats.
Last night for example, I had Monique, my favorite over again. The foreplay was great and included, dancing, kissing, deep throating, ect, ect, and it is safe to say that Monique was in good place especially after I went down her and devoured her lovely flower. So, she was ready for the main event. I moved up into position, began kissing her mouth, she responded with her eyes still closed, and I was about to enter the event horizon, the point of entry, when Monique opened her eye, smiled, giggled, moved slightly out of the way, and said "condom". Now being the gentleman that I am, I continued kissing and fondling her while I whispered "why condom" and she just said "because". LOL.
And that was the sum total of our conversation on the subject. Ha Ha! The reason being that I feel that if the girl wants a condom then she should get the condom. So after a while, when I was ready to fuck her, I reached over to the nightstand and gave her a Sagami 002 L. I brought down 4 boxes to them. She put it on me, then got on top and away we went with cowgirl, mish, and lastly sideways from behind. It was all very very good. Now obviously, I like this girl a lot or I wouldn't have asked her back, and of course bareback would have made it even better. But that's the way it went. And that's more or less the way it went my 2 other repeat girls, Deborah and Yasmin, and the others too. Point being I would have done them all bareback, but they all wanted a condom, so that is what they got it. I have no regrets.
But this is all anecdotal information. My sample size is still too small to form any conclusions. Perhaps Cane can tell us what he thinks the percentage of Brazilian working girls performing bareback services to first time customers is. I am still in the investigatory phase of this study.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the followup info, Natty. For me, that is critical info. I would have stopped at that same point of entry on the girl's objection to bareback with me as well on the rare ocassion that I had not cleared up the bareback or not issue before I took a girl.
However, the difference for me is it would have been a waste of time for me to then reach for a condom even if it were gossamer thin and dripping inside and out with the best high tech lube on the market. Lol. I would have wound up asking for a BBBJ+CIM as a backup. Failing that, I would have had to simply pay her the full agreed upon amount or the going rate, thanked her for her time and bid her farewell.
I know you have a fairly high rate of success in choosing girls who are into you enough to feel comfortable and even enthusiastic about going bareback with you, especially on repeats. So I will add your info and others I have heard over the years to scratch Brazil off my list of "must visit" P4P destinations. I'll pass on ever bothering to take that trip and not regret it for one minute.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2550178]BTW, bargirls will claim that they never go to the rent boy bars, but somehow, those bars are filled with lady customers at 3 am.[/QUOTE]How would you know this?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2550178]So, HIV levels in Pattaya are higher than you would want to know about, as well as other diseases that saliva can't kill.[/QUOTE]
Have any medical studies or even credible sources supporting this claim?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2550369]...However, the difference for me is it would have been a waste of time for me to then reach for a condom even if it were gossamer thin and dripping inside and out with the best high tech lube on the market. Lol. I would have wound up asking for a BBBJ+CIM as a backup. Failing that, I would have had to simply pay her the full agreed upon amount or the going rate, thanked her for her time and bid her farewell...[/QUOTE]ET, I am not sure if you had a chance to monger in Brazil or not. I have, on numerous occasions, mostly in Rio and once in Saō Paulo.
If you have mongered in Brazil, then I have no further comment on your post above. But if you haven't, I would suggest you give it a try. Maybe you would still feel the same way, or maybe you will change your opinion. I am betting that you will have a different view. Sex with a Brazilian WG is a unique experience! And I wish that every monger gets a chance to experience that.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2550209]
... Sagami 002 L...[/QUOTE]That got me very interested. Sizing always an issue. This website ended up being extremely helpful. [URL]http://condom-reviews.com/[/URL].
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2550209]ET,
there is no comparison between bareback and covered vaginal sex. Our main difference is that you require bareback with all your girls and I do not. This important and critical difference leads us to are different approaches in making the pickup. I am not critical of your approach. [/QUOTE]Hundred percent agree with your point. I always prefer peace of mind in one night stand. If you know her well can take the heaven.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Achmmc;2550432]That got me very interested. Sizing always an issue. This website ended up being extremely helpful. [URL]http://condom-reviews.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]This chart is hardly helpful. Durex manufactures dozens of "different" condoms, but it's 100% marketing and 0% R&D because basically those condoms all the same latex shit. Sizes mean little with latex as latex stretches and thins when you stretch it. Good isn't it? Well hardly, even if you stretch latex to a nano-thickness, it is a crappy insulating material that feels like it was engineered to kill any feeling in the bud.
[QUOTE=XXL;2550442]Good isn't it? Well hardly, even if you stretch latex to a nano-thickness, it is a crappy insulating material that feels like it was engineered to kill any feeling in the bud.[/QUOTE]This is why I try to get maximum high quality lube inside the condom (silicone lube works best for me). The condom slides on my cock during sex. Much like I fuck the condom and the condom fucks the pussy.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2550429]ET, I am not sure if you had a chance to monger in Brazil or not. I have, on numerous occasions, mostly in Rio and once in Saō Paulo.
If you have mongered in Brazil, then I have no further comment on your post above. But if you haven't, I would suggest you give it a try. Maybe you would still feel the same way, or maybe you will change your opinion. I am betting that you will have a different view. Sex with a Brazilian WG is a unique experience! And I wish that every monger gets a chance to experience that.[/QUOTE]Lefeu, thanks for the encouragement. But the hard, clear, insurmountable issue is condom or no condom. I am sure Brazilian women are beautiful, sexy, wild, have great butts, tits, are very loving, attentive, masterful at this and that, etc.
Believe it or not, I have been with many such women in my life and, guess what, the hard, clear, insurmountable issue with them was condom or no condom.
No, I have never been to Brazil.
However, unless Brazilian women happily give world class BBBJ+CIM to men who can not fuck them with a condom, something I have never heard or read about (maybe I missed it), if I got 3 refusals for BBFS+CIP in a row either upfront before taking a girl or in my bed after arriving in Brazil I would immediately cancel whatever I could of my hotel booking, change my return flight to ASAP, get back to my beloved Bangkok and consider that P4P trip to Brazil to be a colossal waste of my time and money. Guaranteed.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2550455]This is why I try to get maximum high quality lube inside the condom (silicone lube works best for me). The condom slides on my cock during sex. Much like I fuck the condom and the condom fucks the pussy.[/QUOTE]You might as well fill that condom with lube and jack off. Save a few Baht, LOL I'm just kidding HT whatever works for each one of us is what it's all about. The important thing is that you found a solution that works for you. I tried the lube inside the condom but at 71 years old it didn't make enough of a difference to matter. I'm not sure if the lube was silicone.
Yesterday a former Soi 6 regular of mine told me before Covid she could make 200 k Baht / month at Soi 6. Not bad. No wonder such girls lend a deaf ear to the fem's calls for them to cease being sex-slaves to foreign men.
In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days. A possible upgrade would be going bareback but there's a trade-off between barebacking and changing girls. Maybe if I could have my pick from any gogo line-up Thailand would be a satisfying mongering destination and not just a country where I can somehow get laid.
I had planned to take a month off from Pattaya and go to enjoy the beaches on Samui but with a hard lockdown likelier by the day I have given up that plan.
[QUOTE=XXL;2550802]Yesterday a former Soi 6 regular of mine told me before Covid she could make 200 k Baht / month at Soi 6. Not bad. No wonder such girls lend a deaf ear to the fem's calls for them to cease being sex-slaves to foreign men.
In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days. A possible upgrade would be going bareback but there's a trade-off between barebacking and changing girls. Maybe if I could have my pick from any gogo line-up Thailand would be a satisfying mongering destination and not just a country where I can somehow get laid.
I had planned to take a month off from Pattaya and go to enjoy the beaches on Samui but with a hard lockdown likelier by the day I have given up that plan.[/QUOTE]Do you believe her? Maybe fat finger mistake and she meant 20,000.
By the numbers.
200,000 is $6,000 a month. That's $200 a day in Soi 6- notorious for Cheap Charles's.
Did you notice she always has men around her?
Did you see her bankbook.
I'm such a Skeptical fellow. LOL.
P.S. Anyone know where I can get Rabbit size condom? Extra extra small size-adking for a friend. Haha. Haha.
[QUOTE=XXL;2550802]
I had planned to take a month off from Pattaya and go to enjoy the beaches on Samui but with a hard lockdown likelier by the day I have given up that plan.[/QUOTE]Probably good idea to wait on Samui. I'm in regular contact with two Samui friends. Only about 1/3 of businesses are even open in the northern part of the island. Lamai has almost nothing open. These reports from about 2 weeks ago.
Samui is my favorite part of Thailand. Even during high season on a good year there are very few hot P4P girls. Except for a few nights I've always found one to make me very happy.
[QUOTE=XXL;2550802]...In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days.....[/QUOTE]I know each person has a different experience but I have difficulty nutting if the girl is average looking. If she is very hot I come to fruition easily.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2549918]We need photos of what a FREE Pattaya girl looks like.
The Free narrative just doesn't make sense.
Similar to the I Want to Pay Higher Taxes meme crazy people claim.[/QUOTE]Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop. Now she clears about 150,000 baht a month with her shop. When she is stressed out, she messages Monkepaw for a "hug. " She comes over, not even dolled up, and just in her jammies. A little conversation, then a quick hand job, followed by a condom and sex. There is no kissing, no showering (besides me beforehand), no dick sucking, no pussy licking whatsoever. Once we are done with our 30-45 minutes of hard pounding and fucking, if it's late, she sleeps over. If it's not, she goes back home. I've never paid for anything for her, not a date, not a meal, since we've been fucking. Maybe a cup of coffee, a year or so ago. And that's it. I did once buy her drinks, barfined and banged her over 2 years ago when she was working, but just that once. That's how we initially met. I was mesmerized by that ass. Now all Monkeypaw is to her is a booty call and stress relief. We've been doing this twice every month since the first lockdown last year. Recently, one night, she told me she was bored and wanted to get a dog. I advised her not to because I personally thought, she wasn't capable of taking care of herself, much less a dog. Her place is like a hoarder's paradise, unkept, with stuff everywhere. She ended up getting a 2 month old Samoyed pup. She paraded it everywhere and showed it off like it was a prize. I messaged her that it wasn't a good idea because it came from a pet store and probably wasn't weaned off correctly from the mother. Puppies like that usually are kept away from other dogs until they finish all their vaccination boosters. She said it was fine and ignored me. A week or so later, the puppy was in the hospital and eventually died. I messaged her to see if she was okay. She did not respond. And since then, the girl never replied as if the puppy's death was somehow my fault. Maybe it's saving face. So no more freebies for me. Like I said, she's not the hottest, but at least she was free.
[QUOTE=XXL;2550802]In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days. A possible upgrade would be going bareback but there's a trade-off between barebacking and changing girls. Maybe if I could have my pick from any gogo line-up Thailand would be a satisfying mongering destination and not just a country where I can somehow get laid...[/QUOTE]When you say "difficult to have intercourse to completion" do you mean difficulty in getting it up, keeping it up and finishing (cumming) or do you just mean difficulty in finishing?
I have found too much boner drugs for too many days somehow works to prevent me from finishing (cumming). I'll still get a useful erection, but finishing eludes me. It is the only negative side-effect I have ever experienced from taking Sildenafil or Tadalifil. And that only from taking too much of it for too many days, imo.
If I cut back on the size of the dose or take a break from ingesting any for a day or two, all is back to normal by the third day and I can resume taking my usual dosage of whatever I was taking before, currently 100MG Sidegra bought from the pharmacy in Foodland on Sukhumvit Soi 5 in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=XXL;2550802]In spite of the Sildenafil I find it difficult to have intercourse to completion these days.[/QUOTE]Many years ago I sometimes used sildenafil and I sometimes used nothing. It made the erection stronger, but it also helped prevent finishing too soon. I wouldn't be surprised if sildenafil prevents some men from finishing.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2550912]100MG Sidegra bought from the pharmacy in Foodland on Sukhumvit Soi 5 in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]100 MG Sildenafil could raise the dead. It might be worth experimenting with dosage. I found that 25 MG (half a 50 MG pill) works best for me, I get enough of a boner to finish (often 2-3 pops), but not so much that I keep going past the point where I care for anything at all, sex included. Minimizes side effects too. More is not always better.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2550927]100 MG Sildenafil could raise the dead. It might be worth experimenting with dosage. I found that 25 MG (half a 50 MG pill) works best for me, I get enough of a boner to finish (often 2-3 pops), but not so much that I keep going past the point where I care for anything at all, sex included. Minimizes side effects too. More is not always better.[/QUOTE]Are you getting your Sildenafil from taking Sidegra, the Thai knock-off version of Viagra, or from genuine Viagra? I would be surprised if the claimed dosage and quality of effective ingredient in each were exactly the same. More likely that the 100 MG claim for the Sidegra tablet is closer to the 50 MG version of original genuine Viagra, if not less.
The Foodland pharmacy's best seller of this brand appears to be the 100 MG Sidregra (only 200 baht for a package of 4) as seems to be the case on the street vendor tables where I'm not sure I have seen the alternate 25 MG version on display very often.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2551034]Are you getting your Sildenafil from taking Sidegra, the Thai knock-off version of Viagra, or from genuine Viagra? I would be surprised if the claimed dosage and quality of effective ingredient in each were exactly the same. More likely that the 100 MG claim for the Sidegra tablet is closer to the 50 MG version of original genuine Viagra, if not less.
The Foodland pharmacy's best seller of this brand appears to be the 100 MG Sidregra (only 200 baht for a package of 4) as seems to be the case on the street vendor tables where I'm not sure I have seen the alternate 25 MG version on display very often.[/QUOTE]I never noticed much difference. Here I use Sidegra (from a pharmacy) or Kamagra (from the Indian sellers). It works alright, I get a stuffy nose etc. I also have some generic sildenafil I brought back from Brazil. In all my mongering life I never noticed any difference between the sildenafil I used from different sources, and believe me, I've sample a shitload of sources. The one I don't use is the jelly for I find the packaging messy and hard to break and I don't see the point of swallowing a dose of concentrated sugar on top of the sildenafil. When I said I didn't finish I mean I didn't cum. No problem when using my own hand right afterwards to "flush out" the sildenafil from my system though. Getting old has much to do with it, but the repetitiveness of sex with Thai girls during this lockdown period may be at fault. I think what I miss is the thrill of first walking down the street (soi 6), then going upstairs with the girl, plus the knowledge that I can interrupt the session with a girl any time, walk the street again and fuck another one before the sildenafil wears out. I also need a shot of caffein just before sex but that's easy to arrange. I fuck 7's here in Thailand, mostly regulars I've known for months. I was fucking 8's in Brazil with more racial variety and more new girls than in Thailand. I also had a high protein diet in Brazil and the climate was less consistently hot. My testosterone tends to drop in very hot climates. Admittedly, I've reached an age when I have to come to terms with the fact that mongering needs to take second place. Second place, but alas not vanish entirely. I would be unhappy in a country with no mongering opportunities whatsoever, and I risk becoming unhappy in a country with little to offer outside mongering opportunities.
[QUOTE=XXL;2551058]I never noticed much difference. Here I use Sidegra (from a pharmacy) or Kamagra (from the Indian sellers). It works alright, I get a stuffy nose etc. I also have some generic sildenafil I brought back from Brazil. In all my mongering life I never noticed any difference between the sildenafil I used from different sources, and believe me, I've sample a shitload of sources...[/QUOTE]Sure, as long as you are getting the active ingredient in your system it should work. My point was whether or not a 100 MG Sidegra tablet I bought from Foodland on Soi 5 in Bangkok could be accurately compared apples-to-apples to a genuine Pfiser Viagra tablet claiming 100 MG from a USA pharmacy or wherever in terms of potentcy, quality and kick.
I have my doubts.
The other night, I met up with XXL and Little Big Men at Surprise BBQ across from Beer Hub. I only ordered the deep fried onion rings because the Paw doesn't really eat meat. It's a conscience thing, plus they were bland as fuck with no flavor or seasoning at all. Just in case anybody is wondering. The conversation between the three of us somehow bounced to the topic about how cheap food actually is here, if you know where to look, and how to find it. I remember spending 300-1000 baht a meal or more, way back when. Thinking I was getting a bargain. Now I spend a fraction of that, with no quality lost at all. So nothing wrong with going cheap and saving so baht, as long the quality is still there. Since Gogo bars and entertainment venues are closed, Monkeypaw has some time to share some of my recent foodie adventures in Pattaya.
Original price - 230 baht for a large Margherita pizza.
Monkeypaw's price - 65 baht each, 130 baht for 2 and shared it with a couple of girls living in the same condo complex. Nothing better than pizza by the pool with girls, plus free handjob. Thank God the water is chlorinated because when it was all said and done, there was some stringy white goop floating around in the pool and it wasn't the cheese. I wonder if I am a Cheapie Charlie, smart and savvy, or just a smooth criminal?
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2550852]Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop. Now [/QUOTE]Memorizing ass it is. She probably blamed you for jinxing her puppy. I wouldn't really call that free sex though. You helped her open a store which she makes a living out of. If I did that I would expect the girl to be grateful and that type of service for her to get herself off as well would be the least I expect.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2551092]My point was whether or not a 100 MG Sidegra tablet I bought from Foodland on Soi 5 in Bangkok could be accurately compared apples-to-apples to a genuine Pfiser Viagra tablet claiming 100 MG from a USA pharmacy or wherever in terms of potentcy, quality and kick.[/QUOTE]I cannot specifically answer your question about the Sidegra, but I can say with confidence that the 2017 vintage Kamagra gel was inconsistent in performance. Some of them seemed to be weak while others packed a wallop. When I got home I used a laboratory scale to individually weigh about 30 gel packs and found big inconsistencies. I put my remaining stash in the trash. I've used many varieties of sildenafil tablets and all performed the same for me (Viagra, generic in USA, generic from Thailand, generic from Tijuana pharmacy).
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2551243]I've used many varieties of sildenafil tablets and all performed the same for me (Viagra, generic in USA, generic from Thailand, generic from Tijuana pharmacy).[/QUOTE]Would you say they all performed the same regardless of the claimed MG content? For example, did the 25MG version of one variety work just as fast, produce the same quality of erection and last just as long as, say, the 100MG version of another variety? And did that also happen for different (claimed) MG levels within the same variety or brand?
If so, I suppose there would be no reason to buy anything but the cheapest, lowest claimed MG dosage version on the market.
The (claimed) 100MG Sidegra I get from Foodland for 50 baht per tablet seems to work essentially the same for me all around as the most recent 25MG genuine Viagra tablet a visiting USA friend gave me from a USA pharmacy. I don't recall exactly how much he said it would have cost if he didn't have insurance coverage for it but I do remember it being a lot more than the equivalent of 50 baht. However, I did not get nearly the same results from the 25MG version of Sidegra I bought from the same Foodland pharmacy as I got from either the 25MG Viagra or the 100MG Sidegra.
I have also felt no difference between the Sidegra of the same claimed MG dosage I used to buy from Sukhumvit Road street vendors and the ones I now buy from the Foodland pharmacy. I buy them from Foodland now because they are cheaper there than most street vendors will match or beat.
Where I have occasionally experienced an inability to finish (cum) possibly due to an "overdose" of the drug is when I might have taken a 100MG Sidegra before 12 Noon on a planned afternoon ST that didn't happen for whatever reason but did hook up with a girl much later that night and thought the previous dose had worn off enough to warrant another hit or half of one. Most of the time that doesn't matter and things proceed quite well to a fine finish. But sometimes not.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2551312]Would you say they all performed the same regardless of the claimed MG content? For example, did the 25 MG version of one variety work just as fast, produce the same quality of erection and last just as long as the 100 MG version of another variety? And did that also happen for different (claimed) MG levels within the same variety or brand?
.[/QUOTE]How could 25mg of anything ever have the same effect as 100mg of the same? Someone who told me "you should buy Sildenafil A (100mg) because it is better than Sildenafil B (50mg)" I would call a nitwit.
I always buy 100 MG tablets which I cut and grind to size as I want. I can't synthesize the active ingredients but I take care of the milligrams myself. If they had 500 MG I would buy those. I do the same with antibiotics or any drug I buy in bulk, not only because it comes out cheaper but because I want my stash to appear small when I cross borders. The less conspicuous they are in my luggage the better.
What I thought I could have noticed is that I got a slight headache with the Kamagra tablets and not with Sidegra. This is a more serious matter as it could mean the Kamagras are less pure. But I haven't been popping enough Sidegras to make up my mind about this. Purity is the thing to worry about, not strength.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2551243]I cannot specifically answer your question about the Sidegra, but I can say with confidence that the 2017 vintage Kamagra gel was inconsistent in performance. Some of them seemed to be weak while others packed a wallop. When I got home I used a laboratory scale to individually weigh about 30 gel packs and found big inconsistencies. I put my remaining stash in the trash. I've used many varieties of sildenafil tablets and all performed the same for me (Viagra, generic in USA, generic from Thailand, generic from Tijuana pharmacy).[/QUOTE]
Also, I didn't see the gel acting any faster. There's a tale about it being absorbed sub-lingual rather than further down the digestive system but I never saw any serious paper on that. Besides, depending on how well the pack broke you could retrieve 90% of it or only 60%. Gel packs are just a gimmick.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2551221]Memorizing ass it is. She probably blamed you for jinxing her puppy. I wouldn't really call that free sex though. You helped her open a store which she makes a living out of. If I did that I would expect the girl to be grateful and that type of service for her to get herself off as well would be the least I expect.[/QUOTE]"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.
[QUOTE=XXL;2551322]How could 25mg of anything ever have the same effect as 100mg of the same? Someone who told me "you should buy Sildenafil A (100mg) because it is better than Sildenafil B (50mg)" I would call a nitwit..[/QUOTE]Ah, but that assumes every claimed MG dosage and the quality of active ingredient produced and applied to every knock-off version of these drugs that you and I have taken is true and exactly the same quality regardless of the source region or manufacturer. That seemed to be the assumption made by others here and why I followed up with comments and questions about it.
I don't assume such a thing. I suspect a tablet with a claim of, say, 100MG of this or that from factories in India, China or even Thailand is not likely to really have that much in it and what is in it is probably not as high quality and potent as that from other better regulated and monitored sources. When I pop a 100MG Sidegra tablet I suspect the volume and quality or effectiveness of it is probably about the same as if I popped a 25MG genuine Pfizer Viagra tablet. Feels that way to me anyway.
And that is why I am comfortable with taking 100MG of one while I might only take 25MG of another. I consider the source. IME, it matters.
I have taken knock-off junk claiming to provide 50-100MG of the active ingredient that produced no better result than if I'd taken a sugar pill. Which is what it might have been.
Storage issues? A bad batch? Yes, those factors can alter results as well. And the bad batch issue also pertains to one factory source over another.
I should say the biggest variance in terms of quality vs junk that I have experienced involved Tadalafil (Cialis) products and not Sildenafil (Viagra) products though.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2551351]...
I should say the biggest variance in terms of quality vs junk that I have experienced involved Tadalafil (Cialis) products and not Sildenafil (Viagra) products though.[/QUOTE]That must be because Cialis is still a rarer and more expensive product (patent not yet expired I think), therefore more incentive to cheat customers (more fake cocaine than fake meth around).
If Sidegra is weaker than its label that would explain why I got no headache from it. It would also explain why Kamagra is more popular in Thailand.
I bought some knock-off Levitra. It worked but I have no guarantee it was not simply sildenafil since both last nearly as long.
I can't sleep on Cialis (I see sparks in my head). Very strange side-effect.
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2551221]Memorizing ass it is. She probably blamed you for jinxing her puppy. I wouldn't really call that free sex though. You helped her open a store which she makes a living out of. If I did that I would expect the girl to be grateful and that type of service for her to get herself off as well would be the least I expect.[/QUOTE]It doesn't sound like he helped her financially. Probably moving stuff, organizing, maybe marketing? Something you might do with the hopes of free poon, but not necessarily expecting.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551343]"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.[/QUOTE]The body's great and underwear looks good too.
Too many girls in Thailand still doesn't understand the importance of wearing sexy underwear.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2550852] She ended up getting a 2 month old Samoyed pup. She paraded it everywhere and showed it off like it was a prize. I messaged her that it wasn't a good idea because it came from a pet store and probably wasn't weaned off correctly from the mother. Puppies like that usually are kept away from other dogs until they finish all their vaccination boosters. She said it was fine and ignored me. A week or so later, the puppy was in the hospital and eventually died. I messaged her to see if she was okay. She did not respond. And since then, the girl never replied as if the puppy's death was somehow my fault. Maybe it's saving face. So no more freebies for me. Like I said, she's not the hottest, but at least she was free.[/QUOTE]Poor dog, it looks big for a puppy. What kind of people can even think of getting such a dog in a country as hot as Thailand?
It reminds me of a kind of condo I was staying in Bangkok where the owner had 2 dogs staying there permanently, one big retriever kind of dog and another small one with a lot of hairs. Each time I went there to pay my room fee the place was really stinking badly, owners didn't look like they were realizing how much the odor was bad. Anyway that Samoyan puppy was very unlucky to be dependent on such a girl.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551343]"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.[/QUOTE]Best practice is to use Face photo when trying to impress strangers over the internet.
Would anyone like a link to see what a Real 500 baht Thai girl looks like?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2551312]Would you say they all performed the same regardless of the claimed MG content? For example, did the 25MG version of one variety work just as fast, produce the same quality of erection and last just as long as, say, the 100MG version of another variety? And did that also happen for different (claimed) MG levels within the same variety or brand?.[/QUOTE]I've only bought the 100 MG tablets since about 2010, that's when I discovered the price for 25 MG, 50 MG, and 100 MG is about the same. When traveling, I bring a pill cutter. When home, I cut with a razor blade. Generic sildenafil is quite inexpensive in USA and I'm confident it performs the same as Viagra. Next trip I'll bring enough so I don't need to buy any in Thailand.
[QUOTE=XXL;2551322]What I thought I could have noticed is that I got a slight headache with the Kamagra tablets and not with Sidegra. This is a more serious matter as it could mean the Kamagras are less pure. But I haven't been popping enough Sidegras to make up my mind about this. Purity is the thing to worry about, not strength.
Also, I didn't see the gel acting any faster. There's a tale about it being absorbed sub-lingual rather than further down the digestive system but I never saw any serious paper on that. Besides, depending on how well the pack broke you could retrieve 90% of it or only 60%. Gel packs are just a gimmick.[/QUOTE]The Kamagra gel consistently gave me more headache than any other sildenafil, I also question purity. I agree that the gel is no faster than the tablet. Taking that stuff is not easy: clean the package, cut the package, suck out the gel. I'm sure I can get 90+% out, but I don't know how to get 50% out. I see zero advantage of Kamagra gel over tablets.
[QUOTE=XXL;2551358]
I bought some knock-off Levitra. It worked but I have no guarantee it was not simply sildenafil since both last nearly as long.[/QUOTE]In February 2020 I bought a 4-pack of the largest dosage name brand Levitra sold at a street vendor on Sukhumvit near Soi 11. I tried it on two occasions and I had zero nasty side effects. I also didn't get a decent boner. Both Viagra and Cialis (and generics) work for me, but both have nasty side effects.
Has Levitra been effective for you? Perhaps my Levitra was fake stuff in a knock off box.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2551628]In February 2020 I bought a 4-pack of the largest dosage name brand Levitra sold at a street vendor on Sukhumvit near Soi 11. I tried it on two occasions and I had zero nasty side effects. I also didn't get a decent boner. Both Viagra and Cialis (and generics) work for me, but both have nasty side effects.
Has Levitra been effective for you? Perhaps my Levitra was fake stuff in a knock off box.[/QUOTE]You can't buy the real Levitra in Thailand anymore, there is some problem with the manufacturer (Bayer) not exporting to Thailand. Everything you buy on the street is counterfeit but it does work for me. The pills on the street are twice as thick as the real Levitra. The maximum strength Levitra is 20 MG but on the street the package says 100 MG. I buy the bottle of 30 tablets for 600 baht. I cut them in half and its' an adequate dosage unless I'm drunk then it takes a full tablet. When I used to buy brand Levitra I only needed a quarter of a 20 MG tablet.
Couldn't agree with you more, every time I ask a girl to undress always ask to keep her underwear on. Most times fuck her missionary / doggie / cowboy while she is still wearing it, gives me a kick. I just slip my snake from the side. Nothing better than a girl wearing a sexy 'bra and panty'.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2551451]The body's great and underwear looks good too.
Too many girls in Thailand still doesn't understand the importance of wearing sexy underwear.[/QUOTE]
Those buns look really nice and tempting. Nice shape too though I also prefer a little bit of a cup shaped ass cheeks but what really matters is the hole in the bun.
Hehehehe.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551343]"Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop."
Key words in the quote were "not named Monkeypaw. " The only thing I helped her open up is her legs, ass cheeks, and pussy. And the only store was her dimly lit hole as a place to hide my cock. But referring to her ass, many guys like that type of ass and shape. For me, although it's better than most, I still prefer more a bit lift in my asses, rather than sag. And I definitely prefer a bit more rounder versus the upside down heart shape. See pic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2551628]Has Levitra been effective for you? Perhaps my Levitra was fake stuff in a knock off box.[/QUOTE]No reason Levitra should not work. I tried patented Levitra when it came on the market years ago. I didn't like it as much as Sildenafil because it was weaker and lasted a bit less (3 hours rather than 4-5 hours with Sildenafil). Plus, it was 3 times as expensive. But again, the Levitra I have from Thailand could be plain old Sildenafil couldn't it?
[QUOTE=XXL;2551674]No reason Levitra should not work. I tried patented Levitra when it came on the market years ago. I didn't like it as much as Sildenafil because it was weaker and lasted a bit less (3 hours rather than 4-5 hours with Sildenafil). Plus, it was 3 times as expensive. But again, the Levitra I have from Thailand could be plain old Sildenafil couldn't it?[/QUOTE]This pdf from Bayer may help you decide if the Levitra is Brand or fake.
[URL]https://www.bayer.com/sites/default/files/br-levitra-englisch.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2551677]This pdf from Bayer may help you decide if the Levitra is Brand or fake.
[URL]https://www.bayer.com/sites/default/files/br-levitra-englisch.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]I never doubted the Levitra I bought was not the Bayer product. I bought it from a street vendor on Beach Road. All the same, it could have been genuine Vardenafil.
I have been using boner pills nearly every single day of late. Not sure whether 100% safe. There is a warning about hearing loss with sildenafil.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551145]The other night, I met up with XXL and Little Big Men at Surprise BBQ across from Beer Hub. I only ordered the deep fried onion rings because the Paw doesn't really eat meat. It's a conscience thing, plus they were bland as fuck with no flavor or seasoning at all. Just in case anybody is wondering. The conversation between the three of us somehow bounced to the topic about how cheap food actually is here, if you know where to look, and how to find it. I remember spending 300-1000 baht a meal or more, way back when. Thinking I was getting a bargain. Now I spend a fraction of that, with no quality lost at all. So nothing wrong with going cheap and saving so baht, as long the quality is still there. Since Gogo bars and entertainment venues are closed, Monkeypaw has some time to share some of my recent foodie adventures in Pattaya.
Original price - 230 baht for a large Margherita pizza.[/QUOTE]Was strolling around hungry at Soi 6 during dinner time around 6. All the girlie bars where closed because of the mayor's order for entertainment venues to shut down. While I was merrily walking, I saw a slim bar girl dashed across the street to a food vendor car, out of the corner of my eye. It was like a giant black cat making a quick dash. Funny thing was the girl was still dressed in her bar outfit, boobs hanging out and tight ass shorts, as if she was working. I walked by her "closed up" shop and could hear music, some chatter, and giggling. I think they were streaming live again, but with doors shut. She was decent enough looking, so I asked about some fun, promising not to tattle tell to the police that they were working behind closed doors. She told me 1000 for everything including the room. Cheap cheap for me because I agreed. She told cart lady to hold onto the brown soupy porky noodle thing until she came back. The girl brought me indoors and upstairs for a shower and quick fuck and suck. The room was dimly lit in all blue, which you should know by now, is Monkeypaw's favorite color. For the title of Soi 6 Aficionado, who can name this Soi 6 bar from the pics? When she was gargling my jizz from her mouth, and spitting my babies down the sink, I asked her how much she got to keep from that 1000. She said only 600 and asked for a tip. I said "no," I need my money for pizza. I'm so hungry! How convenient, Soi 6, at 6, and for 600. Mark of the beast!
Onwards ho to Slice Pizza nearby! 125 baht for a Bacon Supreme 9 inch (hold the bacon). Buy 1 get 1 Free. Plus 60 baht off voucher So 2 Bacon Supreme 9 inch pizza minus the bacon (my choice) came out to 65 baht for both.
And yes, the Slice Pizza staff looked at me funny, as if I just robbed them when I picked up my order. Here comes the kicker. They must have not been able to read English too well and kept the bacon on. I just carried it away, took a photo, picked off the bacon, fed it to some soi dogs, and ate my pizzas while relaxing on the beach sidewalk. I was munching away and staring at all the sweaty people exercising up, down, up, down. When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund. So the pizzas were free, plus I made a positive 35 baht. What a lucky day! Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?
Sorry about the interruption. And Now, Back to Our Regularly Scheduled Programming.
[QUOTE=XXL;2551674]No reason Levitra should not work. I tried patented Levitra when it came on the market years ago. I didn't like it as much as Sildenafil because it was weaker and lasted a bit less (3 hours rather than 4-5 hours with Sildenafil). Plus, it was 3 times as expensive. But again, the Levitra I have from Thailand could be plain old Sildenafil couldn't it?[/QUOTE]Per my 14 month old memory, the Levitra I bought on Sukhumvit looked exactly the same as the pictures from XXL. It didn't help the erection or give headache so I don't think it was sildenafil. Package looks different than link from Houston Player. I think I bought fake Levitra.
Based on this information and nasty side effects from other meds, I'm going to ask my doctor for a Levitra prescription and I'll fill it at a USA pharmacy.
Thanks for the good information.
I have never seen so many grannie panties as in Thailand.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2551668]Couldn't agree with you more, every time I ask a girl to undress always ask to keep her underwear on. Most times fuck her missionary / doggie / cowboy while she is still wearing it, gives me a kick. I just slip my snake from the side. Nothing better than a girl wearing a sexy 'bra and panty'.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2551757]Per my 14 month old memory, the Levitra I bought on Sukhumvit looked exactly the same as the pictures from XXL. It didn't help the erection or give headache so I don't think it was sildenafil. Package looks different than link from Houston Player. I think I bought fake Levitra.
Based on this information and nasty side effects from other meds, I'm going to ask my doctor for a Levitra prescription and I'll fill it at a USA pharmacy.
Thanks for the good information.[/QUOTE]Fresh update. After my post about these Levitras I decided to try one out again today. It worked very well, better than I recollected from previous uses. I may try to buy more but I don't remember if I got it from Bangkok or Pattaya.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2551669]Those buns look really nice and tempting. Nice shape too though I also prefer a little bit of a cup shaped ass cheeks but what really matters is the hole in the bun.
Hehehehe.[/QUOTE]Not sure what cup shape ass do you mean. Inverted V? For the Paw, it's round and a tad of heart, blend.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551704]When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund.[/QUOTE]
Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2552083]Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.[/QUOTE]I personally really enjoy reading MonkeyPaw's posts. For one he's actually sharing information on the ground as much as anyone else here is. And his writing style is pretty good too. If you think that's stealing then my god you must be one truly virtuous person. I'll bet you don't sleep with any Thai girls for money because that would be taking advantage of them. But oh wait, obviously you're not forcing them to sleep with you it's their decision so it's fine right? Well by that logic the customer support didn't have to refund MonkeyPaw it was their choice too. Isn't it that simple? And did they not actually mess up his order or did you forget that part? Was the restaurant not the one which decided to offer coupons? Also, how do you know the financials of that particular restaurant to know they're barely scraping by? Or are you one of those people that just lumps groups together? Why don't you just donate all your money if you're such a great believer in equality? How about instead of worrying about MonkeyPaw eating pizza you worry about the billionaires out there that are the biggest thieves of all? Rant over.
I'll be out of quarantine on the 20th, staying in Bangkok for a week, and in Pattaya on the 27th where I already have a condo rented for a month. MonkeyPaw I'd love to meet up at some point and have you teach me your ways.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2552083]Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.[/QUOTE]He does not eat meat so he ordered the pizza without bacon. The pizza came with bacon anyway so he complained to the vendor. The vendor gave him a refund. He has not said that he requested a refund or not.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2552083]Really? Is stealing food from restaurants at the time they're barely scraping by something to brag about? I thought this was a monger forum, not a petty thief forum.
Being cheap is fine, I'm frugal too. Stealing is not.
As an aside, is this the same psycho who was at one point bragging about offering girls tens of thousands of baht to do stuff they'd rather not do, and said they wouldn't do? I recall something along those lines. Apologize to mr. Petty Thief if that was someone else.[/QUOTE]How's it stealing if THEY'RE the ones that got the order wrong? He specifically said no bacon. To me, it's the other way around: it's robbery if you're charged for something you didn't order. And he didn't order the bacon.
If you're saying it's only 100 baht, and he should just eat the loss since he's well off, that's wrong, too. He can do that if he so chooses. But nobody should be expected to pay for something they didn't order.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2552114]How's it stealing if THEY'RE the ones that got the order wrong? He specifically said no bacon. To me, it's the other way around: it's robbery if you're charged for something you didn't order. And he didn't order the bacon.
If you're saying it's only 100 baht, and he should just eat the loss since he's well off, that's wrong, too. He can do that if he so chooses. But nobody should be expected to pay for something they didn't order.[/QUOTE]He gave the bacon to the dogs and ate the pizza but lied that he was a Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because they had been contaminated by the bacon and thus couldn't eat them. They got the order wrong but he cheated them out of the 100 baht since he ate the pizzas..
Monger friend, I am not a fan of granny panties. It needs to be slick and sexy.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2551769]I have never seen so many grannie panties as in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
I am a sucker of heart and round shaped ass and a licker of all, let them come in, hehehehehehe.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2552023]Not sure what cup shape ass do you mean. Inverted V? For the Paw, it's round and a tad of heart, blend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2552149]He gave the bacon to the dogs and ate the pizza but lied that he was a Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because they had been contaminated by the bacon and thus couldn't eat them. They got the order wrong but he cheated them out of the 100 baht since he ate the pizzas..[/QUOTE]My bad. I missed the part where he actually ate the pizza. If you're going to make a stink about the order, you can't make it after you eat your meal! OP obviously enjoyed the meal enough to finish it.
[QUOTE=Cohend386;2552095]I personally really enjoy reading MonkeyPaw's posts. For one he's actually sharing information on the ground as much as anyone else here is. And his writing style is pretty good too. If you think that's stealing then my god you must be one truly virtuous person. I'll bet you don't sleep with any Thai girls for money because that would be taking advantage of them. But oh wait, obviously you're not forcing them to sleep with you it's their decision so it's fine right? Well by that logic the customer support didn't have to refund MonkeyPaw it was their choice too. Isn't it that simple? And did they not actually mess up his order or did you forget that part? Was the restaurant not the one which decided to offer coupons? Also, how do you know the financials of that particular restaurant to know they're barely scraping by? Or are you one of those people that just lumps groups together? Why don't you just donate all your money if you're such a great believer in equality? How about instead of worrying about MonkeyPaw eating pizza you worry about the billionaires out there that are the biggest thieves of all? Rant over.
I'll be out of quarantine on the 20th, staying in Bangkok for a week, and in Pattaya on the 27th where I already have a condo rented for a month. MonkeyPaw I'd love to meet up at some point and have you teach me your ways.[/QUOTE]He ate the pizza and lied that he gave it away. That's a scumbag move to cheat a restaurant after paying $2 for two 9 in pizzas. And yes, I call it cheating because he actually ate the pizzas. Then calls himself a smooth criminal!
I don't care how much pussy you're getting. If your idea of smooth is to cheat a restaurant out of $2 after eating your fill, you do not sound like a person I'd enjoy company with. My quality of life will literally be better not knowing such people.
I don't think there's anything wrong with complaining about the order being incorrect. If he just took a picture of it and, sent a complaint WITHOUT lying that he threw it out, and they refunded him, I wouldn't have an issue with that. But that's obviously not the case here.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551704]When Monkeypaw was done, satisfied, and full, I made a quick complaint to customer service on the food app about how I was Muslim and had to give away the pizzas because of the bacon. Eventually, the Paw got a 100 baht refund. So the pizzas were free, plus I made a positive 35 baht. What a lucky day! Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?[/QUOTE]Cheap Charlie, no. Smart and Savvy, no. Smooth Criminal, no. It was the first thing you said. Customer Service. Funny how everyone except the owner of the pizza shop has a problem with it. The owner could have easily said bring the pizza back and you will get a refund. They did not. To me it seems the owner was saying sorry we fucked the pizza up. The next one will be on us or here is 100 baht. The pizzas would have went in the trash anyway.
A few months ago I ordered some TVs and shit off Amazon. They thought it was fraud so they kept canceling the order. Finally I received my regular order, but it was accompanied by a couple of things from the canceled order. I called them but for some reason there was no record of it. They told me to just keep the stuff. Eventually it showed up on my bill but there was still no record on my Amazon account. (The finance company is different from Amazon.) Amazon told me to still keep the stuff, but they would also refund the money. It was like $360. And they do that kind of shit all of the time. If something is late or shown delivered but not at my house, they give me a refund and say if it ever shows up then just do what you want to with it. Excellent customer service; just like the pizza place.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552388]Cheap Charlie, no. Smart and Savvy, no. Smooth Criminal, no. It was the first thing you said. Customer Service. Funny how everyone except the owner of the pizza shop has a problem with it. The owner could have easily said bring the pizza back and you will get a refund. They did not. To me it seems the owner was saying sorry we fucked the pizza up. The next one will be on us or here is 100 baht. The pizzas would have went in the trash anyway.
A few months ago I ordered some TVs and shit off Amazon. They thought it was fraud so they kept canceling the order. Finally I received my regular order, but it was accompanied by a couple of things from the canceled order. I called them but for some reason there was no record of it. They told me to just keep the stuff. Eventually it showed up on my bill but there was still no record on my Amazon account. (The finance company is different from Amazon.) Amazon told me to still keep the stuff, but they would also refund the money. It was like $360. And they do that kind of shit all of the time. If something is late or shown delivered but not at my house, they give me a refund and say if it ever shows up then just do what you want to with it. Excellent customer service; just like the pizza place.[/QUOTE]Good point, Mr. E. When OP mentioned a refund via the app, I was thinking grub hub or postmates kind of an app where the refund is issued without owner's approval. But if the store itself issued the refund, they're probably acknowledging their mistake. I still think it was a douche move to lie about throwing the pizza away just to get a $2 refund. The result would probably have been the same without lying.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2552398]Good point, Mr. E. When OP mentioned a refund via the app, I was thinking grub hub or postmates kind of an app where the refund is issued without owner's approval. But if the store itself issued the refund, they're probably acknowledging their mistake. I still think it was a douche move to lie about throwing the pizza away just to get a $2 refund. The result would probably have been the same without lying.[/QUOTE]Just say the pizzas had bacon on them, and I asked for no bacon. I have had my orders messed up before. The wrong order or items missing. I contacted the delivery service, and they immediately issued refunds, either for the whole order, or for items that were missing. And I could keep and eat whatever I may have received. No need to lie about it, like you're trying to get one over on them. Douchebag move!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552388]A few months ago I ordered some TVs and shit off Amazon. They thought it was fraud so they kept canceling the order. Finally I received my regular order, but it was accompanied by a couple of things from the canceled order. I called them but for some reason there was no record of it. They told me to just keep the stuff. Eventually it showed up on my bill but there was still no record on my Amazon account. (The finance company is different from Amazon.) Amazon told me to still keep the stuff, but they would also refund the money. It was like $360. And they do that kind of shit all of the time. If something is late or shown delivered but not at my house, they give me a refund and say if it ever shows up then just do what you want to with it. Excellent customer service; just like the pizza place.[/QUOTE]Most supplier and especially huge operations like Amazon are set up for goods to flow only one way: supplier to buyer. Trying to get a $100 part the other way causes chaos and just isn't worth the effort. They will either wear the loss or just dump it into a returns hopper and 1000 hoppers will be auctioned at the end of the month.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2552214]Monger friend, I am not a fan of granny panties. It needs to be slick and sexy.[/QUOTE]Not sure about that. I love a pleasant surprise.
Many times I've unwrapped jeans and a tee shirt to unveil a bikini model underneath. 😁.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2552398]Good point, Mr. E. When OP mentioned a refund via the app, I was thinking grub hub or postmates kind of an app where the refund is issued without owner's approval. But if the store itself issued the refund, they're probably acknowledging their mistake. I still think it was a douche move to lie about throwing the pizza away just to get a $2 refund. The result would probably have been the same without lying.[/QUOTE]My take on this is unlike many of the posters here MP provides some interesting intel if not the location of his finds but at least there are pics so you can gauge the quality of available women for your own hunts. As to his other claims, I call him a unintended comedian, like how hilarious is someone who initially overpays gogo girls by 50-100%, then claims that he can GET these girls due to him having uber game (now he only needs to pay the going rate), how hilarious is someone who after overpaying for women by hundreds of dollars is now a master manipulator because he managed to game some cheap pizzas worth a few bucks, claims to be special and having VIP status due to being in his 30's but still living on daddies dime (though from recent postings daddy may have cut his allowance).
Overall great entertainment so please give him some slack so he con continue his joking.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2552424]Most supplier and especially huge operations like Amazon are set up for goods to flow only one way: supplier to buyer. Trying to get a $100 part the other way causes chaos and just isn't worth the effort. They will either wear the loss or just dump it into a returns hopper and 1000 hoppers will be auctioned at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552442]I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.[/QUOTE]Many people make a job of buying those totes for resale.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2552424]Most supplier and especially huge operations like Amazon are set up for goods to flow only one way: supplier to buyer. Trying to get a $100 part the other way causes chaos and just isn't worth the effort. They will either wear the loss or just dump it into a returns hopper and 1000 hoppers will be auctioned at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Amazon's built for scale. I ordered the wrong USB cable once, about $7. I started a return process, stating I ordered the wrong item. They issued a refund and just said to keep the cable.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2552426]Not sure about that. I love a pleasant surprise.
Many times I've unwrapped jeans and a tee shirt to unveil a bikini model underneath. 😁.[/QUOTE]Big difference between jeans / tee shirt and granny panties. And he's probably talking about the unpleasant surprise, the square butts.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2552432]My take on this is unlike many of the posters here MP provides some interesting intel if not the location of his finds but at least there are pics so you can gauge the quality of available women for your own hunts. As to his other claims, I call him a unintended comedian, like how hilarious is someone who initially overpays gogo girls by 50-100%, then claims that he can GET these girls due to him having uber game (now he only needs to pay the going rate), how hilarious is someone who after overpaying for women by hundreds of dollars is now a master manipulator because he managed to game some cheap pizzas worth a few bucks, claims to be special and having VIP status due to being in his 30's but still living on daddies dime (though from recent postings daddy may have cut his allowance).
Overall great entertainment so please give him some slack so he con continue his joking.[/QUOTE]LMAO! That's way too funny!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552442]I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.[/QUOTE]Wow every week. I made 82 Amazon orders in 2020 many of multiple items like the order I made the other day for 8 different items. I have only asked to return 3 items with Amazon 2 of which Amazon told me to just keep the item and they would send me a refund. Both those items were under $15 US. The 3rd item I decided just to eat the loss. Gave it away to my buddy. Too lazy to pack it up and send back.
I do return lots of things I buy at brick and mortar shops though.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2552432](now he only needs to pay the going rate)[/QUOTE]
Curious what rate you were paying a good looking brand new gogo girl at an A Class gogo bar like Palace, Pin Up, Baccara, etc. pre COVID the night you meet them. I don't think it's that easy paying less than what the bar is asking on a good looking girl's first night/week at a gogo. I personally don't pay barfines but rather meet up with girls on their days off but if I met a hot girl on her first night I doubt I could get a lower price than the going rate.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2552114]How's it stealing if THEY'RE the ones that got the order wrong? He specifically said no bacon. To me, it's the other way around: it's robbery if you're charged for something you didn't order. And he didn't order the bacon.
If you're saying it's only 100 baht, and he should just eat the loss since he's well off, that's wrong, too. He can do that if he so chooses. But nobody should be expected to pay for something they didn't order.[/QUOTE]Think of all the times those sneaky Thais have ripped you off. The bar girls, the tuk-tuk drivers and those street vendors all out to steal from tourists. Monkey Paw is just doing his bit to even the score.
On another note, why does Monkey Paw always refer to himself in third person? Hardly a way to endear himself to fellow mongers. Someone should tell him it makes him look like a tosser.
[QUOTE=Cohend386;2552095]I personally really enjoy reading MonkeyPaw's posts. For one he's actually sharing information on the ground as much as anyone else here is. And his writing style is pretty good too. If you think that's stealing then my god you must be one truly virtuous person. I'll bet you don't sleep with any Thai girls for money because that would be taking advantage of them. But oh wait, obviously you're not forcing them to sleep with you it's their decision so it's fine right? Well by that logic the customer support didn't have to refund MonkeyPaw it was their choice too. Isn't it that simple? And did they not actually mess up his order or did you forget that part? Was the restaurant not the one which decided to offer coupons? Also, how do you know the financials of that particular restaurant to know they're barely scraping by? Or are you one of those people that just lumps groups together? Why don't you just donate all your money if you're such a great believer in equality? How about instead of worrying about MonkeyPaw eating pizza you worry about the billionaires out there that are the biggest thieves of all? Rant over.
I'll be out of quarantine on the 20th, staying in Bangkok for a week, and in Pattaya on the 27th where I already have a condo rented for a month. MonkeyPaw I'd love to meet up at some point and have you teach me your ways.[/QUOTE]I think we are still locked down then. But hey if you got the guts, I've got the glory. I've always left an open seat for those who are brave and don't need to hide behind a screen name. So props to guys like Banana Boi, XXL, LittleBigMen, FL Hawk, RacShack, Beavis from back in the days of Nuevo Laredo (when I was just a cherry boy), and the countless others who have took the leap of faith, even Mr. E of all people! Perhaps, I missed the follow up postings where any of them said, we met up, party, chilled and Monkeypaw was a big disappointment.
That's a great one. I also look forward to that and always wish the same when I am stripping them off.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2552426]Not sure about that. I love a pleasant surprise.
Many times I've unwrapped jeans and a tee shirt to unveil a bikini model underneath..[/QUOTE]
Square butts are a big no no for me even though I'll take them any day of the week. What can I say.
Round is perfect for me and most preferred but what matters most in all of them are the '2 love caves'.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2552466]Exactly. Amazon's built for scale. I ordered the wrong USB cable once, about $7. I started a return process, stating I ordered the wrong item. They issued a refund and just said to keep the cable.
Big difference between jeans / tee shirt and granny panties. And he's probably talking about the unpleasant surprise, the square butts.
LMAO! That's way too funny![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2552507]Think of all the times those sneaky Thais have ripped you off. The bar girls, the tuk-tuk drivers and those street vendors all out to steal from tourists. Monkey Paw is just doing his bit to even the score.
On another note, why does Monkey Paw always refer to himself in third person? Hardly a way to endear himself to fellow mongers. Someone should tell him it makes him look like a tosser.[/QUOTE]Monkeypaw is the alter ego of me when it comes to hobbying. He is not me, but it allows me to do what I need to do. You are Engine Driver on here, but are you Engine Driver when you are in the company of close family? Or do you take on another persona? When that part of you gets really angry and rages, is that you as well? You see why some members say he is really different in person, but has his moments? Back in the days, there was a sex escort site called "eccie" and it was coed. Imagine if girls or escorts or providers where able to post on this site as well. If you ever want to see how the "Monkeypaw" persona was born and where did all the badassness came from, Google is your friend. Just type in the site and Monkeypaw and enjoy the history lesson. If still confused afterwards, think the movie "Split. " And if still confused after that, there is still an open seat in Pattaya available.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR-oZ3s-0Jk[/URL]
"Split".
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2552541]Square butts are a big no no for me even though I'll take them any day of the week. What can I say.
Round is perfect for me and most preferred but what matters most in all of them are the '2 love caves'.[/QUOTE]There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".
No ass is worse. I wish I was back in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2552617]There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with being Frugal. And Fair.
I wonder if those who claim to get things on discount just are Skint. Always have been always will be.
It's a mindset.
Scamming Thais? Come on.
I notice Svammers are always Broke. Coincidence or not.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552491]Wow every week. I made 82 Amazon orders in 2020 many of multiple items like the order I made the other day for 8 different items. I have only asked to return 3 items with Amazon 2 of which Amazon told me to just keep the item and they would send me a refund. Both those items were under $15 US. The 3rd item I decided just to eat the loss. Gave it away to my buddy. Too lazy to pack it up and send back.
I do return lots of things I buy at brick and mortar shops though..[/QUOTE]No discount for you. Maybe a little one OK depends on girl feeling.
Whenever you hear things that sound off there usually a Backstory not being told. Ex. Girl is old fat and toothless. China Town full of these so don't laugh. They do get customers.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2552536]I think we are still locked down then. But hey if you got the guts, I've got the glory. I've always left an open seat for those who are brave and don't need to hide behind a screen name. So props to guys like Banana Boi, XXL, LittleBigMen, FL Hawk, RacShack, Beavis from back in the days of Nuevo Laredo (when I was just a cherry boy), and the countless others who have took the leap of faith, even Mr. E of all people! Perhaps, I missed the follow up postings where any of them said, we met up, party, chilled and Monkeypaw was a big disappointment.[/QUOTE]I missed the posts were they said they love to be your best buds forever. Hahaha.
I always worry when someone writes about themselves in utmost Glorification terms.
I missed many in the music industry saying Van Halen was a darn good guy. LOL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2552442]I send stuff back to them about every week. Likewise I look for things that others have sent back that I can buy at a discounted price.[/QUOTE]LOL, is that why you send stuff back every week, because you buy stuff that other people have sent back. Hope you've learnt from past mistakes.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2552654]Whenever you hear things that sound off there usually a Backstory not being told. Ex. Girl is old fat and toothless. China Town full of these so don't laugh. They do get customers.[/QUOTE]Where exactly is "China Town" in Pattaya where there are P4P girls? My post was about Pattaya and this is the Pattaya forum so I am assuming your response is about Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2552654]No discount for you. Maybe a little one OK depends on girl feeling.[/QUOTE]
Which new top tier gogo girl have you received a discount from? From which gogo bar? It doesn't happen no matter what anyone here tries to claim. At bar beers and maybe Soi 6 but certainly not an new 'A' grade gogo girl from a top tier gogo bar.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552777]Where exactly is "China Town" in Pattaya where there are P4P girls? My post was about Pattaya and this is the Pattaya forum so I am assuming your response is about Pattaya.
Which new top tier gogo girl have you received a discount from? From which gogo bar? It doesn't happen no matter what anyone here tries to claim. At bar beers and maybe Soi 6 but certainly not an new 'A' grade gogo girl from a top tier gogo bar.[/QUOTE]Being Chinese, the closes thing to Chinatown is past the Fish Market down on Naklua, if one is familiar with sterotyples old-style Chinese stores you will see just across from the market a few herbal stores that sell tea, etc the walls are lined with those little boxes familiar in many Chinatown store prior to their gentrification. Across the market, behind the 7/11 is the area they hold the Chinese Vegetarian and Moon festival yearly as for pussy nothing standout to buy but I'm sure you can find working girls visiting the events?
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I don't know if we are all seeing the same ads on ISG. But isn't the ass just amazing? I call it a checkmate.
Absolutely but then there is also alcohol.
Heheheheheheh.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2552617]There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".[/QUOTE]
Yes always in the long run, in the short run they will leave everyone else behind. Perfect case of the hare and tortoise.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2552642]Nothing wrong with being Frugal. And Fair.
I wonder if those who claim to get things on discount just are Skint. Always have been always will be.
It's a mindset.
Scamming Thais? Come on.
I notice Svammers are always Broke. Coincidence or not.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2552507]On another note, why does Monkey Paw always refer to himself in third person? Hardly a way to endear himself to fellow mongers. Someone should tell him it makes him look like a tosser.[/QUOTE]It is called narcissistic personality disorder; and most commonly found in the likes of actors, athletes, and rock stars.
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2552872]It is called narcissistic personality disorder; and most commonly found in the likes of actors, athletes, and rock stars.
[/QUOTE]The Jimmy!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2IPTVD1lS0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2552617]There's nothing worse than a bad case of "long ass ".[/QUOTE]Inverted v shape? LOL. I thought it couldn't get worse than sponge Bob square pants until I saw the inverters v shape graphic.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2551704]Was strolling around hungry at Soi 6 during dinner time around 6. All the girlie bars where closed because of the mayor's order for entertainment venues to shut down. While I was merrily walking, I saw a slim bar girl dashed across the street to a food vendor car, out of the corner of my eye. It was like a giant black cat making a quick dash. Funny thing was the girl was still dressed in her bar outfit, boobs hanging out and tight ass shorts, as if she was working. I walked by her "closed up" shop and could hear music, some chatter, and giggling. I think they were streaming live again, but with doors shut. She was decent enough looking, so I asked about some fun, promising not to tattle tell to the police that they were working behind closed doors. She told me 1000 for everything including the room. Cheap cheap for me because I agreed. She told cart lady to hold onto the brown soupy porky noodle thing until she came back. The girl brought me indoors and upstairs for a shower and quick fuck and suck. The room was dimly lit in all blue, which you should know by now, is Monkeypaw's favorite color. For the title of Soi 6 Aficionado, who can name this Soi 6 bar from the pics? When she was gargling my jizz from her mouth, and spitting my babies down the sink, I asked her how much she got to keep from that 1000. She said only 600 and asked for a tip. I said "no," I need my money for pizza. I'm so hungry! How convenient, Soi 6, at 6, and for 600. Mark of the beast!.[/QUOTE]My war with McDonalds. One morning, walked into the McD's at the basement floor of Central Festival in Pattaya for some breakfast. They had a new menu featuring some "cheesy bun" sandwiches. I don't eat meat, so I just ordered the "cheesy egg bun set". When my order was brought to me, all was on the tray was a sandwich, no coffee, no hash brown, nada. I lifted up the paper on the tray, looked under the tray, and still didn't see anything. Monkeypaw looked at the staff lady dumbfounded and asked her "where is the set?" She said I would have to pay extra if I wanted the rest of items. I asked why would McDonald's call this a "set " if its wasn't a "set"? She said, the "set" was the bun, egg, and cheese. I thought that was called a sandwich, I replied. I then grabbed one of those laminated menus and showed her the word "set" is used to describe a combo like in their "filet of fish set" for 159 baht on the menu. It clearly said "set" next the price just like everything else. She said to me that there are no sets that cheap as 39 baht, and that's how I should have known. I said, okay okay, ordered an OJ and paid extra.
Fast forward, a couple of weeks. Normal price filet of fish sandwich is 95 baht, regular fries is 49 baht, combo is 159 baht. I went back to that same McDonald's, ordered from a food delivery app. Hit them with all sorts of coupons and vouchers. 4 (yes four) filet of fish sandwiches and 4 (yes again four) regular fries for 160 baht or 40 baht each combo. The delivery guy picked it up all the food, and dropped it off 10 meters to XXL and yours truly. Monkeypaw was in a sharing kind of mood like always. Because sharing is caring, right? XXL had coffee and I brought some H20. The food was hot, fries crispy, and the McDonald's lounge chairs were comfortable. No quality loss here. And here's another kicker, thank God we both can eat like this and still maintain a BMI at 21. Maybe it's our gift for not eating meat. Afterwards when XXL burned rubber for a nap, Monkeypaw had to drop some serious bombs like Hiroshima and Nagasaki. My condo was at least a 10 minute walk away in the hot ass sun. The public bathrooms in Central Festival are decent. But if you know me, just like a finding a top tier Gogo bar girl. If there is something better, I will find it and make it my own. I headed to the top floor, though the glass doors, up the stairs and found myself at the guest bathrooms for the Hilton. Nice, cool, clean, marbled, quiet, empty with towels, lavender soap, and scented lotion. And this is where the Kraken was released. It's like one night in Bangkok, and now Pattaya is my oyster. Maybe the world is next. My gems are my rewards for the mercy I showed on the McD's staff. Cheap Charlie? Smart and Savvy? Or Smooth Criminal?
P.S. In case anyone is clueless, the phrase "the world is your oyster" means that one can achieve anything you wish in life or go anywhere because one has the opportunity or ability to do so.
A Soi 6 girl (who has a few short vids from her Soi 6 bar on Youtube) is now one of my outcalls regulars. She said yesterday was a good day for her as she won 20 drinks. But some days are not as good, with sometimes only 4 or 5 drinks.
Maybe this online lady drinks nonsense is not so bad as it helps keep those girls in Pattaya (as opposed to their returning to the villages).
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2552642]Nothing wrong with being Frugal. And Fair.
I wonder if those who claim to get things on discount just are Skint. Always have been always will be.
It's a mindset.
Scamming Thais? Come on.
I notice Svammers are always Broke. Coincidence or not.[/QUOTE]If scammers are broke, why are the banks rich? Today, I pulled out my weekly entertainment, massage, and pussy stipend from a Krungsi ATM. And guess what? There is a screen where the banks tells you "We converted your home currency for your convenience" as if they are trying to help you. If you accept, the stupid rate is about the same as Western Union's rate. That shit is horrible, about a 1000 baht difference if you select "no." That's 1 short time with a decent hottie now (for some anyways). You can imagine how many people of other nationalities, who aren't fluent in English, get duped. Then after it gave me my money, the card was never returned. I had a Thai girl who was waiting behind me to use the ATM, call customer service to send a technician out. Had to give them the info on my receipt to do so. Lucky me, there was a branch in the mall and all this took like 10 minutes to resolve. This is why I don't like banks. Absolutely no remorse about legally robbing them for over 300 K. They did to sue, but all ended in plaintiff's motion for non-suit. Blessed be the fruit! Under his eye.
These posts of his reminds me of the scams ghetto crack working girl single moms would perpetrate using vouchers and food stamps to game the system. Here is a idea how about doing something as simple as living by your own strength and labour rather than collecting daddies stipend, if you want to impress us. Its equally hilarious to equate his 100 baht food scams to the scams run by MNC to validate his edgy success.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2552966]....If you accept, the stupid rate is about the same as Western Union's rate. [/QUOTE]Agree that ATM default options for the Thai bank to determine exchange rate is a rip off. Recently we had good discussion on better way to use Thai ATM, the winner seemed to be getting a Fidelity or Charles Schwab card where they give good exchange rate and refund all fees on both ends.
Western Union has different rates and terms depending on how fast you need the money moved, where it comes from, and where it goes. Last I checked the Western Union fees were zero with good exchange rate if you did bank account to bank account transfer and allowed about 5 days. Immediate moving money from credit card in USA to cash in Thailand was insanely expensive.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2553033]Agree that ATM default options for the Thai bank to determine exchange rate is a rip off. Recently we had good discussion on better way to use Thai ATM, the winner seemed to be getting a Fidelity or Charles Schwab card where they give good exchange rate and refund all fees on both ends.
Western Union has different rates and terms depending on how fast you need the money moved, where it comes from, and where it goes. Last I checked the Western Union fees were zero with good exchange rate if you did bank account to bank account transfer and allowed about 5 days. Immediate moving money from credit card in USA to cash in Thailand was insanely expensive.[/QUOTE]Anyone frequently visiting here should open local bank account and wire funds to that account and use local ATM card. Transfer either direct or using transferwise that in most cases is the cheapest way to get funds here. Easily one or two ST per month for free vs using credit card!
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[QUOTE=Knobrm;2553121]Anyone frequently visiting here should open local bank account and wire funds to that account and use local ATM card. Transfer either direct or using transferwise that in most cases is the cheapest way to get funds here. Easily one or two ST per month for free vs using credit card![/QUOTE]It is my understanding that it is nearly impossible for a traveler to open a Thai bank account.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2553180]It is my understanding that it is nearly impossible for a traveler to open a Thai bank account.[/QUOTE]Well, have to admit it is a while since I opened mine, but was on 30 day waiver as traveler when I did. Just got the residence paper from immigration (which is easy).
I'm pretty sure some branches will do still (BKK bank on 2nd road near WS and BKK bank on Jomtien 2nd road on top of Soi 5 used to be OK at least).
If not use agents like Mots or Tik Tok sure they can make it happen for a small fee...almost anything here is...
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2553180]It is my understanding that it is nearly impossible for a traveler to open a Thai bank account.[/QUOTE]I opened a Thai bank account while on visa exempt status.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2553360]Absolutely agree. Guys need to weed out who is credible and who is not on here. Lots of very active handles on here pretending they know stuff when they haven't even been to Thailand or made a 1 week visit years ago.
There should be a private section on this forum where only members who have met in person can access. Members also need to be present in Bangkok or Pattaya and active in the scene (ie. able to write current bar and girl reviews).
You clearly don't know me then![/QUOTE]There you have it BB? Today what you have is a lot of keyboard cowards as they term them. It is easier to criticize behind the keyboard easier for some to talk behind their backs treat them like an enemy but lack the fortitude to do it straight out!
What kills me as you noted been told in the past by others some posters aren't even real or even been in Thailand if true that is really pathetic in my opinion just degrades the website credibility and there is just no justifiable reason for doing it!
I have left Thailand to get vaccinated but will return soon.
Given the closed bars and massage shops, what are my options for fun?
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2553121]Anyone frequently visiting here should open local bank account and wire funds to that account and use local ATM card. Transfer either direct or using transferwise that in most cases is the cheapest way to get funds here. Easily one or two ST per month for free vs using credit card![/QUOTE]If y'all haven't heard of it there's this which is what I have: Schwab Bank High Yield Investor Checking® account (Google it).
You get a debit card which has 0% foreign transaction fees (most are at least 1%) and better yet you get ATM fees refunded. So if there an access fee of say 200 baht for using the ATM you get that money refunded to you by Schwab.
When it comes to ATM, although I live here and have a few Thai Bank accounts my main source of Baht comes each month from the ATM I've been doing this for as long as I can remember. In my own simple way, I have a number of Credit Cards, Debit Cards from different institutions that are interlinked so if one goes down I have a backup. In 15 plus years never have had a card sucked up but did have a problem years back with Aeon when the machine didn't dispense money but took it out of my account. A simple call to my institution back home was placed back an audit requested to Aeon month later resolved. I was also shorted once by a Bangkok Bank ATM without going into details they lied one of the reasons I will only do so much business with any Thai Bank.
Years ago I did research out of interest I went throughout Pattaya using different Thai bank ATM'S checking their rates from local and tourist locations sadly although the same bank there is a slight difference in the exchange rate if every baht makes a difference in the end I make it a point although there are only two locations here in Pattaya to mainly use Aeon the user fee is 150 baht compared to 220 and most of all no matter what card is used they don't put in their own lower rate as the other Thai Banks.
Cards are different, as noted Fidelity, Charles Schwab which I also have and I think another top of my head Citi-Bank return all fees to you end of the month. These cards for example like my other Wells Fargo when used on a Thai Bank the lower exchange rate request being asked it goes straight to the Internation rate but remember after requesting your money the screen shows a breakdown of the rate most likely will be 1% lower do not push YES to continue push NO it will revert back to the International rate. Sadly my Credit Union Debit card whenever I use it on a Thai Bank ATM I get this message.
A few years back needing to wire large amounts from the USA I also did research, in the end, settle on Transferwise which is called Wise now, all the data I got showed Wise gave a much higher rate to offset any of their fees so I sign up and gave it a try every transaction was quick and fast once you get everything set up. So if you live here or visit long periods at a time and can establish a local account you should consider this method as I have been doing for a year to cut the expense of ATM fees regardless if you are getting it free.
I get my pension money S. S. Placed in two different accounts Charles Schwab and my Credit Union I've been consolidating deposits from my other accounts to Charles Schwab. Prior I was doing two withdraws a month from my Credit Union the cost was in the range totalling 20.00 USD. Based on the average exchange rate two draws for $1000 USD max 30,000 baht. Using Wise I do a transfer once a month to my Thai bank account the fee I pay for $1000 (example) is just under $10.00 with the better exchange rate given by Wise compare to any ATM I get an average of 1000 B for every $1000 USD, although not much in USD that is $30.00.
Food for thought?
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2553549]Eyeglass shops. Grocery stores. Office managers.
The usual places where most of us go to get Hot Free girls.[/QUOTE]Okay. Let me try again: there are plenty of ladies hanging around Soi Buakhow at night, are there short time hotels in the Soi Lengkee / Diana area?
I opened a bank account with Bangkok Bank on 2nd road (opposite Soi 6) in 2017 while on a visa waiver. Provided I transfer substantial amounts at a time (like 10 k euros), SWIFT transfers from Europe are not expensive. This is one thing I like about Thailand. It's not just the overheads that are low, the exchange rate is also OK, not some fancy scamming exchange rate like banks in South America hit you with.
