Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3052753]You have to understand, or not.

I write in shorthand because I have been in Rio for 2140 days continuously, fucking Brazilian women every day, some 4 at a time, sometimes picking up swing girls at a beach and fucking them too, with those 30 year old MILFs taking my dick out of their pussy I fuck for 40 minutes in front of their husbands and putting it up their ass so I will finally blow a load, bare up their ass.

My penis is a pen that expresses itself, Ben Franklin like through the keyboard on my thinkpad, for posterity.

I appreciate your writing in its own regard, all 116 posts, some of them taken down or edited for being argumentative. My posts too have been edited for being argumentative. Being argumentative is a style of writing that makes it interesting. Hemingway was a boxer, hitting the bag down at the pool which was overlooked by his writing office there in Key West where a James Bond film was filmed.

I like a good sparring partner, just like I like a good hoar to bang for 115 minutes a day on the days she takes a moto uber from del castillo in zona norte to spread her legs and fuck..[/QUOTE]You're the last somebody that anyone should listen to about going to a nice place. You with your "cost per fuck per nanosecond" calculations LOL! I mean, you would rather fuck under the wafting stench of the sewer in Vila Mimosa before paying to enjoy nicer environs. That is, unless it's that packed and lively bastion of deluxe known as Centaurus. Hahahaha!

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3053586]Your high post count is not a badge of honor, its self absorbed narcissistic habit that is better suited to a blog. Instead you have hijacked a forum and made it almost unreadable. 90% of what you post makes no sense at all and is utterly illegible. The advice you are sharing is geared more towards trying to justify your spending habits and lifestyle than it is providing other people on this forum with any sort of guidance or desire to share info. A perfect example is you trying to pass off Centaurus to people as being the equivalent of Scandallo. What do you gain by intentionally misleading people who don't have the opportunity to travel frequently?

I would contribute more, but frankly its pointless because everything is droned out by your endless pages of text and constant derailing of conversations that get nuked before they have any chance to develop. All it is from you is random bullshit with slang no sane person understands throwing around names of hookers like we should know who your negra pornstar obsessions are or why anyone would care about "cost per fuck per minute" as if any sane person would log this kind of stupid shit..[/QUOTE]Excellent description of a writer with endless salads of words without any content.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3053586]Your high post count is not a badge of honor, its self absorbed narcissistic habit that is better suited to a blog. Instead you have hijacked a forum and made it almost unreadable. 90% of what you post makes no sense at all and is utterly illegible. The advice you are sharing is geared more towards trying to justify your spending habits and lifestyle than it is providing other people on this forum with any sort of guidance or desire to share info. A perfect example is you trying to pass off Centaurus to people as being the equivalent of Scandallo. What do you gain by intentionally misleading people who don't have the opportunity to travel frequently?

I would contribute more, but frankly its pointless because everything is droned out by your endless pages of text and constant derailing of conversations that get nuked before they have any chance to develop. All it is from you is random bullshit with slang no sane person understands throwing around names of hookers like we should know who your negra pornstar obsessions are or why anyone would care about "cost per fuck per minute" as if any sane person would log this kind of stupid shit.

You are a legend only in your own mind.

I won't bother engaging with you further, and its likely this won't make it past the moderators who seem to treat you like a protected species to the detriment of this forum. This forum would see far more traffic if Vagabundo did not need to be the center of attention his entire life.[/QUOTE]The dude is exagerating a lot of things, but a lots of info he give still valualble info. I consumed a lot of them for my trip and the overall was legit. Lots of people are exagerating there experience on board like this, a 6 become a 9 in a lots of post. I seen post on thailand board in which expat was talking about girls like if they was Lucy Liu and Tia Carrere in their prime to realize they was in fact old girls in their 40 with baby damage who was the favorite blow job queen of some random dark alley in pattaya.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3053643]For [B]anyone[/B] to suggest that Centaurus is good these days, let alone better than Scandallo, is quite an outrageous assertion. And this is coming from someone who used to be a huge Centaurus fan and who used to defend it when the Cheap Charliies would attack it back in the day for being too expensive. And now they're saying Centaurus is worthy? It's as if the world has turned upside down! Centaurus was the first termas I ever went to, and I have so many good memories of the place. But alas, it no longer is what it was. As I have said, just a sad shell of its former self. And for anyone to suggest otherwise, well they're just doing the readership a great disservice. Could things have turned around some? Well maybe, but don't just take one guy's word for it. Especially "that" guy. No, we would need more reports from the field to confirm. A lot more![/QUOTE]Girls in centaurus are ok, but the real problem is to access it. There is no metro station near it and the traffic jams are insane into this direction from copa, centro and barra. I would pay the taxi to go there if the quality of the girls was a sure value each visit, but its far to be the case. Going there to see the line up mean risking to lost 300 br on a deception. Other place like monte carlo and 4 x4 and even the prive in centro are a lot easier and cheaper to access. I didn't visited Scandalo yet, but according to what I read abooiut it, you spend 1000 br but each hit there is a grand slam. I fucked some very cute girls in centaurus but none of them was memorable.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3053728]The dude is exagerating a lot of things, but a lots of info he give still valualble info. I consumed a lot of them for my trip and the overall was legit. Lots of people are exagerating there experience on board like this, a 6 become a 9 in a lots of post. I seen post on thailand board in which expat was talking about girls like if they was Lucy Liu and Tia Carrere in their prime to realize they was in fact old girls in their 40 with baby damage who was the favorite blow job queen of some random dark alley in pattaya.

Girls in centaurus are ok, but the real problem is to access it. There is no metro station near it and the traffic jams are insane into this direction from copa, centro and barra. I would pay the taxi to go there if the quality of the girls was a sure value each visit, but its far to be the case. Going there to see the line up mean risking to lost 300 br on a deception. Other place like monte carlo and 4 x4 and even the prive in centro are a lot easier and cheaper to access. I didn't visited Scandalo yet, but according to what I read abooiut it, you spend 1000 br but each hit there is a grand slam. I fucked some very cute girls in centaurus but none of them was memorable.[/QUOTE]There is a metro station 200 m away from Centaurus, its right outside Osorio Park.

The major issue with Centaurus is not even cost and a decline in quality, its that the terma has become a breeding ground for hyenas who can't take no for an answer. Its a nuisance if you just want to have a few drinks with friends before you make a decision on something, and you need to get downright nasty with some of these women. It is not pleasant at all. To compare the women in Centaurus, let alone the club itself to Scandallo is so ridiculous I have to think that Vagabundo has not even been into Scandallo and has been scared away by the price. Its night and day. Centaurus would struggle to even crack the top 10 boates in Sao Paulo, let alone being on par with Scandallo. Its not even the best terma in Rio, yet he dishes out this advice while he goes off on a tirade about Russians and cars? As if anyone who is not mentally disabled could understand what he is talking about.

That's not to say that I think Rio is worse than SP, I fucking LOVE Rio. SP just has better clubs and that's a fact. Rio beats it in other areas. Be honest about this to people.

As for Vag's posts, the sheer volume of them is going to produce the odd nugget of gold I am sure. That's if you can even make sense of what he is posting in the first place though, and honestly given his tastes for favella rats where he can maximize his "cost per fuck per minute" he is not the sort to be taking advice from lightly in what is a dangerous city. Half of it is a personal fantasy and brag session he thinks impresses people. If he could just tone it down a bit and speak like a human being he would get a far more favourable response from people and offer the value he says he is trying to provide. However it does not appear that value is what motivates him, instead its an endless life updates written in a way that only he can understand as he derails topic after topic handing out bad advice to people who often have only short trips into the country!

Compare his posts to someone like Axel, Cane, Sperto, XSpartan, etc. You don't need to agree with everything they say or their point of view, but they have not turned the forum in an endless personal masturbation session for their egos.

This is the last I will bother with Vagabundo because I have said my piece and I am not a massive contributor who is placed to throw any weight around, but I will tell you now that this forum would see far more activity from others if he cut the shit.

Thanks to everyone else who contributes as much as they do for the forum though, your insight over the years has been invaluable.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3053728]Girls in centaurus are ok, but the real problem is to access it. There is no metro station near it and the traffic jams are insane into this direction from copa, centro and barra.[/QUOTE]Metro General Osório is less than 300 m away.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3052655]Further to barra the Tijuca. As toastmonger69 showed. Grand Hyatt barra is the call.

You are really missing something if you do not at least book a few nights there.

Lucio costa 9600 or something like that.

[URL]google.com[/URL]/ maps / place / Av. +Lcio+Costa,+9600+-+Barra+the+Tijuca,+Rio+de+Janeiro+-+RJ,+22795-007/ data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x9 bdbaa26 e786 db:0 x3 fd8 d68 e144 c60 f2?sa=X&ved=1 t:242&ictx=111.

I mean, yeah, that is the right address.

He is some kind of points genius and he got me in there on the executive lounge and breakfasts and even let me use his suite there on the last night, and that place is top tier..[/QUOTE]I second the recommendation for the Grand Hyatt. I always carve out a 3-4 day stay there when in Rio.

Even the regular rooms are nice, but suites are truly awesome. And booking a suite gives you access to the (excellent) lounge. Same for booking a club room. And yes, I believe the lounge is worth it.

The pool is fantastic, and the pool service prices are reasonable. The beach across the road is never full. The sushi restaurant is out of this world (I like it better than Leblon Sushi), but pricey.

Next to the Pesceiro restaurant there is an Argentinian steak house. They will bring you the meats before cooking so you can choose.

That said, Hyatt is a resort. I wouldn't stay there for the duration of my stay. Too far away from everything, so 3-4 days is plenty. This would be a great "vacation" spot to wife up with if you're not into traveling to Buzios or Angra. The place is also guest-friendly as long as they aren't obvious hoars or you don't parade them at the pool if they are. It's a family hotel after all.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3053756] As for Vag's posts ... That's if you can even make sense of what he is posting in the first place though, and honestly given his tastes for favella rats where he can maximize his "cost per fuck per minute" he is not the sort to be taking advice from lightly in what is a dangerous city. Half of it is a personal fantasy and brag session he thinks impresses people. If he could just tone it down a bit and speak like a human being he would get a far more favourable response from people and offer the value he says he is trying to provide. However it does not appear that value is what motivates him, instead its an endless life updates written in a way that only he can understand as he derails topic after topic handing out bad advice to people who often have only short trips into the country ... I will tell you now that this forum would see far more activity from others if he cut the shit. [/QUOTE]Well said. I often exit this thread because of this sole distraction. It's overwhelming. It would be ideal if a separate thread could be branched for his posts alone so as to bring sanity back to this one.

This is a website where gents share their experiences with ladies from around the world. Before it came into existence I had to depend on bellboys, taxi drivers, etc. to guide me to places of interest. Post ISG my exotic indulgences have torqued exponentially. It is a fucking awesome website populated by fucking awesome mongers. Some entertain, some inform and some do both. I encourage one and all to keep on posting. Shalom.

Cost per fuck per minute is inversely related to how many days per year you spend in Brazil. Brazil withdrawal syndrome is real, as is TDS which is why Rich World is Pussy Prison.

The Economist says that paying money for sex is a luxury.

When you drive a Mercedes every day, you count the costs. When you only see a luxury care at a car show and take home that BMW 733 I glossy magazine and put it next to your stack of Penthouses and Playboys the other 50 weeks of the year, you feel like a expert, you really do.

And then there are the men who fuck a Brazilian chick every day on command, and they are like, you got to change the oil, put gas in the tank, feed them after fucking for 120 minutes.

Ignore in peace.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3053832]Well said. I often exit this thread because of this sole distraction. It's overwhelming. It would be ideal if a separate thread could be branched for his posts alone so as to bring sanity back to this one.[/QUOTE]

I had a nice session today with Ninaa from [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro[/URL] I've never used this site before even though it's been around a while. Yes there are some real losers on the site of all shapes and sizes but there are a few gems. This Ninaa 19 years old petite, no fat a nice tight little bucetta and very laid back and friendly, I will repeat.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054108]I had a nice session today with Ninaa from [URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro[/URL] I've never used this site before even though it's been around a while. Yes there are some real losers on the site of all shapes and sizes but there are a few gems. This Ninaa 19 years old petite, no fat a nice tight little bucetta and very laid back and friendly, I will repeat.[/QUOTE]I never used photoacompanhantes as I got the impression that many of the ads use fake photos or lies about their age. However you proved that the site ain't bad. Ninaa looks really nice.

Most porn producers just use photoac.

[QUOTE=Sperto;3054130]I never used photoacompanhantes as I got the impression that many of the ads use fake photos or lies about their age. However you proved that the site ain't bad. Ninaa looks really nice.[/QUOTE]

Haha, what is going on here? I have not looked into this forum a while and all I see is a war against Vagabundo)) I agree that his posts are too long and barely readable. But on the other hand, you must give him that he has a lot of experience and poetic talent. A seperate section would be ideal I guess. One section for the short, on point hints. One for poetic waxing and funny longer stories.

[URL]https://copacabanamassagem.com/[/URL] Managed to book her for a second time. This time in a hotel in Botafogo. She is really hot. Tall, beautiful face and nice fake tits. This time she let me fuck her. Blow my load two times: the first time she swallow my load and the second was a doggystyle. A little expensive but her body is worth it.

The opposite of love is not hate, it is apathy.

Some ISG members have told me that Ole Vagabundo has brought in lots of crypto monnaie for ISG!

Anyway, so prive girl comes over today. Lets see. Nano second by nano second. She arrives at 13 h41. I checked my watch.

Later, she would tell me I am wrong.

She gets in the shower. I sit on the bed. I have our fav porn going on 3 screens. I am at the same time trading. Tesla, owned by Elon Musk, stock options if you must know. She comes into the love chamber of doom. When she comes in, I am up for the day. She takes out the alcohol. The sting of alcohol on my dick is a turn on. It feels a little like torture, and we like talking about how we are going to torture our victims, as I am recruiting her to be one of my Kill Bill Uma Thurman samurai sword wielding knife fighters to slice of the appendages, Tarantino like, of our victims.

Anyway, we start with her sitting on my dick.

She lives in zona norte near jacare.

She is out of sorts. She has only gone to the prive once this week. She is beginning to get sick of it, getting fucked by 7 dicks a day. She prefers my dick, just my dick.

On, lets see at minute 23 and like 3453 nano seconds we switch to doggy. I drink self brewed iced tea made from megamatte.

I have been inside mostly during carnaval. Ann Amari, who is smart, says that she is scared of a new covid strain. I hated her for taking off due to rain and cheating me out of a few hours of fucking, until I saw a picture and video of water damage killing her smart TV in a favela. That is a threat, so am I as I am a DV risk. I mean, I carry lots of knives, I train muay Thai, I use hiking poles as improvised weapons. She was raised by a abusive father, a moto boy drug dealer. Yet she is smart, so I am helping her to be a work study student of journalism because she writes me poignant love letters.

So, I only get to 40 minutes of fucking, or like maybe 45.

Why do I track the minutes? Because it is heart zone training. I have done 30 Olympic triathlons and I used a system called heart zone training. I still have the spreadsheets. I had major surgery in 2023. My home government which may be that of the SWISS NAVY is supposed to pay for my medical bills, but really, I am on my own. Why? I saw covid as a WMD, a weapon of mass destruction event. I assessed that Rio de Janeiro was the safest place to be. And men in my own country are dying "deaths of despair" (there is a book).

Cardio whether from sex or muay Thai is like the only proven way to prevent the diseases from killing me.

So, smart asses, that is why.

So, at minute 50 we stop fucking.

Then we make food. I scoop out some acai. Prive girl likes it. I offer her some honey. The bottle is closed. She pries at the honey. I take out a leatherman skeletool and use the blade then the plyers to rip open the honey. She offers to make some salmon in the air fryer. She does. Or rather, she tries. She plugs in the rice cooker. Not the air fryer. So, I plug in the air fryer.

Now, I am kinda getting my fuck on. Again. So I tel her, cook the salmon *****, more or less. Like that's women's work you know from the old VFW post. You know how that goes.

So we finally eat some salmon. Then we fuck for another 20 minutes. That brings us up to 70 minutes. That is like junior varsity numbers, but I have not been doing muay thai in February. Later that night I go and finally do a muay thai session and my instructor credits my first payment of 100 r towards the next month. Most brazilians are very, very honest.

Really, I want a perfect woman, who does muay thai with me, who fixes my technology, but prive girl is there to fuck for a buck.

And she is good at it.

I should be grateful. I am, actually. I blow a load, all over her nice white ass.

We eat some more. Then we fuck again, and I can only manage another 10 or 15 minutes. I feel so weak! We had been hitting 120 minutes. But I am getting old. Some carpal tunnel syndrome on my left hand one of the fingers has a persistent fractured digit which is painful during muay thai a month later. Am I getting old?

So, we fight a little because after I stop fucking her finally, she is boom right into the shower, and I am like you arrived at 13 h41, and she is like, no, I arrived at 13 h30, and it is 16 h20 and I am showering and ubering away on a moto because your house is fucking dirty because my new apartment does not have daily cleaning. So, remember to look for that if you are apartment hunting.

What's the lyric, I got a wet pussy, I don't cook, I don't clean.

But I am a good person. She knows it. I give her 300, but no uber because I don't have change, you know, fuck PIX, fuck Brazil, no I don't want to give you every detail of my financial life so that fucking Be! Jing communists can fucking probe my accounts. Any fucking woman in Brazil who can afford to take a uber to you and is white and hot is being chased by like a dozen hundred dicks.

I mean, she and I get along really well. We like the same porn. Anne Amari who is 23 thinks I am a psycho, which I am, because I like [URL]kink.com[/URL] porn. But she is good with my porn, we make compilations together.

I mean, she actually loves our porn.

Which means we actually have something that is pretty good.

Anyway, I hate this. I blow a load or two, I want her to fucking cook and wait on me, and organize our shit and go train muay Thai

Like, that will ever happen.

She gets the fuck out.

I order a separate uber, a car, because no fucking way am I riding on a moto. I go to the bradesco, I take out 2500 r. Then I walk to muay thai, getting my nice, new expensive dudalina shirt wet.

I show up at muay thai, and thank abraham and all of his descendants, I do 60 minutes of hard muay Thai

Then I go to the student dining hall with my real friends, 30 year old engineering students and 40 year old professors who will show up on a Sunday and move for free. Good dudes and women. I am not even disapointed that a ISG friend blew me off for sushi. Good food, good company.

Good fucking, good fighting, great day.

Now, why do I chronicle the nano seconds? Because that is my fucking life. I do put this into a document, a personal journal. That is the life of a Swiss navy sailor.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Filho;3054211]Haha, what is going on here? I have not looked into this forum a while and all I see is a war against Vagabundo)) I agree that his posts are too long and barely readable. But on the other hand, you must give him that he has a lot of experience and poetic talent. A seperate section would be ideal I guess. One section for the short, on point hints. One for poetic waxing and funny longer stories.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto;3054130]I never used photoacompanhantes as I got the impression that many of the ads use fake photos or lies about their age. However you proved that the site ain't bad. Ninaa looks really nice.[/QUOTE]LOL. Why do ISGers always have impressions about things they have not done or places they have not been? How many years have I been saying in here that I swear by the site? I am sure well over 10. Now all of a sudden RB uses the site for the first time and has a good time so it is proof that it ain't bad. Meu deus.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3053756]As for Vag's posts, the sheer volume of them is going to produce the odd nugget of gold I am sure. That's if you can even make sense of what he is posting in the first place though, and honestly given his tastes for favella rats where he can maximize his "cost per fuck per minute" he is not the sort to be taking advice from lightly in what is a dangerous city. Half of it is a personal fantasy and brag session he thinks impresses people. If he could just tone it down a bit and speak like a human being he would get a far more favourable response from people and offer the value he says he is trying to provide. However it does not appear that value is what motivates him, instead its an endless life updates written in a way that only he can understand as he derails topic after topic handing out bad advice to people who often have only short trips into the country!..[/QUOTE]Yes, well said, and I also share Hanzonamura, sentiments on the matter.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3053832]Well said. I often exit this thread because of this sole distraction. It's overwhelming. It would be ideal if [i][u][b]a separate thread[/b][/u][/i] could be branched for his posts alone so as to bring sanity back to this one.[/QUOTE]Yeah, years ago, to satisfy all parties and keep the sanctity of the thread, this use to be a common practice for those ISGers, that as WR says, have turned a thread / forum into a [I][b]"...personal masturbation session for their egos."[/I][ / be].

Since I was in Rio for more than one night, I decided to try out Centaurus. The place that is comparable to or even better than Scandello.

And I have to say. Centaurus is definitely way better than Scandello. I was in SP and visited Scandello the last few days but I wish I had spent more time in Rio.

If you are in Rio or planning a trip to Rio and wondering if you should come to Scandello, don't bother. It isn't worth the time or money. Just stay in Rio or come to Rio and make sure you visit the best and baddest putera in the world — Centaurus!!

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3054418]Since I was in Rio for more than one night, I decided to try out Centaurus. The place that is comparable to or even better than Scandello.

And I have to say. Centaurus is definitely way better than Scandello. I was in SP and visited Scandello the last few days but I wish I had spent more time in Rio.

If you are in Rio or planning a trip to Rio and wondering if you should come to Scandello, don't bother. It isn't worth the time or money. Just stay in Rio or come to Rio and make sure you visit the best and baddest putera in the world Centaurus!![/QUOTE]This is interesting as I'll be in Rio in a few weeks and staying within a very short walk to Centaurus. Did you end up checking out the other first line termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and 4 x4 to compare them as well to Centaurus? I'm sure I'll take in at least one of these but from reports so far 4 x4 seems to be the one must visit.

Very interesting, as senor Anaggie is a well respected and influential voice here in our forum!

We met once in 4 xm4, and perhaps should compare notes in Centaurus.

Vagabundo was in Ipanema yesterday, too, with a regular girl who after all those 120 minute fuck afternoons merited her Friday request of sushi, so I took her to temekeria at rua joana angelica 183 nearby a metro station in Ipanema, in fact, just one metro stop after metro general Osorio, which is the stop where Centaurus is located.

This interest in Centaurus, I must admit, is due to toastmonger, who insisted we go there, and we did in fact, several times, after temekeria which is a good 800 meter walk.

This goes to show that so called 'fueds' in ISG are kind of like rich men (rich if you can eat anywhere and fuck the best girls in any city) arguing over Mercedes or bmw. Even The Cane and I agreed on fucking Elisa sanches.

Too, vagabundo likes that Centaurus is just steps from the beach, indeed, the free gym / swim opportunity at praia diabo where there is a boxing bag too, and I meet with my real friends from university, who are young, fit men, machos starting law or engineering careers, or my fellow muay thai athletes.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3054418]Since I was in Rio for more than one night, I decided to try out Centaurus. The place that is comparable to or even better than Scandello.

And I have to say. Centaurus is definitely way better than Scandello. I was in SP and visited Scandello the last few days but I wish I had spent more time in Rio.

If you are in Rio or planning a trip to Rio and wondering if you should come to Scandello, don't bother. It isn't worth the time or money. Just stay in Rio or come to Rio and make sure you visit the best and baddest putera in the world Centaurus!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3054418]Since I was in Rio for more than one night, I decided to try out Centaurus. The place that is comparable to or even better than Scandello.

And I have to say. Centaurus is definitely way better than Scandello. I was in SP and visited Scandello the last few days but I wish I had spent more time in Rio.

If you are in Rio or planning a trip to Rio and wondering if you should come to Scandello, don't bother. It isn't worth the time or money. Just stay in Rio or come to Rio and make sure you visit the best and baddest putera in the world Centaurus!![/QUOTE]Interesting you say this as Centaurus has had a bad reputation in recent years as being overpriced and overhyped. On google scandalo gets stunning reviews, can you elaborate on your assessment of both places? I'm in Rio now and was contemplating a short trip to scandalo as I have never been and thought I owed myself a visit.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3054418]Since I was in Rio for more than one night, I decided to try out Centaurus. The place that is comparable to or even better than Scandello.

And I have to say. Centaurus is definitely way better than Scandello. I was in SP and visited Scandello the last few days but I wish I had spent more time in Rio.

If you are in Rio or planning a trip to Rio and wondering if you should come to Scandello, don't bother. It isn't worth the time or money. Just stay in Rio or come to Rio and make sure you visit the best and baddest putera in the world Centaurus!![/QUOTE]I'm taking it that this was written totally in jest!

While no scandalo I went there Wednesday night it was pouring rain luckily I'm staying around the corner so not far to walk and many overhangs to hide from the rain. At 1 AM the crowd was thin due to the rain but a very tall beautiful modelesque girl was given me the smile so I went over to her. Every time she said something like a giraffe she had to bend over to whisper in my ear. She wanted a good amount of money and my negotiating went no where but what the hell you only live once and she stayed a couple hours and she was fun. The next day my Airbnb owner asked me if I could refrain from bringing girls in the middle of the night, I told him give me my money back and I'll leave otherwise no and that's creepy that you're following every move I make. He said ok and offered me a free housekeeping. I tried PHOTO 2 times one was great as I mentioned before and the other didn't look anything like her pictures. After it was over she wanted another drink and an exorbitant amount for her Uber, she was very surprised I told her to get the hell out.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3054497]This is interesting as I'll be in Rio in a few weeks and staying within a very short walk to Centaurus. Did you end up checking out the other first line termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and 4 x4 to compare them as well to Centaurus? I'm sure I'll take in at least one of these but from reports so far 4 x4 seems to be the one must visit.[/QUOTE]On my most recent visit, I thought 4 X4 and Monte Carlo had better talent than Centaurus. But termas go in phases. One week one is great, then a few weeks later, mediocre. My advice if you're in Rio for a week or more is to hit all the major ones. M Carlo, 4 x4, Centaurus, Solarium, etc. 2-3 of them will be great and the others maybe possibly disappointing.

Scandallo vs termas is apples to oranges. They're very different experiences. I love them both which is why I usually do both Rio and SP in my Brazil trips. IMO both are things a guy must do in his lifetime.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;3054418]Since I was in Rio for more than one night, I decided to try out Centaurus. The place that is comparable to or even better than Scandello.

And I have to say. Centaurus is definitely way better than Scandello. I was in SP and visited Scandello the last few days but I wish I had spent more time in Rio.

If you are in Rio or planning a trip to Rio and wondering if you should come to Scandello, don't bother. It isn't worth the time or money. Just stay in Rio or come to Rio and make sure you visit the best and baddest putera in the world Centaurus!![/QUOTE]Am I the only one sensing a bit of sarcasm here?

It is either that or jealousy at not being able to live 365 in the greatest puteria in the world, which is all of Rio de Janeiro, for Rio is the capital of the world and its own planet, and the entire thing place is a putero! If you want white women like Giselle, live in Barra, if you want the blackest most beautiful negras, live in zona norte or go to VM frequently, and everywhere in between. Centaurus has 25 girls with 15 + who speak all languages, but Ipanema has a beach and gringa euro student girls who come from rich families if you have the game. Perola Negra and Paris in Barra have the exact same girls as Scandallo, vagabundo can show you their pictures and their numbers.

And they are not even the most beautiful women in rio de janeiro. For that classified information, the cost is a iced coffee at a sushi meal.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3054654]Am I the only one sensing a bit of sarcasm here?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Safado007;3054654]Am I the only one sensing a bit of sarcasm here?[/QUOTE]Thought so too.

On Saturday night I went to dolce vita again but even past 1 am I really didn't connect with anything, I was going to leave then a girl I spoke to earlier a very tall light skinned black girl, I left with her and her 2 friends left alone. She was ok but I wouldn't repeat. On Sunday I spent the afternoon with a girl I've known for a couple of years, I asked her why she wasn't in dolce vita last night, she said she was in Bosque bar. I asked her if there are GDP'S there she said muito a lot, I was surprised, I'm going to have to go this week. She said Vitrinni also but more difficult to get in. My afternoon with this girl was top in my apartment, she told me my apartment is nice and has been there a few times with other men, so I don't have to show you around but he didn't take her on the balcony like I always do. I think Bosque bar is open tonight Monday, anybody been there?

Bosque discriminates against people over a certain age. Popular with university. Video from Swedish gringo on youtube on bosque.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054795]On Saturday night I went to dolce vita again but even past 1 am I really didn't connect with anything, I was going to leave then a girl I spoke to earlier a very tall light skinned black girl, I left with her and her 2 friends left alone. She was ok but I wouldn't repeat. On Sunday I spent the afternoon with a girl I've known for a couple of years, I asked her why she wasn't in dolce vita last night, she said she was in Bosque bar. I asked her if there are GDP'S there she said muito a lot, I was surprised, I'm going to have to go this week. She said Vitrinni also but more difficult to get in. My afternoon with this girl was top in my apartment, she told me my apartment is nice and has been there a few times with other men, so I don't have to show you around but he didn't take her on the balcony like I always do. I think Bosque bar is open tonight Monday, anybody been there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054795]I think Bosque bar is open tonight Monday, anybody been there?[/QUOTE]I heard about Bosque bar but I never went. According to their site it's only open om Thursday. Sunday.

[URL]https://www.barbosquebar.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3054802]Bosque discriminates against people over a certain age. Popular with university. Video from Swedish gringo on youtube on bosque.[/QUOTE]That's too bad, they wouldn't let you in? They're closed until Thursday anyway.

Sunday night at 11 pm I went to mabs to get something to eat. What a sad bunch of girls were hanging out there even the transvestites looked better. After I ate I left wasn't tempted by anything.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3054294]LOL. Why do ISGers always have impressions about things they have not done or places they have not been? How many years have I been saying in here that I swear by the site? I am sure well over 10. Now all of a sudden RB uses the site for the first time and has a good time so it is proof that it ain't bad. Meu deus.[/QUOTE]You really should relax!

I went to Eden Spa in Copacanana (Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 - Sala 401 - Copacabana), 240 Reales for an hour. Lineup of 4 ladies, picked one, after gave her a 50 reales tip.

The place is only 3 blocks from my condo.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054795]On Saturday night I went to dolce vita again but even past 1 am I really didn't connect with anything, I was going to leave then a girl I spoke to earlier a very tall light skinned black girl, I left with her and her 2 friends left alone. She was ok but I wouldn't repeat. On Sunday I spent the afternoon with a girl I've known for a couple of years, I asked her why she wasn't in dolce vita last night, she said she was in Bosque bar. I asked her if there are GDP'S there she said muito a lot, I was surprised, I'm going to have to go this week. She said Vitrinni also but more difficult to get in. My afternoon with this girl was top in my apartment, she told me my apartment is nice and has been there a few times with other men, so I don't have to show you around but he didn't take her on the balcony like I always do. I think Bosque bar is open tonight Monday, anybody been there?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't get your hopes up about Bosque being loaded with GDP's. That club is 98% Brasilian, you MIGHT see 3 -5 gringos there on the weekend. So, it absolutely wouldn't make any sense at all for GDPs to go there looking for customers. (Also, for the first timers visiting brasil, you definitely don't want to make the mistake of going up to a young female there and asking if she is "working".)

I have not tried. Ageism would be a challenge.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054833]That's too bad, they wouldn't let you in? They're closed until Thursday anyway.[/QUOTE]

Plan after is spaten and sushi.

I did find a source for lbrownies.

Cost per fuck per minute today was 250/50 or 5 my days per year in Rio 365.

Ageism is a thing here in rio.

I never even tried due to some scouting of social media of bosque bar.

Coliving and other student housing advertises max age 28.

What are you going to do?

I shaved off my grey beard and that drops my age by 20 years or at least 10.

Anyway, my cost per fuck per minute today was 250/50 or 5.

My days per year in Rio (trailing) is 365, what is yours (not yours specifically rio bob, but all of you).

And I can do that forever. Ie, 250 r x 365 or annualized 91250 r because that is only 17.8 k USD.

On the other hand, if you are only in Brazil for 21 days, then you might think it is some kind of legit thing to spend all 17 k USD in 21 days because you are headed back to the wife who has treated you so bad you had your gonads snipped so you can't have any more kids with your latest batch of cow hides because that is your life and you can't figure out a way to sell your house, close your biz, and move all your obligations to Brazil so you can do this 365.

There is a formula in there somewhere.

Yes, scandallo might be good if you are in town for 7 days at a time 3 times a year. But would you really drink 1000 dollar bottles of wine when a 35 dollar bottle of wine works?

On the way into the prive, I went to a pedro e casas, and got some oleo do coco, thai rice, and peanut butter.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054833]That's too bad, they wouldn't let you in? They're closed until Thursday anyway.[/QUOTE]

And now even more nonsense about the hottest girls doing to Rio over SP to sell pussy. Its just endless streams of terrible information and bad advice leading people down the garden path.

SP is the financial and commercial heart of the country. Its where the wealthiest Brazilians live and its where the wealthiest international businessmen travel through. Those are the men the women target, not expats on a tight budget timing things down to the minute. There is a reason why all the upmarket clubs are in SP and not in Rio, and that's because the locals who live there are 95% of the demand and have money to spend. Tourists and foreigners are a drop in the bucket. The best looking women go to the city with the largest amount of wealthy men and it shows the minute you walk into those boates.

Speak to most working girls outside Rio and ask them what they think of the place, you will hear it right from their own mouths. More money in SP, less dangerous too.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3054843]I went to Eden Spa in Copacanana (Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 - Sala 401 - Copacabana), 240 Reales for an hour. Lineup of 4 ladies, picked one, after gave her a 50 reales tip.[/QUOTE]Lots of gringos goes to these privées in Copacabana. Tipping those girls ruins for your fellow mongers.

This is one reason I don't share info on privées that are new on the monger scene.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3054560]Interesting you say this as Centaurus has had a bad reputation in recent years as being overpriced and overhyped. On google scandalo gets stunning reviews, can you elaborate on your assessment of both places? I'm in Rio now and was contemplating a short trip to scandalo as I have never been and thought I owed myself a visit.[/QUOTE]If you have never been, then I would definitely recommend you go and check it out. Centaurus vs Scandello would be like McDonald's vs fine dining restaurants. Simplest way I can explain it.

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=ev9_h_v2DCZ6iKiD[/URL]

One word with video -- the beach.

Rio is a megacity with 12 m, sp with 20 m.

There are megarich in both, but the best quality of life is in Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro, which is where there are a ton of Paulistanos not to mention Argentinians. Those with the money and TIME live in Barra. In a megacity of 12 m, there are enough beautiful women for any dick to be happy. Again, my intent is to de escalate. This is a discussion about Mercedes v BMW, or whether your security detail if you can afford one carries glocks or HK.

Peace, and again, the real measure of wealth is days per year in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, with cost per fuck per minute per days per year in Brazil.

If on the days you don't post 119 times, you are out of rio, there's a great sale on fleshlights on amazon, and the upsell at the local Asian massage parlor is not too bad, and the cops down on Fig really might not arrest you.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3054893]And now even more nonsense about the hottest girls doing to Rio over SP to sell pussy. Its just endless streams of terrible information and bad advice leading people down the garden path.

SP is the financial and commercial heart of the country. Its where the wealthiest Brazilians live and its where the wealthiest international businessmen travel through. Those are the men the women target, not expats on a tight budget timing things down to the minute. There is a reason why all the upmarket clubs are in SP and not in Rio, and that's because the locals who live there are 95% of the demand and have money to spend. Tourists and foreigners are a drop in the bucket. The best looking women go to the city with the largest amount of wealthy men and it shows the minute you walk into those boates.

Speak to most working girls outside Rio and ask them what they think of the place, you will hear it right from their own mouths. More money in SP, less dangerous too.[/QUOTE]

Went to 4 x4 last night around 8 pm. Was pretty quiet maybe 20-30 girls. Not impressed by the quality. Took one girl's number. Might see her outside of club later this week. Before heading home went to Mabs, which is close to my apartment. Quite a few foreigners there. Girls below average. Had a beer an left. Tonight thinking to checkout Casablanca and Dolce Vita.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3054977]Went to 4 x4 last night around 8 pm. Was pretty quiet maybe 20-30 girls. Not impressed by the quality. Took one girl's number. Might see her outside of club later this week. Before heading home went to Mabs, which is close to my apartment. Quite a few foreigners there. Girls below average. Had a beer an left. Tonight thinking to checkout Casablanca and Dolce Vita.[/QUOTE]Beware the exit fee at Casablanca is astonishingly high. 600 R as I recall. Best to ask before entry rather than as you exit and have a girl on your arm. And the onsite "room" (yes one) is like a closet with a bed in it. That said I paid the exhorbitant fee (I did have a girl on my arm) and she was a winner.

And remember DV doesn't really rolll till 1 am. Final tip is u can use DV as a dance club. I brought my casa Blanca girl there and we danced for hours before fucking. Since I brought her in there is no exit fee.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3054893]And now even more nonsense about the hottest girls doing to Rio over SP to sell pussy. Its just endless streams of terrible information and bad advice leading people down the garden path.

SP is the financial and commercial heart of the country. Its where the wealthiest Brazilians live and its where the wealthiest international businessmen travel through. Those are the men the women target, not expats on a tight budget timing things down to the minute. There is a reason why all the upmarket clubs are in SP and not in Rio, and that's because the locals who live there are 95% of the demand and have money to spend. Tourists and foreigners are a drop in the bucket. The best looking women go to the city with the largest amount of wealthy men and it shows the minute you walk into those boates.

Speak to most working girls outside Rio and ask them what they think of the place, you will hear it right from their own mouths. More money in SP, less dangerous too.[/QUOTE]Completely agree.

I was in Rio month ago, visited major termas and some massage places, and overall Rio, from the mongering point of view, feels like provincial city, compare to SP, as a big capital.

I. hate copa reason 69.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3054988]Beware the exit fee at Casablanca is astonishingly high. 600 R as I recall. Best to ask before entry rather than as you exit and have a girl on your arm. And the onsite "room" (yes one) is like a closet with a bed in it. That said I paid the exhorbitant fee (I did have a girl on my arm) and she was a winner.

And remember DV doesn't really rolll till 1 am. Final tip is u can use DV as a dance club. I brought my casa Blanca girl there and we danced for hours before fucking. Since I brought her in there is no exit fee.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Guest19;3055005]Completely agree.

I was in Rio month ago, visited major termas and some massage places, and overall Rio, from the mongering point of view, feels like provincial city, compare to SP, as a big capital.[/QUOTE]All you need to do is ask the girls in other cities like Floripa or Curitiba why they don't choose Rio, or the the girls in SP why they choose SP over Rio. Its always the same answer, more money in SP and Rio has a major crime issue unless you can afford to live in the best areas. Every second ***** you meet in SP seems to come from Minas, Goais or Santa Catarina.

The only people who are saying the quality and ratios in the termas is on par with the SP boates are the people who can't afford to fuck in them.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3054843]I went to Eden Spa in Copacanana (Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 - Sala 401 - Copacabana), 240 Reales for an hour. Lineup of 4 ladies, picked one, after gave her a 50 reales tip.

The place is only 3 blocks from my condo.[/QUOTE]Jeez dude, how many hundreds of times have people posted "DO NOT GIVE A TIP TO THESE WORKING GIRLS! It conditions them to think that all gringos are fucking stupid!! Repeat visits = Tipping!

Actually, I think SP is more dangerous than Rio. More cell phone thefts occur in SP, and the violence is just as bad.

And if you can afford to live in the safe areas in Rio, like Barra, you are at the mo-fucking beach.

Like, when I feel the need to take a piss, I go to The Beach

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=d8IYczfRatOna119[/URL]

I live here.

Like, I stumble out of bed with some hoar from perola, and I go here.

And as for the putaria, well it is all a putaria. You walk down olegario maciel, go to pineapple, there are hoars. Go to bar do adao, there are hoars. Go to practica, there are hoars. Hot ass girls from minas come up to me on olegario while I am going to the bathroom and they give ME their number, and they are hot.

The real Brazilians prefer Barra the Tijuca.

Look at that video of Scandallo that The Cane posted. You are paying for land scaping.

On the other hand, I have palm trees at the beach, at the surf club on the real beach.

At scandallo, you are paying for waterfalls to simulate the waterfalls and the beach.

In Rio, you have actual beach, and actual waterfalls.

Anyway, I am not saying you are wrong, it's just that I am rich. Rich enough to fuck any girl I want in Rio, rich enough to go to any restaurant I want in Rio. I am rich enough to go live in SP, but I don't want a 90 minute ride to Santos for a shitty beach.

I am at posto 3 barra, and posto 12 barra is the best surf beach in Rio.

Hot ass, real paulistana SP women who want to surf come to Recreio dos bandeirantes.

Yes, the most beautiful women in Brazil come to SP for money because it is a financial capital. You can't go wrong picking between SP and RJ, just like Mercedes and BMW are good choices, and Glock and HK are good choices.

But if they have money, and freedom, the women come to Rio because of the beach.

You can drive around in the rich world like Jamie Foxx in that tom cruise assassin movie with a picture of the beach, or you can actually go to the mo-fuggin beach.

And as for the girls, it is the same girls. I can show you pictures, but some are my actual friends, and I wouldn't want them sending out my picture. Like Penelope 2020 from 4 x4/ perola / SP Hi end prives / Europe / bali. There is a new Penelope, hot ass blond at perola negra now. I could send you her # too. I fucked her, we all fucked her, have you fucked her? You should. Blond like put her on the hood of a fucking Mercedes blonde with a suppressed HK pistol blond.

You only need 4 kunts a week.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3055037]All you need to do is ask the girls in other cities like Floripa or Curitiba why they don't choose Rio, or the the girls in SP why they choose SP over Rio. Its always the same answer, more money in SP and Rio has a major crime issue unless you can afford to live in the best areas. Every second ***** you meet in SP seems to come from Minas, Goais or Santa Catarina.

The only people who are saying the quality and ratios in the termas is on par with the SP boates are the people who can't afford to fuck in them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3054988]Beware the exit fee at Casablanca is astonishingly high. 600 R as I recall. Best to ask before entry rather than as you exit and have a girl on your arm. And the onsite "room" (yes one) is like a closet with a bed in it. That said I paid the exhorbitant fee (I did have a girl on my arm) and she was a winner.

And remember DV doesn't really rolll till 1 am. Final tip is u can use DV as a dance club. I brought my casa Blanca girl there and we danced for hours before fucking. Since I brought her in there is no exit fee.[/QUOTE]Last night I went to Casablanca around midnight. Cover was 100 Reais, 1 drink included. It was pretty busy, maybe 20+ girls and quite a few customers. With the quality I was pleasantly surprised. Comparing to SP, I'd say like a good night at Bomboa, a place as the other top boates in SP I visited likely close to a 100 times over the past years. At least 5 girls I would have taken out. But!! As mentioned here before 600 R take out fee, which I would never consider to pay. If I recall correctly girl's drink options were 800/1200 for these rose so called champagne bottles. Insane!

I observed similar always repeating interactions between girls and customers. Conversation starts, after a while girl informs about drink options and saida fee, conversation ends. Bye Bye. Instead of having a good time, drinking and partying together the atmosphere is kinda awkward. Many girls and customers just standing alone. If they would offer moderately priced girl's drinks at around 100 are range I think the place would be not too bad. Is seems management prefers to count on few idiots buying the champagne bottles. Over the 2 hours period I saw one girl leaving with a customer.

Will go back and just collect phone numbers. Not 100% sure if possible, it seemed there were no issues with that. Most guys were using their phones for translation anyway. From Casablanca walked over to DV. Around 2 am not too busy, very dark. Girls quality not good. After few drinks I left.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3055079]Actually, I think SP is more dangerous than Rio. More cell phone thefts occur in SP, and the violence is just as bad.

And if you can afford to live in the safe areas in Rio, like Barra, you are at the mo-fucking beach.

Like, when I feel the need to take a piss, I go to The Beach

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=d8IYczfRatOna119[/URL]

I live here.

Like, I stumble out of bed with some hoar from perola, and I go here.

And as for the putaria, well it is all a putaria. You walk down olegario maciel, go to pineapple, there are hoars. Go to bar do adao, there are hoars. Go to practica, there are hoars. Hot ass girls from minas come up to me on olegario while I am going to the bathroom and they give ME their number, and they are hot.

The real Brazilians prefer Barra the Tijuca.

Look at that video of Scandallo that The Cane posted. You are paying for land scaping.

On the other hand, I have palm trees at the beach, at the surf club on the real beach..[/QUOTE]This is why I keep saying your advice is terrible, because its advice provided purely from your perspective as someone who lives in Rio. You are writing a personal blog for an audience of yourself at this point. Any criticism of this and you immediately try to frame it as jealousy, its really pathetic man.

The vast majority of people who visit this forum don't live in Rio or Brazil, they travel to Brazil for short trips where they need to maximize their time on the ground. Rio offers a far better lifestyle long term than SP does for my tastes too, but lifestyle means nothing for people who are coming for short trips. Its utterly irrelevant to them, and if you were capable of looking at this from their perspective rather than yours this would not be hard for you to see.

The SP Boates and massage shops monster everything on offer in Rio, and its not even close. Its absurd to say Rio competes with SP's clubs and massage joints. Most people don't have time to navigate Rio to the extent that you are preaching because they don't live there. So when you are bullshitting people about the quality on offer and the easy access to it, you are selling an experience most people won't have access to if they don't have time on the ground. Which is why I say your posts are nothing more than mental masturbation throwing around horrible advice because the only reason you have to post this shit is that you think it impresses people.

You are not helping anyone, your posts are actually detrimental to those who try and follow your advice if they are on shorter trips. You do them all such a massive disservice when you present a picture that is not a reality of most tourists. I personally prefer Rio to SP for longer stays, but if I was only in for 5-6 days there is simply no point choosing Rio over SP if you primary focus is Brazilian pussy. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit and should be outright ignored at this point, because there is no way anyone can say that with a straight face if they actually have experience on the ground.

Each city has its strengths, but misleading people the way you do is not cool at all.

Vagabundo, can I ask... Where else have you lived and/or traveled frequently to engage in mongering? Did you end up in RJ after scouring the globe for the best spot, or did you find RJ and say, "It can't get better than this"?

I am just trying to add some context to your point of view, stories, knowledge, etc.

Thanks!

Senor Wayne Roberts.

So, we agree, as you have written.

Look, I am a lawyer, and a writer. Knowledge advances through an adversarial (but respectful) process, sometimes. As here.

The lifestyle is NOT irrelevant. The beach is always preferable to some, which is why even in the middle of land locked SP, you pay 400 reais entrada for landscaping to fake the beach at Scandallo -- for the exact same girls, for the exact same pussy. Just to stay on a pussy we all fucked, Penelope, super hot blond from 2020 4 x4. She was from Minas Gerais, which is a clue.

You can fuck at Perola Negra, then walk onto a real, safe beach in Barra.

Ask anyone? Who is the real mo-fuggin' king o Brazil?

Renzo Gracie.

The Gracie house is like steps from Paris Cafe at Posto 10, Barra.

SOme of you want to know my mongering background -- Rio, Tijuana, Pattaya, Okinawa, all over Europe, all over Asia, Egypt, Kuwait, Iraq, Nogales AZ. This board is anon. You want to meet up? 17 March is my 6 year anniversary in Rio. Mosaico and Secret Terma are planned. Meet at Metro Uruguiana. Details to follow.

My intent is not to be adversarial. I understand. Rabbi Vagabundo knows that Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome is real, as is TDS, which is why the rich world is pussy prison, due to Feminazi's who have TDS and your male genitalia by the balls.

Now, more to the point, if you only have 6 days in Rio, you should follow Toastmonger if you have the money, and stay at Barra Grand Hyatt, and get girls from prives. There is a prisma terepias in Barra near the metro jardim oceanico.

And you should train MMA like the Gracies. You should get your testicles out of bed. You should go swim. You should do some clean and jerks. You should go to a prive and fuck for no more than 200 r per hour. You should go to MMA for 2 hours after that.

Vagabundo Gracie thus commands all good Israelis to live your life thusly, call it krav maga, if you want but that is for people who don't train real Brazilian MMA, especially Muay Thai.

Oh, yeah, and lislopes dances at perola negra on Thursdays.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3055204]Rio offers a far better lifestyle long term than SP does for my tastes too, but lifestyle means nothing for people who are coming for short trips. Its utterly irrelevant to them, and if you were capable of looking at this from their perspective rather than yours this would not be hard for you to see.
I personally prefer Rio to SP for longer stays, but if I was only in for 5-6 days there is simply no point choosing Rio over SP if you primary focus is Brazilian pussy. .[/QUOTE]

The drink prices make no sense. The awkward atmosphere ruins it further. There's no incentive to converse over a drink or dance. The place must rely on completely shit faced guys making bad decisions. It's not like a MDE Gusto's where you can kick back with a bottle and cycle chicks through.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3055133]Last night I went to Casablanca around midnight. Cover was 100 Reais, 1 drink included. It was pretty busy, maybe 20+ girls and quite a few customers. With the quality I was pleasantly surprised. Comparing to SP, I'd say like a good night at Bomboa, a place as the other top boates in SP I visited likely close to a 100 times over the past years. At least 5 girls I would have taken out. But!! As mentioned here before 600 R take out fee, which I would never consider to pay. If I recall correctly girl's drink options were 800/1200 for these rose so called champagne bottles. Insane!

I observed similar always repeating interactions between girls and customers. Conversation starts, after a while girl informs about drink options and saida fee, conversation ends. Bye Bye. Instead of having a good time, drinking and partying together the atmosphere is kinda awkward. Many girls and customers just standing alone. If they would offer moderately priced girl's drinks at around 100 are range I think the place would be not too bad. Is seems management prefers to count on few idiots buying the champagne bottles. Over the 2 hours period I saw one girl leaving with a customer.

Will go back and just collect phone numbers. Not 100% sure if possible, it seemed there were no issues with that. Most guys were using their phones for translation anyway. From Casablanca walked over to DV. Around 2 am not too busy, very dark. Girls quality not good. After few drinks I left.[/QUOTE]

Don't always judge the letter, judge the spirit or the message (like in Vagabundo1's case). Rio is the most beautiful city in the world and infinitely better for life than SP. Also, in the P4 P Play means also what do you do with your time between fucking, and Pay is how much it costs you, and SP has clearly a premium one can't ignore. Scandallo rates are not for everyone. Any time you approach Rio from air you tell yourself 'wow!' and 'wtf am I going to do here in this concrete monstrosity' on approach to Sampa.

[QUOTE=Questner;3055284]Don't always judge the letter, judge the spirit or the message (like in Vagabundo1's case). Rio is the most beautiful city in the world and infinitely better for life than SP. Also, in the P4 P Play means also what do you do with your time between fucking, and Pay is how much it costs you, and SP has clearly a premium one can't ignore. Scandallo rates are not for everyone. Any time you approach Rio from air you tell yourself 'wow!' and 'wtf am I going to do here in this concrete monstrosity' on approach to Sampa.[/QUOTE]They're very different experiences, but both are great. My ideal trip is a week in both cities.

I went to Whiskeria 4+ 4 last night. Being a cheap Charlie, I took the 100 bus from Copacabana (5 reales).

A handful of decent ladies at 18.00, but I didn't pull the trigger.

Why don't you just ignore me, then?

Anyway, my cost per fuck per minute was 250/45 yesterday, so like 5.5 r in a centro prive, then I did 2 hours of muay thai for which I am paying 100 r for 16 hours a month, which comes out to 6 r per hour or a little over a dollar, and my teammates are 20 year old super hot girls from Finland, France even Florida. Experience has shown that playing the long game does yield real non pro sex and friendship with these gals.

You may hate me, so ignore me.

But some members of this forum have compared my writing to Miller, Tropic of Cancer or Burroughs, Naked Lunch though I also and some ISG friends invoke Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I was educated by reading Twain, and I aspire to traveloques like Innocents Abroad or Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. Through the years about 150 have joined a local whatsapp group for mongers, which is my target size, the size of a Rifle Company or a SEAL Team, where most people know each other. Some people dismiss me as a cheap charlie, who only likes negras from VM, but I'm in Centaurus and the prive regular I have been fucking for 120 minutes on any given afternoon to our own porn compilation is a Germanic looking girl that is my baseline for adjusting sights on my cost per fuck per minute.

When I go into Centaurus or Perola, therefore, I am nut busted, happy, and I am the fucking prize, dancing around in my muay thai shorts and with a 1. 5 l bottle of water I bought at a pharmacia because I am not buying 200 ML of water for 50 r because a local would not do that. I roll in and Centaurus Nicole recognizes me, shakes her bouncy ass at me for a whisky, but I don't need to fuck, so I just get her most recent number, and she having socially validated me, all the girls give me their numbers, and I gave those numbers to a ISGer at a sushi place on Olegario the other day.

That guy is on crutches and has a prosthetic leg from polio. In a different life, that could have been me. He has character. No woman is probably going to be attracted to him on the basis of just seeing him on the street, but he is my friend, and I show him my actual pictures of non pro Finnish Elsa jeans who beg to give me blow jobs with their even more hot Finnish friends, and I send him the number from Centaurus and perola girls to save him the trouble.

What I write does apply to short term travelers who become longer term travelers. Take for example, the best porn producer working in Rio, IMHO, Mambo Perv, who is a ISG member, who reached out for advice when he first got here in 2021. I met him a few times, even did a VM patrol, which he likes (and he uses photoaccompantes). He works in both SP and RJ, he lives near me. I see in his videos the beach outside my balcony. There's not a right answer. Whatever you business is, make it portable, and figure out how to live as many of your days in Rio.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3055204]This is why I keep saying your advice is terrible, because its advice provided purely from your perspective as someone who lives in Rio. You are writing a personal blog for an audience of yourself at this point. Any criticism of this and you immediately try to frame it as jealousy, its really pathetic man.

The vast majority of people who visit this forum don't live in Rio or Brazil, they travel to Brazil for short trips where they need to maximize their time on the ground. Rio offers a far better lifestyle long term than SP does for my tastes too, but lifestyle means nothing for people who are coming for short trips. Its utterly irrelevant to them, and if you were capable of looking at this from their perspective rather than yours this would not be hard for you to see..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3055204]This is why I keep saying your advice is terrible, because its advice provided purely from your perspective as someone who lives in Rio. You are writing a personal blog for an audience of yourself at this point. Any criticism of this and you immediately try to frame it as jealousy, its really pathetic man.

The vast majority of people who visit this forum don't live in Rio or Brazil, they travel to Brazil for short trips where they need to maximize their time on the ground. Rio offers a far better lifestyle long term than SP does for my tastes too, but lifestyle means nothing for people who are coming for short trips. Its utterly irrelevant to them, and if you were capable of looking at this from their perspective rather than yours this would not be hard for you to see..[/QUOTE]

Check out Aurora Damasceno. Nice pro service in a pro safe location near Carioca station.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/centro/ao-lado-do-metro-carioca-156-tenho-privacy-id-y7v8h[/URL]

[URL]https://gparena.net/social-feed-user.php?id=29218[/URL]

All natural, awesome tits and ass, good BJ, YMMV but she is solid, nothing spectacular with service, but a good value for under 300 R.

As for the long volume of posting, let's stick to relevant useful stuff and restrain a bit with the irrelevant stuff and bragging can we?

It's tough to take too seriously someone who refers to themselves in the third person.

Vagabundo you are correct People can ignore your irrelevant meandering posts.

But we cannot ignore blatant misinformation like Centaurus is better than Scandallo (ignoring price). This is just factually inaccurate in virtually every way. Quantity, quality, venue. I respect that you get wasted a lot and maybe you were delusional at the time. Cool. But it's misinformation.

These I believe are facts that any man will sign up to if they have done both SP and Rio:

1. If you seek a luxe venue with maximum hot girls AND YOU HAVE MONEY, nothing tops Scandallo. Fact.

2. If you seek a more balanced vacation with beaches and girls, Rio tops SP hands down. Fact.

Feel free to ramble on and we can ignore what we want. I actually enjoy *some* of your stuff. But let's keep the facts clear.

It is a matter of subjective, personal taste.

For me and for many, Centaurus and Perola Negra in the middle of the rio lifestyle is better than Scandallo in the middle of urban ugliness.

Even in SP, the best is Miruna at Ave Miruna 644.

Where would Alto bom gosto, the legendary ABG go?

Miruna, the clinicas, for a sustainable cost per fuck. Then to Tako Sushi in Liberdade for the all you can eat rodizio.

Moreover, the basic issue is who fucks better? The cariocas the rio girls fuck better. I believe that, and I've heard that from many over and over.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3055400]Vagabundo you are correct People can ignore your irrelevant meandering posts.

But we cannot ignore blatant misinformation like Centaurus is better than Scandallo (ignoring price). This is just factually inaccurate in virtually every way. Quantity, quality, venue. I respect that you get wasted a lot and maybe you were delusional at the time. Cool. But it's misinformation.