If I were to name one thing that I would regret about Thailand if I settled elsewhere, that would be it: easy access to my money.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2553602]Okay. Let me try again: there are plenty of ladies hanging around Soi Buakhow at night, are there short time hotels in the Soi Lengkee / Diana area?[/QUOTE]Yes. There are.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553620]Yes. There are.[/QUOTE]Great, thanks. The ladies will know where they are.
[QUOTE=XXL;2553611]I opened a bank account with Bangkok Bank on 2nd road (opposite Soi 6) in 2017 while on a visa waiver. Provided I transfer substantial amounts at a time (like 10 k euros), SWIFT transfers from Europe are not expensive. This is one thing I like about Thailand. It's not just the overheads that are low, the exchange rate is also OK, not some fancy scamming exchange rate like banks in South America hit you with.
If I were to name one thing that I would regret about Thailand if I settled elsewhere, that would be it: easy access to my money.[/QUOTE]Once you mentioned that branch, also recall someone saying it being farang friendly in addition to the couple of others I know. Sure there are others, in other cities too. If problem, might help if tell you moving here and buying a house and need to transfer 15 M baht for that purpose. Sorry need to go to some other bank if you can not...everything here is driven by money, not only pussy...
Re transfers, Transferwise (Wise they call themselves now.) is even cheaper, and the fee is effectively a percentage of the amount and pretty much same regardless of the amount, so no need to send a lot at a time and still low cost. If big amount, still cheaper than SWIFT transfer as the rate they use is better than banks use for SWIFT receptions. I was using SWIFT transfers before, but since I learned about Transferwise, not after that.
Typically next day in BKK bank account here when send from my bank in Europe so easy to manage in real time online.
So really is much better to open an account if frequent visitor, esp if you dont have one of those US fee-waiving cards. No worries about credit card fraud either as can use local ATM / debit card for all payments.
Online banking I think still requires one year visa (I think, not sure, but was so when I opened my acct), but that is not necessary.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2553602]Okay. Let me try again: there are plenty of ladies hanging around Soi Buakhow at night, are there short time hotels in the Soi Lengkee / Diana area?[/QUOTE]There are plenty in the area the ladies will know but let them know unless it is what you like a shithole! It has been a long long time but once told a Beach Road girl went to a place S / H just off Beach Road Soi 13 something I think the one where the Starbucks is on the corner? It was cheap something like 150 baht? The towels were basically used newspapers.
On Soi Baukhao, just outside the LK Metro next to the closed Climax outdoor bar or few doors down is Jasmine Villa use it a few time years back not sure what the cost now. If you got a motorbike many use the Love Inn just off 3rd Road or Viva up the road from the Big see extra on Klang.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2553489]I have left Thailand to get vaccinated but will return soon.
Given the closed bars and massage shops, what are my options for fun?[/QUOTE]Costa Rica and Panama are open, albeit with their own restrictions.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2552654]Whenever you hear things that sound off there usually a Backstory not being told. Ex. Girl is old fat and toothless. China Town full of these so don't laugh. They do get customers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2552777]Where exactly is "China Town" in Pattaya where there are P4P girls? My post was about Pattaya and this is the Pattaya forum so I am assuming your response is about Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2552787]Being Chinese, the closes thing to Chinatown is past the Fish Market down on Naklua, [/QUOTE]No idea if this is Chinatown, but it is Naklua. I do not know if the chicks are fat and toothless, but they are definitely not cheap.
"Pattaya's police searched an area of the city in Naklua after reports that more than 50 women were selling themselves outside".
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214868-police-carry-out-raid-in-area-of-pattaya-after-reports-of-prostitution-find-nothing/?utm_source=newsletter-20210424-1246&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/URL]
"On both sides of the road in front of ten closed lounges were groups of women in skimpy clothing that amounted to more than 50 individuals in total. In a blurred out video the reporter said he was visiting and inquired about prices. He was told that it was 1,200 for short time on the premises and 1,350 off site with a better room. All night would set him back 3,500 to 4,000 baht. There was no shortage of customers. There was a steady stream of cars and motorcycles circling and stopping. ".
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214784-prostitution-continues-in-pattaya-despite-covid-19-restrictions/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553965]No idea if this is Chinatown, but it is Naklua. I do not know if the chicks are fat and toothless, but they are definitely not cheap.
"Pattaya's police searched an area of the city in Naklua after reports that more than 50 women were selling themselves outside".
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214868-police-carry-out-raid-in-area-of-pattaya-after-reports-of-prostitution-find-nothing/?utm_source=newsletter-20210424-1246&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/URL]
"On both sides of the road in front of ten closed lounges were groups of women in skimpy clothing that amounted to more than 50 individuals in total. In a blurred out video the reporter said he was visiting and inquired about prices. He was told that it was 1,200 for short time on the premises and 1,350 off site with a better room. All night would set him back 3,500 to 4,000 baht. There was no shortage of customers. There was a steady stream of cars and motorcycles circling and stopping. ".
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214784-prostitution-continues-in-pattaya-despite-covid-19-restrictions/[/URL][/QUOTE]The news report was about Soi Esso, an area up in Moo 10 off Sukhumvit. It's pretty much a Thai only area, with bars frequented by Thai men. The police showed up a few days later and found nothing.
Chinatown in Pattaya is just south of Terminal 21.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2553711]There are plenty in the area the ladies will know but let them know unless it is what you like a shithole! It has been a long long time but once told a Beach Road girl went to a place S / H just off Beach Road Soi 13 something I think the one where the Starbucks is on the corner? It was cheap something like 150 baht? The towels were basically used newspapers.
On Soi Baukhao, just outside the LK Metro next to the closed Climax outdoor bar or few doors down is Jasmine Villa use it a few time years back not sure what the cost now. If you got a motorbike many use the Love Inn just off 3rd Road or Viva up the road from the Big see extra on Klang.[/QUOTE]I will never ride a motorcycle in Thailand, so my options are within close walking distance of Soi Buakhow. Thanks for the tip about Jasmine Villa. I have used a short time hotel in Pattaya, except for Full Love Inn, which I walked to from Soi Chaiyapoon. It was underwhelming, at least the rooms I was assigned to. Maybe the nice rooms are given to overnight guests.
Foxy bar Soi 6 . Girl name nice. Very acceptable.
You tube.
You will be happy man. LOL.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2554002]The news report was about Soi Esso, an area up in Moo 10 off Sukhumvit. It's pretty much a Thai only area, with bars frequented by Thai men. The police showed up a few days later and found nothing.
Chinatown in Pattaya is just south of Terminal 21.[/QUOTE]Not long ago a sweep of Pattaya by governmental official s found no evidence of Prostitution.
This just confirms No prostitutional activity going on in Pattaya. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2553965]No idea if this is Chinatown, but it is Naklua. I do not know if the chicks are fat and toothless, but they are definitely not cheap.
"Pattaya's police searched an area of the city in Naklua after reports that more than 50 women were selling themselves outside".
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214868-police-carry-out-raid-in-area-of-pattaya-after-reports-of-prostitution-find-nothing/?utm_source=newsletter-20210424-1246&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/URL]
"On both sides of the road in front of ten closed lounges were groups of women in skimpy clothing that amounted to more than 50 individuals in total. In a blurred out video the reporter said he was visiting and inquired about prices. He was told that it was 1,200 for short time on the premises and 1,350 off site with a better room. All night would set him back 3,500 to 4,000 baht. There was no shortage of customers. There was a steady stream of cars and motorcycles circling and stopping. ".
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1214784-prostitution-continues-in-pattaya-despite-covid-19-restrictions/[/URL][/QUOTE]I know this area well, it isn't Chinatown whatsoever! It is just off Sukhumvit north as you pass Bangkok Pattaya Hospital is an ESSO Gas Station prior to the entrance of the station and after there is a Soi behind is the area majority of the places are behind that station. I travel down this area frequently to take a shortcut to Naklau Market area during the day but it started to go dead close to 10 years now so whenever cruising at night it was no longer a destination.
It isn't a place a tourist would ever venture unless you go with someone I've only seen one farang in my visit and it just happens to be a friend, not a surprise he lives here and spoke good Thai. There were then lots of young local girls sitting outside but in many of the places you couldn't really sit outside majority wanted you to go inside the places were dark and seedy with a black glass door in front. So the thought was for a tourist alone will I get drugged or something many places had young kids sitting around look out and enforcements.
I hear from locals it was cheap but even for me I could never get one down to 600 baht I never partaken my brother and cousins have while I waited and sweet talk with the other girl outside. It is really hit and miss because then the girls were young many could barely speak English only " how are you " I remember the first time both took a girl from a place they took them down to another building where the rooms were like 105 baht girl wanted 800 while I sat there chatting with another girl a thought came over me I looked at my watch said to myself they will be back in a few minutes and surely with 15 minutes my brother came out shaking his head my cousin a bit later. Both last never again they would rather go to Soi 6, then Soi 6 was only 600 baht / 300 for a room. The room they both got said it was trashed, dark, towels given was like a used dirty rag. Both said they couldn't even get it up since laying on the bed they felt if something was crawling on them the added distraction the girl didn't even understand how to get a proper BJ and wouldn't unless a condom was used Oh one had to also buy a condom for 25 baht!
In spite of what I just wrote, I've had some Asian friends who live here visit often and found some gems that became regulars but they went to their places. Then on Friday and Saturday nights after 10 pm you see the young kids and older Thais cruise through the Soi, the place was packed with girls then! Many if you had the money didn't use the rooms but took the girl to a nearby place called 99, basically a short time motel you drive by the front the placed was packed with cars. Years later when my son got older we happen to cut through the Sois during the day he was staring out the window I ask him you know what the area he said yes and smiled he and his friends had cruized there at night to see what the talk was about. I try to ask him what the charge was but he said he never knew never ask because he didn't have a baht between him and his buddy. He laughed girls saw him called him Mr. Mgoo because he had thick glasses one girl told him would do him for free because she thought he was Korean and a virgin.
If they didn't find anything it is because a local complaint and their source at the Banglamung Station tip everyone off. I will put it on my list when I next cruise at night and will report back.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2554161]I know this area well, it isn't Chinatown whatsoever! It is just off Sukhumvit north as you pass Bangkok Pattaya Hospital is an ESSO Gas Station prior to the entrance of the station and after there is a Soi behind is the area majority of the places are behind that station. I travel down this area frequently to take a shortcut to Naklau Market area during the day but it started to go dead close to 10 years now so whenever cruising at night it was no longer a destination.
It isn't a place a tourist would ever venture unless you go with someone I've only seen one farang in my visit and it just happens to be a friend, not a surprise he lives here and spoke good Thai. There were then lots of young local girls sitting outside but in many of the places you couldn't really sit outside majority wanted you to go inside the places were dark and seedy with a black glass door in front. So the thought was for a tourist alone will I get drugged or something many places had young kids sitting around look out and enforcements.
[/QUOTE]I agree with this, I was there awhile ago. I recall I paid 500-600, then there were plenty of farm fresh girls but service was lacking no BJ. At the time I recalled it was similar to soi 6 pricing so didn't see the benefit of making my way there instead of soi 6 overall. Recently in 2018, I made a visit thinking that the local scene didn't experience the inflation of the falang scene, I went there around 7 pm a bit early I know. The girls were very average looking and I was quoted 1200-1500, I didn't partake.
I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?
If things return to normal. Pattaya is better then Bangkok. People who know both might disagree but you don't know both. Pattaya is easy. It's small enough to get around easy. Places are easy to find. Baht buses are cheap and easy. You can walk from walking street to soi six and find aggressive sex workers or stop on soi 7 and 8 for a bit more laid back but still a bit aggressive. Or you can find casual beer bars to just sit and drink but still fuck the girls there if you want.
Bangkok has all that but it's a big city with the big city feel. You might like that better but if it's just a sex holiday and first time pattaya wins hands down.
You're asking for opinion though and that's mine others may differ.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2554452]I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2554452]I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]It depends on what you want to do. If a purely sex vacation is what you want, then I would agree with Horatio that Pattaya is the top pick. But if you want to throw in some more "normal" touristy things, then I would say Bangkok. For anyone who is going to Thailand for the very first time, I always recommend spending some time in Bangkok to see the sights and sounds and learn something of the country's history and culture. I mean, why pick anyway? Just do both Bangkok and Pattaya! I will add that I also enjoyed the laid back pace of Phuket which has its own scene. I met the hottest Thai chick of my entire trip there (imagine a Thai Jennifer Anniston)!
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2550852]Ask and you shall receive. Former WS Gogo bar girl, who stopped dancing a couple of years ago. Had a sponsor, not named Monkeypaw, who helped her open up an online clothing shop. Now she clears about 150,000 baht a month with her shop. When she is stressed out, she messages Monkepaw for a "hug. " She comes over, not even dolled up, and just in her jammies. A little conversation, then a quick hand job, followed by a condom and sex. There is no kissing, no showering (besides me beforehand), no dick sucking, no pussy licking whatsoever. Once we are done with our 30-45 minutes of hard pounding and fucking, if it's late, she sleeps over. If it's not, she goes back home. I've never paid for anything for her, not a date, not a meal, since we've been fucking. Maybe a cup of coffee, a year or so ago. And that's it. I did once buy her drinks, barfined and banged her over 2 years ago when she was working, but just that once. That's how we initially met. I was mesmerized by that ass. Now all Monkeypaw is to her is a booty call and stress relief. We've been doing this twice every month since the first lockdown last year. Recently, one night, she told me she was bored and wanted to get a dog. I advised her not to because I personally thought, she wasn't capable of taking care of herself, much less a dog. Her place is like a hoarder's paradise, unkept, with stuff everywhere. She ended up getting a 2 month old Samoyed pup. She paraded it everywhere and showed it off like it was a prize. I messaged her that it wasn't a good idea because it came from a pet store and probably wasn't weaned off correctly from the mother. Puppies like that usually are kept away from other dogs until they finish all their vaccination boosters. She said it was fine and ignored me. A week or so later, the puppy was in the hospital and eventually died. I messaged her to see if she was okay. She did not respond. And since then, the girl never replied as if the puppy's death was somehow my fault. Maybe it's saving face. So no more freebies for me. Like I said, she's not the hottest, but at least she was free.[/QUOTE]When the Paw says your place is a "hoarder's paradise," you have issues and not capable of taking care of yourself, much less a Samoyed pup. No joke. My freebie just hit me up for another "hug," "(R&R)" '"stress relief" or whatever you want to call it. I saw her new haircut and it was a definite "PASS. " The haircut made her less pretty than before. Not that she was even that pretty before, but rather 45 minutes of exercise. Definitely, not worth the trouble, because she would have heard it again about how carless she was to have gotten the puppy sick and dead. Sometimes pootang, no matter how free, is just not worth all the trouble. Got to connect on some kind of level, even when you are in the game.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2554460]If things return to normal. Pattaya is better then Bangkok. People who know both might disagree but you don't know both. Pattaya is easy. It's small enough to get around easy. Places are easy to find. Baht buses are cheap and easy. You can walk from walking street to soi six and find aggressive sex workers or stop on soi 7 and 8 for a bit more laid back but still a bit aggressive. Or you can find casual beer bars to just sit and drink but still fuck the girls there if you want.
Bangkok has all that but it's a big city with the big city feel. You might like that better but if it's just a sex holiday and first time pattaya wins hands down.
You're asking for opinion though and that's mine others may differ.[/QUOTE]WS to Soi 6 is a long dam walk. At least it is for me when I am after the ladies and not exercising.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2554452]I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Always Pattaya tourist or no tourist! Let's see, you have your choice of a mega city that is so large the authorities have no idea how many people live there that's hot as sin constantly, with real close to the worst traffic in the world. Or a sea side resort (Note: I did not say Luxury sea side resort) that even in the worst of times is way easier to get around in than Bangkok as well being way easier to find super hot ladies who are tired of studying for the college finals and need to make a little tuition money. Just my opinion and I sure we have a few that disagree, but we all know, they won't know what they are talking about.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2554002]The news report was about Soi Esso, an area up in Moo 10 off Sukhumvit. It's pretty much a Thai only area, with bars frequented by Thai men. The police showed up a few days later and found nothing.
Chinatown in Pattaya is just south of Terminal 21.[/QUOTE]Your saying that its before North Pattaya Road and the Dolphin Roundabout. It can't be between beach and 2nd road I am pretty sure I have been up and down each on of them at least once. The first time I heard about it in 20 years, which in the past there was a good reason I hadn't heard about it before. But, I in for anything once, when things get back to normal I will try to find it. And before I start looking, I will ask around somebody has to have been there, at least once.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2554513]Always Pattaya tourist or no tourist! Let's see, you have your choice of a mega city that is so large the authorities have no idea how many people live there that's hot as sin constantly, with real close to the worst traffic in the world. Or a sea side resort (Note: I did not say Luxury sea side resort) that even in the worst of times is way easier to get around in than Bangkok as well being way easier to find super hot ladies who are tired of studying for the college finals and need to make a little tuition money. Just my opinion and I sure we have a few that disagree, but we all know, they won't know what they are talking about.[/QUOTE]If only one choice it's Bangkok.
Are you implying super hot free college girls who just want to be satisfied are Available in Pattaya. Come on man.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2554452]I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Think it depends on your tastes and budget.
BKK is better for tourism, food, shopping, soapies, BJ bars IMO and better for non mongering nightlife.
Pattaya is cheaper for freelancers / hotels / food / drinks etc, has Soi 6, is easier to get around and has beaches.
I couldn't tell you about which has the best Go Go's as I haven't been in them since my first few trips.
If it was purely for mongering, I'd choose Pattaya because I love Soi 6 and I'm not into soapies.
I would stay in nakula. So my loop was nakula down beach road to walking street and back to nakula on second road. Stopping wherever. If I got tired it's so easy to just hop in a baht bus. It was a long walk but it was continuous. Walk a bit, sit in a bar a bit, ride a baht bus to next place a bit.
I think I'm a bit off from the average monger. I would go to Thailand for a few months and had a budget so I paced myself. .
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2554509]WS to Soi 6 is a long dam walk. At least it is for me when I am after the ladies and not exercising.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2554516]Your saying that its before North Pattaya Road and the Dolphin Roundabout. It can't be between beach and 2nd road I am pretty sure I have been up and down each on of them at least once. The first time I heard about it in 20 years, which in the past there was a good reason I hadn't heard about it before. But, I in for anything once, when things get back to normal I will try to find it. And before I start looking, I will ask around somebody has to have been there, at least once.[/QUOTE]No. It's north of Bangkok Hospital Pattaya on Sukhumvit.
Only Thai customers and expensive.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2554516]Your saying that its before North Pattaya Road and the Dolphin Roundabout. It can't be between beach and 2nd road I am pretty sure I have been up and down each on of them at least once. The first time I heard about it in 20 years, which in the past there was a good reason I hadn't heard about it before. But, I in for anything once, when things get back to normal I will try to find it. And before I start looking, I will ask around somebody has to have been there, at least once.[/QUOTE]Your compass is off, Esso Gas Station isn't East and West it is North and South. On Sukhumvit and Pattaya Nua you head North which is the direction of the Bangkok Hospital continue pass go down to Soi 22 make a left just before the Gas Station it is the area behind the station. I was heading down the Electric office yesterday during the day and turn in to check the Soi out the residents shop today aren't anything it was years ago tough to see as report 50 girls sitting outside at night. At some point, I will make an evening visiting.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2554452]I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]For a relaxing holiday with as much sex as you can handle: Pattaya.
If you want to be close to the airport, then BKK is best. Again, this is provided both areas return to pre-covid times. BKK has roughly three "red light" districts that are spread out.
Pattaya City is a red light district, LOL.
Agree with the earlier comment that Pattaya is cheaper for just about everything.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2554716]For a relaxing holiday with as much sex as you can handle: Pattaya.
If you want to be close to the airport, then BKK is best. Again, this is provided both areas return to pre-covid times. BKK has roughly three "red light" districts that are spread out.
Pattaya City is a red light district, LOL.
Agree with the earlier comment that Pattaya is cheaper for just about everything.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is a one-and-a-half-hour drive away from the airport in good traffic, BKK a 1-hour drive away in heavy traffic. I don't see this making much of a difference.
As to Pattaya being cheaper, this didn't apply to moving around outside the Songtaew circus. Taxis in Pattaya charged 200 Baht minimum pre-covid. A typical ten-minutes' ride set you back 400 Baht. On average 3 times as expensive as in BKK. Now with Bolt things are different but nobody knows for how long.
Anyway none of this matters any more now. No bars, no swimming pools, no foot massages ... Pattaya now anything but a red-light district, more like a ghost-town. Not much different from a quarantine except you can still have girls visiting.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2554524]Think it depends on your tastes and budget.
BKK is better for tourism, food, shopping, soapies, BJ bars IMO and better for non mongering nightlife.
Pattaya is cheaper for freelancers / hotels / food / drinks etc, has Soi 6, is easier to get around and has beaches.
I couldn't tell you about which has the best Go Go's as I haven't been in them since my first few trips.
If it was purely for mongering, I'd choose Pattaya because I love Soi 6 and I'm not into soapies.[/QUOTE]Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.
Not like the girls were any better.
The price put me off from Pattaya Barfining.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2554768]Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.
Not like the girls were any better.
The price put me off from Pattaya Barfining.[/QUOTE]I think it is the lack of competition in Pattaya, the same reason Pattaya taxi drivers charge ridiculously high rates compared to those in Bangkok.
If you don't like the cost of barfines in Nana Plaza go-go bars, walk 15 minutes to Soi Cowboy, ride 10 minutes in a taxi to Patpong or even ride the bts skytrain 20 minutes to Saphan Kwai. Competition. During normal times, that is.
If you don't like the cost of barfines in Pattaya's Walking Street go-go bars, book a taxi for a 2-3 hour 1,200+ baht ride to Nana Plaza or a 3+ hour bus ride for 118 baht. Zero real world go-go bar competition.
Imo, the relative isolation of Pattaya from many more, bigger and better line ups to be found hours away in Bangkok allows Pattaya to get away with doling out sub par service from sub par girls that are overpriced at what they actually charge and get even if the net cost for pussy for fucking (and girls for sucking) is less than it is in Bangkok.
In the past 7-8 years and many trips and to Pattaya from Bangkok, not one time did it result in me getting more, better or even as good pussy with quality girls for less than it costs me in Bangkok. I only go there for the change in scenery or because a friend wants to go and check it out.
For quantity and quality of pussy, fucking, sucking and good girls for less cost, it is not worth the 2-3 hour trip and cost for me to leave Bangkok and journey to Pattaya in hopes of finding it. It ain't there. For me.
As always, YMMV.
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy;2554452]I am going to post this here and in the Bangkok page. I am curious, Where is it best to travel to when tourism comes back? Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Well you have to travel to Bangkok to reach Pattaya so of course you should check out the action in both.
But if you are a 50+ plus year old white guy don't expect to be able to pull the best girls in Pattaya. The hottest Pattaya pros only barfine with young Asian guys from China, Korea, and Japan. If you are content to barfine the more average looking girls I'd say go straight to Pattaya.
Bangkok on the other hand I think there are more regular girls that come to work on busy weekend nights. Does anyone know if maybe X number of days contracts are not required in Bangkok the way the are in Pattaya? I've found the hottest girls to be at least somewhat receptive to this older white guy in Bangkok as compared to Pattaya.
Still I spend most of my time in Pattaya just because I like the beach town so much more than the big city of Bangkok.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2554768]Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.
[/QUOTE]Has my memory failed me? I remember paying about 1200 baht for bar fines at Nana Plaza. Maybe I got the special farang price. Butterflies and Mandarin were my most common bar fines. Most recently was February and March 2020.
Bar fines on Koh Samui were lower. Bar fines on Bangla Road were higher. Again, maybe my memory has failed me.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2554768]Never understood how Nana Plaza Barfines were 700 while Pattaya Agogos charge 1,000 or more.[/QUOTE]Which Pattaya gogo bars charged 1000 baht and when were you last in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2554893]Well you have to travel to Bangkok to reach Pattaya so of course you should check out the action in both.
Still I spend most of my time in Pattaya just because I like the beach town so much more than the big city of Bangkok.[/QUOTE]The whole city is an active brothel in Pattaya. The options are wide and get enough fresh air. It is an awesome vacation place packed with adult entertainments. With my experience of more than thirty plus visits in Pattaya since 2005.
Regards.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2554882]Imo, the relative isolation of Pattaya from many more, bigger and better line ups to be found hours away in Bangkok [/QUOTE]We will never agree on this I know that already. Maybe it's my inexperience in Bangkok or yours in Pattaya. I've only done about 30 or 40 trips to Bangkok since 2015 never staying more than 1 week so I am by no means an expert on Bangkok gogo bars I guess. Maybe the scene just pre-COVID was better in Bangkok I'm not sure because I was living in Tokyo by then. I wouldn't exactly call Pattaya gogo bars as not having many girls. A few years ago you could find up to 150 girls at Sensations, over a 100 at Happy / Beach Club, Palace, Pin Up, Baccara, etc. There's Sapphire, Peppermint, What's Up/Imagine, and possibly Skyfall too but I don't go to those gogo bars often. We have very different taste in girls if you couldn't find lookers at these A class gogo bars. You must like the natural Thai look like Syzygies. There's only about the same amount of BKK gogo bars with 100+ girls. Maybe I'm ladyboy-phobic but I see most of Nana Plaza as ladyboys.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2554908]With my experience of more than thirty plus visits in Pattaya since 2005.[/QUOTE]
You've been on ISG for a long time and I don't recall any detailed Pattaya reviews from you since I started researching the Pattaya forum in 2013/2014, What gives? Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2554910]
You've been on ISG for a long time and I don't recall any detailed Pattaya reviews from you since I started researching the Pattaya forum in 2013/2014, What gives? Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]Laziness sir simply laziness. Joined in the ISG forum very long ago. Reviews in the forum always helped me in my solo monger travel in different countries. BB, you also helped me in my Jakarta trip conveying information. He he.
One good thing and in the only way Pattaya beats Bungkock is Agogo scene gets going at 8 pm.
BKK generally starts at 9 pm, even then the Stars are only beginning to show up.
Hi friends.
No travel since Feb 20. No mongering. Physical frustration is gradually creeping into the blood and brain. No lights of hopes anywhere. Back again looking into the paradise of mongering with hope and expectation. Only worry whether these girls forget how to fuck again after a long break. Height of unemployement is simply seen by cobweb on a pros vagina. Erectile dysfunction can happen anytime if things go like this. He he.
Regards.
There are two markets on Soi Buakhao. One open Tuesdays and Fridays, early morning until the early evening, and sits near Tukcom. The other is past Treetown with Central Festival on the horizon and is open everyday. If bored, there is always some street action and girls ready for pick up in both markets. The latter, being the better of the two. The first is good for grabbing some Joe and people watching. Both has plenty of food and drinks. Normally, what I do is grab my bag and empty container and beg for some free food like the monks do here. All you have to do is stand in front of the Thai food stall or vendor with your container, and they will drop some food inside it. Then Monkeypaw chants a few words, blessing the vendor and their family. Works like a charm! Thailand has so much food that nobody goes hungry here, not even the homeless. Back when the bars and clubs were open, they used to have offerings in front of the businesses with some food, drinks, and alcohol, along with some incense burning. I would see random people like that tattooed dark skinned Thai who walks around in his boxers, take the food and the shots of liquor. It looked like a good idea to save a few hundred bahts. There have been times before I hit up Walking Street, I would do the same as a warm up and chug their shots they leave outside. The Thais really don't even say anything if they see you. Too bad the Westerners don't practice this, feed the dead ancestors and bring good luck, stuff. Just Monkeypaw, monking around.
This so sucks! It's 7:45 I want to go out and the whole FN city is closed. After 17 years here and for the first time I am actually thinking about getting a live in girl friend. The world is coming to an end. This stinking virus is ruining my life. I think covers it.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2554963]This so sucks! It's 7:45 I want to go out and the whole FN city is closed. After 17 years here and for the first time I am actually thinking about getting a live in girl friend. The world is coming to an end. This stinking virus is ruining my life. I think covers it.[/QUOTE]For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2554974]For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.[/QUOTE]Please expound how you made more money investing, I'm game. LOL.
I've found selling option Premium s can be quite lucrative.
Time will tell.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2554910]... I wouldn't exactly call Pattaya gogo bars as not having many girls. A few years ago you could find up to 150 girls at Sensations, over a 100 at Happy / Beach Club, Palace, Pin Up, Baccara, etc. There's Sapphire, Peppermint, What's Up/Imagine, and possibly Skyfall too but I don't go to those gogo bars often. We have very different taste in girls if you couldn't find lookers at these A class gogo bars. You must like the natural Thai look like Syzygies. There's only about the same amount of BKK gogo bars with 100+ girls. Maybe I'm ladyboy-phobic but I see most of Nana Plaza as ladyboys.
...[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say I couldn't find lookers in some Pattaya go-go bars if I went into certain go-go bars in search of them. Just that there is (or was, during normal times) naturally a greater number of them of that level on view to all in and out of Bangkok's go-go bars. That not only creates more competition among girls of that level to offer somewhat better sex and attitude in order to score a customer but, most importantly to me, it inspires more competition among the 2nd Tier girls to offer demonstrably better sex and attitude to score a customer on their assumption that any customer could choose from among those highly visible and accessible Top Tier lookers any minute instead.
Unless you go into a handful of top go-go bars, the vast majority of customers and sub par or middling girls in Pattaya could easily think the overwhelming majority of sub par and middling girls on view everywhere in the city are the Queens of the Prom and if you don't like how they look or deliver in bed, get to work in those few go-go bars, start spending and see if you pass muster for the great honor of taking one to your room for standard, basic fare, if that, at silly high prices. Not so for sub par, middling or even 2nd Tier girls in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2554974]For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.[/QUOTE]A person who doesn't let a crisis go to waste!
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2554921]One good thing and in the only way Pattaya beats Bungkock is Agogo scene gets going at 8 pm.[/QUOTE]Wrong again. In Pattaya many gogo bars opened well before 8 pm pre-COVID so no need to wait until 8 pm. Windmill, Happy, Baccara to name a few.
However, do agree that Bangkok is more or less only night time fun other than massage joints. Pattaya has massage, Soi 6, 20 or 30 BJ bars and G clubs, hundreds if not a thousand outdoor bar beers, all open from 1 pm or even earlier.
Bit siri.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2555035]Please expound how you made more money investing, I'm game. LOL.
I've found selling option Premium s can be quite lucrative.
Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Covid brought opportunities if you got the timing right, not always easy.
My current major position is shorting dollar / Euro using Sept and Dec contracts at 216 and 218. I see Joe getting a big chunk of what he's asking for, even republicans no longer seem to regard deficits as dangerous. I'm betting the markets will see it differently.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2555159]Covid brought opportunities if you got the timing right, not always easy.
My current major position is shorting dollar / Euro using Sept and Dec contracts at 216 and 218. I see Joe getting a big chunk of what he's asking for, even republicans no longer seem to regard deficits as dangerous. I'm betting the markets will see it differently.[/QUOTE]OK, each to their own. Some people believe sitting down at a poker table is investing. Playing the FX markets is just another form of gambling even for the big boys, who have access to more information and more computer power than the rest of us could ever imagine. Hey, if your good at and make money call it whatever you want, but its not investing.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2555075]I wouldn't say I couldn't find lookers in some Pattaya go-go bars if I went into certain go-go bars in search of them. Just that there is (or was, during normal times) naturally a greater number of them of that level on view to all in and out of Bangkok's go-go bars. That not only creates more competition among girls of that level to offer somewhat better sex and attitude in order to score a customer but, most importantly to me, it inspires more competition among the 2nd Tier girls to offer demonstrably better sex and attitude to score a customer on their assumption that any customer could choose from among those highly visible and accessible Top Tier lookers any minute instead.
Unless you go into a handful of top go-go bars, the vast majority of customers and sub par or middling girls in Pattaya could easily think the overwhelming majority of sub par and middling girls on view everywhere in the city are the Queens of the Prom and if you don't like how they look or deliver in bed, get to work in those few go-go bars, start spending and see if you pass muster for the great honor of taking one to your room for standard, basic fare, if that, at silly high prices. Not so for sub par, middling or even 2nd Tier girls in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]The Boi has Rose Colored syndrome regarding Pattaya.
Pattaya pales in comparison to BKK. In every way imaginable.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2555229]OK, each to their own. Some people believe sitting down at a poker table is investing. Playing the FX markets is just another form of gambling even for the big boys, who have access to more information and more computer power than the rest of us could ever imagine. Hey, if your good at and make money call it whatever you want, but its not investing.[/QUOTE]There are quite a few Poker players who win playing Poker online.
It is a Skill.
They have the Stats to prove it.
Me on the other Hand. Hahaha.
Last night I would have hit top 5 in late stages of a tournament. My 91% to the good monster hand favorite lost though. I had a straight vs two pears. Run it thru the calculator, I was Robbed. LOL.
Is America s Cardroom available in Thailand. Would make trips even more Fun.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2554947]There are two markets on Soi Buakhao. One open Tuesdays and Fridays, early morning until the early evening, and sits near Tukcom. The other is past Treetown with Central Festival on the horizon and is open everyday. If bored, there is always some street action and girls ready for pick up in both markets. The latter, being the better of the two. [/QUOTE]I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend.
I am in Pattaya now, although I am in quarantine, I am overlooking 3rd Road, and can see its very quiet. Yet another level of restrictions have been imposed. The only good news is that the number of new infections is leveling off, maybe bars will open on June 1.
Okaqy, back to your discussions of gambling on the stock market.....
Looks like they're making quarantines 14 days mandatory again due to the recent covid outbreak, regardless of whether you have a vaccine or not. I wish they put some data out for their reasoning for this. If any of the recent outbreak was due to tourists who were released out of quarantine too early, I'd understand the reaction. But this seems to be just a draconian measure, similar to their restriction of alcohol sales.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555313]I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend.
I am in Pattaya now, although I am in quarantine, I am overlooking 3rd Road, and can see its very quiet. Yet another level of restrictions have been imposed. The only good news is that the number of new infections is leveling off, maybe bars will open on June 1.
Okaqy, back to your discussions of gambling on the stock market.....[/QUOTE]I don't buy at the Soi Buakhao market plenty of ones out here on the Darkside. But the market on Tuesday and Friday end of Baukhao which isn't even close to what it was pre-covid working girls living nearby need to shop and eat but they aren't working! Tough to explain in words here but in general there are certain things to look for and taking a guess? Now I wouldn't just assume go up and grab their ass like Online will take some work even a bit of stalking?
One, the manner of dress, tattoos, a problem if you look you aren't going to find isn't that always the case? The aisle where they sell women's clothes, cosmetics, particularly the cheap facial spas, even the food court area leading to Pattaya Tai. There is a second-hand market on the other side of the main market the congested area where the songthaew stop I've run into a number based on my stereotyping. Remember just because they are in the business doesn't mean while shopping they are open to being pick up 24/7 it takes work and luck.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2555328]Looks like they're making quarantines 14 days mandatory again due to the recent covid outbreak, regardless of whether you have a vaccine or not. I wish they put some data out for their reasoning for this. If any of the recent outbreak was due to tourists who were released out of quarantine too early, I'd understand the reaction. But this seems to be just a draconian measure, similar to their restriction of alcohol sales.[/QUOTE]When it comes to Thais and their leadership they don't lead they follow! My favorite saying " monkey see monkey do " once you get it every article every suggestion daily put out you will understand it is just white lies, smoke, or mirrors, call it whatever you want even be. S. Thai endorse like every country the " art of war " deflect and continue to deflect! If it is clearly green they will tell you it isn't.
You talk about them putting data that isn't going to happen! Prior to the 3rd wave although slow there was some light at the end of the tunnel because as slow as the vaccine is coming to Thailand it was coming at some point they could sit back and wait and delay until their production factory ramp up the Astra bad timing call it what you want but the 3rd wave came. I've said from the beginning on another forum you can't stop it sooner or later it will come in some form it has always been my view it will come within their own borders.
This time around the beginning they had no excuse to blame the foreigner but as time went on they find a reason, that reason is deflecting where the problem started now slowly pointing to the foreigners we are back to square one foreigners are the problem. So Yes their leaders will again impose what they think works best, put back the 14 days quarantine regardless of an outsider being vaccine or not, back to lockdowns, it isn't rocket science that the number of people coming in being quarantine or vaccinated isn't even close to those being infected the last few months. The numbers don't justify the blame!
Months, now out here on the Darkside they have been testing locals even before the 3rd breakout locals were talking even they felt something wasn't right. Right now it is panic this time locals are scared and their leaders are the blame. While they were worrying about tourist point fingers getting up each morning talking about a bubble, quality tourist, sandbox, did nothing constructive in a year to get ready for the outbreak now it is here they are ramping up talking about the " sputnik " In all their talk there has been no evidence of one case of a foreigner legally being quarantine spreading the virus.
This puppet leader has no idea what color socks he is wearing, doesn't even know he has already gotten the vaccine, Astra, that by science standard he doesn't have to wear a mask, puts himself out there to be an idiot doesn't even know the fine for not wearing a mask when he supposedly endorses the law, has to call to find out what an idiot! Sorry, just a rant!
To end, we are back to square one until the roll out the vaccine which will be mainly Astra, to their people and there is some herd immunity quickly and things change you won't see any leader here making the decision to open until China tells them it is okay.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555313]I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend.[/QUOTE]You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555313]I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, [/QUOTE]See gogo girls all the time at Buakhao market, usually on their days off or before work. The other good small market to see them is the one on South Pattaya Road between Tukcom and WS. If you're lucky enough to be in Pattaya the week or two when they have that huge market in the church near Second and South Pattaya Road, go there! You'll see lots of gogo girls shopping before work.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2555354]You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? [/QUOTE]
Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555365]
Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.[/QUOTE]If I get a return smile the signal is green. Don't be in a hurry when talking. My modus operendi. If she is free will join.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2555384]If I get a return smile the signal is green. Don't be in a hurry when talking. My modus operendi. If she is free will join.[/QUOTE]Thai girls will always be polite and kind. They will give you their line ID if you ask. They have a dead line ID they use to be polite and kind while at the same time not having anything to do with you. I could run a whole new social media network with the dead line IDs I've collected in Thailand.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2554974]For what? The beauty of Pattaya is that you can always call over a different chick. There is no need to go out to find one or have one live with you because of scarcity. The stinking virus made my life much better. I picked up more hobbies and made more money investing. It broadened my horizons rather than stick to doing the same old routine that I had been doing for years and had become complacent with.[/QUOTE]Expenses reduced, savings getting better and new hobbies developed, I agree my friend. But time is loosing and male menopause on door step. That is the worry. He he. One of old GF in Pattaya told me once that she had 80 year old boy friend. She want him to sleep always because when he wake up immediately he will be in action. I realy envy on him. He he.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2555229]OK, each to their own. Some people believe sitting down at a poker table is investing. Playing the FX markets is just another form of gambling even for the big boys, who have access to more information and more computer power than the rest of us could ever imagine. Hey, if your good at and make money call it whatever you want, but its not investing.[/QUOTE]Whether it's investing or not I imagine depends on how narrow you define investing. It's true trading futures is indeed high risk and I have had more margin calls than I care to remember. I've been at it a long time and I'm ahead. I'm not a technical chart trader, as you suggest you will get eaten alive in that space. I make judgments based on political developments both national and international and follow some basic investing principles, be patient, take your loss and don't get greedy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555354]You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.[/QUOTE]As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555313]I have never seen working ladies at the Buakhow market, unless you are simply saying that you pick up random ladies wherever they present themselves in Pattaya, like at Terminal 21 or Tukcom. I have been bar girls shopping at the market, but not there to find customers, often with their Thai boyfriend SNIP...[/QUOTE]The guys below have pretty much answered your question for me. All are long stay vets in Pattaya and know who is who, can pick up on cues and signs, and know the Pattaya scene better than most.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555354]You are supposed to be true to this, but you are acting new to this. Since when does a woman have to go out looking for a man for a man to find a woman? And Pattaya is the last place on earth that a chick needs to have a sign on that says she is available. I have been saying for years that a lot of gogo chicks go to the market for food when they wake up and before they go to work. Makes no difference though if guys are afraid to talk to them outside of a bar where they will pay 3 times more.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555365]See gogo girls all the time at Buakhao market, usually on their days off or before work. The other good small market to see them is the one on South Pattaya Road between Tukcom and WS. If you're lucky enough to be in Pattaya the week or two when they have that huge market in the church near Second and South Pattaya Road, go there! You'll see lots of gogo girls shopping before work. Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=XXL;2555388]Thai girls will always be polite and kind. They will give you their line ID if you ask. They have a dead line ID they use to be polite and kind while at the same time not having anything to do with you. I could run a whole new social media network with the dead line IDs I've collected in Thailand.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2555334]SNIP... But the market on Tuesday and Friday end of Baukhao which isn't even close to what it was pre-covid working girls living nearby need to shop and eat but they aren't working! Tough to explain in words here but in general there are certain things to look for and taking a guess? Now I wouldn't just assume go up and grab their ass like Online will take some work even a bit of stalking?
One, the manner of dress, tattoos, a problem if you look you aren't going to find isn't that always the case? The aisle where they sell women's clothes, cosmetics, particularly the cheap facial spas, even the food court area leading to Pattaya Tai. There is a second-hand market on the other side of the main market the congested area where the songthaew stop I've run into a number based on my stereotyping. Remember just because they are in the business doesn't mean while shopping they are open to being pick up 24/7 it takes work and luck.[/QUOTE]Monkeypaw can make reference to the one armed, shaved hair to one side of the head, missing teeth, too much make up wearing lady that walks up and down Buakhao, selling chewing gum. And I'm pretty certain all of those guys above will know who I am talking about. We just know the scene. Especially, since I have been here well over a year straight and with Pattaya at 90% contraction. Before it was 3-4 (one to two month long) trips a year as a tourist, no ThaiFriendly, and very very very few Beach Road adventures. It was Gogo bars or bust for me every night. Heck, I didn't even go to local markets like I do everyday now.
But LBM is right, for newbies, it will take some stalking and paying attention. Connect the dots and make the connection from the ThaiFriendly profile to the girl buying morning glory. Think of Pattaya as a big Jefferson High School, those in the game and can peep out who is who, are like the "Fonz. " The rest, the wannabes, are like Richie, Potsie, and Ralph, when it comes to chasing. And Lord forbid Chachi, who came here and is just stuck with Joanie. Any new kid in a new high school will be on the outside looking in until they become familiar with the nerds, jocks, cheerleaders, teachers, and everybody else. Remember it's all in the mind. The more you know, the further you go.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555403]As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.[/QUOTE]I'm with you.
Please Respect Thai girls.
I can give Mr. E a pass. He lives there.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2555243]Is America s Cardroom available in Thailand. Would make trips even more Fun.[/QUOTE]Yey! First question here I can actually answer. ACR is available in Thailand.
However note that like a lots of other things in Thailand, online gambling is in the "illegal but not enforced" category.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2555243]There are quite a few Poker players who win playing Poker online.
It is a Skill.[/QUOTE]Yes, though these days it's hard to make decent money at it by first-world standards. Actually some online pros move to Thailand for lifestyle / cost of living reasons.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555403]As I said, I see bargirl shopping at Buakhow market, but they are not soliciting customers. There are loads of women in Pattaya, but only a fraction are looking for customers; even bargirl can't be bothered outside of work, in many cases.
My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.[/QUOTE]If I am inspired to chat up a girl, P4P or not, at 11am next to the produce counters in my local market I would do it. Why not? Nothing to be shy about. If she responds it is also easy enough to exchange Line info to follow up later.
But I'm not going to be a slave to bird-dogging pussy everywhere I go throughout the day, choose where to shop for groceries based on where off duty go-go girls shop and so on. I went to that market because I have other things to do right now too; buy produce! LOL.
It turns out I am least interested in chasing and scoring pussy during the hours of the day when I have other things to do and most interested in chasing and scoring pussy when bars are typically open and bargirls are typically on the clock to meet customers.
I can't be alone in this thinking. Otherwise, go-go bars would be open 8am to 6pm instead of 8pm to 2am. Those latter hours are the times I am most interested in meeting and fucking girls instead of buying produce at the market.
I would rather pay more to meet and fuck girls during the hours of the evening I want to do that very thing than turn my regular day in and day out activities upside down and fuck them when I am least into it just to save a few baht. Not on a regular basis, that is.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555403]My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555365]Some men don't have the confidence and/or ability to do this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2555412]I'm with you. Please Respect Thai girls. I can give Mr. E a pass. He lives there.[/QUOTE]After all these years I think I am finally putting 2 and 2 together. This is like some 40 Year Old Virgin shit. When I was 13,14, and 15 me and my friends had season passes for Six Flags. They had a teen disco called Graffiti's. Every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we would go there and have a contest to see who could get the most phone numbers from chicks. In the Navy and college we would go to parties and clubs and meet chicks the same way.
For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.
But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. I am like wow; how have you guys managed to get through life?
I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there.
For me it is second nature to talk to members of the opposite sex, but it seems for others it is kryptonite. In Thailand, besides hookers, there are plenty of great chicks that are not hookers, but I guess people do not want to bother or disrespect them by saying hello, how are you and having a normal conversation.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555496]For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.
But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. [/QUOTE]Here is one of Explorer's first posts after "arriving" in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2520881]And, no, I won't be pursuing any freebies like the nonsense being posted here.[/QUOTE]Seems like he is one of the guys who doesn't believe you (or I) are capable of picking up a normal Thai girl.
I did something I no longer do very often, if at all. I sent Explorer a PM to meet up when he first arrived since I figured he may want a bit of help and see some girl's photos to see if they may be someone he wants to hook up with. He appeared to be a bit frustrated when he first arrived. Explorer didn't even have the common courtesy to respond to my PM. So much for me trying to be helpful.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2555480]But I'm not going to be a slave to bird-dogging pussy everywhere I go throughout the day, choose where to shop for groceries based on where off duty go-go girls shop and so on. I went to that market because I have other things to do right now too; buy produce! LOL.[/QUOTE]Thailand is no different than your home country. If you seem desperate and are going to seek a girl the girls will pick up on that. Just let it happen, not go look for it.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2555410] Think of Pattaya as a big Jefferson High School, those in the game and can peep out who is who, are like the "Fonz. " The rest, the wannabes, are like Richie, Potsie, and Ralph, when it comes to chasing. And Lord forbid Chachi, who came here and is just stuck with Joanie. [/QUOTE]
Aren't you too young to know these TV shows?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555403]My rule of thumb is, if they aren't obviously soliciting, don't bother them.[/QUOTE]
Wish this worked the other way around when I have no interest in a girl yet she keeps bothering me.
I have seen many guys in gogo bars and Thermae like this. If the girl doesn't make eye contact and smile at them they will assume the girl isn't interested in them.
[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2555432]Yes, though these days it's hard to make decent money at it by first-world standards. Actually some online pros move to Thailand for lifestyle / cost of living reasons.[/QUOTE]Too many bad beats in online poker. Played a bit last week. Got 2 Royal Flushes in about 5 tournaments total, once on the flop! Eliminated 2 players in 1 hand after they just played for nearly 2 hours. Pretty poor poker simulation but good for my hobby fund. I prefer to sign up for IRL tournaments or cash tables around the world.
Bit Siri.
We want top Quality Pattaya agogo girls for 1,000 baht.
To bleep with Free Normal eye glass shop or cosmetics girls.
Seems strange. Is anyone actually going to Pattaya to hook up with Cashiers at Food land.
Seems silly. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555626]Here is one of Explorer's first posts after "arriving" in Thailand.
Seems like he is one of the guys who doesn't believe you (or I) are capable of picking up a normal Thai girl.
I did something I no longer do very often, if at all. I sent Explorer a PM to meet up when he first arrived since I figured he may want a bit of help and see some girl's photos to see if they may be someone he wants to hook up with. He appeared to be a bit frustrated when he first arrived. Explorer didn't even have the common courtesy to respond to my PM. So much for me trying to be helpful.[/QUOTE]I am sure you can pick up as many "normal" Thai girls as you want.
As for not responding to your PM, sorry, I thought it was from some normal Thai girl chasing after me.
BTW, how is the weather in Pattaya today?
The province of Chonburi (where Pattaya is located) has issued a new set of regulations, closing down more businesses and making it difficult to leave the area without permission.
It's unclear what the impact is going to be on the Buakhow market we were talking about will be. There may be no bargirls shopping there for a while.
My mongering opportunities may be limited to having ladies come to my condo, since almost everything will be shut down.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555496]After all these years I think I am finally putting 2 and 2 together. This is like some 40 Year Old Virgin shit. When I was 13,14, and 15 me and my friends had season passes for Six Flags. They had a teen disco called Graffiti's. Every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we would go there and have a contest to see who could get the most phone numbers from chicks. In the Navy and college we would go to parties and clubs and meet chicks the same way.
For the past 16 years I have been on this website talking about exploits mostly with normal chicks that I did not have to pay in various countries and so many people have called bullshit. I have never understood that so many guys see fucking normal women as some kind of extraordinary feat.
But here we have a guy thinking he is bothering chicks if he talks to them without knowing for sure they are hookers. Another guy sees it as disrespectful to speak to women that may not be hookers. I am like wow; how have you guys managed to get through life?
I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there.
For me it is second nature to talk to members of the opposite sex, but it seems for others it is kryptonite. In Thailand, besides hookers, there are plenty of great chicks that are not hookers, but I guess people do not want to bother or disrespect them by saying hello, how are you and having a normal conversation.[/QUOTE]Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.
Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555630]Aren't you too young to know these TV shows?[/QUOTE]It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555496]SNIP..I never said go to the market and offer 1,000 baht to a chick you like. You approach them as any other normal man I know approaches a female on planet earth. You converse with them and feel them out to see where their head is and exchange information and go from there. In places like Buakhao Market, if it turns out the chick is a hooker, then you pay her. If it turns out she is just a normal chick then you don't and you establish friendships and relationships from there... SNIP[/QUOTE]This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep.
At the markets, you approach like a friend and pretend like know them from somewhere. Small talk with humor. Gage her interest and cues. Say that you changed your LINE. Get their LINE. Message them one day soliciting some sex for baht. Then immediately, apologize saying you accidentally thought you messaged someone else. And there is your bait. If they don't bite, apologize again and suggest you meet for some Crab Som Tum. Funny thing was back in the first lockdown last year, at Treetown and the Buakhao Markets, the girls approached me, always asking where am I going. They would do this even if I was just hanging out with people or eating. I thought there was an unwritten rule amongst hookers and Johns in Thailand about disturbing people when they are eating. But these girls don't give a damn nowadays. No respect for the rules of the game anymore. Anyways, here is Buakhao Market girl (I knew she was in the game from seeing her on TF and another member here had already hit it as well). She often goes there for take away at the Thai dessert stand. Her ams are about few centimeters shorter than Monkeypaw likes, but very doable, as she she makes it up in her ability to go deep. Just grab you a smoothie (preferably banana, no sugar, minimal milk) nearby, sit, chill, and relax. They will come. And if anybody is still in Pattaya, it's best to get out of that room to get some exercise and the markets are just dandy for that. My secret is to do your grocery shopping in small bits and pieces, not all at once. It's a deadly sin to be a sloth.
[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2555708]Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.
Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you are picking up the conversation but the topic has really nothing to do with Indians, race, or the motive of a non-pro.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2555718]It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.
This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep..[/QUOTE]How is this Helpful. You already knew she was a Hooker. LOL.
I'm asking for others. I have No desire to play games with any kind of Thai girl.
[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2555708]Have you considered the possibility those claiming it's difficult to get a nonpro girl are from India? Almost all the Indian men who visit Thailand are there for the hookers, and they don't have any desire or ability to meet normal women. This has been my observation when I lived in Bangkok many years before.
Maybe they think a normal nonpro girl who will talk to them has ulterior motives and only the ones clearly soliciting are safely going to offer their services for money? Who knows.[/QUOTE]Discussions about non-pros is off topic here. But some guys like to inflate their egos by claiming they score with civvies. The real story is that Thai civvies are pretty much like civvies in your home country, except you cannot speak their native language.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555678]I am sure you can pick up as many "normal" Thai girls as you want.[/QUOTE]If you knew me you have it all wrong. I'm actually against picking up Freebies and feel guys take advantage of available free girls. I've posted this many times.
Pretty sure I know who you are. Seen you sitting in bars. I didn't say hi since figured you didn't want to meet me.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555879]except you cannot speak their native language.[/QUOTE]
I think both Mr. E and I speak Thai pretty well.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555678]BTW, how is the weather in Pattaya today?[/QUOTE]No idea I left Thailand a couple of weeks after I PM'd you. Had to return for a funeral.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555879]Discussions about non-pros is off topic here. But some guys like to inflate their egos by claiming they score with civvies. [/QUOTE]LOL. Claiming to score with normal chicks? This shit would be funny if it was not so ridiculous and sad. Don't know how this is off topic. Somehow people always forget this is a website about finding women for sex, not just finding women to pay for sex. The website owner should have made clear in the statement that it is of course not possible on this green earth to have sex with women that are not hookers, and if that someone claims to have done it then he is a damn liar.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555909]Somehow people always forget this is a website about finding women for sex, not just finding women to pay for sex.[/QUOTE]I mean, the slogan for the site clearly states, "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac". That leads me to believe that the clear focus of the site is on paid for sex. Not that you can't talk about not saying, "How much"? But no doubt, the clear emphasis here is on "pay for play".
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2555908]If you knew me you have it all wrong. I'm actually against picking up Freebies and feel guys take advantage of available free girls. I've posted this many times.
Pretty sure I know who you are. Seen you sitting in bars. I didn't say hi since figured you didn't want to meet me.
I think both Mr. E and I speak Thai pretty well.
No idea I left Thailand a couple of weeks after I PM'd you. Had to return for a funeral.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didn't mean you don't speak Thai, I meant "you" in the sense of the readers here, who mostly don't speak Thai. As in, not so easy to have a relationship with a Thai lady if you don't speak Thai.
So, if you have seen me sitting in bars, I guess that means you now think I really have been to Pattaya. .
As for speaking Thai, I suck at it. I ran across this sentence in English, and couldn't translate it to Thai: "he eats white rice at nine o'clock". No fun.
Concerning picking up alleged civvies in Thailand, my practice is always to give them money, no matter what they say. So, if I never see them again, I don't feel like I have taken advantage of them.
Also, they can buy their Thai boyfriend a nice present with the money.
Nice catch. Will take her any day of the week and twice over the weekends hehehhehehehe.
How much did you pay ST / LT.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2555718]It's part of being eternal and ageless. Besides those shows are good for building morals and ethics.
This is what I am talking about when I keep saying there will always be some type of "game" required. The more you have, the better the success. BB is right, some just don't have the confidence or ability to game or peep out when someone else is gaming them. You have to be able to pick up on cues, body language, facial expressions, and tone of voice. But most importantly, like the great philosopher Tucker said, "Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth?" Go up to a girl in public and offer her money for sex while she is doing something else is idiotic. Heck, I don't do even that at a Gogo bar or Soi 6 bar, but Beach Road, yes! At the bars and clubs, I still have to gage them, pick up the vibes, and get the lowdown. Why? Because they all don't go with everybody and if you pressure them, it will just turn out shitty. It's just my mind process this information faster than most people. I call a girl for a drink, I see the tequila shot the waitress brings. By the time she comes down and sits with me, Monkeypaw drinks her tequila shot. Why? Tequila shot on first time call down means hustler. Big drink, at least she is willing to conversate and chill. Don't even waste my time anymore with that. At least I can work on my buzz, having paid for the drink anyways. If she wants, she can sit down just talk if she is really interested in letting me stick my dick in her. It's blunt, to the point, but very effective. Either way the drink ticket is hers to keep..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555879]Discussions about non-pros is off topic here. But some guys like to inflate their egos by claiming they score with civvies. The real story is that Thai civvies are pretty much like civvies in your home country, except you cannot speak their native language.[/QUOTE]I re read the forum rules and couldn't find it to be off topic.
I lived in Thailand from 1999 to 2015. And once I spoke Thai "normal" girls from stores (7/11 girls are easy in the provinces!) and waitresses in restaurants (again especially upcountry) are quite easy. For them it is the wow it is a foreigner, he speaks Thai, he is actually interested in a simple girl like me. Just chat them up a bit ask for their number and invite them to meet. It is usually very easy. Advantage is (if it is your style) most will let you do without condom, they will not even mention it. Most are no virgins anyway and have been sexually active in their villages from a young age. It is amazing what happens in the villages. When you stay in one for a few weeks it really opens your eyes. Everyone seems to go with everyone.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2555909]LOL. Claiming to score with normal chicks? This shit would be funny if it was not so ridiculous and sad. Don't know how this is off topic. Somehow people always forget this is a website about finding women for sex, not just finding women to pay for sex. The website owner should have made clear in the statement that it is of course not possible on this green earth to have sex with women that are not hookers, and if that someone claims to have done it then he is a damn liar.[/QUOTE]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!
Johnie,
[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!
Johnie,[/QUOTE]Nobody is going to be insulted if money and gifts are offered. Do not take advantage of Asian hospitality. I guarantee you the girls are not hard up for sex with a foreigner. They are hoping for a handout but too shy to mention it. It is because if their upbringing saying if you do it for money you are considered a prostitute.
Over the years I have met several girls over dating sites and had fun. Some have asked why I am offering money. I always say it is not as pay for fun but an offer as a friend. She can use it to for whatever purpose she wants to use it for. Believe me it is not just taxi fare.
Gloating over free sex in foreign countries is bad for us as a monger. We are for the most part not looking for a wife. Yes, we are taking advantage of vulnerable girls not by force but by friendship and remuneration for their efforts.
Money will always improve the life of one or many.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555956]Sorry, I didn't mean you don't speak Thai, I meant "you" in the sense of the readers here, who mostly don't speak Thai. As in, not so easy to have a relationship with a Thai lady if you don't speak Thai.[/QUOTE]Why are you coming up with 1 million excuses for why someone can not do something that you have never done? I have not always been able to speak Thai. My first time going to Pattaya was to see a chick that was a hairdresser that spoke English. After that I started dating a school teacher who now is married with 2 kids and living in the states. After that I was dating a real estate agent. All of this time I could not even say Hello, in Thai, but was visiting frequently. There is no need to speak Thai around Pattaya because most mfs that go there can speak English or they learn it fast once they get there. But you would never know that if you are scared to even speak to them.
The biggest and coolest thing that impresses me about Thai people is their willingness, fortitude, and ability to learn new languages. I was in the club one night with a Brazil shirt on and a Thai chick came up to me and started speaking Portuguese. I was shocked as shit. Turns out she was not a hooker and we started seeing each other.
Years ago when she was working at Mike's shopping some Brazilian lawyer came in there and met her. He ended up inviting her to Brazil. He kept her in an apartment. Turned out he was married, but he would not get her a ticket back home. She started learning Portuguese by watching TV and using an ENGLISH-Portuguese dictionary, not a Thai-Portuguese dictionary.
She got a job working in a bakery in Sao Paulo but eventually got busted by immigration, spent 6 months in immigration jail, and was shipped back to Thailand. But you never learn those types of stories if the only thing you are interested in saying to someone is how much and assuming you can not communicate otherwise.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2555995]Gloating over free sex in foreign countries is bad for us as a monger. We are for the most part not looking for a wife. Yes, we are taking advantage of vulnerable girls not by force but by friendship and remuneration for their efforts.
Money will always improve the life of one or many.[/QUOTE]This is an attitude that I have never understood. How is it being smug talking about meeting normal women? When I was in high school, college and the Navy I was not looking for a wife. Was I then also taking advantage of vulnerable females?
It is as if women do not like hanging out with and having relationships and sex with men and they must be compensated financially for doing so. What if the chick in the foreign country has more than you? Should she then be paying you? What if the foreign chick bought a ticket to come to your country to visit you? Do you need to give her money before she goes back home? What if you met the foreign chick on the plane going to your country and she was going to visit family, but you ended up hooking up with her? Do you need to give her money then? I have been in each of these situations and have always failed to give them money.
I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. It is 10:47 in the morning. A normal chick just left and went home. Should I have given her money? Afterall, she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. How much should I have given her? I am really fucked up concerning the etiquette of this thing.
Would you do the same with some random chick in your own country because she earns less than you? Money would improve her life as well. Where is this line drawn that it is okay to do normal male-female shit with this chick here without giving her money, but if you do it with that chick there, you should be sure to give her money or feel ashamed if you don't?
Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner. You dress for the type of party that you are attending. I am not wearing a mongering uniform to go on a date with a chick that is not a hooker.
I don't know if you're doing anything wrong, but it seems you are doing something right. . .
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016] she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016]
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Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner.
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[/QUOTE]When you get the invitation do you immediately ask if there is anything you can bring to add to the dinner; Wine? Dessert? Have you ever brought something in hand anyway even if they politely said no, it wasn't necessary? Ever insist that the next one is your treat and make good on the offer?
Or do you always show up empty handed, eat your fill and walk away thinking, "Great! Free food. Why doesn't everybody do it this way? They must be shy suckers. Next."?
I think that's the concept some if us are conveying here.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2555995] It is because if their upbringing saying if you do it for money you are considered a prostitute.
[/QUOTE]But isn't that the texbook definition of a prostitute, if a girl has sex with a man and receive payment for it, then she is a ho, no?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2555956]So, if you have seen me sitting in bars, I guess that means you now think I really have been to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Can't say it was you for sure. I've walked by the LK Metro bar you mention you visit a couple of times and there was only 1 guy sitting at the bar table facing LK Metro. As you know, many bars only have a single customer so I suspect that may have been you.
I never said you weren't in Pattaya.
re. speaking Thai it's a good ice breaker but really not necessary. I never let on that I understand enough Thai to get by. Always good to hear what girls say "behind your back". Very few girls I have met in Pattaya gogo bars do not speak English. Many have less of an Asian accent than many Asian Americans I know who have lived in America for 20+ years!
[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with this at all. Not ragging on you per se but there are many guys who don't pay a TF girl just because the girl doesn't bring up the subject of cash. Logically why does a sexy 19 year old Thai girl go on TF look to bang a 40+ year old likely not so good looking guy? Is it out of the goodness of their heart? Doubtful. They either expect some some of payment in the end whether that be monetary, you buying her a gift, feeding her, providing her with a nice air conditioned room to stay in, or she sees potential in you for the long game. You should always leave it up to the girl. Some girls are actually too shy to ask.
Remember in 2015 when the price was always "up to you". Don't see that any more!
They won't be offended if you offer them money. Having said that, I had a good connection with a bartender at a bar in PP a few years ago. She was a bartender unavailable to barfine. Just for laughs I kept going to her bar and asking her to go out knowing full well the answer was going to be no. To my shock she finally said yes and we went for a very expensive Japanese teppanyaki dinner. So expensive the girl didn't even want to enter the restaurant when we arrived indicating it was too much to spend on food. All I expected was a dinner and she go back to the bar to work that evening. She ended up not working and spent the night. In the morning I had a predicament. She was not a bargirl so do I pay her or not. I pulled out $100 US and she looked at me disgusted saying she was on a date on her own time. She refused to take the money. That was fine with me because I offered.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2556182]Can't say it was you for sure. I've walked by the LK Metro bar you mention you visit a couple of times and there was only 1 guy sitting at the bar table facing LK Metro. As you know, many bars only have a single customer so I suspect that may have been you.
I never said you weren't in Pattaya.
.[/QUOTE]That would be the Cave. I never sit outside there. Have aircon inside.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016]
I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. [/QUOTE]Awesome Mr E,How is your experience in Curitiba? I never visited Brazil. It is in my bucket list. Don't know will work out or not.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar!
Johnie,[/QUOTE]In my experience if I build up a good relation with a Thai girl they won't demand money. Of course they need money. Can get GFE and the relation can be extended for my convenience if pay properly.
Recently my travel experience is along with John Tron in Asian Sex Diary. He is in Vietnam now after his exploration in the covid period in Pattaya. He is giving me an excellent visual feast. It is not a promotional report. In this dry season something is better than nothing.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2556187]That would be the Cave. I never sit outside there. Have aircon inside.[/QUOTE]Interesting you say that, since all their hostesses and "others" used to sit outside from what I've seen. Maybe there is some hidden action going on behind indoors. That place just spooks me bc of its dark design, so I never bothered.
[QUOTE=Johnie;2555988]Mr. E, the last four girls I met on TF all provided good or very good sex without payment. Money was never mentioned, they were not hookers and I feel that they would be insulted if money was offered. I do not have your level of experience with local girls, but Sir, I am not a liar! Johnie,[/QUOTE]You mean they just showed up from TF, fucked and left. Nothing with any kind of monetary value was involved, dinner, taxi, coffee? I don't even have that power. An investment or exchange had to always occur with me.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2555963]Nice catch. Will take her any day of the week and twice over the weekends hehehhehehehe.
How much did you pay ST / LT.[/QUOTE]1100 short time. I don't do long anymore. I like my alone time. Makes shitting for relaxing.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2556194]Recently my travel experience is along with John Tron in Asian Sex Diary. He is in Vietnam now after his exploration in the covid period in Pattaya. He is giving me an excellent visual feast. It is not a promotional report. In this dry season something is better than nothing.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Not sure why some people would never want to do more extensive research beforehand. Alrighty then, to each his or her own. Different strokes?
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[QUOTE=Thampi62;2556193]In my experience if I build up a good relation with a Thai girl they won't demand money. Of course they need money. Can get GFE and the relation can be extended for my convenience if pay properly.[/QUOTE]Yep, you can get a rent-a-wife in Thailand. Sometimes for the rest of your life.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2556219]Yep, you can get a rent-a-wife in Thailand. Sometimes for the rest of your life.[/QUOTE]Sorry friend I can't hold one more than a week. He he. Purely polygamous.
[QUOTE=RunMann;2556177]But isn't that the texbook definition of a prostitute, if a girl has sex with a man and receive payment for it, then she is a ho, no?[/QUOTE]All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2556257]All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.[/QUOTE]And then keep paying when they get divorced!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2556257]All men pay for sex whether with cash, dates, gifts or just time (time is money). Married men pay the most of all.[/QUOTE]If it flys, floats, or fucks: lease it, don't buy it. Because it is not the cost of entry that will kill you, it is the maintenance.
SL.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016]
Everybody does not need to be bought. Some folks are just normal people. Just because I pay to eat at restaurants all the time, does not mean I should pay at the end of the meal whenever a female invites me to her house for dinner. You dress for the type of party that you are attending. I am not wearing a mongering uniform to go on a date with a chick that is not a hooker.[/QUOTE]There are mongering situations and dating situations. Last time I checked this is a mongering forum. On mongering tour I have met normal girls and hookers. I have offered money for both. If they refuse so be it. I met a young bank employee in Bangkok. We traveled all over Asia had great time together. Never offered money because I knew she would be offended. Did buy her gifts though. She bought me some Thai gifts including collections of Thai music.
I strongly believe on mongering trips help the girls.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2556451]There are mongering situations and dating situations. Last time I checked this is a mongering forum. On mongering tour I have met normal girls and hookers. I have offered money for both. If they refuse so be it. I met a young bank employee in Bangkok. We traveled all over Asia had great time together. Never offered money because I knew she would be offended. Did buy her gifts though. She bought me some Thai gifts including collections of Thai music.
I strongly believe on mongering trips help the girls.[/QUOTE]If I wanted a girlfriend, I would stay home.
I want no strings attached sex. Right now, I know there are plenty of unemployed bargirls wandering around Pattaya, the question is where to hook up with them, and how much to pay.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2556451]There are mongering situations and dating situations.[/QUOTE]In both situation the girl will go back to her original stand once the contract is over. So ultimately both are same. One can create the benefit of attitude, GFE, with the way of approach and money.
Totally worth every BHT. She is cute as hell and a decent body to support it. I hope every bit of energy was drained out.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2556215]
1100 short time. I don't do long anymore. I like my alone time. Makes shitting for relaxing.
[URL]https://www.imagefap.com/profile/realjohntron[/URL][/QUOTE]
Just bought Levitra from an Indian vendor on walking street, next to Soi 12. Twenty tablets for 1500 baht. French on one side of the box, just like the ones I bought in Bangkok one year ago. Will report later if they're duds.
[QUOTE=XXL;2556580]Just bought Levitra from an Indian vendor on walking street, next to Soi 12. Twenty tablets for 1500 baht. French on one side of the box, just like the ones I bought in Bangkok one year ago. Will report later if they're duds.[/QUOTE]Actually the shop was on Beach Road, next to Mike's, but Soi 12 is close by. (We just had dinner where we were given the privilege to sit down and dine in, although there is supposed to be a TAKE AWAY ONLY ordinance). XXL pulled out his VIP card at the restaurant. Anyways, the vendor has some cool watches as well. I don't wear one, but I know people all over the world that bask in the joy of wearing fake designer watches. Funny thing is that these guys are really wealthy, so nobody questions them at all. Who is going to say anything to the guy in the club with the VIP table, bunch of expensive bottles, and a fake Hublot?