These I believe are facts that any man will sign up to if they have done both SP and Rio:

1. If you seek a luxe venue with maximum hot girls AND YOU HAVE MONEY, nothing tops Scandallo. Fact.

2. If you seek a more balanced vacation with beaches and girls, Rio tops SP hands down. Fact.

Feel free to ramble on and we can ignore what we want. I actually enjoy *some* of your stuff. But let's keep the facts clear.[/QUOTE]

I stopped in Mabs Tuesday night the pickings were a little better than Sunday night but still they tried hard but I didn't bite. Then I see 2 beautiful girls smoking and I go and chat with them they're both from São Paulo and staying a couple of weeks, they agree Mabs is sad and they have been to dolce vita. We exchange numbers they leave. I noticed in WhatsApp I've texted with her before because she is on Barra VIP, we didn't connect because I changed the time and she couldn't make it. She is very beautiful charges 1,000 reais, makes me wonder why she would go to Mabs and dolce vita.

Wednesday and Thursday I hit dolce vita and pick up 2 decent looking girls who gave great service, like to party and dance sex was great. Before I pick a girl I usually float around and talk to a few girls, age came up several times out of 4 girls they guessed my age to be between 44 and 49, I told them I was 50. I stopped telling girls I've been coming to rio for 46 years, some of them are good at math and can get a closer range of my age and I should be in a rocking chair drinking warm milk. But my confidence is up now and I'm thinking is 44 too old to enter Bosque bar? What do the experts think?

No, it is probably not too old.

I asked around my muay thai team and they said I could easily go to bosque bar, they'd go with me. Some of those are bouncers at bosque or the-edge. Cover is 70 or 100 r.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3055421]Wednesday and Thursday I hit dolce vita and pick up 2 decent looking girls who gave great service, like to party and dance sex was great. Before I pick a girl I usually float around and talk to a few girls, age came up several times out of 4 girls they guessed my age to be between 44 and 49, I told them I was 50. I stopped telling girls I've been coming to rio for 46 years, some of them are good at math and can get a closer range of my age and I should be in a rocking chair drinking warm milk. But my confidence is up now and I'm thinking is 44 too old to enter Bosque bar? What do the experts think?[/QUOTE]

I have lost count how many times I have been to Bosque, it's a great spot and I always have a good time. I would seriously caution guys against going and thinking they will see it loaded with GDPs that is just not the case. However, they have something better than GDPs!! Every single time I have been there, they were hosting a bachelorette party! I don't know why, but it seems to be the go-to spot for girls to party the night before the big day. In fact, on the weekends, you could easily find 2 -3 bachelorette parties going on at the same time. If you speak some Portuguese and don't come off like a sex starves tourist, you will have a decent shot of getting a number and hooking up with a civilian.

Look as to whether the information in my reports is reliable, see the attached disclaimer which is from none other than Twain, Huck Finn, which in turn is the basis for Django unchained, which in turn is the basis for the Brazilian rapper, Djonga.

Thursday, I fucked a prive fav for the above referenced CPFPM, which annualizes to about 18,000 USD, which again, is sustainable, Alto bom gosto like, forever.

You want some intel? Emporio has nia nacci quality tits on offer, Estrella. I do this every day. 5 days a week, sometimes 7, 2 brazilian girls a day, keeps me young, like my good buddy, Fidel Castro, who didn't die, he just took a boat to Rio.

Some other posters on ISG are right about gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] being the most important Brazil wide resource for mission planning to get your dick into the pussy and ass and mouth you want, and your tongue if your dick doesn't work. You know who you are. No problem with that. Or maybe your a passport sister and you like to suck on the tits and tongues of brazilian women, hey, vagabundo values his wing girls too.

As for misinformation and all of this hubalooo, it is misinformation to go all OCD on scandallo for new travelers because scandallo cost per fuck per minute is not what the majority of actual residents of Brazil would use. See GP-[URL]Guia.net[/URL]. Look up some other ISG posters, they post there to get their discounts. In Rio, the equivalent is GPArena, as I have said here alot.

Since I fuck brazilian pussy every day, I mix it up, I go all huck finn / django / djonga poetic and if you don't follow the art, you might miss the insight.

But you know what, the economist 500 greatest books of all time includes miller, tropic of cancer, which is more or less about a monger in paris, broke sort off, dealing with life.

Ignore me if you like, but if not, go suck on estrella's tits. Nia Nacci quality. I was already nut busted that day, but I am working up to several hours a day of fucking, as all good men should.

Unless you are sitting in pussy prison and the wife is scanning your phone for scan hoars and cutting your nuts off about paying for the kids private school and the invoices on your tanned brazilian cowhide biz are unpaid and the drones from el paso airport might just be cartel and you need that little bit of dopamine from another infrequent traveler to Brazil to validate that those testicles in your scrotum still produce sperm that are relevant. Then push upload report on your favorite memory of scandalo, and it will all be better.

Selah.

So after dinner last night I went to the fairmont hotel to take pictures of Copacabana at night about midnight. When I enter 4 milfs are sitting in the lobby area and they all give me a look, I go and talk to them but I don't have the patience to deal with normal girls it's late and coordinating 1 out of 4 is too complicated so I say goodbye and go to the elevator and a young girl walks out, I speak to her she says take my number. I am really feeling good about myself with this young girl LOL, I check her WhatsApp this morning and it's a business account so she's a working girl. I text her today it's apparent you are a GDP, come on over. She is a dental student and she says I can give her whatever I want, like the old days. Sex was great and I'll see her again, she says Fairmont has GDP's at the bar, it's been reported here before. I did go to dolce vita again last night picked up a tall slender blonde who was fantastic. I know many here monger differently but just portraying a different way that I like because for the most part I don't do Termas or prives, I do the lazy man guide to Rio.

Solarium must be the worst termas in Rio, it feels like being in Germany in a FKK full of cold Romanians.

Quattro por Quattro on the other hand is fucking awesome.

I swear I agree with Vagabundo now, Rio is better. I can fuck a 20 year old hottie with big tits, nice ass, tight pussy, sweet face, soft skin for 350 reais. I paid 500, because you don't cheap out on the time with a model like that!

When it comes to value for money, she's a perfect score.

BTW, the women in Quattro are there to fuck, that's the Brazil experience! 20 years old, looking like a model but gets down to F like a pro. Whats not to love about that?

The Cariocas, no meninas from Minas Gerais, are doing it in Quattro por Quattro!

Pohang, South Korea, Team SpiritT 93.

I bought a hoar for my radio operator. We almost got our heads cut off by a CH46 in a helicopter crash.

Pattaya Beach, Thailand, Cobra Gold 93.

I slept with a beautiful girl named Noi. I tried to pay her, but it was free. I saw her getting off of the USS Belleau Wood, super hot Cambodian looking girl with big tits. I slept with her on her hard matt mattress. Most beautiful girl I ever met, though then, I was a good choir boy. Since then, I have become a little less civilized.

In addition to the other places I have noted.

Yes, I think Rio is one and done. If you want Asian women, go to SP for a few days.

You?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;3055216]Vagabundo, can I ask... Where else have you lived and/or traveled frequently to engage in mongering? Did you end up in RJ after scouring the globe for the best spot, or did you find RJ and say, "It can't get better than this"?

I am just trying to add some context to your point of view, stories, knowledge, etc.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

You like cigars? Who likes cigars? Velha Havana in pedra do sal soon.

By the way now is the best time to be in Rio!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3055400]1. If you seek a luxe venue with maximum hot girls AND YOU HAVE MONEY, nothing tops Scandallo. Fact.[/QUOTE]The way you wrote this, it comes across like you need to be wealthy or something. At least that's what I think of when I think about "having money", which I equate with being "rich". But, you don't even need to be rich to be able to afford Scandallo, at least not by North American standards anyway. I would say that if you're middle class comfortable (you work for a living or you're comfortably retired, you easily pay all of your bills every single month, you always have significant disposable income), then you can easily afford to play at a Scandallo type of club. You don't have to be rich to go there and enjoy it. To the max! I mean if you're middle class, mongering in places like Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates will strain your budget far more than mongering most anywhere in Brazil will, including at Scandallo. I consider myself to be upper middle class and stay away from the former two destinations. In Switzerland, I felt like I was paying way too much to get what I wanted. And in the UAE, I felt like I was paying way too much and not even getting what I wanted (I would rather monger in Switzerland)! Anyway, according to my definition of what it means to "have money", you don't need to be "rich" to pleasurably patronize Scandallo. And you can take that to the bank!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3055400]1. If you seek a luxe venue with maximum hot girls AND YOU HAVE MONEY, nothing tops Scandallo. Fact.[/QUOTE]I would add "and if you don't care about the service". Because it is very YMMV. Some folks here reported CBJs which is lame, especially given the high rates.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3055862]I would add "and if you don't care about the service". Because it is very YMMV. Some folks here reported CBJs which is lame, especially given the high rates.[/QUOTE]Maybe I have been lucky, but I have never had a bad session at Scandallo. Not one. And I have never had a CBJ anywhere in Brazil ever. And I never will. That's not about luck. That's about demanding what I want, and not being willing to accept anything less. Fortunately enough for me that's been an easy sell too. So easy in fact that I've never had to really "sell" a Brasiliera on a BBBJ. I just say what I'm looking for, and they say OK. Easy as 1-2-3! I have no conceptual understanding of how someone ends up with a CBJ in Brazil if they don't want one. What?

[QUOTE=TheCane;3055883]Maybe I have been lucky, but I have never had a bad session at Scandallo. Not one. And I have never had a CBJ anywhere in Brazil ever. And I never will. That's not about luck. That's about demanding what I want, and not being willing to accept anything less. Fortunately enough for me that's been an easy sell too. So easy in fact that I've never had to really "sell" a Brasiliera on a BBBJ. I just say what I'm looking for, and they say OK. Easy as 1-2-3! I have no conceptual understanding of how someone ends up with a CBJ in Brazil if they don't want one. What?[/QUOTE]Same here. I say "I'll give you x Reals if you do a, be, and see. " They usually say yes. If not, I move on. No selling, convincing or bargaining necessary.

And my good session % is extremely high in Brazil vs any other country.

Vagabundo coauthored this for the Swiss Navy.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3055584]Pohang, South Korea, Team SpiritT 93.

I bought a hoar for my radio operator. We almost got our heads cut off by a CH46 in a helicopter crash.

Pattaya Beach, Thailand, Cobra Gold 93.

I slept with a beautiful girl named Noi. I tried to pay her, but it was free. I saw her getting off of the USS Belleau Wood, super hot Cambodian looking girl with big tits. I slept with her on her hard matt mattress. Most beautiful girl I ever met, though then, I was a good choir boy.[/QUOTE]

Vagabundo is looking for girls who like to smoke in a session. Any tips appreciated. A friend is coming into town on 16 March looking for this fetish.

[QUOTE=Combo;3055901]Same here. I say "I'll give you x Reals if you do a, be, and see. " They usually say yes. If not, I move on. No selling, convincing or bargaining necessary.

And my good session % is extremely high in Brazil vs any other country.[/QUOTE]If you never had a CBJ like The Cane, how do you know offering extra money would work? Even if it works, and it did for me sometimes, a 150 session becomes 250. If you go to any places that you can't talk to the girl in advance, like high-end clincas, prepare to be surprised in the room. Whenever I read the posts like The Cane, and he is not the only one, I felt very comfortable and confident so I don't ask, then boom , CBJ, I felt so dumb. LOL.

Not trying to debate anyone, but for new comers, it is better safe than sorry.

Attached is the state from GPG from my earlier posts.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2857263]It takes skill to do what you have accomplished. I looked at the numbers posted on GPG. These are the two commonly mentioned places with the worst ratios.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3055400]
1. If you seek a luxe venue with maximum hot girls AND YOU HAVE MONEY, nothing tops Scandallo. Fact.[/QUOTE]

It is fact only for the men that are in Scandallo tribe that play the games. This is how I see the tribes and they are not mutual exclusive. Lux has no use for casa tribe.
[LIST][*][B]Scandallo 5000BRL tribe[/B]
Lux.
Public Validation. (the one who complains about price is cheap)
It is the best
Poker / scams.

[*][B]Casa 300BRL tribe[/B]
Value.
Self-Deprecating. ( I am cheap)

[*][B]Meu Patrinico 800BRL tribe[/B]
Value.
Online dating[/LIST]
If one doesn't agree with the above, you can define your own. Here is another Scandallo tribe.

[B]Scandallo 2000 BRL 800BRL tribe[/B]
Lux.
Public Validation.
It is the best.
Poker / scams.
Value, Only see girl below 800 BRL or 1000 BRL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3055929]If you never had a CBJ like The Cane, how do you know offering extra money would work? Even if it works, and it did for me sometimes, a 150 session becomes 250. If you go to any places that you can't talk to the girl in advance, like high-end clincas, prepare to be surprised in the room. Whenever I read the posts like The Cane, and he is not the only one, I felt very comfortable and confident so I don't ask, then boom , CBJ, I felt so dumb. LOL. Not trying to debate anyone, but for new comers, it is better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]Take note that I never said that I don't ask about a BBBJ in Brazil. I said that I have never not gotten one in Brazil. Understand the difference? One reason why I have never failed there is because [B]I always ask for what I want before going to session with a girl[/B], and BBBJs are non-negotiable for me. If a girl says no, then no deal. Lucky for me they never say no! But one should always ask beforehand to avoid any such nasty surprises as you describe. Why in the world would someone do what you did, and not ask for what you want before choosing the girl? Then you get in the room and she says no because you didn't make sure beforehand that it was included? You let the power balance shift from you to her, and you should feel dumb for not asking! The lesson for newbies? Don't be dumb! When in Brazil (or anywhere else for that matter), [B]always[/B] ask for exactly what you want (BBBJ, anal, kissing, whatever) [B]before[/B] you go to the room with a tute. And don't be ashamed. They have heard it all.

I have been 100% consistent about giving and following this advice. And if you're in Brazil, when it comes to a BBBJ, ask and most likely you will receive! I [B]always[/B] have. Without fail. Men, properly leverage your power to get to yes. Money makes the world go around, not pussy, and you have the money. One reason why I don't favor the clinicas, or any establishment where you're presented with a lineup and you're supposed to pick, is that you have much more limited interaction with the girl making it a bit more challenging to "interview" the girl to make sure you're going to get what you want. Nevertheless, clinica fans here do write about being able to talk to a clinica girl before taking her back. And during the times I have gone to a clinica, I can honestly report that my long, unbroken string of nothing but BBBJs remained unbroken. Praise to the Brasiliera!

[QUOTE=Nounce;3055932]It is fact only for the men that are in Scandallo tribe that play the games. This is how I see the tribes and they are not mutual exclusive. Lux has no use for casa tribe.[/QUOTE]Indeed, the "tribes" as you call them are not mutually exclusive. Scandallo lovers tend to like Casarao too. I know that I do for the talent and price point, but Casarao's rooms suck.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3055883]Maybe I have been lucky, but I have never had a bad session at Scandallo. Not one. And I have never had a CBJ anywhere in Brazil ever. And I never will. That's not about luck. That's about demanding what I want, and not being willing to accept anything less. Fortunately enough for me that's been an easy sell too. So easy in fact that I've never had to really "sell" a Brasiliera on a BBBJ. I just say what I'm looking for, and they say OK. Easy as 1-2-3! I have no conceptual understanding of how someone ends up with a CBJ in Brazil if they don't want one. What?[/QUOTE]I've only had one girl in Brazil demand a CBJ. She worked at Perola Negra and said she was studying to be a nurse. She practically lectured me about STDs. She was probably in the wrong profession. Despite my insistence, she would not relent. Given that I brought it up before we went to a room, I easily said no. Later on I found another girl there that did a BBCIM. I left happy.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3055955]Take note that I never said that I don't ask about a BBBJ in Brazil. I said that I have never not gotten one in Brazil. Understand the difference? One reason why I have never failed there is because [B]I always ask for what I want before going to session with a girl[/B], and BBBJs are non-negotiable for me. If a girl says no, then no deal. Lucky for me they never say no! But one should always ask beforehand to avoid any such nasty surprises as you describe. Why in the world would someone do what you did, and not ask for what you want before choosing the girl? Then you get in the room and she says no because you didn't make sure beforehand that it was included? You let the power balance shift from you to her, and you should feel dumb for not asking! The lesson for newbies? Don't be dumb! When in Brazil (or anywhere else for that matter), [B]always[/B] ask for exactly what you want (BBBJ, anal, kissing, whatever) [B]before[/B] you go to the room with a tute. And don't be ashamed. They have heard it all.

I have been 100% consistent about giving and following this advice. And if you're in Brazil, when it comes to a BBBJ, ask and most likely you will receive! I [B]always[/B] have. Without fail. Men, properly leverage your power to get to yes. Money makes the world go around, not pussy, and you have the money. One reason why I don't favor the clinicas, or any establishment where you're presented with a lineup and you're supposed to pick, is that you have much more limited interaction with the girl making it a bit more challenging to "interview" the girl to make sure you're going to get what you want. Nevertheless, clinica fans here do write about being able to talk to a clinica girl before taking her back. And during the times I have gone to a clinica, I can honestly report that my long, unbroken string of nothing but BBBJs remained unbroken. Praise to the Brasiliera![/QUOTE]I hate to negotiate A, b and c because it kills the mood. Why do I have to specify standard stuff like BBBJ and DFK and multiple pops (if time permits)? I understand if one has special, unusual requests like anal or golden shower. But other than that, everything has to be included because it is a high end establishment and we pay premium. And even if you do agree on, let's say, DFK, and she only gives you LFK once in the room, or if she is rushing you to cum, or whatever the issue is, what you going to do about it? Complain to the management? Or just suck it up, pay her and never repeat? This is why I try to avoid brothels anywhere in the world, and prefer sugar / online dating, because it feels less transactional and because I don't want to discuss what we going to do in the bedroom prior to meeting.

So I'll be landing in Rio on March 13th and this will be my first time there. Just wondering, is everyone getting their money exchanged at the airport or is there somewhere else I can go for better exchange rates?

Also, outside of the establishments, where are good places to source providers? In some of the other countries I've been to, they'd approach you in malls, beaches and even the gym but I have no idea what the scene is like in Rio.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3055977]I hate to negotiate A, b and c because it kills the mood. Why do I have to specify standard stuff like BBBJ and DFK and multiple pops (if time permits)? I understand if one has special, unusual requests like anal or golden shower. But other than that, everything has to be included because it is a high end establishment and we pay premium. And even if you do agree on, let's say, DFK, and she only gives you LFK once in the room, or if she is rushing you to cum, or whatever the issue is, what you going to do about it? Complain to the management? Or just suck it up, pay her and never repeat? This is why I try to avoid brothels anywhere in the world, and prefer sugar / online dating, because it feels less transactional and because I don't want to discuss what we going to do in the bedroom prior to meeting.[/QUOTE]It's your money. That makes it your decision to determine what level of risk you're willing to accept when spending it. As for me, if I know I want a massage with BBBJ / CIM and anal sex, then I'm going to ask about that to make sure it's on the menu before going to the room.

[QUOTE=AceBoogie;3055988]So I'll be landing in Rio on March 13th and this will be my first time there. Just wondering, is everyone getting their money exchanged at the airport or is there somewhere else I can go for better exchange rates?

Also, outside of the establishments, where are good places to source providers? In some of the other countries I've been to, they'd approach you in malls, beaches and even the gym but I have no idea what the scene is like in Rio.[/QUOTE]Never change money at an airport unless you are desperate.

You can travel to your hotel from the airport using Uber, and then change money near your hotel. I am using my US credit cards for many transactions (apart from paying ladies).

As for how to find women, RTFF.

[QUOTE=AceBoogie;3055988]So I'll be landing in Rio on March 13th and this will be my first time there. Just wondering, is everyone getting their money exchanged at the airport or is there somewhere else I can go for better exchange rates?

Also, outside of the establishments, where are good places to source providers? In some of the other countries I've been to, they'd approach you in malls, beaches and even the gym but I have no idea what the scene is like in Rio.[/QUOTE]Never ever exchange money in the airport.

Just search for "cambio" in the google map around your hotel.

But, on Sundays some places can be closed. Anyway, it make sense to take uber to the open exchange and back, then to do it at airport.

In discussing any hoaring venue, the reader should ask what is the CPF PM A.

It has come down to that in short hand because Vagabundo lives here and his annualized numberator is 365 days per year.

The reader should be asking, where is the writer when he is writing, and how many days per year is he writing about.

Yesterday, for example, again, I was in centro, went to central to get some sim chips which cost 15 r registered, then hit a prive before muay thai, skipping one of the two hours unfortunately with the hotter gringas. Another negative factor in prives is second hand smoke, or later the tia (manager) said maybe it is cleaning chemicals, which just feel toxic if not cancerous, which negated my cumming. I did cum at about minute 60 after 45 or 50 minutes, so the formula is.

250/45 cPF PM.

Vagabundo is a purist. F means dick in pussy, penis in vagina fucking. It is cardio cross training, which pumps my dopamine. I like the pussy more than the ass. She sucks good, but she knows it is the kunt, the pussy, I want, and get.

Now maybe there were other factors like hydration (it is a very warm humid, wet heat now in Rio, though it is the best time of year. Carnaval is over. Many though not all gringo tourists have gone. I live in a building with zero gringos, though Argentinians are gringos to the cariocas, and I guess euro hot women are gringas, and there are some of those, but there are zero Americans, which is good. I am at posto 3, barra, like 1600 meter walk to perola negra, it is safe, the locals do not tolerate crime, which is why I live here), maybe it was riding in a metro packed, no I don't roll with uber though I am glad to take an uber if a wingman wants to, and will spiit the costs.

OK, so that is CPFPM.

Now, here's the quant twist.

A.

Annualized.

Vagabundo's multiplier is 365. Because I live here. I have for 6 years as of Saint Patricks Day, and since I don't drink (much), I get drunk on pussy as much as possible. It may as well be 60 years.

When you, dear reader, read this board this forum, ask yourself, how long has that writer been in Rio over the last year, so what is his multiplier?

Let's say, he is writing about paying 1500 r for a girl for an hour. Let's say he gets it covered for the vaginal or anal sex. Let's say, he fucks for say 40 minutes.

1500/40 or CPFPM of 37.5 r per minute or like 7 dollars per minute of fucking with a condom on.

Let's say he gets to Brazil for 21 days a year in 3 trips of 7 days each or 42 days in 3 trips of 14 days each. Let's call it 30 days.

So, then take the 1500 x 30 and you get 45,000 r or 9000 United States Dollars.

Then, you dear reader, should ask: What does that writer do the other 330 days per year, and why is posting, and what does he get out of posting? Maybr a little dopamine hit out of publication, see the book The Anxious Generation by Haidt, which was written about kids, but applies to adults. I understand. On my 27 trips to Brazil, I have been there, since 2008, just speaking for myself, as a writer on ISG for most of that time from 2008 to 2020, I was self medicating for the real disease of.

Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome which is real because of TDS.

TDS is caused by the feminization, feminazification of society, by women cutting off the literal and figurative balls, testicles of men to make their fucking world perfect for fucking feminist idiots, and all Vagabundo can say is fuck that. I mean, I like strong empowered women IF And only IF my dick is in their pussy, bareback. Actually, I like submissive women.

Who is Vagabundo's dream women? Like a 18 year old Rihanna or Stevie Nicks or Madonna, a FInnish Madonna who looks exactly like the pornstar Elsa Jean (by the way, if you think my porn star references are obscure, go fuck yourself you overworked simp, many readers love my porn star referendes). I want a Annette Schwarz who ties up the porn star Sammie (a woman) Rhodes, an American blond with huge tits on a lean body, and American girl who never did interracial, never took a black real penis, but who did take a black strap on dick from Annette Schwartz, a hot as fuck German dominant and submissive woman. In fact, for 15 minutes of fucking my favorite prive girl in my apartment on Monday, I played that very scene on one of three screens. Her pretty face, pretty Germanic eyes locked on Annette Schwartz fucking the American Sammie Rhodes in her blonde kunt.

Or, like a Nia Nacci. Vagabundo is on like Nia Nacci 5. Estrella at Emporio is Nia Nacci 5. Nia Nacci 4 worked at Casa 13, a trash terma where Michelle Noemie Bilas Obama worked, and gave me her 19 year old negra pussy bare, pernoite for 300 reais, at my apartment, in love motels like Hotel Lips at Metro Cinelandia ([URL]guiadomoteis.com.br[/URL]). The Tia at Casa 13 reports that Nia Nacci 4 is in jail. Which makes sense. That girl could fight. Strong legs. She would fuck wearing only high biker leather boots that would give her feet stability for kicking, strong, muscular toned legs and of course, big suckable black tits, and a willing wet mouth that deep french kissed really well, with tongue. She took it bare in her kunt, in the poorly air conditiioned rooms at casa 13 for less than 150 r to the house and 50 r for the bare kunt. Now, hearsay says she is in jail, proably from robbing some client in Ipanema.

There was Nia Nacci 1 who I had been fucking since 2015, and who I passed around, that was Lorena, go back to my posts in 2015. In 2015, I was in Rio for 10 months, happiest year of my life by far, which is why I came and stayed when Covid gave me cover to do so.

So, the reader of this forum should ask -- how many days per year is the writer actually in Brazil? That is the A, the annualized in the formula. CPF PM A.

What is the writer gaining? Some ego boost? Vagabundo pleads guilty. Show me a man without an ego and I will show you a loser every time. You know who doesn't have an ego, an ambition that the sperm collecting by the billions in my huge big balls will breed all the French Rothchild jewish virgins to project my greatness for another 5865 years, me included due to my wealth and all the doctors it buys to map my awesome brain into some large language model attached to my huge cock.

Ask yourself, reader, is that writer really sitting in a sexless marriage? Sitting in some land locked desert border city with a wife who will not fuck because of whatever reason with kids that suck out money you don't have. So for 21 or 30 or 42 days, you get to Brazil, and you get gringo-ed. Getting gringo-ed is getting charged the prices of a sex tourist by locals who laugh at you.

And then the writer goes back to pussy prison, and due to Brazil Withdrawal Syndrome, while he maybe fucks 2 days a month through some seeking arrangement, and kind of gets by on asian massage parlor ugly old women who constantly ask for a tip otherwise -- he types up arguments about the details of that shining palace in the middle of a 20 million person megacity with prices that are pretty much the exact same as Vegas or Miami, though it is legal.

Long story short, Vagabundo's view is to be here for 179 days or ideally 365 days a year and make that your multiplier.

Could you be barebacking 2 hoars at Centaurus a day paying cash for 2650 r (with drinks) 365 days a year? Or is that Russian a once a quarter option?

Anyway, yesterday I had lunch at na brasa columbia at 12 h with a anon member who is shopping for a crash pad at posto 10 in Recreio, which is right where renzo gracie lives and Paris Cafe. Then I went and did some IT service at my university, decided to swap some defective sim chips and being in central did my aforementioned prive session to check that box.

I need to start checking out the aprecentacao at Prisma in Barra at Av das americas 500.

Word on the street is good talent is at Copa 583/302, that is a essential element of information in my patrol planning. The metro runs through all of it. Like the people mover in an adult disneyland. When I was a child, I would go to Space Mountain, the ride would penetrate space and stars would appear, now my penis is the car and it penetrates the pussy of a prive hoar, and I see stars, daily for 365. She is getting tested next week, so am I. The Monday fuck at my place was best because after 90 minutes of fucking for 300 r for a CPFPM of under 3 (not including uber which I bought her on my app of like 30 r) we went to my / our favorite sushi place, Temekeria at Olegario Maciel 373 exactly at opening at 18 h. We played out choice of porn, compilations we composed together, like Itanlian operas sung by castratos that we cultivated just for our listening and viewing pleasure, then we ate little seasoned strips of raw fish, some with just this salt, or just that garnish, all smoke free, all toxin free in my freshly cleaned apartment.

And then later, Monday night, I slept well, fed a healthy meal, and having fucked for 90 minutes which is not at the usual 120 minutes I was doing pre carnival, during which I largely avoided the crowds.

And I do this every day, I do this every week.

TBH, I don't understand why so many people still bring cash and exchange it. Use a debit card. There are plenty of ATMS. As long as you decline the offered conversion rate, which is always a rip-off, you're going to get the best exchange rate. I recommend the Charles Schwab debit card because it reimburses ATM fees.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3056160]TBH, I don't understand why so many people still bring cash and exchange it. Use a debit card. There are plenty of ATMS. As long as you decline the offered conversion rate, which is always a rip-off, you're going to get the best exchange rate. I recommend the Charles Schwab debit card because it reimburses ATM fees.[/QUOTE]I mostly use ATMs and occasionally exchange cash. Some guys use cash to avoid leaving a digital footprint.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3056160]TBH, I don't understand why so many people still bring cash and exchange it. Use a debit card. There are plenty of ATMS. As long as you decline the offered conversion rate, which is always a rip-off, you're going to get the best exchange rate. I recommend the Charles Schwab debit card because it reimburses ATM fees.[/QUOTE]Year ago, three ATMs from different banks refuses to accept my debit card.

I called my bank and they told me that, they did not declined anything.

It was declined by local ATM.

Hopefully, I had cash.

Just go to Eden Spa, just pick Nicole (25) or Luna (23), 250 reais for one hour and they are both good in the bed. Luna asked for a 60 reais tip for BBJ and after the session she asked for a propina, but she was still great in bed with a pretty face and for me the best ass. And that says a LOT considering how all women in Brazil have terrific behinds.

I went upstairs with 5 girls, 4 of them were great. One not so great, twofaced, and I managed to get in some problem with the management after telling a guy from the US that she was the worst pick I had made in all of Rio. I believe he went with her anyways, hopefully she got her act together or just appreciated the guy from the US more than she did with me.

Anyways, the manager scolded me and said it was none of my business. He's kinda right and as he said, not everyone has the same experience.

After getting lectured I paid my bill and went to get a burger at Clan BBQ and now I'm on my to Perola Negra to see if it's any good.

It's weird how the club was full and the best girls were already taken when I arrived at 17:30 to 4 x4.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3056172]Year ago, three ATMs from different banks refuses to accept my debit card.

I called my bank and they told me that, they did not declined anything.

It was declined by local ATM.
[/QUOTE]I, too, have experienced declined cash withdrawals at Bradesco ATMs with Schwab card in multiple cities (SP, Rio and Campinas) during one of the trips last year. I used Santander ATMs instead. I haven't had any such issues with Bradesco ATMs this year.

I've never had and issue with Bradesco in either Rio or SP. Itau has given me problems before, but since Bradesco is so common, it's never been a hassle getting cash.

I just successfully withdrew from two different cards at a Bradesco bank in a small town in the country. FYI.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;3056191]I went upstairs with 5 girls, 4 of them were great. One not so great... now I'm on my to Perola Negra to see if it's any good.[/QUOTE]Wow, so you fucked 5 girls in one session? And are still looking for more at another club? My hats off to you dude, and also to Viagra / Cialis!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3056041]It's your money. That makes it your decision to determine what level of risk you're willing to accept when spending it. As for me, if I know I want a massage with BBBJ / CIM and anal sex, then I'm going to ask about that to make sure it's on the menu before going to the room.[/QUOTE]Goddamn, I love it! You ask for A through Q LOL. I will say that Brazilian girls have offered me far more than I've ever asked for or agreed to. That tells you something. Some Brazilian dudes are into some wild sh*t.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3056220]I've never had and issue with Bradesco in either Rio or SP. Itau has given me problems before, but since Bradesco is so common, it's never been a hassle getting cash.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I get the dreaded Communications Failure.

I've been in Rio the past few days visiting friends. The only chance for fun has been to sneak out for some early evening action at the Monte Carlo. I'm staying a few blocks away. The current lineup is looking very nice with lots of different types and most very doable. Don't sleep on the MC.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3056449]I've been in Rio the past few days visiting friends. The only chance for fun has been to sneak out for some early evening action at the Monte Carlo. I'm staying a few blocks away. The current lineup is looking very nice with lots of different types and most very doable. Don't sleep on the MC.[/QUOTE]My last visit MC was very solid. That said, any termas can vary significantly from week to week. If you come back in a few weeks, MC might be mediocre, but 4 x4, Solarium, et al great.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3055977]I hate to negotiate A, b and c because it kills the mood. Why do I have to specify standard stuff like BBBJ and DFK and multiple pops (if time permits)? I understand if one has special, unusual requests like anal or golden shower. But other than that, everything has to be included because it is a high end establishment and we pay premium. And even if you do agree on, let's say, DFK, and she only gives you LFK once in the room, or if she is rushing you to cum, or whatever the issue is, what you going to do about it? Complain to the management? Or just suck it up, pay her and never repeat? This is why I try to avoid brothels anywhere in the world, and prefer sugar / online dating, because it feels less transactional and because I don't want to discuss what we going to do in the bedroom prior to meeting.[/QUOTE]I enjoy discussing the details of the upcoming session. I usually start with a question (vc e completa? That gives her a chance to state what she wouldn't do, like anal. Can be a part of the bunter and definitely doesn't kill the mood for me. And keep in mind that when you don't ask, you give her an excuse to refuse BBBJ later in the room, even if she would've agreed if you had asked her earlier.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3056481]I enjoy discussing the details of the upcoming session. I usually start with a question (vc e completa? That gives her a chance to state what she wouldn't do, like anal. Can be a part of the bunter and definitely doesn't kill the mood for me. And keep in mind that when you don't ask, you give her an excuse to refuse BBBJ later in the room, even if she would've agreed if you had asked her earlier.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm saying. Just because it's easy to get BBBJs in Brazil doesn't mean you shouldn't ask for one. [B]Ask[/B] and you shall receive! Don't ask and give a tute an opportunity to say no in the room.

Today I plan to checkout Mosaico. It seems it already gets busy at 11 pm on saturdays, at least due to google. I thought it's more of a late night venue. Can anyone confirm, what's the best time?

Last weekend got pretty wild. Did Casablanca, collected numbers, then DV and around 5 am walked over to Kalabria. Rough place, but did not feel insecure. No idea what time I went home, but woke up with a Casablanca girl- 600 R overnight BBFS. I like Rio.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3056481]I enjoy discussing the details of the upcoming session. I usually start with a question (vc e completa? That gives her a chance to state what she wouldn't do, like anal. Can be a part of the bunter and definitely doesn't kill the mood for me. And keep in mind that when you don't ask, you give her an excuse to refuse BBBJ later in the room, even if she would've agreed if you had asked her earlier.[/QUOTE]Since I have the money, and they have pussy to sell, it should be in their best interest to tell me what's on the menu vs me asking them x, y, z. If a girl approaches me with something like, "hey, I will suck your dick like there is no tomorrow if you take me to a room, and if you don't like it, you can pay whatever you feel like" I would most likely say yes, if she is my type and we agree on the rate.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3056569]Since I have the money, and they have pussy to sell, it should be in their best interest to tell me what's on the menu vs me asking them x, y, z. If a girl approaches me with something like, "hey, I will suck your dick like there is no tomorrow if you take me to a room, and if you don't like it, you can pay whatever you feel like" I would most likely say yes, if she is my type and we agree on the rate.[/QUOTE]Using your approach. What do you do if you're a guy expecting BBFS, and you get to room and she doesn't do it?

I agree with XSpartan that it's best to bring up your interests and use it as a way to have flirty banter.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3056554]Today I plan to checkout Mosaico. It seems it already gets busy at 11 pm on saturdays, at least due to google. I thought it's more of a late night venue. Can anyone confirm, what's the best time?

Last weekend got pretty wild. Did Casablanca, collected numbers, then DV and around 5 am walked over to Kalabria. Rough place, but did not feel insecure. No idea what time I went home, but woke up with a Casablanca girl- 600 R overnight BBFS. I like Rio.[/QUOTE]A bit of a later response, but in my experiences (2-4 years ago), Saturday's aren't that busy and 11 pm would be the earliest. Peak time is probably 1-2 am.

I have done a Casablanca girl for 600 R TLN, but didn't the 500-600 R exit fee hurt?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3055977]I hate to negotiate A, b and c because it kills the mood. Why do I have to specify standard stuff like BBBJ and DFK and multiple pops (if time permits)? I understand if one has special, unusual requests like anal or golden shower. But other than that, everything has to be included because it is a high end establishment and we pay premium. And even if you do agree on, let's say, DFK, and she only gives you LFK once in the room, or if she is rushing you to cum, or whatever the issue is, what you going to do about it? Complain to the management? Or just suck it up, pay her and never repeat? This is why I try to avoid brothels anywhere in the world, and prefer sugar / online dating, because it feels less transactional and because I don't want to discuss what we going to do in the bedroom prior to meeting.[/QUOTE]I agreed with you, until I didn't. I still assume DFK (and have 99% 'no ask' success), for BBBJ it's probably 90% in my 'no asking' experience, BUT it's 100% when I do ahead of time and it's a mood killer when you need to discuss in the room.

If a girl doesn't do something I usually suck it up and never repeat. But if multiple things and her attitude is bad I cut losses and throw her token change.

I too enjoy sugar / online dating, but I run into more girls that are stuck up and you need to invest more time and $$$ to do it. I don't always have the time.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3056576]A bit of a later response, but in my experiences (2-4 years ago), Saturday's aren't that busy and 11 pm would be the earliest. Peak time is probably 1-2 am.

I have done a Casablanca girl for 600 R TLN, but didn't the 500-600 R exit fee hurt?[/QUOTE]I ran into her at Kalabria. There were a few really good looking girls. Seems it's the last resort in the morning. Will go again tonight. Trying not to get too drunk though.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3056575]Using your approach. What do you do if you're a guy expecting BBFS, and you get to room and she doesn't do it?

I agree with XSpartan that it's best to bring up your interests and use it as a way to have flirty banter.[/QUOTE]I don't think BBFS is a reasonable expectation in a brothel environment. I love BBFS but fucking a pro without a condom is something I don't want to do because it is risky. This is why I don't like brothels / casas / term in general, and would rather fuck a semi-pro or non-pro.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3056654]I don't think BBFS is a reasonable expectation in a brothel environment. I love BBFS but fucking a pro without a condom is something I don't want to do because it is risky. This is why I don't like brothels / casas / term in general, and would rather fuck a semi-pro or non-pro.[/QUOTE]Got it, and I don't mean to drag this out. But do you think BBFS is a reasonable expectation from a semi-pro or non-pro in Brazil? Because I don't and it hasn't been my experience until at least the 3-4 x together.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3056576]A bit of a later response, but in my experiences (2-4 years ago), Saturday's aren't that busy and 11 pm would be the earliest. Peak time is probably 1-2 am.

I have done a Casablanca girl for 600 R TLN, but didn't the 500-600 R exit fee hurt?[/QUOTE]Started my Saturday night stroll at mosaico. 20 minutes in uber from copa, located in a very sketchy neighbourhood, homeless people, trannies roaming around. Entry 30 R consumable. Place itself felt safe, no scam attempts etc. Around midnight there were 15 girls maybe 20. The worst linup I have seen over the years in a club in latinamerica. 3's and 4's, overweight, trashy women, unbangable.

As the place got recommended here sometimes, it might not have been the best day to visit, but I just cannot imagine that the situation dramatically improves on other days. I will not return. Quality was simply too far away from my absolute minimal standards.

From Mosaico went to Mabs. It says a alot when suddenly Mabs girls become attractive. Last stop DV, where I found a smoking hot carioca. Slim, big natural boobs. The type of girl you meet and know it must be her tonight. The best I have seen in DV so far. She asked for some crazy amount, could talk her down to 1 k overnight. Great chemistry, initially insisted on condom, but at the end it was BBFS again.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3056700]Started my Saturday night stroll at mosaico. 20 minutes in uber from copa, located in a very sketchy neighbourhood, homeless people, trannies roaming around. Entry 30 R consumable. Place itself felt safe, no scam attempts etc. Around midnight there were 15 girls maybe 20. The worst linup I have seen over the years in a club in latinamerica. 3's and 4's, overweight, trashy women, unbangable.

As the place got recommended here sometimes, it might not have been the best day to visit, but I just cannot imagine that the situation dramatically improves on other days. I will not return. Quality was simply too far away from my absolute minimal standards.

From Mosaico went to Mabs. It says a alot when suddenly Mabs girls become attractive. Last stop DV, where I found a smoking hot carioca. Slim, big natural boobs. The type of girl you meet and know it must be her tonight. The best I have seen in DV so far. She asked for some crazy amount, could talk her down to 1 k overnight. Great chemistry, initially insisted on condom, but at the end it was BBFS again.[/QUOTE]And the stench! What about the stench of the sewer in the Mosaico neighborhood? I finally went my last time in Rio to say I had been there done that. I too shall never return!

[QUOTE=Safado007;3056700]Started my Saturday night stroll at mosaico. 20 minutes in uber from copa, located in a very sketchy neighbourhood, homeless people, trannies roaming around. Entry 30 R consumable. Place itself felt safe, no scam attempts etc. Around midnight there were 15 girls maybe 20. The worst linup I have seen over the years in a club in latinamerica. 3's and 4's, overweight, trashy women, unbangable.

As the place got recommended here sometimes, it might not have been the best day to visit, but I just cannot imagine that the situation dramatically improves on other days. I will not return. Quality was simply too far away from my absolute minimal standards.

From Mosaico went to Mabs. It says a alot when suddenly Mabs girls become attractive. Last stop DV, where I found a smoking hot carioca. Slim, big natural boobs. The type of girl you meet and know it must be her tonight. The best I have seen in DV so far. She asked for some crazy amount, could talk her down to 1 k overnight. Great chemistry, initially insisted on condom, but at the end it was BBFS again.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the same girl that I went home with from DV.

What's the proper TLN rate for a girl from DV? She started by asking for 1. 5 k but I paid 1 K.

She truly was gorgeous, around 160 cm tall, slim with big tits and probably the best pussy I've ever had.

We had some problems with the condoms so it became BBFS for a minute before she ordered larger ones.

I got her WhatsApp since she was talking about doing a Euro tour this summer.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3056706]And the stench! What about the stench of the sewer in the Mosaico neighborhood? I finally went my last time in Rio to say I had been there done that. I too shall never return![/QUOTE]LOL. Anyone curious of Vila Mimosa doesn't have to wonder beyond Mosaico. The stench becomes much worse when you go deeper.

That said, I must say, I had been pleased with Mosaico girls in the past. Haven't been in a while, though.

Probably a valid insight. Thanks.

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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3056654]I don't think BBFS is a reasonable expectation in a brothel environment. I love BBFS but fucking a pro without a condom is something I don't want to do because it is risky. This is why I don't like brothels / casas / term in general, and would rather fuck a semi-pro or non-pro.[/QUOTE]

This is vagabundo's approach. And yes, you can get BBFS on first session with girls at centro prives / boates (4 x 4, I have the doc's number who does the tests for the girls, and pass it on my local whatapp group)/ trash termas, see gparena dot net and gp-guia dot net. This is from my revision to the vagabubba guide, pm me.

The screening process / How to Get Bareback in Rio:

It is very important to get a good feeling with a girl. I always ask the following questions and listen to the response. I ask the questions with a smile and try to make her laugh a bit; if she thinks you are fun she will usually reciprocate.

My (BB's) questions:

1) Are you good in bed? She will of course say she is the best. This is the icebreaker, a chance for her to relax and loosen up.

2) Why are you the best? What do you do? This is a more serious question, hopefully she will offer up exactly what she will be like in the sack. I will let her answer a bit, and if she doesn't offer up what I want to hear I will then directly ask.

3) Do you do everything? Again I will let her speak and watch very carefully for the response. If she says she does do anal, I will then ask if she likes it and carefully watch for her answer, if she says she really likes it and smiles, well then I am thinking you are going to have a good time.

The above 3 questions will give her a chance to tell you what she likes and what she doesn't like. Usually the above the questions are enough to get her to say whether she does anal or not, without you having to explicitly ask. If she hasn't offered whether she does it or not then I will then explicitly ask. The way she answers is more important than what she actually says. If she says, "I do anal but it depends on how big your are", well that is a red flag, more than likely she doesn't want to do it (and when you get to that point in the room, she will say "Your dick is too big! Again if you have a fetish for CIM and she says "I will let you do it if you only have a very clean dick", again a red flag, good chance she is going to turn her head away during the money shot. On the other hand if she says "I will do everything you want, baby" and says it with a smile, then sticks her tongue down your throat, then that is a very positive thing and you are probably in for some serious fun.

VB's questions:

Vc ten filhos? Do you have kids? The correct answer is no because it is easier to get her for pernoite. Pernoite is my plan because my pro forma week is pernoite 3-4 times, for sex daily (sometimes I take Saturday's off with Temple, and to drill with the Swiss consulate active duty Naval Infantry).

Onde vc mora? Where do you live? The correct answer is not a favela because I want to be able to visit her. For example, Meier is not a favela, and actually a middle class 'hood where it is safe, near North Shopping, and easily accessible by bus 457 from Copa. You as a man want a relationship with a woman who you can fuck and shit shower shave supper and sleep at her place because it is more intimate, and you want more intimate sex as it is better sex. But I do not want to go to a outright favela.

Vc transa sem camisinha? Sou limpio. Do you fuck (vaginally) without condom. I am clean. I want to BBFSCIP or BBFSCIA (cum in ass, which may be preferable for birth control, as pregnancy is the ultimate STD). Yes, get tested, get her tested (tier 1 termas test, that is part of what you are paying for, so do tier 1 prives, again, the clientele is paying for a clean girl). I want it raw. If you use condoms, I recommend the local brand, SKYN.

Eu posso gozar no seu boca? If you can't fuck her pussy bare, cum in her mouth. Rio is for the aggressive. I've been at swings where I just go up to a **** and shove my dick in her mouth while she is getting assfucked, and cum in her throat, never even know her name could never find the **** again if my life depended on it, but she swallowed like a good ****.

I will also look for negative signs, including;.

If the first thing a girl asks is "buy me a drink" I will be immediately on the defensive; if she is anything less than smoking hot she will be dumped immediately. Yeah I want to buy a girl a drink, but only after a few questions and only after I have decided there is a good chance I am going to take her to the cabine.

If when offered a drink, the girl tries to order the most fucking expensive thing on the menu, then that is a huge negative thing. I will always ask, "what would you like to drink", I will order for her. Doing this shows you are not an easy target. Red Bull and a mixed drink together from a girl I have just met, are $ 25-50+, is taking the piss. On the other hand an ex "Brazilian girlfriend", ordered just that when we met, I was with a buddy and he was with her friend, what saved her was the following – she says "I know red bulls and vodka are expensive, but if you buy one red bull, we can order 2 vodkas separately (between the 2 girls) and that will be a little cheaper. " I don't mind buying an "expensive drink" for a girl, I can afford it. I just don't like the idea of being taken for a mug. There were also a few other positive things which led us to relax a little, we knew we were going to have a good time with those 2; sometimes everything just clicks and it did!

No kissing with tongue before going to the cabine: Just before I go to the cabine I will make sure she kisses passionately, I don't particularly want to kiss a girl with tongue in the main Boate, but I do want to know if she is passionate. If she does not use tongue it is a sign she is not going to be passionate -- a big enough negative to ditch her in some cases. In the cheaper places they won't kiss passionately in the Boate, they are used to Brazilian guys that will kick a lot of tyres first. Once they know you are serious, they will be a lot more liberal.

Additionally: I always make sure you get a good look at the girl. Sometimes lighting can be a bit ordinary. Sometimes a girl looks completely different when sitting down, particularly in Brazil, when you really need to look at the complete package while standing. Another friend of mine was sitting with a girl, and she did look cute. When he decided to take her to the room, she gets up and says, "So, you like a girl with a big ass, do you?" . . . To his horror he looked down and saw a massive Bunda (ass). This catch phrase has become part of our vocabulary, as in when a friend says, "what do you think of this babe?" to which you reply, "so, you like a girl with a big ass?" (I. E, her ass is a bit on the heavy side).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;3056654]I don't think BBFS is a reasonable expectation in a brothel environment. I love BBFS but fucking a pro without a condom is something I don't want to do because it is risky. This is why I don't like brothels / casas / term in general, and would rather fuck a semi-pro or non-pro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3056818]This is vagabundo's approach. And yes, you can get BBFS on first session with girls at centro prives / boates (4 x 4)

Additionally: I always make sure you get a good look at the girl. Sometimes lighting can be a bit ordinary. Sometimes a girl looks completely different when sitting down, particularly in Brazil, when you really need to look at the complete package while standing. Another friend of mine was sitting with a girl, and she did look cute. When he decided to take her to the room, she gets up and says, "So, you like a girl with a big ass, do you?" . . . To his horror he looked down and saw a massive Bunda (ass). This catch phrase has become part of our vocabulary, as in when a friend says, "what do you think of this babe?" to which you reply, "so, you like a girl with a big ass?" (I. E, her ass is a bit on the heavy side).[/QUOTE]Damn, I agree about getting a good look in the light before session.

One time I booked a session with morena Alexia:

[URL]https://moemaspa.com.br/portfolio-item/alexia/[/URL]

I was looking forward to banging this cute morena.

Take a good look because.

I was fvcking surprised when she walked into the room. She is actually a total branca — full blonde, very fair white pale skin, no bronze tone at all. Basically a sexy blonde using Instagram filters in the photos. Kkk.

She fits the standard Casarão / Gaugain / daytime Scandallo type lineup.

Not complaining still attractive. The tattos, body & instagram linedup but her photos definitely give a different impression.

Now I tell garotas from Centro Prives going with me to Panda or evening sessions I will pay by MercadoLibre pay or InfinityPay. Too many had their purse snatch by feckless motoboys targeting garotas leaving the building to the metro or onibus. Phones, purse, Grana robbed by armed dudes on the ominbus or smash & grabs.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3056889]

Now I tell garotas from Centro Prives going with me to Panda or evening sessions I will pay by MercadoLibre pay or InfinityPay. [/QUOTE]Is there a reason you don't use pix?

I am sitting here at cais do oriente with a ISG wingman.

My CPFPM is 250/50 so 4. 88888888 or so, roughly.

My wingman has compared me to Bukowski. We sit at the same window table where I sat with the diplomat. Too we discuss buying barra property, which shall be a theme.

Now, there is a bar Bukowski in Botafogo, where you must go to honor me, vagabundo, for I have been reincarnated through the spirit of Bukowski, who flows through my fingers. No, I am ganja free. I am simply under the influence of pussy.

Vagabundo Bukowksi.

One of Vagabundo's wingmen made this AI generated image, which is the only known image of Vagabundo.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3057016]I am sitting here at cais do oriente with a ISG wingman.

My CPFPM is 250/50 so 4. 88888888 or so, roughly.

My wingman has compared me to Bukowski. We sit at the same window table where I sat with the diplomat. Too we discuss buying barra property, which shall be a theme.

Now, there is a bar Bukowski in Botafogo, where you must go to honor me, vagabundo, for I have been reincarnated through the spirit of Bukowski, who flows through my fingers. No, I am ganja free. I am simply under the influence of pussy.[/QUOTE]

Vagabundo sits and reads Bukowski while listening to it on audible courtesy of a fellow ISG member who figured out how to hack the word doc.

For this and other courtesies, Saint (not) Vagabundo Bukowski, perhaps a mere demon, or perhaps a count, is grateful. That is meier Morena, and now, she still lets me fuck her ass bareback, and then ass to mouth. It keeps me motivated for muay thai, to fight off the other primates with penises who are trying the same thing.

As for why to come to Rio, it is because of asses like this, in hotels like this, Panda, in Botafogo.

I think I met Lydia Vance at my first poetry reading. It was at a bookstore on Kenmore Ave. , The Drawbridge. Again, I was terrified. Superior yet terrified. When I walked in there was standing room only. Peter, who ran the store and was living with a black girl, had a pile of cash in front of him. "Shit," he said to me, "if I could always pack them in like this I'd have enough money to take another trip to India!" I walked in and they began applauding. As far as poetry readings were concerned, I was about to bust my cherry.

I read 30 minutes then called a break. I was still sober and I could feel the eyes staring at me from out of the dark. A few people came up and talked to me. Then during a lull Lydia Vance walked up. I was sitting at a table drinking beer. She put both hands on the edge of the table, bent over and looked at me. She had long brown hair, quite long, a prominent nose, and one eye didn't quite match the other. But she projected vitality—you knew that she was there. I could feel vibrations running between us. Some of the vibrations were confused and were not good but they were there. She looked at me and I looked back. Lydia Vance had on a suede cowgirl jacket with a fringe around the neck. Her breasts were good. I told her, "I'd like to rip that fringe off your jacket—we could begin there!" Lydia walked off. It hadn't worked. I never knew what to say to the ladies. But she had a behind. I watched that beautiful behind as she walked away. The seat of her bluejeans cradled it and I watched it as she walked away.

I finished the second half of the reading and forgot about Lydia just as I forgot about the women I passed on the sidewalks. I took my money, signed some napkins, some pieces of paper, then left, and drove back home.

I was still working each night on the first novel. I never started writing until 6:18 pm. That was when I used to punch in at the Terminal Annex Post Office. It was 6 pm when they arrived: Peter and Lydia Vance. I opened the door. Peter said, "Look, Henry, look what I brought you!

Lydia jumped up on the coffee table. Her bluejeans fit tighter than ever. She flung her long brown hair from side to side. She was insane; she was miraculous. For the first time I considered the possibility of actually making love to her. She began reciting poetry. Her own. It was very bad. Peter tried to stop her, "No! No! No rhyming poetry in Henry Chinaski's house!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3057067]Vagabundo Bukowksi.

One of Vagabundo's wingmen made this AI generated image, which is the only known image of Vagabundo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Safado70;3056987]Is there a reason you don't use pix?[/QUOTE]I'm opening a Pix bank account with Santander or Bradesco and doing that annoying brasilian psychological test to get local driver's license. Wtf they should require the motoboys to pass a stupidity & patience test everyday before they are on the road. the motoboys delivering 520 to the love motel can be exempt kkk

Friday, I had a regular over for a few hours in the afternoon. She arrived at 14 h30, and we fucked for about 75 minutes total watching some of our favorite porn and listening to Sambo and Felipe Ret. Had a beer which probably degraded the total minutes a little. I had trained muay thai two hours the previous day, Thursday. Afterwards we went to Sushi at Olegario Maciel 373 at the always excellent Temekeria.

ISG member SmokersRule was in town and is a good man, good to catch up a little, though we did not get to Mosaico, maybe due to the rain on Thursday.

It is said by locals that there are two seasons in Rio -- Hell and Summer. Now Summer has started with the end of Carnival and it is summer until November. Best time of year to be in Rio IMHO. Prices are down by 50% or more.

She is week 3 post op. 32 DD on a small frame.

I recommended smaller cup size to be proportional, but she insisted to go big. So I said take my money.

Plan to fuck her for the next 5 months daily, from Rio to SP to Floripa to Patagonia.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2421812]Visiting Rio has been on my bucket list for some time and finally was able to make the visit recently.

I am a frequent visitor of Colombia and always wanted to compare the two which made possible by amazing Copa airline airfare and 4 to 1 currency.

Below are my experiences and hope it helps future mongers to avoid any shortcomings.

And, if you google mongering in Rio, you will able to find detailed guide from blogger which helped me a lot.

ATM- Used Bradesco bank exclusively without any issues.

Food- Due to limited Portuguese, only dined at buffet style restaurants and the food was amazing.

Uber- It worked amazing and used it everywhere. Super cheap as well and forget the taxi.

Massage parlors:

Prive Euro Barra: Located in Barra the Tijuca area and open on Sundays.

You must give the copy of passport to the building attendance in order to enter the building. Session with this girl and she gave amazing BBJ with CIM. She was only one available.

[URL]http://www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br/index.php/equipe/5-lorena[/URL]

Copa 583- Located in Copa area and same building as Eden Spa. Probably has the best room and shower that I have seen in my mongering times. It's white color with very clean place. Unfortunately, most of girls aren't that attractive and only session once desperate of vising multiple times. Very nice front desk host.

Eden Spa- Same building located with Copa 583 on 4th floor. They always had pretty girls and had some good time here. The only negatives are small room and shower room is separated. Highly recommended.

Bel Prazer- Centro parlor which always had few mongers in waiting room. Heard good things about it but highly disappointed with looks of girls. Mostly 4-5's. Visited more than four times and never session here.

Duda Massagens- Sama thing as Bel Prazer. Disappointed with girls and never session.

VIP Therapy- Was my favorite parlor during my trip. The front desk host spoke perfect English and always had pretty girls there. Met a blonde who was my best experience during my trip. The fee was R100 which was like 25 dollars (still could not believe I fucked someone on 9 scale for that price).

Espao Shiva Terapias- Place in Centro where many other parlors operate out of same building. Walked in and was advised that they do not offer sex and only massage.

Julia Massagens- Yikes, ugly girls and place looked dirty. Same building as Duda Massagens.

Espao Mente Corpo- A bit of walk from Centro metro station unlike another Centro parlor locations. A nice front desk host and had many girls available. Session once and it was ok (worthy of visit).