Same supplier for the watches is also for my Kamagra Jellys. So I get 750 baht per box, and resell them back for $300 USD or 9,000 baht each. Funnier thing is the guy who buys it, makes about $500 off each box. Nutty Fucking Buddy! Usually I flip 4 boxes a month for a hobby that nets me 25,000 baht a month. It gets me out and about, in order to get each box gift wrapped and shipped. Exercise. Life is all about supply and demand, and using knowledge as power. Keep the stupid in the dark and you have power over them. Lucky that Monkeypaw shares a shit load of information to random strangers.
Just got to be smart enough to look deeper in the words. You 'll find some serious hidden treasures and gems. Wonder if I use that 25,000 baht from this side hobby for pussy, is that considered free pussy?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2556016]I am in Curitiba, Brazil right now. It is 10:47 in the morning. A normal chick just left and went home. Should I have given her money? Afterall, she insisted on paying for my hotel room for the 2 days that I am here, in addition to screwing my brains out and licking my ass all night. [/QUOTE]Right on, who says there is no free pussy? On a warm Bangkok night as the drizzle was becoming a downpour the Bentley Continental pulled up alongside Franciscass. The tinted back window rolled down and a winsome voice called out "Hey handsome man, did you forget your umbrella, come on get in before you start to look like a drowned rat'. She was I guessed mid-thirties amazingly beautiful sexy and so very funny. From the customized wine rack she opened a bottle of Bordeaux and we merrily drank, chatted and laughed together on the way to her gated estate across the river. Now I'm not one that gets gratuitous pleasure describing what happens between the sheets but I have to mention her Shanghai squeeze was the most amazing I have ever experienced. There was a brief period when I thought she would never let me out of her perfect pussy. I stayed the night, had breakfast in bed and after one more romp for the road we chatted some more. So what was going on, well it was simple, this was how she got her kicks. She told me she had visited Pattaya once or twice without finding anybody interesting. Said something like being there felt like living at the back of the mountain whatever that meant. Must be some local saying. She preferred Bangkok, felt ex pats there were more urbane and sophisticated. We then happily agreed that this was it, we would leave it as just what it was, a beautiful memorable one off. A goodbye kiss and the chauffeur dropped Franciscass home.
[QUOTE=XXL;2556580]Just bought Levitra from an Indian vendor on walking street, next to Soi 12. Twenty tablets for 1500 baht. French on one side of the box, just like the ones I bought in Bangkok one year ago. Will report later if they're duds.[/QUOTE]I'm looking forward to your Levitra report. Is it as effective as the other boner pills? How bad are the side effects?
When I bought the stuff from a street vendor on Sukhumvit Soi 11, there were zero side effects and zero help with erection. Perhaps mine was fake.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2556616]I'm looking forward to your Levitra report. Is it as effective as the other boner pills? How bad are the side effects?
When I bought the stuff from a street vendor on Sukhumvit Soi 11, there were zero side effects and zero help with erection. Perhaps mine was fake.[/QUOTE]For some reason, Levitra gives me cold-like symptoms. I much prefer the jelly Kamagra. I get it on Soi Honey or sometimes Soi 6, there is generally someone selling it for 800 baht.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2556810]For some reason, Levitra gives me cold-like symptoms. I much prefer the jelly Kamagra. I get it on Soi Honey or sometimes Soi 6, there is generally someone selling it for 800 baht.[/QUOTE]Is the reason no one is mentioning Cialis because it isn't available in Thailand, it is much more expensive, or they don't like it? I haven't tried Levitra or Kamagra but for the bodybuilding and sex aspect I've been taking about 5 MG of Cialis a day.
For me the opposite.
Levitra all good.
Kamagra jelly I go to the toilets and vomit.
Maybe a fake kamagra but I buy in the pharmacy on sud road that looked ok.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2556606]Right on, who says there is no free pussy? On a warm Bangkok night as the drizzle was becoming a downpour the Bentley Continental pulled up alongside Franciscass. The tinted back window rolled down and a winsome voice called out "Hey handsome man, did you forget your umbrella, come on get in before you start to look like a drowned rat'. She was I guessed mid-thirties amazingly beautiful sexy and so very funny. From the customized wine rack she opened a bottle of Bordeaux and we merrily drank, chatted and laughed together on the way to her gated estate across the river. Now I'm not one that gets gratuitous pleasure describing what happens between the sheets but I have to mention her Shanghai squeeze was the most amazing I have ever experienced. There was a brief period when I thought she would never let me out of her perfect pussy. I stayed the night, had breakfast in bed and after one more romp for the road we chatted some more. So what was going on, well it was simple, this was how she got her kicks. She told me she had visited Pattaya once or twice without finding anybody interesting. Said something like being there felt like living at the back of the mountain whatever that meant. Must be some local saying. She preferred Bangkok, felt ex pats there were more urbane and sophisticated. We then happily agreed that this was it, we would leave it as just what it was, a beautiful memorable one off. A goodbye kiss and the chauffeur dropped Franciscass home.[/QUOTE]You sir have the makings of a novelist. Very appropriate report.
[QUOTE=Cohend386;2556837]Is the reason no one is mentioning Cialis because it isn't available in Thailand, it is much more expensive, or they don't like it? I haven't tried Levitra or Kamagra but for the bodybuilding and sex aspect I've been taking about 5 MG of Cialis a day.[/QUOTE]I have a buddy who prefers Cialis so I canvassed lower Suk a few years ago for the possibilities. I only checked pharmacies and not street vendors. Representative pricing:
Real legit Cialis: 3,000 baht for 4 pills (20 MG).
Generic brand (made in India) Apcalis: 300 baht for 4 pills (20 MG).
The feedback I got from my friend was the generic Apcalis works fine.
SL.
Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557064]Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.[/QUOTE]Yes, of course. The girl is by far the most powerful trigger to getting and maintaining an erection. But looks alone won't work. She also needs to have a nice touch, kiss and know how to apply them. If the girl has that skill and applies it properly, reasonable compromises can be made on looks and still get the job done.
But at my age even if all the elements are there in the girl I'm going to take a boner pill if I have been having sessions to completion three days in a row already, just to make sure. Living in Bangkok it iis rare for me to go more than 2 days in a row without a session to completion. So I am taking boner pills at some point during the week and therefore can't really say with certainty what it is like to have no traces at all of active ingredient in my system.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557064]Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.[/QUOTE]I just use Kamagra for recreational use, don't need it for sex. I have not found a lady for whom I couldn't get it up, but that may be due to my selection criteria. Maybe a 300 pounder would cause my problems.
The issue I face is time, if its a short Mexican session, I may opt for a HJ or BJ to finish on time. If I don't face a time constraint, I can actually finish sooner.
On my last time in Thailand, I was there for 3 months, and had sex frequently with a longtime barfine. Her deal was that she wanted to finish before I did, so if I finished before her, it was the end of the world. So I had to hang in there until she finished or gave up trying. Typically, I would finish within 3 minutes of her letting me know she was done. Never used Kamagra over the 3 months.
Maybe that will change as I get older.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557064]Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.[/QUOTE]At age 50 I didn't need boner pills, but sometimes used them to delay my finish. By age 60 I needed a pill for sessions #2 and #3 of the day. By age 63 a 3rd session of the day was seldom possible, regardless of pills or girl hotness. At age 66 I started to prefer a pill for session #1, unless I hadn't had sex in at least 2 days. Now I'm even older and use a pill every time, just to make sure it works.
The hotter non-moms seem to have the tightest pussies, so being rock hard is absolutely necessary. They can usually get me hard without a pill, but not hard enough to penetrate many times with power. Need a pill for extra tight pussies even if the girl is hot and does everything right.
Using a condom also makes the pill more necessary.
As Eih Tooms mentioned, a trace of the pill might last some time. For me, Viagra will be very effective for about 20-24 hours and is still noticeable at 48 hours (including the nasty side effects). Cialis lasts much longer. I'll use 100 mg for my first day in Thailand and hope to get 2 pops. Subsequent days I'll take 50 mg and get either 1 or 2 pops.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2557083]I just use Kamagra for recreational use, don't need it for sex. [/QUOTE]Care to explain. I don't understand any pharmacological uses apart from sex.
Although an old tramp wandering around the mall in a dirty mac comes to mind?
Seen the most Horrible bargirl in Pattaya last night. Livestream Playpen.
It what you think of when you read here about 500 baht girl.
OMG!
[QUOTE=EdSetra;2557110]Care to explain. I don't understand any pharmacological uses apart from sex.
Although an old tramp wandering around the mall in a dirty mac comes to mind?[/QUOTE]Or an old tramp wandering around a bar filled with naked women.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2557120]Seen the most Horrible bargirl in Pattaya last night. Livestream Playpen.[/QUOTE]If we Livestream today it doesn't mean we are going to spot her as she may not be working and getting a nose job, eyelids done, liposuction, etc. That way maybe she can charge 550 baht. Her name or number could have helped too. Some guys on here may think your 500 baht girl is hot.
You could have at least made a screenshot for us and posted it.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557260]If we Livestream today it doesn't mean we are going to spot her as she may not be working and getting a nose job, eyelids done, liposuction, etc. That way maybe she can charge 550 baht. Her name or number could have helped too. Some guys on here may think your 500 baht girl is hot.
You could have at least made a screenshot for us and posted it.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]I gave a critique of Desire Benz vs. Foxy BiMint recently. I don't know why it didn't get approved for viewing here.
One main theme going on. It's so hard to support a Girl. The bars following in the footsteps of immigration. Too complicated to buy a $6 drink.
1. Join Nightwish site.
2. Join Transfer Wise.
3. Fund transfer Wise.
4. Email bar.
McDonald's doesn't do that. Buy Dollar burger check out as Guest.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557064]Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.[/QUOTE]A weekend pill, Tadalafil, will give me an extra confidence in action. Whatever happens in the bed the the anatomic action of the organ(erection) will be steady and stable. My experience.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557064]Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.[/QUOTE]In my mid-50's and it's never a problem for the first pop, but I like 90 minutes sessions and want to pop twice so having a little bit of help there is always a good thing.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2556606]But have to mention her Shanghai squeeze was the most amazing I have ever experienced. [/QUOTE]Love your prose, reads like a movie. I have been on a quest for finding woman practicing this noble art, but the two practitioners are far and few between the best I could find as a mild grip and there were Thai WG based in Dubai. If members confirm that this is a bit more in Thailand, I will make sure to reactivate my detective skills to find the gems who practice it on my next trip.
Thanks!
I thought I would add my 2 cents (maybe less) worth in this conversation. First I am 80 years old but take care of myself, workout, etc. , but am told I look about mid 60's. Maybe people are just being kind? Anyway I visit China (before Covid) 4 to 5 times per year for my business. I have tried many of the mongering escapades available in China (oh, for the good old days in ChangAn or ChangPing), and find my my preferred style of entertainment is a KTV. Take you time, get to know your companion, sing, dance, play games, drink, and then get back to hotel or apartment with your choice of the night.
I usually take 50 MG of V sometime in the KTV and then I am ready for the later fun. I may take another 50 MG back at the hotel. Being average in the penis area, I have never had any problem of invading paradise. One pop is about all I am good for at night, but if the girl is really good there can be another after about 1 hour rest time. Morning will usually bring another pop if I work at it.
My routine is to arrive in the Chinese Hotel after about 30 hours of leaving the USA. I will message a regular to meet me after I arrive which, by the time I check in, is about midnight. A nice shower and then a romp and pop, and get ready for work the next morning. Rest time after a day at work then KTV time with my friends. My record, a couple years ago, was 10 different girls in ten days. Don't know if I could manage that now, age does catch up with you no matter how we fight it.
If I want a massage, it is a veggie massage, next in line for a quickie doesn't do anything for me and why would I waste a pop on a HJ.
So overall, my suggestion is: (for us older mongers): Take your time, enjoy what you have, try 1/2 a V or see or K fairly early in the evening, then the other half maybe 1/2 hour before action. Works for this 80 year old.
[QUOTE=PlushTiger;2557408]Love your prose, reads like a movie. I have been on a quest for finding woman practicing this noble art, but the two practitioners are far and few between the best I could find as a mild grip and there were Thai WG based in Dubai. If members confirm that this is a bit more in Thailand, I will make sure to reactivate my detective skills to find the gems who practice it on my next trip.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Very few Thai gals kegel it seems.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557064]Can you guys forego these drugs and get it up if the girl is hot enough? I don't take these drugs but I know I can't get it up if the girl is mediocre. Been this way since my early 30s.[/QUOTE]Two years ago I pulled the hottest girl from an apartment in Kyiv and walked her back to my own apartment a few blocks away. She whispered to me "I've never done this before". I said whaaaaat? You've never had sex with a guy? She laughed and said "no of course I've had sex but never had sex for money before, this is my first night working in the apartment". Wow I was happy and excited. Had her put on lingerie as I do with most of the girls I see. We got into the bed and started to kiss and play and suddenly I realized I didn't get hard. AT ALL! OM f-ing G. I forgot to take a pill before I went over to pick out the girl. Brainfart! I told her I just want to kiss and cuddle since this was her "first time". She thought I was one hell of a gentleman LOL if she only knew. After we finished and she went into the bathroom I quickly popped a pill. Then told her I wanted to walk her back to the apartment with my umbrella since it was drizzling. Then I went back upstairs "for a beer". Picked out another girl that was nowhere near as attractive as the first. Got her back to my own apartment and when we got on the bed I was hard as a teenager. The pills have changed my life. Doubt I would be in this hobby without them. I buy them in Medellin where generic Viagra is about a dollar per 100 MG right now. I use 50 MG one hour before the action. Once I bought pills from the street vendors in Pattaya and I shouldn't have bought so many because I had to throw them in the garbage. They did nothing for me so clearly they were just fakes in fancy packaging. I'm the perfect guinea pig to test fakes from real ones LOL.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2557564]Once I bought pills from the street vendors in Pattaya and I shouldn't have bought so many because I had to throw them in the garbage. They did nothing for me so clearly they were just fakes[/QUOTE]Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
Be careful about carrying "medication" without a prescription over borders. At least learn which medication and quantity are allowed in each country. Not sure if these PEDs count but better safe than sorry. Singapore and Indonesia come to mind as two countries with the harshest penalties.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557571]Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
Be careful about carrying "medication" without a prescription over borders. At least learn which medication are allowed in each country. Not sure if these PEDs count but better safe than sorry. Singapore and Indonesia come to mind as two countries with the harshest penalties.[/QUOTE]No idea about the effect of heat but I doubt that was the problem. I'm quite sure I got took and will never buy outside of a pharmacy again.
Guess I got lucky to not get checked as I traveled to those counties with some pills. I know Singapore has some strange rules like no chewing gum but I'd be surprised if ED pills are not allowed any country in the world since the ruling class would want them as well. I worry most when carrying larger quantities from Colombia back to the USA but they don't ask questions about ED drugs and I've never been searched.
[QUOTE=MrClen;2557491]
So overall, my suggestion is: (for us older mongers): Take your time, enjoy what you have, try 1/2 a V or see or K fairly early in the evening, then the other half maybe 1/2 hour before action. Works for this 80 year old.[/QUOTE]Excellent narration and highly encouraging back up. Thank you sir.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557571]Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
[/QUOTE]The Indian vendor ushered me into his back room for me to see for myself what he had on offer (not just boner pills, also vibrators, watches etc.). The air-conditioning was impeccable. Probably superior to that of many high-street pharmacies.
I've just popped one of my newly-bought "Levitras". Results should be in any minute know.
On another note, ExpressVPN ceased to work on AIS's WiFi today. Had been having problems on and off these last days. Support asked me to change the protocol to Lightway UDP. Seems to work. No VNP, no xHamster lol.
P.S. Results just in. These Levitras are very weak. Will try 2 next time. Weaker than the old ones.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557571]Like many medications, don't these "drugs" lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to extreme heat?
[/QUOTE]I once unintentionally left a bottle of Viagra in my car for about a week during the hot summer. The sun must have heated the pills to be well above proper storage temperature for quite some time. Those pills worked without issue.
Years ago I stock piled Viagra because I didn't know when my insurance would stop paying for them. Those pills worked fine at least 5 years beyond their expiration date.
[QUOTE=XXL;2557583]The Indian vendor ushered me into his back room for me to see for myself what he had on offer (not just boner pills, also vibrators, watches etc.). The air-conditioning was impeccable. Probably superior to that of many high-street pharmacies.
I've just popped one of my newly-bought "Levitras". Results should be in any minute know.
On another note, ExpressVPN ceased to work on AIS's WiFi today. Had been having problems on and off these last days. Support asked me to change the protocol to Lightway UDP. Seems to work. No VNP, no xHamster lol.
P.S. Results just in. These Levitras are very weak. Will try 2 next time. Weaker than the old ones.[/QUOTE]I've never liked taking the viagra pill so years back and I mean years told to give Kamagra Gel it worked fairly well but the majority of the time it gave me a headache, felt after like I had a vise around my eyes and forehead so I cut back and took half and threw the rest away. Another problem once at a GoGo, I BF went to the bathroom in the private stall pull out my gel pack while trying to open it shot all over my shirt.
A few years back a friend who traveled to India a lot for business brought be back some samples of Tadalia and another similar to Kamagra or the other way around. They were 8-10 strips kept in a small plastic container all you had to do was put the strip in your mouth and it would melt real easy effective didn't have any of the side effects at least for me. The big drawback I would put the plastic container in the refrigerator they ended up sticking together I would need to peel them off each other but it was worth it. Thereafter lost contact try looking everywhere in Bangkok and Pattaya for them told later only in India?
Next time you venture ask is they ever heard of the product basically it was like those Listerin breath strips which I think they discontinue for the same reason.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2557608]I once unintentionally left a bottle of Viagra in my car for about a week during the hot summer. The sun must have heated the pills to be well above proper storage temperature for quite some time. Those pills worked without issue.
Years ago I stock piled Viagra because I didn't know when my insurance would stop paying for them. Those pills worked fine at least 5 years beyond their expiration date.[/QUOTE]I agree some pharmaceuticals can continue to be effective if stored at sub-optimal conditions, or past their expected expiration dates.
But for those who regularly buy off the street: why take a chance if the pharmacy price and the street vendor price is the same? With a legit pharmacy you could reasonably expect better handling and storage, and that the product is not fake.
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2557626]I agree some pharmaceuticals can continue to be effective if stored at sub-optimal conditions, or past their expected expiration dates.
But for those who regularly buy off the street: why take a chance if the pharmacy price and the street vendor price is the same? With a legit pharmacy you could reasonably expect better handling and storage, and that the product is not fake.
SL.[/QUOTE]Pharmacy price for Kamagra - 1200 baht.
Street price for Kamagra - 800 baht.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2557742]Pharmacy price for Kamagra - 1200 baht.
Street price for Kamagra - 800 baht.[/QUOTE]How many pills and what dosage were you getting for 1200 baht? Jelly or pills?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557749]How many pills and what dosage were you getting for 1200 baht? Jelly or pills?[/QUOTE]I bought a box of 50 100 MG Kamagra jelly for 800 baht from the street vendor on Sukhumvit in Bangkok a couple of years ago. I have not seen any 50 pills box.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2557075]Yes, of course. The girl is by far the most powerful trigger to getting and maintaining an erection. But looks alone won't work. She also needs to have a nice touch, kiss and know how to apply them. If the girl has that skill and applies it properly, reasonable compromises can be made on looks and still get the job done.
But at my age even if all the elements are there in the girl I'm going to take a boner pill if I have been having sessions to completion three days in a row already, just to make sure. Living in Bangkok it iis rare for me to go more than 2 days in a row without a session to completion. So I am taking boner pills at some point during the week and therefore can't really say with certainty what it is like to have no traces at all of active ingredient in my system.[/QUOTE]Hi ET. I was following the Thai forums closely last summer as I expected to spend winter of 2021 between BKK and Pattaya. But alas Covid changed my plans and I quit reading the forums. I recall you had just started a testosterone treatment about a year ago. Could you please provide a synopsis of how that worked out for you and if you continue today and would recommend it to others?
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2557789]Hi ET. I was following the Thai forums closely last summer as I expected to spend winter of 2021 between BKK and Pattaya. But alas Covid changed my plans and I quit reading the forums. I recall you had just started a testosterone treatment about a year ago. Could you please provide a synopsis of how that worked out for you and if you continue today and would recommend it to others?[/QUOTE]Sure. I did 3 of the 90 day injections at the HE Clinic and my testosterone level, which started out normal for a man of any age, got to be very high so I did not get a 4th injection after that. It has now been more than 2 months since my last injection.
My goal had been to increase my libido a tad considering all the opportunities to help ladies in financial need these days and not to solve or cure a medical problem or lack of normal libido for a man of my age, 68.
Perhaps that is why I did not feel a significant difference in my randiness or horniness during the treatments. And that was another reason I stopped getting the injections. I felt only a very subtle improvement in pleasure and urgency to fuck, which could just as well have been nothing more than a psychological effect. But not enough for me to justify continuing the treatments.
Also, any improvement I did feel at times seemed much more the result of another factor I have mentioned lately; being with the right lady with the right touch.
I now believe more than ever that the right lady, one who is either good at her job or simply wants to be good for me because she likes me, likes having sex with me and wants to be good at it is far and away the most important factor in getting me interested, up, ready, in and off in the best way possible. More important than the injections, the boner pills, anything.
I did not suffer any negative side effects so there is no reason for me to recommend against the treatments for anyone who thinks he might benefit from them. And it is always possible I might resume the injections someday for that reason as well.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2557768]I bought a box of 50 100 MG Kamagra jelly for 800 baht from the street vendor on Sukhumvit in Bangkok a couple of years ago. I have not seen any 50 pills box.[/QUOTE]I bought these fake Viagra several times in Pattaya from the Belly Shop street vendors. Paid them 500 THB for the box with 30 Pills and they work great!
Would buy them again every time.
They also have fake Levitra in these same sized bottles for sale.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2557749]How many pills and what dosage were you getting for 1200 baht? Jelly or pills?[/QUOTE]Kamagra jelly is 50 to the box.
Loads of "women" out on Soi Buakhow tonight. At least, they looked like women.
No lack of closed massage shops with one lady sitting outside looking for customers.
Desire Bar soi 6 must be more profitable livestreaming than regular operation.
No way are those girls in real life getting huge amounts of drinks bought.
Online it's like a drink buying factory.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2557742]Pharmacy price for Kamagra - 1200 baht.
Street price for Kamagra - 800 baht.[/QUOTE]I pay 200 for a package of 4.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2558037]I pay 200 for a package of 4.[/QUOTE]When my friends come I get them Kamagra pills at the same price. That works out to be 50 baht per pill but the pills can be cut in half so it's 25 baht per use. No one has complained of ineffective or fake pills from my pharmacy.
At 1200 baht for 50 Kamagra Jelly that works out to be 24 baht per use. I assume you can't split the jelly.
Is one more potent than the other?
[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2557902]I bought these fake Viagra several times in Pattaya from the Belly Shop street vendors. Paid them 500 THB for the box with 30 Pills and they work great!
[/QUOTE]
After you cut them in half that's only 8 baht per use!
Where is Belly Shop? Never heard of it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558080]
At 1200 baht for 50 Kamagra Jelly that works out to be 24 baht per use. I assume you can't split the jelly.
Is one more potent than the other?
[/QUOTE]Another BM here suggested to dilute it in water. I did that but it is more about convenience and I don't need more than 50 MG. I think it is as effective except I get less red eyes. I remember that the pill form generic is a lot cheaper in one popular pharmacy in Tijuana too. You can also order the pills direct from India at lower price.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558080]
Where is Belly Shop? Never heard of it.[/QUOTE]I think belly shop is about the street vendors carrying things in the belly tray. He he.
What is the Kamagra gelly? Is it an applicator or sublingual or chewable capsule. Never heard about it.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2558108]I think belly shop is about the street vendors carrying things in the belly tray. He he.
What is the Kamagra gelly? Is it an applicator or sublingual or chewable capsule. Never heard about it.[/QUOTE]It's in a container like for McDonald's ketchup, I don't know what to call it.
Oops, they have changed the container. Now it has a solid backing. You fold the backing, and it splits open in the middle, and the jelly pops out a bit.
Live streaming doesn't produce money for the ladies as much as you might think. I watched a show recently, and there were long stretches with no customers.
The people in charge have to watch out for idiots, in order to block them.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2558130]Live streaming doesn't produce money for the ladies as much as you might think. I watched a show recently, and there were long stretches with no customers.
The people in charge have to watch out for idiots, in order to block them.[/QUOTE]So sad their payment system is Outrageous complex. Ez peasy to increase sales.
A new girl Som showed up at Foxy last night. Quite attractive. Lighter skin. Bigger than Small girls so common. LOL.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558080]Where is Belly Shop? Never heard of it.[/QUOTE]There where always some guys in LK Metro Area selling these things from there Belly in 2019. In my Language its called Belly Shop haha. For Understanding I added a Picture.
These Fake Levitra I also bought from them for 500 THB for one Bottle with 30 Pills and they also work great!
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2557262]1. Join Nightwish site.
2. Join Transfer Wise.
3. Fund transfer Wise.
4. Email bar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558156]So sad their payment system is Outrageous complex. [/QUOTE]This is "Outrageous complex"? It would take you 5-10 minutes max! If you have good multitasking skills you could do it at the same time you are jerking off.
How do you propose it be done? Make a suggestion to Mr. Flowers.
Bit Siri
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558410]This is "Outrageous complex"? It would take you 5-10 minutes max! If you have good multitasking skills you could do it at the same time you are jerking off.
How do you propose it be done? Make a suggestion to Mr. Flowers.
Bit Siri[/QUOTE]Streamlabs.
One site. Order your Groceries, check out with Visa -Done.
I have to desire to be a Nightwish Member. LOL.
Since all you guys have been talking about it, I decided to go on a few of the and ask if any of them wanted a date. I said I would tip them good and pay for the taxi. But, I don't think my message every got through to the girls, which of course sucks.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558410]This is "Outrageous complex"? It would take you 5-10 minutes max! If you have good multitasking skills you could do it at the same time you are jerking off.
How do you propose it be done? Make a suggestion to Mr. Flowers.
Bit Siri[/QUOTE]The Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.
Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?
[URL]https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69[/URL]
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558486]The Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.
Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?
[URL]https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69[/URL][/QUOTE]Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2558129]It's in a container like for McDonald's ketchup, I don't know what to call it.
[/QUOTE]British people would call it a sachet. There is no specific American word, it's just a packet.
[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2558662]British people would call it a sachet. There is no specific American word, it's just a packet.[/QUOTE]We, Americans call it ketchup packet.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558638]Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure that market has a limited audience.
Like you, I've spent a big zero in the 25+ years I've been mongering. Now, if you were to ask me how much I spent on live mongering, it's a different story.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558638]Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.[/QUOTE]I am spending time watching ladies in Pattaya live-streaming. As in, I am watching them live, not on the Internet. So, if I like one of them, I just buy them a drink, or enough drinks until they are naked, and we go to the room next door. That seems to be more fun than watching them online.
I can see the screen where the customers buy the ladies drinks, there are not as many orders as you might think.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2558712] So, if I like one of them, I just buy them a drink, or enough drinks until they are naked, and we go to the room next door. [/QUOTE]I read here it's next to impossible to sign up to buy them drinks!
A guy 5 feet from the girls should have no problem buying Drinkie. LOL.
Besides guys telling girls how Beautiful they are. Think all of us are Hansum boy. LOL.
The topic du jour is how much of a Rear end pain it is to buy a Drink.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558486]The Soi 6 management and Nightwish group don't realize they are opening up Pandora's Box when they introduced the live streaming. The girls will catch on and will find guys outside the country to upload content or use a VPN to bypass all the Thai laws. If it's easier to make money online on their own time, they will make the jump. Transfer wise was a secret that should have been kept silent. Control the minds, you control their bodies. Every true playa and pimp knows this shit. How obvious is that to keep those who blinded by truth, in the dark? It's more fun.
Soi 6 girl Fai doing porn. Guess who helped set her up?
[URL]https://onlyfans.com/whatthefai69[/URL][/QUOTE]For many of those paying to watch these streams it's an inadequate substitute for visiting the bars and once it's possible to return you will find many of these steams closing down as income plummets and the girls start to earn money in the bars. Streaming worked for a few girls before covid and it will return to those levels.
I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
However, based on my experiences in past few weeks, there are actually quite a few gals that live out of that in Pattaya now. Just last night had a regular (works in Soi 6 normally) stay with me overnight, just dropped her to room couple of hours ago. She was complaining she can't sleep has her roommate works online all nights (customers in Europe), and indeed she slept like a pig all night. Kind of funny. Similar case with another (non-regular) one about 10 days ago. Some in TF are declining real dates and say sorry only cam or photos.
So there really is demand for that stuff, and some providers specializing on that market segment. However I would also expect that many will get bored of that and return to bars once they open as they can not resist the fun and friends there.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2558638]Online sex has its place no Doubt.
Just like anything most Girls won't be able to cut it, nothing EZ about making money.
I'll spend 1,000 $ in real life in Bangkok. How much have I spent online- Bumpkins (Nothing).
I think work from home is Overrated. Way overrated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2558800]I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
However, based on my experiences in past few weeks, there are actually quite a few gals that live out of that in Pattaya now. Just last night had a regular (works in Soi 6 normally) stay with me overnight, just dropped her to room couple of hours ago. She was complaining she can't sleep has her roommate works online all nights (customers in Europe), and indeed she slept like a pig all night. Kind of funny. Similar case with another (non-regular) one about 10 days ago. Some in TF are declining real dates and say sorry only cam or photos.
So there really is demand for that stuff, and some providers specializing on that market segment. However I would also expect that many will get bored of that and return to bars once they open as they can not resist the fun and friends there.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Downandup;2558787]For many of those paying to watch these streams it's an inadequate substitute for visiting the bars and once it's possible to return you will find many of these steams closing down as income plummets and the girls start to earn money in the bars. Streaming worked for a few girls before covid and it will return to those levels.[/QUOTE]And there are people who can't personally really understand our paid pussy concept, especially as free pussy is plentiful everywhere as well. If there is a better way that allows for more freedom, anybody in any walk of life will follow this lead. We are just silly to assume these girls miss and enjoy the loud same repeated music, the 10 day contracts, bossy mamasans, the cat fights or girl drama, drinking 30-50 shots a night, and fucking 2-3 random strangers a night. I know of a shit load Go Go bar girls who are not coming back. It's not that YouTube streaming or Soi 6 bars streaming that one has to worry about. It's ONLYFANS. Before COVID, few girls would put up the hassle to have to dodge the Thai laws on stuff like that. But now, they have alot of help outside the country from guys helping them set up, uploading adult content, blocking (inside) Thailand access, and transferring money back to them. Why would some of these return to the bars?
Their game is pull money and find suckers who will send them money, even for used panties. Now they have a world audience to find these guys. When you see the number of "LIKES" on a girl's ONLYFANS page, multiply that by her monthly subscription rate. That's' the minimum she gets with lots of leeway for more money when they open a video or pic. Lord forbid, they open a chat session, fall in love, and send her money on the side. This is all game, even online. Going back to the old ways after you find the fountain of youth, is like some of us getting married to somebody our own age and setting down. WTF? I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed.
Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you? Technology eventually catches up, all it takes is something big to force this change. As a change maker, COVID-19 is no joke. And before anybody says vaccines will fix everything, they better look at Thailand "immigration and tourism and open border policy" versus USA or anywhere else. Blocking India has tremendous effect and if you don't know by now, this thing we call "LIFE" is all connected. So what the price of tea in China or what they eat in a wet market, does have an effect on the rest of the world.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2558800]I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.
[/QUOTE]Maybe because it seems more personalized? You can watch Lebron James play basketball on TV for free. Would you be willing to pay to watch him play if he spoke to you before the game and before he hit a shot (pun intended), he looked in the camera and said Knobrm this one is for you!?
There is some website or app where you can pay and celebrities will send you a personalized video. Weird to me because I see celebrities all the time so I am like who cares. So the online cam pics sex thing is probably weird to you because you fuck chicks all the time.
I have said before that I was with a chick in Pattaya and she showed me her paypal where guys in Pattaya where sending her money for the online cam sex pics thing. I could not wrap my head around it since they could just come over and actually fuck her for less money.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2558476]Since all you guys have been talking about it, I decided to go on a few of the and ask if any of them wanted a date. I said I would tip them good and pay for the taxi. But, I don't think my message every got through to the girls, which of course sucks.[/QUOTE]What could work is if you already had a show girl as one of your regulars, then you'd ask her to connect you with one of the other girls. I have such a regular from one of the bars. I (over)pay her 2000 for short time (I otherwise pay 1500). So far I haven't mustered courage to ask her for connections with any of her bar roommates (there's only one of these I find attractive, could be a post-op considering her size though). To be frank I'm not hard-up for girls right now, I'm content with rotating my 4 or 5 regulars. I'm more hard-up for swimming and dining out. Life now is no different from ASQ except I have a female visitor each day. My spirits are even lower than during ASQ as I have nothing exciting any more to look forward to in TH before I fly back home to get my jabs among other things.
To add to my misery ExpressVPN has let me down for up to 3 hours in a row these last days. Unable to connect to the condo WiFi. Works fine on 4G of the same provider though. VPN support has replied but couldn't solve the problem. No VPN no PornHub.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2558800]I personally can't really understand the paid online / cam / pic sex, especially as free porn is plentiful everywhere. Would not work for me, but to each of their own.[/QUOTE]In the past I must have blown about 30k dollars on Niteflirt over the course of 10 years. I was spending much more on Niteflirt than I would calling escorts to my hotel as these were not expensive locally. Phonesex only, no cam. Had the time of my life. I was getting to all sorts of shit behind my computer screen so it was better the woman didn't even see me. All kinds of real and virtual sex have their niches.
[QUOTE=XXL;2558848]...To add to my misery ExpressVPN has let me down for up to 3 hours in a row these last days. Unable to connect to the condo WiFi. Works fine on 4G of the same provider though. VPN support has replied but couldn't solve the problem. No VPN no PornHub...[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. It sucks!
Don't Fool yourselves. The vast majority of girls are not making money live-streaming. This same majority of girls also don't make much in regular bars.
For the girl it's not the Venue that makes a difference.
It's that Attractive / desirability concept. As a rule if you are a five or less You ain't going to make money selling Sex.
Girls must make a ton of money from OnlyFans. I know a couple of strippers who have pivoted since COVID shut down the strip clubs. First they went on MFC since they saw models not as young or pretty as them earning well over 100k USD per year. Now they only go on MFC from time to time to get guys to pay for videos and photosets they sell on OnlyFans. Making a killing.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2558939]Girls must make a ton of money from OnlyFans. I know a couple of strippers who have pivoted since COVID shut down the strip clubs. First they went on MFC since they saw models not as young or pretty as them earning well over 100k USD per year. Now they only go on MFC from time to time to get guys to pay for videos and photosets they sell on OnlyFans. Making a killing.[/QUOTE]While Bella Thorne managed to make more than $1 million in revenue in only 24 hours, the majority of accounts take home less than $145 per month. The average earnings is only slightly more at $180 per month. So, sadly, most performers do not make a lot of money via OnlyFans. Apr 26,2021.
Hahaha. Hahaha. Make it Rain Thai girls.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2558830]Maybe because it seems more personalized? You can watch Lebron James play basketball on TV for free. Would you be willing to pay to watch him play if he spoke to you before the game and before he hit a shot (pun intended), he looked in the camera and said Knobrm this one is for you!?
There is some website or app where you can pay and celebrities will send you a personalized video. Weird to me because I see celebrities all the time so I am like who cares. So the online cam pics sex thing is probably weird to you because you fuck chicks all the time.
I have said before that I was with a chick in Pattaya and she showed me her paypal where guys in Pattaya where sending her money for the online cam sex pics thing. I could not wrap my head around it since they could just come over and actually fuck her for less money.[/QUOTE]Well, its more than that. It's got to be real to work for me, guess I am old school. In addition to that I am picky for both the appearance of the girl being my style, as well as the girl being (or at least acting well to be.) into it to work out for me. Anything non-real just won't cut it. Ordering from TF is hit an miss to me due to that as sometimes reality is not as pics, or the girl simply is not into it, just a dead fish wanting money. Last time about a week ago had to stop action and ask her go as just would not work as she did not like what I like and was like a dead fish.
Not into sports nor celebrities either, so would not pay for such. But I kind of understand some people pay to watch for nice looking things, I myself can pay a ticket to car / hotrod / muscle car show just to look at the 'porn' of mechanical beauty. But the experience is not sexual at all, something different. But would not pay to see a video or pic a Thai girl as can see the same for free if I like, or when they come by.
But as said, to each of their own, well understand people have VERY different habits in this area and can not criticize, just wonder. Some even fuck dogs!
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558812]And there are people who can't personally really understand our paid pussy concept, especially as free pussy is plentiful everywhere as well. If there is a better way that allows for more freedom, anybody in any walk of life will follow this lead. We are just silly to assume these girls miss and enjoy the loud same repeated music, the 10 day contracts, bossy mamasans, the cat fights or girl drama, drinking 30-50 shots a night, and fucking 2-3 random strangers a night. I know of a shit load Go Go bar girls who are not coming back. It's not that YouTube streaming or Soi 6 bars streaming that one has to worry about. It's ONLYFANS. Before COVID, few girls would put up the hassle to have to dodge the Thai laws on stuff like that. But now, they have alot of help outside the country from guys helping them set up, uploading adult content, blocking (inside) Thailand access, and transferring money back to them. Why would some of these return to the bars?
Their game is pull money and find suckers who will send them money, even for used panties. Now they have a world audience to find these guys. When you see the number of "LIKES" on a girl's ONLYFANS page, multiply that by her monthly subscription rate. That's' the minimum she gets with lots of leeway for more money when they open a video or pic. Lord forbid, they open a chat session, fall in love, and send her money on the side. This is all game, even online. Going back to the old ways after you find the fountain of youth, is like some of us getting married to somebody our own age and setting down. WTF? I see that NightWish has taken upon themselves to control more aspects of the livestreams with their own site. Management obvious want the stupid girls to stay stupid, so there is more control. Feel sorry if they ever piss off a girl or whistleblower because we are still in lockdown and no gatherings allowed.
Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you? Technology eventually catches up, all it takes is something big to force this change. As a change maker, COVID-19 is no joke. And before anybody says vaccines will fix everything, they better look at Thailand "immigration and tourism and open border policy" versus USA or anywhere else. Blocking India has tremendous effect and if you don't know by now, this thing we call "LIFE" is all connected. So what the price of tea in China or what they eat in a wet market, does have an effect on the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]As said in some other post, IF there is a market demand for paid online sex, for sure that market will get served because it can be monetized as volume business. Seems onlyfans has taken enabler role in part of that market now, and covid has given a good kick for that industry.
Even the personalized demand gets served well because there are always girls who not really into the physical game with old dirty farangs and other weirdos. Just can play the act from comfort of their room as long as someone (not me.) pays for it.
But but. Still many girls who absolutely do not want to put anything online, or even to take the risk for it (looking around the room and asking whether you have cams.). Also, many girls who actually are into the real stuff, and many (sure not all) of them quietly looking for BF (or sponsor) as a side task, so not too worried that supply would dry out during my lifetime.
About the paid pussy concept, sure not everyone understand it, and many of those who actually do, won't publicly admit it for their reasons (religion, societal norms, etc). It is just that odds of hooking a different decent looking gal about half your age for few times a week is a bit tough in most parts of the world for free and / or without strings attached. Then whether you like such activity is an other matter, but if you do, paying a bit is the least of the concerns. Anyway in most cases cheaper overall than paying for the less attractive nagging one at home.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2558812]Since I have been here 14 or so months now, there have been more people and customers coming into Thailand, but less and less Go Go Bar girls. And ONLYFANS accounts for Thailand has shot up tremendously. So what does that tell you?[/QUOTE]That there is an alternate universe out there where covid did not hit, and there have been more customers and people going to the Pattaya in that universe in these past 14 months. How do we get to that universe because it's a lot better than this one where travel has been locked down in the last 14 months for the most part.
Finding young attractive talent is tough. The beach has mostly over 30 worn / high mileage talent. Worser and cheaper than Soi 6. The last 2 years Soi 6 talent was in the dumps. No more I can't believe I found a diamond in the rough go go quality chicks. The top 10% talent on Soi 6 this Spring may have been 7's. A lot of girls went home. The only 3 Japanese guys I saw today had hot chicks on the back of their back. Maybe 7.5's. Being picky may mean a week of blue balls. The old days there was quality action as long as you had game looks or baht. Unless you know many chicks it is too much work to recruit talent with bars closed. TF girls are unreliable and the photo doesn't tell the complete story. Soi bukhao has 40/60 masculine lineup. I notice girls only ply their wares on Soi bukhao for 10 minutes and keep it pushing. Less people watching with no dine in option. Soi bukhao you have decide on the talent fast.
A 30 something year old that is okay looking and wants to please is seriously underrated on these boards. Pretty and young is nice and I get the allure. And to each their own. But I like a familiar milfy type that is sweet and GFE. Happy to stay all night and is just fun for a lot less money to boot.
[QUOTE=Cool;2559160]Finding young attractive talent is tough. The beach has mostly over 30 worn / high mileage talent. Worser and cheaper than Soi 6. The last 2 years Soi 6 talent was in the dumps. No more I can't believe I found a diamond in the rough go go quality chicks. The top 10% talent on Soi 6 this Spring may have been 7's. A lot of girls went home. The only 3 Japanese guys I saw today had hot chicks on the back of their back. Maybe 7.5's. Being picky may mean a week of blue balls. The old days there was quality action as long as you had game looks or baht. Unless you know many chicks it is too much work to recruit talent with bars closed. TF girls are unreliable and the photo doesn't tell the complete story. Soi bukhao has 40/60 masculine lineup. I notice girls only ply their wares on Soi bukhao for 10 minutes and keep it pushing. Less people watching with no dine in option. Soi bukhao you have decide on the talent fast.[/QUOTE]
Lots of gloom and doom here.
The flip side of all this Covid is the ladies who are in Pattaya are eager to please. A few drinks and they get naked as long as there is a little privacy, and the customer isn't an idiot. But, there are no lack of low income types trying to maximize one lady drink per hour. I don't see how 50 baht an hour is going to motivate a bargirl.
I don't expect the bars to re-open before July 1.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2559244]A 30 something year old that is okay looking and wants to please is seriously underrated on these boards. Pretty and young is nice and I get the allure. And to each their own. But I like a familiar milfy type that is sweet and GFE. Happy to stay all night and is just fun for a lot less money to boot.[/QUOTE]Funny you mentioned about this. I am not really into 'milfy' types (as per my perception of the meaning of the word), however over the years I have (unintentionally) shifted towards this 30's category. As you said yes young ones are pretty, and few years ago used them substantially more than lately. Have a habit of circulating regulars, and young regulars tend to either disappear or get older, and some just did not perform to become regulars due to performance or price expectation. Maybe part of the reason of the shift is getting older myself 555.
Being picky with appearance to start with and then sampling enough you can find 30+ types that are pretty good looking that perform well (as they are into it themselves), and as you said they have settled a bit and are happy to stay long without any hurry and not only money in mind, actually very much like a real GFE experience. . . Many actually would be happy to move in.
Value for money is definitely good. Guess my top pick for performance in past couple of years actually is l the 32 yr old narc that I spent time on last year for covid lockdown period, but it seems that case with her is now finally closed.
Then there is the category of the non-working ones, many 30+ 'normal' ladies looking for farang boyfriend. Have been testing this market a bit, however have to admit hit rate for performance is lower there and takes more time. Also, as they are looking for BF, they tend to get serious quickly if there is any chemistry on their side so need to be careful. But this market is not really good unless you live here as it takes time and many only available on weekends or holidays, esp those living in industrial areas around Chonburi and Rayong.
I'm concerned.
Fon is undoubtedly drinkie Superstar of Desire Bar Stream. Usually front and center.
Today they put her in the middle, hard to see her.
She is behind number 43 big titted avg looker, no where drives any sales at all.
What kind of business sense is this?
Today I asked my 2000-Baht bar girl to connect me with a girl from the same bar I pointed out to her on Youtube. A taller girl, rather slim. My 2000-Baht girl confirmed the other girl was "female" in spite of her height but in Thailand that could mean post-op.
Anyway I messaged the girl on Line and got an answer: no. An abrupt if not outrightly rude no.
So no interest in 2000 Baht for short time.
Has that girl enough online fans to keep her in funds? Or is she a post-op (post-ops are notoriously insecure once anything more than showing off is proposed). Or is it just Thailand, where rejection rates -- mine at least -- are high?
[QUOTE=Horatio;2559244]A 30 something year old that is okay looking and wants to please is seriously underrated on these boards. Pretty and young is nice and I get the allure. And to each their own. But I like a familiar milfy type that is sweet and GFE. Happy to stay all night and is just fun for a lot less money to boot.[/QUOTE]
Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it. Lack of exposure to genuinely young girls for over a decade now plus Asian's natural petiteness creates in mongers the illusion of youth where there is none.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2559282]The flip side of all this Covid is the ladies who are in Pattaya are eager to please. A few drinks and they get naked as long as there is a little privacy,[/QUOTE]Always been the case in the many G clubs and BJ bars in Pattaya. Nothing to do with COVID. No privacy needed. They will all fuck you in the middle of the bar.
Sadly used to be the case on Soi 6 too until that idiot Brit (?) and Brit paper that no one reads ruined it for all of us. The Good Old Days of Soi 6. Very sad.
[QUOTE=XXL;2559329]Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it.[/QUOTE]
Most Farang can't tell the age of Asians. Met a very pretty Sensations girl in 2016. One of the best girls I ever met in Thailand. I knew she wasn't 18 or 19. I pinned her around 24. I used to get pats on my back by random guys when I used to walk around town with her. That's how pretty she was. I was floored when she eventually told me she was 37. 37! That was 5 years ago so she would be 42 now. I still think she looks 24! Not a single wrinkle.
Lots of girls say they are 18, 19. 21. They aren't!
Thai Tramps are last to be vaccinated just after Dirt Farangs.
Hahaha.
A guy bought 50 drinks for Sai at Desire today. She was drunk her whole 12 hour shift.
[QUOTE=Cool;2559160]Finding young attractive talent is tough. The beach has mostly over 30 worn / high mileage talent. Worser and cheaper than Soi 6. The last 2 years Soi 6 talent was in the dumps. No more I can't believe I found a diamond in the rough go go quality chicks. The top 10% talent on Soi 6 this Spring may have been 7's. A lot of girls went home. The only 3 Japanese guys I saw today had hot chicks on the back of their back. Maybe 7.5's. Being picky may mean a week of blue balls. The old days there was quality action as long as you had game looks or baht. Unless you know many chicks it is too much work to recruit talent with bars closed. TF girls are unreliable and the photo doesn't tell the complete story. Soi bukhao has 40/60 masculine lineup. I notice girls only ply their wares on Soi bukhao for 10 minutes and keep it pushing. Less people watching with no dine in option. Soi bukhao you have decide on the talent fast.[/QUOTE]Could you be anymore negative? I personally have had great luck. Perhaps you only want to pay very little money. Up your budget and up the quality. I have not lowered my budget and pay 5000 LT. That gets me 3 shots BB CIP and often the girls don't want to leave the next day. I had one stay for 5 days and I paid her Ann extra 2000 Baht and she was so happy. So 5 days with a stunner 22 for 7000 Baht and fucking all. Ugh this every night.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2559327]I'm concerned.
Fon is undoubtedly drinkie Superstar of Desire Bar Stream. Usually front and center.
Today they put her in the middle, hard to see her.
She is behind number 43 big titted avg looker, no where drives any sales at all.
What kind of business sense is this?[/QUOTE]I prefer the njghtwish group streams. Milk in Toy Box is my favorite. I've been with her server all times before covid.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2559437]A guy bought 50 drinks for Sai at Desire today. She was drunk her whole 12 hour shift.[/QUOTE]From water? You don't actually think these girls drink 50 shots of alcohol, do you? They're professional actresses. No different than they act happy with an old or unattractive man.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2559535]From water? You don't actually think these girls drink 50 shots of alcohol, do you? They're professional actresses. No different than they act happy with an old or unattractive man.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]They don't act when I am there. I make sure it is SangSom on the rocks, same as I am drinking They want to put coke or soda in it and I don't let them. Usually watered down apple juice what they are drinking.
[QUOTE=XXL;2559329]
Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it. Lack of exposure to genuinely young girls for over a decade now plus Asian's natural petiteness creates in mongers the illusion of youth where there is none.[/QUOTE]In my experience the girls from the Kalasin, Nakhon, Surin provinces of Isan look young and clean and they are very submissive too. But most of them are young mothers from their boyfriend. In early 2000 when they come to room they remove the foot wears before entering the room. Then they clean the whole room. But these days things are changed a lot. They have more expectations from the 'customeres'.
[QUOTE=XXL;2559329]Most girls we assume are "young" are very close to thirty and often on the wrong side of it. Lack of exposure to genuinely young girls for over a decade now plus Asian's natural petiteness creates in mongers the illusion of youth where there is none.[/QUOTE]It sometimes works the opposite, as it did for me in Samui 15 months ago. I bar fined a pretty girl with strong athletic body. Her appearance made me think she was mid 30's. During about our 3rd session, she showed me her ID and it showed she was only 22 (or 23, I forget). On another night I bar finned a spinner from a nearby bar who I assumed was late 20's, that time my resort checked her ID and I asked the guard to confirm "female" and he said "yes, born 1999". So, 20 or 21 years old. The thing both these girls had in common was that they both were mothers.
In time, these girls both demonstrated their age by personalities. To me their appearance seemed older than reality.
On the subject of age, my best professional sex experience of that trip was with a pretty 44 year old bar girl. Over the prior week I bought her one or two drinks on about 3 separate occasions with zero overtures to sex. On about the fourth night I just walked up to her at the bar and invited her to my hotel, paid a small bar fine, and left for a really great session. She acted as if I were her long lost boyfriend who she loved. Memorable session.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559547]They don't act when I am there. I make sure it is SangSom on the rocks, same as I am drinking They want to put coke or soda in it and I don't let them. Usually watered down apple juice what they are drinking.[/QUOTE]Of course not. Same here. However, I am talking about naive guys who are buying drinks over the internet or tourists who don't know any better. Yes, apple juice! I used to buy one super cute LK Metro gogo girl apple juice lady drinks and didn't care. Her tongue was down my throat too much for her to even have time to sip her drink.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2559595]Of course not. Same here. However, I am talking about naive guys who are buying drinks over the internet or tourists who don't know any better. Yes, apple juice! [/QUOTE]I never knew until a few years ago when a bunch of us from Pattaya took a trip to Cambodia. I had never been one to buy lady drinks so I could care less what they were drinking. But we were sitting in a bar and my buddy bought a chick a drink. When she got it he tasted it and was like Hello, no. I am not paying for this shit. He made them give her the real alcohol that he thought he was paying for.
So since then, the rare times that I do buy a drink for a chick, I first ask her what she wants, then I make sure it is that, but straight up or on the rocks. I may let her add soda or something later after I know it is really whiskey in the glass.
Poll time.
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.
Isn't it their businesses after all?
Same like the girls tended to loose the watch and ask you to buy them a new on. After the guys went home she goes to the shop and gets some cash back.
Business plan that is.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2559660]Poll time.
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]When the ladies want to get "drunk", they will buy a bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That bottle will last all night, because they put in half a shot, and fill the glass with ice and soda water.
Same in the bar, half a shot with lots of soda is the norm.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2559660]How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Have you really been to Thailand bars? Why is it important? It's so the girls don't look at you like a chump! Once they know they can pull the drink scam on you then they will conclude you're a loser in life and will be an easy John who is new to the game and will suck dry for all you have. See Tinte's post today.
However, for me personally it's more so the bar is spending money on real alcohol. I'm already not pleased paying over 200 baht for a single lady drink I want to make sure the bar makes as little as possible.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2559712]When the ladies want to get "drunk", they will buy a bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That bottle will last all night, because they put in half a shot, and fill the glass with ice and soda water.
Same in the bar, half a shot with lots of soda is the norm.[/QUOTE]A French girl who used to work in so-called "champagne bars" in France told me about a trick girls played not to get drunk (apart from being served from a different bottle than the customer's). They had a small stick like a cocktail stick. They would look the customer straight in the eyes and all the while they would churn the champagne with the stick to bring it to overflow. Girls who got offered cocaine but didn't like cocaine also had a trick of snorting it but not too deep, then blowing it out of their nostrils at the first opportunity (like Bill Clinton who didn't inhale, but this time for real).
At Nana in the bars they did come to me naked (in the old days) and asked for a lady drink. No drinks payed, most of them left. Drinks offerd, they stayed you could play with the pussy and she plays with your dick perhaps gave a BBBJ.
Drinks were less than a beer and I did not care what colored stuff they drunk. Cheap fun.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2559348]
Most Farang can't tell the age of Asians. Met a very pretty Sensations girl in 2016. One of the best girls I ever met in Thailand. I knew she wasn't 18 or 19. I pinned her around 24. I used to get pats on my back by random guys when I used to walk around town with her. That's how pretty she was. I was floored when she eventually told me she was 37. 37! That was 5 years ago so she would be 42 now. I still think she looks 24! Not a single wrinkle.
Lots of girls say they are 18, 19. 21. They aren't![/QUOTE]
Probably true that many who only come here for holiday every now and then, may have difficulty assessing the age due to being distracted by the different 'exotic' appearance of Asians, as well as smaller body frame size. Same as farang who are not familiar with Asians, can not tell which one s Japanese, Filipina, Indo, North Chinese, South Chinese or Thai if a typical one of each is put to a row, they all look the same. But for someone like me with over two decades accross Asia they all look distinct.
This is obviously used by girls to their favor lying their age for the uninformed in trying to up their biz. With the help of thick makeup as an amplifier.
However, for vast majority of girls it is not that difficult to estimate the age bracket of say 5-6 years by looking at the skin around their eyes (after washing their face if too much makeup). Their skin get older just like for caucasians, as simple as that. Yes there are the exceptions who age slower (or faster) than a typical one, but same is true for caucasians also, and sometimes you can have a 35+ yr girl who looks like under 25 (esp if no kids, no smoke, no drink). But this is pretty rare.
Putting aside the smoke and mirrors of different appearance of asians and smaller body frame, I think their aging up to around 30-35 is about same as caucasians. However when the age train continues to move to 35+ and further, in my eyes their skin ageing speeds up compared to caucasians so that Thai women in general look older in their face at 40+ than caucasians.
This may not matter too much for mongers as this bracket is largely filtered out anyway from target group, but is a consideration for middle-aged guys who are considering settling with one in the house. Better choose one who is not much over 30 even if you are older yourself, otherwise you may have a grandma looking girl next to while you still have working system for action.
[QUOTE=Tinte;2559751]At Nana in the bars they did come to me naked (in the old days) and asked for a lady drink. No drinks payed, most of them left. Drinks offerd, they stayed you could play with the pussy and she plays with your dick perhaps gave a BBBJ.
Drinks were less than a beer and I did not care what colored stuff they drunk. Cheap fun.[/QUOTE]Not an insignificant detail.
Drunk girls are useless to a Bar.
There was a post from somebody how to find out a Thai girl age by looking at her I.D. if it is important to you.
Not counting P4 P girls usually young normal girls are more juicy and love frequent sex. Many post pictures when they were young and list young age to get people interested. It is a age old trick. Once you probe into you can usually get the real age. Sometimes if you show no interest they might introduce their young relatives or friends.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2559815]There was a post from somebody how to find out a Thai girl age by looking at her I.D. if it is important to you.[/QUOTE]LOL. I guess it is the same as the ladyboy dilema. If you really want to know just ask or look at the ID instead of trying to invent all kinds of round about ways of figuring it out.
How old are you? 22.
Monger way: Hmm. She has to be lying. Check the eyes. Check the hands. 22 times 8 divided by 6 minus 12. Must really be 26.
Normal way: I don't believe you. Let me see your ID.
Strange world when a guy has the bravery to ask a chick if he can cum in her mouth, but is terrified of asking to see an ID.
It kind of surprises me that you ask before cumming in mouth. I always assume it's ok and go with that.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2559851]LOL. I guess it is the same as the ladyboy dilema. If you really want to know just ask or look at the ID instead of trying to invent all kinds of round about ways of figuring it out.
How old are you? 22.
Monger way: Hmm. She has to be lying. Check the eyes. Check the hands. 22 times 8 divided by 6 minus 12. Must really be 26.
Normal way: I don't believe you. Let me see your ID.
Strange world when a guy has the bravery to ask a chick if he can cum in her mouth, but is terrified of asking to see an ID.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horatio;2559863]It kind of surprises me that you ask before cumming in mouth. I always assume it's ok and go with that.[/QUOTE]I am not saying that I ask. I was just making an example of guys that want a particular thing have no problem asking for that service, but are hesitant to ask to see ID.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2559815]There was a post from somebody how to find out a Thai girl age by looking at her I.D. if it is important to you.[/QUOTE]Anyone deciding to go this route should be aware that internally in Thailand they use the Buddhist calendar, and the current Thai year is 2564.
SL.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2559921]Anyone deciding to go this route should be aware that internally in Thailand they use the Buddhist calendar, and the current Thai year is 2564.
SL.[/QUOTE]The Thai ID cards also have the "farang" date of birth. The other key thing is that "Miss" or "Mrs. " will printed for females. I've been told that "Mr. " will be printed for ladyboys. All that information is written in English.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2559712]When the ladies want to get "drunk", they will buy a bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That bottle will last all night, because they put in half a shot, and fill the glass with ice and soda water.
Same in the bar, half a shot with lots of soda is the norm.[/QUOTE]Which is what happened last night. Some bargirls were looking for a place to hang out, so they came over to my place, bringing their party stuff with them. Lots of street food, a small bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That small bottle lasted 3 hours.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2559925]The Thai ID cards also have the "farang" date of birth. The other key thing is that "Miss" or "Mrs. " will printed for females. I've been told that "Mr. " will be printed for ladyboys. All that information is written in English.[/QUOTE]I once had a bargirl playing the "I love you" routine with me. Unfortunately for her, she had to produce her Thai ID to get into my hotel, and it had her under her married name. Which I used to look up her Facebook account to see her husband.
After a while, I let her know I knew she was married. She quit her bar, and went home to her husband.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2559660]Poll time.
How many of you who buy girlie drinks are concerned what's in it. LOL.
I could care less. The point of buy drinkie is not to show who is boss. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Some of the girls know the most health damaging aspect if their job, by far, is being expected to drink alcohol to the point of getting drunk every night.
I know a bargirl who asks the bartender to pour the booze lightly on the top of the soda or water in the LD glass, don't mix it. Then she tells her customer she is going to the toilet but just before she goes she takes a big swig of the drink, trying to suck up most of the booze on top, holds it in her mouth until she get to the toilet and then spits it out in the sink.
She can get through a lot of LDs that way without getting so drunk every night her liver is shot by age 40 and she won't find herself "going with the flow" in the room to doing things she would never do to risk unwanted pregnancy and her health otherwise.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2559776]Drunk girls are useless to a Bar.[/QUOTE]No they're not. They pulled in many lady drinks if they're drunk.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2559965]Unfortunately for her, she had to produce her Thai ID to get into my hotel, and it had her under her married name. Which I used to look up her Facebook account to see her husband.[/QUOTE]I don't know any Thai girls that use an English real name on Facebook. If they use a real name it would be in Thai. If they use a fake name it's in English for Farang and that account would not have their boyfriend / husband photos.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2559925]I've been told that "Mr. " will be printed for ladyboys. [/QUOTE]
I believe the rule internationally is that a transgender can be Ms or Mr. That would mean a Thai post op can be listed as Ms.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2559964]Which is what happened last night. Some bargirls were looking for a place to hang out, so they came over to my place, bringing their party stuff with them. Lots of street food, a small bottle of Sangsom, ice and soda water. That small bottle lasted 3 hours.[/QUOTE]When did you arrive back in Thailand?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2560026]
When did you arrive back in Thailand?[/QUOTE]I returned to Pattaya about 3 weeks ago. It's like the Zombie Apocalypse here, but some people might like it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2560012]No they're not. They pulled in many lady drinks if they're drunk.
Bit Siri.
I don't know any Thai girls that use an English real name on Facebook. If they use a real name it would be in Thai. If they use a fake name it's in English for Farang and that account would not have their boyfriend / husband photos.[/QUOTE]Concerning the married lady, her Thai ID had "Mrs" before name in English. I had her Facebook account with her English account from that, but she had a Thai name account linked to it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2560026]I believe the rule internationally is that a transgender can be Ms or Mr. That would mean a Thai post op can be listed Ms.[/QUOTE]I don't believe this is true in Thailand the ID must reflect the born as sex.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2560059]I had her Facebook account with her English account from that, but she had a Thai name account linked to it.[/QUOTE]Correct. If you pull that thread by looking at their friends of friends you will find some of these Thai girls have 5 or more Facebook profiles.
When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. If it contains alcohol it will be a shot of cheap Thai whiskey which costs the bar 10 to 15 baht. If the girl doesn't want to drink this rot gut so what. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
Overzealous bar girls, more likely mamasans continuously hustling drinks.
The two drinks scam, a shot of liquor with a mixer counted as two drinks.
The girl is off hustling elsewhere as soon as you buy her a drink.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560132]When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
The girl is off hustling elsewhere as soon as you buy her a drink.[/QUOTE]I have said before that if you insist on buying drinks do it as a reward and not a preward. Do all your feeling up shit first and buy the drink after she has earned it.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560132]When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. If it contains alcohol it will be a shot of cheap Thai whiskey which costs the bar 10 to 15 baht. If the girl doesn't want to drink this rot gut so what. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
Overzealous bar girls, more likely mamasans continuously hustling drinks.
The two drinks scam, a shot of liquor with a mixer counted as two drinks.
The girl is off hustling elsewhere as soon as you buy her a drink.[/QUOTE]This is as accurate a description concerning the world of lady Drinks as you going to get.
Cover two silly points made earlier.
1. Who cares what they drink.
2. You not really sticking it to the Man requiring alcohol be in the Glass. If you hate Thais don't patronize.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2560177]I have said before that if you insist on buying drinks do it as a reward and not a preward. Do all your feeling up shit first and buy the drink after she has earned it.[/QUOTE]These claims need to be backed up with photos. You not going to get away with this doing it to Hot girls.
500 batters, I guess.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560132]The two drinks scam, a shot of liquor with a mixer counted as two drinks.[/QUOTE]I've never had a 2 drink scam in Pattaya. Has anyone and, if so, which bar?
On the contrary, had this pulled on me at Crazy House in Bangkok my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd time I bought a lady drink. See the trend!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2560177]I have said before that if you insist on buying drinks do it as a reward and not a preward. Do all your feeling up shit first and buy the drink after she has earned it.[/QUOTE]
I never understood guys who buy drinks and just sit there with a girl. I need lots of groping and preferably DFK to justify myself spending 200 baht on a lady drink. Yes I am a proud Cheap Cha-lee.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2560056]I returned to Pattaya about 3 weeks ago. It's like the Zombie Apocalypse here[/QUOTE]
Surprised you returned. Why not go to other countries that aren't at the early stages of a pandemic breakout? Thailand is up to nearly 10k cases per day with hardly any vaccines available. It's going to get way worse before it gets better.
Everyone I know who suffered through quarantine at an ASQ hotel still said screw it and left Thailand early! Only Monkeypaw is a gluten for punishment and has stayed in Thailand. I know guys who own condos in Pattaya and have left them empty to go to Medellin and other more active cities. Unless there is a very special girl of your dreams in Thailand there is zero reason to be there right now. Received some photos of Beach Road the other day. All stores boarded up. Really sad to see. Your description is perfect. It's like a Zombie Apocalypse there now minus the zombies.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560132]When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. If it contains alcohol it will be a shot of cheap Thai whiskey which costs the bar 10 to 15 baht. If the girl doesn't want to drink this rot gut so what. That said I do have some issues with lady drinks.
Overzealous bar girls, more likely mamasans continuously hustling drinks...[/QUOTE]Well said, and an accurate assessment. As for the drinks, my understanding is that the mamasans are requested by the club owners, to sell so many drinks per month. The mamasans in turn push the girls to sell drinks. It has gotten so bad in this area that I stopped visiting GoGo bars many years ago. I may go now only if I am with a wingman and he wants to visit them.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2560346]The mamasans in turn push the girls to sell drinks. It has gotten so bad in this area that I stopped visiting GoGo bars many years ago. I may go now if I am with a wingman and he wants to visit them.[/QUOTE]Which gogo bars in Pattaya did this? I never get hard sells from gogo girls or mamasans to push an extraordinary amount of drinks. Windmill back in the day may have been the exception.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2560220]
Surprised you returned. Why not go to other countries that aren't at the early stages of a pandemic breakout? Thailand is up to nearly 10k cases per day with hardly any vaccines available. It's going to get way worse before it gets better.
Everyone I know who suffered through quarantine at an ASQ hotel still said screw it and left Thailand early! Only Monkeypaw is a gluten for punishment and has stayed in Thailand. I know guys who own condos in Pattaya and have left them empty to go to Medellin and other more active cities. Unless there is a very special girl of your dreams in Thailand there is zero reason to be there right now. Received some photos of Beach Road the other day. All stores boarded up. Really sad to see. Your description is perfect. It's like a Zombie Apocalypse there now minus the zombies.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Why did I come back to Pattaya? Well. I live here, for a starter. I know enough ladies that the closed bars are not a problem. Plus, the bars won't be closed forever.
I have to leave here in July, and will have 2 weeks free. That means I can go anywhere in the world, except for Covid restrictions. I have no idea where that will be. I am vaccinated, so Brazil might be an option.
Anyone got any irl experience with Benz, #10 in Desire Bar Soi 6 livestream? Started watching the other day and now obsessed. Young, cute, petite, perfect body without an ounce of flab, fantastic little mover, and bubbly. Hope she's still there whenever the hell I get back!
What is about living in Pattaya. Women are considered as WGs, gamers. Scammers living high off the hog with multiple sponsors. Stealing food scamming restaurants is perfectly ok. Thinking buying a lady drink entitles you to stick your tongue down her throat or worse feeling its ok to grope her first and then decide whether her response entitles her to a drink or not. Where being a mean stingy cheap Charlie is considered a virtue, a badge of honor to be proud of. Where a cohort of self-righteous like minded members band together to attack anybody who criticizes their behavior. What is about living in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560457]What is about living in Pattaya. Women are considered as WGs, gamers. Scammers living high off the hog with multiple sponsors. Stealing food scamming restaurants is perfectly ok. Thinking buying a lady drink entitles you to stick your tongue down her throat or worse feeling its ok to grope her first and then decide whether her response entitles her to a drink or not. Where being a mean stingy cheap Charlie is considered a virtue, a badge of honor to be proud of. Where a cohort of self-righteous like minded members band together to attack anybody who criticizes their behavior. What is about living in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I don't get it either.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2560440]Anyone got any irl experience with Benz, #10 in Desire Bar Soi 6 livestream? Started watching the other day and now obsessed. Young, cute, petite, perfect body without an ounce of flab, fantastic little mover, and bubbly. Hope she's still there whenever the hell I get back![/QUOTE]Problem is her Face. Let's just say nit her strongest quality.
She does have her Fair share of admirers.
[QUOTE=ChrisP;2560440]Anyone got any irl experience with Benz, #10 in Desire Bar Soi 6 livestream? Started watching the other day and now obsessed. Young, cute, petite, perfect body without an ounce of flab, fantastic little mover, and bubbly. Hope she's still there whenever the hell I get back![/QUOTE]Checked out their YT video ([URL]www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE8wuUpkDwU[/URL]) based on what you posted. Sai (#11) seems best IMO. She has the best movements, smiles more, and, to me, is also the prettiest of the bunch.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560457]What is about living in Pattaya. Women are considered as WGs, gamers. Scammers living high off the hog with multiple sponsors. Stealing food scamming restaurants is perfectly ok. Thinking buying a lady drink entitles you to stick your tongue down her throat or worse feeling its ok to grope her first and then decide whether her response entitles her to a drink or not. Where being a mean stingy cheap Charlie is considered a virtue, a badge of honor to be proud of. Where a cohort of self-righteous like minded members band together to attack anybody who criticizes their behavior. What is about living in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Bang On! Lots of bad a55es in Pattaya.
Bit Siri (?)
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560132]When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or ....[/QUOTE]That's how I feel about lady drinks, but I do like to have some physical contact to assess her body tone and her receptiveness to physical contact. I see it as a preview of what I may experience in the hotel room.