J Panteras- Place moved or closed. Rang the doorbell and some elderly women answered the door.

Mab's / on-line:

Mab's- My apt was literally across from Mab's and visited every night. Not sure but just did find any women attractive. Try to go over to Dolce Vita but never went since figured most women would come to Mab's first anyway.

On-line / photoacompanhantes: heard feedback that many posts were bait and switch and it was true to my case. This was my worst experience in Rio.

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/capital/copacabana/adoro-sexo-quero-dar-prazer-e-gozar-bem-gostoso-tambem-sua-melhor-escolha-id-y4nyy[/URL]

Visited this girl and was promised anal and CIM for R150. When I went, she was in one of building in Copa area and was sharing the apt where office cubicle with no lighting (pitch black). It was like low end brothel set up where I can hear people fucking next to it. Once I realized, it was too late. I just asked the girl to give BJ with CIM so I can leave quickly which she denied. Paid her R100 instead Pretty much jerked off quickly and ran out there.

Termas:

Termas 44: Every time I was in Centro, stopped by to see if was opened. It looks like construction is finished but still closed.

Termas Monte Carlo: Terma in Copa area. Kind of pricey but had few good sessions there. Found one solid 9 and had wonderful times. The bar area is kind of small though.

Termas 65: Centro Terma and highly recommended. Cheaper than Monte Carlo and other high end termas visited. The front desk host spoke perfect English and had a good time. This is the place that I felt about Brazilian women superior than Colombians. The best sex that I ever had at this place with one chick.

Termas 502: Centro Terma which you do not need to put on the white rope. Maybe I went too early but they weren't too many girls and did not session.

Termas Solarium- Visited this terma on my last night on Friday and was highly disappointed with quality of girls that I saw. Had a such of high expectations of being one of best of place but it lacked the quality and ended up going to Monte Carlo for my last place of the trip. Again, front desk spoke perfect English.

Final thought: Even with 4 to 1 currency and spending nine days, spent tons of money unlike Colombia. Again, maybe I had too much of high expectations where I would find 10's on every place but I didn't. And, I'm not too much of fan of tattoos on girls and many girls in Rio had too much of it. I certainly enjoy the beach scene and touristy stuff that Rio had to offer but glad I was able to knock off my bucket list. Not sure where my next stop will be but heard great things about Sao Paulo which I am looking into now.[/QUOTE]Wow, didn't realized it has been six years that I haven't been to Rio. Ended up stick to SP all these years and finally going back for few days.

I got my cell stolen in Rio and just never gave a chance after.

I'm aware of Monte Carlo, Centaurus, Solarium, Dolce Vita for night spots and Eden spa for daytime spots.

For Rio vets, can you recommend some spots for daytime actions and for 4 x4 in centro, is it safe to visit during the night time?

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3057758]She is week 3 post op. 32 DD on a small frame.

I recommended smaller cup size to be proportional, but she insisted to go big. So I said take my money.

Plan to fuck her for the next 5 months daily, from Rio to SP to Floripa to Patagonia.[/QUOTE]Any more backstory? LOL sounds interesting / fun.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;3056191]I went upstairs with 5 girls, 4 of them were great. One not so great, twofaced, and I managed to get in some problem with the management after telling a guy from the US that she was the worst pick I had made in all of Rio. I believe he went with her anyways, hopefully she got her act together or just appreciated the guy from the US more than she did with me.

Anyways, the manager scolded me and said it was none of my business. He's kinda right and as he said, not everyone has the same experience.[/QUOTE]I think we all share info with each other at the termas. I try to do it on the down-low.

Some rare guys get possessive of their "exes", but for the most part guys are happy to share info. Some of my best termas experiences have been on the account of a tip from a fellow traveler.

[QUOTE=IGotFingers;3058171]Any more backstory? LOL sounds interesting / fun.[/QUOTE]I met her at a mall where she worked. She is a civilian. I am compensating her salary for the next few months as she is not working. Super reasonable amount of money per month plus for the breast augmentation. I might still get some act actions, but she will be my main chick for the time being.

Follow my adventure in SP page as I am SP now.

I came across this Facebook page which has a lot of PG rated photos from the 1990's and 2000's.

It will be a ride down memory lane for many of you. I certainly remembered many faces and some asses.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/36414212469/media[/URL]

Nice receptionist who spoke perfect English and explained all the house fees (see attached photo).

Went to the locker & put on a robe and took a shower before handing to the bar.

Once entered, maybe 10-12 girls and all of them stood up for presentation.

Felt super awkward as I am not used to have all the girls stare at me to get picked.

The talent was ok, not anything special. The R180 entry does not include any free drinks.

Isn't a CBJ or an ask for tips for BBBJ is an even worse mood killer? I don't like negotiation with garota, although a simple question such as-'Oral without condom, right?' doesn't sound like negotiation, only a confirmation.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3056578]I agreed with you, until I didn't. I still assume DFK (and have 99% 'no ask' success), for BBBJ it's probably 90% in my 'no asking' experience, BUT it's 100% when I do ahead of time and it's a mood killer when you need to discuss in the room.[/QUOTE]

Is there such place in Copa area? Ready to go to Ipanema or Centro. So far I visited Eden SPA, Massagem / Sala 302 (both at Nossa Senhora Copacabana, 583) and Delirio Oriental, no problems with garotas, but room size in each of these places is kind of depressing, walk in a public areas to the bathroom is a bit weird and there is no cover on pillows they use. I am not looking for anything fancy, Tangara and Yankin in SP worked just fine.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3058455]Is there such place in Copa area? Ready to go to Ipanema or Centro. So far I visited Eden SPA, Massagem / Sala 302 (both at Nossa Senhora Copacabana, 583) and Delirio Oriental, no problems with garotas, but room size in each of these places is kind of depressing, walk in a public areas to the bathroom is a bit weird and there is no cover on pillows they use. I am not looking for anything fancy, Tangara and Yankin in SP worked just fine.[/QUOTE]Emporio do Banho, Dudas, and Bel Prazer have shgowers in the rooms.

Massagemtijuca too?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3058462]Emporio do Banho, Dudas, and Bel Prazer have shgowers in the rooms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3058318]The talent was ok, not anything special. The R180 entry does not include any free drinks.[/QUOTE]How would you compare talent level at Monte Carlo to Eden in copa and Bel Prazer or duda in centro?

I was in Rio last week and saw at least one gem at Eden who was better than anyone in the current line-up of Monte.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3058493]Massagemtijuca too?[/QUOTE]Yes. Also Anne Massagems in Tijuca.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3058455]Is there such place in Copa area? Ready to go to Ipanema or Centro. So far I visited Eden SPA, Massagem / Sala 302 (both at Nossa Senhora Copacabana, 583) and Delirio Oriental, no problems with garotas, but room size in each of these places is kind of depressing, walk in a public areas to the bathroom is a bit weird and there is no cover on pillows they use. I am not looking for anything fancy, Tangara and Yankin in SP worked just fine.[/QUOTE]In Copa, you can try Prisma Terapias but it is kind of pricey once you add the sex & massage together.

Wasn't a fan of Eden, 583 and Delirio Oriental and also looking for alternative daytime options.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3058462]Emporio do Banho, Dudas, and Bel Prazer have shgowers in the rooms.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. The old morena grandma at Dudas takes pride in cleaning the rooms. She cleans the showers, fresh clean room smell, xtra towels, spot to recharge phones, small shelf space on the bed to place the whiskey, marola 520, and blue tooth speaker. Its snug fit for threesomes.

I wish she worked in Tangara, Casarao and Spa Moah, the dudes cleaning in those places do a crappy job cleaning the rooms. Though spa moah just hired the cleaning lady from enjoy. At Vani way it seems the garotas clean the room themselves or at least responsible for cleaning the shower. Lux, Abbobora have clean and decent room sizes.

Yankin & Prime Moema & Miruna room sizes is mas e menos size not large not small just ok, cleaning is ok, AC doesn't always work.

Back to Rio: Solario has tiny fvking rooms, the bigger room wasn't worth it for threesomes, MC has one or two decent rooms for three somes. But fuvking phone charger is in an absurd place. I do reserve the larger rooms quick. While dudes are lined in the hallways with drinks in their hands waiting for garotas to exit the lockers.

the places with hallway showers seem to have a weird setup so dudes dont pass each other in the hall. some of my best performers were from Eden. i make the effort to stay in touch cause garotas pass thru that place. A flaming hot sexy garota at Eden was the first time i did the bucklist of mother daughter combo on mothers day at Panda in botafogo. the report is in archive somewhere. Eden garotas will do the unspeakable and have heard it all before kkkk

Those 5 places with showers are your best patrol route for rio centro and Tijuca prives.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3058578]Completely agree. The old morena grandma at Dudas takes pride in cleaning the rooms. She cleans the showers, fresh clean room smell, xtra towels, spot to recharge phones, small shelf space on the bed to place the whiskey, marola 520, and blue tooth speaker. Its snug fit for threesomes.

I wish she worked in Tangara, Casarao and Spa Moah, the dudes cleaning in those places do a crappy job cleaning the rooms. Though spa moah just hired the cleaning lady from enjoy. At Vani way it seems the garotas clean the room themselves or at least responsible for cleaning the shower. Lux, Abbobora have clean and decent room sizes.

Yankin & Prime Moema & Miruna room sizes is mas e menos size not large not small just ok, cleaning is ok, AC doesn't always work.

Back to Rio: Solario has tiny fvking rooms, the bigger room wasn't worth it for threesomes, MC has one or two decent rooms for three somes. But fuvking phone charger is in an absurd place. I do reserve the larger rooms quick.[/QUOTE]

So vagabundo went into centro and did a prive girl for a cpfpm of 4. 888 from a calculation of 250 r paid for 50 minutes of dick in kunt fucking.

Then I did 5000 steps with jimmyboy, who is 107 years old, as I am 87, both of us from Italy, though my family is from the North, and his is from the boot, the dirty scum unwashed, unclean, and totally unredeeming.

We compared notes on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL], then other mongering issues. Posting reviews on gp-guia dot net in SP will get you a discount.

That's a valuable pro tip.

We went down lapa's main drag, mem de sa, took a left at gomes freire, went down rua rezende to the ganja cofffee shop which is out of biz, patrolled some new brew joints with brews labled gringo, to which I say to the locals, go fug yerself you poor as briics mo fuggers, you wish you were a gringo and getting paid a retirement in swiss francs or some rich world currency.

We did a box pattern and took right turns at the bombeiro building back to lapa and to rua do senado, the best street in the world? According to some reports, but in actuality quite a street party.

In the broader world, it is good to link up with other mongers because most other people suck. We are kind of a small minority, the happy few. Though, scumballs.

Selah.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3058308]I came across this Facebook page which has a lot of PG rated photos from the 1990's and 2000's.

It will be a ride down memory lane for many of you. I certainly remembered many faces and some asses.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/36414212469/media[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh better, simpler times.

Thanks for the link, enjoyed these photos.

Visited yesterday and it was completely dead inside.

Maybe 2 girls and entry fee is R55 (attached is their pricing).

Advised that Centro Termas are slow on Fridays since most of customer which are married went home for the weekend.

Finally was able to visit this place since place was closed down due to the fire last time visited Rio.

Just as described, girls walking around with bikinis and noticed many girls have whole back tattooed which was interesting.

Unlike SP, most of girls are local and very edger to take you up for sex.

Two floors but during my visit, only upstairs was opened.

Visited Thursday & Friday same time around 5 pm and Thursday was noticeably busier with more girls.

Had a great time and pricing sheet is attached.

Lastly, there is no money difference using credit card vs cash which is plus.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3058676]Visited yesterday and it was completely dead inside.

Maybe 2 girls and entry fee is R55 (attached is their pricing).

Advised that Centro Termas are slow on Fridays since most of customer which are married went home for the weekend.[/QUOTE]Been wondering about 65 as I've missed it on my last few visits. Used to be great many years ago, but seems like it's faded.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3058678]Finally was able to visit this place since place was closed down due to the fire last time visited Rio.

Just as described, girls walking around with bikinis and noticed many girls have whole back tattooed which was interesting.

Unlike SP, most of girls are local and very edger to take you up for sex.

Two floors but during my visit, only upstairs was opened.

Visited Thursday & Friday same time around 5 pm and Thursday was noticeably busier with more girls.

Had a great time and pricing sheet is attached.

Lastly, there is no money difference using credit card vs cash which is plus.[/QUOTE]How was the quality of the girls?

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3058678]Had a great time and pricing sheet is attached.[/QUOTE]Good to see they're still waiving the entrance fee if you take a girl before 6 pm.

Nuru Mtua R$395 (1 h)+Sala Master R$125 (1 h)+Final Surpresa (probably HJ) R$125=R$645 plus whatever they ask for FS.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3058545]In Copa, you can try Prisma Terapias but it is kind of pricey once you add the sex & massage together.

Wasn't a fan of Eden, 583 and Delirio Oriental and also looking for alternative daytime options.[/QUOTE]

Went to Emporio do Banho, 7 or 8 garotas, only one was doable for my taste, but she said no to BBBJ, so no deal.

Next stop at Bel Prazer, picked small mulata, good service, no water pressure in the shower, so had to use plastic bottle for showering, unforgettable experience kkkk.

Next stop at Dudas.

Quite surprised with a difference in standards for decent fvcking conditions between Rio and SP.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3058462]Emporio do Banho, Dudas, and Bel Prazer have shgowers in the rooms.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3058624]Oh better, simpler times.

Thanks for the link, enjoyed these photos.[/QUOTE]I thought it was an impressive library of photos.

Some of the girls were knockouts. I myself remember a higher level talent in Copacabana across the board.

Help Disco was a spectacle of female allure at night. The beach was fun, but more subdued and less talent.

I never took photos inside Help, but as I would guess the staff was not too happy with cameras.

Saved this place for the last night of the trip and it was disappointed.

The place is small and maybe 15 girls total but none of them were attractive.

It was Saturday night and it was busy with many local customers.

Noticed that girls do not approach customers and they give discount on entry if pay with cash R150.

The rooms are small just like Monte Carlo and pricing is attached.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3058699]How was the quality of the girls?[/QUOTE]Within all termas, think 4 x4 has most of amount of girls and hot ones.

[QUOTE=Combo;3058680]Been wondering about 65 as I've missed it on my last few visits. Used to be great many years ago, but seems like it's faded.[/QUOTE]It was a shame as I really liked this place from last trip.

I would not pay entry to get in as 4 x4 is right next to it.

[QUOTE=Combo;3058680]Been wondering about 65 as I've missed it on my last few visits. Used to be great many years ago, but seems like it's faded.[/QUOTE]Termas 65 or "meia cinco" used to be one of my absolute favorites in Rio. Many great memories. So many hot girls I had the pleasure of there!! Sadly, it hasn't been good for many, many years now. We can only keep hope alive for a rebirth!

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3059001]It was a shame as I really liked this place from last trip.

I would not pay entry to get in as 4 x4 is right next to it.[/QUOTE]That is not correct. 4 x4 is at Rua Buenos Aires 44 but Termas 65 is 2 streets away at Rua do Rosario 65.

Anytime you do 4 x 4, you need to consider the secret termas.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3059001]It was a shame as I really liked this place from last trip.

I would not pay entry to get in as 4 x4 is right next to it.[/QUOTE]

It's less than two futbol fields away.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3059277]That is not correct. 4 x4 is at Rua Buenos Aires 44 but Termas 65 is 2 streets away at Rua do Rosario 65.[/QUOTE]

Sunday, K08, the week in baseball.

So, it was Sunday. Jimmyboy finally came to Barra. We walked around, stopped at K08 beach club, vagabundo swam in the calm water. The cover is 15 r worth it, coco water cost 10 r, large espresso cost 17 r.

Classico Beach Club is the freelancer hangout, and it is. The better call is to go to a beach barraca.

The stroll from posto 3 to posto 2 is.

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=kS0C3bD-CXayCZbs[/URL]

For the past week, Vagabundo pretty much did what he always does, like CPFPM 4. 7 mma crosstraining.

OK, lads, lets talk about that.

Huddle up.

Coach Vagabundo had started the CPFPM based on some mongers saying they fucked for like 6 minutes. Or 2 minutes. Some providers insist on come right away, because they fucking smoke or drink or both. Hint Hint.

Vagabundo trains muay thai. Not because he is a bad ass. Because it is training for sex in Rio. Because Rio is dangerous. Because some of these hoars will lure you into an ambush and run away while the criminals take your cell phone. So.

Now, the truth is that from debriefing other mongers, it appears that as one ages, things like deep french kissing become more important. Yes, that is true, and that is a reason to talk to other mongers, like Jimmyboy who has a script. Not a bad idea. In Portuguese. Hard to imagine many of the posters here doing that.

So, that is a take away.

Now let's break this huddle on a loud America SWISS NAVY Fuck yeah!, and go out there and get your pathetic dicks up and put it in some Brazilian pussy!

For like, a good price. Or, fuck, I don't care, for whatever price.

As discussed, many centro prives, like emporio, have better, bigger rooms with showers IN THE ROOMS.

Which makes a difference:

If you haven't figured it out yet, customer of sex. The goal of the local fucking assholes brazilian criminals (they are all. If they weren't why is their exchange rate 5. 25 to 1?) is to separate you from your money.

In solarium, or any terma, they want you to put your money in a locker, ie, your card, in a locker, get in a fucking robe, and then go to the girls where.

You are thirsty, so you need to drink on their command.

You need to smoke, ditto.

You need a blue pill, 50 or 100 reais for that.

You need to fuck.

Ok, go with this girl for an hour.

15 minutes for her to shower.

5 minutes for her to inspect your dick.

9 minutes for her to put a condom on your dick.

8 minutes for her to explain that she doesn't suck dick without a condom.

9 minutes for her to explain that now, there is only time for a hand job.

So, repeat at the places where you can.

Go into the room, put your bag on one bed, take a shower while you watch your bag, and get 50 minutes of bare dick in pussy fucking for a 'hour'.

Selah.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;3058999]Saved this place for the last night of the trip and it was disappointed.

The place is small and maybe 15 girls total but none of them were attractive.

It was Saturday night and it was busy with many local customers.

Noticed that girls do not approach customers and they give discount on entry if pay with cash R150.

The rooms are small just like Monte Carlo and pricing is attached.[/QUOTE]

After a disappointing visit at 4 x4 2 weeks ago I decided to give the place another chance. Wednesday evening 8 pm, semana santa party, plenty of girls, busy with customers.

Lots of older, overweight women, enormous fake bundas, some younger girls, but lots of baby damage, cheap-looking silicone boobs, ugly tattoos. Low-class garotas. Think the bottom 20% of casarao. Not a single one I would bang. I am done with that place and with centro at all. Will skip the idea of visiting the centro prives as well. After 4 x4 and mosaico I think I know what to expect there.

Next stop perola negra. Quality slightly higher than 4 x4 but not much. 20-30 girls, nothing of interest for me. Had an interesting conversation with a local brasilian who lives in barra. " Unfortunately we have nothing amazing like in SP" His words!!

Next stop Casablanca. The quality of the night improved by 2 points. Maybe 20 girls, at least 5 I would have taken. Took the number of a hot slim branca. Will meet her on the weekend.

So far the recommended modus operandi by the self-proclaimed rio experts was to go to centro fuck some favela chica for 150 are that gets load dumped inside by local truck drivers 5 times a day. (and pretend you just banged a scandallo top model for 10% the price and all others are just too stupid).

Well, If someone is on a budget and ok with low (-er) quality that might be the way. For those who do not mind to spend some cash, here is my approach:

The quality on MP / SA compared to SP is quite similar. Of course SP has more volume in SP out of the let's say 10 k profiles maybe 10% are hot and RJ out of the 2 k profiles also 10% are hot. That gives a pool of 200 girls, with new ones signing up every day. That pool will keep me busy for my 3 months stay for sure. So far the quality of my online-girls is the same here as in SP. These girls expect around 1 k for a date of a few hours that sometimes even leads to overnight.

During the day I take them to sel ipanema, evening boa praca leblon or isabel lounge at hilton amazing view from the rooftop. Most girls are students, crazy the amount of odontologia students here. Lighter skinned girls, no kids, well-dressed, manners. Not always available as some seem to be pretty focused with faculdade, but the good thing is they maybe do 2-3 dates per month only.

If only a few days in town I recommend to plan dates with several girls, as availability is not always guaranteed. If nothing works out which I doubt, there is always Casablanca, which I would call a small bomboa. Even when paying the saida fee, total would still be alright for those accustomed to sp pricing. Next door dolce vita is definitly also a good option. I always find something there. Just keep in mind this is not the 200 R scene.

Conclusion: There is actually quality to be found in rio, it is just not there where the local cost per fuck per minute heroes wants make members to believe. The girls here are not stupid and know their value, especially the hot ones. I am thinking to move to ipanema, better girls than copa on the beach and the civilians I saw in the area praca nossa senjora the paz insane. I should be more active there during the day.

After 5 weeks now I absolutely love rio and will plan another 3 months stay later this year. Do not want to do more than 183 days a year to avoid visa and tax issues.

I went to 4 x 4 on two different nights in March 2025. I know I had a great time and liked the place. Many girls had full back tattoos & I picked one girl who had that done.

Gang, as a group of friends from the States, we fly to nearby places for mongering trips every six months. We've been to Medellíand, Costa Rica, Panama, and Tijuana. Now we're planning to do Brazil—either São Paulo or Rio.

I've been following (trying to, at least) this forum and absorbing as much info as I can. But I get the impression that prices there are higher than in Medellíand or Tijuana. So the question on the drawing board is: is it worth flying that far to pay more?

Our other options are the Dominican Republic, or we could fly the same distance to Berlin.

Would you mind sharing your experience on why São Paulo is better and worth doing? Also, what are the average prices?

Thanks,

Nextdoorguy.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059564]Gang, as a group of friends from the States, we fly to nearby places for mongering trips every six months. We've been to Medelland, Costa Rica, Panama, and Tijuana. Now we're planning to do Brazileither So Paulo or Rio.

I've been following (trying to, at least) this forum and absorbing as much info as I can. But I get the impression that prices there are higher than in Medelland or Tijuana. So the question on the drawing board is: is it worth flying that far to pay more?

Our other options are the Dominican Republic, or we could fly the same distance to Berlin.

Would you mind sharing your experience on why So Paulo is better and worth doing? Also, what are the average prices?.[/QUOTE]The problem with Sao Paulo is that there isn't much to do when you finish mongering.

Conversely, Rio is a super tourist destination.

The lady prices might be a little higher than HK in Tijuana, but if you can afford the flight to Rio, not a big deal. I would stay in Copacabana. Maybe a few nights in a beachfront hotel, then get a condo rental near the beach.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059564]I've been following (trying to, at least) this forum and absorbing as much info as I can. But I get the impression that prices there are higher than in Medelland or Tijuana. So the question on the drawing board is: is it worth flying that far to pay more?

Our other options are the Dominican Republic, or we could fly the same distance to Berlin.[/QUOTE]I am from Atlanta. Growing up, every year my parents would take me to Daytona Beach or Panama City Beach in Florida, where these days a room may set you back $100 per day. Some years back, me and my girlfriend at the time went to Maldives where we paid $1000 per day for a room. Do you think it was worth flying that far to pay ten times more?

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059564]Gang, as a group of friends from the States, we fly to nearby places for mongering trips every six months. We've been to Medelland, Costa Rica, Panama, and Tijuana. Now we're planning to do Brazileither So Paulo or Rio.

I've been following (trying to, at least) this forum and absorbing as much info as I can. But I get the impression that prices there are higher than in Medelland or Tijuana. So the question on the drawing board is: is it worth flying that far to pay more?

Our other options are the Dominican Republic, or we could fly the same distance to Berlin.

Would you mind sharing your experience on why So Paulo is better and worth doing? Also, what are the average prices?

Thanks,

Nextdoorguy.[/QUOTE]It depends on what you place more value: Vibe, food, people, girls, etc. I believe you should always visit Medellin and Sao Paulo, Rio, etc. Sao Paulo has a lot of variety, and it is the most populated city in LATAM.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3059585]It depends on what you place more value: Vibe, food, people, girls, etc. I believe you should always visit Medellin and Sao Paulo, Rio, etc. Sao Paulo has a lot of variety, and it is the most populated city in LATAM.[/QUOTE]I would say that on average, the Colombiana is hotter than the Brasiliera. But, there are so many more people in Brazil that you're going to find plenty of hotties to do the nasty with. Brazil has more than you can handle due to just sheer numbers of people!

I don't disagree with your report. Since I am the obvious cost per fuck hero, I just want to address that pros are only part of the sex and love diet in Rio. Since this is an anon forum, I will maintain opsec on much of the non pro part of my diet, except to say that on average training day, I fuck two or at least one hour for a solid 50 minutes for an hour of actual dick in pussy sex, followed by muay thai with a team where a lot of the team is hot women, many of whom become friends where I am with those friends for netflix and chill at surf hostels to binge watch violent series in my own language, and a whole world.

Now I will agree that many of those gringas stay in Ipanema, but it is not the best in Rio. Barra is best because it is safest, and the locals agree. The rich nepo baby college kids hang street signs from barra in their club houses where they smoke ganja, and that street sign Rua Aldo Bondai, see the attached map, which includes the infamous Olegario Maciel, which as I have written often is a self contained boate, open air, safe because there are no gringos, or like 1%, whereas Ipanama is like 40% gringos, which sucks balls, like put your toungue on the ball sac hairs of french nuts balls, and is why I hate Copa, because copa is too nearby.

Now as to Zona Sul, the best barrio for what you describe, namely non pro college girls is. Botafogo.

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=oVGMNSle5oQ05HX-[/URL]

Is a good video for barra beach. In the video which covers the area in the map you can see Classico Beach Club at Posto 2 which has a rep as a freelancer hangout, and that is true. But the whole beach is a freelancer hangout, up and down olegario which you can also see on the map. Perola is at av de pepe 400. The best sushi is Temekeria at Olegario 373, rodozio, the all you can eat.

Contrary to your report, there are good prives in Barra, namely Prisma Terapias. There were reports about this, and it is worth a monger coming to Barra in the day time for the apresentacao, which starts at 10 h. This is worth the 10,000 steps a day, or at least part of them which keeps the long timers like Jimmyboy in fucking shape at the advanced age of 107, but, he looks great for 107, still a spry 7 foot 1 black man who can dunk. Again, note that Vagabundo, 87, often uses satire. Look it up. It means I lie. For comedic effect. If you can't figure out what the lies are, they you need to RTFF.

OK, now as to Botafogo, see Swedish Gringo's channel on youtube.

And as for mongering mysteries, why have Czech in effect and Swedish gringo's channels not been taken down like other passport bros' channels.

[URL]https://youtu.be/lQngxj13AXo?si=t7p1ARUseGWcaWZO[/URL]

OK, now on the topic of property. The places that a high net worth investor should buy property are botafogo and barra / recreio. Both. For things like schools, social life, safety, the 3 S's.

Selah. Make that 4 S's.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3059407]
Conclusion: There is actually quality to be found in rio, it is just not there where the local cost per fuck per minute heroes wants make members to believe. The girls here are not stupid and know their value, especially the hot ones. I am thinking to move to ipanema, better girls than copa on the beach and the civilians I saw in the area praca nossa senjora the paz insane.[/QUOTE]

And as for girls.

[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

There is a reason that the tier 1 escort site is barravipsrio which has a section for Sao Paulo.

Just screen all Brazil hoars on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL], and for Rio [URL]gparena.net[/URL]

Some cyber accounting genius will tell us why you can't find scandallo on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL], or who pays who, and with those answers will unlock many clues we are all interested in.

The fact is that gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] is the biggest sex biz review site in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3059407]After a disappointing visit at 4 x4 2 weeks ago I decided to give the place another chance. Wednesday evening 8 pm, semana santa party, plenty of girls, busy with customers.

Lots of older, overweight women, enormous fake bundas, some younger girls, but lots of baby damage, cheap-looking silicone boobs, ugly tattoos. Low-class garotas. Think the bottom 20% of casarao. Not a single one I would bang. I am done with that place and with centro at all. Will skip the idea of visiting the centro prives as well. After 4 x4 and mosaico I think I know what to expect there.

Next stop perola negra. Quality slightly higher than 4 x4 but not much. 20-30 girls, nothing of interest for me. Had an interesting conversation with a local brasilian who lives in barra. " Unfortunately we have nothing amazing like in SP" His words!!

Next stop Casablanca. The quality of the night improved by 2 points. Maybe 20 girls, at least 5 I would have taken. Took the number of a hot slim branca. Will meet her on the weekend.

So far the recommended modus operandi by the self-proclaimed rio experts was to go to centro fuck some favela chica for 150 are that gets load dumped inside by local truck drivers 5 times a day. (and pretend you just banged a scandallo top model for 10% the price and all others are just too stupid).

Well, If someone is on a budget and ok with low (-er) quality that might be the way. For those who do not mind to spend some cash, here is my approach.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3059621]I would say that on average, the Colombiana is hotter than the Brasiliera. But, there are so many more people in Brazil that you're going to find plenty of hotties to do the nasty with. Brazil has more than you can handle due to just sheer numbers of people![/QUOTE]I agree that the average Colombiana is hotter, but as you and others noted, you do not have the variety. Brasilieras also aren't known to drug you. In my experience they are more 'honest' than Colombianas, but of course keep your sh*t locked away.

Two non-girl factors that might matter on a guy trip are 1) Food (Brazil's is actually quite good), 2) Beaches (Rio is one of the top, if not the top, in the world. Just chilling there is f'ing cool).

For me the mongering is better in Sao Paulo than Rio de Janeiro but the city of Rio is so much better than SP that overall I prefer a visit to Rio than SP, as a matter of fact rather than any other city in the world.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3059407]After a disappointing visit at 4 x4 2 weeks ago I decided to give the place another chance. Wednesday evening 8 pm, semana santa party, plenty of girls, busy with customers.

Lots of older, overweight women, enormous fake bundas, some younger girls, but lots of baby damage, cheap-looking silicone boobs, ugly tattoos. Low-class garotas. Think the bottom 20% of casarao. Not a single one I would bang. I am done with that place and with centro at all. Will skip the idea of visiting the centro prives as well. After 4 x4 and mosaico I think I know what to expect there.

Next stop perola negra. Quality slightly higher than 4 x4 but not much. 20-30 girls, nothing of interest for me. Had an interesting conversation with a local brasilian who lives in barra. " Unfortunately we have nothing amazing like in SP" His words!!

Next stop Casablanca. The quality of the night improved by 2 points. Maybe 20 girls, at least 5 I would have taken. Took the number of a hot slim branca. Will meet her on the weekend.

So far the recommended modus operandi by the self-proclaimed rio experts was to go to centro fuck some favela chica for 150 are that gets load dumped inside by local truck drivers 5 times a day. (and pretend you just banged a scandallo top model for 10% the price and all others are just too stupid).

Well, If someone is on a budget and ok with low (-er) quality that might be the way. For those who do not mind to spend some cash, here is my approach:.[/QUOTE]This is a very good and interesting report. You surprised me with your turn in your conclusion.

I thought you were bashing Rio as a destination. We all know its peak was several years ago.

However, you are still enjoying yourself.

Saúde!

Do you mind giving more details?

How SP mongering is better than Rio.

Why Rio is the best city to visit!

[QUOTE=Turgid;3059667]For me the mongering is better in Sao Paulo than Rio de Janeiro but the city of Rio is so much better than SP that overall I prefer a visit to Rio than SP, as a matter of fact rather than any other city in the world.[/QUOTE]

Not arguing here about how great and beautiful Brazil is, and if I offend anyone, my apologies.

The point I'm trying to explore is about VFM (value for money) and whether the long travel time is worth it for just mongering.

This is a group trip, so we're all discussing pros and cons—hence why I'm trying to validate my point of highlighting Brazil over the other options.

As for the type of mongers we are: we call ourselves moderate Doms. We're not into pain, kinky stuff, or anal.

Thanks,

Nextdoorguy.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059678]Not arguing here about how great and beautiful Brazil is, and if I offend anyone, my apologies.

The point I'm trying to explore is about VFM (value for money) and whether the long travel time is worth it for just mongering.

This is a group trip, so we're all discussing pros and conshence why I'm trying to validate my point of highlighting Brazil over the other options.

As for the type of mongers we are: we call ourselves moderate Doms. We're not into pain, kinky stuff, or anal.

Thanks,

Nextdoorguy.[/QUOTE]It really completely depends on your style. I personally love a vibey club where you can pick your girl, party for a while, make out and then fuck onsite. And a 80% chance of a good GFE. My second fave type of experience is a date like via Seeking Arrangment. And that's 90+% GFE for me.

I have been to Medellin one time. I checked out the club scene but did not like it. On the other hand the Facebook scene was unique and great. But as I say I prefer clubs or a real date. So for me, Colombia is not my fave.

I am sure you have read here that Scandallo in So Paulo is the best girls club on the planet if you can afford $400+ a night. And I 100% concur. For me I gladly pay that plus $1300 air fare and 12 HR flight just to visit Scan (and other clubs) a few times a year. I don't plan to return to Colombia. Brazil 100% worth it for me.

So what's your style and budget? That determines the answer. I suppose it’s in ur definition of value. If it means fuck a pretty girl at low cost then no point traveling farther for that. But if value means partying and fucking at the best girls venue on planet earth for a not unreasonable sum then come on down!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3059621]I would say that on average, the Colombiana is hotter than the Brasiliera. But, there are so many more people in Brazil that you're going to find plenty of hotties to do the nasty with. Brazil has more than you can handle due to just sheer numbers of people![/QUOTE]100% agree with you here. I am more into real blondes, red heads with bundas LOL.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059675]Do you mind giving more details?

How SP mongering is better than Rio.

Why Rio is the best city to visit![/QUOTE]SP is a financial hub while Rio is a toursit hotspot. I have met tons of Carioca girls traveling to SP to work. Girls from all over Brazil would rather travel to SP to work than RJ. As one girl put it when I asked why so many girls are in SP vs RJ and the varity, she said " RJ is good but they get more volume and higher pay in SP from international and local mongers. SP is like the NYC of Brazil. I love RJ for tourism and enjoy the vibe, and I find my type of girls as well, but just not in high volume like in SP in the boates.

It all depends on the type of girls you and your group like, also if you guys are going to do any tourism. I would say visit both RJ and SP on the same trip if you can and have more than a week.

RJ is like hunting in an open area while SP is like shooting fish in a barrel LOL.

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059678]Not arguing here about how great and beautiful Brazil is, and if I offend anyone, my apologies.

The point I'm trying to explore is about VFM (value for money) and whether the long travel time is worth it for just mongering.

This is a group trip, so we're all discussing pros and conshence why I'm trying to validate my point of highlighting Brazil over the other options.

As for the type of mongers we are: we call ourselves moderate Doms. We're not into pain, kinky stuff, or anal.

Thanks,

Nextdoorguy.[/QUOTE]How long will your trip be? If a week or less coming from North America, I'd choose MDE. If over a week, I'd go to Brazil. Brazil is a substantially longer plane ride. Or maybe you're good at sleeping on planes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3059667]For me the mongering is better in Sao Paulo than Rio de Janeiro but the city of Rio is so much better than SP that overall I prefer a visit to Rio than SP, as a matter of fact rather than any other city in the world.[/QUOTE]Same here. Rio is my favorite city in the World. No it's not as good for our hobby as it was 20 years ago (and definitely not as good as SP), but there's still plenty of action. And it's just got a great vibe and of course is spectacularly beautiful.

Curious to get some insight on what the rates are for the place right now?

By the way.

A few points. As for those centro terma hoars I mean.

Have you really done the centro prives?

I mean, there is nothing like a nia nacci pair of tits -- vagabundo is on nia nacci 5 for estrella, the current holder of the nia nacci crown, at emporio.

And brother.

There ain't nothing like a centro nia nacci who hs had 5 truck drivers blow loads inside of condoms maybe in nia nazzis holes, and then you, or me, the vagabundo gets all in there with the felipe ret goint and maybe some ganja (I have been clean for 3 months so I can go serve mother Switzerland to defend from who, I don't know, we haven't been invaded in 1000 years), and slide my swiss italian pepperoni all in that mocha pink bouncy sweetness or.

Fucking kira noir.

Like at a certain prive you can FUCK, like bend in half Kira mo fucking noir. She has been texting me.

You take those dental student girls with their low mileage 3 times a month tight little white princess pussies, and you let their juices do their thing on your mouth or whatever I mean I like that too. I fuck college girls from the border of Russia who look just like a Elsa jean elfen princess all blond and innocent who offer up their hot ass blond friends for the price of a ticket from viking land. And I hit that too.

I do. In mo'fucking Ipanema. Best sex date I have had in Ipanema is with a college girl elsa jean.

But what keeps old vagabundo pepperoni hard at night is kira noir. If you don't want some of that African DNA to spice up your lineage. Now vagabundo's lineage comes straight from a Israeli princess as spinozite Jewish as Naomi Russell, whom I knew back in porn valley, though not biblically. I was a simp then. But I came from those hips, a long line of those Israeli loins, like all haim sabato adjusting sights, and my grndfather adjusted sights and then smeared those russikis all over the outskirts of Moscow.

But man, kira noir. She still gets me hard. And she dominates and humiliates me. I could show you the road to kira noir, I could give you her personal number, but you are not worthy, well maybe you are. I mean bend kira noir's long slender negra legs all up over her shoulders and pile drive her kunt for like 30 minutes, 45 minutes, until she makes up stories about her father being on some life support in a hospital to escape the submission jiu jitsu pounding of her kunt, tight, young, 22-ish, sensitive. A good fuck.

Look. Cariocas fuck better than anyone. That's why Rio de Janeiro, one and done.

And the kira noir native negras make the gringa euro blond elsa jeans fuck better because the elsa jeans go down to all the street parades and they grab the swinging dicks of the local men. Which I am now. I announce myself as Felipe ret bengala when I come into a place of sex. In fact, it is my handle on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL]. Feliperetbengala.

That my friend is funny.

You can try to steal it. Just send the royalties to my Naomi Russell's body of ass shaking my friend.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3059407]After a disappointing visit at 4 x4 2 weeks ago I decided to give the place another chance. Wednesday evening 8 pm, semana santa party, plenty of girls, busy with customers.

Lots of older, overweight women, enormous fake bundas, some younger girls, but lots of baby damage, cheap-looking silicone boobs, ugly tattoos. Low-class garotas. Think the bottom 20% of casarao. Not a single one I would bang. I am done with that place and with centro at all. Will skip the idea of visiting the centro prives as well. After 4 x4 and mosaico I think I know what to expect there.

Next stop perola negra. Quality slightly higher than 4 x4 but not much. 20-30 girls, nothing of interest for me. Had an interesting conversation with a local brasilian who lives in barra. " Unfortunately we have nothing amazing like in SP" His words!!

Next stop Casablanca. The quality of the night improved by 2 points. Maybe 20 girls, at least 5 I would have taken. Took the number of a hot slim branca. Will meet her on the weekend.

So far the recommended modus operandi by the self-proclaimed rio experts was to go to centro fuck some favela chica for 150 are that gets load dumped inside by local truck drivers 5 times a day. (and pretend you just banged a scandallo top model for 10% the price and all others are just too stupid).

Well, If someone is on a budget and ok with low (-er) quality that might be the way. For those who do not mind to spend some cash, here is my approach:

The quality on MP / SA compared to SP is quite similar. Of course SP has more volume in SP out of the let's say 10 k profiles maybe 10% are hot and RJ out of the 2 k profiles also 10% are hot. That gives a pool of 200 girls, with new ones signing up every day. That pool will keep me busy for my 3 months stay for sure. So far the quality of my online-girls is the same here as in SP. These girls expect around 1 k for a date of a few hours that sometimes even leads to overnight.

During the day I take them to sel ipanema, evening boa praca leblon or isabel lounge at hilton amazing view from the rooftop. Most girls are students, crazy the amount of odontologia students here. Lighter skinned girls, no kids, well-dressed, manners. Not always available as some seem to be pretty focused with faculdade, but the good thing is they maybe do 2-3 dates per month only.

If only a few days in town I recommend to plan dates with several girls, as availability is not always guaranteed. If nothing works out which I doubt, there is always Casablanca, which I would call a small bomboa. Even when paying the saida fee, total would still be alright for those accustomed to sp pricing. Next door dolce vita is definitly also a good option. I always find something there. Just keep in mind this is not the 200 R scene.

Conclusion: There is actually quality to be found in rio, it is just not there where the local cost per fuck per minute heroes wants make members to believe. The girls here are not stupid and know their value, especially the hot ones. I am thinking to move to ipanema, better girls than copa on the beach and the civilians I saw in the area praca nossa senjora the paz insane. I should be more active there during the day.

After 5 weeks now I absolutely love rio and will plan another 3 months stay later this year. Do not want to do more than 183 days a year to avoid visa and tax issues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AtxNextDoorGuy;3059678]Not arguing here about how great and beautiful Brazil is, and if I offend anyone, my apologies.

The point I'm trying to explore is about VFM (value for money) and whether the long travel time is worth it for just mongering.

This is a group trip, so we're all discussing pros and conshence why I'm trying to validate my point of highlighting Brazil over the other options.

As for the type of mongers we are: we call ourselves moderate Doms. We're not into pain, kinky stuff, or anal.

Thanks,

Nextdoorguy.[/QUOTE]I think you now know what you want from Brazil.

If you want consistent VFM (Value for Money), Sao Paulo is your best bet.

Many of us think Rio is magical. We like the beach, the scenery, the block parties, etc.

I don't know how your group travels. They might just want to have sex and break for meals on a mongering adventure. However, there is something to be said for a group staying at a hotel or in apartment rentals near the beach. Everyone relaxes at the beach before heading out to hunt.

Rio isn't as "point & shoot" as SP for mongering, but it's still fairly easy. The VFM is there, but the consistent high quality is in SP.

[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;3059718]Curious to get some insight on what the rates are for the place right now?[/QUOTE]Sooooo many factors must be taken into account before an answer is given. I am absolutely fucking shocked at how much money some mongers are giving these girls for an hour. But there are many variables that can dictate how much you will have to spend. Contrary to popular belief on this board, not all mongers weigh 400 lbs, are ugly, smell bad and their mother dresses them funny! Some are in shape, dress nicely, speak the language and have no issue pulling women at home and abroad.

Some guys pay more, because they have to pay more. Some guys pay barely anything. At the end of the day, you need to assess your own appeal based on age and looks and then decide how much you should offer.

Bravo when are you back in Rio need a guide for the centro prives.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3060032]Sooooo many factors must be taken into account before an answer is given. I am absolutely fucking shocked at how much money some mongers are giving these girls for an hour. But there are many variables that can dictate how much you will have to spend. Contrary to popular belief on this board, not all mongers weigh 400 lbs, are ugly, smell bad and their mother dresses them funny! Some are in shape, dress nicely, speak the language and have no issue pulling women at home and abroad.

Some guys pay more, because they have to pay more. Some guys pay barely anything. At the end of the day, you need to assess your own appeal based on age and looks and then decide how much you should offer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;3060032]Sooooo many factors must be taken into account before an answer is given. I am absolutely fucking shocked at how much money some mongers are giving these girls for an hour. But there are many variables that can dictate how much you will have to spend. Contrary to popular belief on this board, not all mongers weigh 400 lbs, are ugly, smell bad and their mother dresses them funny! Some are in shape, dress nicely, speak the language and have no issue pulling women at home and abroad.

Some guys pay more, because they have to pay more. Some guys pay barely anything. At the end of the day, you need to assess your own appeal based on age and looks and then decide how much you should offer.[/QUOTE]Indeed not so easy to get a proper pricing structure for DV. I am in rio 6 weeks now and went usually 2 times each week. The girls are freelancers so no fixed pricing. Most customers are gringo tourists – you see lots of google translate interactions. The girls try to take advantage with high asking prices for sure. I would say the minimum for the hour is around 300. Overnight minimum 500. Later at night ST arrangement might lead to overnight as girls just want to sleep instead of going home. At 1 am when club gets busy price will be higher than before closing around 4-5 am.

Not all girls ask the same price though. Most nights I saw at least 1-2 girls significantly hotter than others. Let's say SP top boate quality. They will ask much more, starting at 2 k but usually accept 1 k overnight. I do speak fluent portuguese though– with google translate bargain it might be higher. These girls would cost 2-3 k in scandallo. Others call these prices insane, but you may like it or not that's how market works in brasil. Minimum wage comparison is not helpful either.

DV can be recommended for the value for money monger, but is also one of the very few choices in rio to find sometimes top quality similar to SP. Visit can be combined with Casablanca next door. For the experienced SP mongers with high standards these are in my optinion the only 2 club nightlife options in town.

Slightly adapted from 1967 Cream "Tales Of Brave Ulysses".

You thought the leaden winter.
Would bring you down forever.
But you rode upon a airline.
To the beauty of Rio.

And the colours of the sea.
Bind your eyes with trembling mermaids.
And you touch the distant beaches.
With tales of brave Mongers.
How their naked balls were fondled.
By the sirens sweetly smiling.
For the sparkling waves are calling you.
To kiss their honey lips.

And you see a girl's brown body.
Dancing through the turquoise.
And her footprints make you follow.
Where the sky loves the sea.
And when your fingers find her.
She drowns you in her body.
Her honey blowjob lips.
Carving deep blue ripples.
In the tissues of your mind.

Live well, be happy, enjoy life, youth, life and beauty.
You only live once.

Christo Redonto stands above Rio. He sees all, understands all, forgives all and has a slight smirk.
At the sight of sex starved men. Gasping with joy and happiness.

So here is a report about my trip in Rio. Not many details because English isn't my first language, so I am going to stick to the essentials.

I stayed in Copacabana and then in Barra the Tijuca. Each place had pro and cons.

Copa:

Pro:

In the middle of a lot of things, you have Centro not so far and Bara Tijuca also. It takes a similar amount of time to go in and out to different places by metro and taxi.

The beach, a huge beach.

Near major tourist spots if it's something you like to visit.

Terma MC is a sure value in Copa, so you can always go there first in the PM if you want to see the lineup.

Con:

The food. Sorry, but Copa is mostly American junk food or fried meat. There are some good places, but I had difficulty finding places I liked.

It's noisy and polluted.

It's dead empty late at night (but it seems to be like this in every neighborhood in Rio).

Bara the Tijuca:

Pro: The beach is great.

The food: It's a lot easier to find a good meal in Bara than in Copa.

Felt safer than Copa, even if being safe is an illusion in SA, I think.

Perola Negra is not far.

A metro station near (the last one on the line, I think).

Con: Everything is really far away, if you don't like Perola Negra, you are done.

I tried a few different places; I can remember all of them. Sometimes it's only an address, and they all look the same, and I noted nothing, so my memory is failing me on the details.

4 x4: If I had only 1 place to go in Rio, it would be this place. I find at least 2-3 girls I want to fuck each time I've been there. It's opening into the afternoon, and you can find girls on the opening. You can chill inside if you want; the staff is cool. The prices are excellent. I hope they will change nothing in this place. It was my safe value.

Perola Negra: I saw really cute girls there, but sadly the ratio of girls vs. Dudes was bad. Each time I've been there, it was like 3 to 5 dudes for 1 girl. I understand girls are there to sell drinks, and it's like this everywhere, so they chill longer with groups who are buying lots of drinks. But the big problem in this place was that girls were chilling with the staff. I saw so much social interaction between girls and the staff; it was frustrating. I can wait and chill when girls I want are with other clients; it's ok. Most of the time they are chilling a bit to sell some drink, and I can catch them later, but seeing a girl chilling forever with a waiter or a doorman. Or even looking at their phone without even looking at the customer is frustrating. I know I can walk to talk to the girls, but it is bugging me a lot. If the girl is lazy in the bar, is she going to be in the bed too? It gave me a bad mood. It's not again the place; there are lots of cute girls there, so go and take a look, but if they have something to improve, it's 3 things: a smoking area (do not mix smokers and non-smokers); girls must let their phones in their pockets when they are not busy and must chill with the customer, not the staff; and more girls. The place is big, so it already looks empty, and it's worse when there are not enough girls.

Solarium: The place is okay; I've seen some really cute girls there. The big con is about the place where it is. I think there is no metro station near, so you have to use a bus or taxi, and it's a big problem because of Rio traffic.

Paris: I've been there once; I will never go back there again. All the girls were fugly, and there was a horrible gilf totally intoxicated who harassed me like the whole hour to go with me. I told her I was not interested like 20 times, and she kept coming back. She offered me every sexual thing that can be found in the Kama Sutra in the most explicit way, but she was fugly with a huge belly. I regretted the taxi ride; it was a horrible experience.

Prive Centro: Definitely the best value for a quick and cheap fuck, but it's difficult to say where because it depends on the lineup. I've been a few times, but after a few days I fucked all the girls who were interesting, so after that it's better to note who you like and book in advance to avoid the deception.

Freelance: I guessed some from Rio's accompaniment; it was all a big deception, and I also had the feeling I was about to be scammed seriously once. The girl was horrible, nothing like the bimbo in the picture, and she aggressively pulled me by the arm when I tried to leave; it was really awkward. I tried other websites, but the biggest problem is that lots of the girls, almost all the ones I was interested in meeting, are fishing. They ask an insane amount of money, and I don't want to risk having to fight a Brazilian pimp because I refused to bring to my room a girl who is using a picture of herself when she was 18 and who is now 40. Even on the most popular escort websites, here are tons of girls who aren't updating their pictures; some are rolling openly with dated pictures from 2019. In this domain it makes no sense; these girls can rarely stay in shape more than 1-2 years when they are selling their ass. Going from ghetto famine to a total abuse of booze and restaurants every day for multiple years in a row is rarely without consequence for the ladies. The real thing is that Rio Prive and Terma offer services and prices that can be difficult to be topped by a random girl on the web I've never seen before. If I were going to Rio regularly, I would definitely collect all the phone numbers of the best girls I fucked with to call them to my place when I need them, but on a short trip I prefer the variety and the quantity, and to have the top quality, I found my sweet spot in Terma and Prive.

In Rio, take the metro; it's not expensive, and I didn't feel in danger at any time. In the daytime there are lots of people and security guards in place, and there is air conditioning inside. I see no reason to fight rio traffic jams if you can use the metro instead.

From my current experience, if I go back to Rio someday, I would probably choose to stay in Centro. The place is dead empty at night, but in the daytime it's where things are happening for the pay-to-play.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3060498] but on a short trip I prefer the variety and the quantity, and to have the top quality, I found my sweet spot in Terma and Prive.

From my current experience, if I go back to Rio someday, I would probably choose to stay in Centro. The place is dead empty at night, but in the daytime it's where things are happening for the pay-to-play.[/QUOTE]Very nice report and you write better than most of English people.

The Week in Baseball. Creampied Kira Noir, Anne Amari Pernoite, prive regular, non pro Elsa jean.

Vagabundo writes on Thursday, having done 100 minutes of muay thai, and having fucked Kira Noir for 25 minutes with a creampie at Motel Eden in Tijuca at 11 h. I had not seen her for a year. She had a kid, which she said she did in a call so she was not lying, sadly, as she is a nice girl and the father is not in the picture, aside from the sagging tits, and see-section scar. And she smokes. The curious can hit me up by PM and I will for the price of a iced coffee in person send along her deets. She is still fuckable. I mean, she is 21-ish. I told her I would try to get her a job in informatica, as one of her plusses is that she is always on zap. I have the connections with diplomats, corporate types, university professors to hook her up. There is a higher GINI index of wealth inequality in Brazil than in any country than the US. Cost per fuck per minute was thus like 300 r for her, 220 r for 4 hours in the hidro suite in Eden, near her prive (hint), for like 520 r /25. I made her cum in missionary with my solid USB Vibe which JimmyBoy brought in for me almost 2 years ago. Glad to send out my Amazon history for the curious.

I fucked a regular in the prive for 250 r /40 for a CPFPM of 6 ish. She was pissed I was talking to other girls in the same prive. She is a solid fuck regularly.

Anne Amari came over pernoite for 300 r. We only fuck for like 5 minutes at night and in the morning, but she stays over, and I respect her. She is not a prostitute, as she now has a legit job at a glasses place. So, I helped get her out of that line of work, and I actually admire her, she is my hero. She has character. She still might die of violence, disease, poverty. She has said she wants to have a family, and actually, that might be a good option, though not on the regular George Shultz advice of marrying rich. She is of course black, and racism is worse in Brazil than anywhere, but I am combative and I guess I like a challenge. Landing a rich chick is a level of difficulty especially in Brazil. I am such an asshole, I was going to give Anne Amari a burner laptop that I had reformatted, but she demanded her usual 300 r plus uber. It is always uber, isn't it? Jesus fucking christ, I so hate that these girls have become entitled to uber. That has fucking blown up my time management to the detriment of my rich world business so fucking much, not to mention the fact that all these poor world non English speaking (notice a pattern? Rich world is English speaking, poor world is non English speaking. For the most part, the exceptions being the BRICS people who learn English, and they are being bred to be rich).

But there are actual non pro beautiful women who want what Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, SWISS NAVY (ret) has to offer, so stay tuned sports fans. I laid out what I have to offer to a college girl that I hooked up with when she was here, then flew her out for a few weeks with her girlfriend who is into group sex in January, and now she is talking about coming out to Rio to wife me up or at least live on the beach with me. So, that doesn't suck. You assholes will miss me, right?

Good report, and it is well written, but regarding Barra.

Prisma terapias has a Barra address, and with the metro, you are in easy access to all the other areas. Even to the end of the metro line is just an hour. The safety in Barra is worth it.

Copa sucks. For any long term resident of Rio.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3060498]So here is a report about my trip in Rio. Not many details because English isn't my first language, so I am going to stick to the essentials.

I stayed in Copacabana and then in Barra the Tijuca. Each place had pro and cons.

Copa:

Pro:

In the middle of a lot of things, you have Centro not so far and Bara Tijuca also. It takes a similar amount of time to go in and out to different places by metro and taxi.

The beach, a huge beach..[/QUOTE]

I finally did my first trip to Brazil starting in Rio followed by Sao Paulo with a short break in Iguazu Falls in between. I'll post a separate report on Sao Paulo.

Flight & Arrival.

Air Canada has a direct flight from Toronto to Rio but only for the winter season so I took advantage of one of their final flights for their season. Unfortunately I got stuck in a middle seat for this ten hour flight so I'm not sure I even got any sleep at all. So upon arrival and getting through immigration which was actually a pretty smooth process, I took an Uber to my Airbnb in the Copacabana area just about two blocks inland from the beach's Posto 6. As predicted, the Uber did get stuck in Rio's infamous traffic but I arrived about 40 minutes later on a Friday.

My Airbnb was a perfect location as it was pretty well in between Copacabana and Ipanema with two grocery stores called Zona Sul and several reasonably priced restaurants within 1-2 blocks including three just downstairs outside the building where my unit was. The closest Metro station was in Ipanema only about 5-7 minutes walk away which turned out to be very useful as I used Uber only the one time upon arrival and utilized the Metro for the rest of my stay to get around. The immediate area was also very safe walking day and night.

I didn't care about whether my Airbnb was guest friendly or not since for my first Rio trip, I was going to just tour the prives and termas to just session on site rather than bring anyone back. This might have been just as well because my building used a system where the security staff always opened the main entrance doors rather than me so I wouldn't have been able to sneak any girls through. My unit itself was rather worn down and I killed roaches daily in the kitchen area so I wouldn't have been comfortable to bring anyone back to that unit anyway.

My original plan was to hit one of the prives in Copacabana but since I was too tired from my overnight flight I decided to postpone my mongering until the next day after getting a proper night's sleep. So I just stocked up on some groceries and planned my tourist sightseeing plans based on the local weather forecast.

Tourist Attractions & Beach Life.

The two main tourist attractions being Christ the Redeemer and Sugarloaf Mountain are of course a must visit for any first time visitor to Rio and I was advised to visit them early in the morning to avoid the craziest tourist crowds. I decided to use my weekend mornings for these two attractions separately so I can visit each first thing in the morning.

To speed things up, I also bought tickets in advance for both online on my arrival day after I planned my weekend. For Christ the Redeemer, instead of taking its train to go up, I decided on a faster way since the train didn't look all that interesting to me and I wanted to get up to the statue as fast as I can to get the lowest weekend crowds. So I used the official vans instead and met them at Praca do Lido which was at the other end of Copacabana right on the main beach road. I booked my van for the 8 am pickup and walked a pleasant 30 minutes from my Airbnb along the beach to the van first thing in the morning. The official van took me to the visitor centre for Christ the Redeemer and from there I had to take another van up to get to the statue which was fairly crowded already by the time I got there. But I did my tourist thing and was ready to take the vans back down. The official van took my back to Copacabana where I was not far from the prives there. More on this later.