Unlike USA and Mexico, the Thailand go-go bars often allow enough pre-drink time that I can assess if I want her before anybody asks me to buy her a drink. Occasionally I go straight to the bar fine without a drink. I don't like the loud music in the bars so I tend to pick my partner and leave quickly. Often I tell the girl I'm not interested so she can move on and so can I.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2560529]Checked out their YT video ([URL]www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE8wuUpkDwU[/URL]) based on what you posted. Sai (#11) seems best IMO. She has the best movements, smiles more, and, to me, is also the prettiest of the bunch.[/QUOTE]Come on man SAI number is 111.
She is quite Spunky too. Today she told a poster to Bleep off. He said something as a Joke that she didn't take kindly.
She is a Pro and makes that stream go.
MrKorean. What's your opinion about buying drinks. User friendly or unfriendly?
Sai sometimes wears a Big Bra. Only if she could wear a littler one. OMG!
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560457]Thinking buying a lady drink entitles you to stick your tongue down her throat or worse feeling its ok to grope her first and then decide whether her response entitles her to a drink or not.[/QUOTE]You do understand that these are hookers and that is what they are there for right? Same way she wants to be sure you have money to give her, you want to be sure she has what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2560552]You do understand that these are hookers and that is what they are there for right? Same way she wants to be sure you have money to give her, you want to be sure she has what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]No we do not understand. LOL.
[QUOTE=XXL;2549636]
I visited a Real Doll (sexbot) brothel in Dormund (Germany) twice. The technology is not rife regarding adopting positions, but once it is, no more bio-women for me for sure.[/QUOTE]Well, did you?
I think it's both. A person shouldn't just walk up to a bar girl and put his hand down her panties. But grabbing a bit of ass and going from there is ok depending on the reaction. If they don't like that they are in the wrong profession. But if you grab their ass and they obviously don't like it, move on to someone else. I'm sure some bar girls find some guys creepy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2560552]You do understand that these are hookers and that is what they are there for right? Same way she wants to be sure you have money to give her, you want to be sure she has what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horatio;2560607]I think it's both. A person shouldn't just walk up to a bar girl and put his hand down her panties. But grabbing a bit of ass and going from there is ok depending on the reaction. If they don't like that they are in the wrong profession. But if you grab their ass and they obviously don't like it, move on to someone else. I'm sure some bar girls find some guys creepy.[/QUOTE]Oh my God my hottest Thai find! It was in Phuket, and I always refer to her as a Thai Jennifer Anniston. I would walk into the club and have a seat, and she would come right over. I remember one time she straddled my lap facing me, took my baseball cap off of my head and put it on hers backwards, took my hands and put them inside of her panties so I could feel of that ass, and then started DFKing me like we were long lost lovers re-united LOL! She got drinks and was bar-fined (again)!
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560132]When you buy a girl in a bar a drink you are paying for her time not necessarily her drinking alcohol. During this interlude you chill chat and decide whether you want to take her home or if you're a groper get your rocks off feeling her up. What's in the drink is completely irrelevant. Think about it. The drink sets you back 150 to 200 baht. [/QUOTE]I agree with you in the point of saving some money (Not cheap Charley. He he). Usually I spent some time in bars to watch what is happening over there and the attitude of girls. I buy a bottle water or rarely San miguel, as these times I drink only after my action, my first priority. Then I sit with the girl for another 15 to 30 minutes to judge her and her attitude. So definitely I buy a drink for her. Any way she is getting some money out of it. After that I decide whether to take her or not.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2560534]Bang On! Lots of bad a55es in Pattaya.
Bit Siri (?)[/QUOTE]He he b. B. Q. E. d.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560457]What is about living in Pattaya. Women are considered as WGs, gamers. Scammers living high off the hog with multiple sponsors. Stealing food scamming restaurants is perfectly ok. Thinking buying a lady drink entitles you to stick your tongue down her throat or worse feeling its ok to grope her first and then decide whether her response entitles her to a drink or not. Where being a mean stingy cheap Charlie is considered a virtue, a badge of honor to be proud of. Where a cohort of self-righteous like minded members band together to attack anybody who criticizes their behavior. What is about living in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I was having a drink last week, and a customer near me was buying ladydrinks for a bargirl. She was obviously uncomfortable, sitting quietly while he was talking to other Farangs, not reacting well when he tried to kiss her, just not a happy camper.
So, last night, I tried a different approach. First off, when buying her a drink, I didn't talk to other Farangs, I only talked to her. And I bought her more drinks. After about an hour, she took off her clothes and was dancing around me. More fun.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2560692]I was having a drink last week, and a customer near me was buying ladydrinks for a bargirl. ...[/QUOTE] No you weren't.
Anyone actually here right now knows bars have been hermetically closed to customers for weeks.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560547]Come on man SAI number is 111.
She is quite Spunky too. Today she told a poster to Bleep off. He said something as a Joke that she didn't take kindly.
She is a Pro and makes that stream go.
MrKorean. What's your opinion about buying drinks. User friendly or unfriendly?
Sai sometimes wears a Big Bra. Only if she could wear a littler one. OMG![/QUOTE]Someone should tell their management to make them turn around and show their asses. We can barely see what they look like from behind.
[QUOTE=XXL;2560701]No you weren't.
Anyone actually here right now knows bars have been hermetically closed to customers for weeks.[/QUOTE]You'll have to trust me on this one. Note that I didn’t say I was in a bar.
I would be there tonight, but I had work. But I will be there tomorrow. On Friday, all closed, so I cut a deal with the ladies to come to my place.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2560552]You do understand that these are hookers and that is what they are there for right? Same way she wants to be sure you have money to give her, you want to be sure she has what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure Mr. E. how she is sure you have money but I doubt it involves a body search but I get your check it out first approach. Buying a girl a drink as soon as she plonks her ass down is silly. But after a short chat I feel one generally knows where it's going and if she's happy engaging in a getting to know you touching and kissing hey go for it but now buy her a drink. That said as I imagine you well know nothing that happens in the bar is any guarantee her routine back in the room will live up to expectations.
Mods stream is way better than Desire. Really only good thing about Desire is Sai.
Mods stream is entirely af-lib. The girls just in a bedroom doing what they do.
As long as Bimint and a buddy is in there it is actually Fun to watch.
Bimint. Nice. Tuk. Tom. Very EZ on the eyes and quite lively.
Come on come on Guys support the Girls, Sai says this a lot.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2560780]I'm not sure Mr. E. how she is sure you have money but I doubt it involves a body search but I get your check it out first approach. Buying a girl a drink as soon as she plonks her ass down is silly. But after a short chat I feel one generally knows where it's going and if she's happy engaging in a getting to know you touching and kissing hey go for it but now buy her a drink. That said as I imagine you well know nothing that happens in the bar is any guarantee her routine back in the room will live up to expectations.[/QUOTE]I really doubt he is Barfining. He waits till they off the clock and pays 25% of what we pay.
I'm not on Board that buying Drinks for the Lady gauges Sexual Chemistry much. Still a roll of the Dice.
One clue that a girl likes you. If she lets you munch her nipples. That's reserved for Good Man. LOL. LOL. LOL.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560547]Come on man SAI number is 111.
MrKorean. What's your opinion about buying drinks. User friendly or unfriendly?[/QUOTE]If you look at the link I posted, she's 11. Looks like in more recent streams, she changed to 111. I only watched like 5 minutes of it. It's not that. Enticing. The whole point of going to Pattaya and enjoying these go-go bars is for the prospect of barfining. Also, I will never buy lady drinks online.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560555]No we do not understand. LOL.[/QUOTE]You don't understand that groping is standard and expected in go-go bars? Have you guys been to go-go bars? It's shocking people who have been to go-go bars can say that. I'm all for respecting women. But these ladies are working in a go-go bar. They know these are normal behaviors. Yes, the expectation is that you get lap dances with very little limitations on groping and kissing when you buy them lady drinks. And also yes, you want to get a feel for their receptiveness before you buy them lady drinks so you don't waste $8-$10 per drink. What you're looking for is for them to be as engaging and groping / kissing you back. If they're not very receptive, you move on to another girl who is.
We have another data point. Number 10 Benz from Desire livestream.
One guy think she is God's gift to Mongers. LOL.
What's your take?
Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
I think its okay to hug a girl in the bar put your arm around her waist and make a conversation. Putting one's hand inside her dress (ass or boobs) is a strict no no for me (Now), even if they are working. Looks like a desperate cheap charlie and it brings level of upcoming service down. That being said I have fingered girls so many times and most of them liked it. No girl wants to go with a loser and there is nothing wrong in letting a girl know what you want and how you want. There is a thin line on this one.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2560607]I think it's both. A person shouldn't just walk up to a bar girl and put his hand down her panties. But grabbing a bit of ass and going from there is ok depending on the reaction. If they don't like that they are in the wrong profession. But if you grab their ass and they obviously don't like it, move on to someone else. I'm sure some bar girls find some guys creepy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560526]Problem is her Face. Let's just say nit her strongest quality.
She does have her Fair share of admirers.[/QUOTE]Damn, you have high standards! I think she's cute. As an extensive connoisseur I can tell you she has an A+ body and movement. She's young and bouncy and has that giggly high school-type personality that could be a lot of fun (if she likes you).
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2560840]You don't understand that groping is standard and expected in go-go bars? Have you guys been to go-go bars? It's shocking people who have been to go-go bars can say that. I'm all for respecting women. But these ladies are working in a go-go bar. They know these are normal behaviors. Yes, the expectation is that you get lap dances with very little limitations on groping and kissing when you buy them lady drinks. And also yes, you want to get a feel for their receptiveness before you buy them lady drinks so you don't waste $8-$10 per drink. What you're looking for is for them to be as engaging and groping / kissing you back. If they're not very receptive, you move on to another girl who is.[/QUOTE]This.
One of the nice things about going to bars in Thailand is we don't have to worry about all the metoo woke feminist horseshit where some girls can ruin your life if you look at her the wrong way. And here's the unpalatable secret: a lot of girls like Alphas who DGAF and just take what they want. Have fun, make your physical intentions clear, and if the chemistry clearly is not there (which you can tell inside a minute) cut her loose without a drink and find another. Sooner or later you'll find one you like and likes you (or is a good enough actress to make you think she does). Sometimes you can get them competing with each other for your affections, which is great fun.
I dodged a bullet tonight. I was out drinking with a lady, and as we were returning to my place, she had a ladyboy with her. We were almost out the door when a police patrol appeared, and everyone fled in different directions.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2561044]I dodged a bullet tonight. I was out drinking with a lady, and as we were returning to my place, she had a ladyboy with her. We were almost out the door when a police patrol appeared, and everyone fled in different directions.[/QUOTE]This is not coherent. What is the bullet that you dodged? The lady, the ladyboy, or the police?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561049]This is not coherent. What is the bullet that you dodged? The lady, the ladyboy, or the police?[/QUOTE]Looks like he had a sandwich going for him!
I don't understand how anyone could watch the Desire livestream or any of the other Livestreams for that matter. I'd only watch if I met in person one of the girls on camera. Thanks for actually posting an url, SK. Unlike another poster here who likes to write in code and is too lazy to post an actual url. None of those girls are worth 1000 FS. However, out of the group 11 is the best by far.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2560692]I was having a drink last week, and a customer near me was buying ladydrinks for a bargirl. She was obviously uncomfortable, sitting quietly while he was talking to other Farangs, not reacting well when he tried to kiss her, just not a happy camper.
So, last night, I tried a different approach. First off, when buying her a drink, I didn't talk to other Farangs, I only talked to her. And I bought her more drinks. After about an hour, she took off her clothes and was dancing around me. More fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2560701]No you weren't.
Anyone actually here right now knows bars have been hermetically closed to customers for weeks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2560753]You'll have to trust me on this one. Note that I didnt say I was in a bar.[/QUOTE]You must know Pattaya better than I do then because if it's not a bar I have no idea where you were at. BTW a "G club" by your definition is a bar. Where else can you buy lady drinks for a bargirl, there were other Farangs around pawing the girl, and the girl takes off her clothes? A Soi 25 massage joint behind closed doors?
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2560924]We have another data point. Number 10 Benz from Desire livestream.
One guy think she is God's gift to Mongers. LOL.
What's your take?
Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Personally I think 3 of them are hot; 10, 111 and Unus.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561049]This is not coherent. What is the bullet that you dodged? The lady, the ladyboy, or the police?[/QUOTE]Having a GG bring a ladyboy back to my place.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2561070]Looks like he had a sandwich going for him![/QUOTE]I didn't make the arrangement for the ladyboy to come to my place. But, I should be specific that when bargirls come to my place for free, there is just drinking, nothing more. So, maybe the ladyboy was just coming over to drink.
Tonight, I invited ladies over for tequila shots. That should be fun.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2561118]You must know Pattaya better than I do then because if it's not a bar I have no idea where you were at. BTW a "G club" by your definition is a bar. Where else can you buy lady drinks for a bargirl, there were other Farangs around pawing the girl, and the girl takes off her clothes? A Soi 25 massage joint behind closed doors?[/QUOTE]Sorry not to be specific.
I was with a group of ladies last night, and one mentioned that she had a Farang sponsor for a year. I asked her what country her sponsor was from, and she had no idea. Basically, all she knew was that he was male and sent money.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2560969]There are a few guys who have questioned whether Dannyboy has ever been to Pattaya or even Thailand. I'm starting to feel this way as well, with his fixation and obsession with YouTube vids and livestreams of very average looking women, something a Pattaya regular wouldn't even look twice at.[/QUOTE]I think some of you guys have forgotten what a decent looking Pattaya bar girl looked like, pre-COVID. I know it's been a while. Here's a little reminder. These are not my photos since my laptop is in Pattaya but are from one of my Thai bars around Spring, 2020.
Yes they do livestreaming as well but of course they're not currently open. They also make sure no customers are EVER on cam.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2561265]I was with a group of ladies last night, and one mentioned that she had a Farang sponsor for a year. I asked her what country her sponsor was from, and she had no idea. Basically, all she knew was that he was male and sent money.[/QUOTE]I never cease to be amazed at how bad Thai girls are at geography. Most are completely clueless.
Banana Boi thanks for posting the pics. I needed the reminder of how good Thailand can be.
Because the bars are closed, I have to improvise, so I invited some ladies to my place. They brought a freezer chest filled with beer and food, and I bought a bottle of Sangsom. The deal was that I paid them 50 baht to drink a shot of tequila (after the beer and Sangsom were finished). But, they had to remove clothing for every shot. The tequila was the real stuff from Mexico, not the ethyl alcohol sold in bars. They like Baht and they like the tequila, so it was a good deal for them.
Pretty soon, I had a bunch of naked ladies cavorting around my condo.
Good thing I have soundproof doors and no neighbors.
Nice but I'll take only 2 or 3 at max of these.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2561268]I think some of you guys have forgotten what a decent looking Pattaya bar girl looked like, pre-COVID. I know it's been a while. Here's a little reminder. These are not my photos since my laptop is in Pattaya but are from one of my Thai bars around Spring, 2020.
Yes they do livestreaming as well but of course they're not currently open. They also make sure no customers are EVER on cam.[/QUOTE]
Nice but I'll take only 2-3 of these, does anyone have more pictures of ladies from the good old days, gosh I miss them so much.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2561268]I think some of you guys have forgotten what a decent looking Pattaya bar girl looked like, pre-COVID. I know it's been a while. Here's a little reminder. These are not my photos since my laptop is in Pattaya but are from one of my Thai bars around Spring, 2020.
Yes they do livestreaming as well but of course they're not currently open. They also make sure no customers are EVER on cam.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2561429]Because the bars are closed, I have to improvise, so I invited some ladies to my place. They brought a freezer chest filled with beer and food, and I bought a bottle of Sangsom. The deal was that I paid them 50 baht to drink a shot of tequila (after the beer and Sangsom were finished). But, they had to remove clothing for every shot. The tequila was the real stuff from Mexico, not the ethyl alcohol sold in bars. They like Baht and they like the tequila, so it was a good deal for them.
Pretty soon, I had a bunch of naked ladies cavorting around my condo.
Good thing I have soundproof doors and no neighbors.[/QUOTE]Don't let on-the-ground members here go on doubting you are in Thailand. Save yourself long stories and PM me so that we can have a drink. My mailbox is not full.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2561429]Because the bars are closed, I have to improvise, so I invited some ladies to my place. They brought a freezer chest filled with beer and food, and I bought a bottle of Sangsom. The deal was that I paid them 50 baht to drink a shot of tequila (after the beer and Sangsom were finished). But, they had to remove clothing for every shot. The tequila was the real stuff from Mexico, not the ethyl alcohol sold in bars. They like Baht and they like the tequila, so it was a good deal for them.
Pretty soon, I had a bunch of naked ladies cavorting around my condo.
Good thing I have soundproof doors and no neighbors.[/QUOTE]Maybe just a funny coincidence: a gal I know was supposed to come to my place the same night but cancelled without explanation, just said can not today sorry.
The next day she sent a message with attached photo, telling she went drinking with friends and got drunk and could not come. Of course I knew there was more to the story if it was true in the first place.
Met her today, and she was talking a bit about the party she went, telling bit by bit, kind of peeling the story like an onion but not really telling much detail nor full story. But your post came to my mind as it kind of sounded a bit what you described happened, so wonder if the pic is actually from your place. Or is it really just a coincidence someone having similar type of event in another place in the same town the same night?
[QUOTE=Allover;2561379]I never cease to be amazed at how bad Thai girls are at geography. Most are completely clueless.[/QUOTE]Me too. I have a habit of asking them where they are from. Usually they just say name of province or major city nearby their hometown / village.
Next question is what is name of the town / village, and is it north / west / east / south of the major city they mentioned to start with. I think more than 50% look like they have no idea what I am talking about, and indeed they could not say, no idea about N / S / E / W. Amazing.
[QUOTE=Allover;2561379]I never cease to be amazed at how bad Thai girls are at geography. Most are completely clueless.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Knobrm;2561606]Me too. I have a habit of asking them where they are from. Usually they just say name of province or major city nearby their hometown / village.
Next question is what is name of the town / village, and is it north / west / east / south of the major city they mentioned to start with. I think more than 50% look like they have no idea what I am talking about, and indeed they could not say, no idea about N / S / E / W. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Dudes they have been farming rice and rubber all of their lives, not traveling the world. You are talking about the country that opened Hitler Chicken and sells racist stuffed animals on the street. Most people on the planet do not leave outside of the place they were born. You take for granted that you are fortunate enough to not only be educated in certain subjects, but travel the world. Know your audience.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2561602]Maybe just a funny coincidence: a gal I know was supposed to come to my place the same night but cancelled without explanation, just said can not today sorry.
The next day she sent a message with attached photo, telling she went drinking with friends and got drunk and could not come. Of course I knew there was more to the story if it was true in the first place.
Met her today, and she was talking a bit about the party she went, telling bit by bit, kind of peeling the story like an onion but not really telling much detail nor full story. But your post came to my mind as it kind of sounded a bit what you described happened, so wonder if the pic is actually from your place. Or is it really just a coincidence someone having similar type of event in another place in the same town the same night?[/QUOTE]You need to pay more so Cancelling is not an option.
Come on guys. Why the disdain and contempt for Bargirls.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2561631]Come on guys. Why the disdain and contempt for Bargirls.[/QUOTE]Present day lack of familiarity breeds contempt.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561623]Dudes they have been farming rice and rubber all of their lives, not traveling the world. You are talking about the country that opened Hitler Chicken and sells racist stuffed animals on the street. Most people on the planet do not leave outside of the place they were born. You take for granted that you are fortunate enough to not only be educated in certain subjects, but travel the world. Know your audience.[/QUOTE]The reason is that Geography is not a highly rated subject in schools in Asia in general. However before we knock Thai girls, I have found Americans to be remarkably ignorant of geography as well. Examples are confusing Australia and Austria; having no idea where some African countries are and even thinking Africa is a country.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561623]Dudes they have been farming rice and rubber all of their lives, not traveling the world. You are talking about the country that opened Hitler Chicken and sells racist stuffed animals on the street. Most people on the planet do not leave outside of the place they were born. You take for granted that you are fortunate enough to not only be educated in certain subjects, but travel the world. Know your audience.[/QUOTE]Yeah. But still. Understandable they can not put Benin on a map or tell what is capital of Equador, or even to know which country the sponsor comes from. But not to know whether your live south, north, east or west of your local 'capital' still amazes me every time, even if it happened many times. Thai language must have the concepts of directions though as they use terms North, North-East and South Thailand in many situations, but maybe that indeed is only for the educated ones, taught only in college. You are right in saying that should not expect much even in terms of local geography understanding, having the mapping system here that is really not to map any location, rather just for land registry use (for which is okay). Before GPS location not really any practical local location system.
Actually last night had a case of this again. Was dropping the gal that I mentioned in previous post joining the party to her room after our meeting. When reached (in Bongkot), she said shit she had forgot her key inside the room, she need to try to find her roommate. Okay I said need to go eat something now I hungry, went to a place in 3rd road. In the meantime she called her to get the key and after the call the roommate sent her location to line of the gal. Once finished eating she told me ride to Pattaya Tai, her roommate is there in her friend room drinking. I was stupid enough not to look where the point actually was on the map, and just asked once were approaching Sukhumvit, and the navigator she had turned on after leaving the restaurant, pointed to turn to Suk. After turning there I stopped the bike, and took her phone to look where the place actually is. It was in Arunotai Soi 9 (not Pattaya Tai), almost opposite to Nirun. Fuck, you ask me to ride to Pattaya Tai if your friend is in Arunotai. 'Solly, I not long time here and don't know Pattaya roads, Arunotai or Pattaya Tai is the same to me, Im solly' was the answer. WTF. Guess she only knows Soi 6, Buakhao, Bongkot, Central and Beach road. And only moves between those by taxi or mototaxi. Something over 5 km ride to a place that about 1 km from the place we left from if gone straight there, actually less than km from her room.
Lesson to learn: Never trust a Thai about locations, always check and make sure you know where you are supposed to go before you start moving.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2561629]You need to pay more so Cancelling is not an option.[/QUOTE]Well I have no problem with cancellations done in time, but have problem to pay more. Same as someone in front of me picking the last tomatoes of a seller in market I buying my veggies, I will not pay more to her to stop the other person buying. I just walk to another stand and buy at same or lower price 555. Supply is plentiful, not much chance for price manipulation.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2561771]Yeah. But still. Understandable they can not put Benin on a map or tell what is capital of Equador, or even to know which country the sponsor comes from. But not to know whether your live south, north, east or west of your local 'capital' still amazes me every time, even if it happened many times. [/QUOTE]I do not know where you are from, but I am from America and there are tons of people here that do not know either and they had ample opportunity to learn it in school. These people are turning left by the big oak tree, not going northwest on Highway 7. Next you will be surprised how many people that drive do not know the highway from Pattaya to Bangkok is Route 7. They just know the way to go.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2561779]I do not know where you are from, but I am from America and there are tons of people here that do not know either and they had ample opportunity to learn it in school. These people are turning left by the big oak tree, not going northwest on Highway 7. Next you will be surprised how many people that drive do not know the highway from Pattaya to Bangkok is Route 7. They just know the way to go.[/QUOTE]
I'm from northern Europe. Yeah, I guess similar everywhere in that regard, people just live in their local reality, whatever it is. Guess they wonder equally how people like me do not know the Oak tree is because everyone they know knows, it has always been there how can someone not know. Or why we ask if should go all the way via 7 or take 34 rather than talking about which side of the oak tree we should take where the road splits.
Actually, I have visited homes of two chicks on the sticks, and it was as you said, they knew the way there (both had cars before though). But yes I guess they had no idea of the highway numbers that I was looking to get there, they just know their way home like a dog, or an eel to Sargasso sea.
But have to say where I come from, hard to find people who don't know NSWE. But probably have those too somewhere 555.
Another off-topic (distantly related) case came to my mind, once you mentioned America, I was living & working in CA for some years long time ago when I was still young (still handsome in Pattaya though!). In early days of my time there, we were planning how to organize a factory trip to China that was needed for some production ramp-up. Turned out that one guy (mechanical engineer or technician by education) who kind of should be in the team, did not have passport. I was like what, how come a 35 year old not have passport. In my reality really there were no people without passport, as in Europe you needed it to go neighboring country (as this prior to EU). His team leader just calmly (jokingly though) said that Americans really do not need passport as they can go everywhere in the world with ID/drivers license, meaning that Mexico and Canada (presumably) did not need passport for a visit, and that's it! World done 555.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2561602]Maybe just a funny coincidence: a gal I know was supposed to come to my place the same night but cancelled without explanation, just said can not today sorry.
The next day she sent a message with attached photo, telling she went drinking with friends and got drunk and could not come. Of course I knew there was more to the story if it was true in the first place.
Met her today, and she was talking a bit about the party she went, telling bit by bit, kind of peeling the story like an onion but not really telling much detail nor full story. But your post came to my mind as it kind of sounded a bit what you described happened, so wonder if the pic is actually from your place. Or is it really just a coincidence someone having similar type of event in another place in the same town the same night?[/QUOTE]Not my place, I wouldn't serve such crappy tequila.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2561602]Maybe just a funny coincidence: a gal I know was supposed to come to my place the same night but cancelled without explanation, just said can not today sorry.
The next day she sent a message with attached photo, telling she went drinking with friends and got drunk and could not come. Of course I knew there was more to the story if it was true in the first place.
Met her today, and she was talking a bit about the party she went, telling bit by bit, kind of peeling the story like an onion but not really telling much detail nor full story. But your post came to my mind as it kind of sounded a bit what you described happened, so wonder if the pic is actually from your place. Or is it really just a coincidence someone having similar type of event in another place in the same town the same night?[/QUOTE]I'll be in Thailand until end of June so feel free to PM me so that we can have a drink. Better than talking to yourself. Don't be shy. LOL.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2561796]Not my place, I wouldn't serve such crappy tequila.[/QUOTE]555 okay. So there is at least another guy who had quite similar event the same night, somewhere in Jomtien area I understood. But that fellow is seemingly low class then.
Also, one specific point she emphasized that even if there were several girls played off their clothes and drinking, he only took one for boomboom so really must be a cheap charlie!
I guess she was just telling to create impression that she only went to party that night. Believes who wants. Anyway, entertaining incidents during these quiet times.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2493683]LOL. Seriously? She is about to go vegetable farming in the winter in South Korea? I have heard of chicks going there to work in massage parlors and chicks going there to be hookers, but never vegetable farming. What you describe is a chick that is about to get tricked into sex slavery. Never heard it from the vegetable farm angle though.[/QUOTE]Funny coincidences these days. The party similar of another poster, and yesterday a discussion that brought a flashback to this vegetable farm discussion last year.
Bumped to a gal that I went with several years ago few times and she came by and were talking about life since met last time. I think she around 30 now. She had been working in 'boom boom massage' in Dubai and Korea. Too small / skinny for Dubai customers so biz no good and come back. From Korea was deported after working there for some time.
The flashback was when she was telling about the explanation to her family about what she actually is doing as work in Korea, and she said she had told mama & family that she working on Strawberry farm! So the story about vegetable farm as a work place must be a common cover story that the girls that go there use to tell to their own families, not really meant for farang per se, though seems that some use as story for farang customers as well. Believes who wants. Anyway first time for me hearing it from horses mouth directly.
Mama probably don't know that it is freezing in Korea, nor that strawberries not really grow that well sub zero. I assume this is something that the agents who recruit the girls there use as std cover story, so moves from girl to girl. Maybe strawberry for some mama, and cherry for another!
She had made very good money in Korea, and made house and bought all kind of stuff for mama and family, mama wondering how come strawberry farming so good in Korea. Mama may or may not have believed though 555.
After coming back to Thailand, she presumably started to work as agent go recruit girls to Korea, told very goo biz with good commission. Not sure if she said 10 or 20 k for the agent fee, anyway seems some gals are able to go up the food chain in their industry. But but, 'fucking covid' came and girls can not go to Korea now so need to try do some work herself 555. She must have said 20 times fucking covid during the time she spent with me.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2562087]
Mama probably don't know that it is freezing in Korea, nor that strawberries not really grow that well sub zero. [/QUOTE]It's only freezing there in the winter, not all year round. So in spring, summer and autumn the Koreans are perfectly able to grow strawberries.
Any news regarding the Travel insurance cost in SEA during post Covid sessions. Travel expenses, waiting period in airport for VOA and PCR tests in airports will complicate things in coming times.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2561606]Me too. I have a habit of asking them where they are from. Usually they just say name of province or major city nearby their hometown / village.
Next question is what is name of the town / village, and is it north / west / east / south of the major city they mentioned to start with. I think more than 50% look like they have no idea what I am talking about, and indeed they could not say, no idea about N / S / E / W. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Had a girl ask me once how come the sun could shine in Thailand and also in elsewhere in the world!
[QUOTE=BestMate;2562302]Had a girl ask me once how come the sun could shine in Thailand and also in elsewhere in the world![/QUOTE]And I thought our high school students had holes in their education LOL.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2562108]Travel Insurance Costs
Any news regarding the Travel insurance cost in SEA during post Covid sessions. Travel expenses, waiting period in airport for VOA and PCR tests in airports[/QUOTE]Explorer did this twice and much more recently than xxl, FL Hawk, or I so I'll let Explorer respond to this is in great detail.
I believe you can buy your travel insurance just like you would have done before any trip in the past. Just check with your insurer they have 100k USD (3.5 million baht) of COVID coverage. Also check to see what travel advisories your home country has for the countries you are visiting. Disobeying a travel advisory can void part or all of your travel insurance. Call your insurer to discuss. To be safe I would buy Thai travel insurance by one of the approved Thai Immigration insurance companies selling COVID insurance. You never know which IO you get when you get to Thailand or received incorrect information from your usual insurer. I forgot how much I paid but it was a nominal amount relative to my trip expenses to worry about the added expense.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2562359]Explorer did this twice and much more recently than xxl, FL Hawk, or I so I'll let Explorer respond to this is in great detail.
I believe you can buy your travel insurance just like you would have done before any trip in the past. Just check with your insurer they have 100k USD (3.5 million baht) of COVID coverage. Also check to see what travel advisories your home country has for the countries you are visiting. Disobeying a travel advisory can void part or all of your travel insurance. Call your insurer to discuss. To be safe I would buy Thai travel insurance by one of the approved Thai Immigration insurance companies selling COVID insurance. You never know which IO you get when you get to Thailand or received incorrect information from your usual insurer. I forgot how much I paid but it was a nominal amount relative to my trip expenses to worry about the added expense.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]As a foreign citizen can I take an covid coverage insurance after reaching there? I will carry a regular travel insurance from home country.
Thanks for the replay BB.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2562359]Explorer did this twice and much more recently than xxl, FL Hawk, or I so I'll let Explorer respond to this is in great detail.
I believe you can buy your travel insurance just like you would have done before any trip in the past. Just check with your insurer they have 100k USD (3.5 million baht) of COVID coverage. Also check to see what travel advisories your home country has for the countries you are visiting. Disobeying a travel advisory can void part or all of your travel insurance. Call your insurer to discuss. To be safe I would buy Thai travel insurance by one of the approved Thai Immigration insurance companies selling COVID insurance. You never know which IO you get when you get to Thailand or received incorrect information from your usual insurer. I forgot how much I paid but it was a nominal amount relative to my trip expenses to worry about the added expense.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]I just applied online with AXA, got 90 days coverage for about $200. The certificate was good enough to get me into Thailand. Did it once in January, and once in April.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2562370]As a foreign citizen can I take an covid coverage insurance after reaching there? I will carry a regular travel insurance from home country.
Thanks for the replay BB.[/QUOTE]You will need a certificate issued by a Thai insurer to get into Thailand.
In an effort to break up my routine of heavy drinking at night surrounded by naked women, I am taking a couple of ladies to Krabi tomorrow. I am prepared for Krabi to be mostly closed, but, it's cheap there now, and the flight is cheap.
I have searched the Google for Covid restrictions but I don't see anything about Krabi.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2562391]In an effort to break up my routine of heavy drinking at night surrounded by naked women, I am taking a couple of ladies to Krabi tomorrow. I am prepared for Krabi to be mostly closed, but, it's cheap there now, and the flight is cheap.
I have searched the Google for Covid restrictions but I don't see anything about Krabi.[/QUOTE]Surely your alter ego (s) will give you an answer to that question.
[QUOTE=XXL;2562407]Surely your alter ego (s) will give you an answer to that question.[/QUOTE]Who or what is my alter ego? Am I a bargirl in another life?
[QUOTE=BestMate;2562302]Had a girl ask me once how come the sun could shine in Thailand and also in elsewhere in the world![/QUOTE]I had a guy come on a sex forum on a thread titled "Pattaya reports" to brag how much smarter he was than a Thai bar girl when presumably he had access to free tertiary education and she was a farmers daughter who had only access to a 3rd grade education. Why don't you brag how much more you know than someone living in the middle ages, after all we would all be more interested in that than an actual report on the current scene in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2562409]Who or what is my alter ego? Am I a bargirl in another life?[/QUOTE]Dunno about another life. I have a more than a hunch about this life though. Why don't you take a flight from Krabi to Frankfurt in a couple of days and report about the action in FKK Sharks and FKK Oase?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2561268]I think some of you guys have forgotten what a decent looking Pattaya bar girl looked like, pre-COVID. I know it's been a while. Here's a little reminder. These are not my photos since my laptop is in Pattaya but are from one of my Thai bars around Spring, 2020.
Yes they do livestreaming as well but of course they're not currently open. They also make sure no customers are EVER on cam.[/QUOTE]These are my last two weeks of recents Thai girls off TF. I'm pretty sure you guys know how to use the "search" function of TF to see more of their pics. Does Monkeypaw still have that "eye?" Not sure how they would even rank amongst my PRE-COVID conquests because it's been so long, I think I've forgotten most of their faces. Anyways 1100 - 3000 are asking prices for the ones I'm hooking up with of TF. And yeah, it does say "Inbox" at the top, not "Outbox." So now you know what the Paw is eating, perhaps some of these other guys can tell me what's on their plate for dinner?
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2562414]I had a guy come on a sex forum on a thread titled "Pattaya reports" to brag how much smarter he was than a Thai bar girl when presumably he had access to free tertiary education and she was a farmers daughter who had only access to a 3rd grade education. Why don't you brag how much more you know than someone living in the middle ages, after all we would all be more interested in that than an actual report on the current scene in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]We need photos of hot 500 baht girls.
So on Mods livstream the most unattractive of the Bunch keeps Preening herself like she is some kind of Beauty.
Come on Girl.
Not being in Pattaya or Thailand, I can not go see myself. So I have to ask: Is Devils Den in soi LK metro gone?
I was looking in the street view and it looked like there is another bar there now. Exotic, I think the name is. However actually searching the name will give a result in the same place.
The homepage for Devils Den is still up.
Would anyone like to comment?
[QUOTE=FirstLover;2562788]Not being in Pattaya or Thailand, I can not go see myself. So I have to ask: Is Devils Den in soi LK metro gone?
I was looking in the street view and it looked like there is another bar there now. Exotic, I think the name is. However actually searching the name will give a result in the same place.
The homepage for Devils Den is still up.
Would anyone like to comment?[/QUOTE]The Devil's Den in soi LK Metro should be gone, they were supposed to reopen in another location but I think the covid ruined their plans.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2562794]The Devil's Den in soi LK Metro should be gone, they were supposed to reopen in another location but I think the covid ruined their plans.[/QUOTE]Should be?? It Is! And yes, another bar has taken it's place, but I don't recall the name right now.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2562465]These are my last two weeks of recents Thai girls off TF. I'm pretty sure you guys know how to use the "search" function of TF to see more of their pics. Does Monkeypaw still have that "eye?" Not sure how they would even rank amongst my PRE-COVID conquests because it's been so long, I think I've forgotten most of their faces. Anyways 1100 - 3000 are asking prices for the ones I'm hooking up with of TF. And yeah, it does say "Inbox" at the top, not "Outbox." So now you know what the Paw is eating, perhaps some of these other guys can tell me what's on their plate for dinner?[/QUOTE]Do you use premium subscription. I can't seem to figure out the TF. I press the lightening bolt and use it like tinder. But I can't seem to send likes to people who already liked unless I have premium membership. I can send chat message to few folks with out premium. But after a message, it shows a countdown timer.
[QUOTE=Kaskoraja;2562833]Do you use premium subscription. I can't seem to figure out the TF. I press the lightening bolt and use it like tinder. But I can't seem to send likes to people who already liked unless I have premium membership. I can send chat message to few folks with out premium. But after a message, it shows a countdown timer.[/QUOTE]Yes, the likes you get are useless since you can only act upon them by "upgrading". I suspect many of those likes could be bogus, only a ploy for you to take out a paid subscription.
I set the age of desirable girls to 18-29 but nevertheless most girls I get on my short list are 30-50.
I was a paying member of TF for one month last year. Nothing came out of it. Give me 2 hours on Soi 6 when it's up and running and I bag more contacts than in 12 months as a premium member on TF.
[QUOTE=XXL;2562838]I was a paying member of TF for one month last year. Nothing came out of it. Give me 2 hours on Soi 6 when it's up and running and I bag more contacts than in 12 months as a premium member on TF.[/QUOTE]TF may be needed now when bars are all closed and girls are scarce but have to agree with xxl. Pre-COVID (and hopefully soon again) why does anyone need TF or escort agencies where you don't meet the girl first to pick up girls in Thailand? 5,000+ working girls in person and running around Pattaya aren't enough to meet one in person?
Kaskoraja, are you actually in Thailand? I understand you won't get many responses unless you are. I scanned TF on my first ever trip to Thailand but never hooked up with anyone. I quit TF on my 2nd trip when I saw my Sapphire gogo girl's mom on TF. She somehow made it to the TF under 25 list. Enough said.
[QUOTE=XXL;2562838]I was a paying member of TF for one month last year. Nothing came out of it. Give me 2 hours on Soi 6 when it's up and running and I bag more contacts than in 12 months as a premium member on TF.[/QUOTE]Bingo! You can get laid on TF, especially with TFMI, I sure did. However, it's a laborious process of filtering the working girls from the civilians, then finding the very few I'd care to spend the effort on, then getting their Line (not all respond), then setting it all up (sometimes fails due to pricing, availability, flakiness and so on). There are so few genuine lookers that each one that's fails to respond or is late is a minor disappointment. For me, that's all work, no fun. I'll get laid in the end, but I'm better off having a quick wank and doing something else.
On the other hand, a place like Beach Road or lower Sukhumvit in their heyday were all fun, with huge amount of choice and immediate gratification. The fun of choosing almost exceeded the fun of actual sex, which was sometimes mediocre, although there were occasional gems.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2562927]Bingo! You can get laid on TF, especially with TFMI, I sure did. However, it's a laborious process of filtering the working girls from the civilians, then finding the very few I'd care to spend the effort on, then getting their Line (not all respond), then setting it all up (sometimes fails due to pricing, availability, flakiness and so on).[/QUOTE]If you use TFMI then you should be able to find girls you know are freelancers and link to their reviews, that should be enough to filter out the girls. It's a great resource to find girls before the bars open or after the gogo's close and now at a time of lockdown it's the best solution while the bars are closed.
[QUOTE=XXL;2562429]Dunno about another life. I have a more than a hunch about this life though. Why don't you take a flight from Krabi to Frankfurt in a couple of days and report about the action in FKK Sharks and FKK Oase?[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I will be returning to Pattaya on Sunday.
I should note that Krabi is really slow.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2563081]Sorry, but I will be returning to Pattaya on Sunday.
I should note that Krabi is really slow.[/QUOTE]No worry. We all believe you, especially the 4 or 5 members here who are really in Thailand.
[QUOTE=XXL;2563084]No worry. We all believe you, especially the 4 or 5 members here who are really in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I'm not in Thailand. Should I be worried?
[QUOTE=Downandup;2563077]If you use TFMI then you should be able to find girls you know are freelancers and link to their reviews, that should be enough to filter out the girls. It's a great resource to find girls before the bars open or after the gogo's close and now at a time of lockdown it's the best solution while the bars are closed.[/QUOTE]Is TFMI only for Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2562391]I am taking a couple of ladies to Krabi tomorrow. <snip> I have searched the Google for Covid restrictions but I don't see anything about Krabi.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2563080]I am in Krabi now, and it is as dead as can be. At least I found a 7/11 that is open.[/QUOTE]Curious how was the process at the airport after you landed in Krabi from Chonburi province. Did the immigration officer say anything to you or your Thai ladies? Were you told the same things as the Thai ladies?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2563292]Curious how was the process at the airport after you landed in Krabi from Chonburi province. Did the immigration officer say anything to you or your Thai ladies? Were you told the same things as the Thai ladies?[/QUOTE]The process started at Suvarnaphumi airport. Everyone had to download an app and fill it in. I did mine in English, and it took 5 minutes. One of the Thai ladies needed 30 minutes.
Upon arrival in Krabi airport, there was a line just before baggage claim. Everyone was asked to sit at a booth. While standing in the line, I flagged someone and showed them my CDC vaccination card, and they waved me through. So, I collected the luggage while waiting for the Thai ladies.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2563095]Is TFMI only for Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Not at all but it's mostly Pattaya. The site is driven off reports on the Addicts site and the Pattaya site is where it started so there is very little yet for Bangkok and almost nothing elsewhere. You can search by any TF name and see if there is a report but the only two locations at this time are Pattaya and Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2563441]Not at all but it's mostly Pattaya. The site is driven off reports on the Addicts site and the Pattaya site is where it started so there is very little yet for Bangkok and almost nothing elsewhere. You can search by any TF name and see if there is a report but the only two locations at this time are Pattaya and Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Sorry but what is TFMI?
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2563488]Sorry but what is TFMI?[/QUOTE]It's a web site where you can see reviews of freelancers; bar girls etc on Thai Friendly, not everyone on ThaiFriendly is on the program so this is a great resource to find out which girls are known to be and how they perform.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2563339]The process started at Suvarnaphumi airport. Everyone had to download an app and fill it in. I did mine in English, and it took 5 minutes. One of the Thai ladies needed 30 minutes.
Upon arrival in Krabi airport, there was a line just before baggage claim. Everyone was asked to sit at a booth. While standing in the line, I flagged someone and showed them my CDC vaccination card, and they waved me through. So, I collected the luggage while waiting for the Thai ladies.[/QUOTE]I can not do anything with this app (Morchana) except making a selfie, nothing for register? How did you manage.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2563488]Sorry but what is TFMI?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Downandup;2563771]It's a web site where you can see reviews of freelancers; bar girls etc on Thai Friendly, not everyone on ThaiFriendly is on the program so this is a great resource to find out which girls are known to be and how they perform.[/QUOTE]This is my first time hearing of this. I have been an Addict since 2012 and have the card. Unfortunately, I do not read the site and have 0 posts there. You need to be a member at least 6 months and have at least 50 quality posts in order to use TFMI. From the part that I could see it is a nice site and I see several chicks that I have dealt that have been rated and reviewed.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2563488]Sorry but what is TFMI?[/QUOTE]TFMI = Thai Friendly Master Index. You have to have "Advanced" status on PA to be able to access the reviews but anyone can look at the TFMI site. It's [URL]https://tfmi.wtf/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Fmojo;2563899]TFMI = Thai Friendly Master Index. You have to have "Advanced" status on PA to be able to access the reviews but anyone can look at the TFMI site. It's [URL]https://tfmi.wtf/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer. But is "PA" ?
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2563954]Thanks for your answer. But is "PA" ?[/QUOTE][URL]https://pattaya-addicts.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=KoratMan;2563797]I can not do anything with this app (Morchana) except making a selfie, nothing for register? How did you manage.[/QUOTE]When checking in, I was shown a QR code, which I scanned with my phone, and a web page popped up.
Mor Chana is different. Instead of taking a selfie, you scan a QR code at whatever shop you are entering.
[QUOTE=XXL;2562838]I was a paying member of TF for one month last year. Nothing came out of it. Give me 2 hours on Soi 6 when it's up and running and I bag more contacts than in 12 months as a premium member on TF.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can arrange a hooker from Thai Friendly and many of us have succeeded. But that isn't the forte of TF, it is much better for shopping for your vacation girlfriend. Contact a few girls a month prior to traveling and spend 10 minutes per day in video chat. If you are well suited, she will join you for your vacation, fuck your brains out, and never ask for money beyond travel expenses. My buddy did this 3 times with 3 girls and ended up married to the last one. I did it 4 times for about a week each with 4 different girls and had 4 great weeks.
ThaiFlirting is also very good for finding a vacation girlfriend.
There are definitely beer bars open on Soi Buakhao serving liquor and girls. This Sunday at about 11 AM I decided to do my morning exercise walk on Soi Buakhao instead of the beach and hooked up with a really short, but a 9 on the cuteness scale at a beer bar that was open serving anything you wanted. I am going to do my evening walk there today to see how much busier it is.
I got my haircut on Soi Buakhao the other day and there were three super nice looking bar girls in the salon getting their hair cut, which got me thinking. Where are they getting the money from to pay for this? I said to myself, I know there have to be bars open, so my suspicion was correct.
The Thai people have had enough of no money and have started doing what they need to. Before that I ate a typical English breakfast for 99 Baht at Nicky's and it was the best breakfast I have had in 18 years in Thailand. The reason it was so good is that everything was cooked perfectly and I was even able to eat the usual crappy Thai sausage. After breakfast and the girl I was walking back to my car that I parked by the market on Soi Buakhao off second road and I ran into a few more girls out on the street and one of them was a 8 or 9. Soi Buakhao is the only place to hang out in Pattaya right now if you are looking for a girl.
As for Thai Friendly I have an entire rolodex of girls looking for customers. I brought over 5 of them, and of course only the best looking ones and not a one looked anywhere close to their picture. Better than nothing I guess, but now that I know about Soi Buakhao forget that. If you want to find girls on Thai Friendly the trick is to leave the site open all the time. The default search automatically opens to people online. If you leave it open you will be flooded with "interest" requests and messages. Almost every young girl will be looking for customers.
This was posted below and I could not figure out how to get it in italics.
""But that isn't the forte of TF, it is much better for shopping for your vacation girlfriend. Contact a few girls a month prior to traveling and spend 10 minutes per day in video chat. If you are well suited, she will join you for your vacation, fuck your brains out, and never ask for money beyond travel expenses. My buddy did this 3 times with 3 girls and ended up married to the last one. I did it 4 times for about a week each with 4 different girls and had 4 great weeks. ".
This guy's post is just total Bull Shit. That's right buddy, I am saying if you pulled this off one time, consider yourself lucky. But to say your buddy did it 3 times is a total crock of shit. There is so much wrong with your post I wonder if you have ever even been to Thailand.
First, how long do you think it would take to find a few girls that could speak good enough English to chat with a few times a week. If you don't know the answer, it is a hell of a long time or never, whichever came first. Second, Thai girls like using Line to send messages and pictures of themselves or whatever they are eating to their friends, they hardly ever talk to each other.
Third, let's say you meet a girl that has a regular job, most of them only get around 10 days off a year. Now, if you meet a girl with a good job she might have 30 days off a year and she is going to use half of them to hang out with some guy she has been chatting with online. Maybe, in fact, that is the only way suggestion could work. But, you can be damn sure you're not getting anything but very average to down right ugly lady to spend time with in Thailand. Not my idea of fun.
Fourth, this time you find an English speaking bar girl. This is your best chance of finding an English speaker by the way. You're telling me she is going to stop working for two weeks and travel around with you for free. NOT happening, all these girls have families that depend on them sending money home.
Fifth, this is your last option by the way. To find a girl that lost her regular job and has free time on her hands. You are telling me she is going to leave her family, kids, mother, father, possibly boyfriend or husband to travel around the country with you for free. She lost her job, has no money, her family needs to eat and she is going to say fuck that and go hang out with you for two weeks. Ha Ha Ha, Cut the shit and stop posting crap.
By the way, while I have been writing this I have had 6 "interest" request come in from Thai Friendly. Two young girls looking for customers and the other 4 are looking for boy friends. Since I am looking for a new girlfriend, those are the ones I am most interested in. Almost all of the ladies looking for boy friends that contact me are not my style, which is super hot and sexy.
Just leave Thai Friendly on when you are online and you will be flooded with girls.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2564074]I got my haircut on Soi Buakhao the other day and there were three super nice looking bar girls in the salon getting their hair cut, which got me thinking. Where are they getting the money from to pay for this? I said to myself, I know there have to be bars open, so my suspicion was correct.[/QUOTE]If I suspected they were bar girls and working I would ask them where they work. They may work at a bar that is not obviously open or off the beaten path. Better yet, if you think the girls are super nice looking just ask them out. Worse that could happen is for them to reject you.
Seems like guys are coming to Thailand to look for a girlfriend? It was the last thing on my mind when I was coming to Thailand as a tourist. If you want a girlfriend meet one where you live or at least closer than a 20 hour flight. If you want a variety of girls then go to Thailand, Jakarta, Germany, Brazil, Medellin, etc.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2564142]If I suspected they were bar girls and working I would ask them where they work. They may work at a bar that is not obviously open or off the beaten path. Better yet, if you think the girls are super nice looking just ask them out. Worse that could happen is for them to reject you.[/QUOTE]Seriously, I did a lot more than that. Since I had to wait about 1/2 hour to get my hair cut, I went out and bought everybody in the shop which was 3 girls and 2 hair stylists frozen fruit drinks like mango, watermelon and coconut. I wanted to make sure the girls knew I was serious and had money. Of course I tried to start talking to them, but only one of them spoke good enough English to hold a conversation and she had to be getting her haircut in the seat furthest from where I was. After she finished, she waited for her friend to get done and sat down next to me in the waiting seats. While she was taking a seemingly endless number of pictures of herself with her new haircut I started talking to her. She was friendly but would not give up any info about bars or where she worked. So, I changed directions and asked her for her phone number. She then said something I had not heard before and I thought it was funny. She asked me "what am I going to do to her. " and "I told her a lot", and she laughed. But, in the end, no bar names and no phone numbers, shit. I did make friends with the hair stylists though, so the afternoon was not a total loss.
Bill, happy to hear you were proactive. Too bad things didn't work out. You even took it one step further. Girls really appreciate guys doing little things like that. I wrote what I did because some guys on here appear to not have the know how to actually ask a girl out if the girl isn't physically in a bar.
On my daily round through Buakhao area the other day, saw some serious make overs are going on. Who would want to paint the new Gogo bar in LK (formerly Ninja), white as white can be? This is what I am talking about when it comes to making poor ass decisions in the bar business. All it takes is a quick look at the 3 other bars that have the white signage or paint, and you will eventually see what your own club will look like after the rainy season. Geez. The first good that did happen on my walk, was that a quick stop into Tesco Lotus, revealed 200 grams of cheese slices for 59 baht. Anybody who lives in Thailand knows cheese is expensive as fuck here. And yeah, that's right, Monkeypaw was the one who took all, but the one package left behind. These go quick and only come in stock once every month at Tesco. No shame in my game in taking most of it. There is always the other 100 grams 6 slice packs for 65 baht. The other good thing that happened, on the way back from the market, the Paw ran into probably, the only waitress in all the LK Metro and WS GoGo bars (wait there is another one when Sensations was open), that makes it 2, that I would pump my dick into. We had little to no rapport before this meet. She was my waitress a few times, got a smile, a drink order, and my bill and change. That's all. But I bet that ass may be recognizable to some who regularly frequent the GoGo bars. Quick negotiation and it was back to my room for a wham, bam, thank you m'am session for 1000 baht. Yes! There is a GOD, because this one was a real screamer. I think all they Angels in Heaven heard and were calling my name to quiet her down. By the way does anybody know Spanish?
[URL]https://voca.ro/18X3zcfNXmWY[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kaskoraja;2562833]Do you use premium subscription. I can't seem to figure out the TF. I press the lightening bolt and use it like tinder. But I can't seem to send likes to people who already liked unless I have premium membership. I can send chat message to few folks with out premium. But after a message, it shows a countdown timer.[/QUOTE]Sorry it took awhile for me to answer, but Monkeypaw has been busy with massages, movies, getting blow jobs, and getting laid. "No," I do not use the Premium Subscription for ThaiFriendly. With me, most of my fucks have came off TF on this long ass, way over one year, vacation in Pattaya. Monkeypaw doesn't have no where to be, no job, no home, no significant other, so I am right where I belong. But all of the girls I get off of TF, I reach out first to. It doesn't come from their LIKES or VIEWS. I've learned to hack the app in order to get my search parameters to exactly what I want without having to pay for anything. For others who don't know the secret, a girl's height and weight are off limits in an adjusted search and require an upgrade. So yeah, then there are more chances of the "undesirables. " You get them all shapes and sizes, but I am pretty picky. Even as a Standard Member, I am still able set my search parameters to Girls, 29 and under, with 50 kg being the max weight. I've also figured how to send messages to Premium Only or Popular girls and break the one message every 10 minutes thing (which is countdown timer you see and the limit for other Standard Members). You have to wait until the 10 minutes are up before you can send another message. I don't. And keep in mind, I also just have an unpaid Standard Only membership. For now, you just have to have faith that Monkeypaw is just cool like that. Do I want to share my secret on how it's done? Not really. Monkeypaw always leaves the best for myself and silence is oh so golden at times. How uncool of me!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2563882]This is my first time hearing of this. I have been an Addict since 2012 and have the card. Unfortunately, I do not read the site and have 0 posts there. You need to be a member at least 6 months and have at least 50 quality posts in order to use TFMI. From the part that I could see it is a nice site and I see several chicks that I have dealt that have been rated and reviewed.[/QUOTE]Got to be careful with Addicts and TFMI. I only spent a very short time on there (less than a handful of posts) and I could smell the White Knights everywhere. They come to the rescue of certain girls because they have some sort relationship with them, beyond hooker and John. Some of those dudes that are trying to get good in or freebies with the girls, flip out at pictures and reviews on a mongering site. Go figure. Managers and owners of bars posing as members, while self promoting their places and girls. Those who require reports or reviews on girls are mainly the newbies. That site knows that, and eats them up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner with snacks in between. My logic is if you like the girl and have confidence in your own game or hustle, then take the leap of faith yourself. The truth is that there are at least two sides to every story or review. So why would anybody let another monger, or two, or three, deter them from fucking a girl they are attracted to?
Every girl is game in Pattaya, just like in real life. And with TFMI, it is really easy to dox out somebody. I've taken brief look at TFMI and I can tell you, some of those TF profiles on there aren't real. I see post ops, that don't have the correct tags and yet they have been reviewed as a being girls. I can spot out TF accounts used to dox out the guys. How easy it is to set up fake account, hide from the main site, and promote it on TFMI just to find out who is who? All it takes is a click on the profile and your own profile is in the "VIEWED YOU" tracking. Trails are easily set up by giving or posting a link or a profile, somewhere else and all it takes is one click of curiosity. To link back to TMIF. They will now the person behind the handle. I've been here in Pattaya for 15 months now, if I see a profile on TFMI, but not on TF, especially a new one, then there are suspicions. Of course, the TFMI links back to Addicts, and this conversation can loop itself back to my first sentence above. The games people play. I don't think so, Homey don't play that.
Ok, I give up. What's the difference between TF (ThaiFriendly) and TFMI??
[QUOTE=Goferring;2564574]Ok, I give up. What's the difference between TF (ThaiFriendly) and TFMI??[/QUOTE]TFMI is for mongering. It contains links to TF profiles (possibly multiple) of confirmed freelancers, based on session reports from mongers on the relevant Pattaya forum (members only).
TF is just a plain old dating site, and filtering out freelancers is tedious and hit and miss (even in Pattaya sometimes). TFMI makes finding freelancers on TF 10 times easier and more efficient.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2564451]
Got to be careful with Addicts and TFMI. I only spent a very short time on there (less than a handful of posts) and I could smell the White Knights everywhere. They come to the rescue of certain girls because they have some sort relationship with them, beyond hooker and John. [/QUOTE]My exact opinion of addicts. White Knights all over the place and guys who post to build brownie points with a girl or a bar. I met some Addicts guys totally by accident as a friend invited me to dinner. I knew they were board guys but they denied it all like it was some big secret. Figured out they were on Addicts by reading a few posts of big posters with the exact same opinions and wording of those opinions as I heard over dinner. What a bunch of old misfits.
On the home screen I see "11 popular members hidden". I am only allowed to contact those better looking (but probably bogus) profiles if I become a paying member.
I also get a shitload of likes to which I can respond only if I become a paying member. Surprise surprise, a great deal of of those likes come from good-looking profiles I never see on my home screen. They may not even be real and if they are I suspect the likes were generated by TF and not by the girls.
I'd upgrade my membership if I had hopes of it being a deal changer but I know better.
You would probably get access to better girls on dating apps in most other countries than what you get in Thailand. I mean for example better MILFs with ok MILF bodies and not MILFs with only mommy bodies. The major difference is of course that in Thailand you can safely proposition the girls for paid sex while you may not be able to do that in many countries.
I would be ashamed to show the TF line-up to my acquaintances and (girl)friends in Brazil. They would say "what?".
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2564613]TFMI is for mongering. It contains links to TF profiles (possibly multiple) of confirmed freelancers, based on session reports from mongers on the relevant Pattaya forum (members only).
TF is just a plain old dating site, and filtering out freelancers is tedious and hit and miss (even in Pattaya sometimes). TFMI makes finding freelancers on TF 10 times easier and more efficient.[/QUOTE]If it is a young pretty girl, I just asked them if they are looking for customers or boyfriends? In the last 30 seconds this happened, and most of the young ones from Pattaya are looking for customers. And they don't seem to get offended and answer right away. I don't ask the older ones that.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2564720]If it is a young pretty girl, I just asked them if they are looking for customers or boyfriends? In the last 30 seconds this happened, and most of the young ones from Pattaya are looking for customers. And they don't seem to get offended and answer right away. I don't ask the older ones that.[/QUOTE]Prior to reading this forum few posts back, I never heard of this TFMI either. Maybe a symptom / indication of not really being into this online stuff, though in since last summer have been using TF quite a bit. Really a hit and miss, and is really annoying when the chick comes and the reality only distantly resembles the photos. Has become kind of last resort when regulars not available or random gamble hobby place if in mood for gambling.
My experience is that out of the younger and / or better looking ones, the percentage of not looking customer is really low, especially if it is not mentioned in the profile that she actually is looking for BF. In reality many are looking for 'everything', meaning they looking customer who, if lucky, could become a boyfriend or sponsor.
Having said that, have had dates with few, less than a dozen, 30-40 years old who were not looking customer at all, and would not go for money. Every single one of them mentioned about the annoyance of all men only asking 'how much', and especially about the questions of special services (like anal) that they really were not familiar at all. They really not like it and were seemingly irritated about it. I just told you are in wrong place in TF if you get annoyed of that as 90++ of ladies are after customers. They were astonished (at least behaved as if they would have been) and expected it would have been more of a dating site. They were just out of place without really knowing it, and some probably would not like their photos to be placed there afterwards.
Hard to say about male supplier vs GF looking split, but gut feeling tells that might not be that different, possibly higher % guys (all over the planet) looking for GF actually than % of ladies looking for BF.
This kind of further gravitates TF to be purely a mongering place as quite a few of the BF searching ones just get out from there due to this. Which is kind of pity.
But not all, so every now and then can date a 'normal' one if patient to hang on the site enough.
Funny thing sometimes is girls who primarily looking fr customers get annoyed when asking openly what you looking; they kind of expect the guy to know so that they don't need to say the word 'customer' or waste time to chat in the first place.
[QUOTE=XXL;2564718]On the home screen I see "11 popular members hidden". I am only allowed to contact those better looking (but probably bogus) profiles if I become a paying member.[/QUOTE]It sounds as if you are using the Android app, the web site is more helpful but if you don't pay the subscription then you will find that you can't message the most popular girls and there's a limit of one message every 10 minutes.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2564739]...My experience is that out of the younger and / or better looking ones, the percentage of not looking customer is really low, especially if it is not mentioned in the profile that she actually is looking for BF. In reality many are looking for 'everything', meaning they looking customer who, if lucky, could become a boyfriend or sponsor.
Having said that, have had dates with few, less than a dozen, 30-40 years old who were not looking customer at all, and would not go for money. Every single one of them mentioned about the annoyance of all men only asking 'how much', ...
Hard to say about male supplier vs GF looking split, but gut feeling tells that might not be that different, possibly higher % guys (all over the planet) looking for GF actually than % of ladies looking for BF ...[/QUOTE]Agree that more younger girls are looking for customers than older girls, but there sure seem to be plenty of chunky-uglies looking for customers. In my experience, most of the older (42+) girls are looking for a boyfriend and husband. When you are my age, the 42+ girls are young enough. For me, the problem with 42+ is fewer speak English than 30-, but there are enough.
Geography is another indicator. More will be looking for customers in tourist towns, most notably Pattaya. Very few looking for customers in low-tourist areas, such as Nakhon Si Thammarat.
Girls looking for men of any age are most likely looking for customers. Girls insisting you be in town before contact are most likely looking for customers. Text clues such as "I'm a good woman" or "have good heart" imply looking for boyfriend. The ones with no text can be hard to interpret.
It should take about 15 seconds per girl to make a pretty good guess if she is looking for a customer or for a husband.
I bought some drinks for 3 ladies tonight. Unfortunately, they got a bit rambunctious, and I ended up with the ladies trying to push their vaginas in my face. It might seem like fun, but 3 ladies are stronger than me, and it got a bit scary.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2564720]If it is a young pretty girl, I just asked them if they are looking for customers or boyfriends? In the last 30 seconds this happened, and most of the young ones from Pattaya are looking for customers. And they don't seem to get offended and answer right away. I don't ask the older ones that.[/QUOTE]No kidding. There are thousands of ladies in Pattaya looking for customers.
Either you are here, or you are not. If you aren't not here, the ladies have no use for you. If you are here, and can not find a lady, I am so sorry for you.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2564828]I bought some drinks for 3 ladies tonight. Unfortunately, they got a bit rambunctious, and I ended up with the ladies trying to push their vaginas in my face. It might seem like fun, but 3 ladies are stronger than me, and it got a bit scary.[/QUOTE]Maybe not 100% ladies. I got to believe all the Sweet Hot ones left Pattaya.
Nothing but Cheap Charlie's left.
[URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1218916-pattaya-city-faces-permanent-tourism-destruction-if-enough-vaccine-cant-be-found/[/URL]
Patters facing wipeout.
[QUOTE=Berrys66;2565103][URL]https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1218916-pattaya-city-faces-permanent-tourism-destruction-if-enough-vaccine-cant-be-found/[/URL]
Patters facing wipeout.[/QUOTE]They got plenty of time to figure it out. 4 months until their quarantine free reopening. Phuket was able to vaccinate almost 60% after 2 months.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2565056]Maybe not 100% ladies. I got to believe all the Sweet Hot ones left Pattaya. Nothing but Cheap Charlie's left.[/QUOTE]In the land of the poor and dire, the Cheap Charlie is king. If they always had to be hookers to survive as many say, then they are just going back home to die? Or are they staying to get what they can from whoever they can in order to keep surviving?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2565241]In the land of the poor and dire, the Cheap Charlie is king. If they always had to be hookers to survive as many say, then they are just going back home to die? Or are they staying to get what they can from whoever they can in order to keep surviving?[/QUOTE]Or there is the third option where they (the hotties) have left the game because they now have chumps to sponsor them, personally I know of 2 (better looking) ex soi 6 girls who now have western boyfriend who sponsor them, don't know if the boyfriends are currently in country or not. (Source Facebook posts).
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2565237]They got plenty of time to figure it out. 4 months until their quarantine free reopening. Phuket was able to vaccinate almost 60% after 2 months.[/QUOTE]I believe Phuket population is very small compared to Pattaya. Isn't there only 80,000 people in Phuket? That's less than the capacity of Wembley Staduim! They're also concentrating on Phuket to open the Sandbox. The girls I know in Pattaya haven't even been given the option to vaccinate.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565285]I believe Phuket population is very small compared to Pattaya. Isn't there only 80,000 people in Phuket?[/QUOTE]No, Phuket is a decent size island and it is packed with people. Google says 416,000 people in Phuket in 2019 and 120,000 in Pattaya. Just driving Phuket from airport to Patong gives a feel for how large and densely populated it is.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2564613]TFMI is for mongering. It contains links to TF profiles (possibly multiple) of confirmed freelancers, based on session reports from mongers on the relevant Pattaya forum (members only).
TF is just a plain old dating site, and filtering out freelancers is tedious and hit and miss (even in Pattaya sometimes). TFMI makes finding freelancers on TF 10 times easier and more efficient.[/QUOTE]Regarding TFMI, would appreciate some help. What are the filter choices circled in red. Some are pretty obvious, but a lot I am clueless about, and I cannot find a key or legend.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;2565307]Regarding TFMI, would appreciate some help. What are the filter choices circled in red. Some are pretty obvious, but a lot I am clueless about, and I cannot find a key or legend.[/QUOTE]Click that "User Guide" button in "Help / Settings" panel (shown in your screenshot). It explains all of that and more.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2565241]In the land of the poor and dire, the Cheap Charlie is king. If they always had to be hookers to survive as many say, then they are just going back home to die? Or are they staying to get what they can from whoever they can in order to keep surviving?[/QUOTE]There is no simple answer to the question of what happened to the ladies in Pattaya. The top 5% of gogo dancers and Soi 6 ladies are probably staying with their Thai boyfriends while their idiot sponsors send them money. Vast numbers left Pattaya to go back to the village. There are still lots of ladies scrounging for customers where there is foot traffic, like Soi Buakhow.
And yes, there are plenty of impoverished Farangs getting by in Pattaya, without enough baht to have a full time Thai lady staying with them.
On a personal note, I sent my full time Thai lady packing the other day, so I am enjoying the single life. Except that her twin sister wants to take her place, despite having a Thai boyfriend. Since I don't want to die, I can't barfine anyone that my ex knows. I don't know if she would mind if I went with her sister, that's keeping it in the family.
My next project is going to visit some place in Thailand that is relatively virus free, but doesn't require me to do a 2 week quarantine if I visit.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2565309]Click that "User Guide" button in "Help / Settings" panel (shown in your screenshot). It explains all of that and more.[/QUOTE]I get a "no permissions" message.
[QUOTE=Ebauche;2565320]I get a "no permissions" message.[/QUOTE]That's because you are not a senior member of Pattaya addicts. Basically I don't know why so many guys are getting excited about this. To summaries my my thought on this are, refine the search to ladies who are active, under 30 yrs old and under 55 kg nets a total of 3 pages, in that I would find 3-4 who I would find acceptable nothing that really even amazes me. Out of that 12,6 I recognize as soi 6 girls (ex or current). Most have net negative reports, and the few that have good reports now have onlyfan pages.
But to answer some of your questions #m = massage #A = anal #3 is level of "goodness" #PO =post op #LB = ladyboy etc etc.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2565329]Basically I don't know why so many guys are getting excited about this. [/QUOTE]I checked out TFMI for about 5 minutes the other day. Recognized some faces on the site. Actually found a review of one of my favorite gogo girls from Palace linked to Addicts through TFMI. One of the busiest and most popular girls from Palace. Took me 5 minutes to find a review of her on Addicts and I have never seen her name mentioned once on this site since she started working in late 2017. Then again, names are rarely mentioned on this board, rather extremely vague information just like it's made up.
I wandered around Soi Buakhow last night in a drunken stupor, looking for something resembling an open bar, with no luck. I did see some open restaurants, but I didn't inspect them to make sure there weren't selling alcohol.
There were a handful of female looking humans on the street, looking for customers.
I did see small groups of Thais sitting in front of closed bars, apparently drinking together. The shame!
There were also some female looking humans on Soi Chaiyapoon, sitting in front of closed massage shops.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2565244]Or there is the third option where they (the hotties) have left the game because they now have chumps to sponsor them, personally I know of 2 (better looking) ex soi 6 girls who now have western boyfriend who sponsor them, don't know if the boyfriends are currently in country or not. (Source Facebook posts).[/QUOTE]Sponsors have always been there, even before the internet. It is not relevant if the girl is one of the few top soi6 or some of the best girl in oilies or gogos.
Even if these ones don't come back in the game (which is not a given), the fact that they show off on social media is a good advertisement for other younger and new girls to come and replace them.
A lot of girls cannot have a proper job and will try to follow their path.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565285]The girls I know in Pattaya haven't even been given the option to vaccinate.[/QUOTE]I have daily contact with 4 Thai girls and about weekly contact with another 8. Only 3 are P4P girls. So far one has been fully vaccinated, a hospital worker. Another has had her first vaccination, which she got because she is now a live-in housekeeper for a very wealthy family. Two of the remaining 10 have good finances and are looking into vaccine. The other 8 are poor and have no hope of getting vaccine soon.
It's going to be a long time before bar girls will have access to vaccine. Perhaps not as long for sandbox locations.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2565396]I wandered around Soi Buakhow last night in a drunken stupor, looking for something resembling an open bar, with no luck. I did see some open restaurants, but I didn't inspect them to make sure there weren't selling alcohol.