For Sunday morning I took the Metro to Botafogo and walked 30 minutes to Sugarloaf Mountain which was the other main big tourist attraction. I also had advance ticket for the cable car at 9 am. Beautiful views as impressive as the ones at Christ the Redeemer but from another perspective and like the first attraction on Saturday, I was already done by mid morning.

By the time I got back to Ipanema by Metro, it was already getting a bit too hot for me outside so I explored the Sunday market just outside of the Metro station for a bit then retreated back to my Airbnb. Rio's prives and termas do not open on Sundays so it would be a mongering rest day.

Rio's main thing to my observation is the beach life and weekends especially were super crowded at both Copacabana and Ipanema as they were jammed pack with locals like sardines although the smaller beaches near Sugarloaf Mountain were certainly much less crowded. I saw most of the local women here wear the legendary string bikinis I call 'butt floss' which does show that their culture is indeed quite different from the rest of the world. Unfortunately it was not just the hot women who wear these as local women of all sizes and ages on the beach seem to wear these. I can see that the locals live for the beach here.

For me, I'm not a beach person and much of the daytime is just to hot for me anyway. The ocean in contrast is pretty darn cold here so although there were surfers and some swimmers, this was not really an area for too much swimming out in the ocean. I did find the beach gym affectionately known as 'Flintstones Gym' since the weights were made of stone and I did end up working out here a few times during my stay early in the morning. For the Sunday I did plan to see the sunset near here at the far end of Ipanema close to where it joins Copacabana but it was so crowded that I ended up leaving.

For the next few weekdays, I took the Metro right after rush hour into Centro to check out other tourist attractions including Selaron Steps, Portuguese Reading Room, the big conical cathedral, Lapa Arches and took the tram up to Santa Teresa and had one of the best coffees I've ever had. All of these sights were fast and could be walked to from the Metro.

Personally I think all of the above tourist attractions were worth visiting but maybe only just once but they can all be quickly covered. For the attactions in centro, I planned it so I did the touristy things first in the morning and then hit the prives when they opened up midday.

The Mongering Tour. Prives.

Okay so this is probably the main feedback you all were waiting for so I'll get to it. My first hit since I missed it on my Friday arrival day, was in Copacabana right after I got back from Christ the Redeemer. I was to check out Eden Spa first but as soon as I got to the office building where it was located, an tout who spoke English intercepted me and took my up. But instead of taking me to Eden Spa at #401, he ended up taking me to Eden Spa's sister location one floor below at #302. There, a very friendly young lady receptionist brought me into a room for the presentation of the available girls. I was there around 1 pm on the Saturday and only two girls come through one at a time and kissed me on both cheeks while introducing themselves. To my surprise, both were quite doable for me and I chose one of them for 30 minutes at 190 are. I don't know if this was an inflated rate or not due to the tout bringing me in.

At age 65, I'm a one shot per day guy so I wasn't going to go back out to check out the termas even on the Saturday night since I got my shot at this prive in Copa which was called Massage 583 - if you get on Eden Spa's website, you'll see the info for both Eden and this sister location on the same webpage.

The next mongering session for me since it was just tourist stuff on the Sunday, would be in centro after I visit the tourist sights in centro. From the conical cathedral, it was just a short walk to the office building where Bel Prazer is located. I took the elevator to the top floor and walked up one more to their floor. Prives in Rio are all located in office buildings. After getting buzzed into Bel Prazer, I waited in a room for the girls presentation. There was about five girls on Monday at about noon and they were all way too huge for my liking so I passed on Bel Prazer.

Next stop was Dudas up the street in another office building. This building was a bit of a pain in the ass to access because their elevator banks had security turnstiles and I had to register at the security desk with my ID. I was sort of prepared for this in advance so I brought an old expired driver license which did the job. I had to tell them the office number I was visiting which was Dudas. When I got up to Dudas, they had about four girls and one of them was doable. But when asked for rates, the receptionist quoted me 300 are for 20 minutes and 600 are for 40 minutes. Now I don't know if I was being quoted a tourist rate (since I'm Asian) but these rates seemed way out of line for a Rio prive so I passed.

There was another prive in the same building called Onix (and sometimes Julia) ten floors down so I took the stairs down. After getting buzzed into Onix, I got a presentation of about seven girls and two were doable. They quoted 150 are for 30 minutes and 180 are for an hour in a small room and 210 are for an hour in a bigger room. The smaller room was fine but like at the Copa prive, showers were not ensuite in these rooms. I ended up sessioning with one of the girls I liked here at Onix.

I took the elevator back down to the lobby floor and couldn't get past the turnstile. I guess this was a different elevator bank which I wasn't officially registered for which was really stupid so I just decided to go under the turnstile to get out. So again, this office building was a real pain in my opinion but at least I got in my second mongering session, again during daytime hours.

For my next session, I found myself back in Copa so wanted to check out the two other prives there that I didn't hit yet so I went to Delioriental first. This was on the Tuesday about midday and only three girls were available, two huge and one slim one but not with facial features I liked. So passed on them. Next stop was to finally make it to Eden Spa and this time no tout was on the street so I went directly up. After getting buzzed into Eden, I was met by a young black guy who was the receptionist and the presentation of about seven girls was not bad. There were 2-3 girls I liked and ended up choosing one and the rate I was quoted was 190 are for 30 minutes. So looks like I didn't get any inflated rate at their sister location when the tout brought me up the other day as it was the same 190 are rate.

Termas.

I will mention that when I was still in the planning stages for my first trip to Rio, I was originally going to visit all four main termas. Solarium, Centaurus, 4 X4 and Monte Carlo. Then later on I thought maybe I'll do half prives and half termas especially since Centaurus was only five minutes from my Airbnb and Monte Carlo would be a good backup plan if the Copa prives didn't produce for me. But the more I thought about it, the more I thought these termas would essentially get me similar sessions with girls of similar quality but at significantly inflated rates.

For my final full day in Rio which was a Wednesday, I decided to go to 4 x4 at about 3 pm after having lunch up in Santa Teresa. Reception said it was a 60 are entry but payment was done upon leaving. I got changed into a thin white robe and there were about 8 girls in bikinis in the main bar room plus a few other dudes in their robes. Most of the girls at that time were on the large side for me but one tiny spinner hit me up and convinced me to take her as she said she was the only slim one there that afternoon. She suggested at least an hour with her which I accepted and she showed me the posted rate of 500 are in a simple room. There were many other rates for different durations and types of rooms but I took this 500 are one.

I liked the setup at 4 x4 as it reminded me of the FKK clubs in Germany where I get to see all the girls at once instead of the one at a time presentations at the prives. However, this session was not as good as some of the sessions I had at the Rio prives but it was a small sample size. So I would still come back to 4 x4 if I decided to return to Rio especially if I came back with fellow mongers since these termas setups would be much better for hanging out compared to the prives which really have no space for this.

Since I sessioned at 4 x4 before 6 pm, the 60 are entry fee was waived so I just had to pay for my drinks for me and the girl on top of the session fee. By the time I left 4 x4, it was about 6:30 pm but still lots of locals milling about in centro and still daylight so I decided to take the Metro back instead of Uber and it was fine.

As for the freelancer scene at Mabs and Dolte Vita, I didn't bother since my accommodations was a no go for guests.

Departure Day.

On my departure day, I had just enough time in the morning to get in one last workout early in the morning at the Flintstones gym. I also did a longer morning walk all along Ipanema beach out to Leblon and back and it was quite pleasant early in the morning with the fitness and active crowd out doing various activities including some sort of volleyball that allowed using body and legs, beach pickleball, yoga, surfing, jogging, biking and even a spin bike class on the beach. I enjoyed these mornings out on the beach more than the party crowd that came later during the daytime hours.

To get to the airport, I had different options. Too bad Rio doesn't have a direct train or Metro to the airport but I decided to try another cheap way rather than taking the Uber. I took the Metro to a station that starts with Vincente and there was a BRT bus station with bus service to the airport. For the 5 are Metro plus 10 are BRT bus fare, this would be an unbeatable rate to the airport. But the BRT station was not well marked and only after asking transit staff did I find the right bus gate. And this BRT bus was jammed with local for a ride that took quite some time to get to the airport. By the time I arrived to the airport, I decided never to use this route again despite the dirt cheap fares.

Overall Impressions Of Rio.

So for my overall impressions of Rio, I enjoyed my first trip there. To me, the big things in Rio are the beautiful nature scenery which is breathtaking and the beach culture. The tourist attractions are a must do for any first time visitor but worth doing only once in my opinion. For me, I'm not a beach person so I wouldn't return to Rio for that and if I did, I would opt for accommodations that had a beach view balcony so at least I'll have nice scenery to look at during my down time.

The city of Rio itself is a bit dirty in my view but the safety-danger issue is way overblown in my opinion. I never went to Centro on weekends nor after sundown. And at night, I pretty well walked around a few blocks radius of my location in between Copa and Ipanema and was fine. I never felt it was too sketchy where I was. Only when it was crowded like in Centro during the daytime and at the beach when it was prime hours with locals, I just kept my phone in my pocket with my hand inside it during the walks to reduce chances of pickpocketing and I was fine.

If I ever do return to Rio again, it would only be for the mongering since I already did the tourist attractions I wanted to visit. So I would have to decide whether I would get bored during my down time in between sessions and again for me, I'm a one session per day guy so there would be lots of down time. I would also have to compare the mongering scene here with Sao Paulo too which I'll report on in a separate post.

For my mongering, I'll travel to Asia once per year for a month and to Latin America. After two trips to Colombia and a past trips to Cuba, Tijuana, San Jose Costa Rica, Ste Maarten, El Salvador and Dominican Republic, I'll have some deciding to do on how Brazil stacks up with these other Latin American destinations. I know that many guys claim Brazilian girls are the best but for me, it's not all a clear win for the Brazilians yet. There were a few girls from my Brazil trip (in both Rio and SP) I would explore repeating with and spending extended time with but I would have to get a comfortable guest friendly place first and improve my Portuguese too. I'm further ahead on my Spanish due to multiple trips to Colombia and other Spanish speaking mongering destinations.

With my initial comparisons of girls between Brazil and Colombia, I'll say that facially the Colombians are more glamorous and in higher numbers. Brazilians are more natural looking and with much less plastic surgery too. I think the Brazilians might be more GFE too but as for their lovemaking reputation, it might not be a huge factor for me since this in my mind translates to PSE which I'm not into. Girls who are more aggressive and wild in bed actually don't do it for me as I prefer just GFE which the girls in Rio for the most part, did provide.

With Brazilian girls which are suppose to be the most sexual than any others in the world, I wanted to try nuru massage in Brazil since I loved this in Asia. I didn't get the chance to try nuru here in Rio but did in Sao Paulo.

It's too early for me to declare any clear winners. Scenes also change when Colombia became a bit risky with the odd girls drugging guys and lost of some mongering friendly venues in Medellin as well as rates. As a mongering destination, Rio is definitely superior to Toronto as far as both rates as well as the ability to see and meet the girls in person before committing to any session which is sadly not possible in Toronto nor Montreal.

In any case, I hope this review was helpful especially for first time visitors to Rio. I had asked many questions about Rio in the past and said I would deliver my contribution after my trip. I hope I delivered with some useful points and feedback on Rio here.

I did visit Sao Paulo too since I wanted to not only do a direct comparison with Rio but there's a regular direct return flight for me back to Toronto. I also spent three days in Foz Do Iguazu just to do the falls there and did not bother with any mongering there as I used it as a short break in between. I'll get my SP report out very soon.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3060527]I didn't care about whether my Airbnb was guest friendly or not since for my first Rio trip, I was going to just tour the prives and termas to just session on site rather than bring anyone back. This might have been just as well because my building used a system where the security staff always opened the main entrance doors rather than me so I wouldn't have been able to sneak any girls through.[/QUOTE]All buildings have that setup. You do not have to sneak.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3060527]Rio's main thing to my observation is the beach life and weekends especially were super crowded at both Copacabana and Ipanema as they were jammed pack with locals like sardines although the smaller beaches near Sugarloaf Mountain were certainly much less crowded. I saw most of the local women here wear the legendary string bikinis I call 'butt floss' which does show that their culture is indeed quite different from the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]They pretty much call it the same thing: fio dental (dental floss). And the nut hugging speedo that the guys wear is called a sunga.

My Buddha, has it really been 5 years since I touched down in RJ for the 1st time? (And 4 years since my last visit to that RJ?) KKK! Time flies.

Good post Exoticspirit. I am glad you had a good time. My favorite RJ Praia is that stretch of Barra the Tijuca Beach just after the Hyatt that is a nature preserve. It is very beautiful, but the water is cold and rough 9 months of the year. Guys who are expecting RJ to be some tropical beach resort town should probably go to Cartagena or Santa Marta.

Anyway, here are some beach shots from my 1st and 2nd visit.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3060527]I finally did my first trip to Brazil starting in Rio followed by Sao Paulo with a short break in Iguazu Falls in between. I'll post a separate report on Sao Paulo


The Mongering Tour. Prives.

Termas.

For my final full day in Rio which was a Wednesday, I decided to go to 4 x4 at about 3 pm after having lunch up in Santa Teresa. Reception said it was a 60 are entry but payment was done upon leaving. I got changed into a thin white robe and there were about 8 girls in bikinis in the main bar room plus a few other dudes in their robes.

I liked the setup at 4 x4 as it reminded me of the FKK clubs in Germany where I get to see all the girls at once instead of the one at a time presentations at the prives. However, this session was not as good as some of the sessions I had at the Rio prives but it was a small sample size. So I would still come back to 4 x4 if I decided to return to Rio especially if I came back with fellow mongers since th

So for my overall impressions of Rio, I enjoyed my first trip there. To me, the big things in Rio are the beautiful nature scenery which is breathtaking and the beach culture. The tourist attractions are a must do for any first time visitor but worth doing only once in my opinion. For me, I'm not a beach person so I wouldn't return to Rio for that and if I did, I would opt for accommodations that had a beach view balcony so at least I'll have nice scenery to look at during my down time.

.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comprehensive review. I do feel like your plan of action didn't allow you to best experience our hobby in Rio. First, the termas are generally way better than the prives. It would have been nice to check out Monte Carlo / Solarium / Centaurus and gone to back to 4 x4 another day / night. There is an ebb and a flow and cast can change a lot in short time. Only see 8 girls at 4x4 happens, but seeing 30-40 also happens.

As far as prives, weekdays are way better than weekends (if they're even open). Eden spa and the other place in the same building frequently have a very nice lineup during the week.

Anyway, it's good you were able to hit the main tourists spots which many mongers don't bother with.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3060677]My Buddha, has it really been 5 years since I touched down in RJ for the 1st time? (And 4 years since my last visit to that RJ?) KKK! Time flies.

Good post Exoticspirit. I am glad you had a good time. My favorite RJ Praia is that stretch of Barra the Tijuca Beach just after the Hyatt that is a nature preserve. It is very beautiful, but the water is cold and rough 9 months of the year. Guys who are expecting RJ to be some tropical beach resort town should probably go to Cartagena or Santa Marta.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Rio is not some tropical beach resort town?

You have to be careful this could mean different things to different gents here.

I wouldn't go to Rio with the purpose of enjoying the water.

The beaches in Rio are urban spectacles. That means many tanned, fit Brasileiras in tiny bikinis.

As far as Rio as a tropical destination, I often describe Rio as the natural beauty of Hawaii dropped on San Francisco amply sprinkled with beautiful, sexy Brasileiras.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3060700] I wouldn't go to Rio with the purpose of enjoying the water.

The beaches in Rio are urban spectacles. That means many tanned, fit Brasileiras in tiny bikinis.

As far as Rio as a tropical destination, I often describe Rio as the natural beauty of Hawaii dropped on San Francisco amply sprinkled with beautiful, sexy Brasileiras.[/QUOTE]This ia a very colorful and apt description of RJ. I hadn't thought of it exactly that way before, but it fits. It kind of reminds me of Anthony Bourdain's infamous description of SP as feeling like "LA throwing up on New York." KKK.

I am into tropical beaches and I have been to a lot of beautiful ones in the Caribbean, Mexico, Central & South America and SE Asia. One major item on my hit list is to set aside a month or two and drive up the Brazilian coast stopping wherever and whenever I feel like it.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3060700]Hmmm. Rio is not some tropical beach resort town?

You have to be careful this could mean different things to different gents here.

I wouldn't go to Rio with the purpose of enjoying the water.

The beaches in Rio are urban spectacles. That means many tanned, fit Brasileiras in tiny bikinis.

As far as Rio as a tropical destination, I often describe Rio as the natural beauty of Hawaii dropped on San Francisco amply sprinkled with beautiful, sexy Brasileiras.[/QUOTE]When I was at Sugarloaf Mountain, I noticed a small beach right next to it and there was a group of scuba divers gearing up. I talked to one of them and he said they shore dive there even though the water is cold (around 15-16 C). So if I want, there is local diving for me if I want to for a next trip to Rio as this water temp would be very similar to our summer diving in Canada. Now I'm not sure what they will be able to see in their waters to make it worthwhile or not.

As far as the beaches, I actually enjoyed being along the Ipanema beach first thing in the morning between 7 am and 8:30 am when the fitness and active locals were out but still lots of room on the beach and boardwalk. This seemed like a completely different crowd compared to the later hours of the day, especially on weekends when the beaches are way too crowded for my liking.

I'm also a Diver (PADI). Anyone else interested let me know, it might be a good thing to do. Thanks for the detailed reports, as you promised. Now you're a carioca do fake!

See the book, Pirate Divers by Kurson.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3060808]When I was at Sugarloaf Mountain, I noticed a small beach right next to it and there was a group of scuba divers gearing up. I talked to one of them and he said they shore dive there even though the water is cold (around 15-16 C). So if I want, there is local diving for me if I want to for a next trip to Rio as this water temp would be very similar to our summer diving in Canada. Now I'm not sure what they will be able to see in their waters to make it worthwhile or not.

As far as the beaches, I actually enjoyed being along the Ipanema beach first thing in the morning between 7 am and 8:30 am when the fitness and active locals were out but still lots of room on the beach and boardwalk. This seemed like a completely different crowd compared to the later hours of the day, especially on weekends when the beaches are way too crowded for my liking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3060766]It kind of reminds me of Anthony Bourdain's infamous description of SP as feeling like "LA throwing up on New York." KKK.[/QUOTE]He may have said it, but he did not come up with it. The only time I have heard this saying, besides you writing it, was from my professor when I was in grad school in Brazil in 2003.

I thought that I would add one more thing that may help new visitors to Rio when it comes to eating. The comida por quilo restaurants. These are buffets which charge you based on the weight of the plate of food you end up taking and they are dirt cheap. There was one just at the corner from my Airbnb in Copacabana and a few along the main commercial road a block inland from the beach. Also during one of the days I was in Centro after my prive session at Onix, I wanted to check out Confeitaria Colombo which is suppose to be one of the most beautiful cafes in the world. I got there at about 1:45 pm when I thought the lunch rush was over but there was still a huge lineup in the street just to get in. So I abandoned that visit and walked a block away to find a comida por quilo eatery where I had my late lunch and the cost was even cheaper than the one in Copacabana.

Don't expect the food at these to be Michelin star quality but it is okay by my dining standards and because the cost is dirt cheap, you will see a lot of locals there. The one bad thing about these comida por quilo places is that they operate only during the daytime hours so I wasn't able to find any for the dinner hours. I did find a comida por quilo when I was in Foz do Iguazu after my stay in Rio but didn't find any in the immediate area where I was staying in Sao Paulo but I'm sure they exist there too as this seems to be a popular concept in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3060996] Also during one of the days I was in Centro after my prive session at Onix, I wanted to check out Confeitaria Colombo which is suppose to be one of the most beautiful cafes in the world. I got there at about 1:45 pm when I thought the lunch rush was over but there was still a huge lineup in the street just to get in. .[/QUOTE]Confeitaria Colombo is a nice place to go to for a daytime date with a civilian. (Unfortunately, the lines to get in can be super long). The food itself is just average, nothing to write home about, but the interior is really nice, and it has a cool atmosphere for a relatively cheap date.

Anyone has an experience with this type of parties? Swedish Gringo and couple of other channels on YouTube have some videos.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3059329]
Ok, go with this girl for an hour.

15 minutes for her to shower.

9 minutes for her to put a condom on your dick.
[/QUOTE]Bel Prazer-15 minutes for her to shower, 5-7 minutes for her to put a condom on a dick.

Onix-10 minutes for her to shower, 2-3 minutes for her to put a condom on a dick.

I would probably complain to the management if remaining time would not be enough for me.

No such problem in Edem or Delirio.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3058808]Nuru Mtua R$395 (1 h)+Sala Master R$125 (1 h)+Final Surpresa (probably HJ) R$125=R$645 plus whatever they ask for FS.[/QUOTE]They did not charge me for Final Surpresa whatever it means. Room is nice, shower in the room. Overall good service. Received an offer of R$1,000 for 90 minutes all holes included service.

Plus cost of a room and massage. Declined, cost of over US $ 300 is absurd. House pays to garota about R$150-200, so why she has an audacity to ask for R$1,000 is beyond my understanding.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3061027]Anyone has an experience with this type of parties? Swedish Gringo and couple of other channels on YouTube have some videos.[/QUOTE]Quickest way to get in trouble. Ask Kenny from back in the day.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3061003]Confeitaria Colombo is a nice place to go to for a daytime date with a civilian. (Unfortunately, the lines to get in can be super long). The food itself is just average, nothing to write home about, but the interior is really nice, and it has a cool atmosphere for a relatively cheap date.[/QUOTE]That's a perfect description of CC. A beautiful place with mediocre food. I go there every time I'm in town, just for coffee and desert.

Cais do oriente and hops bar. Ganja brownies there. Don't fuck up your breathing for muay thai. Have her # pm me.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3061003]Confeitaria Colombo is a nice place to go to for a daytime date with a civilian. (Unfortunately, the lines to get in can be super long). The food itself is just average, nothing to write home about, but the interior is really nice, and it has a cool atmosphere for a relatively cheap date.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3060996]I thought that I would add one more thing that may help new visitors to Rio when it comes to eating. The comida por quilo restaurants. These are buffets which charge you based on the weight of the plate of food you end up taking and they are dirt cheap. There was one just at the corner from my Airbnb in Copacabana and a few along the main commercial road a block inland from the beach. Also during one of the days I was in Centro after my prive session at Onix, I wanted to check out Confeitaria Colombo which is suppose to be one of the most beautiful cafes in the world. I got there at about 1:45 pm when I thought the lunch rush was over but there was still a huge lineup in the street just to get in. So I abandoned that visit and walked a block away to find a comida por quilo eatery where I had my late lunch and the cost was even cheaper than the one in Copacabana.

Don't expect the food at these to be Michelin star quality but it is okay by my dining standards and because the cost is dirt cheap, you will see a lot of locals there. The one bad thing about these comida por quilo places is that they operate only during the daytime hours so I wasn't able to find any for the dinner hours. I did find a comida por quilo when I was in Foz do Iguazu after my stay in Rio but didn't find any in the immediate area where I was staying in Sao Paulo but I'm sure they exist there too as this seems to be a popular concept in Brazil.[/QUOTE]The quilo restaurants are pretty good for a quick lunch. There are several in copacabana and some do all day quilo buffet like siqueira grill or fagulha. I like fagulha. They got a churrasco station and cut the picanha right from the skewer. Of course not as posh as churrasceria palace and I would not take a date there, but for a quick healthy lunch (beef, vergetables, rice, potato, salad etc.) in the 60-100 R range more than ok. Compared to other latin countries like argentina with very limited good almoco options or colombia with the menu del dia, that quickly gets boring (mostly beef or chicken with platano and rice) brazil and also rio are way better. I am still discovering new places every day.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3061027]Anyone has an experience with this type of parties? Swedish Gringo and couple of other channels on YouTube have some videos.[/QUOTE]I looked at his videos on YouTube and it's most likely a youth party boat that you can sign up for at any number of hostels. I did a few of those back in the day when I was a backpacker (mid 2000's). Note that those are civilians and not working girls, but if you're younger and have some game it shouldn't be hard to find girls to hook up with (I know I did back then!

On the other hand, if you want to rent a nice boat with a couple crew members you can do so for $200-$500/ day depending on boat. It's something fun to do and split with friends. You'd need to pay girls on top of that.

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[QUOTE=Safado007;3061206]The quilo restaurants are pretty good for a quick lunch. There are several in copacabana and some do all day quilo buffet like siqueira grill or fagulha. I like fagulha. They got a churrasco station and cut the picanha right from the skewer. Of course not as posh as churrasceria palace and I would not take a date there, but for a quick healthy lunch (beef, vergetables, rice, potato, salad etc.) in the 60-100 R range more than ok. Compared to other latin countries like argentina with very limited good almoco options or colombia with the menu del dia, that quickly gets boring (mostly beef or chicken with platano and rice) brazil and also rio are way better. I am still discovering new places every day.[/QUOTE]I'll have to check out these quilo restos that operate on that basis longer the next time I'm in Rio as I would have like to pick my own food rather than get stuck with whatever standard sit down restos serve. I find that for many dishes the restos there don't have much vegetables and go heavy on the rice and fries.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3061492]I find that for many dishes the restos there don't have much vegetables and go heavy on the rice and fries.[/QUOTE]That is all of Latin America.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3061517]That is all of Latin America.[/QUOTE]Except for Argentina and Uruguay, steaks and bread LOL.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3061532]Except for Argentina and Uruguay, steaks and bread LOL.[/QUOTE]Peru has a ton of veg w their food (Lima is considered top 5 in the world cuisine wise). Some dishes are with rice and fries here but I am a New Yorker living in Lima for 2 years now and still not tired of the fries because they are real potatoes haha.

[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;3061544]Peru has a ton of veg w their food (Lima is considered top 5 in the world cuisine wise). Some dishes are with rice and fries here but I am a New Yorker living in Lima for 2 years now and still not tired of the fries because they are real potatoes haha.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree that Peru was perhaps the exception in my Latin American travels so far with better than expected cuisine not only in Lima but when I was in the Machu Picchu area eating at the local markets. In Rio, the fish dishes weren't bad which was expected since so close to the sea but they didn't have to hammer me with both fries AND rice on the same order.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3061590]Yes I agree that Peru was perhaps the exception in my Latin American travels so far with better than expected cuisine not only in Lima but when I was in the Machu Picchu area eating at the local markets. In Rio, the fish dishes weren't bad which was expected since so close to the sea but they didn't have to hammer me with both fries AND rice on the same order.[/QUOTE]The very first time I went to Brazil, it was to Rio for 10 days (my shortest trip ever). About halfway through the trip, I ate some sushi at a buffet-style place, and got violently ill! I panicked because I was having the time of my life and feeling like I had just discovered monger paradise, and I feared the remainder of the trip would be ruined! But lucky for me, I was only out of commission for one day. It took many trips and many years later before I would try sushi again in Brazil, and that happened to be in Sao Paulo if I recall correctly. I still can't recall eating sushi in Rio ever again, but I know there are supposed to be some good sushi restaurants in the Marvelous City now. My last time down, I had sushi at a fantastic place in Florianopolis (see the Brazilian Gastronomy thread).

[QUOTE=TheCane;3061594]The very first time I went to Brazil, it was to Rio for 10 days (my shortest trip ever). About halfway through the trip, I ate some sushi at a buffet-style place, and got violently ill! I panicked because I was having the time of my life and feeling like I had just discovered monger paradise, and I feared the remainder of the trip would be ruined! But lucky for me, I was only out of commission for one day. It took many trips and many years later before I would try sushi again in Brazil, and that happened to be in Sao Paulo if I recall correctly. I still can't recall eating sushi in Rio ever again, but I know there are supposed to be some good sushi restaurants in the Marvelous City now. My last time down, I had sushi at a fantastic place in Florianopolis (see the Brazilian Gastronomy thread).[/QUOTE]I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like Montezuma's Revenge Brazil-style.

I have been with one day of terrible stomach pains and ensuing sessions on the toilet in Brazil. This has hit members of my crew, but not on the same day.

All I could think was that I consumed some food that was infected by local water in some shape or form. As you suggested, it could have simply been poorly-handled food ingredients. The bug took one day / one night to flush through the system and I was generally back to normal.

As a rule when traveling countries in South America and Southeast Asia, I look to eat hot foods. The hotter the better. Obviously, I drink bottled water.

I like being a guide after talking with new to Rio mongers, depending on common language, culture, interests, etc. I can get these girls anytime so I am fine giving guests to Rio first pick.