There were a handful of female looking humans on the street, looking for customers.
I did see small groups of Thais sitting in front of closed bars, apparently drinking together. The shame!
There were also some female looking humans on Soi Chaiyapoon, sitting in front of closed massage shops.[/QUOTE]This jives with what I see on YouTube.
Utter devastation.
What planet are you on if you are telling us Pattaya is still a Happening place.
Hot chicks at Cheap Charles's prices.
Come on man.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2565536]I have daily contact with 4 Thai girls and about weekly contact with another 8. Only 3 are P4P girls. So far one has been fully vaccinated, a hospital worker. Another has had her first vaccination, which she got because she is now a live-in housekeeper for a very wealthy family. Two of the remaining 10 have good finances and are looking into vaccine. The other 8 are poor and have no hope of getting vaccine soon.
It's going to be a long time before bar girls will have access to vaccine. Perhaps not as long for sandbox locations.[/QUOTE]I thought vaccines will be free. Why do the poor have no hope of getting the vaccine soon?
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2565571]I thought vaccines will be free. Why do the poor have no hope of getting the vaccine soon?[/QUOTE]That is an interesting question, especially since the only vaccinated non-hospital worker known to me is well connected to wealth. One of the two who is pursuing the vaccine is expecting to pay for the vaccine, but I have no idea how much money she expects to pay. Maybe eventually free at few localized government hospitals but available sooner for money at widespread private hospitals, just a guess.
Someone posted that 60% are vaccinated in Phuket. I can't imagine that 60% of Phuket people paid for vaccine.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2565571]I thought vaccines will be free. Why do the poor have no hope of getting the vaccine soon?[/QUOTE]Just speculations on hearsay.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565356]names are rarely mentioned on this board, rather extremely vague information just like it's made up.[/QUOTE]
Once upon a time, when it came to Thai girl scene, it was almost pointless to mention names. Just go to a specific place, know the going rates and you'll find dozens of suitable girls. No point trying to chase down a specific girl and probably failing due to various factors (gone upcountry, shacked up with a regular punter for a week and so on). Not to mention that girls go by various names, my Noi might have been your Porn and so on.
Oh, how times have changed. Even before Covid, the scene was wearing so thin that looking for a specific girl was actually worthwhile. TFMI is a great solution for desperate times, but I do long for the golden days when they were not needed.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2565552]This jives with what I see on YouTube.
Utter devastation.
What planet are you on if you are telling us Pattaya is still a Happening place.
Hot chicks at Cheap Charles's prices.
Come on man.[/QUOTE]I dunno, I was with 3 ladies last night, all naked. The next guy had 2 ladies giving him a BJ.
I think 4 are coming to my place tonight for some serious drinking.
I was stumbling around last night, and got an offer for a massage, which I accepted. After I was naked on the massage bed, I realized that I had not done the ladyboy check. Fortunately she was female, gave me a decent massage, and then a BJ.
Loads of women here in Pattaya.
Under normal circumstances, Pattaya is filled with 2 week millionaires and the regulars get lost in that crowd. In December, most ladies are booked up with idiots in Pattaya who are proposing marriage, offering to be sponsors, and throwing money at them. Now, those idiots are gone, and the ladies are hungry for customers.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2565634]
Oh, how times have changed. Even before Covid, the scene was wearing so thin that looking for a specific girl was actually worthwhile...[/QUOTE]Indeed. Another sign that the scene has been wearing thin: when you compare notes with another punter about online girls and freelances, you are surprised to find out you have 2 out of 5 girls in common without ever having exchanged girls contacts.
Later this year, the bars will be open again, and thousands of ladies will be working in Pattaya. And yet, the old timers will post about the Good Old Days. Because among the thousands of ladies, none appeal to the Old Timers.
If you can't find a doable lady among thousands, it's not them, it's you.
[QUOTE=XXL;2565706]Indeed. Another sign that the scene has been wearing thin: when you compare notes with another punter about online girls and freelances, you are surprised to find out you have 2 out of 5 girls in common without ever having exchanged girls contacts.[/QUOTE]Going back a few years, I somehow connected on Facebook with a young lady still in Isaan who was planning to work in Pattaya. When she came into town, I hooked up with her, and barfined her a couple of times after she was of legal age. For some reason, she didn't want to use a condom. And, she didn't want to do anything but fuck. Since she was working on Soi 6, that was probably a lot of fucking.
After a few months, she announced she was pregnant and went home, never to return. I suspect her plan all along was to have a baby Farang with years of child support. No, I wasn't the father, it was some Australian. She lives off that child support, plus whatever sponsorship she can grift off social media.
I checked her Facebook, and she had a ton of Farangs as friends, lots of them residents of Pattaya. In fact, of the ladies who were my FB friends, invariably their customers were friends with this lady. And this was when Pattaya was busy.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2565571]I thought vaccines will be free. Why do the poor have no hope of getting the vaccine soon?[/QUOTE]Sinovac and Astra Zeneca vaccines will be free but I suspect mRNA vaccines will cost money when they become available. I have offered to pay my favorite girls for the mRNA vaccines when they become available. My guess will be between 2-5k baht per dose. They are aware of the poor efficacy of Sinovac and the risks of AZ and are not interested.
Bit Siri.
HT, I am assuming your girls received Sinovac or AZ vaccines?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565725]
HT, I am assuming your girls received Sinovac or AZ vaccines?[/QUOTE]They both received Sinovac. That may be the worst of all, but it is better than nothing.
Spoke to another "poor girl" who is now trying to get vaccine. She has no idea what to do to get it. She is working in Kanchanaburi with direct contact with Thai tourists. Maybe that will giver her priority.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2565752]They both received Sinovac. That may be the worst of all, but it is better than nothing.
Spoke to another "poor girl" who is now trying to get vaccine. She has no idea what to do to get it. She is working in Kanchanaburi with direct contact with Thai tourists. Maybe that will giver her priority.[/QUOTE]Sadly I think she isn't trying hard enough. Even in Kanchanaburi through the rumor mill, one can find out where to go. Have her contact the nearest government hospital. She can get the Sino as a front line worker as you noted something is better than nothing even with the Sino, as for the AZ due to shortage it is a bit tougher they are rationing AZ with the most populated areas like Bangkok, Chonburi, less infected areas will receive less especially the AZ, production is being ramped up as time goes on this month it is rumor more will be available especially the AZ.
As for other vaccines Pfizer, Moderna even J&J it basically is non-existence they are so far back of the line it is laughable rumor to be at best October. Pass report was once private hospital get their hands on it might charge 1500-3000 baht a jab now it is hinted due to handling cost what I consider normal private hospital Al Carte charges it will range 3000-4000 baht a jab. If it is anything like private hospital charges for simple testing range 3500 baht, they charge you for the swab, the protection cover the nurse wears, her time, gloves it all add ups so get ready if you want a choice.
As I noted, in my post in rants, regardless of the negatives of these vaccines I hope it works even partially to reduce the rate of infection so the government is confident and starts to open up to the world without all the strings attached to get in. The problem majority of Thais are poor and many young / old have an underlying condition they don't even know about because they never go to the Doctor for a physical majority visit when they are hurting bad government hospital rarely do full checkups they just address the condition and send you on your way. So the worse case scenorio is people start dropping like flies? Right now the only problem with AZ / J&J women can obtain clogs if they are on birth control pills? Within the Thais, population the majority who get one of these vaccines will get a clog or stroke, don't understand why the vaccine doesn't protect you for at less 5 years the list of their concerns is laughable I hear it each day and just smile.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2565719]Going back a few years, I somehow connected on Facebook with a young lady still in Isaan who was planning to work in Pattaya. When she came into town, I hooked up with her, and barfined her a couple of times after she was of legal age. For some reason, she didn't want to use a condom. And, she didn't want to do anything but fuck. Since she was working on Soi 6, that was probably a lot of fucking.
After a few months, she announced she was pregnant and went home, never to return. I suspect her plan all along was to have a baby Farang with years of child support....[/QUOTE]I suspect if she was impregnated by a cheap Charlie she would have targeted a well to do bloke for paternal responsibilities. You can't blame these babes, its called survival.
I contracted with 4 ladies to come to my condo - 1000 baht to come over, and 50 baht for each shot of tequila they drank, over and above whatever Sangsom they drank. Oh, and after 4 shots they had to get naked.
After a couple of hours, it was a free for all, 4 drunk naked ladies trying to get on top of each other, all on my sofa, a good time was had by all.
Until one of the ladies hit her limit and had to worship the porcelain goddess. Unfortunately she didn't do so quietly. It got so bad that the ladies had to call their boyfriends to extract her. And that's how the night ended.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2565859]I contracted with 4 ladies to come to my condo - 1000 baht to come over, and 50 baht for each shot of tequila they drank, over and above whatever Sangsom they drank. Oh, and after 4 shots they had to get naked.
After a couple of hours, it was a free for all, 4 drunk naked ladies trying to get on top of each other, all on my sofa, a good time was had by all.
Until one of the ladies hit her limit and had to worship the porcelain goddess. Unfortunately she didn't do so quietly. It got so bad that the ladies had to call their boyfriends to extract her. And that's how the night ended.[/QUOTE]Photos Please. Non nude OK.
I want to see What you are getting.
Aren't you concerned about Safety. Thai boyfriends know where the money is.
I'm highly cautious. I wouldn't want any dealings with barfines men.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2565903]Photos Please. Non nude OK.
I want to see What you are getting.
Aren't you concerned about Safety. Thai boyfriends know where the money is.
I'm highly cautious. I wouldn't want any dealings with barfines men.[/QUOTE]Concerning safety, my money is in the bank, not my condo. The boyfriends know if there are any problems, the money flow to their girlfriends stops. And that is the main point for them.
I rotate the ladies for my condo parties, basically they are ladies from closed bars who are still hanging around Pattaya, but don't have a customer that night. So, they look like your basic bar girls that you would see on LiveStream.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2565903]Photos Please. Non nude OK.
I want to see What you are getting.
Aren't you concerned about Safety. Thai boyfriends know where the money is.
I'm highly cautious. I wouldn't want any dealings with barfines men.[/QUOTE]Here is a Messenger photo I took.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2565849]I suspect if she was impregnated by a cheap Charlie she would have targeted a well to do bloke for paternal responsibilities. You can't blame these babes, its called survival.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that the purported father was a young guy from Australia, a country that enforces child support payments.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566014]My understanding is that the purported father was a young guy from Australia, a country that enforces child support payments.[/QUOTE]One of my February 2020 bar girls had with her a 2 year old son who was born in Australia. She said "Australian men make the best fathers. They pay good." She claimed the father sent 3000 THB per month, which was not enough and forced her to be a bar girl to make ends meet. I didn't know how much to believe, but your statement makes my experience more believable.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2565725]Sinovac and Astra Zeneca vaccines will be free but I suspect mRNA vaccines will cost money when they become available. I have offered to pay my favorite girls for the mRNA vaccines when they become available. My guess will be between 2-5k baht per dose. They are aware of the poor efficacy of Sinovac and the risks of AZ and are not interested.
Bit Siri.
HT, I am assuming your girls received Sinovac or AZ vaccines?[/QUOTE]The mRNA price has been set at 3000 for the 2 shots. Apparently the government and private hospital associations agreed on the price. I think insurance I included in the deal. It has been repeated several times on Bangkok post and thaiger. So I guess as accurate as anything in Thailand. Availability late 3rd or early 4th quarter of this year.
[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2566115]The mRNA price has been set at 3000 for the 2 shots. Apparently the government and private hospital associations agreed on the price. I think insurance I included in the deal. It has been repeated several times on Bangkok post and thaiger. So I guess as accurate as anything in Thailand. Availability late 3rd or early 4th quarter of this year.[/QUOTE]If the Thai government wised up, they'd open the country to vaccinated foreigners now. With that done, there would be plenty of "sponsors" on hand to help the girls get vaccinated more quickly. IMHO.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2566280]If the Thai government wised up, they'd open the country to vaccinated foreigners now. With that done, there would be plenty of "sponsors" on hand to help the girls get vaccinated more quickly. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Dan the Man Youtube videos are depressing. Even Thais aren't out and about.
About vaccine I can walk in Waikiki store and get it done. Why Thailand makes things so difficult is hard to comprehend.
You can still be corrupt and get things done.
Corruption needs economic activity. Hahaha.
Saturday night on Soi Buakhow. Everything except some restaurants closed, but some had doors open with dim lights. I spent some time alone with a MILF who works in a factory in Laem Chabang, she drove down for a few hours, and then walked around after she left.
Plenty of massage ladies looking for customers, sitting in front of closed salons.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2566280]If the Thai government wised up, they'd open the country to vaccinated foreigners now. With that done, there would be plenty of "sponsors" on hand to help the girls get vaccinated more quickly. IMHO.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I think it will happen over the next few months.
They are saying that Phuket will open to international vaccinated (fully vaccinated for at least 2 weeks) visitors without quarantine in July. Apparently you have to stay in Phuket for 14 days, then can move off the island and travel / stay throughout the rest of Thailand. This is apparently the test box for the rest of Thailand and if successful they will move to other areas.
At the moment, my M. O. Is to hook up with some ladies, buy them drinks, get them naked, engage in mutual masturbation for a while, and then head out for a stress relieving massage. Don't worry, I will be having ladies over to spend the night at my place soon. Where I buy my drinks, it's a pretty small discrete place, but the ladies aren't discrete, while I am getting groped, the guy next to me is getting a double BJ from two young ladies.
My first rule is not to take anything seriously from a bar girl. My circle of ladies is fairly small, and I know which of the ladies has a boyfriend, which has a Tom, or which are too poor to have a partner. They know I know, as well, but that doesn't stop them from engaging in the classic "you my boyfriend " routine, even though I know their boyfriends.
I cut my teeth in Pattaya on Soi 6, where I once barfined a lady who warned me that she needed some time to text her boyfriend. It turned to be 2 different boyfriends, wannabe husbands, she told them both how much she missed them, and that she would wait for them. And then I fucked her.
Nothing is real in Pattaya.
If you are wondering why I am not doing all nighters with these ladies, if I have a lady over, she becomes the girlfriend and will bring a suitcase real soon. I have to figure out a clean way to do it without any messes.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566343]I spent some time alone with a MILF who works in a factory in Laem Chabang, she drove down for a few hours, and then walked around after she left.[/QUOTE]I guess people change?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2548449]I am always entertained by guys posting on monger boards about their civvie conquests. Apart from credibility issues, such posts are not appropriate here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2520881]I am in quarantine at the moment.
I will give a report after I get out. But I won't be using ThaiFriendly or any of the dating sites. And, no, I won't be pursuing any freebies like the nonsense being posted here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2548444]Here I should post a warning. Trying to hook up with a civvie in Pattaya is fraught with danger.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2566534]I guess people change?[/QUOTE]The MILF from Laem Chabang was not really a civvie, she was a former bargirl, who I paid to come down to Pattaya. Not a civvie encounter, and not a freebie. I can’t afford freebies.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566657]The MILF from Laem Chabang was not really a civvie, she was a former bargirl, who I paid to come down to Pattaya. Not a civvie encounter, and not a freebie. I cant afford freebies.[/QUOTE]There's always more to story, s that make little sense.
I don't know many girls who work Factory who would drive hours for Hot Lovin.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2566871]There's always more to story, s that make little sense.
I don't know many girls who work Factory who would drive hours for Hot Lovin.[/QUOTE]I can see Laem Chabang from my condo. It's a 30 minute drive at most. But, there is the boyfriend factor, sometimes she can't get away.
I had a lady pull the reverse key trick last night.
Normally, the key trick is when you barfine a lady Long Time, and she informs you at midnight that her roommate called to say she lost her key, so your barfine has to open the door for her. There are solutions you can use, but my point is that it's an old trick in Pattaya to turn a Long Time into a Short Time.
Last night, I had a lady text me that she didn't have a key to her room, and needed a place to sleep. So I got a knock on my door late at night.
For some context, times are really hard in Pattaya so the ladies are doing anything they can to secure a "boyfriend" to tide them over until the bars open. That means some scheduling issues for me, so drop-ins are not welcome. But, I let her in. It's morning now, and I am hoping she leaves soon, as I have a scheduled lady coming over soon.
Which leads me to my next problem. I asked today's lady to bring a friend (from her bar), but I have the feeling she is going to forget the friend.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566998]Which leads me to my next problem. I asked today's lady to bring a friend (from her bar), but I have the feeling she is going to forget the friend.[/QUOTE]That's what I would call a quality problem.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566998]Last night, I had a lady text me that she didn't have a key to her room, and needed a place to sleep. So I got a knock on my door late at night.
For some context, times are really hard in Pattaya so the ladies are doing anything they can to secure a "boyfriend" to tide them over until the bars open. That means some scheduling issues for me, so drop-ins are not welcome. But, I let her in. It's morning now, and I am hoping she leaves soon[/QUOTE]Stuff like this happens all the time if you are using your own condo to see girls. It's not a post-COVID thing. Girls just pop up out of nowhere unannounced. Had my Thermae Bangkok girl show up at my place after 3 am. Would have been fine but I was pulling up on the back of a motorbike with my Sensations gogo girl after the gogo bar closed. I didn't have to but I paid the Sensations girl the entire amount we agreed to and she went home. I didn't pay the Thermae girl because I didn't invite her so that was a Freebie. However, I know you are deftly against Freebies so, did you pay the girl for her LT or was that a Freebie?
There are massive industrial areas scattered around Pattaya (Siracha / LaemChabang, PluakDaeng and Rayong / Maptaphut) within half an hour driving, with thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of women working. Some with families sure, but many alone too. Believe or not, they are not that different from ladies in our home countries, they are interested in guys too and they are not hookers. And some are literally starved for sex. Some actually earning fairly OK, and don't ask money (just expect guy to pick the tab when eating out).
I tested this market few months ago, and it certainly exists. Takes a bit time and effort, and have some latency as they have a normal job and can not come in 15 min like an FL in Pattaya.
But as E8939 said, it may or may not be something you can afford. I put it on hold after few cases as I felt I can not 'afford' it, too exhausting. After couple of dates some ladies got really sticky. One (that wanted me as her BF) is still harrassing me, last week one night she sent a line message telling she is outside my home and would like to come by. And I had a regular FL with me so no way.
I do not want to loose my freedom, at least not for now, and don't want to enter into a relationship BF / GF problems. So be careful what you ask for when looking freebies, especially repeat freebies!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566657]The MILF from Laem Chabang was not really a civvie, she was a former bargirl, who I paid to come down to Pattaya. Not a civvie encounter, and not a freebie. I cant afford freebies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2566871]There's always more to story, s that make little sense.
I don't know many girls who work Factory who would drive hours for Hot Lovin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2566941]I can see Laem Chabang from my condo. It's a 30 minute drive at most. But, there is the boyfriend factor, sometimes she can't get away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2567052]I do not want to loose my freedom, at least not for now, and don't want to enter into a relationship BF / GF problems. So be careful what you ask for when looking freebies, especially repeat freebies![/QUOTE]Lose freedom? BF / GF problems? This kind of stuff happens by not establishing the parameters of the relationship. Each other is assuming the relationship will be a certain kind of way, but nobody is bringing forth or asking for any clarity. You have to sit down and each person express what they expect, want, can not deal with, will continue to do, etc. If you have a chick but know you like going to play Parcheesi every Thursday with your boys then you need to say this is what I do and I am not going to change it. Sometimes we bury ourselves by not communicating and miscommunicating. You do not know what the person is fine with if you never discuss it.
Yes absolutely true.
My point was just to say that freebies / normal girls are around if look a bit outside, but may not always be affordable to everybody in one way or another, just typing my own thoughts too much 555.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2567088]Lose freedom? BF / GF problems? This kind of stuff happens by not establishing the parameters of the relationship. Each other is assuming the relationship will be a certain kind of way, but nobody is bringing forth or asking for any clarity. You have to sit down and each person express what they expect, want, can not deal with, will continue to do, etc. If you have a chick but know you like going to play Parcheesi every Thursday with your boys then you need to say this is what I do and I am not going to change it. Sometimes we bury ourselves by not communicating and miscommunicating. You do not know what the person is fine with if you never discuss it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fmojo;2567001]That's what I would call a quality problem.[/QUOTE]I had specifically requested the friend, and she did show up.
After a couple of hours, I had 2 drunk naked ladies in my condo. The sample size is only 2, but I suspect that the results will be the same, regardless of the number of ladies that come over. One suddenly got mao, and camped out in my shower throwing up. The other made the " I'm your girlfriend " tactic, taking advantage of the absence of the other lady. I indulged her until her Thai boyfriend showed up to pick her up.
Well, tomorrow I have a solo date, I barfined a lady longtime, so I can just fuck with no complications.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567007]Stuff like this happens all the time if you are using your own condo to see girls. It's not a post-COVID thing. Girls just pop up out of nowhere unannounced. Had my Thermae Bangkok girl show up at my place after 3 am. Would have been fine but I was pulling up on the back of a motorbike with my Sensations gogo girl after the gogo bar closed. I didn't have to but I paid the Sensations girl the entire amount we agreed to and she went home. I didn't pay the Thermae girl because I didn't invite her so that was a Freebie. However, I know you are deftly against Freebies so, did you pay the girl for her LT or was that a Freebie?[/QUOTE]
I have security at my condo, so ladies can’t access my condo without a key.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567007]Stuff like this happens all the time if you are using your own condo to see girls. It's not a post-COVID thing. Girls just pop up out of nowhere unannounced. Had my Thermae Bangkok girl show up at my place after 3 am. Would have been fine but I was pulling up on the back of a motorbike with my Sensations gogo girl after the gogo bar closed. I didn't have to but I paid the Sensations girl the entire amount we agreed to and she went home. I didn't pay the Thermae girl because I didn't invite her so that was a Freebie. However, I know you are deftly against Freebies so, did you pay the girl for her LT or was that a Freebie?[/QUOTE]The lady who showed up last night slept on the sofa, but I agreed to barfine her LT tomorrow night. I splurged and rented a room at the Hilton, so she doesn't spend the night in my bed in my condo.
It happens her twin sister was at my condo tonight, so I could do some research on the reaction of twins on pussy eating. The twin has a Thai boyfriend, so that is a strictly paid relationship, at least as far as I am concerned. Except I am taking her to Chiang Mai next week.
Thursday night, I have 2 different ladies coming, and on Friday, a different set. Then I rotate back to tonight's ladies on Saturday.
So what does an average Factory worker girl look like.
To a few of us it Matters. Haha.
My education of a guess, like the avg Construction worker in Bangkok.
They may know how to lay tile or plaster a wall but for God sake I don't want to see them Nude.
Now many a Bangkok Bank employee I've wondered what they look like Naked. What it would be like to Cuddle. Haha.
I can't be the only one who pays for looks. Or am I?
Baccarat is highly irksome.
Highly successful yet leaves tons of baht on the table. I doubt they would lose Asians if they raised drink prices by a dollar.
Look how much they could donate to Thai Red Cross.
Now those hole in the wall places should drop prices by 50%. See what happens.
I doubt much unless they get more decent looking girls.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567172]So what does an average Factory worker girl look like.
To a few of us it Matters. Haha.
My education of a guess, like the avg Construction worker in Bangkok.
They may know how to lay tile or plaster a wall but for God sake I don't want to see them Nude.
Now many a Bangkok Bank employee I've wondered what they look like Naked. What it would be like to Cuddle. Haha.
I can't be the only one who pays for looks. Or am I?[/QUOTE]I don't know about the average factory girl, but many bargirls previously worked in factory jobs.
Last night's pair did not end well, when one of them got too drunk and passed out in the shower. The other lady was not too happy, and will come back with a different lady next time.
The drunk lady slept on my sofa, and wasn't too bad in the morning. She is scheduled to come back on Sunday with a different lady.
The point of all of this is to avoid selecting ladies from Thai Friendly or going to Soi Buakhow to pick up a lady, easier if they come to my place.
Oh, yes, I forgot about ladies marking their territory. Almost every lady that comes over leaves something. It could be underwear, or other personal item, but most do it.
Leaving somethin behind allows them to call you and be at your place although uninvited. If you do this impromptu you will always end up with a girl with terrific service and great attitude. And because no financials are discussed you get much more than expected as all are in a jolly mood. Keep it going my friend keep it flowing, and do upload some pics if possible. Allow us some fun albeit from a distance.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2567403]Last night's pair did not end well, when one of them got too drunk and passed out in the shower. The other lady was not too happy, and will come back with a different lady next time.
The drunk lady slept on my sofa, and wasn't too bad in the morning. She is scheduled to come back on Sunday with a different lady.
The point of all of this is to avoid selecting ladies from Thai Friendly or going to Soi Buakhow to pick up a lady, easier if they come to my place.
Oh, yes, I forgot about ladies marking their territory. Almost every lady that comes over leaves something. It could be underwear, or other personal item, but most do it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2567403]Last night's pair did not end well, when one of them got too drunk and passed out in the shower. The other lady was not too happy, and will come back with a different lady next time.
The drunk lady slept on my sofa, and wasn't too bad in the morning. She is scheduled to come back on Sunday with a different lady.
The point of all of this is to avoid selecting ladies from Thai Friendly or going to Soi Buakhow to pick up a lady, easier if they come to my place.[/QUOTE]Seems like the point would more so be to not keep getting them drunk everyday.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2567007]Stuff like this happens all the time if you are using your own condo to see girls. It's not a post-COVID thing. Girls just pop up out of nowhere unannounced. Had my Thermae Bangkok girl show up at my place after 3 am. Would have been fine but I was pulling up on the back of a motorbike with my Sensations gogo girl after the gogo bar closed. I didn't have to but I paid the Sensations girl the entire amount we agreed to and she went home. I didn't pay the Thermae girl because I didn't invite her so that was a Freebie. However, I know you are deftly against Freebies so, did you pay the girl for her LT or was that a Freebie?[/QUOTE]Technically you didn't pay the Therme girl to stay but you paid another girl not to come into the condo. So regardless who got the money and who granted service, the night still costed money. You had a fair and balanced attitude towards both, indeed, avoiding clashes, flames. Chapeau. I'd done the same.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2567457]Seems like the point would more so be to not keep getting them drunk everyday.[/QUOTE]Especially strange girls with Boyfriends. Hope his condo is on the 2nd floor.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567172]So what does an average Factory worker girl look like....[/QUOTE]Like a bargirl without makeup.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2567636]Like a bargirl without makeup.[/QUOTE]I laughed so hard!
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567596]Especially strange girls with Boyfriends. Hope his condo is on the 2nd floor.[/QUOTE]LOL. That is fucked up, but true.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2567410]Leaving somethin behind allows them to call you and be at your place although uninvited. If you do this impromptu you will always end up with a girl with terrific service and great attitude. And because no financials are discussed you get much more than expected as all are in a jolly mood. Keep it going my friend keep it flowing, and do upload some pics if possible. Allow us some fun albeit from a distance.[/QUOTE]I can't afford free sex.
And I don't allow them to show up uninvited.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2567457]Seems like the point would more so be to not keep getting them drunk everyday.[/QUOTE]Each lady has a different tolerance of alcohol, and reacts differently. So I know the limits of each lady, and can manage them appropriately in the future.
The last lady was naked and really hot, and then suddenly in the toilet with almost no warning. Next time, I will slow her down after a few drinks.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567596]Especially strange girls with Boyfriends. Hope his condo is on the 2nd floor.[/QUOTE]Boyfriends in Pattaya don't act like you expect. The lady is their meal ticket, if they don't go with customers, there is no money. As long as I am just a customer, there is no problem. However, if the lady were to camp out at my condo and not go home for a few days, there might be a problem. Or not.
Remember also that almost every lady has a Thai boyfriend or Tom, even if they deny it.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2567698]if the lady were to camp out at my condo and not go home for a few days, there might be a problem. Or not.[/QUOTE]There will not be a problem as long as she is being paid for her time. If you kept her for a week and stiffed her you will likely see a few Thai guys greet you with their machetes. Thai guys use the time their girlfriends are away/working to go cheat on their girlfriends. It's a nice life they have.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2567698]Boyfriends in Pattaya don't act like you expect. The lady is their meal ticket, if they don't go with customers, there is no money. As long as I am just a customer, there is no problem. However, if the lady were to camp out at my condo and not go home for a few days, there might be a problem. Or not.
Remember also that almost every lady has a Thai boyfriend or Tom, even if they deny it.[/QUOTE]I get it it's a Business transaction.
But when you add alcohol and narcotics (have to assume YabbDabba Doo use by boy or his friends is not out of the question, all bets are off.
Let's hear from Big Man Little. What he would advise his cousin from LA if he were to get involved into something similar.
Can you please explain 'I can't afford free sex' what does that mean, is it more expensive than paid, do you mean that. I concur then.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2567694]I can't afford free sex.
And I don't allow them to show up uninvited.[/QUOTE]
Livestream are in turmoil. LOL.
Last week Desire and Lust moved shops. From their respective Bars to what looks like a residential house.
Last night during Stream Nana the host say we have problem see you later.
Are they in arrears on their government business fees or What.
Can someone do some investigation and report Back.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2567863]Livestream are in turmoil. LOL.
Last week Desire and Lust moved shops. From their respective Bars to what looks like a residential house.
Last night during Stream Nana the host say we have problem see you later.
Are they in arrears on their government business fees or What.
Can someone do some investigation and report Back.[/QUOTE]If there are too many ladies doing a Livestream, it could violate regulations concerning gatherings of people drinking alcohol. Since the videos can be seen by the police, having them in an identifiable location is asking for trouble. Better to be discrete. Also cut back on the number of ladies.
Do the police actually raid the Livestreams?
Yes.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2567911]If there are too many ladies doing a Livestream, it could violate regulations concerning gatherings of people drinking alcohol. Since the videos can be seen by the police, having them in an identifiable location is asking for trouble. Better to be discrete. Also cut back on the number of ladies.
Do the police actually raid the Livestreams?
Yes.[/QUOTE]I wonder if 30% of Gross receipts given to proper authorities would Fix the issue.
Haven't seen Bimint for a week. Lots of us are missing her.
She could carry half a live stream by herself, about 6 hours of a twelve hour gig.
Because of Covid restrictions, I only have 2 ladies come to my condo for drinking at a time. Last night, I had a set of ladies who got drunk, got naked, were dancing to Isaan music, having a good time, but when it looked like more drinking would lead to them passing out, I ended the night. It turns out that they went to a friend's house and drank until 3 am.
Police put their foot down on Nightwish Group according to a girl who just left my room.
[QUOTE=XXL;2568359]Police put their foot down on Nightwish Group according to a girl who just left my room.[/QUOTE]Too successful. Between Desire and Lust I surmise they were pulling in over a $1,000 a day. That's $365,000 a year in come to help lessen the Pain.
I'm sure negotiations are going on to bring them back. Maybe limit 4 girls on camera at a time, at least three feet apart with Masks.
The rumor is the NW girls got the covid. Supposedly new girls were brought in from out of the area. Harsh penalties will be imposed on any bar that livestreams again.
Despite whatever warnings are out there, I saw four different bars live streaming last night.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2568560]The rumor is the NW girls got the covid. Supposedly new girls were brought in from out of the area. Harsh penalties will be imposed on any bar that livestreams again.[/QUOTE]Not funny that they got sick.
But on my favorite. Mods Livestream,. One by one they all had signs of getting sick. The Cough.
I told them in Jest go home and Chill.
They not listen and kept on Streaming.
Very acceptable lookers. Ae and Bimint. No Silicone anywhere in sight. Yummy.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2567768]Can you please explain 'I can't afford free sex' what does that mean, is it more expensive than paid, do you mean that. I concur then.[/QUOTE]Since you gave me a good belly laugh I'll explain what the phrase means. If you are getting "free" sex you are paying for everything else she needs and wants. Most every guy on ISG knows it's cheaper to pay for sex "a la carte". And usually for a younger and better looking one than provides you "free" sex.
Now please don't ask what "a la carte" means LOL.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2568638]Since you gave me a good belly laugh I'll explain what the phrase means. If you are getting "free" sex you are paying for everything else she needs and wants. Most every guy on ISG knows it's cheaper to pay for sex "a la carte". And usually for a younger and better looking one than provides you "free" sex.
Now please don't ask what "a la carte" means LOL.[/QUOTE]Last night I had two ladies in my condo for some drinks, and I got a bit drunk. This morning I realized that I forgot to pay them last night. I transferred money to one lady, but the other lady told me that I paid her last night. Which was weird because I don't know how much she charged, and the money in my cash drawer was untouched.
I have to get to the bottom of this because I don't want free sex.
I buy a Bar for $50,000. I find the right mamasan and start Printing Baht like candy.
Do I need to worry about the Mafia moving in or do I just carry on without a care in the world?
I'm asking because a youtber who has been in Pattaya says no such thing as Mafia in Pattaya.
Kind of like the Mayor saying no Prostitution there either.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2568638]If you are getting "free" sex you are paying for everything else she needs and wants. [/QUOTE]Those are just bitter ramblings.
Plenty of women give away sex for free, albeit perhaps not to you. "Everything else she needs" can sometimes be just sex with a desirable guy. Or hope for a better future, at an unspecified time, that you're not committed to deliver on.
Convenience of paid sex is choice. Not even the chaddest of chads can screw 3 women per day with any regularity (as any Pattaya monger can), or screw a particular woman he wants 20 min after saying Hello,. In addition, a huge benefit is not having to spend time sucking up to a woman, at least to some extent, to get to her pussy. However, it's not always cheaper in terms of money, and some guys are ok with the sucking up time, even actively enjoy it (or so they claim).
[QUOTE=RunMann;2568570]Despite whatever warnings are out there, I saw four different bars live streaming last night.[/QUOTE]One of the bars which wasn't streaming yesterday is now back up, they posted the following:
"All Ladies have had negative Covid tests and live together. No "Alcoholic" Beverages are being served per Thai law.
Streaming from Northern Thailand tonight had to move!
[QUOTE=RunMann;2568570]Despite whatever warnings are out there, I saw four different bars live streaming last night.[/QUOTE]Back Livestreaming. Haha.
Scenario. 15 Provencal Pattaya Mayor's and Bars had a Pow Wow. While Love Letters were being exchanged it was determined the Raids were all a mis-understanding.
Plus Covid is just a Flu. Thais are Strong people so carry on my wayward Friend.
Lots of different scams. A good was was a German who packed his joint with jovial Germans all drinking their livers out. (If you have a bar, you want Germans: drinkers and not problem makers). Mug buys bar, Germans move on to Fritz's next bar scam. Lots of bars are just money laundering scams or to keep the Isaan wife happy. An Ossie tried some heavy stuff a few years ago.
Most bars are losers. If you make a successful bar eg with dwarf throwing hookers, the local police captain will set up beside you with the same deal. Ditto if you sell great German / French etc cuisine.
Not easy to see a sustainable gap in the market.
I've noticed on FB a big boobed Vn lady trying to entice punters. I thought Pinays had that sewn up, good English, cheap etyc.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2568642]I buy a Bar for $50,000. I find the right mamasan and start Printing Baht like candy.
Do I need to worry about the Mafia moving in or do I just carry on without a care in the world?
I'm asking because a youtber who has been in Pattaya says no such thing as Mafia in Pattaya.
Kind of like the Mayor saying no Prostitution there either.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dexter88;2568690]One of the bars which wasn't streaming yesterday is now back up, they posted the following:
"All Ladies have had negative Covid tests and live together. No "Alcoholic" Beverages are being served per Thai law.
[/QUOTE]Two other streams showed the girls drinking shots or pretending to be but one other stream was simply asking for a love gift of 150B for your favourite girl. Hey Duck, here is a bar you can invest in, be sure to let us know how it works out for you.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2568651]Those are just bitter ramblings.
Plenty of women give away sex for free, albeit perhaps not to you. "Everything else she needs" can sometimes be just sex with a desirable guy. Or hope for a better future, at an unspecified time, that you're not committed to deliver on.
Convenience of paid sex is choice. Not even the chaddest of chads can screw 3 women per day with any regularity (as any Pattaya monger can), or screw a particular woman he wants 20 min after saying Hello,. In addition, a huge benefit is not having to spend time sucking up to a woman, at least to some extent, to get to her pussy. However, it's not always cheaper in terms of money, and some guys are ok with the sucking up time, even actively enjoy it (or so they claim).[/QUOTE]You should be putting your last paragraph first IE the huge expenditure of time for "free pussy". IE through the waiting for them to turn up, listening to their whining, helping them with stuff, taking them to dinner etc etc. For someone like me where my hourly value based on actual work is between 3-5 X what it would cost me to ST a lady, in addition to all the other issues, the wastage of time on free pussy is more important than the baht cost of paid pussy.
You should have read my entire question and not just part of it, happens after a certain age I guess. I do agree with you though.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2568638]Since you gave me a good belly laugh I'll explain what the phrase means. If you are getting "free" sex you are paying for everything else she needs and wants. Most every guy on ISG knows it's cheaper to pay for sex "a la carte". And usually for a younger and better looking one than provides you "free" sex.
Now please don't ask what "a la carte" means LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2568875]You should be putting your last paragraph first IE the huge expenditure of time for "free pussy". IE through the waiting for them to turn up, listening to their whining, helping them with stuff, taking them to dinner etc etc. For someone like me where my hourly value based on actual work is between 3-5 X what it would cost me to ST a lady, in addition to all the other issues, the wastage of time on free pussy is more important than the baht cost of paid pussy.[/QUOTE]Methinks Free sex is being wrongly defined when it comes to Pattaya.
Free sex is you go into a Bar. Girl meets you after work, you go Disko and have Sex, end of story. No money given or asked.
You cannot link pseudo (Fake Dating) hook-ups to Free sex.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2569054]Methinks Free sex is being wrongly defined when it comes to Pattaya.
Free sex is you go into a Bar. Girl meets you after work, you go Disko and have Sex, end of story. No money given or asked.
[/QUOTE]What happens when you go back to the same bar and barfine another lady?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2569203]What happens when you go back to the same bar and barfine another lady?[/QUOTE]Does this include the 1000's baht you spend on drinks with the bargirl esp when she brings a few bargirls friends. The closest I get to getting free sex is when other guys take their free sex to discos pay for her and her friends drinks, I hit on the friends after her drinks are paid for by the other guy, then take her home. Then in the morning pass her 1000 baht taxi to settle any possible misunderstandings. The first scenario might be favorable for alcoholics who drink heavily, for me, someone who drinks very little I prefer to pay for my sex.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2569203]What happens when you go back to the same bar and barfine another lady?[/QUOTE]Jealousy does happen.
Early on. Took a massage parlor girl ok face awesome Breasts, be cups. Ok session.
Went back to same place. Took her arch enemy Superstar, uneventful.
Took original girl again as cold a fish as you will ever see. My crime was taking her Enemy. I did not know reason for her Frozen ness.
Maybe 6 months later I see original girl and I take her again. Reasoning I could get my money's worth just playing with her Body. Haha.
She disclose s why the Hate. So silly how was I supposed to know who is with who in her work place.
Saw her a few more time s and then the place closed down.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2569054]Methinks Free sex is being wrongly defined when it comes to Pattaya.
Free sex is you go into a Bar. Girl meets you after work, you go Disko and have Sex, end of story. No money given or asked.
You cannot link pseudo (Fake Dating) hook-ups to Free sex.[/QUOTE]Pure pickup artists wouldn't need Soi 6 or Walking St. Hell they wouldn't need Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Cool;2569286]Pure pickup artists wouldn't need Soi 6 or Walking St. Hell they wouldn't need Thailand.[/QUOTE]Who says they need Thailand? Maybe they just think Thai women are sexy.
Just to break up the monotony, I took 3 bargirl to Chiang Mai for a few days. The place is pretty dead, but Wat Suthep is open.
We pass the nights drinking heavily. Two of the ladies are very close friends, if you know what I mean. After a few drinks, there is naked rolling around on the floor.
Looks like the Big 2, Lust and Desire have lost the it factor. Since moving both streams have become unwatchable. That income I was Crowing about before virtually disappeared now. No money to put in Love Letters to govt.
So as I came in first in a Poker Tournament, about 132 players I perused other streams.
I came across Bella, looks Greek, or Indian, Sicilian. Thaiish. Very good face but kind of flat chested. The Gem she qualifies as. LOL.
Classic bargirl behavior: I am traveling with 3 bargirls, and we want to go to a village nearby for a day trip. They ask me how to schedule the tour. I remind them that they have the business card of a taxi driver we used today. So call them.
After a long call with the driver, I am told we have a tour. I ask what time the taxi driver come. Blank look. Another call.
I ask how many baht. Blank look, another call.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhp-7_p894s[/URL]
Bella of Phoenix Bar Livestream. Don't be shy guys, come on come on buy her Drinkie. Support her.
She might be Indian? Thai.
She isn't flat chested- just Small-big difference. I'm not into flat chest.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2569902]Bella of Phoenix Bar Livestream. <snip> She might be Indian? Thai.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting an url. Why would you think she's not Thai? She's typical Thai. Baccara 2nd floor quality.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2570154]Thanks for posting an url. Why would you think she's not Thai? She's typical Thai. Baccara 2nd floor quality.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]You new job for the site is paying off sleuth, you even made a new friend of someone that was looking like a troll, was it you said or whatever, now besties! LOL oh and asking for a friend what's the whole Bit Siri thing?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2570154]Thanks for posting an url. Why would you think she's not Thai? She's typical Thai. Baccara 2nd floor quality.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]Agree she's very average looking but what I have to laugh at is that DD if I recalled correctly once said that he hated Pattaya and preferred BKK and fools who would send money to girls they met online, IMHO that's not much difference to buying drinks to girls who live streamed.
Koh Larn is open now. Apparently it's a favorite place for the ladies, so I will try an overnight there.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2570177]Agree she's very average looking but what I have to laugh at is that DD if I recalled correctly once said that he hated Pattaya and preferred BKK and fools who would send money to girls they met online, IMHO that's not much difference to buying drinks to girls who live streamed.[/QUOTE]Prefer Bkk over Pattaya by miles and miles, I don't Hate Pattaya.
Bella is avg. Pattaya girl? Come on now. She is top 5 % looker among Bargirls. She might have best Face in Soi Sex.
Don't know if I said sending money to girls you meet online is dumb. But if I did it is Dumb.
Buying a girl a drink online is not equatable. No deceiving going on.
MP seems more of a Troll than me.
Can someone give me an example of something Trollish I said?
Was it the 500 baht hot girl issue. Haha.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570332]Koh Larn is open now. Apparently it's a favorite place for the ladies, so I will try an overnight there.[/QUOTE]Start a YouTube channel. You can monetize your adventures.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2570177]Agree she's very average looking but what I have to laugh at is that DD if I recalled correctly once said that he hated Pattaya and preferred BKK and fools who would send money to girls they met online, IMHO that's not much difference to buying drinks to girls who live streamed.[/QUOTE]Clarify.
Bb thinks Bella is hot. He would have said she isn't just to get on my case. LOL.
Sending money to girls Caming online isn't foolish. You paying for a Service.
Think Netflix.
What's Foolish is Sponsoring a Bargirl. Thinking you are Saving her, etc.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2570372]Prefer Bkk over Pattaya by miles and miles, I don't Hate Pattaya.
Bella is avg. Pattaya girl? Come on now. She is top 5 % looker among Bargirls. She might have best Face in Soi Sex.
Don't know if I said sending money to girls you meet online is dumb. But if I did it is Dumb.
Buying a girl a drink online is not equatable. No deceiving going on.
MP seems more of a Troll than me.
Can someone give me an example of something Trollish I said?
Was it the 500 baht hot girl issue. Haha.[/QUOTE]If you paying for a fill on Alcohol drinks, and them cheering to you with water and cool aid is not deceiving, we must have a different meaning to the word! If your having fun doing it, rock on, but please be advised your being deceived!
[QUOTE=RacShack;2570453]If you paying for a fill on Alcohol drinks, and them cheering to you with water and cool aid is not deceiving, we must have a different meaning to the word! If your having fun doing it, rock on, but please be advised your being deceived![/QUOTE]I prefer them to drink water, up 2 them. I'm not Mr E. Or the other guy who feels the need to stick it to the Bar.
Buzzing Pattaya channel. Camel Toe Pattaya a new owner.
The proud new owner of a Bar looks like the stereotypical beer guzzling Aussie or Brit.
Does not look like a business fella. LOL.
Buys a Bar off the popular areas. Puts in a pool table and lights and expects to Print.
Stop it you nincompoop s. Haha.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2570373]Start a YouTube channel. You can monetize your adventures.[/QUOTE]That sounds like work. I am just reporting from the ground what can be done in Pattaya, given the bars are closed.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2570376]Bb thinks Bella is hot. He would have said she isn't just to get on my case. LOL.
[/QUOTE]Where did I say Bella was hot? Stop putting words in my mouth!
Bit Siri
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2570372]MP seems more of a Troll than me.[/QUOTE]
Everyone is allowed their own opinion of other posters. The biggest difference between you and MP is that MP is actually one of the very few people (not only ISG members) who are actually in Pattaya and has been since COVID began.
Bit Siri
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2570372]MP seems more of a Troll than me.
Can someone give me an example of something Trollish I said?
Was it the 500 baht hot girl issue. Haha.[/QUOTE]
You are extremely passive aggressive in your trolling. You have to read between the lines in your posts.
Bit Siri
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570332]Koh Larn is open now. Apparently it's a favorite place for the ladies, so I will try an overnight there.[/QUOTE]
Don't get in another drunken stupor where you end up thinking one of the monkeys is a short Thai girl.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2569821]Classic bargirl behavior: I am traveling with 3 bargirls, and we want to go to a village nearby for a day trip. They ask me how to schedule the tour. I remind them that they have the business card of a taxi driver we used today. So call them.
After a long call with the driver, I am told we have a tour. I ask what time the taxi driver come. Blank look. Another call.
I ask how many baht. Blank look, another call.[/QUOTE]Are you shocked? Most Thai people are idiots, and its not their fault. Thai education system is abysmal and they are never taught to think for themselves. Bargirls are typically way below average, since most didn't even finish high school, often didn't grow up with parents around, etc etc.
Last night, I had 2 ladies over to my place, and between groping me, one of the ladies talked about 2 of her long time customers. Apparently, they were stuck in Thailand and had run out of money. So, she said she was pitching in to support them.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2570472]I prefer them to drink water, up 2 them. I'm not Mr E. Or the other guy who feels the need to stick it to the Bar.
Buzzing Pattaya channel. Camel Toe Pattaya a new owner.
The proud new owner of a Bar looks like the stereotypical beer guzzling Aussie or Brit.
Does not look like a business fella. LOL.
Buys a Bar off the popular areas. Puts in a pool table and lights and expects to Print.
Stop it you nincompoop s. Haha.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, Camel Toe is technically a restaurant so it can open soon.
[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2570516]Are you shocked? Most Thai people are idiots, and its not their fault. Thai education system is abysmal and they are never taught to think for themselves. Bargirls are typically way below average, since most didn't even finish high school, often didn't grow up with parents around, etc etc.[/QUOTE]I'll tell you what's happening. They really aren't interested in what this guy is selling. They just want to get paid.
Same thing happens with Korean Thai Puchai. Some girls like his Schtick other girls not so much.
I will stick up for Bargirls. Not the Scammers. If they are idiots why are you flying 1,000's of miles to be with them.
Please enlighten me.
[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2570516], Bargirls are typically way below average, since most didn't even finish high school, often didn't grow up with parents around, etc etc.[/QUOTE]And yet, these uneducated below average bar girls can get educated men who did finish more than high school to send them money, take them to their country and in some cases marry them before they take all the educated man's money. LOL.
I get how bars get their girls. Mommas being big sources, agents, etc. Freeloaders off signs. Whatever.
Now say Camel Toe owner sees Bella and has to have her. Offers her $750 salary just to show up. She says Hello, Bald Head ugly man I'm yours.
Does he have to live in Fear or will nobody care, it's just bad business. Paying above normal to a Bargirl nobody wins.
[QUOTE=RunMann;2570545]And yet, these uneducated below average bar girls can get educated men who did finish more than high school to send them money, take them to their country and in some cases marry them before they take all the educated man's money. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah there's little correlation between book smarts and being streetwise (common sense).
I work in an admin role doing recruitment for high paying government jobs and some of the questions we get off the candidates with top degrees is scary.
About looks of Pattaya Bargirls etc.
There's a theory those that are servicing us in tourist hotspots are the Leftovers, those that the general s, politicians, elite don't want.
Do you subscribe?
I certainly do.
You think avg Thai man would be caught red handed with a Beer Bar Dark Skin Rotund Old Smelly Barmaid that so many here Love.
I have a long term barfine who I cut off a few weeks ago. Of course, she is constantly messaging me asking to come back. Mai pen rai. The wrinkle is her twin sister is in a bit of a jam. Although she doesn't like to fuck and she looks for men who can't fuck, she now has a Thai boyfriend who had an accident and is not capable of an erection. And now she claims that her story is she wants to fuck once in a while, the thought of never fucking again scares her, but she wants to keep the boyfriend. So, she thinks that fucking a Farang is not really cheating, and wants to fuck every once in a while. Meanwhile, she grabs my dick every chance she gets. I used to barfine her before I hooked up with her sister, so we have been together many times in the past.
I am wondering if I can pull off a double on an extended basis and live to tell about it, ie have a live in lady and her sister on the side.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570834]I have a long term barfine who I cut off a few weeks ago. Of course, she is constantly messaging me asking to come back. Mai pen rai. The wrinkle is her twin sister is in a bit of a jam. Although she doesn't like to fuck and she looks for men who can't fuck, she now has a Thai boyfriend who had an accident and is not capable of an erection. And now she claims that her story is she wants to fuck once in a while, the thought of never fucking again scares her, but she wants to keep the boyfriend. So, she thinks that fucking a Farang is not really cheating, and wants to fuck every once in a while. Meanwhile, she grabs my dick every chance she gets. I used to barfine her before I hooked up with her sister, so we have been together many times in the past.
I am wondering if I can pull off a double on an extended basis and live to tell about it, ie have a live in lady and her sister on the side.[/QUOTE]Why not if they both agree to the deal.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570834]I have a long term barfine who I cut off a few weeks ago. Of course, she is constantly messaging me asking to come back. Mai pen rai. The wrinkle is her twin sister is in a bit of a jam. Although she doesn't like to fuck and she looks for men who can't fuck, she now has a Thai boyfriend who had an accident and is not capable of an erection. And now she claims that her story is she wants to fuck once in a while, the thought of never fucking again scares her, but she wants to keep the boyfriend. So, she thinks that fucking a Farang is not really cheating, and wants to fuck every once in a while. Meanwhile, she grabs my dick every chance she gets. I used to barfine her before I hooked up with her sister, so we have been together many times in the past.
I am wondering if I can pull off a double on an extended basis and live to tell about it, ie have a live in lady and her sister on the side.[/QUOTE]If it were me I'd consult with the boyfriend. Haha. Hahahaha. Haha. Haha.
Give him an erectile functional test. Abraham Lincoln said Trust then verify.
Danny Duck say verify First.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570834]I am wondering if I can pull off a double on an extended basis and live to tell about it, ie have a live in lady and her sister on the side.[/QUOTE]Are you banging both of them, only one, or neither? Will you be banging other girls too?
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2570525]If they are idiots why are you flying 1,000's of miles to be with them.
Please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Many men enjoy the sensation of putting their penis in a vagina more than they enjoy jerking off over internet streams.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2570868]Are you banging both of them, only one, or neither? Will you be banging other girls too?[/QUOTE]If I go back with my long term barfine, then of course, I would be banging her. The question is if I could get away with banging the sister. The reality is that the sister doesn't really want to fuck, she just wants to have a working dick available to her in case of emergency. Not that there is a shortage of dicks in Pattaya, but she doesn't want to get involved with a second Thai man.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2570835]Why not if they both agree to the deal.[/QUOTE]The odds of that are slim.
Since restaurants in Pattaya are open, why don't ladies work out of restaurants, same as bars?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570892]If I go back with my long term barfine, then of course, I would be banging her. The question is if I could get away with banging the sister. The reality is that the sister doesn't really want to fuck, she just wants to have a working dick available to her in case of emergency. Not that there is a shortage of dicks in Pattaya, but she doesn't want to get involved with a second Thai man.[/QUOTE]For long time, I'm used to fuck 2 real sisters in Pattaya. I met the first sister in a gogo "Showgirls" on Soi LK in Pattaya. And we became very good friends! I love her a lot even if she lives with a Thai man. I don't need to pay barfine with her anymore, I directly call her and she comes to my hotel room. We always fuck bareback, I always come inside her pussy because she told me she got an operation and can't get baby anymore so it's not a problem for her.
But she's very jealous! She doesn't like I go bang other girls! She would like stay with me everyday but like I told her, I love her a lot but I need fuck other ladies.
And finally, she introduced me to her sister one evening. He sister was working in gogo "Paradise" on Soi LK too. She was fucking sexy! I told her I want fuck her sister bareback! And she was totally OK with that! I think she doesn't want I go spend my money with other girls! And she prefers I spend my money with her or her sister because it's family. Her sister had a guy from Sweden who lives with her in Pattaya but I really think she doesn't care of him. He same like her, her sister allows me to fuck her bareback and let me come inside her pussy.
But they refuse to do threesome! I asked them we fuck all together, I was even ready to pay them much more but they don't want that! Not easy to do threesome with sexy ladies!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570894]Since restaurants in Pattaya are open, why don't ladies work out of restaurants, same as bars?[/QUOTE]Some do, I've seen working ladies in Hops before.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570834]I have a long term barfine who I cut off a few weeks ago. Of course, she is constantly messaging me asking to come back. Mai pen rai. The wrinkle is her twin sister is in a bit of a jam. Although she doesn't like to fuck and she looks for men who can't fuck, she now has a Thai boyfriend who had an accident and is not capable of an erection. And now she claims that her story is she wants to fuck once in a while, the thought of never fucking again scares her, but she wants to keep the boyfriend. So, she thinks that fucking a Farang is not really cheating, and wants to fuck every once in a while. Meanwhile, she grabs my dick every chance she gets. I used to barfine her before I hooked up with her sister, so we have been together many times in the past.
I am wondering if I can pull off a double on an extended basis and live to tell about it, ie have a live in lady and her sister on the side.[/QUOTE]Did I get it right 8939? There is a girl who doesn't like to fuck, who is a twin sister of an ex long term barfine and who has a Thai boyfriend who presumably she was regularly fucking who had an accident after which he cannot get an erection is now grabbing your dick every change she gets, the same girl you previously barfined and went with you presumably because you weren't able to fuck as this is the type of guy she was looking for.
A couple sits by the beach in Playas de Tijuana, Baja California State, Mexico, on Valentine's Day, on February 14,2021. – Despite the beach at Playas de Tijuana is closed due to COVID-19 restrictions, many couples and visitors made their way to the beach for Valentine's Day. (Photo by Guillermo ARIAS / AFP).
Thailand's Heath Department has recommended that lovers and spouses avoid sex, if there is a risk of getting infected with COVID-19, and avoid sex with strangers.
Director of the Office of Reproductive Health at the Health Department Dr. Peerayuth Sanukul, said today (Wednesday) that having sex during the spread of COVID-19 infections is a health risk and, therefore, they should consider the risks and consequences to themselves and others in society before having sex.
He said that, if a person has tested positive for the virus, or is awaiting the result of a COVID-19 test, they should refrain from having sex until they are cleared of the disease.
Full story: [URL]https://www.thaipbsworld.com/avoid-sex-in-case-of-covid-19-risks-thailands-health-department-says/[/URL].
Logo-top-. Png.
Only for those who graduated from High Skool.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qXKggmcaRU[/URL]
4 girls. One is clearly the Prettiest.
Which one?
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2569233]Jealousy does happen.
Early on. Took a massage parlor girl ok face awesome Breasts, be cups. Ok session.
Went back to same place. Took her arch enemy Superstar, uneventful.
Took original girl again as cold a fish as you will ever see. My crime was taking her Enemy. I did not know reason for her Frozen ness.[/QUOTE]This jealousy happened to me at a total legit massage place. I had been offered handies but always declined. This woman gave the absolute best massages ever. I always tipped as though I had received a handy. I loved the massages. I would go every three or four days. I told her I had a wife. I showed her pics. Great massages for years. My wife comes to Thailand, I introduce her. She gives my wife the worst massage and now only gives me shitty looks when I walk by. I guess she thought the pics on my phone of my wife were fake. LOL I can't help that I have a petite (non Thai) hot wife. LOL.
I found out that trip with my wife who were the cool chicks and who were the weirdos. The cool chicks all loved meeting my wife. Bartenders, hotel staff, p4p women. From then on, even on my own, I was even cooler to them. My wife drank for free in the hotels I frequent, the bars I frequent. Charged me for my drinks but she drank free in Thailand. LOL It was awesome. I knew one of the bartenders I frequented was gay. She was seriously into my wife and treated me super nice after that. So my wife's trip wasn't all jealous women. The sex that was really good before, became over top hot from then on. Like they knew I was getting good stuff at home and they were competing with my wife who is a nasty girl.
I can't wait to get back to Thailand.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2570802]About looks of Pattaya Bargirls etc.
There's a theory those that are servicing us in tourist hotspots are the Leftovers, those that the general s, politicians, elite don't want.
Do you subscribe?
I certainly do.
You think avg Thai man would be caught red handed with a Beer Bar Dark Skin Rotund Old Smelly Barmaid that so many here Love.[/QUOTE]Indeed. Pattaya has always been overhelmingly leftovers, since I started coming in the early 2000's. However, back in the day, you could find some truly decent Issan women who had a misfortune of being knocked up by a teenage sweetheart, and thus had no long-term prospects with Thai men, not even at the bottom end. These days it's 90% tattoed sharks with fake noses and monster eyebreows who have been on the game for way too long.
Sometimes life sucks. Occasionally life sucks twice.
Some of you may remember my first post 'Pattaya after an appendicitis' on 28 January 2020. In that post I promised myself a second chance in January 2021. That is past due already. The reason is that while I was in Pattaya, somewhere in Wuhan in China a worldwide pandemic was developing. This effectively ruined my second chance and I had to postpone my visit. Patience is a virtue.
So instead of sharing non-existing experiences with girls I will share an update about my experience with dating sites. To be more precise: ThaiFriendly (TF). TF is mentioned by many fellow mongers, but maybe due to Covid-19 or maybe that I did a wider research, I had a more realistic experience. I checked about 15 000+ profiles and viewed 30 000+ photos over the past year and a half.
So, here are my experiences.
First question: Why are so many Thai women at all on dating sites like TF at all? The main reason seems to be that Thai men are not a very reliable species when it comes to a stable relationship. Alcohol, domestic violence, and adultery are common (yes, I realize that this also occurs in all Western countries). Thai women try to find love and security. And if it does not exist in Thailand, they conclude that it must be somewhere abroad. Success stories about Thai-Farang marriages feed that belief. Failures are common but are concealed.
Another observation was that only a small percentage of the girls on TF were actually looking for P4 P. Most (90%) girls are now looking for serious relationship or marriage. This changes however when you search regionally. When you search for girls in Pattaya, the probability that you find girls that are looking for P4 P increases drastically. If you search in the Isan region, most (if not all) women are looking for a serious relationship only.
Most Thai women on TF look extremely good and that simple fact should raise suspicion. It turns out that virtually all of them are using beauty apps. If you look well at their faces, you will notice one or more of the following aspects: they have a perfect smooth and white skin, a nose that is smaller and narrower than the Thai average, large eyes, red lips, white teeth, high cheekbones, and a narrow chin. Although some girls were born like this, most girls use beauty apps like FaceApp, Ulike, Soda, B612 and others to acquire these features. When I asked some women about this, they simply answered "everyone does". The ideal face which Asians consider beautiful has a triangular shape with a perfect skin, large eyes, and a pale color. Some women exaggerate using beauty apps however and make a caricature of themselves. In most cases: what you see is NOT what you get.
But although they use beauty apps, they are very honest about their weight. Even a fat girl honestly states that she weighs 87 kg at 1. 60 m (191 lb at 5 ft 2" I only saw a few exceptions. When I was dating women on LavaLife in the early 2000's in North-America, I often got a message just before I was going to meet a girl in person: "Hey, about my photos, there is something I have to tell you. ". Then came a story that she gained 30 pounds since her photo was taken.
Also look how girls present themselves on TF. If she shows only her face, then her face is her best part. If she shows more, then you can expect more. The rest is a gamble and you might end up with a pretty face with a nice rack, but with an 80+ kg / 176+ lb body attached to it. Nice if you love voluptuous females, but that you can get in every part of the EU or US.
Access to the messaging system of TF varies from time to time and from ID to ID. I have had moments where contacting even the ugliest fat 50+ dogs would cost me a premium recurring membership of $20/ month. On other occasions I could contact the hottest and sexiest 20 somethings for free. This behavior seems to be random but is also be connected to the status of your ID and Covid-19. I experienced situations where I could contact a girl using one ID but could not contact her using another ID.
In any case: install the Line app on your smartphone. WhatsApp is almost nonexistent in Thailand. If you want a free ride on TF, put your Line ID into your profile description so that girls can contact you on Line without using the TF messaging system. But be careful. Regularly check whether your Line ID is still visible "as is" to the girls. TF actively filters this!
About this ID filtering of your profile on TF, I can tell you how it operates. And it operates quite subtle. At a certain moment I had two phones with two TF IDs so I could use one account to check what was being displayed on the other. For example: the last line on my introduction was "my Line ID is <my ID ". When I checked this with the other account I only saw "My line ID is" without <my ID. So <my ID was filtered by TF. The actual text stays on your profile but it does not reach the other intact and you don't have a clue that your text is tampered with. This is digital communication at its best and it also proofs that every single line you read and write is also read (and processed) by TF's algorithms. After all you are in Asia and TF is an Asian app.
Another thing you should understand is that TF is a client app and that all your profile text and all messages do NOT stay on your phone. They stay on TF servers. This practically means for example that when a girl blocks you, you cannot get to your own messages to that girl anymore because access all conversation becomes blocked. When you delete your account, there is no guarantee that your messages, photos, and profile are deleted too. TF is a data company, and I don't believe they actually delete your data. They just make it invisible by moving it elsewhere. And don't think a new account gives you a clean start because your unique phone ID goes with every account. The girls might not see it, but TF sees it.
You can send a free message on TF every 10 minutes, provided that the girl is not rated "very poplar", in which case you must pay. But if you send your next message earlier than 10 minutes, even one second, you will lose that message completely. Good to know: a female account doesn't have these limitations.
It is also possible that a girl's status is raised to "popular" during your chats. From that moment you can't chat with that girl anymore, you don't have access anymore to all previous chats and you must pay to regain access. This is one of the building blocks of the TF business model. And also one of the driving forces that forces girls to change their accounts regularly because once they become "popular", they can only be reached by the small fraction of paying members.
Therefore, the average digital lifespan of most P4 P TF girls lasts only a few weeks / months and sometimes they change their profiles quicker than you change your underwear. I once made a small database of about 80 interesting profiles and 4 months later only 10 profiles still exist. Conclusion: it is useless to start a search for P4 P girls months before you come to Thailand because most profiles will have vanished when you arrive. Instead ask for Line IDs, or better, their phone number.
While the choice of young attractive P4 P girls was still large in January 2020, this source dried up in June 2020. The simple explanation is that most young P4 P girls returned to their villages and wait for better times. As a result, the average age on TF has increased. While in January 2020 the average age was about 25, at current (June 2021) the average age is 35. You still find 20 somethings but now you also find ladies in their 50's or even 60+'s. This is a large increase which took place mainly during the last half year.
Now, most women on TF are looking for a serious relationship (and financial stability), even in Pattaya. P4 P can still be found but is not overwhelming the Pattaya section of TF anymore as it was before Covid-19. That is, unless there is a long weekend and the boys from Bangkok drop in. Then the number of P4 P contacts in TF increases substantially. P4 P on TF is a market driven instrument: when there are buyers you will find suppliers. When Covid-19 has left us, TF will be full again with P4 P girls in the Pattaya region.
Interesting fact: TF keeps a record of abused phone numbers for years. This happened to me in the beginning when registering the second TF account using a prepaid SIM card. The phone number linked to this SIM resulted in an immediate cancellation of my registration. Instead of going through the painful procedure of re-activation by email, I decided to buy another SIM card and the process went flawless.
Widespread on TF is the Venus and Mars contradiction. One girl once commented: "If I look sexy that doesn't mean I want sex". This one of the most common misinterpretations on TF. If a woman wears a legging because she has a good figure and a crop tank top because she wants to show her flat tummy, it doesn't mean that she wants to be fucked to eternity. But it also leads to a contradiction in termini because these same women are pimping their profile photos using beauty apps and men must figure out who is really behind these pictures and what she wants.
But it also seems that a part of us mongers are not capable to distinguish between serious and P4 P girls on TF. I chatted with a lot of serious girls and their main complaints were that they received indecent proposals from random fun-seeking foreigners who did not read their profiles where the girls explicitly indicated they were looking for a serious relationship. Those men asked for nude photos and sent photos of their dicks. Please guys, don't do it. This is considered extremely rude in Thai culture and it feeds the growing feelings of Asian supremacy where Western culture is seen as inferior.
So how do you recognize P4 P girls on TF? They cannot advertise their services openly. You must look for hidden signs. Look at their visual language for example. If you see one or more images like this: 1) She is lying sparsely dressed and / or in a seductive pose 2) a photo when she is in a hotel room with a used bed in the background (the 'after work' photo) or, 3) a photo where she is clearly in a bar setting (pink / red light), wearing a bar outfit. Then she is probably a P4 P girl (where the second "P" doesn't necessarily mean "sex".
Also read their profile text carefully (if present). Other signs of P4P are: 1) when she is in her early 20's and doesn't have an upper limit of the age of the men she wants to meet 2) phrases in their profiles like 'looking for fun only', 'nothing serious' or 'I like old man'.
On the other side of the spectrum are the serious girls who often show photos when they are nicely or casually dressed in a home or holyday setting. If they show skin, this only meant to give an idea about their (good) figure and fertility (breasts). Their profile descriptions often contain expressions like 'serious relationship' or '(looking for) love'.
Other Pattaya related observations:
Due to the lack of customers many bars were catapulted into the digital era. Oh Bar in Pattaya was among one of the first bars that went virtual in August 2020 on a YouTube channel. They were quite successful in the beginning, but they were thrown off YouTube for showing too much skin. They restarted with a new channel soon thereafter with a concept copied from K-pop girl groups and became successful again. Now many bars are streaming during their business hours (or beyond) on YouTube and other channels like Twitch. Some offer 1000 Baht paid Zoom invitations for a raunchier experience. Some freelancers now offer paid one-to-one experience too with their smartphone cameras using Line or WhatsApp. It is a simple principle: The girls are there where the money is. And during a lockdown with no tourists this is behind a streaming camera. Latest developments: Pattaya police is now actively surveilling the Internet and take down bars that are streaming.
Foreign tourism dropped 99% and what was left were a few stranded travelers and the many expats who enjoyed the sunny climate and thecor of women in Pattaya and Jomtien. Some of these expats made some extra bucks by posting boring videos about their daily walk to beach road, Family mart or Terminal 21. Since no one was interested in their vlogs anymore they now loudly proclaim the fall of Pattaya.
I doubt that. Thai society is resilient in a different way than most Westerners understand. When the money starts flowing again, things will recover quickly. After all many popular entertainment venues like beer bars are nothing more than a few poles and corrugated sheet. The main building blocks: cheap girls, beer, and shacks, are still present. When the tourists return, the business returns. The only factor of uncertainty is the Thai government and its inimitable 'knights of good manners' who plan to reform the entertainment business. Let's see who wins: money or moral. I think a much bigger threat comes from the environmental activists in the West demanding to minimize flights to what they were during the peak of Covid-19. If there are no flights to Thailand anymore then Thailand really has a problem.
So, the question is: when will I (be able to) go back? Considering the chaotic situation with vaccines worldwide, mutating viruses, and the changing and gainsaying rules of the Thai government, I think it will take at least until November 2022 before the situation has stabilized and a significant part of the Thai population is vaccinated. Even the western countries (I. E. EU and US) still have less than half of their populations fully vaccinated and the UK is facing an increasing number of infections again thanks to the delta (Indian) variant (situation as per June 2021). Thailand is not yet able to produce sufficient vaccines for itself. Rare but serious side effects with some vaccines combined with unreliable information from random Internet sources resulted in a growing number of antivaxxers. And I don't see how the WHO can change this on short term as they are more involved in politics than medicine. Thailand is struggling when to re-open for tourists. But we will see all kinds of hassle happening during this re-opening that might force them to (partly) re-close again which will be a repetition of the situation in March 2020.
Therefore, I put my cards on November 2022 to play safe. With a very full wallet because I didn't spend anything. I will be back in summer 2022 on this forum with an update.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2570894]Since restaurants in Pattaya are open, why don't ladies work out of restaurants, same as bars?[/QUOTE]Who says they don't?
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2570916]Did I get it right 8939? There is a girl who doesn't like to fuck, who is a twin sister of an ex long term barfine and who has a Thai boyfriend who presumably she was regularly fucking who had an accident after which he cannot get an erection is now grabbing your dick every change she gets, the same girl you previously barfined and went with you presumably because you weren't able to fuck as this is the type of guy she was looking for.[/QUOTE]Literally true. The bottom line is she claims she wants to fuck once in a while. My opinion is she doesn't really want to fuck, she just wants to have a dick she can fuck on standby.
But now there is some sort of legal disaster, the police are after her for fighting with another lady.
Meanwhile, I barfined her sister last night. But not before hooking up with 2 ladies who got drunk and naked and at least pretended to be horny for a couple of hours. The lack of customers in Pattaya should not be underestimated because at least some of the ladies are giving great service.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571116]Who says they don't?[/QUOTE]I'm not seeing many ladies hanging around restaurants in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571121]Meanwhile, I barfined her sister last night.[/QUOTE]Are you just using this an as expression meaning that you had her come over last night? I certainly hope that you're not paying barfines to bars that are closed.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571150]I'm not seeing many ladies hanging around restaurants in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I assume your definition of Pattaya doesn't go East of Third Road and is mainly restricted to the main baht bus route. Most Thai girls don't live in this area. Try going to the areas where Thai girls hang out when not with a Farang. If you want bar girls, try one of the many many many Thai BBQs where you will find a ton of bar girls after work.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571150]I'm not seeing many ladies hanging around restaurants in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Have you tried strolling Beach Road. Used to be full of all kinds of women. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571121]But now there is some sort of legal disaster, the police are after her for fighting with another lady.[/QUOTE]Can it get any more complicated and which metaphor to use, the plots thickens, it gets curiouser and curiouser, another twist in the tale, Will the intrepid Pol LT Gen Tanawat catch the twin sister before the boyfriend regains an erection or does she have to depend on the reluctant farang for one last shag before being condemned to an uncertain future. Nest episode coming soon.
The video seems to have disappeared, any other way!
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2571008]Only for those who graduated from High Skool.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qXKggmcaRU[/URL]
4 girls. One is clearly the Prettiest.
Which one?[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure he is just making up stories. But he will have some explanation to tell.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2571151]Are you just using this an as expression meaning that you had her come over last night? I certainly hope that you're not paying barfines to bars that are closed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2571151]Are you just using this an as expression meaning that you had her come over last night? I certainly hope that you're not paying barfines to bars that are closed.[/QUOTE]Yeah, paid sex.
But I did barfine a massage lady last night. She was working at her shop, but I had her come over for a visit.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571156]I assume your definition of Pattaya doesn't go East of Third Road and is mainly restricted to the main baht bus route. Most Thai girls don't live in this area. Try going to the areas where Thai girls hang out when not with a Farang. If you want bar girls, try one of the many many many Thai BBQs where you will find a ton of bar girls after work.[/QUOTE]The problem being that bars are closed, many bar girls went home, restaurants are closing early.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2571285]I'm pretty sure he is just making up stories. But he will have some explanation to tell.[/QUOTE]I am only posting a fraction of what I am doing with the ladies. There just aren't that many customers, so they are hungry to make any money.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2571269]The video seems to have disappeared, any other way![/QUOTE]No.
Hahaha.
There's not many but I am seeing Pattaya Soi 6 girls that are quite Lovely.
5 to be exact. Bimint. Bella. Ae. Reference above don't know name. Sai. Apple, face OK but damn she looks like fun- doesn't dress provocatively so hard to judge breasts. LOL.
To be fair I never stepped in a Soi 6 bar. Just walked past many a times.
I like Agogo set-up.
A couple of weeks ago, I was watching a livestream, when the police raided the place. We were all carted down to the station and lectured on the impact of Covid on Pattaya. So, no more livestream.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2571485]No.
Hahaha.
There's not many but I am seeing Pattaya Soi 6 girls that are quite Lovely.
5 to be exact. Bimint. Bella. Ae. Reference above don't know name. Sai. Apple, face OK but damn she looks like fun- doesn't dress provocatively so hard to judge breasts. LOL.
To be fair I never stepped in a Soi 6 bar. Just walked past many a times.
I like Agogo set-up.[/QUOTE]Like another member here I wouldn't be surprised is this post was more accurate if he said " To be fair I have never stepped in Thailand."
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571501]A couple of weeks ago, I was watching a livestream, when the police raided the place. We were all carted down to the station and lectured on the impact of Covid on Pattaya. So, no more livestream.[/QUOTE]I was already confused by barfining ladies when bars are closed, now watching livestreams "live".
Is this an alternate universe?
I just came back from a grocery run, where I had a lady try to pick me up on the baht bus. I was not too excited about inviting a street Walker to my condo, so I declined.
Her MO was to hang out by a moto bike area, and watch the Farangs getting on the baht bus. In my case, she blew 10 baht once she got on the baht bus.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571592]Her MO was to hang out by a moto bike area, and watch the Farangs getting on the baht bus. In my case, she blew 10 baht once she got on the baht bus.[/QUOTE]No she didn't. She will keep riding that baht bus until she finds a customer. That's how it works in Pattaya. I get hit on all the time on baht buses. At times from girls already with a guy.
[QUOTE=Danny Duck;2571485]To be fair I never stepped in a Soi 6 bar. Just walked past many a times.[/QUOTE]
This is one of your more bizarre comments. Does anyone else on here know another guy who has walked down Soi 6 many times on his many visits to Pattaya and he has never set foot in a Soi 6 bar?
Bit Siri
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571607]No she didn't. She will keep riding that baht bus until she finds a customer. That's how it works in Pattaya. I get hit on all the time on baht buses. At times from girls already with a guy.
Bit Siri[/QUOTE]Since the baht bus was headed to Jomtien, she got off when I got off and headed over to another moto taxi stand, presumably to wait for a farang.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571607] This is one of your more bizarre comments. Does anyone else on here know another guy who has walked down Soi 6 many times on his many visits to Pattaya and he has never set foot in a Soi 6 bar?
Bit Siri[/QUOTE]I know quite a few guys who do this, they mainly belong so a certain south Asian community, they look and tire kick on soi 6 before going down to beach road where they try to bargain down SW to 500 bht which is their budget.
Hint. Don't get too exited about a report girls or girls who may not be girls hitting on customers with Barfines.
If a person has to go actively searching for customers stay away. Big red flag.
Probably drug addicted, or highly undesirable.
Think critical. When was the last time a pretty Thai girl hit on you or your buddies. It's uncultural. LOL.
Bella livestream. 5 workers. 3 left on long holiday. 3 replacements are quite an upgrade.
What a difference good pleasing faces make.
To get your Goat Hairs up I bought Bella more Drinks.
Hshahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2571632]I know quite a few guys who do this, they mainly belong so a certain south Asian community, they look and tire kick on soi 6 before going down to beach road where they try to bargain down SW to 500 bht which is their budget.[/QUOTE]Don't get me started on the walking of beach road looking for pretty Thai girlls.
After strolling Soi 6, I'm at the Road of Beach.
I see girls on Soi 6. Can't say I've seen much young uns on the Beach.
If I had to describe girls of the beach as Animal s I'd label them Walrus and Buzzards,. Ok I exaggerate but not much. That's why you can get them for a Burger and Fries.
P.S. . Just not into Freelancer s. Too much hassle. I want a girl who is employed, little worry about theft or death.
Did you know in Real Business Indians renege on done deals. That's why really no one wants to do business with them. And they stay a Gutter country.
Thailand is Clean as a whistle compared to India when it comes to Corruption.
How do I know this having never been to India. Just observation and critical thinking. LOL.
I am going to try a short trip to Koh Larn today, which has been closed until last week. The ferry is allegedly running on the standard schedule. Farangs are supposed to show their passport, but that is no problem for me since I am checking in to a hotel and need to show my passport anyway.
I will bring 2 pairs of ladies, and stay in a hotel near the pier. I have discovered that it's usually not a good idea to pair up 2 ladies who don't know each other, they don't like to get drunk and naked in front of a strange lady.
[QUOTE=Blackbiro;2571578]I was already confused by barfining ladies when bars are closed, now watching livestreams "live".
Is this an alternate universe?[/QUOTE]By Barfining ladies, I mean paying them for an overnighter.
As for watching a livestream live, sure. That's where the ladies are that I barfine for an overnighter. Or were.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2571234]Can it get any more complicated and which metaphor to use, the plots thickens, it gets curiouser and curiouser, another twist in the tale, Will the intrepid Pol LT Gen Tanawat catch the twin sister before the boyfriend regains an erection or does she have to depend on the reluctant farang for one last shag before being condemned to an uncertain future. Nest episode coming soon.[/QUOTE]The plot thickening is that the sister hit me up for 15,000 baht to pay to not go to the Monkey House, which I declined. She hocked the gold her boyfriend gave her instead. So, she is going to be hurting for cash for the next few months.
The boyfriend's physical damage is permanent, which is why the sister is proposing to make some sort of long time boom-boom deal. It's not that she is horny, she just wants to have an available dick in case of emergency.
It's hard to imagine the poverty in Pattaya now. Last night, I had over a former go-go dancer from Skyfall. She was living off 4,000 baht a month, and her Thai boyfriend had no salary, he did the cooking and cleaning for her. The only available job for many men is fucking a bar girl.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2571768]Hint. Don't get too exited about a report girls or girls who may not be girls hitting on customers with Barfines.
If a person has to go actively searching for customers stay away. Big red flag.
Probably drug addicted, or highly undesirable.
Think critical. When was the last time a pretty Thai girl hit on you or your buddies. It's uncultural. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am not a great fan of streetwalkers in Pattaya. When I used to stay at View Talay 6, I would go out at night and secure a lady. In the dark, it's not so easy to be sure it's a lady. I had one lady who wanted the lights off. I did her doggy, but I'm not sure of what was going on down there. Anyway, I was drunk, and it was quick.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571871] The only available job for many men is fucking a bar girl.[/QUOTE]I guess it could be worse.
[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2571886]I guess it could be worse.[/QUOTE]It's normally a decent job, but now it's low paid. Also, if the man gets caught fucking another girl, he's dead meat.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571872] In the dark, it's not so easy to be sure it's a lady. I had one lady who wanted the lights off. I did her doggy, but I'm not sure of what was going on down there. Anyway, I was drunk, and it was quick.[/QUOTE]It means you prefer the ladyboy look even in girls. I would never pick up a ladyboy even if I was in a drunken stupor because that is not my look at all for girls.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571956]It means you prefer the ladyboy look even in girls. I would never pick up a ladyboy even if I was in a drunken stupor because that is not my look at all for girls.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I talk with ladyboys (kathoy) working in bars. I like talking to them little naughty stuffs. But never interested physically. It is easy to distinguish a lady boy even if we are drunk heavily as said by BB. Use your eyes, ear and brain properly. Ladyboys as hookers in the street are dangerous. Look of a lady and mind of a crooked man. Beware unless you are not interested. If interested better pick one from a bar not from street.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2571871]The plot thickening is that the sister hit me up for 15,000 baht to pay to not go to the Monkey House, which I declined. She hocked the gold her boyfriend gave her instead. So, she is going to be hurting for cash for the next few months.
The boyfriend's physical damage is permanent, which is why the sister is proposing to make some sort of long time boom-boom deal. It's not that she is horny, she just wants to have an available dick in case of emergency.
It's hard to imagine the poverty in Pattaya now. Last night, I had over a former go-go dancer from Skyfall. She was living off 4,000 baht a month, and her Thai boyfriend had no salary, he did the cooking and cleaning for her. The only available job for many men is fucking a bar girl.[/QUOTE]Well Explorer true to your name you've unlocked at least for me a heretofore hidden aspect of the usually maligned "Thai Boyfriend". The local Mia Noi arrangement apart which traditionally doesn't involve full time working girls it's rare to find a bar girl's boyfriend rich enough to buy her gold and then so besotted to actually do it, Then horror of all horrors tragically an accident takes his dick permanently out of action so no more boom boom with the love of his life. Can it get any sadder?
To make it even more intriguing you have also come across a girl living on 4000 a month which after even a rock bottom rent of 2000 leaves her with 60 Baht a day who can still afford a live in lad who cleans cooks and services her sexual needs.
Good to hear the twin sister has avoided the dreaded "monkey House" and come on Explorer I feel the least you can do for her is take care of her when in case of emergency whatever that looks like she needs an available dick. I know I know its a sacrifice but you know it's the right thing to do'.
Eagerly awaiting the next twist in the tale.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2571956]It means you prefer the ladyboy look even in girls. I would never pick up a ladyboy even if I was in a drunken stupor because that is not my look at all for girls.[/QUOTE]Nope.
I wandered out of View Talay 6 late at night, and picked the first lady I ran into. It's pretty dark back there and the lights were off in my room.
Having said that, there are attractive ladyboys in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2572034]Nope.
I wandered out of View Talay 6 late at night, and picked the first lady I ran into. It's pretty dark back there and the lights were off in my room.
Having said that, there are attractive ladyboys in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Why would you (or anyone) fuck with the lights off? Don't you want to see who (or what) you're fucking?
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2572114]Why would you (or anyone) fuck with the lights off? Don't you want to see who (or what) you're fucking?[/QUOTE]I do. That's why I have No problem paying $3,000.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2572013]Well Explorer true to your name you've unlocked at least for me a heretofore hidden aspect of the usually maligned "Thai Boyfriend". The local Mia Noi arrangement apart which traditionally doesn't involve full time working girls it's rare to find a bar girl's boyfriend rich enough to buy her gold and then so besotted to actually do it, Then horror of all horrors tragically an accident takes his dick permanently out of action so no more boom boom with the love of his life. Can it get any sadder?
To make it even more intriguing you have also come across a girl living on 4000 a month which after even a rock bottom rent of 2000 leaves her with 60 Baht a day who can still afford a live in lad who cleans cooks and services her sexual needs.
Good to hear the twin sister has avoided the dreaded "monkey House" and come on Explorer I feel the least you can do for her is take care of her when in case of emergency whatever that looks like she needs an available dick. I know I know its a sacrifice but you know it's the right thing to do'.
Eagerly awaiting the next twist in the tale.[/QUOTE]Although you are being facetious, you are laying out the problem the ladies have now in Pattaya. When July 1 comes and goes with the bars still closed, many ladies will move on. I know some planning to go to Phuket if the bars open.
Right now, I am in Koh Larn with some ladies. You guys who are not here don't grasp how desperate the ladies are for customers now. I had 2 ladies last night jockeying for pole position. When it came time to go to bed, one took a shower, and the other jumped in bed with me. But then she was sick, and went out to throw up. Fortunately the second one finished her shower, and climbed into bed.
Oh, concerning the Thai lady with the injured boyfriend, he was injured before they hooked up. It was a feature and not a bug for her, as she swears she doesn’t like to fuck. But after a few months, the permanent nature of things got to her, the idea of never fucking again was a bit scary. But, she doesn’t necessarily want to fuck, just have the opportunity if she needs it.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2571973]Sometimes I talk with ladyboys (kathoy) working in bars. I like talking to them little naughty stuffs. But never interested physically. It is easy to distinguish a lady boy even if we are drunk heavily as said by BB. Use your eyes, ear and brain properly. Ladyboys as hookers in the street are dangerous. Look of a lady and mind of a crooked man. Beware unless you are not interested. If interested better pick one from a bar not from street.[/QUOTE]Pre-Covid, I would occasionally select a lady from the Coconut bar on Beach Road. Most of the ladies had just left their day job, and were looking for a quick 1000 baht to take home.
Sometimes the selection was pretty good. The downside for me was how many ladies gave group discounts to customers from South Asia.
Koh Larn is open for business and the ferries are running on the standard schedule. My plan for today is to hit one of the beaches, and then head back to the hotel for drinks and sex.
Not a bad holiday.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2572304]Although you are being facetious, you are laying out the problem the ladies have now in Pattaya. When July 1 comes and goes with the bars still closed, many ladies will move on. I know some planning to go to Phuket if the bars open.
Right now, I am in Koh Larn with some ladies. You guys who are not here don't grasp how desperate the ladies are for customers now. I had 2 ladies last night jockeying for pole position. When it came time to go to bed, one took a shower, and the other jumped in bed with me. But then she was sick, and went out to throw up. Fortunately the second one finished her shower, and climbed into bed.
Oh, concerning the Thai lady with the injured boyfriend, he was injured before they hooked up. It was a feature and not a bug for her, as she swears she doesnt like to fuck. But after a few months, the permanent nature of things got to her, the idea of never fucking again was a bit scary. But, she doesnt necessarily want to fuck, just have the opportunity if she needs it.[/QUOTE]Faceetious, treating something serious in an inappropriate manner umm easy I guess to see it that way. So in my defense may I confirm I am totally in sync with you on the plight of the hundreds of thousands of Thais in dire financial straits and how in desperation they grasp at an opportunity to make some money. This is not a laughing matter and apologizes if this is how it came across.
On your posted escapades Explorer I can only say you have either the most enviable and enthralling lifestyle or an equally enthralling imagination. Either way your posts make for an enjoyable read except perhaps for the accounts of drunk girls continuously barfing but as you wisely travel with multiple companions there are always backups to snuggle up to. If the twin sister is really desperate and you are not in the mood etc etc etc.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2572419]Faceetious, treating something serious in an inappropriate manner umm easy I guess to see it that way. So in my defense may I confirm I am totally in sync with you on the plight of the hundreds of thousands of Thais in dire financial straits and how in desperation they grasp at an opportunity to make some money. This is not a laughing matter and apologizes if this is how it came across.
On your posted escapades Explorer I can only say you have either the most enviable and enthralling lifestyle or an equally enthralling imagination. Either way your posts make for an enjoyable read except perhaps for the accounts of drunk girls continuously barfing but as you wisely travel with multiple companions there are always backups to snuggle up to. If the twin sister is really desperate and you are not in the mood etc etc etc.[/QUOTE]What makes me uneasy is the framing of the situation.
Helping is donate time and his largesse to Thai Red Cross.
He just Party with who knows who.
Just as Desire and Lust were building sales looks like they got shut down again.
I could only find one Stream. No good faces. LOL.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2572605]What makes me uneasy is the framing of the situation.
Helping is donate time and his largesse to Thai Red Cross.
He just Party with who knows who.
Just as Desire and Lust were building sales looks like they got shut down again.
I could only find one Stream. No good faces. LOL.[/QUOTE]I admit it.
I am spending money on Thai ladies in the middle of an economic depression. Yes, I am a terrible person for not donating to the Red Cross instead.
What do naked drunk bargirls talk about? They talk about their bodies, who has the best tits, the best ass, etc. Or bodies of ladies who aren't there, who is a squirter, who has the best tits, etc. They will feel each other up as part of the conversation, but they never talk about each other's pussies, because that would be gay.
Maybe Livestreams being taken down again is a Blessing in disguise. Was getting out of control buying too many Drinks. I don't know if I was up to Six or 7. LOL.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2572965]Maybe Livestreams being taken down again is a Blessing in disguise. Was getting out of control buying too many Drinks. I don't know if I was up to Six or 7. LOL.[/QUOTE]In the local news, some Farang and 15 or so Thai ladies were busted by the police for doing a livestream in a private house. The equipment was confiscated. After the Covid case in a Soi 6 livestream, the police are serious about banning livestreams.
In a related story, Nightwish management disclosed they lost a lot of money when the funds from livestreams on PayPal disappeared. Since there are no new livestreams, NW has no income, and therefore laid off 220 employees.
The situation in Pattaya is becoming quite dire economically.
I had pretty good luck last night, neither lady got sick or passed out.
One lady was only 20, and talked all night about her Farang boyfriend from Wales, and how much she loved him. Even though she never met him.
Classic screwball bargirl behavior:
I invited a new girl to come to my condo last night, in addition to the 2 I already had invited. I sent her a street map and a photo of my condo as seen on the street.
The 2 ladies showed up on time, and we waited for the new lady. After an hour, one of the ladies called the new lady, who responded that she wasn't sure how to get to my place. After a lengthy discussion about taking a taxi to my place, the new lady was satisfied she knew how to get here. And then she stated she couldn't come right now. I told her to come some other day, but the point is why spend 5 minutes on directions to my place if you don't intend to come anyway?
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One of my former long term barfines messaged me complaining she was horny (meaning she had no customers). I reminded her that she did an overnight with me last week, and I knew that sex was a once a month thing for her. When she had a Thai husband, she said they fucked once a month, and that was okay for her.
Her response:
"he never made me feel happy in bed. Only boom boom and finish. Not same you did do for me”.
Only in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2573056]...The situation in Pattaya is becoming quite dire economically.[/QUOTE]You are like the IMF for Pattaya right now, supplying funds upon the meeting of your terms and conditions.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2573355]You are like the IMF for Pattaya right now, supplying funds upon the meeting of your terms and conditions.[/QUOTE]100%.
The epidemic is getting worse, and the ladies don't have many options. I suggested that they go back to their village, but they can't due to quarantine and testing requirements there.
Since the bars aren't going to open soon, the last hope is working restaurants where customers can barfine waitresses. I don't know if that business model is viable.
On a happier note (for me), the twin sister of my long term barfine came over last night for drinks and sex. She has a Thai boyfriend who had an accident and can't fuck. She complained bitterly that it's not just that he can't fuck, he has no interest in physical contact at all. I have known her for a long time, and I know that if he just ate her pussy once a month, she would be satisfied, but he won't do it.
The current crisis is that I have scheduled an overnighter with her sister on Tuesday, but she wants to come over, too. Not to spend the night, but to hang out for a few hours of drinking. It's always questionable when my ex has to share me as a customer with another lady, since I don't know when or if she will snap. So, I may have to tell the sister to give it a miss on Tuesday.
Anyway, I am scheduled to go back to Koh Larn today with another pair of ladies. Because of the epidemic, I am running out of places to go.
I arrived in Jomtien end December. Some ladies on the beach offer directly st 200-300 bahts. They are desperate.
I had 2 ladies over last night, one passed out quickly, the other was up for hours of fun. They both slept over, so we will have Round 2 tonight, after a day at the beach.
I amazed how much effort the ladies put into their orgasms. It's almost as if they aren't getting any action in Real Life.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2573518]100%.
On a happier note (for me), the twin sister of my long term barfine came over last night for drinks and sex.
The current crisis is that I have scheduled an overnighter with her sister on Tuesday, but she wants to come over, too. Not to spend the night, but to hang out for a few hours of drinking. It's always questionable when my ex has to share me as a customer with another lady, since I don't know when or if she will snap. So, I may have to tell the sister to give it a miss on Tuesday. [/QUOTE]Good job Explorer, hats off, you're the man, you selflessly came through for her.
Not in Thailand mind you but in my younger carefree days I've had menage a trois's with sisters a number of times and on one memorable occasion in Montreal during the 1986 Olympics with a mother and daughter (daughter invited the mother) but never with twin sisters. OK while she is not necessarily there for the sex I would imagine its more than possible she could be enticed to join in so E how can you even think of passing on an opportunity like that. Not sure how alike they look but the mind boggles when I imagine the possible confusion and fun to be had.
Of course Montreal Olympics were in 1976. Betraying my age.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2573518]I am scheduled to go back to Koh Larn today with another pair of ladies. Because of the epidemic, I am running out of places to go.[/QUOTE]Koh Samet, is open, but everything closes around 10 p. Lots of nice beaches. It's about an hour away from Patts. There's also Koh Chang, but that's farther.
Round 2 with the ladies on Koh Larn last night.
After some drinking, the three of us were sitting on a sofa, they were naked and so I ended up fingering them. They were both pretty dry, so I applied some flavored lube, and then they were gushing. The problem was that they didn't want the same method, one wanted light touching, but the other wanted pretty much fisting, and it's not easy to do both at the same time. Plus, it's not easy to jackhammer a lady with your hand when you are sitting next to her.
So I moved them to the bed, which was more comfortable. While I was fingering one lady, the other sat on my face. But I got tired of jackhammering the lady with my hand, so I switched them, and the lady I was licking gave me a BJ while the other sat on my face, so they double teamed me. The BJ turned into fucking, but I stopped before I came.
I moved us back to the sofa to cool down, but the ladies wanted more fingering. One of the ladies was grabbing the other ladies's arm to have her grab my dick, I don't know what that was about, but then I noticed that the lady was asleep, so I carried her to bed, and they both passed out.
I good a good night's sleep, too, I had to rest up for the boat ride back to Pattaya, and tonight's adventure.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2574120]Koh Samet, is open, but everything closes around 10 p. Lots of nice beaches. It's about an hour away from Patts. There's also Koh Chang, but that's farther.[/QUOTE]The problem is that Chonburi is a red zone, and Rayong is not, so there is some possibility of travel between the provinces being closed to nonessential travel.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2574075]Good job Explorer, hats off, you're the man, you selflessly came through for her.
Not in Thailand mind you but in my younger carefree days I've had menage a trois's with sisters a number of times and on one memorable occasion in Montreal during the 1986 Olympics with a mother and daughter (daughter invited the mother) but never with twin sisters. OK while she is not necessarily there for the sex I would imagine its more than possible she could be enticed to join in so E how can you even think of passing on an opportunity like that. Not sure how alike they look but the mind boggles when I imagine the possible confusion and fun to be had.[/QUOTE]People who see them for the first time think they are identical. Their bar manager couldn't tell them apart. But I can. And they have different sexual preferences.
Looking to party hard and I loved the Pattaya walking strip videos I've seen, looks like my cup of tea, except lately it looks dead af due to covid.
Is Pattaya going to open up August? Bring in that tourist money? What do you think? Thanks.
There is is just a few at the moment. No more than 10-15 girls in Jomtien beach and no more than 30 in Pattaya. In 2015 I was walking from the dolphins to walking street and counted more than 400 waiting at theirs coconut tree.
Meet this one early this year. She is 52 she said - 3 holers.
If you know ladies in Pattaya, this place is paradise. If you don't know anyone, it's dead, Jim.
But the massage places are kind of open, so there's a path to follow.
[QUOTE=Swann124;2574299]Looking to party hard and I loved the Pattaya walking strip videos I've seen, looks like my cup of tea, except lately it looks dead af due to covid.
Is Pattaya going to open up August? Bring in that tourist money? What do you think? Thanks.[/QUOTE]No, it will be October at the earliest, they have a plan to open Phuket in July and if that goes well then Pattaya in October.
I had the two sisters over, and it was a disaster. They both got naked, but it was obvious that one sister was cockblocking the other, and then the other sister tried the strategy of getting her so drunk that she would pass out. Except she didn't, she went crazy, and started screaming incoherently. The other sister tried to calm her down, and they started fighting. There is a time and a place for naked ladies boxing, but that wasn't it.
So, I had to calm sister #1 down, sister #2's boyfriend showed up to take her home, and I am stuck taking care of sister #1, waiting for her to pass out.
The sister thing was good in theory, but not in practice.
Yes, I remember on a nice winter evening in 2019 strolling from the start of walking street on beach road and counting at least 300 FL's to about Soi 7. I think there were still more lurking on towards the Hilton but turned off for my hotel near Soi 7. Remarkable.
[QUOTE=AsiaJack;2574334]There is is just a few at the moment. No more than 10-15 girls in Jomtien beach and no more than 30 in Pattaya. In 2015 I was walking from the dolphins to walking street and counted more than 400 waiting at theirs coconut tree.
Meet this one early this year. She is 52 she said - 3 holers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AsiaJack;2574334]There is is just a few at the moment. No more than 10-15 girls in Jomtien beach and no more than 30 in Pattaya. In 2015 I was walking from the dolphins to walking street and counted more than 400 waiting at theirs coconut tree.
Meet this one early this year. She is 52 she said - 3 holers.[/QUOTE]Hopefully by next year it will be back to 400 or more. That's an amazing 52 year old.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2574529]They both got naked, but it was obvious that one sister was cockblocking the other, and then the other sister tried the strategy of getting her so drunk that she would pass out. Except she didn't, she went crazy,
The sister thing was good in theory, but not in practice.[/QUOTE]Seems more like the alcohol thing is not good in practice.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2574529]So, I had to calm sister #1 down, sister #2's boyfriend showed up to take her home, and I am stuck taking care of sister #1, waiting for her to pass out.[/QUOTE]LOL First world problems, am I right? How awkward is it that sis2's boyfriend came over after you were trying to bone her?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574582]Seems more like the alcohol thing is not good in practice.[/QUOTE]That's a shame, because it seems good in the bar.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2574534]Yes, I remember on a nice winter evening in 2019 strolling from the start of walking street on beach road and counting at least 300 FL's to about Soi 7. I think there were still more lurking on towards the Hilton but turned off for my hotel near Soi 7. Remarkable.[/QUOTE]I remember a nice November evening in 2017 where there were only about 5-10 freelancers on that same stretch of water side Beach Road. There were a few more hanging by the motor scooter parking areas, perhaps a total of 20 on both sides of the road. One girl told me that police chased them away for a week.
I still wonder why that happened. The King's funeral was about 3-4 weeks prior, but Walking Street and Soi 6 were very active.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2574593]That's a shame, because it seems good in the bar.[/QUOTE]Yeah that is a bar. I have about 26 bottles of liquor in my room. I can count on 1 hand the number of chicks that have come over and wanted to drink in the last 12 years. Most bottles I have had over 10 years. Chick cleaning my room had to throw out Bailey's and Amarula because they had been sitting there 10 years unopened and had expired.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2574591]LOL First world problems, am I right? How awkward is it that sis2's boyfriend came over after you were trying to bone her?[/QUOTE]The sister's boyfriend always come over to pick her up after we have sex. It's a long story.
He is always very thankful. Times are hard in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574582]Seems more like the alcohol thing is not good in practice.[/QUOTE]Aú contraire, the ladies demand alcohol, they are bored out of their minds.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2574542]Hopefully by next year it will be back to 400 or more. That's an amazing 52 year old.[/QUOTE]She loves ass fuck and ask for it! She doesn't drink and smoke and real great body.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2574680]Yeah that is a bar. I have about 26 bottles of liquor in my room. I can count on 1 hand the number of chicks that have come over and wanted to drink in the last 12 years. Most bottles I have had over 10 years. [/QUOTE]Agree with you 100%. I always found it odd that every girl Explorer brought to his room wanted to get sloshed. So much so they all want to strip down naked because they got so hammered. None of the gogo girls I bring home drink more than 1 drink at my place and some of them drink like a fish in a bar! Not even sure why you would want a super drunk girl or be in a drunken stupor yourself. Greatly ruins the sex IMHO. Isn't that the whole point of bringing a girl home anyways?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2574749]Agree with you 100%. I always found it odd that every girl Explorer brought to his room wanted to get sloshed. So much so they all want to strip down naked because they got so hammered. None of the gogo girls I bring home drink more than 1 drink at my place and some of them drink like a fish in a bar! Not even sure why you would want a super drunk girl or be in a drunken stupor yourself. Greatly ruins the sex IMHO. Isn't that the whole point of bringing a girl home anyways?[/QUOTE]The focus is.
Get them drunk.
Get them naked.
Nothing else seems to happen in the room other than some serious floor cleaning every second night.
I miss the rational but, hey, YMMV LOL.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2574749]None of the gogo girls I bring home drink more than 1 drink at my place and some of them drink like a fish in a bar![/QUOTE]I keep very limited selection of drinks in my hotel, water and coconut juice are the girls' most common selections. Occasionally they will drink half a beer or a shot of tequila. Never did one get drunk in my room. Maybe they would drink more if I brought 2 girls or did LT. I try to maintain a boring regiment: chit chat, shower together, sex, cuddle, more chit chat, shower again, exchange Line ID, and send her away at about the 2 hour mark.
They don’t need alcohol to get naked, that’s part of the package deal negotiated in advance.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2574768]I keep very limited selection of drinks in my hotel, water and coconut juice are the girls' most common selections. Occasionally they will drink half a beer or a shot of tequila. Never did one get drunk in my room. Maybe they would drink more if I brought 2 girls or did LT. I try to maintain a boring regiment: chit chat, shower together, sex, cuddle, more chit chat, shower again, exchange Line ID, and send her away at about the 2 hour mark.
They dont need alcohol to get naked, thats part of the package deal negotiated in advance.[/QUOTE]I also do things like that. But I prefer drinking after making love. I enjoy LT and sleeping under the same blanket nothing in the body. He he. Morning wood and sleep after that will be a flow till next day noon. Brunch at 1 noon.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2574749]Agree with you 100%. I always found it odd that every girl Explorer brought to his room wanted to get sloshed. So much so they all want to strip down naked because they got so hammered. None of the gogo girls I bring home drink more than 1 drink at my place and some of them drink like a fish in a bar! Not even sure why you would want a super drunk girl or be in a drunken stupor yourself. Greatly ruins the sex IMHO. Isn't that the whole point of bringing a girl home anyways?[/QUOTE]If I plan to pick a gogo girl I do it early even if the BF is high. So she won't be high on LD. I prefer to go with her to Insomnia and Lucifer. Will grab a beer there. If mood is high stay long. Most of the time she will became very close to me. There begin the GFE. Then things will be interesting till next day noon.
If the lady is from coconut bar I prefer WG, especially massage parlour girls. They give good companionship if they feel that the person is good for them. That relation will go more days.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2574529]I had the two sisters over, and it was a disaster. They both got naked, but it was obvious that one sister was cockblocking the other, and then the other sister tried the strategy of getting her so drunk that she would pass out. Except she didn't, she went crazy, and started screaming incoherently. The other sister tried to calm her down, and they started fighting. There is a time and a place for naked ladies boxing, but that wasn't it.
So, I had to calm sister #1 down, sister #2's boyfriend showed up to take her home, and I am stuck taking care of sister #1, waiting for her to pass out.
The sister thing was good in theory, but not in practice.[/QUOTE]Geez E that certainly didn't go as expected. Sounds like classic sibling rivalry to me which I guess was always a possibility. I am trying to picture the situation of naked twins trying to get your attention and then one says to the other hey sis lets chill for a while and have a drink with the intention of staying sober herself while her twin passes out. Not sure how exactly she expected that to work and as it turned out it seems it didn't. Then presumably because of something said or perhaps one of them made a move on you the other goes berserk and a full blown WFC rumble ensued. As I mentioned before E you live a very interesting life, reminds me of a great novel called "Last Exit To Brooklyn" As an aside which of them was ahead before the referee stepped in.
[QUOTE=Thampi62;2574778]If I plan to pick a gogo girl I do it early even if the BF is high. So she won't be high on LD. I prefer to go with her to Insomnia and Lucifer. [/QUOTE]First why are you taking a gogo girl you just barfined to a bar where it's mainly guys looking for a girl and girls looking to be picked up? It's like saying I just picked up a girl at Nana and now I'm taking her to Thermae. If you want to bang her you're now committed to LT since you've wasted your ST at a cockfest bar. Second, what time do you consider early to pick up a gogo girl because Insomnia doesn't get going until after midnight at least. You said you pay the higher barfine which means that you likely have picked up the gogo girl well before midnight.
The one thing you did get right was I agree you never should wait until the barfine price drops unless it's like only 15 or 20 minutes. You will spend more on LD than the difference in BF. I remember my tourist days at Sensation thinking I'll save myself 500 baht or so on the BF. Ended up costing me way more in drinks in 2 hours. Learned my lesson after the first time.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2574749]Agree with you 100%. I always found it odd that every girl Explorer brought to his room wanted to get sloshed. So much so they all want to strip down naked because they got so hammered. None of the gogo girls I bring home drink more than 1 drink at my place and some of them drink like a fish in a bar! Not even sure why you would want a super drunk girl or be in a drunken stupor yourself. Greatly ruins the sex IMHO. Isn't that the whole point of bringing a girl home anyways?[/QUOTE]I pay them 1000 baht to come for the evening, drinking is up to them. Only occasionally does a lady get too drunk to function. The one last night woke up sober, and fucked my brains out in the morning, she just left now. I gave her an extra 1000 baht.
Most get mildly wasted and get horny. I am sorry if I am doing it wrong.
Concerning the ladies drinking, maybe it's the boredom from no customers, but yeah, most of them drink at night. Even those who leave my place mildly drunk will then go to a party and drink again.
This is Pattaya 2021, not the same as before Covid.
As for how the ladies act with me, I have known many of them for years now, one of the advantages of being a regular here. So, they know if they get too wasted and pass out, they are not going to wake up in a puddle of cum.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2574791]First why are you taking a gogo girl you just barfined to a bar where it's mainly guys looking for a girl and girls looking to be picked up? It's like saying I just picked up a girl at Nana and now I'm taking her to Thermae. If you want to bang her you're now committed to LT since you've wasted your ST at a cockfest bar. Second, what time do you consider early to pick up a gogo girl because Insomnia doesn't get going until after midnight at least. You said you pay the higher barfine which means that you likely have picked up the gogo girl well before midnight.
The one thing you did get right was I agree you never should wait until the barfine price drops unless it's like only 15 or 20 minutes. You will spend more on LD than the difference in BF. I remember my tourist days at Sensation thinking I'll save myself 500 baht or so on the BF. Ended up costing me way more in drinks in 2 hours. Learned my lesson after the first time.
Bit Siri.[/QUOTE]My main intention is to spent with the girl more time since my holidays are only for four or five days and I am alone. Most of the time I stay in Queen Victoria and my playground is Soi 6. In my early trips in 2012 to 15 I was more focused on coconut girls and bar girls, sometimes gogo bar girls. When I pick an early gogo catch I meant it at 10 PM. We go for a small dinner, sometimes sit in the Thai disco bar at the beginning of walking street. Move to insomnia around 11 .In my travel experience Thai is a place where we can hold the girl for longer time without much damage.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2574787]Geez E that certainly didn't go as expected. Sounds like classic sibling rivalry to me which I guess was always a possibility. I am trying to picture the situation of naked twins trying to get your attention and then one says to the other hey sis lets chill for a while and have a drink with the intention of staying sober herself while her twin passes out. Not sure how exactly she expected that to work and as it turned out it seems it didn't. Then presumably because of something said or perhaps one of them made a move on you the other goes berserk and a full blown WFC rumble ensued. As I mentioned before E you live a very interesting life, reminds me of a great novel called "Last Exit To Brooklyn" As an aside which of them was ahead before the referee stepped in.[/QUOTE]The two were downing shots, then one started coughing and after a minute turned into Linda Blair, as in the Exorcist. The other sister claimed she knew how to deal with her, but she was drunk and it turned into a fight. I was able to deal with the situation, although the whacked out sister slept in the toilet.
I resolved to take the night off from drinking, on principle, tonight, but will go out for a massage.
Tomorrow night, the other sister will come over alone.
Note to all: I am posting about Pattaya as it is today under Covid restrictions. No, it's not like it was before Covid, and it won't be like this after the restrictions are lifted. It's different now, but still paradise for mongers.
Some have questions about the girls. It's apparent he is dealing with Bottom of the Pattaya Barrel.
Am I wrong? Hi light of every night is one Throw ing up.
On what Planet is this considered Fun.
People are bringing up examples from 10 years ago. What the Pluck. LOL.
Dateline Vegas. Mgm and venetian food courts absolutely packed on Wednesday June 30.
Did I say packed. Pre Covid never ever like this.
Pattaya will be back. Bangkok First. LOL.
Stop the Worrying. People have money and want fun.
The people that don't have money weren't travelling in the First place.
Shocked to read several country in EU consider Thai low risk. Thais can go to them no Problems.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2574989]Dateline Vegas. Mgm and venetian food courts absolutely packed on Wednesday June 30.
Did I say packed. Pre Covid never ever like this.
[/QUOTE]Food courts are packed now because people went to buffets and not food courts pre-COVID. Buffets have been closed in Vegas since early March, 2020. They are only slowly reopening now and not many are open yet or will reopen as a buffet.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2574989]Dateline Vegas. Mgm and venetian food courts absolutely packed on Wednesday June 30.
Did I say packed. Pre Covid never ever like this.
Pattaya will be back. Bangkok First. LOL.
Stop the Worrying. People have money and want fun.
The people that don't have money weren't travelling in the First place.
Shocked to read several country in EU consider Thai low risk. Thais can go to them no Problems.[/QUOTE]Are you in Vegas now? Are shields still up at tables? You going to try Thailand for the first time on your way back? Please tell how you get in! Thanks!
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2574911]Some have questions about the girls. It's apparent he is dealing with Bottom of the Pattaya Barrel.
Am I wrong? Hi light of every night is one Throw ing up.
On what Planet is this considered Fun.
People are bringing up examples from 10 years ago. What the Pluck. LOL.[/QUOTE]I get about 10 percent of the ladies who get too drunk, but that's why I invite 2 over.
As for the bottom of the barrel, not quite. You don't seem to realize that there are still thousands of ladies in Pattaya, but few customers. Since the alternative is going back to Isaan, many ladies are hanging in until October, although this means little money in the interim.
The Camel Toe pub opened today, although without alcohol.
It would be great if ladies like this came to my condo.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2574833]Note to all: I am posting about Pattaya as it is today under Covid restrictions. No, it's not like it was before Covid, and it won't be like this after the restrictions are lifted. It's different now, but still paradise for mongers.[/QUOTE]If anyone has thoughts about if it is worth the move from Bangkok, I'd thoroughly appreciate the advice. I have never been to Pattaya.
I'll make the move in a week or not at all. I've had a streak of bad luck, every new place I go goes into full lock-down when I get there. Bangkok started the worst of the worst exactly the moment I got out of quarantine into so-called "freedom" back in April. Now going back to that yet again is breaking me.
Anyone anticipate I'll have trouble getting there by taxi / hired car? I don't want to get a 14 day quarantine order, because I'm already basically quarantined in Bangkok as-is.
[QUOTE=Parasitius;2575188]If anyone has thoughts about if it is worth the move from Bangkok, I'd thoroughly appreciate the advice. I have never been to Pattaya.
I'll make the move in a week or not at all. I've had a streak of bad luck, every new place I go goes into full lock-down when I get there. Bangkok started the worst of the worst exactly the moment I got out of quarantine into so-called "freedom" back in April. Now going back to that yet again is breaking me.
Anyone anticipate I'll have trouble getting there by taxi / hired car? I don't want to get a 14 day quarantine order, because I'm already basically quarantined in Bangkok as-is.[/QUOTE]Roadblocks are being set up on roads around Bangkok right now.
From a public safety perspective, people from Bangkok should stay in Bangkok right now. The virus is spreading now due to people leaving Bangkok.
On a happier note, I went to Camel Toe today, and it was jammed with customers. There were some ladies, as well, including this one:
If only ladies like this would come to my place to drink with me.
😁.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575159]It would be great if ladies like this came to my condo.[/QUOTE]Are you being serious right now? I am probably one of the least pickiest guys around, but that looks like a dude.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575159]The Camel Toe pub opened today, although without alcohol.
It would be great if ladies like this came to my condo.[/QUOTE]I've already said you like the ladyboy look and I will bet you a barfine of any gogo girl in Pattaya that is a ladyboy / postop!
Been to Cameltoe many times and I have never seen anything close to a ladyboy/postop but I am certain this is one. On the contrary, Cameltoe had some hidden gems over the years making it worthwhile to walk to such an awkward location.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575221]I've already said you like the ladyboy look and I will bet you a barfine of any gogo girl in Pattaya that is a ladyboy / postop![/QUOTE]You would lose that bet.
She is a squirter, though.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575220]Are you being serious right now? I am probably one of the least pickiest guys around, but that looks like a dude.[/QUOTE]You can go to Camel Toe, check her out, and give us a report.
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Field report: I took 2 nights off as a break from heavy drinking, partially because I wanted to see if I had any cravings for alcohol. Nope.
The ladies will resume tomorrow night.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575224]You would lose that bet.
She is a squirter, though.[/QUOTE]Squirter or he took a leak?
If that's a girl that's one damn masculine looking lady! Glad I have the opposite taste in girls.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575159]The Camel Toe pub opened today, although without alcohol.
It would be great if ladies like this came to my condo.[/QUOTE]Thank god we all have different tastes, some like the taste of cock and some like the taste of pussy!
That's definitely a dude or at one time was! Squirting? You sure it's not a dude peeing! Good luck, stay safe!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575220]Are you being serious right now? I am probably one of the least pickiest guys around, but that looks like a dude.[/QUOTE]This explains a lot. LOL.
Guys I'm telling ya Straight from the Heart.
Hot Girls are not in abundance in Pattaya. LOL.
I'm afraid to even imagine what the other women Explorer8939 fucks look like if the women he posted photos of below are what he wishes would come to his apartment to fuck.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2575261]I'm afraid to even imagine what the other women Explorer8939 fucks look like if the women he posted photos of below are what he wishes would come to his apartment to fuck.[/QUOTE]Up to him.
[QUOTE=Fmojo;2575354]Up to him.[/QUOTE]
It certainly is! <scared emoji>
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2575251]Hot Girls are not in abundance in Pattaya. LOL.[/QUOTE]You're wrong. I know a lot of hot girls still in Pattaya. Starting to get some Line messages asking if I'm coming soon. Told them not coming to a 14 day quarantine and will be going to Europe where I don't have to quarantine.
Guess it was a good thing Explorer decided not to meet up with me. The girls I would have considered setting him up with look NOTHING like the one he is just posted.
Bit Siri
Data set is comprised of prostitoots.
Per Capita Pattaya how many qualify as Hot? Every 100 2. 5 are Hot.
Bangkok, 7 out of 100.
Big difference.
All the Hot country farm girls head to Bangkok. A few catch the wrong Bus and end up in Pattaya.
Not Bargirls.
Bangkok Bank employees-as a group- Hot or Not.
I swear their HR departments only hire good lookers. LOL.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2575251]
Hot Girls are not in abundance in Pattaya. LOL.[/QUOTE]DD, they are in Aestivation now.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2575261]I'm afraid to even imagine what the other women Explorer8939 fucks look like if the women he posted photos of below are what he wishes would come to his apartment to fuck.[/QUOTE]Remember we are not supposed to criticize other folks taste in women. As the French would say: "les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas".
It would have been maybe better if you sent him a private message instead.
No worries about comments from guys back home about my taste in women. I go for all kinds, and I am lucky to get some of the ladies to come over because they have too many customers.
The ladies in this poster mostly have too many customers to come over to my place.
I have been in Bangkok since the pandemic began and travelled to Pattaya dozens of times. 90% of all girls in both cities have basically gone. Very few new girls have come into town. You have to rely on contacts already in the phone. Some pickups from associates etc.
The super hotties, the top 5 girls in a gogo bar out of a staff of 100 etc that have been around for a year or 2 before corona are still some what busy. They probably don't earn what they used to but still get by on past customers. Some hook up with 1 decent customer to ride out the storm.
But a super hot chick usually has many options and unless you have a very special relationship with them they will want to get paid maybe a bit less than before but they won't come over for 1000. A smoking hot girl is never going to starve unless she has some other major issue drugs / personality issues etc.
My strategy with any in demand girls is to pay them more or less what I did before, maybe a little less, but get them to do a lot more. I have seen the same girls so many times since the pandemic started that they will basically do whatever you want now. If you are a regular now the customer service level has gone way up. Videos, Photos, Anal, whatever you are into is much more likely to be accommodated from the "A" group girls.
The be, see, the class girls are struggling for any work. These girls will come over the 1000 etc The see & the group struggled before the pandemic, now there is zero.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575493]The ladies in this poster mostly have too many customers to come over to my place.[/QUOTE]At least 4 of 5 of these are ladyboy / post-ops. 2nd from the left is the only one I can detect may be a girl from the photo however I can't say for sure until I see 2nd from the left walk and talk.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2575490]Remember we are not supposed to criticize other folks taste in women. [/QUOTE]It's also against board rules to post about ladyboys let alone post ladyboy photos. Do you think the photo Explorer posted was born a girl, Lefeu?
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2575220]Are you being serious right now? I am probably one of the least pickiest guys around, but that looks like a dude.[/QUOTE]That's because the ladies getting piss drunk in his condo bar every night are also dudes, just of a lesser quality I guess. That's is a dude, and the one before him.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575221]I've already said you like the ladyboy look and I will bet you a barfine of any gogo girl in Pattaya that is a ladyboy / postop![/QUOTE]You Lose! LOL. That's Tami, all female And born Female. I think she's 21, and has a Lady Gaga type face. She's normally working at Maggie May. BTW, Maggie May's owner bought Camel Toe. The ole CT owner is now the manager. CT opened up as a restaurant yesterday. I was told the ladies there are now from MM and CT.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575493]The ladies in this poster mostly have too many customers to come over to my place.[/QUOTE]Pla, I think, the one on the far left IS a LB. The one in the center might be. Tami is holding the shot rack. Far right is Honey, she's a babe. The second one, I don't know, looks like an older MILF, (to some.).
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2575560]You Lose! LOL. That's Tami, all female And born Female. I think she's 21, and has a Lady Gaga type face. She's normally working at Maggie May. BTW, Maggie May's owner bought Camel Toe. The ole CT owner is now the manager. CT opened up as a restaurant yesterday. I was told the ladies there are now from MM and CT.[/QUOTE]If that is the case then that mf is running a ladyboy look-alike bar/restaurant.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575221]Been to Cameltoe many times and I have never seen anything close to a ladyboy/postop On the contrary, Cameltoe had some hidden gems over the years.[/QUOTE]First time I visited Camel Tow, soon after they opened, I only found old ladies. One or two past expiration dates. They looked like mamasans. Returned to it this year on a bar crawl before the current closures. They had some nice ladies there, a few young ones too. Sadly, the bars were ordered closed before I could get to know those new ladies better. Fortunately, I got the LINE contact to one. Finally hooked up with her last night. OMG! 5 HR session with her. (I currently have my balls on ice. LOL) She's a 38 yo MILF, most of you guys would pass on her. I got her on repeat! :D
Lastly, the new owner brought LB's to MM and thus to CT. They're obvious. He also owns The Cave on LK Metro and Club Fate on Soi Boomerang, so LB's there. But majority in his bars are Female. His LB's also aren't pushy.
Give the guy a break, he has been the only one posting guys been eating up his post as soon as he post a photo guys are on him like white on rice. Whatever happens to " beauty is in the eye of the beholder " easier said than done! Shame on you guys these comments just show how jealous all of you are stuck outside.
Now I've done worse and I've done better years back I started to change like a box of chocolates I just never know what is going to suit my taste. I don't like venturing into GC or places like Cameltoe unless I'm meeting someone and when it comes to LB if that is your things go for it but I'm respectful to everyone unless you pressure me too much or get out of line if I know for sure they are LB working I never venture again that is just me.
Now back to the topic I don't know if the girl in the photo is an LB I would just say that is a bad photo because of her face but in the shower photo if that is her the body it is up to par as to what I like if it is in fact a woman. My rule of thumb if there is any doubt I pass!
Many of these owners like to provide a theme for their place of business as for Cameltoe if that is the case his hiring of her is spot on! Sorry, 555 couldn't help myself Enjoy!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2575615]Give the guy a break...[/QUOTE]Give the criticizers a break, they enjoy Explorer's reports as much as the other bloke. The pandemic has caused much stress and they're just venting. We are all grateful for ISG in these times.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2575623]Give the criticizers a break, they enjoy Explorer's reports as much as the other bloke. The pandemic has caused much stress and they're just venting. We are all grateful for ISG in these times.[/QUOTE]Just this once, If you were real you might read again I guess you missed it also venting I don't think ISG needs to be pushed by your reply.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPApYcH2oTo[/URL]
This is what I think of what explores females look like.
Nothing wrong with them just not a 3,000 baht girl in the bunch.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2575623]We are all grateful for ISG in these times.[/QUOTE]I do agree with you on this. Hoping once things open up we can get real reviews from guys actually in Thailand, including myself. I think Admin should just delete all posts from March, 2020.
Bit Siri.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2575655][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPApYcH2oTo[/URL]
This is what I think of what explores females look like.
Nothing wrong with them just not a 3,000 baht girl in the bunch.[/QUOTE]Irrelevant, since I am paying 1,000 baht.
Last night, I had a couple of ladies over, but they didn't mesh well. One was a cockblocker who intimidated the other lady. So, by 9 pm, I sent them home. I will have to separate that pair, and have them come over alone.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2575560]You Lose! LOL. That's Tami, all female And born Female. I think she's 21, and has a Lady Gaga type face. She's normally working at Maggie May. BTW, Maggie May's owner bought Camel Toe. The ole CT owner is now the manager. CT opened up as a restaurant yesterday. I was told the ladies there are now from MM and CT.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, she is too busy with customers to come to my place. I would jump on her, if I got a chance.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2575565]First time I visited Camel Tow, soon after they opened, I only found old ladies. One or two past expiration dates. They looked like mamasans. Returned to it this year on a bar crawl before the current closures. They had some nice ladies there, a few young ones too. Sadly, the bars were ordered closed before I could get to know those new ladies better. Fortunately, I got the LINE contact to one. Finally hooked up with her last night. OMG! 5 HR session with her. (I currently have my balls on ice. LOL) She's a 38 yo MILF, most of you guys would pass on her. I got her on repeat! :D
Lastly, the new owner brought LB's to MM and thus to CT. They're obvious. He also owns The Cave on LK Metro and Club Fate on Soi Boomerang, so LB's there. But majority in his bars are Female. His LB's also aren't pushy.[/QUOTE]To be clear, the ladies at Camel Toe now are not the same ladies as before the bar closed earlier this year.
Been wanting a nuru. Any recommendations that are available where I can currently get one?
Pattaya, Jomtien, or Bangsaray areas are ok.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575767]Last night, I had a couple of ladies over, but they didn't mesh well. One was a cockblocker who intimidated the other lady. So, by 9 pm, I sent them home. I will have to separate that pair, and have them come over alone.[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't you only send 1 girl home? You already paid 1000 so keep the one you want to stay the night. Why invite her back another time when she's already there! If they only stayed ST did you pay them the full 1000 baht LT rate?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575783]Why wouldn't you only send 1 girl home? You already paid 1000 so keep the one you want to stay the night. Why invite her back another time when she's already there! If they only stayed ST did you pay them the full 1000 baht LT rate?[/QUOTE]You mean I should have cut them back to 500 baht?
I was not really in the mood with these 2 ladies, so I sent them home. I'm not here for just 2 weeks, when every night counts, I am here for the duration.
So, the sister of my former long term barfine came over alone, and we spent a few hours rolling around on my sofa, drinking tequila, and watching music videos. At one point, she got up and started dancing Isaan style naked. After some time, her boyfriend came to pick her up.
She moved her schedule around to come back on Tuesday.
I guess I'm doing it wrong.
I can't emphasize enough that there just aren't that many customers in Pattaya. That means that ladies are available cheap.
The down side is that I feel like the kid in the Twilight Zone episode that terrorized a town due to his powers. Everyone walked on eggshells around him. I have the feeling that ladies know the next couple of months are going to be tough, so they are trying to get into my rotation, ev3 n if it makes their boyfriends sad.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575969]So, the sister of my former long term barfine came over alone, and we spent a few hours rolling around on my sofa, drinking tequila, and watching music videos. At one point, she got up and started dancing Isaan style naked. After some time, her boyfriend came to pick her up.
She moved her schedule around to come back on Tuesday.
I guess I'm doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong, just boring procedures.
Drink.
Drunk.
Naked.
Boyfriend pick up.
Each one has his own fun and YMMV but all this is, honestly, adding nothing to the forum.
A drunk girl in Pattaya is nothing new.
A naked girl in Pattaya is nothing special.
The presence behind the scenes of a Thai boyfriend is quite usual.
Wait a moment, there is something which is quite strange, being this the ISG: no mention of sex.
Is that what it is all about?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2575657]I do agree with you on this. Hoping once things open up we can get real reviews from guys actually in Thailand, including myself. I think Admin should just delete all posts from March, 2020...[/QUOTE]Except Explorer's.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575969]So, the sister of my former long term barfine came over alone, and we spent a few hours rolling around on my sofa, drinking tequila, and watching music videos. At one point, she got up and started dancing Isaan style naked. After some time, her boyfriend came to pick her up.
She moved her schedule around to come back on Tuesday.
I guess I'm doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]Not that I've read one of your post's that's been useful or smart, but just heads up it's not really smart to have the girls boyfriend picking her up at your place all the time, eventually this is going to bite you in the ass, sort of like the pic of the ladyboy, but way more pain! Be safe!
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2575974]Nothing wrong, just boring procedures.
A drunk girl in Pattaya is nothing new.
A naked girl in Pattaya is nothing special.
The presence behind the scenes of a Thai boyfriend is quite usual.
Wait a moment, there is something which is quite strange, being this the ISG: no mention of sex.
Is that what it is all about?[/QUOTE]Seems like a few guys have taken up MP habit of posting stories that resemble a penthouse forum story rather than a FR belonging on ISG, all we need now is the smooth criminal quote.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2575560]You Lose! LOL. That's Tami, all female And born Female. I think she's 21, and has a Lady Gaga type face. She's normally working at Maggie May. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Explorer8939;2575224]You would lose that bet.
She is a squirter, though.[/QUOTE]Did an informal poll. After 1 day votes are 19 to 3 this girl is a ladyboy / postop. I know that's a small sample size but those numbers are pretty conclusive. All the power to you guys for enjoying different looks.
Last night, I had over a lady who likes very light touching on her clitoris, whether a finger or tongue. She doesn't like penetration at all. Yeah, she really needs a Tom, not a man.
Tonight another lady is coming who lives with a Tom, but she likes to be finger fucked. Hard. Not just a finger, either. Her problem with Thai men is she likes it hard and fast, but not just for 3 minutes.
This is so confusing for me, I need index cards or something to remember all these ladies. Now I know how bargirls feel when they have a lot of regular customers and have to remember them all.
Anyway, I will enjoy as long as I can, until Thailand opens up, more customers come, and all these ladies desert me.
Another photo from the Camel Toe.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576252]Another photo from the Camel Toe.[/QUOTE]I got a coffee Brit buddy, we are always making bets about things I showed him your picture the first, shower this one including comments that she is a LB or not? At his age, he said he fucks anything fat, pigs, camels knows what a postop pussy looks like claims he is an expert so he and our other coffee buddies will head down there and check it out for me to get an answer I told them although the first shot wasn't appealing she isn't a LB?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2576286]I got a coffee Brit buddy, we are always making bets about things I showed him your picture the first, shower this one including comments that she is a LB or not? At his age, he said he fucks anything fat, pigs, camels knows what a postop pussy looks like claims he is an expert so he and our other coffee buddies will head down there and check it out for me to get an answer I told them although the first shot wasn't appealing she isn't a LB?[/QUOTE]I don't understand what you wrote, but if you are in Pattaya, you can go to Camel Toe and check her out yourself.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576252]Another photo from the Camel Toe.[/QUOTE]One of the mod's are going to get you for breaking the forums rules, I can't quote exactly but, I know their is no promotion of lady boys or pics of said lady boys, stay safe, also be careful if you play the drinking game with this one they seem to hit harder when pissed off, and knowing where you live might not be the best spot to bring this one!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576179]Last night, I had over a lady who likes very light touching on her clitoris, whether a finger or tongue. She doesn't like penetration at all. Yeah, she really needs a Tom, not a man.
Tonight another lady is coming who lives with a Tom, but she likes to be finger fucked. Hard. Not just a finger, either. Her problem with Thai men is she likes it hard and fast, but not just for 3 minutes.
This is so confusing for me, I need index cards or something to remember all these ladies. Now I know how bargirls feel when they have a lot of regular customers and have to remember them all.
Anyway, I will enjoy as long as I can, until Thailand opens up, more customers come, and all these ladies desert me.[/QUOTE]You seem to be the only farang on ISG banging Pattaya girls right now. Keep on keeping them warm for when the rest of us return.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2576356]You seem to be the only farang on ISG banging Pattaya girls right now. Keep on keeping them warm for when the rest of us return.[/QUOTE]There might be quite a few here who question the accuracy of the part about the girls.
[QUOTE=RacShack;2576347]One of the mod's are going to get you for breaking the forums rules, I can't quote exactly but, I know their is no promotion of lady boys or pics of said lady boys, stay safe, also be careful if you play the drinking game with this one they seem to hit harder when pissed off, and knowing where you live might not be the best spot to bring this one![/QUOTE]Other posters have verified she is a lady.
I am sorry if you are gender confused.
I had 3 ladies come over last night, a pair, and after they left, an overnighter.
The pair came early, and after a couple of hours, were hot to go. They were okay with getting fingered on the sofa, but I realized that I was killing myself trying to finger fuck two ladies at once, so I suggested we go into the bedroom (at least the bed would be more comfortable). But only one went, so I had a quickie with her, while the other waited. When I finished, the ladies changed places, and the second lady was sopping wet and screaming.
Back out to the sofa, both ladies went into roast chicken position for more fingering. But they had to go, because lady #3 was coming within the hour. They both got dressed (they were clearly mao at that point), and I showed them the door. 15 minutes later, I got a phone call, they got out the wrong floor and went out a locked door, so they were stuck, and they didn't know where they were. So, I found them, and took them out to the street, where they took a taxi home.
Lady #3 was much easier, just fuck and go to sleep. The only issue is that she wants to finish, after a long marriage to a Thai man where sex was 3 minutes. So it was a long fuck.
I am sorry if I am doing it wrong.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576308]I don't understand what you wrote, but if you are in Pattaya, you can go to Camel Toe and check her out yourself.[/QUOTE]I am in Pattaya, but how hard is it to understand " I have a few friends that[s their thing to go down and check it out for me " GC outdoor bars not my scene particularly ones that might have LB.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576252]Another photo from the Camel Toe.[/QUOTE]Where is it. Location please.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2576490]I am in Pattaya, but how hard is it to understand " I have a few friends that[stheirthingtogodownandcheckitoutforme"GCoutdoorbarsnotmysceneparticularlyonesthatmighthaveLB. [ / QUOTE].
I look forward to their report.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2576372]There might be quite a few here who question the accuracy of the part about the girls.[/QUOTE]I too am jealous of that farang banging so much beautiful Asian pussy.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2576372]There might be quite a few here who question the accuracy of the part about the girls.[/QUOTE]I'm concerned about girl Quality. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2576694]I too am jealous of that farang banging so much beautiful Asian pussy.[/QUOTE]Take a look at Chocolate Man in Thailand you tube content.
He puts images of the most unattractive girls on his thumbnails.
No interest in viewing his stuff. LOL.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2576694]I too am jealous of that farang banging so much beautiful Asian pussy.[/QUOTE]You are jealous (sic) I can believe that as its highly likely you have never even left the west, but it still doesn't stop you from posting comments about places you have never been to. Others like me who are now in Asia, and have been for the last 12 yrs, where fucking beautiful Asian pussy is as east as going out for a morning cafe, we don't get so easily envious. Note the use of the word envy rather than jealously, I believe in one of your posts you criticized another for not being a native English speaker.
So any useful reports here? I went to x, got x, paid x. Or maybe yet: This is how the scene is currently in Pattaya.
All I read here is a bunch of reports by angry boomers (don't worry, I'm aware I'm the boomer of the future) arguing with other about BS. Not so different from before Corona, but maybe the forum deserves better?
WHAT IS THE SCENE LIKE IN PATTAYA NOW? WHAT ARE THE PRICES? WHAT IS AVAILABLE?
Anyone get anything lately other than a hernia?
P.S: So much garbage covers weeks of pages, and then some prize asshole tells the first person that asks for substantive information to RTFF.
[QUOTE=AsiaJack;2576506]Where is it. Location please.[/QUOTE]It is located on Soi Kophai 10. Soi Khopai 10 can be found off Thepprasit Road. On the right side if you are driving down from Sukhumvit Road.
We look forward to your report soon.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2576901]So much garbage covers weeks of pages, and then some prize asshole tells the first person that asks for substantive information to RTFF.[/QUOTE]LOL this is what happens when you have a bunch of horny old men stuck without ladies to fuck. And then, someone posts some actual useful info, and people attack him for his taste in the ladies he chooses. If you're looking for actual field reports, I suggest you look at the phuket or Brazil forums. Other subs have turned pretty toxic. It'll probably be so until October, when Pattaya opens up, too.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2576901]So any useful reports here? I went to x, got x, paid x. Or maybe yet: This is how the scene is currently in Pattaya.
All I read here is a bunch of reports by angry boomers (don't worry, I'm aware I'm the boomer of the future) arguing with other about BS. Not so different from before Corona, but maybe the forum deserves better?
WHAT IS THE SCENE LIKE IN PATTAYA NOW? WHAT ARE THE PRICES? WHAT IS AVAILABLE?
Anyone get anything lately other than a hernia?
P.S: So much garbage covers weeks of pages, and then some prize asshole tells the first person that asks for substantive information to RTFF.[/QUOTE]The bars are closed. There is still an active online system (TF), but not so many customers. I am told that there are Streetwalkers on Beach Road (I will check them out next week). I saw streetwalkers on Soi Buakhow, but they were mostly ladyboys.
Many massage shops are open, and illicit oil massages and FS are available.
As you probably know, I go with ladies I know, but I pay pre-Covid prices.
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2576920]LOL this is what happens when you have a bunch of horny old men stuck without ladies to fuck. And then, someone posts some actual useful info, and people attack him for his taste in the ladies he chooses. If you're looking for actual field reports, I suggest you look at the phuket or Brazil forums. Other subs have turned pretty toxic. It'll probably be so until October, when Pattaya opens up, too.[/QUOTE]555555555555555555555555555555555555555.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576927]The bars are closed. There is still an active online system (TF), but not so many customers. I am told that there are Streetwalkers on Beach Road (I will check them out next week). I saw streetwalkers on Soi Buakhow, but they were mostly ladyboys.
Many massage shops are open, and illicit oil massages and FS are available.
As you probably know, I go with ladies I know, but I pay pre-Covid prices.[/QUOTE]Thank you explorer. This is helpful.
Sounds pretty dismal but perhaps good for the expats that are there. It's a buyers market.
From what I have been following online the last 15 months, you guys seem to open and close at regular intervals but each time without any tourists. What % of bars in Pattaya, % of gogo bars too separately, do you think have closed permanently compared to say January 2020?
I keep trying to follow it from here on here: http://www.pattayanewsflash.com/
But I'm losing track. Is walking street really done?
Can't believe it's now been this long.
How do people relying on tourism now survive over there?
I had a couple of ladies over last night who are usually too busy with customers to have an open evening. Unfortunately, things didn't go that well, the ladies were just not horny, and I don't push them if they aren't into it.
A lot of ladies come over and after a few drinks are as horny as hell. You would think that working girls would get laid a lot, but things are different in Pattaya, few customers, scarce money boys, so the opportunity to hook up with a man are not as frequent as you would imagine. Of course, top tier ladies get laid all the time, which is why I don't have them over. But the other ladies mostly get loose and horny and can't keep their hands off me, for a bunch of reasons.
I know the ladies who come over pretty well, who has a boyfriend or girlfriend, who has regular customers or not, and their actions with me are consistent with the amount of sex they have in Real Life. There are exceptions, as one lady has 2 regular customers but admits she is horny all the time.
Tonight, I am having a factory lady come over, along with the sister of my ex long term barfine. The factory lady has an off and on Thai boyfriend, whereas the sister has a live in Thai boyfriend who can’t fuck. What that means is the sister spends the evening worshipping my dick, which then motivates the factory lady to do the same, even though she is normally shy around me. But the sister is trying to maneuver me into an exclusive arrangement even though she has a boyfriend, WTF.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2576934]Thank you explorer. This is helpful.
Sounds pretty dismal but perhaps good for the expats that are there. It's a buyers market.
From what I have been following online the last 15 months, you guys seem to open and close at regular intervals but each time without any tourists. What % of bars in Pattaya, % of gogo bars too separately, do you think have closed permanently compared to say January 2020?
I keep trying to follow it from here on here: http://www.pattayanewsflash.com/
But I'm losing track. Is walking street really done?
Can't believe it's now been this long.
How do people relying on tourism now survive over there?[/QUOTE]It's hard to know what bars are closed permanently just walking around. Since nobody knows when bars can open, a lot of bar owners think they will be in business Real Soon now. Since their major expense now is rent, if they get a reduction, they can hang in there for some time more.
Walking Street owners have deep pockets, they can wait.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576936]I had a couple of ladies over last night who are usually too busy with customers to have an open evening. Unfortunately, things didn't go that well, the ladies were just not horny, and I don't push them if they aren't into it.
A lot of ladies come over and after a few drinks are as horny as hell. You would think that working girls would get laid a lot, but things are different in Pattaya, few customers, scarce money boys, so the opportunity to hook up with a man are not as frequent as you would imagine. Of course, top tier ladies get laid all the time, which is why I don't have them over. But the other ladies mostly get loose and horny and can't keep their hands off me, for a bunch of reasons.
I know the ladies who come over pretty well, who has a boyfriend or girlfriend, who has regular customers or not, and their actions with me are consistent with the amount of sex they have in Real Life. There are exceptions, as one lady has 2 regular customers but admits she is horny all the time.
Tonight, I am having a factory lady come over, along with the sister of my ex long term barfine. The factory lady has an off and on Thai boyfriend, whereas the sister has a live in Thai boyfriend who cant fuck. What that means is the sister spends the evening worshipping my dick, which then motivates the factory lady to do the same, even though she is normally shy around me. But the sister is trying to maneuver me into an exclusive arrangement even though she has a boyfriend, WTF.[/QUOTE]Fascinating. You know all of them or do you use an app to find them?
You invite them over at your home I'm guessing.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576938]It's hard to know what bars are closed permanently just walking around. Since nobody knows when bars can open, a lot of bar owners think they will be in business Real Soon now. Since their major expense now is rent, if they get a reduction, they can hang in there for some time more.
Walking Street owners have deep pockets, they can wait.[/QUOTE]Thank you. That's a fair answer. Must be confusing. Is it wrong to expect that Pattaya will look dramatically different from what we knew back end-2019?
I mean what does / did the made in thailand complex look like when you last saw it open?
Given the vaccination programme is so slow over there and cases are going up, would it be correct to assume that we won't be back until Q1 2022?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576670][QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2576490]I am in Pattaya, but how hard is it to understand " I have a few friends that[stheirthingtogodownandcheckitoutforme"GCoutdoorbarsnotmysceneparticularlyonesthatmighthaveLB. [ / QUOTE].
I look forward to their report. [ / QUOTE].
If you look for a report as you've been writing I wouldn't hold my breath! I join in a bit with the ribbing with the posting of the lady but I really have no problem but I guess a few felt the criticism was unwarranted but I was actually defending your choice and pointing out a message to others which it looks like they didn't get.
If you search I've stopped a long time ago chiming in about looks, prices, and what people like or don't like it is as people say " same shit different day " big difference just written by different people which I don't have a problem. People do want they want to do and people regardless of how much they write and even brag do pay a price trying to hunt down pussy. Your reports are nothing new happy to see you making a good situation out of a bad one but since you wanted a report or an answer you are a bit naive in you thinking about how the Thai brain works that's just my opinion again nothing wrong with the reports.
I settle here for a reason " I made my bed and now I sleep in it " bed here doesn't mean everyone is here 24/7 looking for pussy like you. When I first came full time I never envision my past would have so much to do with my future family and friends who live here urged me to write a book because they have never heard the stuff that I have gone through some say it is the worse Thailand has to offer I still remember the day the time when I came within seconds of dying my life was consumed with taking revenge.
So when you ask for a report the % of getting one like yours is slim and none that might surprise you for someone living here but there isn't anything you have done or will do that I haven't already today Thai pussy is the last thing on my mind but when I want it the last place is going to be in the tourist area in town.
Personally, whether a person is actually here in Thailand now isn't relevant the key is they have been the reason I respond less and less like many is because I've heard that many of the posters aren't even real made up handles guys never ever been to Thailand spending all their time researching YouTube and then writing fake reports what a joke! It reminds me of guys in grade school looking and reading books on pussy then claiming, talking as if they had some when they never even got closer to touch the clothes.
What is funny when it comes to criticism I know Mr. E is out of the country and then there is MonkeyPaw there is much to learn from these two not saying one has to be like them because they can't and shouldn't so they criticize rarely does anyone stand up for them not that they need help but a few innocent comments about a photo and we got this!
This all should be in the RANT, but you ask so you got! Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2576941]Fascinating. You know all of them or do you use an app to find them?
You invite them over at your home I'm guessing.[/QUOTE]I was a regular at their bar for a long time before Covid. Basically I am supporting a bunch of ladies for the duration, as their income is significantly diminished. They all know which of them I have barfined, and after some drinks, they tell me about their private lives, problems with their boyfriends, or bad customers. If they have a friend outside the bar, they will bring her, so my circle expands.
I never use apps to find women in Pattaya. I could have ladies here 24/7, there is no lack. Despite all the negativity, this is the best time I have had in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2576942]Thank you. That's a fair answer. Must be confusing. Is it wrong to expect that Pattaya will look dramatically different from what we knew back end-2019?
I mean what does / did the made in thailand complex look like when you last saw it open?
Given the vaccination programme is so slow over there and cases are going up, would it be correct to assume that we won't be back until Q1 2022?[/QUOTE]No guarantees on opening dates for Thailand, too many unknowns. I have to leave in September, and plan to come back in October, when they claim that Thailand will be open, but the virus doesn't care about their plans.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2576906]It is located on Soi Kophai 10. Soi Khopai 10 can be found off Thepprasit Road. On the right side if you are driving down from Sukhumvit Road.
We look forward to your report soon.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576964]No guarantees on opening dates for Thailand, too many unknowns. I have to leave in September, and plan to come back in October, when they claim that Thailand will be open, but the virus doesn't care about their plans.[/QUOTE]My apologies I think is in order? My response was prior to having my morning coffee whenever I see my daughter-in-law prior to my coffee I'm off to a shitty start. Thinking after your remark was more to wait for my friends to report from their visit to Camel Toe? If this was the case then my other remarks were overkill.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2576901]So any useful reports here? I went to x, got x, paid x. Or maybe yet: This is how the scene is currently in Pattaya.
All I read here is a bunch of reports by angry boomers (don't worry, I'm aware I'm the boomer of the future) arguing with other about BS. Not so different from before Corona, but maybe the forum deserves better?
WHAT IS THE SCENE LIKE IN PATTAYA NOW? WHAT ARE THE PRICES? WHAT IS AVAILABLE?
Anyone get anything lately other than a hernia?
P.S: So much garbage covers weeks of pages, and then some prize asshole tells the first person that asks for substantive information to RTFF.[/QUOTE]You have few street walkers. Beach road mainly but any soi you can find your luck almost anywhere just like before but no so many choice.
I would say 75% of girls on beach road are drug addicts. Mentally instable or alcoholic. Still can find one who is ok.
Jomtien beach end afternoon to late night have a few sometimes new ones (I rarely go to Pattaya since 2-3 months).
Price. Up to you!! Some offer directly 300-400-500.
Tf and tinder can be useful to find some others just waiting for theirs luck.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576964]No guarantees on opening dates for Thailand, too many unknowns. I have to leave in September, and plan to come back in October, when they claim that Thailand will be open, but the virus doesn't care about their plans.[/QUOTE]In my thinking after six months as the vaccination is completed on 50%population and along with herd immunity the rate of intensity of the epidemic will get diluted to minimum. Globally people will consider it as another form of influenza with few mutants at intervals.
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The two ladies tonight were fun for a while, and then it all went to hell.
After a few drinks, one of the ladies decided that the other lady's ass was irresistible and couldn't stay away from it. That didn't go well.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2577140]The two ladies tonight were fun for a while, and then it all went to hell.
After a few drinks, one of the ladies decided that the other lady's ass was irresistible and couldn't stay away from it. That didn't go well.[/QUOTE]Where's the Fun.
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[QUOTE=Horatio;2577155]You need a blog for your posts. Or maybe save up your thoughts until you have more of a story.[/QUOTE]LOL. I get what you are saying. He is like today I went to the grocery store to get stuff to make pina coladas and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like I passed by Burger King and saw a midget outside and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like people from Bangkok are in town for the weekend and two girls came over and got drunk. International Invite Women Over to Get Drunk Guide.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2577160]LOL. I get what you are saying. He is like today I went to the grocery store to get stuff to make pina coladas and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like I passed by Burger King and saw a midget outside and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like people from Bangkok are in town for the weekend and two girls came over and got drunk. International Invite Women Over to Get Drunk Guide.[/QUOTE]It's really becoming a joke. But you forgot the "sex" element making it "legitimate " to post here.
The girls get naked.
Can you image the achievement? Two girls at a time, barfined from Pattaya's bar, not only get drunk (there must be a whole population of drunk girls in Pattaya by now) but also get naked! Wow!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2576936]I had a couple of ladies over last night who are usually too busy with customers to have an open evening. Unfortunately, things didn't go that well, the ladies were just not horny, and I don't push them if they aren't into it.
A lot of ladies come over and after a few drinks are as horny as hell. You would think that working girls would get laid a lot, but things are different in Pattaya, few customers, scarce money boys, so the opportunity to hook up with a man are not as frequent as you would imagine. Of course, top tier ladies get laid all the time, which is why I don't have them over. But the other ladies mostly get loose and horny and can't keep their hands off me, for a bunch of reasons.
I know the ladies who come over pretty well, who has a boyfriend or girlfriend, who has regular customers or not, and their actions with me are consistent with the amount of sex they have in Real Life. There are exceptions, as one lady has 2 regular customers but admits she is horny all the time.
Tonight, I am having a factory lady come over, along with the sister of my ex long term barfine. The factory lady has an off and on Thai boyfriend, whereas the sister has a live in Thai boyfriend who cant fuck. What that means is the sister spends the evening worshipping my dick, which then motivates the factory lady to do the same, even though she is normally shy around me. But the sister is trying to maneuver me into an exclusive arrangement even though she has a boyfriend, WTF.[/QUOTE]You are so lucky giving all those horny pussies a good seeing to. You better bang as much as you can for after this pandemic is over there will be hordes of big dick farang banging those tiny Asian pussies like we used to pre covid.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2577147]Where's the Fun.[/QUOTE]That's my point, there wasn't a lot of fun, once one lady decided that playing with the other lady's ass was her fun.
So, there wasnt much fun for me, just boring stuff like a double hand job while I finger fucked one lady while she was climbing over me to play with the other ladys ass.
But, the reality is that not every “date” with a lady works out in Real Life.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2577180]It's really becoming a joke. But you forgot the "sex" element making it "legitimate " to post here.
The girls get naked.
Can you image the achievement? Two girls at a time, barfined from Pattaya's bar, not only get drunk (there must be a whole population of drunk girls in Pattaya by now) but also get naked! Wow![/QUOTE]There's lots of sex, I am mostly writing about what happens before, and why things in Pattaya are different from pre-Covid days.
If every post on this forum had to include full sex, posts here would be rare.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2577160]LOL. I get what you are saying. He is like today I went to the grocery store to get stuff to make pina coladas and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like I passed by Burger King and saw a midget outside and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like people from Bangkok are in town for the weekend and two girls came over and got drunk. International Invite Women Over to Get Drunk Guide.[/QUOTE]If Covid gets worse, it's just going to be one lady coming over. On Friday, I have just one lady coming over because she is worried about Covid.
[QUOTE=AsiaJack;2577005]You have few street walkers. Beach road mainly but any soi you can find your luck almost anywhere just like before but no so many choice.
I would say 75% of girls on beach road are drug addicts. Mentally instable or alcoholic. Still can find one who is ok.
Jomtien beach end afternoon to late night have a few sometimes new ones (I rarely go to Pattaya since 2-3 months).
Price. Up to you!! Some offer directly 300-400-500.
Tf and tinder can be useful to find some others just waiting for theirs luck.[/QUOTE]So you Jonesing for some decent lookers, are you tired of fugly, old, addicted, etc.
Please check out Pattaya Livestream Now.
One shift in Particular. Bella, Rainnie and May. Very pretty.
Also Pop, if you look real close her Face may be OK but she is quite Heavy. Hahaha. 250 pounds or so.
The rest are Explorer material I imagine.
These girls get quite a large number of drinks so if you are offended they aren't Drunk at the end please don't go there.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2577374]There's lots of sex, I am mostly writing about what happens before, and why things in Pattaya are different from pre-Covid days.
If every post on this forum had to include full sex, posts here would be rare.[/QUOTE]Then you should write on AA rather than on ISG.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2577592]Then you should write on AA rather than on ISG.[/QUOTE]He has to admit he has a problem first.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2577160]LOL. I get what you are saying. He is like today I went to the grocery store to get stuff to make pina coladas and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like I passed by Burger King and saw a midget outside and two girls came over and got drunk. Then the next day he is like people from Bangkok are in town for the weekend and two girls came over and got drunk. International Invite Women Over to Get Drunk Guide.[/QUOTE]Good stuff, E.
It'll be a #1 seller on the AA site.
I had 2 ladies over last night, but it was a dud. One was hot to go, the other not so much and was just a drag on everything. And the one who was horny kept talking about how much she was getting laid to the point it was becoming obnoxious. Anyway, I wrote off the night and sent them home early.
I did have a massage lady come over earlier in the day, and she gave me a special oil massage, which was nice. Damage was 200 baht + 300 tip.
Here’s a photo of some ladies drinking in Pattaya.
E8939,
F. why. I. Camel Toe, the report I got back from the ladies you mentioned and particularly the one that got you a number of negative comments wasn't an LB!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2577753]E8939,
F. why. I. Camel Toe, the report I got back from the ladies you mentioned and particularly the one that got you a number of negative comments wasn't an LB![/QUOTE]Here's another Camel Toe lady to investigate. Let's hope this doesn't trigger the types who are gender confused.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2577753]E8939,
F. why. I. Camel Toe, the report I got back from the ladies you mentioned and particularly the one that got you a number of negative comments wasn't an LB![/QUOTE]Well I am not fucking a chick that looks like a dude, the same as I am not fucking a dude that looks like a chick!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2577753]E8939,
F. why. I. Camel Toe, the report I got back from the ladies you mentioned and particularly the one that got you a number of negative comments wasn't an LB![/QUOTE]Was she just plain unattractive?
I not paid member can't see photo clear.
The epidemic is getting worse here, and there are reports of an imminent lockdown. If there is a curfew, that is going to impact my social life. I will probably be forced to have 1 lady come over for the night.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2577776]The epidemic is getting worse here, and there are reports of an imminent lockdown. If there is a curfew, that is going to impact my social life. I will probably be forced to have 1 lady come over for the night.[/QUOTE]Was hoping it got better before worse, oh theirs some questions waiting for you to answer in BKK tread, hopefully you can answer after you do days of research to get answers, it would help many board members out!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2577773]Well I am not fucking a chick that looks like a dude, the same as I am not fucking a dude that looks like a chick![/QUOTE]Can imagine fucking the chick that looks like a dude if its a good looking dude and she has a great body but I'll pass on the pre op dude that looks like a chick even if a beautiful chick. Might reconsider if post op and genuinely feminine I. E beautiful face and figure boobs and a nice pussy result from the op.
Now to make the critics happy:
I had a lady came over tonight who didn't want to drink, just fuck. So, that's what we did. She seemed hot to trot, wham, bang, etc.
Damage: 1600 baht.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2577771]Here's another Camel Toe lady to investigate. Let's hope this doesn't trigger the types who are gender confused.[/QUOTE]That's Honey, also from MM, and born Female. They had a birthday party for her at CT today.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2577930]That's Honey, also from MM, and born Female. They had a birthday party for her at CT today.[/QUOTE]Do you have first hand knowledge, or just passing along a rumor?
I am sure our gender confused posters want to know how sure you are.
This may shock you, but I have had conversations in English with Honey.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2577884]Now to make the critics happy:
I had a lady came over tonight who didn't want to drink, just fuck. So, that's what we did. She seemed hot to trot, wham, bang, etc.
Damage: 1600 baht.[/QUOTE]Man, you really got them wanking to that one.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2577952]Man, you really got them wanking to that one.[/QUOTE]If you want wanking material, I'm not your guy. I am just reporting from the front lines here in Pattaya on how to survive the epidemic. Since there are some posters who are critical because I don't report intercourse, tonight was their night. Tomorrow I will go back to my standard MO of a few hours of drinking before retiring to the bedroom.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2577944]Do you have first hand knowledge, or just passing along a rumor? I am sure our gender confused posters want to know how sure you are. This may shock you, but I have had conversations in English with Honey.[/QUOTE]First hand knowledge. I've spoken to her in English too. There will be another birthday party on the 23rd, iirc.
[QUOTE=JavaMan;2577997]First hand knowledge. I've spoken to her in English too. There will be another birthday party on the 23rd, iirc.[/QUOTE]I am not going to Camel Toe much. Usually for a quick lunch.
Maybe I will go over today for lunch.
I am moving to View Talay 6 later today for a short holiday from my condo. I plan to mainly have only one lady come over. Unfortunately, if the lady isn't coming for a quickie, or has plans to make me into her "boyfriend ", there isn't much in it for a lady to come over except for the small money I pay. It's much more fun for them to have 2 ladies, assuming they are okay together. 3 ladies are even more fun for them, but I can't control 3 ladies while drinking, it's hard to peel one off for sex, in front of her friends.
So, tonight, the sister of my ex-girlfriend is coming over. She stopped working due to Covid fears, so I am her only customer. Once she is drunk, her only thoughts are to get more drunk and to grab my dick and hold on for dear life.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2577865]Can imagine fucking the chick that looks like a dude if its a good looking dude and she has a great body but I'll pass on the pre op dude that looks like a chick even if a beautiful chick. Might reconsider if post op and genuinely feminine I. E beautiful face and figure boobs and a nice pussy result from the op.[/QUOTE]Would you re-consider if you knew for sure she was female?
I have to put a towel on my sofa under her, due to pussy juice leakage. No, it's not urine.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2578179]Would you re-consider if you knew for sure she was female?.[/QUOTE]Not sure I get the gist of your question. Androgynous looks and bodies can be alluring and sexual attraction for me is not a fixed set of physical attributes but a body with a snake as they call it here is outside my comfort zone.
(ex-Secret Garden) Soi Khopai 10,12°54'44.0"and 100°52'56.8"E. 8+ Ladies. Prices: _ Tel: 098-978-8708. Hours: 1 pm to late. [URL]http://lovepattayathailand.com/beer-bar/the-camel-toe/[/URL].
[QUOTE=AsiaJack;2576506]Where is it. Location please.[/QUOTE]
I am camping out at View Talay 6 for a few days.
I had the sister over last night, and she gave me a handjob for 2 hours, which I reciprocated. But, her boyfriend got impatient and arrived to pick her up at 08.30 pm. I ended up paying her 1600 baht for 5 hours, which is not too bad. Actually, she wanted to give me a handjob for 2 hours, which, for her, would be rubbing my dick. So, I showed her how to touch a man rather than just rub a dick.
I didn't finish with her since as soon as she left, I went out to Beach Road, and found a lady for 700 baht. She gave pretty good service, so I paid her 1000 baht.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2578309](ex-Secret Garden) Soi Khopai 10,1254'44.0"and 10052'56.8"E. 8+ Ladies. Prices: _ Tel: 098-978-8708. Hours: 1 pm to late. [URL]http://lovepattayathailand.com/beer-bar/the-camel-toe/[/URL].[/QUOTE]If you use Bolt, Camel Toe appears on their map.
Another evening of drinking and playing with the ladies, followed by a quickie from a Beach Road lady. I could get used to this.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2578639]Another evening of drinking and playing with the ladies, followed by a quickie from a Beach Road lady. I could get used to this.[/QUOTE]I'm Happy for you.
Since the ex-girlfriend's sister is coming over tonight, I won't be having intercourse because reasons. Can do everything else, though. She is having a fight with her Thai boyfriend so there is a small chance she will make a play to be my girlfriend, I hope not.
Anyway, I got a message from a massage lady that she had some free time this morning, so I had her come over for a morning fuck.
After the sister leaves, I will probably go to Beach Road to have a nightcap.
About the sister: for a Thai lady, she has a wonderful ass. I think some other ladies come over with her just to see it. Great ass in all 3 dimensions, which is rare here. There are loads of MILFs here with no hips, or spinners with flat asses.
However, her "twin" sister has a better ass. One of the ways that I know they are not identical twins is that my ex has a pelvis that is different, maybe an inch bigger in the right places. I will have to wait for her to come over tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2578848].....However, her "twin" sister has a better ass. One of the ways that I know they are not identical twins is that my ex has a pelvis that is different, maybe an inch bigger in the right places. I will have to wait for her to come over tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Have you done the twins together? Menage a twins?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2578977]Have you done the twins together? Menage a twins?[/QUOTE]Not a chance of fucking one in front of the other, although I have had them naked at the same time.
The sister danced on my dick while naked tonight, but I didn't fuck her. But I went out and scored a 1000 baht Beach Road lady. So all's well that ends well.
I have been with so many ladies that my dick is a bit raw. But, I will soldier on.
My ex came over as a barfine (I paid 2000 baht for an overnighter). But she wanted a massage, so she arranged for a massage lady to come to the condo. She got a massage, and then I was next. The massage lady gave me the basic oil massage, then out of nowhere, she gave me an external prostate massage and then my balls. I was good with that. She also massaged the base of my dick like it was part of the oil massage.
After she left, my ex spent the night trying to impress me. Sexy lingerie, long blow job, etc.
But I had an early phone call in the morning, so it was just a regular fuck for me and then sleep.
Now it's the AM, and I am back to my regular condo soon. I got a message from one of my ladies for tonight, one of her friends is broke and wants to come over tonight. I can't have 3 ladies at my place, so I told her the lady can come another day. Maybe she will come on Wednesday if the lady scheduled to come with my ex flakes out. But, the epidemic is making everyone poorer, and there are fewer ladies flaking out.
Everything in Chonburi is supposed to close now at 9 pm, which is going to create more poverty.
I am going to try to mix and match ladies tonight who don't know each other. This may be a bit problematic.
They are both older, one is a factory worker, the other is a bargirl who is living off 2 half time sponsors. The latter lady claims to be horny all the time, and gave me a BJ in front of my ex a couple of weeks ago. The factory lady has a crappy Thai boyfriend who blows his money on gambling, but she can't quit him due to the economy. Since factories are opening and closing all the time now, her employment status is murky. With her age and relative poverty, she may not be able to latch on to a new Thai man so easily.
As I mentioned before, my dick is overused, so if things don't progress tonight, it won't be a disappointment.
Bingo.
The matching of the two older ladies worked beyond my wildest dreams. After a few drinks, they were both horny as hell.
One of them (the factory worker) had commented to me many times in the past that she had never cum before. Well, tonight she came 3 times. While I licked her clit, the other lady finger fucked her while they were kissing and rolling around the bed (not so easy for me). There was so much screaming I thought the police would come. Afterwards, we went back to the living room sofa, and a second round began.
Basically, there was a few hours of ladies pleasuring each other while giving me blow jobs, moving back and forth between the sofa and the bed. It took a while but the factory lady started after the other lady, spread her legs and alternated between licking her pussy and fondling her tits and kissing.
Unfortunately, one of the ladies tried the "I'm your girlfriend " routine, claimed she loved me for a couple of years. But, this is Thailand, so you know what that means. But, I avoided that issue. There is a story behind that, but I will skip it. Bottom line: if you are in Pattaya for a long time, you have a big advantage over the vacationers who show up for two weeks and never come back.
As we wrapped up, one lady gave me the "I never do that before" routine, and then they made plans to come back next week.
On Thursday, I have another quasi-Tom coming, one I have known for a long time. She likes to do a lezzie show in the bar when it's open, we'll see how she does in private.
Who's coming tomorrow? My ex and another lady who I have known for years, a former cashier at Annie Bar on Soi Chaiyapoon. This lady is generally sponsored up, so I will see why she has a free night. I have barfined her many times before Covid, she has spectacular fucking skills, her vagina can grab your dick, and she is the only lady who fucked me until I came and then didn't stop until I came again.
Okay, it's another day in Paradise. As I mentioned before, I don't use ThaiFriendly, but I am in touch with many ladies on Facebook Messenger. It's not unusual that a lady will ping me in the morning if she needs money and will do a quick fuck. If I have time in my schedule, I will let her come over for a quickie. So, I have a lady coming over at noon for ST, and then my regularly scheduled appointment at 3 Pm for two ladies.
I almost contact a lady to hook up, I wait for them to ping me.
There are more than 500 new infections today in Chonburi, so we may see a heavy lockdown soon. If everything closes, I will have to do 2 ladies a day to keep them from starving, at least those without customers.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2579917]... If everything closes, I will have to do 2 ladies a day to keep them from starving, at least those without customers.[/QUOTE]Your concern for the ladies is very touching.
A bad night.
I had my ex over with another lady who I have known for many years. At their request, I took them to the most expensive restaurant in Pratumnak, and then we went to my condo.
After some drinking, the lady said she wanted to leave. No problem, I paid her and off they went, out the door. And then I heard a bump outside. I opened the door, and the two ladies were on the floor, and one was bleeding heavily.
So, it was off to the hospital. She was complaining all the time, but got stitched up. I paid for the damages, 5000 baht, and for a taxi to take her home. At that point, she was upset because she thought I didn't pay her. She went into her room in a huff. I hope she finds the money tomorrow.
Mai pen rai, I went home. , but it was a busted evening. I got laid earlier in the day, so I won't die.
My point here is that even in paradise, not every day is super.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2579999]Your concern for the ladies is very touching.[/QUOTE]The situation is not good in Pattaya, what would you do if you were here?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2580019]The situation is not good in Pattaya, what would you do if you were here?[/QUOTE]I'll tell you what most of us would definitely not be doing.
Inviting ladies over, taking them to /"the most expensive restaurant" bringing them back for drinks. Then paying them before they leave.
What in the world is going on?
[QUOTE=DazeUp;2580151]I'll tell you what most of us would definitely not be doing.
Inviting ladies over, taking them to /"the most expensive restaurant" bringing them back for drinks. Then paying them before they leave.
What in the world is going on?[/QUOTE]You pay them *after* they leave?
In my case, the two ladies were my ex, and another lady who I have known for years. You may be a little confused because I am not in Pattaya for 2 weeks, I live here, so I don't treat ladies I have known for a long time like I just picked them up on Beach Road.
It’s the next morning, and, as usual, the ladies left stuff here, underwear and unidentifiable clothing. I could open a clothes shop with what is left at my place.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2580178]You pay them *after* they leave?
In my case, the two ladies were my ex, and another lady who I have known for years. You may be a little confused because I am not in Pattaya for 2 weeks, I live here, so I don't treat ladies I have known for a long time like I just picked them up on Beach Road.
Its the next morning, and, as usual, the ladies left stuff here, underwear and unidentifiable clothing. I could open a clothes shop with what is left at my place.[/QUOTE]Yes I am confused as you state that you have known one of these ladies for years and that you live there so it would be natural to conclude that you have been living in Pattaya for years but if I recall correctly that it wasn't even one year ago when you pasted asking where to find girls if the bars and gogos were closed in Pattaya and saying that you were in quarantine.
I had two new ladies come over tonight, an older lady who I have known for years, and a younger, but heavier lady with big tits.
After a couple of drinks, they were ready to go, and we played for 3 hours, most BJs, and lick jobs from me. Surprisingly, the older lady was shy about getting her pussy licked by the younger lady, since the older lady used to be aggressive with the other ladies. Go figure. But the older lady was all about getting her pussy licked. About every 15 minutes, she would spread her legs and ask for more.
The younger lady told me she was ticklish down there, so I mostly stayed away, just fingerings her while she gave me a BJ.
I gathered that most of the customers for these ladies are married guys looking for a quick BJ, so tonight was a bit of a change up for them.
Anyway, it was hours of fun for small money, so I can't complain.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2580337]I had two new ladies come over tonight, an older lady who I have known for years, and a younger, but heavier lady with big tits.
After a couple of drinks, they were ready to go, and we played for 3 hours, most BJs, and lick jobs from me. Surprisingly, the older lady was shy about getting her pussy licked by the younger lady, since the older lady used to be aggressive with the other ladies. Go figure. But the older lady was all about getting her pussy licked. About every 15 minutes, she would spread her legs and ask for more.
The younger lady told me she was ticklish down there, so I mostly stayed away, just fingerings her while she gave me a BJ.
I gathered that most of the customers for these ladies are married guys looking for a quick BJ, so tonight was a bit of a change up for them.
Anyway, it was hours of fun for small money, so I can't complain.[/QUOTE]In an earlier post you asked what I would do in Pattaya if I were you. Well, I would do what you have stated above but in addition to that I would give those pussies some good turgid dick. Of course, being concerned with sustainable economic growth I would not neglect to do my part to secure their financial stability.
Pattaya, Day 1!
Arrived into Pattaya about 4 pm after an unevental flight into BKK and a Bolt down. Annoyingly, the host of my condo put the pin on the location about a 20 minute walk away from where it actually was. I travel light, so no bother to walk and it gave me a chance to look around. Pattaya is 100% busier than Patong. By happy circumstance, the location of the actual condo was way more central to the real action.
I like the location, but condo is a little basic. There's no frigging blinds over the sliding doors to the balcony so action is confined to the bedroom. I like a little more. Variety. Going to look into moving to a different one in the same building.
Arrived, nipped out for basic supplies, freshened up and went out to meet the inimitable MonkeyPaw from this very forum. We'd been in touch for a couple of days and he'd already provided me with some very good advice that helped out a Thailand cherryboy.
Mr Paw was five minutes away from me, so we met in the lobby of my building. Really cool, friendly guy who was a font of information on the current scene in Pattaya and just mongering in general.
We walked around a little so he could show me the streets where the action is at the moment (massage shops and girls just hanging out), then he took me to the 'hub'. A little night-market / foodcourt called Tree Town. We sat for a bit while I ate, Mr. Paw with his encylopedic knowledge of the working girls of Pattaya pointing them all out to me. I was gathering a fair amount of interest, being the new white guy on the scene.
Mr. Paw had to leave for a date, so I was solo. Went for another little walkaround, then back to Tree Town to hang out for a while. Nothing much came of hanging around. I was too tired and experiencing a little 'culture shock' after how quiet Phuket was comparatively. He'd explained that Pattaya was under a light 'lockdown', all business shutting by 9 pm (compared to 11 pm in Phuket.) But you're still allowed to be out, walking around. After nocturnal activities in Phuket with not much sleep, getting up early and travelling all day, I was tired. But I didn't want to waste my first night in Pattaya. MonkeyPaw had very kindly sent me the Line contact of a couple of girls he was brushing off. The first, Rain, a 21 year old little spinner, responded to my 'Hi, I in Pattaya' in about five seconds flat. After a few standard questions back and forth; "1200 for one hour, yes?" "Ok, I come now. ".
I was five minutes walk away from my condo. And she beat me there. Age looked correct. Pretty enough, 151 cm, 39 kg and very tight. I quizzed her a little on her age and she initially said '19. ' I said, 'You said 21. ' She laughed and gave a big grin, 'Sometimes 19, sometimes 21. '.
She'd arrived very casually dressed in a little white tanktop, denim short shorts and a tiny white cotton thong. Think Katy Perry 'California Girls. ' I find this look very sexy. When you arrive to see a girl in the UK they're normally wearing some cheap and gaudy lingerie / stripperwear outfit, even if you request different (at the cheaper end of the market.).
Shower each, to the bedroom. She was laughing at me in the shower with my boner sticking out in front of me ('So horny already!
Bedroom, some light French Kissing, then she went down for a BBJ. Decent, but not outstanding. During, I'm exploring her tight little body, taking my time. When I get to her pussy, she stops the BJ and says, 'Need gel. ' She's tight and not wet.
No we don't, sweetie.
Throw her onto her back and go down. Pretty, perfect little pussy. A good ten / fifteen minutes of oral attention and she's squirming around, soaking wet and grinding into my tongue, going 'Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck'. When she comes, I feel her clamp down on the three fingers I've got in her and her tight little body goes rigid.
I go up to lie next to her while she pants and show her my soaked fingers, 'See? Not need gel. '.
On with the condom, enter her in missionary. I start with long, slow, deep strokes. And she's got her hands down, hooked under her knees, opening herself up wider for me. Love that. Again, UK, cheap-end of the market Romanians, they'll do weird things with their legs and hands to try and stop you fucking them so deep. Getting faster, there's a lewd, wet 'slap' every time I slam into her. She's really, really that wet. When I'm close to cumming, I pull out, rip off the condom and unload all over her flat little belly.
Shower together, her soaping me up and washing me down. She spends a lot longer in there than I do (I love how hygenic these Thai girls are), then she comes out and dresses. We sit on the couch for a while, flirting and talking. And she doesn't seem to be in that much of a hurry to leave.
Tired, so kick her out and I'm fast asleep by 11 pm.
Today, my plan is to get a girl over before lunchtime, taking full advantage of the easier logistics here. Then I'm going to get my bearings a little better in the daylight, explore new accomadation options. In the evening, I'm going to take MP's advice and hang out at Tree Town again, take a stroll down Beach Road to check out the scene there. If nothing comes of that, or my mind changes. I've got a couple of prospects on TF I want to try that I've videochatted. One cute, smiley as fuck 18 year old has definitely piqued my interest.
Selection on Beach Road is not too good these days. I haven't been to Tree Town yet to check out the talent, maybe I will try it next week.
There are much fewer ladies available now, but those who are around are extremely appreciative of customers. I am getting real GFE from a very high percentage of ladies.
There were 171 new cases in Pattaya alone yesterday, proportionately higher than Bangkok. I expect further restrictions soon. It's almost time to start panic buying of supplies. I am hopeful that there won't be a hard curfew or, if there is one, that it doesn't start at sunset.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2580182]Yes I am confused as you state that you have known one of these ladies for years and that you live there so it would be natural to conclude that you have been living in Pattaya for years but if I recall correctly that it wasn't even one year ago when you pasted asking where to find girls if the bars and gogos were closed in Pattaya and saying that you were in quarantine.[/QUOTE]I was locked out of Pattaya in 2020 when the virus first hit, and couldn't get back until almost February of this year. Then, I had to go back to the US for a month in March. So, I lost touch with the Pattaya scene at the point when the bars were closed.
I am sorry if my schedule is confusing to you.
This may give you a headache: last September, I blew the bolts on the US, flew to Germany and met with 2 Thai ladies who I barfined for 4 months. We traveled to Turkey, Dubai, Ukraine, with some return stops in Turkey again. I am sure you will have nits to pick about that.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2580352]In an earlier post you asked what I would do in Pattaya if I were you. Well, I would do what you have stated above but in addition to that I would give those pussies some good turgid dick. Of course, being concerned with sustainable economic growth I would not neglect to do my part to secure their financial stability.[/QUOTE]Right now, there are only 2 ladies I am fucking regularly. But, as time progresses, I may do more.
I don't normally fuck the ladies that come in pairs, because I pay them so little, but also because I like GFE, and it's hard to get GFE from two ladies. I let the ladies do what they want to do, about the only direction I give is when things get too hectic for the sofa, so we go into the bedroom.
It's interesting watching their reaction to pussy licking, at first they are hesitant, then they start to encourage me, and then they demand it.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580562]Pattaya, Day 1!
Today, my plan is to get a girl over before lunchtime, taking full advantage of the easier logistics here. Then I'm going to get my bearings a little better in the daylight, explore new accomadation options. In the evening, I'm going to take MP's advice and hang out at Tree Town again, take a stroll down Beach Road to check out the scene there. If nothing comes of that, or my mind changes. I've got a couple of prospects on TF I want to try that I've videochatted. One cute, smiley as fuck 18 year old has definitely piqued my interest.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your continued diligence in the reports!
Pattaya, Day 2, Part One.
My plan of getting a girl before lunchtime didn't plan out. It was 12:30 pm before one turned up.
I'd used tfmi before leaving Phuket to screen for girls who did anal and had good reviews. It wasn't specifically something I was searching for today, but by happy accident she was the quickest to respond. Despite there being no real nightlife as far as I'm aware, like in Phuket the girls stay up late and sleep into the afternoon. Up all night camwhoring and chatting to horny Europeans and Yanks.
She arrived promptly on time and. Wow. 24 years old, 5'4 and 90 lbs. Not an ounce of fat on her, no boobs to speak off and all of her height was in her legs. The adjective is 'coltish. ' She said she'd lost some weight recently and I believed her. Her little jean shorts were dangling off her hips. Facially, very pretty and she reminded me of a girl I went to uni with and desperately wanted to fuck.
My tastes are pretty varied. They start and end with 'not fat, not ugly', so I was happy.
Profile stated '100% submissive' and this proved to be the case, letting me just bend her around and throw her about. Some light french kissing to start, exploring her body and stripping her off. Went down on her and got her nice and wet, then it was my turn for a BBJ. Absolutely stellar. She was gagging on me, drooling all over it and deepthroating. No complaints when I grabbed her hair and started to fuck her face. Submissive. I'm not usually a huge fan of oral when there's other things on offer, but the temptation was to cum right down her throat.
Resisted, on with the condom, pushing her into head down arse up doggy. I had intended for normal sex, but with that pretty little arsehole winking at me. I had no choice. How often do you get to fuck a pretty, long and lean stunner in the arse?
So after a while of fucking her pussy, it was out with the lube, lubing her up and warming up her arsehole. So tight. I couldn't get two fingers into her and as I've said, small hands and fingers for a man.
Lubed myself up and tried to enter her. Position was just all wrong. She had looooong thighs. So I pushed her down on her side. In position, pressing up against her and jesus, still tight. My usual reticence to be 'forceful' was overcome by how submissive she was. And like a good girl, she literally bit the pillow as I forced myself into her.
I'd kamagra'd up, so I took a while to cum despite how tight she was. As I'm pounding away, she's contorting that lean body, rubbing at her clit. And turning her head back to kiss me. She really seems to get off on anal.
When I cum, we just stay locked together for about five minutes, panting. And I can feel her 'twitching' around me.
Showered together, soaping eachother up and off, post-match chit-chat and she was off. Maybe stayed just over an hour.
I paid 2000. In text communication, she was firm at 1500 for normal sex, 2000 for ass. (To the point where when I pushed harder, she said 'Ok bye. ') Maybe if I'd held out I'd have got her for less, but I really, really wanted to fuck at the time.
One weird thing I noticed was her text communication just 'felt' like it was with someone who spoke English to a decent standard and wasn't just using Google Translate, but when she arrived we were at speaking slowly and very simple broken sentences. MonkeyPaw had mentioned the phenomenon of farang papasans pimping out their girls. So maybe that's what happened.
Doesn't matter, in the end, happy result.
Heading out again when the heat has died off, looking for girl two!
Find attached the only picture of Little Miss Long and Lean I took.
Fantastic reporting j janni! Keep it up!
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580649]Pattaya, Day 2, Part One.
One weird thing I noticed was her text communication just 'felt' like it was with someone who spoke English to a decent standard and wasn't just using Google Translate, but when she arrived we were at speaking slowly and very simple broken sentences. MonkeyPaw had mentioned the phenomenon of farang papasans pimping out their girls. So maybe that's what happened.
[/QUOTE]Glad you made it safely from Phuket.
I woke up this morning to the news that the EU has red-listed TH. Delighted to see that I don't have to cancel my trip as the Irish gov do not require quarantining of the fully vaxxed, so I am still a go for Aug 5th.
Just regarding Google Translate, I am amazed at the improvements on this since I first used it. I recall the first time I used it, signing off as "John". The people who did the original programming of this were clearly using US vernacular and it translated as "Toilet". Please! I've heard all the jokes about "Perhaps you were talking shit".
Anyway, I learned very quickly that before you use GT, you need to reverse the translation back to English to see if the translation represents what you wanted to say, and would frequently have to modify the original English text sometimes 4 or 5 times.
I was chatting with a girl on TF yesterday and got her email address because her English was a bit suspect. I did a cut and paste in Thai to go below each para of English text. I was pleasantly surprised at how few modifications I had to make. I can well imagine that GT is now near a standard that will easily fool most of us into thinking that we are dealing with someone with fluent English skills.
I had a bad one tonight. One lady came over, but her damned cellphone kept ringing. It was the boyfriend, a customer from her day job, and a friend calling about lottery numbers. Ringing every 10 minutes, and continual ringing if she didn't answer.
Rather than tell her to turn off her phone, I told her to get out.
I just wasn't in the mood.
[QUOTE=Dublin12;2580675]Glad you made it safely from Phuket.
I woke up this morning to the news that the EU has red-listed TH. Delighted to see that I don't have to cancel my trip as the Irish gov do not require quarantining of the fully vaxxed, so I am still a go for Aug 5th.
Just regarding Google Translate, I am amazed at the improvements on this since I first used it. I recall the first time I used it, signing off as "John". The people who did the original programming of this were clearly using US vernacular and it translated as "Toilet". Please! I've heard all the jokes about "Perhaps you were talking shit".
Anyway, I learned very quickly that before you use GT, you need to reverse the translation back to English to see if the translation represents what you wanted to say, and would frequently have to modify the original English text sometimes 4 or 5 times.
I was chatting with a girl on TF yesterday and got her email address because her English was a bit suspect. I did a cut and paste in Thai to go below each para of English text. I was pleasantly surprised at how few modifications I had to make. I can well imagine that GT is now near a standard that will easily fool most of us into thinking that we are dealing with someone with fluent English skills.[/QUOTE]Concerning Google Translate, I get best results if I write in bar girl English.
But, there are some concepts that the Thai language doesn't recognize, so I have to break down English sentences into two different sentences.
[QUOTE=Dublin12;2580675]
I woke up this morning to the news that the EU has red-listed TH. Delighted to see that I don't have to cancel my trip as the Irish gov do not require quarantining of the fully vaxxed, so I am still a go for Aug.[/QUOTE]Hoping against hope the UK reclassified Thailand as red. 2 week, 1700 quid hotel quarantine.
Great excuse to duck out of my best mate's wedding and hang out here for the rest of the year. Not due back to work till December or early January.
You'll have to forgive me, but as a double vaccinated with MRNA 32 year old who goes to the gym, covid holds zero fear for me.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580649]Profile stated '100% submissive' and this proved to be the case, letting me just bend her around and throw her about.
Find attached the only picture of Little Miss Long and Lean I took.[/QUOTE]I've seen a few profiles stating 100% submissive on TF and all of them looked like obvious ladyboys pretending to be females.
Also taking in account that she was tall and skinny with almost no boobs which is rather an LB attribute in Thailand even though we can find some real girls like that, but the big majority of Thai girls are not.
That's maybe the reason why she prefers to be fucked in the ass, though the picture you shared doesn't look like an obvious LB from what we can see.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580714]Hoping against hope the UK reclassified Thailand as red. 2 week, 1700 quid hotel quarantine.
Great excuse to duck out of my best mate's wedding and hang out here for the rest of the year. Not due back to work till December or early January.
You'll have to forgive me, but as a double vaccinated with MRNA 32 year old who goes to the gym, covid holds zero fear for me.[/QUOTE]The good news is that a few weeks ago, Bojo said those who had been fully vaxxed would have unlimited access to travel. The bad news is that when he said it, his lips were moving.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2580679]...Rather than tell her to turn off her phone, I told her to get out....[/QUOTE]That was harsh. I take it she was not a looker.
[QUOTE=Dublin12;2580731]The good news is that a few weeks ago, Bojo said those who had been fully vaxxed would have unlimited access to travel. The bad news is that when he said it, his lips were moving.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm in awkward situation with my vaccination.
It's going to be easier to go and get double jabbed again than crawl through the byzantine bureaucracy of getting the NHS to recognise my jabs, despite having a CDC vaccine card and a supporting letter from an MOD doctor.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580739]Yeah, I'm in awkward situation with my vaccination.
It's going to be easier to go and get double jabbed again than crawl through the byzantine bureaucracy of getting the NHS to recognise my jabs, despite having a CDC vaccine card and a supporting letter from an MOD doctor.[/QUOTE]Probably in the next say 3 months there will be tests to verify that you have been jabbed. In case they don't accept your paper work. Easier enough to do, just test for antibodies and get the test certified. I think this will be standard at some airports if you cannot prove you have been jabbed to the satisfaction of their requirements.
[QUOTE=Dublin12;2580816]As you've got a few days before you move on, you might want to try the British Honorary Consul in Pattaya. There is an email address for him here: [URL]https://www.embassypages.com/unitedkingdom-consulate-pattaya-thailand[/URL].
Drop him a line. Explain the prob and you'll probably get an answer in two or three days.[/QUOTE]Sorry but that post should have been for Jjanni.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580739]Yeah, I'm in awkward situation with my vaccination.
It's going to be easier to go and get double jabbed again than crawl through the byzantine bureaucracy of getting the NHS to recognise my jabs, despite having a CDC vaccine card and a supporting letter from an MOD doctor.[/QUOTE]As you've got a few days before you move on, you might want to try the British Honorary Consul in Pattaya. There is an email address for him here: [URL]https://www.embassypages.com/unitedk...ttaya-thailand.[/URL].
Drop him a line. Explain the prob and you'll probably get an answer in two or three days.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2580734]That was harsh. I take it she was not a looker.[/QUOTE]Very nice lady, but I couldn't handle her doing business on the telephone every few minutes. The last time she came, her boyfriend started calling her constantly when he got tired of waiting for her.
She has promised to turn off her cellphone when she comes over next time. I posted about the incident on Facebook, so the ladies understand that they can’t be playing cellphone while I am fucking them. Actually, I don’t mind if they talk to their Farang boyfriends while I fuck them.
Meanwhile, it looks like Pattaya is going into further restrictions including closing restaurants. That could be the end of TreeTown for a while.
I am considering doubling up the ladies, having them come over in 2 shifts.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2580724]I've seen a few profiles stating 100% submissive on TF and all of them looked like obvious ladyboys pretending to be females.
Also taking in account that she was tall and skinny with almost no boobs which is rather an LB attribute in Thailand even though we can find some real girls like that, but the big majority of Thai girls are not.
That's maybe the reason why she prefers to be fucked in the ass, though the picture you shared doesn't look like an obvious LB from what we can see.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it was a risk. But one I'm glad I took! I was fully prepared to send her packing if she'd turned out to be a LB, but I was 100% confident she wasn't when I heard her voice, saw her face and got her kit off.
Proof is in the pudding, so to speak. Designer vaginas don't self lubricate and she got plenty wet.
[QUOTE=DannyDuck;2580768]State of girl looks in Thailand. Forever girls that show up on sites like these are usually Dark skin, not the best of lookers. Nothing that would excite one to say I need to be there. LOL.
On the Ground a lot Better can be had. It's true you need to search a bit but So What.
P.S. Be prepared to spend. Not a ton,. But a Fair amount.[/QUOTE]Different strokes for different folks, friend. If I wanted to fuck girls with light skin, I would have stayed in Europe.
[QUOTE=Dublin12;2580816]As you've got a few days before you move on, you might want to try the British Honorary Consul in Pattaya. There is an email address for him here: [URL]https://www.embassypages.com/unitedkingdom-consulate-pattaya-thailand[/URL].
Drop him a line. Explain the prob and you'll probably get an answer in two or three days.[/QUOTE]Cheers. Finally got a response through my MOD sources and it looks like I'm getting a temporary 'Covid Pass' that will be recognised at Heathrow and allow me to skip the home quarantine.
Day Two, Part Two!
Booked another condo to move to tomorrow (today), same building. This is a great location five minutes away from the 'action' MonkeyPaw showed me.
Made it out late afternoon and took a stroll up Beach Road to Central Festival Mall. Quite busy, most of the shops open. They have a Uniqlo. I love Uniqlo stuff. Good quality and un-branded. Prices are cheaper than Europe, so I'll be stocking up before I move on. Main mission was to find a belt. Thai food only once or twice a day, fucking once or twice a day and all this walking around means my shorts are constantly slipping down. I'll be back in 28's in the UK.
Belt acquired, I strolled up and down the length of the beach. Busy. Lots of people out running and taking evening constitutionals. Maybe a dozen or so freelancers scattered around, but nothing of interest.
Head back over to TreeTown and it's the place to be. Recognise a few girls from ThaiFriendly, one who got quite shitty online when I responded to her request for money with 'Want money, come see me. ' I think we both got a bit of a surprise on that one. I doubted she was in Pattaya and she probably thought I was in the UK!
TreeTown is, in MonkeyPaw's metaphor, 'Pattaya High School' and I'm the new kid. Lots of interest from the girls, a few sideways looks from the expats. People buy beer from 7/11 or cocktails from the van just outside, order food and sit at a table all night (well, till 9!) I've arrived late, so with my customary ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, I end up sat at the only table. One chair, in the corner. I couldn't look more anti-social if I put up a big 'FUCK OFF' sign.
I've ordered food, so I have to stay put for a bit. Two gorgeous little spinners turn up, dressed almost identically. Little black crop-tops to show of those toned little bellies, skimpy daisy dukes with black thongs peeking above the waistband. My sexually formative years were during the peak of the 'whaletail' fashion and I'm glad these girls are bringing it back. They look like sisters. And in my fantasy, they are!
By the time I've finished eating, grabbed another cocktail and moved position. The two little spinners are sat with a skinny Israeli / Greek looking guy. What's the etiquette of trying to snake girls away from someone?
Better positioned, a few girls join me at the table. Some lookers. Usual 'interview' (Where you from? Holiday?) etc. Get some lines, but shoo them away 'I wait for my friend. ' I can't get the spinners out of my mind. One of them notices me looking and gives me a smile when the Israeli guy isn't looking. When I come back from the toilet, they're all gone. Fuck!
Hoping against hope they're still around, sans Israeli guy, I grab another cocktail and go walkabout up and down Soi Buakhao. Lots of working girls hanging around. The further you get away from TreeTown, the higher the density of Ladyboys. Two fool me. One until we've spoken for a few minutes, one completely and utterly. (he told me via line later).
Head back to TreeTown just before 9 pm and the party has moved outside, sitting on the steps up and down the road. I grab a beer from 711 and sit down. As is the story so far of my 'finding the action in real life and not just using TF' plans, I'm late to the party. All the decent looking girls are sat with someone and I'm left shoo'ing away the dregs. I didn't know 711 has to stop selling beer at 9 pm, or I would have bought more than one beer. See a working girl come around the corner with two fresh beers, so I follow her steps and find a little shop, still selling beer. He has an opener there beside him and big paper cups to decant it into. Discreet.
This is like being 15 again. Girls with whaletails, buying booze from a dodgy little offie, drinking on the street complete with the occasional 'Police come, police come!' and everyone oh-so cleverly hiding their beers behind them.
Get talking to a Brazilian guy who's pretty interesting. Enjoy the conversation that much I've forgotten about girls for a while. By about 11:30 pm, I'm quite drunk, so offer my new Brazilian friend 1000 thb short time.
Nah, I head home. Group of girls sat at a table just outside TreeTown, "Where you go?" "I go home. " ". I go with you. " Two of them are pretty good looking. I'm tempted, but nah. I get the Line of the best looking one, 'I go to meet friend' and head home.
Fall asleep on the couch while browsing TF.
Today, I'm moving condo and planning to resist getting a girl over early doors. I'm going to post up at TreeTown earlier on and hopefully run into those two spinners again.
I was there in 1993 on exercise as a liaison officer for the Swiss Naval Infantry.
I may come back with Michael Samuel, an ISG member.
Please add me to any relevant groups for whatsapp. I am in Rio now. Thanks.
I had 2 ladies over tonight, with the usual drinking and nudity.
One of the ladies straddled me while I licked her pussy and the other lady gave me a BJ. I felt drops of something falling on me, it was milk from her tits. That was different.
The ladies switched positions and I licked a pussy while the other lady fucked me. After a break, I licked the clit of one lady while the other finger fucked her.
This went on for a couple of hours, until the booze wore off.
Not bad for 2000 baht.
Tomorrow I plan to take a break from drinking, and just have a lady over for straight sex.
Where is TreeTown? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2581091]Where is TreeTown? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It's on Soi Buakhow about three blocks north of the Soi Lengkee / Soi Diana intersection, or 2 blocks north of LK Metro.
Unfortunately, the rumor is that restaurants will be closed next week.
Update for tonight: about an hour after the 2 ladies left, I got a message from a massage lady that she didn't have any customers, which is code for wanting me to be a customer. I couldn't think of a reason why not, so within 30 minutes, she was in my condo for a quickie. In and out.
Another comment: many of the ladies who come over clean my condo for me, sweeping up, mopping the floor, and washing dishes. This is Thailand.
[QUOTE=BillMiami;2581091]Where is TreeTown?[/QUOTE]Across from Chunky Monkey and Hungry Hippo.
Day Three.
Hooked up with MonkeyPaw again at TreeTown and had some food while checking the girls out. Bought some soft drinks and I nipped over the road to 711 for whiskey, which we shared. Cheapest 'Western brand' on offer was Bells. Should have sprung for the Johnnie Walker! Sorry MonkeyPaw.
After Mr Paw left, I hung around longer and talked to some girls, got some Lines. And finished off the whiskey. TreeTown again the place to be for the working girls and the local Expats.
Ended up drinking outside again. A beer or two from the dodgy offie, then I was talking to a couple of freelancers who convinced me to get a bottle of Sangsom to share. They were ok looking, not great. Too old for my current tastes. 32 and 36. The older girl was prettier and had a better body, but was quite shy. They were good banter though.
MonkeyPaw had suggested, before he left, they'd be available for a threesome at 1000 each. I had other prospects on TF, but in my half-cut state the idea of a drunken threesome appealed. 1000 baht each, we go now? Yes. Picked up some more booze on the way to my room. So conveniently located, just around the corner.
In the room, drinking resumed on the couch. Threesome 'light' as I expected. Not touching eachother. BBBJ ensued, me guiding one girl to use her hand while the other sucked, then switched them over. Younger one went for a shower at my suggestion. When she came back, significant baby damage. Still, gave it the good old college try but not happening. Kamagra, far too much booze, fucking at least once daily, a girl I wasn't in to. Nah, not going to come.
Safe in my room is broke, so I had the federal reserves hidden in the kitchen. I'd burnt through my ready use cash, so had to get it out to cash the girls out. When I reached up into the cabinet, it fell out of the hiding place and rained 1000 baht notes all over the kitchen.
Ms. Shy and Reserved suddenly became a lot more affectionate and interested, but even in my inebriated state, I managed to usher them out. In fact, I get rid of them that quickly this morning I find Ms. Shy and Reserved's thong under the bed and the takeout meal she had with her on the side.
Sobered up slightly and decided the night was still young (it wasn't.) I was hungry, so I went to check if anything close was still open. Walked past a cute little spinner near 7/11 and got 'Where are you going?
Well, Hello,. 'I go home. ' 'I go with you. ' 1000 baht. ' 'Ok. '.
Fuck it. Back to the room, Spinner goes for a shower first while I take the rest of a packet of kamagra, down water. And realise I can't find my fucking money. Tear the room apart, looking in every hiding spot I can think off. Can't find it. One of the threesome chicks has robbed the federal reserves, I think.
Nothing I can do about it. And I have 1000 baht for Spinner. I shower, then it's to the bedroom for activities. Great BBBJ which I almost cum from (pretty 20 year old spinners can still get it out of me where lesser girls can't.) On with the condom and I take out my frustration on the poor girl. A real grudge fuck and she seems to love it, fucking back at me with her legs spread wide.
Cum, collapse and she snuggles in and takes care of the cleanup. "I stay?" "If want. Not pay more. " (I don't have any money!) "Ok, I stay. ".
Fall asleep quickly all spooned up. In the morning, I'm awake early and she's still out like a light. Disentangle myself from her and go to make a coffee. First sip tastes wrong. Really wrong. Is the milk off? No, smells OK. Investigate the kettle and find my wallet and the federal reserves. Fucking drunken idiot.
Hide the money again, wake up little Miss Spinner and fuck her again. She's all GFE, saying she want to stay with me, be girlfriend. I want her again, but I make it clear that 'Not want, come again tonight if want. Not all the time. '.
Kick her out and she's Lining me all day, still working the boyfriend angle.
Federal reserves are drying on the balcony. Thai money stands up remarkably well to being boiled. My wallet didn't.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2581432] I was hungry, so I went to check if anything close was still open. Walked past a cute little spinner near 7/11 and got 'Where are you going?
Well, Hello,. 'I go home. ' 'I go with you. ' 1000 baht. ' 'Ok. '.[/QUOTE]This is exactly how Pattaya works. For a new guy you seemingly picked up on things quickly. Don't understand guys who stick with regulars. Just walk around. The girls will find you. This is how it's worked both pre and during c19.
The Powers That Be have mandated a curfew and restaurants shut down in Pattaya. Maybe it had something to do with the 660 new cases reported today.
Anyway, I know a lot of ladies who will be thrown out of work starting Tuesday. So, I will be doubling up or tripling up lady shifts. Maybe have 1 lady in the morning, one or two in late afternoon, and an overnighter.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2581432]Day Three.
Federal reserves are drying on the balcony. Thai money stands up remarkably well to being boiled. My wallet didn't.[/QUOTE]There is something about your posts that makes me think, "If Raymond Chandler was writing about TH, this is how he would be saying it".
Janni, Day Three; we have all been there. 555. Great post and it sounds like you are having a blast although I would not want to be your head on the morning of day 4. Making coffee with your wallet: Priceless! And little Miss Spinner sounds just delightful.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2581432]And realise I can't find my fucking money. Tear the room apart, looking in every hiding spot I can think off. Can't find it. One of the threesome chicks has robbed the federal reserves, I think.
[/QUOTE]I have never had that problem in Thailand. I dropped money out of my pocket on Walking Street before and a chick chased me down to give it back.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2580930]Head back over to TreeTown and it's the place to be. TreeTown is, in MonkeyPaw's metaphor, 'Pattaya High School' and I'm the new kid. Lots of interest from the girls, a few sideways looks from the expats. People buy beer from 7/11 or cocktails from the van just outside, order food and sit at a table all night (well, till 9!) All the decent looking girls are sat with someone and I'm left shoo'ing away the dregs. I didn't know 711 has to stop selling beer at 9 pm, or I would have bought more than one beer. See a working girl come around the corner with two fresh beers, so I follow her steps and find a little shop, still selling beer. He has an opener there beside him and big paper cups to decant it into. Discreet. This is like being 15 again. Girls with whaletails, buying booze from a dodgy little offie, drinking on the street complete with the occasional 'Police come, police come!' and everyone oh-so cleverly hiding their beers behind them.[/QUOTE]Great report. Absolutely cracking. It's almost like I was there. Kudos to Mr. Janni for his excellent work.
I am not really clear on the extent of this new lockdown.
People are told to stay home, but I doubt that people won't be leaving home to go to work. I am not sure if the beaches are off limits. I was planning to go to Koh Larn, but now I will wait to see what happens.
I read that all domestic flights out of Bangkok are stopped for 2 weeks.
Thanks guys. Most of these I've been writing while still half-cut, so very stream of consciousness style.
Day 4.
Waste of a day with my hangover. Chill out at condo for the day, only surfacing to get a FoodPanda delivery.
5 pm, Street Spinner from last night invites herself over again. I have zero motivation to go looking for a girl. She arrives freshly showered and with her hair dyed with blonde streaks ('For you' - what is it with girls and dying their hair for me this trip?
She's again trying to boyfriend me up, 'We go out and eat, then boomboom. ' Erm, nope. Laze on the couch watching Youtube with her head on my lap, her still jabbering away. Get my hand down her shorts and finger her. To shut her up, I stick my dick in her mouth.
Maybe ten minutes of a lazy BBBJ before I get her up, get her shorts off and get her to ride me on the couch. After, showers, then we nip out to pick up some takeout and supplies from 711. All very GFE, constantly touching me, holding my hand, talking about spending the next day with me. I'm very carefully responding 'No, not want girlfriend, not want all the time. '.
Back at condo, we eat, watch some more Netflix and Youtube. And I'm falling asleep. Brush teeth, drag her to the bed. Fuck her in spoons, holding one leg up high to get her nice and wide. After cleanup, fall asleep.
Maybe an hour or two later after falling asleep, she wakes me up. "I stay tomorrow?" "You nice, not want all the time. " She goes into a sulk, crocodile tears, 'No cuddle, no boomboom. ' I've had enough of her shit by this point so tell her she can go. 'No no, I stay' and cuddles in.
Whatever, just shut up and go to sleep!
In the morning, she's sleeping in. I give her till about 9 am and wake her up, 'I stay?' 'No, you go. I busy. ' I get the silent treatment for the next hour of her getting herself ready to go. To the point where she actually lines me, while she's still lazing in bed, 'I shower, you pay me, I go, don't worry. '.
Watch her get ready, moving around the condo avoiding eye contact with me and not saying a single world. Discovered the night before she does anal and the thought of spite-fucking a sullen and uncommunicative 21 year old in the ass is wickedly appealing. Resist the urge. I want to save some in the tank for today and given how she's acting, getting her over for a second time was a mistake. I'm glad the place I'm staying is pretty good with access control. (Guards on the gate take lone ladies ID, keycard only gives you access to the floor your room is on.).
Finally, she'd ready. Give her 1500 and she lets herself out without a second glance back. Hasn't said a word to me in two hours.
See'est la vie. If she hadn't gone crazy, I might have repeated.
Today plan is to hit TreeTown and the streets surrounding again, gathering Lines for the impending hard curfew from tomorrow.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2581825]She's again trying to boyfriend me up, 'We go out and eat, then boomboom.[/QUOTE]Clearly you have learned that this is common in the tourist parts of Thailand. On my last visit to Samui I found a pretty and athletic bar girl who was a third my age. We had a nice short time and after 2 hours I sent her away with about 2000 baht, but intentionally parted without exchanging line ID or phone numbers. The next afternoon she shows up at my resort room and announces that she quit her job so she could be with me for the duration of my stay in Samui. Errrr, NO!
Thanks for another great report!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2581797]I am not really clear on the extent of this new lockdown. People are told to stay home, but I doubt that people won't be leaving home to go to work. I am not sure if the beaches are off limits. I was planning to go to Koh Larn, but now I will wait to see what happens. I read that all domestic flights out of Bangkok are stopped for 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Order from Chonburi's Governor was released around 11p Mon night. However, it doesn't mention if beaches are closed. I'm expecting another order clarifying this. Looks like pools can remain open too, but some condo / apt management may close them. And gyms are closed [URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/19/chonburi-governor-releases-new-provincial-orders-for-change-to-maximum-control-dark-red-zone/[/URL].
Yesterday morning, my overnight lady cleaned my place, and then went home.
I met another at Foodmart where she helped with shopping, and then we went back to my condo for some drinks and rolling around the bed.
She left at 3 pm, and two ladies came over at 4 pm for some heavy drinking.
They left just before 9 pm, and my overnight lady came by, a lady I have known for years, but never barfined.
Not a bad day. I am going to slow it down a little today.
And I am going to have to adjust my schedule to accommodate the 9 pm curfew.
Day 5.
Same shit, different day!
With Pattaya going under hard curfew, I was determined to make the most of nocturnal activities.
Spent the day wandering around, chatting to massage shop girls. Some, I'm able to get their Lines outside the shop, others I go for a 200 baht foot massage. Some good lookers and with them being out of work for two weeks, they're keen to meet.
Stroll along the beach and there's freelancers out at lunchtime. Nobody of interest. They're old, or fat, or both.
Head home for a shower, then check out some little sois near Hooters at MP's suggestion. I had gone to check out Hooters, but they've shut for the curfew a day early. Damn. Would have been nice to try and get some Hooter's girl's Lines! A few bars open with girls, very 'underground. ' They stop you in the street and usher you inside, closing the door behind you. Have a beer in three different bars. Girls aren't that attractive, but I get some Lines anyway and it's nice to have something close to a 'pre-covid Pattaya' experience, drinking and getting 'handsy' with some girls.
After, I inevitably head to TreeTown for more drink. A few cocktails, then I order some food. 'Hot pot' and I'm confused as fuck when they bring over a tray of raw vegetables, raw noodles and raw meat. Thankfully, MonkeyPaw arrives to tell me how to eat it (I. E, wait for the charcoal brazier and cooking pot.).
Hang out with MP for a little bit, then he leaves to go cook. Stop a cute little spinner and get her Line, but the night is still young!
Again at MP's suggestion, I take a lap down Soi Buakhao and go further than I've been before. A few places discreetly selling beer, lots of freelancers and ladyboys hanging around. Get the line from one cute freelancer, then spot a cutie with dyed blonde hair drinking beer with a male and female friend in an unlit / closed bar. Male friend is smoking and I'm at the stage of half-cut where I think smoking is a good idea. I offer to buy a cigarette from the dude and he insists on just giving me one. Hang out with them for a while and they're pretty cool. Finish the cocktail I brought with me from TreeTown, then invite Blondie to come back to TT with me.
I think she says no, but when I turn around she's right behind me. Well, ok then! Blondie says she's 23 (I think she was a probably closer to 30), has one child (she's wearing a top that shows off her belly and there's no baby damage) and speaks English really well. She's maybe 5'1, 100 lbs. She's lived in Phuket, so we talk about that and her dogs. At TreeTown, she knows everybody. We have some cocktails and talk more. Turns out she's a mamasan /'bar manager' at one of the beer bars.
When TreeTown closes, we get beer from the dodgy little offie and join the street party outside. When even that dies off, we buy some more beer and start to head back to my place at maybe 10 pm. Shortcut through the closed TreeTown and we run into three of her friends, sat outside a closed shop that one of them works at, drinking away. One older chubby girl, but the other two are very doable. One in particular I really like. She's pretty, quite tall and speaks English with a noticeably American / Midwestern accent. She's also funny as fuck, taking the piss out of me and flirting with very heavy sexual innuendo.
Blondie gets jealous of how much attention I'm paying to American Girl, so she moves to sit in my lap and kiss me. Drink for maybe an hour, hour and a half with her friends, me keeping them supplied (of courrse.) I'm scheming to try and get American girl's Line, but Blondie has an Iron Bladder and never leaves my side. Blondie's friends have been hard at it for a while, so they stumble off to a Taxi. And me and Blondie make the short walk back to my to condo, via the offie for more beer.
Back at the condo, the action starts on the couch. Kissing and groping, getting her clothes off. She's lovely and lean, no sign of any baby damage whatsoever. We move to the shower and start to fuck in there while we're still soapy. I almost fall over in the shower, so we move back to the couch. A lot of the girls thus far have been very GFE. This is PSE! She's got her tongue down my throat, she's soaking wet and when I finish fingering her, she grabs my hand and sucks my fingers clean. Reverse cowgirl on couch (Harder! Harder!) and at her own instigation, she hops off a couple of times to suck my dick. Very, very filthy!
Beer, kamagra and all the fucking I've done over the last 20 days, I'm taking a while to cum. After about 20 minutes, I need a breather. We'd bought cigarettes too, so we go onto the balcony to smoke naked. Not overlooked too closely by any other balconies, but there's a couple of condo blocks maybe 200-300 m away who'd get a view if they looked out and up. Only room for one chair on the balcony, so she sits straddling my lap. Inevitably, we start to fuck out there too. She's a little exhibitionist, really seeming to get off on it. Again, her instigation. She stands up and leans over the balcony rail and gets me to do her from behind. I can see her wetness running down the inside of her thighs.
Not very comfortable and it's hot as fuck, so before long I drag her back to the bed. Into missionary with her legs around my waist, pounding away while she nibbles on my ear and murmurs in my ear 'Cum in my pussy, baby. '.
That'll do it. Afterwards, we shower again and finish off a beer. She's hungry. Everywhere on Grab and Foodpanda is shut, the only food I have is eggs and bread. She whines and wheedles. So we end up dressing (her in one of my t-shirts as a dress and no panties. I like this girl.) Maybe 1 am, we walk back to the Night Market on Soi Buakhao and there's still some food vendors around. She gets Pad Thai, then we jump on the back of a bike taxi to get back to my condo. I can feel her bare pussy on my back.
Back at the Condo, she eats some of the food, puts it in the fridge, then drags me to bed. (I'm half asleep on the couch) Cuddle up, pass out.
In the morning, she's awake before I am. And wakes me up with a blowjob. Mount up, cowgirl. And I don't take long at all to finish now. She showers, dresses, cleans up the condo and makes the bed while I lounge around drinking coffee.
She won't give me her Line. 'Only use for work, come find me where you met me. ' I really, really wanted to try and get the American Girl's line out of her. A sweet kiss, I give her 1000 baht (she wheedles.
Another 100 out of me for a taxi) and she leaves by 8:30 am. Refreshing after how long it took me to get rid of Street Spinner yesterday!
I'm feeling worn out. I think in maybe 20 days, there's been only one day where I haven't fucked. First day of the new curfew, I'm going to stay in alone and behave.
Maybe.
The curfew started today, so I am off to stock up at Food art. I spent the entire morning lining up ladies to come to my place for the next few days.
To give you an idea how bad things are, two ladies are at the beach, looking for edible shellfish. Another lady sent me a message that her son has Covid.
We are going to be in for a rough ride now.
It's a good thing I am fully vaccinated with Moderna and I won the lottery.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2580724]I've seen a few profiles stating 100% submissive on TF and all of them looked like obvious ladyboys pretending to be females.
Also taking in account that she was tall and skinny with almost no boobs which is rather an LB attribute in Thailand even though we can find some real girls like that, but the big majority of Thai girls are not.
That's maybe the reason why she prefers to be fucked in the ass, though the picture you shared doesn't look like an obvious LB from what we can see.[/QUOTE]There is no way in hell that was a LB. But then again, guys posting pics of clear LBs (to me) that turn out to be true born GG's by the account of mongers on this forum. Other guys posting pics of clear girls (in my opinion) that may be LBs. Worse yet top GG models being mistaken for LBs. It could very well be that I have become gender confused and I would hate to visit LOS in such a state. I'll probably end up with a surprise that I can't handle or be able to reverse the consequential damage that ensues thereof.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582223]Day 5.
Same shit, different day!
With Pattaya going under hard curfew, I was determined to make the most of nocturnal activities.[/QUOTE]Your stories are hilarious! I feel like I'm living vicariously thru you. I'm not even in Thailand and I literally just go on this thread to read your stories. Been following your short novels since the Phuket thread. I plan to visit Pattaya and Phuket once things open up a bit more this year. Nice to know there are still ways to do this hobby even in these trying times there.
I doubled up ladies yesterday, I had 2 sisters come over, followed by a single lady who arrived just before curfew.
One of the sisters is a long time pro, she has a Farang sponsor, a Farang husband and a Thai boyfriend. The sister doesn't work, and went horny as hell to passing out in the bathroom. Fortunately, the sister took care of her, and the other lady arrived and helped out. When they left, I got down to business with the curfew lady.
I told the overnight lady she could leave anytime after I fell asleep, but I discovered she left about midnight, so I guess she wasn't worried about the curfew.
[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2582338]Your stories are hilarious! I feel like I'm living vicariously thru you. I'm not even in Thailand and I literally just go on this thread to read your stories. Been following your short novels since the Phuket thread. I plan to visit Pattaya and Phuket once things open up a bit more this year. Nice to know there are still ways to do this hobby even in these trying times there.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoy!
Day 6 -.
Hangovers rob me of all motivation to do anything except eat and stare blankly at Netflix. It's less the physical effects and more the complete stripping away of dopamine from my system. It's like depression. In my line of work with lots of hard drinkers, we call it 'the fear. '.
FoodPanda'd some McDonald's breakfast and lazed on the couch most of the day. When the heat died off, I went out for supplies and a walk around. Beach road was as busy as ever, lots of people out walking and exercising. Lots of homeless / the very poor just hanging out. Didn't notice any obvious freelancers. But unless it's a girl I'm interested in, I'm not making eye contact and I think with the hard curfew / advise to stay home, they're being very discreet. Witnessed the free food handout about 5 pm. Huge line of people waiting to get their rice.
Took a stroll down the little sois near hooters. And there is again bars and massage parlours operating discreetly. Massages aren't really my thing and this is a 'day off' anyway (still counts even though I fucked Blondie Mamasan in the morning), last thing I want to do is drink and besides, as I'm walking I notice a Copper on a bike drive down the street.
Soi Buakhao, everything is open for takeaway including TreeTown and the cocktail store. Some freelancers and ladyboys hanging around, dressed less 'sexily' than normal but I recognise them from other nights.
Run into Blondie Mamasan from last night, hanging out at the place we drank with her friends. She's talking to the chubby girl that works at one of the stalls at TreeTown, drinking beer from a thermos cup. 'Where are you going?' 'Home. ' 'I go with you?' 'No, I sleep. ' Tempted to try and get American Girl's line out of her, but I come over all polite and have no idea how to diplomatically put 'I don't want to fuck you again, but I will fuck your friend. '.
Home by about 7 pm, FoodPanda about 4000 calories worth of pizza and sides, eat until I feel sick and lie in bed, praying for death.
Day 7, Part One -.
Wake up after about 10 hours sleep feeling refreshed and raring to go. I have a date set with a cute and smiley 18 year old (she says) I've videochatted with. 11 AM. By about 9 AM, I message her to confirm. 'You come 11 AM?' "13.00" she replies. This is the second time she's flaked on me, so I leave her on read.
Shotgun message girls on Line and ThaiFriendly. These girls all sleep late and I'm not getting many replies, or if I am they're all talking about coming in the afternoon. Nope, I WANT NOW. I become less picky and just tell the first girl that says '30 minutes' to come over. She's only been on TF for 10 days, her profile says 18. Stats are 5'1, 95 lbs. I got her Line but screened her out because she wouldn't videochat, couldn't get any pictures out of her. And the ones on her TF profile and Line were just fully clothed shots. Pretty enough though.
She arrives promptly within 30 minutes and I meet her in the lobby. Wearing a little croptop and some short shorts. From what I can see, I'm impressed! Get her up to the room, get the face mask off and she's cute. And has braces. She's shy, very smiley and doesn't speak much English. Ask to see her ID and she turned 18 two months ago. A teeny-bit of acne. But that's what your get for fucking teenagers.
Ok, this worked out very well for a last minute 'See who I can get over right now' thing. It's a curious phenomenon, but I've noticed that girls who's pictures I'm really into turn out to be a disappointment. And girl's who have very few pictures / pictures I'm not that into turn out to be pleasant surprise when they turn up.
She's freshly showered (I can feel her hair is a little damp), I've just jumped out of the shower. So it's on to business on the couch first. Some kissing, getting my hands all over her body. She's coltish and lean. I love long legs. Get her top off and she has some of the biggest boobs I've had on a girl yet in Thailand. (Not a boob man, but these are nice.) Her ass looks and feels fantastic in those short-shorts.
Get her to the bed and she's teasing me about the state of my duvet cover. Like a moron, I had wet hands when I made the bed 5 minutes before she got here, so there's suspicious damp patches. She's pointing at them 'Lady one, Lady two, Lady three. '.
Both of our clothes come off, more kissing and rolling around, exploring her body. Pretty, perfect little pussy, freshly shaved. She won't let me go down on her (keeps moving her hand in the way) and saying 'I shy, I shy!' but she lets me rub and finger her while I kiss her and tease the rest of her body. She gets nice and wet.
BBBJ and I almost come. So, so, so tempted to jizz on her braces. (I'm a bad man.) Hold back, take a breather to let things subside with some kissing. Then it's time to fuck, in missionary and I have to keep stopping so I don't cum in about three minutes flat. Spin her into cowgirl so she can do the work now, just grinding away, all hot wet and squelchy. Try to get her stop when I can feel myself cumming, but. Ooops.
Now my duvet cover is in the wash.
After, shower together and I spend a lot of time soaping up that cute little ass and those boobs. Snap a picture of her while she's trying to hide in the duvet 'I shy! I shy! Then we both dress.
At no point during our TF, Line and pre-game conversation, has money been discussed. Sit on the couch afterwards, "You want come again?" "Up to you. " "You want do longtime?" "Up to you. " I give her 1200 thb and she leaves happy. Door to door, she stayed maybe 50 minutes.
I've decided I'm going to head back to the UK on the 28th for my prior commitment (then get straight back out somewhere again! So today I need to try and sort out a pre-flight PCR test.
Later, I've got one of MonkeyPaw's castoffs coming over. A little 22 year old spinner with Punky Tattooed Chic from Phuket vibes.
On the subject of girl's with farang boyfriends pimping them out, these are screenshots of the conversation with Miss Long and Lean. 'She' messages me everyday.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582695]Ok, this worked out very well for a last minute 'See who I can get over right now' thing. It's a curious phenomenon, but I've noticed that girls who's pictures I'm really into turn out to be a disappointment. And girl's who have very few pictures / pictures I'm not that into turn out to be pleasant surprise when they turn up.
She's freshly showered (I can feel her hair is a little damp), I've just jumped out of the shower. So it's on to business on the couch first. Some kissing, getting my hands all over her body. She's coltish and lean. I love long legs. Get her top off and she has some of the biggest boobs I've had on a girl yet in Thailand. (Not a boob man, but these are nice.) Her ass looks and feels fantastic in those short-shorts.
Get her to the bed and she's teasing me about the state of my duvet cover. Like a moron, I had wet hands when I made the bed 5 minutes before she got here, so there's suspicious damp patches. She's pointing at them 'Lady one, Lady two, Lady three. '.
Both of our clothes come off, more kissing and rolling around, exploring her body. Pretty, perfect little pussy, freshly shaved. She won't let me go down on her (keeps moving her hand in the way) and saying 'I shy, I shy!' but she lets me rub and finger her while I kiss her and tease the rest of her body. She gets nice and wet.
[/QUOTE]Some absolutely great contributions to the Forum, Mate. Keep going.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582713]On the subject of girl's with farang boyfriends pimping them out, these are screenshots of the conversation with Miss Long and Lean. 'She' messages me everyday.[/QUOTE]Noonanal.
I guess that's not her real Line ID. :-the.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582713]On the subject of girl's with farang boyfriends pimping them out, these are screenshots of the conversation with Miss Long and Lean. 'She' messages me everyday.[/QUOTE]It doesn't sounds like a Thai girl talking to you.
I began today's festivities with a massage from an older freelance lady. About halfway through, she spread my legs and gave me a prostate massage and then my balls, for a long time. She asked if I wanted a HJ, but I declined, as I had 2 ladies coming over in an hour. So, instead, the lady started massaging the base of my dick, slowly working her way up. I gently let her know that I wasn't going to cum, so she went back to the massage.
The ladies were not much fun. Yeah, they drank and got naked, but one was hot to go, but the other was shy. I don't like it unbalanced like that.
So, they left before curfew, hopefully sober.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582695]Tempted to try and get American Girl's line out of her, but I come over all polite and have no idea how to diplomatically put 'I don't want to fuck you again, but I will fuck your friend. [/QUOTE]You: Where is your friend?
Her: I do not know.
You: Give me her Line.
Her: You want my friend?
You: Yes.
Today, I have 2 sets of ladies coming, a day shift and a night shift.
My rationale for doing this is that everything is locked down, there isn't much to do, so why not play with the ladies. They really need the money, and most are bored out of their minds.
I don't demand the ladies do anything, I much prefer they do what they want. That means some ladies just drink, some get naked and frolic, some want to fuck, mostly with the other lady, and about 50% give me unprovoked BJs. I notice that some ladies have a dick fetish, they can't keep their hands off it. Maybe they are just used to rubbing dicks when drinking with a customer.
No matter what happens, I don't finish, even if some lady fucks me when I am busy with the other lady. I don't want the ladies to think of coming over as sex work, unless I specifically tell them they are coming over for sex, then there is no drinking, we just hit the bedroom. Otherwise, I get HJs and BJs over a few hours. Or sometimes nothing. It depends on the lady.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2582912]You: Where is your friend?
Her: I do not know.
You: Give me her Line.
Her: You want my friend?
You: Yes.[/QUOTE]Would that I could be that direct.
I'm getting better. This is my first 'proper mongering trip' where I've done anything other than order girls to my room from escort / dating sites. No doubt with a few under my belt, I'll be much 'harder. '.
[QUOTE=Mens2;2582791]Noonanal.
I guess that's not her real Line ID. :-the.[/QUOTE]Haha, no. I took Dublin12's advice and started editing the girl's names to keep track of who was who. With over 130 line contacts from this trip alone, it's hard to keep track. I wish they'd use the same Line ID as their TF profiles. Maybe I should start renaming them to that.
Day 7, Part Two:
MonkeyPaw's castaway girl was late (he'd warned me she would be.) Maybe I need to develop a more laidback attitude, but we'd agreed 6 pm, my thoughts being I could finish with her, then head out for food and checkout the scene prior to curfew at 9 pm. By 6. 45 pm with zero contact, I told her not to bother. My need wasn't that urgent after my morning session with the 18 year old cutie.
Dragged myself up and took a stroll over to TreeTown and up and down Soi Buakhao again. Ate some food sat on the street, talked to a few girls (none of interest.) I think all the 'better' girls have moved strictly online. After hanging around for an hour, I headed in the direction of the beach intending for a quick lap. Got halfway there and decided 'Fuck it, can't be bothered. '.
I've spent the prior 6 months getting up at 3:30 am, so my sleeping pattern is still adjusting. I'm awake by 5 most days, so by the middle of the evening I'm tired and ready for sleep unless I'm drinking.
Day Eight, Part One:
Headed out early doors, 8 AM, to check out some massage places. 50/60% of them are still operating discreetly. One or two girls sat out front, dressed 'normally', shutters half down and as soon as you show interest, they usher you in out of sight. At this time of the morning, I think the be shift are very much in evidence. Old and or overweight.
Finally on a little sidestreet off of Soi Buakhao, I spot a decent looking girl. Little plain janeish, but cute enough with an adorable overbite. She's wearing leggings and a tanktop. 5 footish, around 100 lbs, no tattoos or baby damage I can see, maybe mid 20's. Very little English. Mamasan wants 1000 for full service, but I really can't be bothered. Massage shops just aren't my scene, fucking in a dank room where thousands of guys have sweated. Shudder. I've come out just for a BJ more or less because it's less effort than a wank (the ennui is starting to hit hard haha). 800 for a BJ. "Cannot, 500. " "Ok. ".
Up to the little stall / room and I skip all pretence of a 'massage. ' Shorts down, lie down, put her hand on my dick. She gets the message and starts slurping on my dick. Decent BBBJ, some attempt at deepthroating, lots of spit. Partway through, I move her from between my legs to kneeling down by my side. No objections (well, some, but I persist) to pulling her leggings and panties down so I can finger her.
Maybe 15-20 minutes. I always find it difficult to cum from oral sex and she keeps changing what she's doing every time I feel myself on the edge. Finally, she persists long enough and I use my free hand to hold her head down while I cum in her mouth. She spits it out into some tissue paper. Clean up, I head 'home' to shower and grab some breakfast on the way.
Maybe that'll do me for today. I'm not sure yet. I'll probably do the rounds again later when I head out for dinner.
Some Pattaya Reflections;.
-I think the girls I was seeing in Phuket were giving better service, maybe for a couple of reasons. I ended up with older girls. Of my 'repeats', two were mid 30's (Bargirl and Goodtime Girl) and two were early thirties (Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie with a Booty). 'Less desirable', so make it up with service. There seemed to be less expats around in Phuket than Pattaya, so they were getting less action and were thus hornier. Most of the girls I've done in Pattaya now have been sub-24, unreliable on timing, service has been ok but strictly 'one and done' and none of them do I want to hang around with outside of the bedroom (with perhaps the exception of Blondie Mamasan.) Starting to reach out on TF to 25+ girls.
-A month is probably too long a trip to just fuck working girls day in day out. Next trip, I'm going to try harder to break into the semi / non pro scene. I don't think a single girl I've spoken to on TF isn't a pro, so I doubt they're online. At least not in Pattaya / Patong. Need to meet them the old-fashioned away. A 'holiday girlfriend' is starting to appeal at this point.
-I'm just not as 'hungry' for it as I was at the start of the trip and I almost feel like I'm just going through the motions. I think I need to learn how to pace myself a little better, take a few days off here and there.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583184]Some Pattaya Reflections;.
I'm just not as 'hungry' for it as I was at the start of the trip and I almost feel like I'm just going through the motions. I think I need to learn how to pace myself a little better, take a few days off here and there.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you are hitting the 'beast of burden' wall. Common; as the hobby in Thailand comes at you in waves. To 'break on through to the other side' I used to go for something with epic potential like a PSE threesome at Eden Club or Devils Den, but due to the pandemic those places are long shuttered.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583184]I think the girls I was seeing in Phuket were giving better service, maybe for a couple of reasons. I ended up with older girls. Of my 'repeats', two were mid 30's (Bargirl and Goodtime Girl) and two were early thirties (Punky Tattooed Chick and Cutie with a Booty). 'Less desirable', so make it up with service.[/QUOTE]I intrinsically value service as twice as important as looks. Attempting to express it mathematically: a 7 looks and 10 attitude lady (7+10+10)/3 = an overall 9 experience, compared to a 10 looks and 7 attitude lady (10+7+7)/3 = an overall 8 experience. As always YMMV.
SL.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583184] Maybe that'll do me for today.[/QUOTE]Narrator's voice; [I]It didn't.[/I].
Day Eight, Part Two;.
Got hungry again about 2 pm, headed out to find a food stall doing grilled pork. Got my grilled pork and spotted an obvious, obvious working girl at the next stall over. Huge, fake bolton tits. Facially, OK, quite full figured, about 30. I'm confident she isn't a ladyboy. She's wearing big stilleto heels, but she's absolutely tiny. Like, 4'10. Use the cheatcode MonkeyPaw told me 'Where are you going?' 'I go to see friend' 'Ok, give me your line. '.
An hour later, she lines me 'Finished with friend. ' Quick chit-chat, including me bluntly asking if she's a ladyboy / postop, then we settle on 1000 thb. 30 minutes after that, she's at my condo.
Consummate professional, after pre-match showers, guides the action while I just lay there and let her do her thing. Deepthroat BBBJ, slippery oil tit-wank, on with the condom, fuck in a couple of positions, off with the condom to cum on those huge fake tits (seriously, why did she go that big? She's got to have back problems.) Couple of shots miss. And I have to wash my duvet cover AGAIN.
Post-match showers, some chit-chat about various things and she's gone.
I didn't feel like I had another one in me today, but I think it's the Coolidge effect / novelty factor of those huge fake boobs. Not a boob man, but it had to be done.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583184]I've come out just for a BJ more or less because it's less effort than a wank (the ennui is starting to hit hard haha). 800 for a BJ. "Cannot, 500. " "Ok. ".
Up to the little stall / room and I skip all pretence of a 'massage. ' Shorts down, lie down, put her hand on my dick. She gets the message and starts slurping on my dick. [/QUOTE]How many years have I been saying this? So simple for you to get the 500 "normal" price, but guys that go to Pattaya all the time insist on paying 1500 in these places and say it is not possible to get cheaper. Definitely can't get it cheaper if you do not open your mouth and say something. I see somebody gets it.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582713]On the subject of girl's with farang boyfriends pimping them out, these are screenshots of the conversation with Miss Long and Lean. 'She' messages me everyday.[/QUOTE]Very few chance that the person messaging you is her boyfriend.
She was maybe working in an establishment pre covid (most probably a bar) and her manager tries to find customers for her and get a kickback.
This would explain the heavier price she asked, if she gives 500 to that guy that makes her 1000ST or 1500 for A+ , which looks more standard.
Given the way he messages you, it's probably a westerner man, I don't think of any other group of people using the word "somnamna" as in the screenshot.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2583241]How many years have I been saying this? So simple for you to get the 500 "normal" price, but guys that go to Pattaya all the time insist on paying 1500 in these places and say it is not possible to get cheaper. Definitely can't get it cheaper if you do not open your mouth and say something. I see somebody gets it.[/QUOTE]Considering the relative dearth of customers, I'm pretty sure I'm having an easy time on the negotiating. But I've been RTFF and have had some good guidance from MonkeyPaw.
Things are getting ominous here. I did have 4 ladies over today, but all of them were desperate, there are few customers, salaries are being cut, it's getting bad.
Bad for them, good for me, I had 4 ladies climbing over me, BJs and HJs all day, GFE, tongues down my throat, I am exhausted. I know how a bargirl feels when she has 4 customers in a row.
I tell the ladies that I don't want to fuck, but they try every trick in the book to get my dick inside. Not because they are horny, but because they want pole position, to be the girlfriend. If I give in, there will be a shitstorm that would end poorly.
As I write this, my Messenger is dinging with requests from ladies to come over. My dance card is pretty full, though.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583252]Considering the relative dearth of customers, I'm pretty sure I'm having an easy time on the negotiating. But I've been RTFF and have had some good guidance from MonkeyPaw.[/QUOTE]Brother it has always been that easy; some people just chose not to try, falsely assuming it was not possible.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2583261] As I write this, my Messenger is dinging with requests from ladies to come over. My dance card is pretty full, though.[/QUOTE]If you want, you're more than welcome to send a pair of your bisexual ladies my way, to take the pressure off. If nothing else, I'll pay and feed them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2583398]Brother it has always been that easy; some people just chose not to try, falsely assuming it was not possible.[/QUOTE]You pay too much, I know an English guy who pays 4,000 baht for a month.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583471]If you want, you're more than welcome to send a pair of your bisexual ladies my way, to take the pressure off. If nothing else, I'll pay and feed them.[/QUOTE]I run into 2 kinds of bi-sexual ladies, the ones who do it for show, and the ones who do it for real. The latter don't need me (or you). The former are not so much fun, in fact, can be annoying. So, from my perspective, it's more of a bug than a feature.
Some of the best fucks are the ladies who go with Toms. I don't know why that is.
Day 9.
Rediscovered my mojo / overcome the ennui.
Got a message from PunkySpinner who'd been very late for a previously arranged meet, wanting to come again today. I was willing to give it another shot. I said 14:00. She said 12:30. And eventually arrived at 12:35.
Her conditions agreed upon in Line were; 1200, must have condom, no ass.
Not bad. 5'1 maybe, 95 lbs, 24 years old. No baby damage, lean. She had a short jaw length bob streaked with blue and was wearing blue contact lenses. Both freshly showered, it was to the couch for some very deep french kissing and groping. She was a little shy, but very submissive, doing everything I told her.
When I got my hands into her jeans, she got up to go to the bathroom and freshen up. She came out again after about 5 minutes, wearing a towel. Game on. Divested her of the towel on the way to the bed, threw her down on it. I'd got the idea this girl liked to be dominated, so I was pretty rough on her (besides, she needed to be punished for being late last time! Bending and rolling her around, lightly biting at her. Folded her up like a pretzel for some DATY but gave up after maybe 10 minutes. It just didn't seem to be doing it for her. Only slightly, slightly wet. Couldn't even get a finger in without force and I'm pretty gentle with unaroused pussies! Dragged her down for a sloppy BBBJ, cute little ass in the air near my head. Nearby lube, I lubed up her pussy and slipped a couple of fingers into her. She actually moaned around my dick.
Hmmm. Over the next few minutes, I worked on her pussy with my fingers. Blowjob was forgotten about as I was just throwing her around the bed again. She started to get extremely wet. I have never fingered a girl so hard, so deeply and with so many fingers before. All four and my thumb, almost fisting, and I could swear I could feel her cervix on the tip of my fingers. (I have small hands, so YMMV) I could feel her twitching around my fingers.
When I started to get cramp from contorting my hand so much, I moved up to lie beside her while she panted with her eyes half-shut. She kissed me, I rolled on top of her. And she reached down and guided me into her, bareback. It's waaaay hotter when it's the girl's call and you don't have to push for it. Especially after the previous condom specification in our Line chat.
Continued being forceful with her, bending her around, lightly biting her (she was laughing at the little red marks all over her in the shower afterwards), finally ended up folding her like a pretzel again, holding her knees up around her ears on the pillow as I just pounded roughly away, her moaning away and giving little 'shit, shit, shit' and 'fuck, fuck, fuck's.
She hadn't said anything about a CIP finish. But I held off. Variety is the spice of life and she needed punished more, I felt. When I felt myself cumming, I pulled out. I'm no Peter North, but with her bent almost in half, the first shot hit her in the cheek and splattered into her hair, the second went on her belly and the third just sort of oozed over her pussy.
Lay there just panting a while, then clean up, showers. Noticed cigarettes in her purse (I didn't know she smoked, good oral hygiene), so smoked on the balcony and had some chitchat. Told her 'I like you, glad I tried again. You can come again. " Immediately; "When?
I half want to get her back over right now, but I'll resist. Some unfinished business to attend to with her (namely, CIP), so I'll definitely repeat before I head home. Maybe a longtime.
This evening, going to hook up with MonkeyPaw again for a wander around before curfew.
Started off with a single lady, the sister of my ex, she has a Thai boyfriend who can't perform. It turns out that Kamagra works for him (she got a free packet last night) but she can't afford a box. So, I plan to buy a box, and dole them out to her over time. I didn't do much with her, as my schedule is busy today.
Two ladies came over in the late afternoon. They love to talk about their lezzie show, but it wasn't much. They also talk about how horny they are, how they have to cum a couple of times a day, but I suspect a lot of it is just marketing. One as very clingy, wanted to fuck all night, the other was more interested in helping her fuck me. This is the second day in a row that I have noticed one lady order the other to give me a blow job. At this point, it's becoming a blur what lady does what, and I am also getting physically tired from struggling with pairs of ladies trying to pin me down to fuck me.
I suspect soon, it's going to come to ladies trying to do me bareback in the hopes of getting pregnant.
It's not that there's anything great about me, but times are really hard. The ladies come early to clean my condo, before they start work, and then clean it before they leave, and take out the trash. They say they have no5 hing to do back in the room.
I should note that there are no alcohol sales on Saturday, and not on Sunday in some places, which will be a shock to some people. I stocked up today.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583577]Continued being forceful with her, bending her around, lightly biting her (she was laughing at the little red marks all over her in the shower afterwards), finally ended up folding her like a pretzel again, holding her knees up around her ears on the pillow as I just pounded roughly away, her moaning away and giving little 'shit, shit, shit' and 'fuck, fuck, fuck's.[/QUOTE]Earlier this Spring I was inches away from pulling the trigger and booking a visit to Thailand complete with 2 week quarantine hotel, etc. I backed out at the last minute and opted for a few months in Brazil / Colombia where I am currently. Reading your posts it seems that all of the things I want and have had a very difficult time finding in Brazil / Colombia you are finding in spades in Thailand: tight little brown spinners, BBBJ, BBFS, DFK, GFE etc etc. Brazil was better than Colombia as far as BBBJ, CIM etc but in both locations it was a real struggle to get anything close to BBFS so mostly I just stuck to BJ which is ultimately unsatisfying. Nothing really like what you describe above- would need to be covered.
I've traveled both SA and SEA many times before so was well aware of the differences in services offered, but it was my guess that the scene in Pattaya would be dead and deserted and not worth the two week hotel lock-up. Your posts are revealing a different reality- for those that managed to get in or stay, the bounty is real.
Not that I had a bad time in Brazil (Colombia was mediocre), but your stories are haunting me with what could've been.
Anyways, its great you are having fun and keep up the excellent reports.
Zebra.
Here's how bad things are now:
I know a lady who had, pre-Covid, 5 sponsors, she had her own condo, although she worked in a bar, I almost only saw her when she stopped in to talk to friends, since she was constantly barfined. She had so much money, she bought me drinks.
She is coming over to my place for low paid work because she has no customers.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2583687]Earlier this Spring I was inches away from pulling the trigger and booking a visit to Thailand complete with 2 week quarantine hotel, etc. I backed out at the last minute and opted for a few months in Brazil / Colombia where I am currently. Reading your posts it seems that all of the things I want and have had a very difficult time finding in Brazil / Colombia you are finding in spades in Thailand: tight little brown spinners, BBBJ, BBFS, DFK, GFE etc etc. Brazil was better than Colombia as far as BBBJ, CIM etc but in both locations it was a real struggle to get anything close to BBFS so mostly I just stuck to BJ which is ultimately unsatisfying. Nothing really like what you describe above- would need to be covered.
I've traveled both SA and SEA many times before so was well aware of the differences in services offered, but it was my guess that the scene in Pattaya would be dead and deserted and not worth the two week hotel lock-up. Your posts are revealing a different reality- for those that managed to get in or stay, the bounty is real.
Not that I had a bad time in Brazil (Colombia was mediocre), but your stories are haunting me with what could've been.
Anyways, its great you are having fun and keep up the excellent reports.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is a paradise for mongering now, the best it ever has been.
I have gone to Brazil a lot, it can be great, and my Portuguese is passable. But, I also run into the syndrome where I miss spinners in Brazil.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2583687]Earlier this Spring I was inches away from pulling the trigger and booking a visit to Thailand complete with 2 week quarantine hotel, etc. I backed out at the last minute and opted for a few months in Brazil / Colombia where I am currently. Reading your posts it seems that all of the things I want and have had a very difficult time finding in Brazil / Colombia you are finding in spades in Thailand: tight little brown spinners, BBBJ, BBFS, DFK, GFE etc etc. Brazil was better than Colombia as far as BBBJ, CIM etc but in both locations it was a real struggle to get anything close to BBFS so mostly I just stuck to BJ which is ultimately unsatisfying. Nothing really like what you describe above- would need to be covered.
I've traveled both SA and SEA many times before so was well aware of the differences in services offered, but it was my guess that the scene in Pattaya would be dead and deserted and not worth the two week hotel lock-up. Your posts are revealing a different reality- for those that managed to get in or stay, the bounty is real.
Not that I had a bad time in Brazil (Colombia was mediocre), but your stories are haunting me with what could've been.
Anyways, its great you are having fun and keep up the excellent reports.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]I have to get back to the UK for a wedding. A 30 year friendship in the balance. But I'm not 100% sad about leaving Thailand. Yeah, if not for that, I'd probably hang out here for a few more months, but I'm starting to crave a different sort of girl. A leggy, 25 year old morena with a 'sculptural' gym body, big boobs and a big ass is sounding very appealing.
Don't think I can be bothered with a quarantine / Phuket Sandbox again. So I'll probably look at heading to South America after the wedding.
The grass is always greener on the other side.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2583687]...all of the things I want and have had a very difficult time finding in Brazil / Colombia you are finding in spades in Thailand: tight little brown spinners, BBBJ, BBFS, DFK, GFE etc etc. Brazil was better than Colombia as far as BBBJ, CIM etc but in both locations it was a real struggle to get anything close to BBFS so mostly I just stuck to BJ which is ultimately unsatisfying. Nothing really like what you describe above- would need to be covered...[/QUOTE]I go to Colombia regularly, and to Brazil once in a while. I have no problem obtaining all the services you mention in your post. You can get all of them if you work at it. And it has been the same for me in Thailand. I had to put in some effort to get all the fun stuff.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2583847]I have to get back to the UK for a wedding. A 30 year friendship in the balance. [/QUOTE]Tell them that you will just go to their next one.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2583861]Tell them that you will just go to their next one.[/QUOTE]Bros before hos.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2583855]I go to Colombia regularly, and to Brazil once in a while. I have no problem obtaining all the services you mention in your post. You can get all of them if you work at it. And it has been the same for me in Thailand. I had to put in some effort to get all the fun stuff.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, anyone who has been to Bogota or Medellin (not including Brazil here) circa 2021 would not be saying with a straight face that its "just as easy" to get BBFS / BBBJ / CIM there as in Pattaya or SEA generally. This is what is often referred to as "Fake News. " I don't care if your penis is 24 carat solid gold- this is just not true my brother. Categorically, empirically, literally, figuratively.
I will maintain: to get the "fun stuff" in SEA does not require the same amount of work. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one my dude.
Day 9, Part Two:
Hooked up with MonkeyPaw again, wandered around checking out some stuff. Quite a lot of Freelancers (relatively speaking) out on Beach Road. After MP heads home, I approach a couple and. One that looked decent and young from afar turned out to be old and chubby, the other turned out to be a Ladyboy.
I'm too polite, so I just get their lines anyway and leave.
Tired, I just turn in.
Day 10, Part One:
Spend the morning chatting up some new prospects, have PunkySpinner from yesterday coming at lunchtime. And she flakes, wants to come at 1600 instead.
My dander is up, so it's again back to my typical lack of forward planning and seeing who I can get over quick. Settle on a 21 year old blonde spinner with fake boobs, who MP said wasn't great, but not bad. I get bad feelings about her from the start of the line conversation. Too. Pro. States her price, terms and conditions, wants me to take a picture from my balcony to prove I'm actually here.
She arrives and facially, she's ok. Not a stunner. In the room, she showers and it's all so. Mechanical, 'pro. '. She comes out of the shower in a towel, "You have KY?" I'm thinking at this stage I might be able to get some life out of her, so I say 'We might not need. ' Get her on the bed, get the towel off AND WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
Stubble on her belly. And actual fucking tufts of hair on her arsehole. I have less hair on my arse. I'm not going anywhere near that with my fingers, let alone my fucking tongue.
Lie back and let her get to work with her mouth. A decent, but not deep BBBJ. After sub-five minutes, "You have condom?" I'm not putting my dick anywhere near that, either. "Just blowjob, I lazy. " She goes back to work while I just play with those firm boltons of hers. Another five minutes, "You not cum?
I could if she carried on for a bit, with some effort, closing my eyes and thinking about porn. But there's other fish in the sea and I'm not wasting energy. "Ok, I drink too much, not cum. It's ok, you can go. " (Haven't had a drop in two days).
Had agreed 1200 thb, gave her 1000 thb to avoid the drama. Probably should have just sent her off with taxi money, but I take the path of least resistance.
I'm going to take another shower.
I started off the day with a ST from a lady who helped clean my place. Actually, it was a pretty good fuck, I will have her back.
Then, two more ladies came to drink. They were very shy, but after a few drinks, they got closer and closer. I don't tell the ladies what to do, I prefer them to do what they want, and they wanted to drink, rub my cock, take off their clothes, and take turns with a BJ. As is usual, I was double teamed, licking the pussy of one while the other gave me a BJ. They apparently were not shy at all.
Day 10, Part Two:
PunkySpinner was supposed to be coming over all day (the Wilderbeast was a 'fallback' option'. She kept changing the time, so eventually I gave up. As much as I want to fuck her again, I'm not putting up with that.
I had TF prospects I probably could have got over, but a SW is on my mongering bucket list. I headed out and made some laps of the areas the freelancers hang out. Near TreeTown and the beach. It had been raining off and on all day, still raining. So there were limited options.
Eventually spotted one girl I liked the look of. Facially, very pretty and quite full-figured. Big boobs, narrow waist and flat stomach, wide hips and a big booty. She was very sweet. Quick discussion, then we were off to make the short walk back to my condo.
In the condo, I was treated to some very good, very passionate DFK. Then it was off to the shower. Not a spinner by any stretch of the imagination, but she was curvy and in shape. And those boobs were well done, I only realised they were fake when I got my hands on them. Showered together and she had a delightful way of soaping her body up and then sliding against mine. Never had a nuru / oil massage, but I imagine the sensations are similar.
Dried off, onto the bed for some DFK while we played with eachother. Absolutely stellar BBBJ with long stretches of deepthroat. Some DATY followed. Her pussy was pretty, tasty and very, very freshly shaved. She got quite wet.
Eventually, she pulled me up for some more kissing and then the inevitable 'Condom?' 'Not like. ' '. Cum here,' she says while patting her belly. If you insist.
Enter in missionary, she's tight and wet. Slow, sensual screw while we kiss, eventually getting faster. Love those naughty 'SLAP SLAP SLAP' sounds you get when you're really fucking a girl. With the way she's hanging on to my arse and fucking her hips up against me, found it pretty difficult to honour her request not to cum inside. Manage it, shoot all over her belly.
Cleanup, showers, it's about 8:40. Almost curfew. I give her the agreed upon 1000 thb plus 100 thb 'for taxi. ' 'Close, I walk. ' (It's about a five minute walk from where I picked her up to my condo.).
'Where?
'Back to the beach. '.
'It's almost curfew!
'I pick up my bike. '.
'If you have a bike, why did we walk here?
'Sorry, next time. '.
Got her line (though I'm unlikely to repeat) and she was off.
Two girls with fake boobs in one day, one 1000000% better than the other.
As I have a large, but regular, rotation of ladies, as time goes by I am finding which ladies go together the best.
I am also finding out that some ladies use the work for an excuse to explore the other lady. "I mao, I never do before" is what they say. But, then, they come back and do it again. There may be some truth to that, since they aren't very good at pleasing the other lady. I have seen it done by real lezzies, but these are newbies.
I heard from other ladies that one lady got drunk at a party and made a pass at another lady (in front of her boyfriend), and so I am pairing them up. Cheap entertainment for me.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2583886]Respectfully, anyone who has been to Bogota or Medellin (not including Brazil here) circa 2021 would not be saying with a straight face that its "just as easy" to get BBFS / BBBJ / CIM there as in Pattaya or SEA generally. This is what is often referred to as "Fake News. " I don't care if your penis is 24 carat solid gold- this is just not true my brother. Categorically, empirically, literally, figuratively.
I will maintain: to get the "fun stuff" in SEA does not require the same amount of work. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one my dude.[/QUOTE]I have heard it both ways from seasoned mongers who have been in and are currently in Columbia.
Perhaps it would be helpful if Lefeu elaborated on what he means by "work at it" and "put in some effort" in order to get BBFS+CIP with P4P girls there. I would be interested too, since I have not mongered in Columbia yet.
It might very well apply to all destinations, including Thailand.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2582695] Shotgun message girls on Line and ThaiFriendly. These girls all sleep late and I'm not getting many replies, or if I am they're all talking about coming in the afternoon. Nope, I WANT NOW. I become less picky and just tell the first girl that says '30 minutes' to come over. She's only been on TF for 10 days, her profile says 18. Stats are 5'1, 95 lbs. I got her Line but screened her out because she wouldn't videochat, couldn't get any pictures out of her. And the ones on her TF profile and Line were just fully clothed shots. Pretty enough though.
She arrives promptly within 30 minutes and I meet her in the lobby. Wearing a little croptop and some short shorts. From what I can see, I'm impressed! Get her up to the room, get the face mask off and she's cute. And has braces. She's shy, very smiley and doesn't speak much English. Ask to see her ID and she turned 18 two months ago. A teeny-bit of acne. But that's what your get for fucking teenagers.
Ok, this worked out very well for a last minute 'See who I can get over right now' thing. It's a curious phenomenon, but I've noticed that girls who's pictures I'm really into turn out to be a disappointment. And girl's who have very few pictures / pictures I'm not that into turn out to be pleasant surprise when they turn up. [/QUOTE]Day 11.
Invited this girl over again. (Same picture attached. I really struggle to 'bring myself out of the moment' and take pictures. And she's that shy she'd probably Sahara desert on me).
She arrives this time dressed in a really cute summer dress with some incongruously sexy leopard skin boyshorts underneath. A little flirting and talking on the couch (she barely speaks a word of English, but just jabbers away cutely.) Drag her into the shower for some soapy fun. She's that shy she's giggling away while I soap up and wash her down. After, we both brush our teeth and she can't stop giggling every time we make eye contact in the mirror.
On to the bed, divest her of her towel, get to some really sweet DFK and teasing her. Manage to go down on her this time, but she's just giggly. Some more DFK and I break out the lube (she's tiny and tight, she needs it.) Spend some time fingering her and get her warmed up. She spends ages examining the lube (just a big tube of Standard KY), like she's never seen it before. She definitely hasn't been in the game long. I would hope, given her age.
Roll on top for some more kissing, rubbing against her. She says, 'Condom. ' I say, 'We not last time. Can if want?' She doesn't say anything, so I just enter her. Slow screw in missionary, then I use my arm to bend her leg up. Lots of DFK and neck nibblin'. I can feel myself cumming too quickly, so I pull her on top of me for cowgirl. She seems to be getting into it. She's making the right noises, clenching around me and wet, really bouncing on me.
I need another interlude, so I push her back down on her back again. Legs on my shoulders / biceps and pound away again. Real deep, grindy thrusts which she seems to like, gets all flushed. Don't last long. And in a moment of 'weakness' (she was slightly annoyed at me last time with a CIP finish) I pull out and jizz on her flat little belly. Somehow, I feel 'safer' with a CIP finish. At least the girl will go off and get Plan be. Do these girls not know you can still get pregnant from precum?
After, she's all smiley and giggly again and we have a cum-fight. She scoops some on her fingertip and tries to put it in my mouth. So I retaliate by pinning her hands down and smearing some on her mouth while she giggles and screams. Weirdly cute.
After, showers and dress. We sit on the couch while she jabbers away. She's showing me her line conversations with guys who are offering to pay her twice what I have that she hasn't responded to, Yanks and Brits not in Thailand declaring their undying love etc.
She stayed maybe two hours this time (an hour of bedroom activities, an hour of just jabbering away) then leaves happy with the 1200 thb I give her.
I haven't really left the condo today, so I'm going to head out for a walk in a little while. Probably return, alone. Tomorrow I have my pre-flight Covid test at the International Hospital (fly early hours on the 28th.).
19 year old spinner who's pictures I really like the look of and have been bombarding for a response finally responded and gave me her line while I was waiting for the 18 year old cutie to show up. She's very 'pro / porno' in conversation, wanting to come now, saying she needs dick etc. She videocalls me unprompted and she looks like her pictures, lying on her bed in a night t-shirt (seriously, why can't these girls get out of bed?) English is very good, we chat a bit, she asks if I'm alone. Yes. Then she flashes me, lifting up the t-shirt so I can see her entire body. Very, very nice.
In a message after, she calls me 'Handsome British boy. ' Pretty much every other girl here has guessed I'm a Yank.
I put her off with some excuse about going to eat and drink with my friend who is going back to the UK tomorrow. Which turns out to be the right call. Inevitably, MonkeyPaw knows her and has fucked her. First time GFE and good, second time 'pro' when she realises you're not going to girlfriend her up.
Have a date set tomorrow for 1 pm. Clueless newbie Brit (shouldn't be hard) it is, if she shows up. Kind of intrigued by how 'raunchy' she is. If that carries on through to the bedroom, should be a good time.
Message from Cutie With A Booty of Phuket fame late last night. She sent something, unsent it. I responded with a smilie, then I got 'the story. ' Daughter in the hospital ICU with a serious chest infection, she wants to go home to Buriram to see her. I tell her some options. Nok Air is flying Phuket to Pattaya and from Pattaya to other locations in a couple of days, in a couple of the Facebook Phuket groups I follow, there's Sandboxers organising group taxis to BKK etc. She's responding 'can't wait, need to go now. ' No request for money has been forthcoming and she's 'backed off' a little today, saying her condition is improving.
I'll be a little sad if I do get a money request (I already have from Punky Tattooed Chick for rent money) as I really liked her. But then, I suppose that's 'the game. ' We fuck them for pocket money and then leave and forget them (I have every intention of deleting Line and my fake Facebook when I leave), they know this and try to milk a little more out of us.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2584251]I have heard it both ways from seasoned mongers who have been in and are currently in Columbia.
Perhaps it would be helpful if Lefeu elaborated on what he means by "work at it" and "put in some effort" in order to get BBFS+CIP with P4P girls there. I would be interested too, since I have not mongered in Columbia yet.
It might very well apply to all destinations, including Thailand.[/QUOTE]First, let me start by saying that I have taken 25+ trips to Colombia since 2013, mostly to Medellin plus a few trips to Cartagena. I also speak decent Spanish. In addition, I met a few expats there over the years, and received quite a few hints and intel on particular girls. I view this as part of "work at it".
Over the years, I developed a stable of girls among the ones that I liked. I made it clear to them of my preference for bb, but I never insisted on it. Eventually, after a few sessions all of them agreed to it, except one. I now have about 8 girls in my harem, and 7 out of 8 are bb with no condition. Some of them at first requested cov, but after a few sessions they started to believe my story about my vasectomy, which I did many years ago. In other words, I managed to develop trust with the girls. It also helps that I am fairly generous with tips.
I use pretty much the same methods in SEA, except that I only travel there once a year, due to the long travel duration and the changes in time zones. I never attempted to develop a stable in SEA because I cannot get there often enough. I am still pleased with my bb results there.
Slow day yesterday. I had a massage lady come over for massage plus fuck in the morning.
Then 2 bargirls came over in the afternoon. After pestering me for days to come over, they showed up late, and then announced they had to leave early. One kept checking her cellphone. So, I just wasn't in the mood to deal with them, and dispatched them early. I will put them at the bottom of the queue.
Today, I have a massage lady who gives me a long prostate massage, and then two bargirls. But one is a seasoned pro with many customers, so she is pretty much not going to do anything. My experience is that bargirls with customers or Thai boyfriends aren't that much fun. So they go on the bottom of the queue. But, there are only 7 days in the week, and the queue is long.
I saw a Russian hooker in the building today. I hadn't considered they would still be around.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2584359]First, let me start by saying that I have taken 25+ trips to Colombia since 2013, mostly to Medellin plus a few trips to Cartagena. I also speak decent Spanish. In addition, I met a few expats there over the years, and received quite a few hints and intel on particular girls. I view this as part of "work at it".
Over the years, I developed a stable of girls among the ones that I liked. I made it clear to them of my preference for bb, but I never insisted on it. Eventually, after a few sessions all of them agreed to it, except one. I now have about 8 girls in my harem, and 7 out of 8 are bb with no condition. Some of them at first requested cov, but after a few sessions they started to believe my story about my vasectomy, which I did many years ago. In other words, I managed to develop trust with the girls. It also helps that I am fairly generous with tips.
I use pretty much the same methods in SEA, except that I only travel there once a year, due to the long travel duration and the changes in time zones. I never attempted to develop a stable in SEA because I cannot get there often enough. I am still pleased with my bb results there.[/QUOTE]I've been to Pattaya, Chaingmai, BKK, never had much luck with BB service. Also traveled a good bit to other places. The last few years, I've started negotiating BB before the date is set up. I would say at least 80% agreed to it before the date. Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. In Mexico, BB service no problem. Even in Cuba, no problem. I convince them I have had a vasectomy and that I am clean. I have had a few ask for a text to prove no STD's and I agreed to provide, but never had to. They ultimately would tell me that they trust me.
Headed back to Guadalajara in August. Already have several dates lined up. BB service is already agreed to.
I started off with a massage, but the lady spent 30 minutes on my prostate and balls. After she left, it felt like I had come. Weird.
But, I had 2 ladies come over after. Nothing really developed, they didn't click, and so they left a bit early.
Tomorrow will be pretty much the same, which is probably good for me, I could use a rest. I don't expect much until Wednesday when I have 2 ladies come who are bi-curious, for real.
Meanwhile, new cases are approaching 1,000 for Chonburi so I don't know how much longer I can buy alcohol.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2584630]...I saw a Russian hooker in the building today. I hadn't considered they would still be around.[/QUOTE]Did you hit on the Russian lady? I know I would after banging just Thais all the time. A change can boost libido.
[QUOTE=Bdb013;2584736]I've been to Pattaya, Chaingmai, BKK, never had much luck with BB service. Also traveled a good bit to other places. The last few years, I've started negotiating BB before the date is set up. I would say at least 80% agreed to it before the date. Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. In Mexico, BB service no problem. Even in Cuba, no problem. I convince them I have had a vasectomy and that I am clean. I have had a few ask for a text to prove no STD's and I agreed to provide, but never had to. They ultimately would tell me that they trust me.
Headed back to Guadalajara in August. Already have several dates lined up. BB service is already agreed to.[/QUOTE]Interesting that what does not work for you in Thailand but does work for you in so many other places is exactly what has for years worked for me in Bangkok; simply negotiate an upfront agreement for BB before taking or meeting the girl.
However, nether negotiating upfront, "going with the flow and seeing what happens in the room", offering more money, praying or anything else I am willing to do (I want to fuck atractive, sober women usually in the evening soon after dinnertime, say about 9-10 pm) worked very well for me in Pattaya.
Different strokes for different folks, as they say.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2584760]Did you hit on the Russian lady? I know I would after banging just Thais all the time. A change can boost libido.[/QUOTE]She was pretty clearly in a hurry to get out after coming down the elevator, and by the time I realized who she was, she was gone.
The main point is that there are still Russian hookers in Pattaya, the question is how to find them.
[QUOTE=Bdb013;2584736] Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. [/QUOTE]I skimmed your posts, it looks like you use SA and other online options quite a bit. I don't doubt your post, but I think if you were mongering face 2 face, and tried to find BB in Bogota's Santa Fe Clubs, Clubs in Chapinero, and Casa's on both Mde and Bogota you would have a much different result.
That's what's lost in this discussion- a monger will say something like "well actually I have no problem with getting BBBJ at all in x, y, z location", but the thing they leave out is that its with girls they've known a long time and is something they've cultivated or some other piece of important context. Once this extra info is given, I have no reason to doubt the claim- but if you leave out the supporting details and don't provide the frame, the average guy reading this will be thinking they can just land in SF in Bogota, drop in to Fiebre, Atunes, Venus and expect to receive anything raw with a little bit of convincing- which is just not true.
I'm only a sample size of one, but in SF Bogota, that method worked about 1/7 times and a substantial propina was expected. On the flipside, half my sessions in Thailand, most of them in Cambodia, and just about all in the Philippines were either BBJ, or BBFS.
Day 12 -.
Frustrating as fuck day. Three girls flake on me (including the Flasher from yesterday), there's hardly any freelancers around. Response rate on TF and Line is absurdly low, a sure thing from MonkeyPaw has her period. Finally, by about 7:30 pm (an hour and a half to go for curfew), Miss Long and Lean's pimp responds and she arrives in about 15 minutes. I'm tired, semi-drunk and annoyed, so it isn't a great session, anal is off the cards (I sore), but at least I cum in her mouth this time.
MonkeyPaw reckons it's the Buddhist holidays causing my issues.
Leaving for BKK about 7/8 pm tonight, so I've got chance (and just enough energy, it's been a long trip), for one last girl. Miss Flasher from yesterday is all apologetic (My boyfriend not leave me alone all day, blah blah blah), sending me pictures and videos. She does a little 'sexy schoolgirl' act that I'm finding intriguing. Very few of the girls have been actually raunchy, just sweet and GFE. Might just be the thing I'm needing. Date re-scheduled for today at 2 pm but I'm doubtful.
A couple of other TF prospects. And if all else fails, I'm going to hit up a massage shop.
On the subject of bareback, most of my encounters here have been. (I think I've got through about 10 condoms in a month, most of them with one girl in Phuket, some in massage shops and with a couple of pro pros.) Quite a lot of the girls haven't even brought them up, just let me enter. Memorably, PunkySpinner from the other day specifying 'with condom' in text, then putting me inside her bareback at her own volition. The ones that have mentioned it pretty much took the tiniest nudge 'I not like' to forget about them, even ones that specify it in Line conversation. 75% of the bareback has been CIP / or with CIP not discussed (and therefore assumed to be OK), though on a few instances I have pulled out to cum elsewhere.
I've tried with a few girls to negotiate bareback upfront and got point blank refusals, so I'm very much in the 'go with the flow' camp. YMMV. I'm here in pretty lean times, the girls are hurting for money.
One of my regulars asked me to have her younger sister over, so I agreed. But I had no idea who the younger sister would bring.
I hit the jackpot, the sister brought along a silicon enhanced hottie from Soi 6. I have seen her on Livestream before, never in the flesh. Wow, wow, wow.
After a few drinks, she was giving me naked lap dances, while I fingerfucked the other lady. And then I switched them off, got BJs, licked pussies, big fun.
And then I ushered them out, 2 ladies coming soon for the next shift.
[QUOTE=JJanni;2585057]Day 12 -.
On the subject of bareback, most of my encounters here have been. (I think I've got through about 10 condoms in a month, most of them with one girl in Phuket, some in massage shops and with a couple of pro pros.) Quite a lot of the girls haven't even brought them up, just let me enter. Memorably, PunkySpinner from the other day specifying 'with condom' in text, then putting me inside her bareback at her own volition. The ones that have mentioned it pretty much took the tiniest nudge 'I not like' to forget about them, even ones that specify it in Line conversation. 75% of the bareback has been CIP / or with CIP not discussed (and therefore assumed to be OK), though on a few instances I have pulled out to cum elsewhere. I've tried with a few girls to negotiate bareback upfront and got point blank refusals, so I'm very much in the 'go with the flow' camp. YMMV. I'm here in pretty lean times, the girls are hurting for money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for providing graphic reports with the girls' age (young), height (petite) and weight (light). Specifics on foot size (small), hip (narrow), breast (small), vagina (hairless), head (large), hair (long) and nails (natural) are just as much appreciated. And how you came in or on them, all make for good reading. Keep the reports coming. We envy you. Going with the flow is often the right advice. Many girls are annoyed by condoms or by any type of preparation and can be swayed while hot and horny. Some negotiate a little extra mid in sex play for bareback penetration and it can be horny as hell seeing hem give way for 15 dollars or so. When they ask me, what about you cumming in me, I often reply, I will cum in your face and hair, sweety, don't worry. That resolves the issue and makes the facial an operation desirable to the young bird. Last year after unleashing my sexual energy on a petite young cambo girl bareback, I switched to her anus. She was astonished, crossed her legs so I could have my way, gave a precious strained look for a minute or so and then eased over in orgasmic blizz. Would not have happened by discussing it upfront. When the girls are teenagers, 18 or 19 why, amateurs, semis or new to this line of work, the risk of STD is low. I facialled her anyway. And she smiled.
Last night I had 2 ladies who got smashed and were doing naked twerking. I am getting burned out from fucking, so it was okay to just sit back and watch.
Some general observations:
I set up some stage lights at my place, and set them to change colors while sound activated. So, it's a thing for the ladies to clap to change colors. If I forget to turn on the stage lights, they let me know.
Invariably if I give a lady a chance to come over in the early afternoon or at night, they want to come at night. But, I try to schedule the ladies with boyfriends to come in the day.
Sometimes I catch one lady giving instructions to the other, mostly telling them to give blowjobs. I don't know what that's about.
I do have ladies come over just to fuck. One of them gives me a massage just before a quickie. She is also a bit high maintenance in terms of messages, she sends me messages early in the morning and at night. It's kind of weird because she has a girlfriend.
In general, I don't give any instructions to the ladies who come in pairs, which makes it more fun when they get randy. I don't know if they are horny, pretending to be horny, or maybe pretending to be horny makes them horny.
Covid is really hitting hard, so I may have to limit ladies to those who live together. Yeah, I know every lady goes out with customers who could be Covid positive.
[QUOTE=Philosophus;2585299]Thanks for providing graphic reports with the girls' age (young), height (petite) and weight (light). Specifics on foot size (small), hip (narrow), breast (small), vagina (hairless), head (large), hair (long) and nails (natural) are just as much appreciated. And how you came in or on them, all make for good reading. Keep the reports coming. We envy you. Going with the flow is often the right advice. Many girls are annoyed by condoms or by any type of preparation and can be swayed while hot and horny. Some negotiate a little extra mid in sex play for bareback penetration and it can be horny as hell seeing hem give way for 15 dollars or so. When they ask me, what about you cumming in me, I often reply, I will cum in your face and hair, sweety, don't worry. That resolves the issue and makes the facial an operation desirable to the young bird. Last year after unleashing my sexual energy on a petite young cambo girl bareback, I switched to her anus. She was astonished, crossed her legs so I could have my way, gave a precious strained look for a minute or so and then eased over in orgasmic blizz. Would not have happened by discussing it upfront. When the girls are teenagers, 18 or 19 why, amateurs, semis or new to this line of work, the risk of STD is low. I facialled her anyway. And she smiled.[/QUOTE]"Go with the flow and see what happens in the room" is fine as long as you can still get some P4P value out of an experience where no sexual performance and finish is possible wearing a condom for those 10%, 20%, 50% or whatever percentage of times the "go with the flow" method leads directly to the girl still refusing to go bareback. I am talking about those of us where "Must wear condom" is the same as saying "There will be no sex for you at this time." Yes, I know a BBBJ+CIM is still a possible option, but only if the girl agrees to it and can and wants to be minimally competent at it. And, sorry, handjobs are not ever going to be a fallback position for me for any amount of money. Or even for free for that matter. And I consider pulling out of anything to "cum on" something to be a handjob at best (if she does the finishing) and masturbation at worst (if I do the finishing).
Consequently, mentioning it, discussing it or outright negotiating for bareback upfront before I take the girl from her bar, club, stroll or meet the dating site P4P girl is by far the better option if having sex and cumming during the planned session matters to me.
Then again, the 3 simple criteria I mentioned previously for the girl to be attractive, sober and for us to have the session by about 9-10PM, already eliminated me from most of the "go with the flow" contest during normal times. lol. I suspect trying to achieve any 2 of those three criteria time and time again would have messed up a lot of self-claimed high percentage rates of getting BBFS+CIP using the "go with the flow" method in the Thai P4P scene.
Some people here will be disappointed, but I instructed a lady last night to put a condom on me before sex. These ladies have seen too many customers to take a chance.
Back in the UK and plotting my next escape!
Day 13:
Woke up early to sort out all the normal pre-flight bollocks. Last few days have been frustrating with the girls, all the flakes and low response rate. Chatting with MP, he suggested a new strategy. Offer over the odds to get them running to you.
Two girls I was most interested in. Porno Schoolgirl and Punky Spinner. I messaged '2 pm, 2000 baht if you're not late. ' The race of the flakes was on! While waiting for them, I set up dates with more girls - 3 pm, 4 pm, 5 pm.
Porno Schoolgirl took an early lead, messaging me videos and pictures of her getting ready. Punky Spinner responded late, so I thought she was going to be left in the loser's lobby. Porno Schoolgirl threw it away at 1:45 pm with 'I do my makeup, 20 minutes. ' Punky Spinner turned up at 2:07 pm, which I judged close enough to be not late by Thai standards.
She turned up this time with a new hair do (a shorter bob in a different shade of blue), wearing a stretchy button down the back minidress. Straight to the couch for DFK, undressing her. Then I sent her off for a shower (I'd just had one.) She strolled out, nude afterwards and I could see that pretty little pussy had been freshly shaved that morning. Smooth.
On to the bed for more kissing and rolling around and I went down on her. Last time, the oral didn't seem to do much for her (this time it did), getting very wet and her pussy blossoming open like a flower. Got her close, but I don't think she came. Another kiss while I was all grooly with her juices (hot), then into a BBBJ while I fingered her. Stellar, gagging herself on my dick and not complaining when I fucked her face.
Enough of that, into missionary with her legs on my shoulders. BBFS. Hammer away and she was making the right noises, really seeming to enjoy herself. Span her into cowgirl and the girl went to town on me. I think punishing me for how rough I was last time. Really, really bouncing on my dick, grinding her hips into mine while arching her back, moaning and running her hands up herself. Before long, I inevitably cum in her. But she wouldn't stop! Pretty sensitive after I've just come, so I grab her in a bearhug and hold her still. She gets the message.
She just sits on me, while we pant and laugh about how sweaty we both are. She's not making any move to get off of me. And I'm still hard. After maybe five minutes, I let her start going again. She's pretty determined to get herself off on my dick, moving around and adjusting to get the angle 'just right. ' At first for me, it's that post-coital 'bleh, I'm not interested, I just came. ' but then it starts to feel good again. She's back up to full pelt again, bouncing on me (I've got bruise marks on my thighs from her arse.) Feel her clench on me when she cums, staying hilted, but I'm close to cumming again too, so I pushed her back and finish in missionary. Second time in 20-30 minutes I cum in her.
Lie on top of her after, while she strokes my back and peppers me with kisses. Pull out of her (I remembered to put down a towel this time) and we just lie next to eachother, half-dozing. After ten minutes, we get up and shower together.
Go for a smoke, laze around on the couch for a bit (she isn't in a hurry to leave.) Eventually she does, I check my phone. Missed calls and messages from Porno Schoolgirl an hour late, asking if she can come. Which I ignore. I'm exhausted, spent, so I cancel my remaining dates for the day and fall asleep on the couch.
Done. A nice end to my time in Pattaya and I don't feel the need to force anymore action into the day. I'm already plotting on going somewhere else 11/12 August, so it's not like I have to cram everything in before being trapped in the UK for a year.
Wake up about 6, take my time packing and finally head to the airport about 7:30 pm.
Two sets of ladies today.
The first pair was a silicon enhanced older lady with a Thai boyfriend who has come before. She is a bit reserved, but will play. The other lady was new, a Livestream girl was I have seen in the bar before. After a couple of hours, she was my new best friend, or rather, my dick's new best friend.
The second set were two older ladies who were looking for a hookup, have drinks, make money, fuck each other. Next time, they will probably skip coming to my place and spend the night together. The only issue is they may need a dick in the mix for reasons.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2585824]Some people here will be disappointed, but I instructed a lady last night to put a condom on me before sex.....[/QUOTE]Well, that's selfish. What about us readers who want to be titillated by BBFS exploits!
[QUOTE=JJanni;2585964]Back in the UK and plotting my next escape![/QUOTE]Thanks for the month of great reports. It will certainly give you something to think about next time you find yourself bored in the middle of the ocean.
Your trip timing was perfect. With uncontrollable growth in Thai COVID, it may be impossible to repeat that trip for many months or even years. I'm just hoping I can get there before it gets insanely hot in April 2022.
I had an overnighter last night, she stuck around in the AM until my massage lady showed up to give me a serious prostate massage.
Then I had a brief rest until two ladies showed up in the mid afternoon for drinks and sex. There was rolling around on the sofa, they switched off doing BJs, begging me to fuck them, it was kind of tiring having to deal with 2 ladies at once. They left before curfew after I promised to have them back in a few days.
Tomorrow, I have a single lady coming at 11.00 to help me shop for more alcohol, and then 2 ladies later in the day. One of them has an OnlyFans site, I get to have her for 1000 baht for the afternoon.
The rumor is a heavy lockdown is coming. I have no idea how that will impact my activities, one possibility is that I will simply have every lady coming over for Long Time, maybe 2 at a time. If alcohol sales are prohibited then it's going to be a long month.
An odd episode: I had 2 ladies come over a few nights ago, and they went at it licking each others' pussies, rolling around my bed, there was screaming so loud I thought the police would come. But the next day, one complained to her friends that she didn't like any of it, she was just working. I heard about that, and asked her if she wanted to change ladies. Nope, in fact, after they come over next time, they are going to sleepover together somewhere.
It's all a mystery to me. I can't hope to understand women. Maybe denial is one way to cope with discovering you're a dyke.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2586865]An odd episode: I had 2 ladies come over a few nights ago, and they went at it licking each others' pussies, rolling around my bed, there was screaming so loud I thought the police would come. But the next day, one complained to her friends that she didn't like any of it, she was just working. I heard about that, and asked her if she wanted to change ladies. Nope, in fact, after they come over next time, they are going to sleepover together somewhere.
It's all a mystery to me. I can't hope to understand women. Maybe denial is one way to cope with discovering you're a dyke.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha. Your post put a Saturday morning smile on my face.
BTW Exp, just out of curiosity, where are you sourcing your girls from during this current shutdown?
[QUOTE=JJanni;2585964]Back in the UK and plotting my next escape!
Day 13:
Take my time packing and finally head to the airport about 7:30 pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports, fun reading them and looks like no animals were harmed in the making of this movie.
Am totally stealing your name filing system, let me know what the royalty fees are.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2586881]Ha Ha. Your post put a Saturday morning smile on my face.
BTW Exp, just out of curiosity, where are you sourcing your girls from during this current shutdown?[/QUOTE]I started off inviting ladies from a bar I frequent. Then friends of those ladies, and then friends of those friends. I use Facebook Messenger to keep in touch, and I don't use Line.
It is a very different vibe than barfining ladies before Covid, they are very eager to please. Of course, they all tell poverty stories, but also complain about lack of sex, if they don't have a boyfriend. Or some complain about crappy sex if they have a boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2586863] If alcohol sales are prohibited then it's going to be a long month.[/QUOTE]Idk how they are working during this time, but winecheap duty free website is legit and a great place to source booze from. Real stuff 100% (I've ordered for years on and off from them) but not stuff you can resell.
We dodged a bullet, no major changes to Covid restrictions were announced.
I had a lady in the early afternoon, she was a bit low energy. The ladies with Thai boyfriends or lots of customers are pretty much like that.
Two ladies later in the day were better, but one was a clock watcher, it was like watching a taxi meter. So I will split them up in the future.
Tomorrow I will take a day off from drinking.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2585493]"Go with the flow and see what happens in the room" is fine as long as you can still get some P4P value out of an experience where no sexual performance and finish is possible wearing a condom for those 10%, 20%, 50% or whatever percentage of times the "go with the flow" method leads directly to the girl still refusing to go bareback. I am talking about those of us where "Must wear condom" is the same as saying "There will be no sex for you at this time." Yes, I know a BBBJ+CIM is still a possible option, but only if the girl agrees to it and can and wants to be minimally competent at it. And, sorry, handjobs are not ever going to be a fallback position for me for any amount of money. Or even for free for that matter. And I consider pulling out of anything to "cum on" something to be a handjob at best (if she does the finishing) and masturbation at worst (if I do the finishing).
Consequently, mentioning it, discussing it or outright negotiating for bareback upfront before I take the girl from her bar, club, stroll or meet the dating site P4P girl is by far the better option if having sex and cumming during the planned session matters to me.
Then again, the 3 simple criteria I mentioned previously for the girl to be attractive, sober and for us to have the session by about 9-10PM, already eliminated me from most of the "go with the flow" contest during normal times. lol. I suspect trying to achieve any 2 of those three criteria time and time again would have messed up a lot of self-claimed high percentage rates of getting BBFS+CIP using the "go with the flow" method in the Thai P4P scene.[/QUOTE]The case for agreeing on things upfront is strong. I meant to plead for flexibility. I meant to say that pleading during play for extras such as BBBJ, BBFS, CIP, CIM, CIF or anilingus is often successful for ridiculously little money. Why? The young girl is horny. The young girl has come to know you and becomes more trusting. Any smart young girl does have a vested interest in getting you off, for men get peaceful in the act. I only go with real pretty, young lookers. I disagree with EihTooms that a good licking and an oral finish are not an acceptable ending. In fact even a well delivered double handed mano job cannot be replicated by masturbating. A lubed finger on your anus can be exhilerating. Most good porn flicks end with a rich facial and hair shot. The whole P4 P biz used to be dominated by oral sex and esp. Oral endings before condoms became available.
[QUOTE=Philosophus;2588655]..
I disagree with EihTooms that a good licking and an oral finish are not an acceptable ending. In fact even a well delivered double handed mano job cannot be replicated by masturbating. A lubed finger on your anus can be exhilerating. Most good porn flicks end with a rich facial and hair shot. The whole P4 P biz used to be dominated by oral sex and esp. Oral endings before condoms became available.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I am not sure how you got that an "oral finish or oral ending" is not acceptable to me. I have always been in favor of a BBBJ+CIM option where BBFS+CIP is not agreed to by the lady. There are times when I prefer an oral finish or ending over a CIP finish. I will even happily take a girl who agrees upfront to that when she will not agree upfront to a BBFS+CIP. And, yeah, that is when I am fine to "go with the flow" and many a girl has then gotten into it with me enough, gotten horny enough to change her mind about not allowing BBFS+CIP.
I only dismissed BBBJ+CIM as a reliable fall back service in the post you quoted in that saying nothing upfront about either a CIP or a CIM finish means I might find out at crunch time that she isn't going to provide EITHER kind of finish. Or in the case of BBBJ+CIM it turns out she either is in fact or is only pretending to be utterly inept at the act. I have had plenty of sessions go that way when I have not cleared it upfront before I take the girl and, yes, even with girls who were frothing at the mouth crazy horny and soaking the bed with natural pussy lube. LOL.
Unless the money is very little and whether I finish or not this time with this girl is quite unimportant, there is no reason not to clear up one or both kinds of finish with a P4P girl before I take her. It requires no more than one or two sentences of about 7 seconds in length.
No, my only objections FOR ME in the post you quoted was about "pulling out to CUM ON" whatever. That includes pulling out of her mouth to cum on her face, in her ear, on her tits or out an open window, none of which do I consider an "oral finish or oral ending."
Btw, just wondering, do you think those porn actors pull out of their sex partner's pussy or mouth and masturbate a finish onto their girl's stomach, face or tits when they are engaged in a private sexual encounter behind closed doors without a camera rolling in the room to film the "money shot" essentially meant to prove to a porn audience that they finished? I don't think for one minute that is how those porn actors choose to finish in their off camera, personal sexual encounters.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2588676]Hmm. No, my only objections FOR ME in the post you quoted was about "pulling out to CUM ON" whatever. That includes pulling out of her mouth to cum on her face, in her ear, on her tits or out an open window, none of which do I consider an "oral finish or oral ending." Btw, just wondering, do you think those porn actors pull out of their sex partner's pussy or mouth and masturbate a finish onto their girl's stomach, face or tits when they are engaged in a private sexual encounter behind closed doors without a camera rolling in the room to film the "money shot" essentially meant to prove to a porn audience that they finished? I don't think for one minute that is how those porn actors choose to finish in their off camera, personal sexual encounters.[/QUOTE]When with a personal lover, I suppose a porn actor CIP or CI anus or let the young girl get them off with her tongue, lips, throat and hands. I was more thinking of enjoying P4 P to the fullest. For me making the young bird submit to me and to put her in her place, to make her sweat and to take her power over me away, meaning to deep throat, skull fuck, penetrate as deep as possible in the tightest orifice possible and to facial her are part of the pleasure. That works better in P4 P than with lovers. 4 hands do more good than 2. A good love girl finds balls, anus, legs or tummy to carress even if the sperm jet is administered by her lover.
I am still at it, it's like a job to me, scheduling the ladies, shopping for alcohol (not as easy as you might think), plus trying to fit daily chores into the short time when ladies aren't here. The ladies who come alone will message me asking for a time slot.
Today, I have 2 showing up around noon, and 2 coming at 4 pm. Then an overnighter will come when they leave.
Because Covid is so bad, I am cutting down on pairs who don't live together or otherwise hang out together.
I am trying to remember what happened yesterday, but it's kind of a blur. I had one lady who came for the first time. She had just a few drinks and passed out. I heard her throwing up in the toilet, and then she emerged and announced she had a customer and had to leave immediately. Wow. Amazingly, with a couple of hours, she posted a photo of herself on Facebook.