[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;3061346]Any gringos like me Going to Brazil and want someone who really knows the scene let me know. Big parties (group of 16 guys last month) or solo / small groups.

Several members from this site already know him. He provides everything a gringo could want in Brazil and speaks English Portuguese and Spanish. Think he charged me like $30 a day. Driver private car, he found a Airbnb for one group and mansion for another. And his friends are hot haha.

Private message me stay safe out here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;3061777]If you would have asked me years ago if I need a guide to travel to party here ID say nah tbh. But now its just easier than wondering if this chick is a scammer or is she coming or what's the price is she the same chick in the photo. If I'm spending the money to come have fun, its worth it to pay to not worry about all the scams (as much as possible obvi never 100%).[/QUOTE]I have quite literally traveled all of my life starting from the days when I was just a child and traveling with my parents. I find the idea of paying for and using a security guide to hold my hand while on vacay to be pure anathema. I suppose for a guy who's less experienced and less sure of himself he might feel it's worth it to pay for this type of service, but for me, I would feel like it's a total waste of money. It's not that I think I'm invulnerable and that nothing can possibly happen to me. I don't think that. Something bad can happen to anybody. I don't care how much experience you have. But, I have enough of that travel experience to know that I don't need to pay anybody to look after my safety after decades and decades of safe and successful international travel to all kinds of destinations all over the world, including to war zones and high crime locales. I would rather keep that money in my own pockets to pay for another piece of ass or for another beer versus give it to somebody else to spend on himself for beer and ass LOL! To each his own, but paying for a security guide service while traveling abroad to monger and party is a big "no" for me. What do others think?

[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;3061777]Always valuable to have a fellow ISGer around haha yea this community is great and helped me before visiting and then moving to south america.

The guy I mentioned is a guide for dudes (or couples) in Colombia, peru and Brazil. He was just in sao paolo getting a gringo out of jail for fighting (another memeber here flew him from rio to SP to help his cousin not pay a huge fine and get out no issues)....

He takes care of the chicks, he found twins for a group of guys last month, the bachelor wanted twins haha he handles security, screens the chicks, like looks at their IDs and calls cop friend to make sure they arent trouble, he handles places to eat VIP discos boat parties...

anyone want his info - message me - hes in brazil until 4/29[/QUOTE]I suggest that he be careful as it doesn't sound like he's a local and I believe pimping is illegal in Brazil, and know for a fact it is in Colombia. And while they turn a blind eye to locals, they will not to foreigners. If the dude is an American then he will definitely have a bullseye on his back.

If he's doing all you say for $30/day, or only $4/hr... setting up parties, arranging chics, finding twins, bailing people out of jail, etc... that just sounds.... 'off' ....

Also, beware of the IG passport bro / influencer dudes. I've seen that RedBeard Rants guy both in Colombia (before he was kicked out) and also in Brazil (2 x at Casarao). Guys like him are all about 'setting up parties,' but total bad news and are on the police radar. Also just f'ing annoying in general.

Lastly, I'd personally hate to be stuck with the chics that a guy brings when I know I could go to one of many clubs and it's as easy as shooting fish in a barrel. My two cents.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3061788]I suggest that he be careful as it doesn't sound like he's a local and I believe pimping is illegal in Brazil, and know for a fact it is in Colombia. And while they turn a blind eye to locals, they will not to foreigners. If the dude is an American then he will definitely have a bullseye on his back.

If he's doing all you say for $30/day, or only $4/hr... setting up parties, arranging chics, finding twins, bailing people out of jail, etc... that just sounds.... 'off' ....

Also, beware of the IG passport bro / influencer dudes. I've seen that RedBeard Rants guy both in Colombia (before he was kicked out) and also in Brazil (2 x at Casarao). Guys like him are all about 'setting up parties,' but total bad news and are on the police radar. Also just f'ing annoying in general.

Lastly, I'd personally hate to be stuck with the chics that a guy brings when I know I could go to one of many clubs and it's as easy as shooting fish in a barrel. My two cents.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the suggestions but you made too many assumptions haha He is not american, he is a local. No one is pimping.

I didn't say he did all of what you meantioned for $30 a day. I said he charged me that. Anyone who wants to know what that included can reach out to me but he is a local and I said his friends were hot.

What he did getting the guy out of jail was between him and his client from a post today. Idk how you grouped everything about him into what I said he charged me haha I wasnt in jail.

Also good advice but not every gringo can or wants to go to the discos or bars shoot fish in a barrel but that also comes with risk of getting drugged and robbed etc. When girls came over to our airbnb he checked their IDs to make sure they were of age and real and double checked them.

Idk where you see pimping, many dudes have already reached out including several from europe, people know what a guide is, you're the only one who connected dots that werent there and saw pimping haha.

I'm not selling anything, I am not the guide. I just know theres alot of dudes who want to travel to south america and would want a guide. No women being sold or offered here.

[QUOTE=LetsGoMets;3061797]I appreciate the suggestions but you made too many assumptions haha He is not american, he is a local. No one is pimping....
.[/QUOTE]All good. You said that he was a guide in Colombia, Peru, and Brazil. So I didn't think he would be a local Brazilian. I'm happy that you're getting some traction for your friend's guide service. It's rare that we have people advertising that here.

Got to start checking out [URL]prismabarra.com[/URL] too.

Anyone got any recommendations here?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3061875]Got to start checking out [URL]prismabarra.com[/URL] too.

Anyone got any recommendations here?[/QUOTE]To me it looks like a massage and HJ place.

11,000 steps, dreman, temekeria.

So vagabundo was recovering from a root canal, and got a sushi lunch at the always excellent temekeria that toastmonger will remember at rua joana angelica 183 in ipanema. Time was 15 h Saturday.

We then walked over to copa, going left on bulhoes carvalho, by the metro, where there is a infamous fuck apartment where some good times were had. I had stayed in a airbnb there and fucked mayara rodrigues back in the day, the actual porn star. Incalls off of the old sites.

Some of us have family memories, for mongers, these snips of photos. [URL]google.com[/URL] may be ours in the monger family. Mayara. What an ass. True buttman pornstar find her on evilangel dot com.

Right at the corner with the metro on to ave nossa copacabana, then left to the always open bradesco with r200 notes (good to stockpile some lighter cash for the obvious covid type war era we are entering, eh?

Then a left to barata ribeiro, then a right onto barata ribeiro. Along the way, I do some ptsd prolongued exposure therapy with another monger, recalling two knife attacks at provider's apartments. Finally we arrive at the israeliti center, where I gather some info on the muay thai team which is next to a nice swimming pool. We who were forced to read deuteronomy and eat unleavened bread at passover in the basement of the temple will feel at home. One wonders how such places fared during previous world wars.

11,000 steps are reached at cardeal acorverde metro. We trade some info on gparena preferred highly rated providers.

Along with metrics like cost per fuck per minute annualized, I follow my cheapskate brother in mongering jimmyboy who has downloaded a pedometer app, and count steps as fucking is just cross training. The find of the patrol is a muay thai / swim locale, a good one.

Next week, I will be at SUS to get a test, and be back to marathon fucking rio's finest hoars!

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3061875]Got to start checking out [URL]prismabarra.com[/URL] too.

Anyone got any recommendations here?[/QUOTE]Went to the one at Av. Rio Branco, 156 in Centro in March. Asked if the sesions were like the sessionss at Dudas in the same building that included sex. Was told defoinetely not.

In order to be a nice guy with garotas and save money in the process I wanted to buy many bottles of gin and cachaça with different tastes such as strawberry, apple, banana etc.

I've been trying to find good selection of hard liquor in Rio, went to Zona Sul, Pão de Açúcar, Mundial, Extra Mercado, Atacadão and a few others to no avail. Delivery is not an option.

If anyone is SP has the same issue, go to Imigrantes Bebidas at Av. Miguel Stefano, 2096. One of the best selection in the world.

Any advice?

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3061875]Got to start checking out [URL]prismabarra.com[/URL] too.

Anyone got any recommendations here?[/QUOTE]Room is nice, shower in the room. Overall good service. Received an offer of are $1,000 for 90 minutes all holes included service.

Plus cost of a room and massage. Declined, cost of over US $ 300 is absurd.

Garotas are being rotated among 3 locations.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3061785]I have quite literally traveled all of my life starting from the days when I was just a child and traveling with my parents. I find the idea of paying for and using a security guide to hold my hand while on vacay to be pure anathema. I suppose for a guy who's less experienced and less sure of himself he might feel it's worth it to pay for this type of service, but for me, I would feel like it's a total waste of money. It's not that I think I'm invulnerable and that nothing can possibly happen to me. I don't think that. Something bad can happen to anybody. I don't care how much experience you have. But, I have enough of that travel experience to know that I don't need to pay anybody to look after my safety after decades and decades of safe and successful international travel to all kinds of destinations all over the world, including to war zones and high crime locales. I would rather keep that money in my own pockets to pay for another piece of ass or for another beer versus give it to somebody else to spend on himself for beer and ass LOL! To each his own, but paying for a security guide service while traveling abroad to monger and party is a big "no" for me. What do others think?[/QUOTE]Some of us don't have the extensive travel experience you do. I have found that when I vacation, I want someone who knows what they're doing making all the decisions for me. I ran my own business, making plenty of decisions. Having someone else make them is a huge relief. I've never paid for a guide that wasn't worth every penny.

My English-speaking guides in Vietnam told me what time to meet them and our driver in the hotel lobby in the morning. Had a great time all day, then back to the hotel in the evening and I was on my own. It was the best.

[QUOTE=ShortStop;3062139]Some of us don't have the extensive travel experience you do. I have found that when I vacation, I want someone who knows what they're doing making all the decisions for me. I ran my own business, making plenty of decisions. Having someone else make them is a huge relief. I've never paid for a guide that wasn't worth every penny.[/QUOTE]I can respect that. The only time I will ever hire a guide of any sort is when I'm doing something like a tour of a new city, and I want to learn things that I know I never would just by touring around on my own. Examples with respect to Brazil were when I went to Curitiba and Florianopolis where I had tour guides for a day show me around and tell me about the history of those cities. I plan to do the same thing when I go to Salvador later this year. But it's for learning about the history and culture of place, and not for safety, security, mongering, or anything like that. For those things, I'm quite comfortable moving about on my own, and it's more fun for me that way too. I don't need anybody holding my hand for that. Besides, some things are more of a personal nature (like where and who I'm fucking), and I want to tightly control who knows about my whereabouts and sexual shenanigans. No live "monger guides" need apply.

Notes for entertaining girls at your place.

Porta dos fundos (with English subtitles to learn).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2mccgB3XIk[/URL]

Sambo Hotel California.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocl8TOdYPfw[/URL]

A regular prive girl is over on a 3 hour followed by sushi perdia.

She also likes Chris Isaak, which is a plus. Listening to music / watching our choice of porn. Passing the days.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3061875]Got to start checking out [URL]prismabarra.com[/URL] too.

Anyone got any recommendations here?[/QUOTE]Last time I was in rio, a morena form eurospa told me that practically all massage parlours can get you laid with money.

Well yeah.

But cpfpm a -- raw.

Send a PM if your information is Top secret special compartmentalized!

On local zap group friend asks: Why you never share the plug on who these great rate working girls are like Ian? He straight dropped the pics and contact that's a plug.

Why you never share the plug on who these great rate working girls are like Ian? He straight dropped the pics and contact that's a plug.

Because I am a mystery spy writer for Zohan 2 in Rio. But if you have a iced tea again on the beach I am glad to share.

All my long time friends here know.

Vagabundo sayeth, in deuteronomy, chapter 69, verse 69: Because I am a mystery spy writer for Zohan 2 in Rio. But if you have a iced tea again on the beach I am glad to share.

Deal.

This group is basically seal team 69/ USMC rifle company l /3/7, or some Israeli counter part unit.

After we fuck I ship them out to Bibi on a German built submarine and we sleep next to penguin missiles on the trip to TEL Aviv but we switch to USS Pennsylvania mid Atlantic.

Now, all I need is some good the-working girls (development working girls, young Harvard graduates in Hollywood or oglobo japaragua to write up my genius into something for HBO).

[QUOTE=Fellas;3062307]Last time I was in rio, a morena form eurospa told me that practically all massage parlours can get you laid with money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fellas;3062307]Last time I was in rio, a morena form eurospa told me that practically all massage parlours can get you laid with money.[/QUOTE]Is this true? Anyone has actual experience of getting FS at legitimate massage parlors? No need to call names of the establishments.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3062347]Is this true? Anyone has actual experience of getting FS at legitimate massage parlors? No need to call names of the establishments.[/QUOTE]Many are located in this building in Copa: Centro Comercial de Copacabana. Best to negotiate with the provider in the room, not with the receptionist. They all want a piece of the action. To get the best rate negotiate with the provider directly in the room and yes you need to negotiate. Don't agree to the first number they quote you. As always YMMV. Happy hunting. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3062347]Is this true? Anyone has actual experience of getting FS at legitimate massage parlors? No need to call names of the establishments.[/QUOTE]Prisma terapias.

[QUOTE=HKS11;3062594] Best to negotiate with the provider in the room, not with the receptionist. They all want a piece of the action. To get the best rate negotiate with the provider directly in the room and yes you need to negotiate. Don't agree to the first number they quote you.[/QUOTE]And do it BEFORE the massage started.

Am I missing something? Why the recent eagerness to have FS at the massage places that officially only offers massage and HJ, when there are of hundreds of privées offering FS?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3062347]Is this true? Anyone has actual experience of getting FS at legitimate massage parlors? No need to call names of the establishments.[/QUOTE]Turgid. You have 6,000 plus posts, obviously you know that this is true kkk. The thing is that it still depends on the massage parlor, the girl, and even more so her attraction to you. If she gives signs and it happens naturally then you go for it, ideally with some explicit consent and agreement on $$. Tread carefully if you think that you will coax an attractive young minx that is not usually open to it to impulsively do so, especially if just traditional massage and not 'erotic massage. ' You may end up in a very awkward situation. I have had better success asking the attractive traditional girls if she's open to more erotic dates and massages outside the spa / clinica. Then she truly understands and it gives them time to consider.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3062839]Turgid. You have 6,000 plus posts, obviously you know that this is true kkk.....[/QUOTE]I knew no such thing. He said you can get FS in all legit massage establishments. I know you can get in some but not all. Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Bliadun;3062053]In order to be a nice guy with garotas and save money in the process I wanted to buy many bottles of gin and cachaa with different tastes such as strawberry, apple, banana etc.

I've been trying to find good selection of hard liquor in Rio, went to Zona Sul, Po de Acar, Mundial, Extra Mercado, Atacado and a few others to no avail. Delivery is not an option.

If anyone is SP has the same issue, go to Imigrantes Bebidas at Av. Miguel Stefano, 2096. One of the best selection in the world.

Any advice?[/QUOTE]I usually stop in duty free on my way into Rio and pick up a few bottles of single malt for myself and vodka for the girls. Sometimes I'll invite a girl over late afternoon and they usually like their drinks mixed with Red Bull but any juice will do. I have also found lately that a lot of girls prefer the whisky instead of the vodka even though I didn't buy it for them as I hate mixing expensive single malt with Red Bull. We’ll spend a couple of hours drinking listening to music and hanging out, better than being in a bar or Termas in my opinion. Many supermercados sell liquor but so does this wine store [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/NaGq2iApt1uAyvnD9?g_st=ic[/URL].

Rio Bob's mention of Deu la deu vinhos is in central Copa and has excellent selection. Good cachaça is not flavored, that's like USA coffee polluted with artificial syrups for people with no taste buds. Ugh. Mixing single malts with Red Bull? There is a special place in hell reserved for that! Or should be.

The good stuff is fairly scattered, but there are well priced farmers markets and boutique places in Rio and outskirts and lots of lovely places and national parks. Copa is indeed a bit of a sewer, however there are two excellent seafood places nearby such as Caranguejo at are. Barat Ribeiro 771 just near the Cantagalo metro on the line that takes you out to Barra to avoid the traffic choke points. I take my girls there (I have a stable pair for threesome, who know my every like, have costly sexy lingerie and heels and deliver with passion because they are VERY well treated). Imagine post coffee wake up being sucked by a pair of pretty girls, my balls being rubbed and kissed by one whilst the other rides cowboy. Nothing is off limits. Just thinking of them or hearing their voice gives me a boner by association.

USA is really messed up, sexually repressed and hypocritical society obsessed with violence, money and instant gratification with no idea how to live as a human being. I love the ready smiles of Brasil, the easy give and take and beautiful women, dance, energy, high quality and cheap health care, and more. It's always great to see newbies smiling, happy and animated like teenagers as their needs are met against the beach and beautiful tropical mountains and Cristo Redentor blessing our natural attraction to young, beautiful women as an affirmation of life and joy. Compare that to the freeways of White Plains NY or Houston and babbling, sclerotic, ignorant and mostly poor and hateful white religious nutjobs. No thanks! I'll stick to my two young women early twenties who make my legs wobbly and make me smile all the time and sing in the shower.

By the way, anyone know what a "GDP" is for working girls, never heard that before.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;3062936]
By the way, anyone know what a "GDP" is for working girls, never heard that before.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm reading it wrong but are you asking what GDP means?

Garota de programma. Nice way of saying working girl.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3062923]I usually stop in duty free on my way into Rio and pick up a few bottles of single malt for myself and vodka for the girls. Sometimes I'll invite a girl over late afternoon and they usually like their drinks mixed with Red Bull but any juice will do. I have also found lately that a lot of girls prefer the whisky instead of the vodka even though I didn't buy it for them as I hate mixing expensive single malt with Red Bull. Well spend a couple of hours drinking listening to music and hanging out, better than being in a bar or Termas in my opinion. Many supermercados sell liquor but so does this wine store [URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/NaGq2iApt1uAyvnD9?g_st=ic[/URL].[/QUOTE]Expecting Brazilian girls to understand the value of good whiskey is expecting too much, I'm afraid, LOL. Red Bull, on the other hand, is something they know well, it keeps them on their legs.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3062900]I knew no such thing. He said you can get FS in all legit massage establishments. I know you can get in some but not all. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Ah gotcha, and I agree with you. It is untrue that you can get FS in all legit massage establishments.

I asked about [URL]prismabarra.com.br[/URL], and the conversation was side tracked.

Slow news day.

Fwiw, I have been having a great time with non pro surfer dates, and chasing and getting some love and friendship here and there with college girls. I will recommend: 1) pedra do sol as a venue on Saturdays, nice vibe. Picked up some maconha brownies (PM me and I can share the contact). 2) botafogo. OMFG. The fucking young women talent, like college age. Made friends with young male wingmen, and flying around high on the maconha edible hitting on college girls (and then some of them pursuing me. Just came back from a beach date with a Colombian college student who wanted me to take her out to prainha.

I mean yeah, on Friday, I did a prive girl who came over to my place 105 minutes. 300/105 for a cpfpm of 2. 8383838835355534 roughly. In the middle of fucking finish Madonna Elsa jean calls, of all times. I am banging a 28 year old solid prive girl, going through oleo do coco by 200 ML a day or more. 350 ML. I mean that stuff works as massage oil, to run through your hair, skin conditioner.

But prismabarra is within walking distance, so I will make it there.

[QUOTE=Sperto;3062800]Am I missing something? Why the recent eagerness to have FS at the massage places that officially only offers massage and HJ, when there are of hundreds of prives offering FS?[/QUOTE]

Boteca treme treme, botafogo, and that whole street is the place to be Saturday nights for hot college women.

But you need legit game.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3063074]I asked about [URL]prismabarra.com.br[/URL], and the conversation was side tracked.

Slow news day.

Fwiw, I have been having a great time with non pro surfer dates, and chasing and getting some love and friendship here and there with college girls. I will recommend: 1) pedra do sol as a venue on Saturdays, nice vibe. Picked up some maconha brownies (PM me and I can share the contact). 2) botafogo. OMFG. The fucking young women talent, like college age. Made friends with young male wingmen, and flying around high on the maconha edible hitting on college girls (and then some of them pursuing me. Just came back from a beach date with a Colombian college student who wanted me to take her out to prainha.

I mean yeah, on Friday, I did a prive girl who came over to my place 105 minutes. 300/105 for a cpfpm of 2. 8383838835355534 roughly. In the middle of fucking finish Madonna Elsa jean calls, of all times. I am banging a 28 year old solid prive girl, going through oleo do coco by 200 ML a day or more. 350 ML. I mean that stuff works as massage oil, to run through your hair, skin conditioner.

But prismabarra is within walking distance, so I will make it there.[/QUOTE]

Weird question but I'll ask. Is there such thing as a guide in Rio or Sao Paolo that can set up your vacation for you. The girls, the hotels, basically outsource it all? I tried looking on google but can't find any such thing. I don't mean a resort. I would like to stay in the city but just want to pay someone to do all the work.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/PAVCEING-Portable-Outdoor-Camping-Straight/dp/B0CFKGS9SS/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1BBO8HEAEZDXO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ATGPDE4OmoTmLYlAaSIntQWz2fQ1VTmfrGiTN_QPfUrNcHoZ0KI9HBDCslB_8L3zxTay_m8sZjAr0p1NV3g2XiXcwcQheu8KQYf2LZwKw4xyJvV3DxQgKW4W1yOGNYlJbSUzL9lGkFeI5ZTsslvb4eWrBgsn_h8ziFmirhsLKHjMAVvBn0_3COhPXsU7eC23lfNz6ntWScB7bdofzHSRVSrILY6MqlDcJW9Nich2lUoucLRQVjzkrsh4DEbl5PwwDchni6Lna48RpIZCmgWFVJA-YSa7Yes6AcLJXTk2bNM.gol8-LwyE9WfNFL-50Uf0vV6ZLoPJ5jjKdLBjCHAwA8&dib_tag=se&keywords=socp[/URL]+dagger&qid=1777400475&sprefix=socp%2 Caps%2 C244&sr=8-2.

Anyone coming to rio, I would appreciate 2 (two) of those, or similar, the copy is OK, because they tend to get lost.

Also, would appreciate one of these.

[URL]https://www.amazon.com/Maxam-Saltwater-Knife-Rust-Proof-Reversible/dp/B0DRWC5Z5N/ref=pd_sbs_d_sccl_1_2/134-9503744-8408957?pd_rd_w=qkQUV&content-id=amzn1.sym.aa738fbd-ad05-4d11-aae2-04b598db6305&pf_rd_p=aa738fbd-ad05-4d11-aae2-04b598db6305&pf_rd_r=8NFJ8ZYSQ8EN9SYHYR0F&pd_rd_wg=3PQWw&pd_rd_r=52483a7f-70fc-4f90-b123-8f99296679eb&pd_rd_i=B0DRWC5Z5N&psc=1[/URL]

Glad to pay in local currency.

Also of course a pixel 8 a amazon factory refurbished at a price of less than 200 USD.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Sperto;3062800]Am I missing something? Why the recent eagerness to have FS at the massage places that officially only offers massage and HJ, when there are of hundreds of prives offering FS?[/QUOTE]Partly my fault. Someone said that you can get FS at all massage places and I got excited. I would like nothing better than to have a hot legit massage girl visit my place on a regular basis for FS and a massage.

I will do that except I am not a pimp, so I don't actually bring the girls. But I will take you around to all the places, and I will interpret, and I will give you first choice. In fact, I sort of enjoy this -- really enjoy it. See toastmonger's report from before when I did that for him in December / January. Also, it is dependent on a call, and having similar interests. That said, you can find others, so shop around. PM me. At the least, I will get in touch, and help as much as I can. We few, we mongers, we happy few, for he who shoots a wad onto the crack of a hoar today. Or something like that. The Swiss navy infantry have landed, and the situation is well in hand!

Vagabundo had a good fuck 250/50 cpfpm for 5 today, and then had a non pro great date. I tried not to puke during Michael, but my date, my surf girl is a rad friend, and nut busted, I had a great time. I am the prize.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3063368]Weird question but I'll ask. Is there such thing as a guide in Rio or Sao Paolo that can set up your vacation for you. The girls, the hotels, basically outsource it all? I tried looking on google but can't find any such thing. I don't mean a resort. I would like to stay in the city but just want to pay someone to do all the work.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;3062936]USA is really messed up, sexually repressed and hypocritical society obsessed with violence, money and instant gratification with no idea how to live as a human being. I love the ready smiles of Brasil, the easy give and take and beautiful women, dance, energy, high quality and cheap health care, and more. It's always great to see newbies smiling, happy and animated like teenagers as their needs are met against the beach and beautiful tropical mountains and Cristo Redentor blessing our natural attraction to young, beautiful women as an affirmation of life and joy. Compare that to the freeways of White Plains NY or Houston and babbling, sclerotic, ignorant and mostly poor and hateful white religious nutjobs. No thanks! I'll stick to my two young women early twenties who make my legs wobbly and make me smile all the time and sing in the shower..[/QUOTE]Just a totally warped view. This is almost like a chatgpt parody for passportbro / expats in developing countries.

Yea Brasil is paradise, for. You.

I imagine a white guy past his 50's with disposable income, so Rio seems like Disney land.

The women in their 20's giving it up for 100 reales set up the illusion, where if you offered a sorority girl 20 USD for some head she would laugh in your face.

That's it, that's the crux of it. Let's be honest here, it's about the sexual market value. Girls with no hot water and dirt floors are ecstatic to see an old gringo come splurge in their country so they can buy vapes and makeup, in the USA you're just another average Joe.

The reason you think this way is because of the income disparity. If you had to live on 50 reals a day, you would be dying to go to white plains or Houston for a better life to see the smiles of Americans (since there's only religious nutjobs there and famously none at all in Brasil).

This is partially the reason I always monger solo, the second hand embarrassment of being with somebody like you or a guy like vagabundo in the streets larping as a local with soccer gear and pepper spray as if he's going to fight off some favelados.

Sorry to be rude / straightforward, posts like these are just totally delusional and rub me the wrong way. Most of Brasil is a dump, that's why everyone here is dying to go to Portugal / the states.

Hi Johnny Walker.

Thanks for your frankness. I own a place in the nice green hills of Rio and a good part of NYC, and yes, I am well aware of the income disparity and motivations of poor women. I pay well above the rate and then some. I work out and am no loser like the tragic mostly drunk and fat, halitosis cheap charlies with nothing else to do but pump up their fragile ego with working girls in squalid fuck hutches.

I totally understand your take. But some context is needed.

All of life is a trade, it's not fair and never was, and there is always a sucker in the game. Many of the punters here are suckers too, buying illusion and fooling themselves about how undesirable they actually are, the male equivalent to lipstick on a pig. When you see girls often enough and treat them really well and with respect (as people outside of the bedroom with emotional needs and life events), things get a lot more interesting and less transactional real fast. It's called being a human. I've found a lifestyle that works for me with those I interact with, and even have a housekeeper on a payroll AND helped her out paying for specialist care. I don't need to interact with losers, and certainly not passport bro losers. There are some very cool cats I've me through this site and on my travels, men of substance with real lives, mostly sensible and cosmopolitan.

USA has enormous problems, two of the biggies being casual violence, domination, fetish for uniforms and symbols of authority, sexual repression / hypocrisy as well as worship on status, money obesity, drug and alcohol use and a shit load of ignorance that I'm sure suits those in power. The health care failure and financial exploitation by the debt industry also comes to mind. The conditions of migrant workers on USA farms, restaurants and so on living on the very fringes is not a whole lot different from working girls, and the same can be said for most USA gig workers. Exploitation comes in many flavors, look at Epstein his gang of Presidents, royalty, CEOs, politicians, movie stars. The so called elite, clearly protected and nasty predators, with some evidence many disappeared or suicided (the girls I mean, and it turns out boys too that is year to come out). No doubt Melania married Donald for charm, good looks, intellect, charm and manners. What do you call that? Compare that with selective retail hooker stings. None of that selective sexual repression threat exists in Germany, Singapore, Japan Brasil and most other civilized places, assuming the participants are over 18 and consenting, as should be the case in any situation.

Partaking of beautiful young women by fully open and consensual dealing is fine and healthy, just don't be a loser, be respectful, and don't be stingy if they are nice. It's a service business like any other, hair cutters, taxi drivers etc that adds to our life and we reciprocate with good manners, cash and well placed gratitude for a job well done.

Peace out!

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3063368]Weird question but I'll ask. Is there such thing as a guide in Rio or Sao Paolo that can set up your vacation for you. The girls, the hotels, basically outsource it all? I tried looking on google but can't find any such thing. I don't mean a resort. I would like to stay in the city but just want to pay someone to do all the work.[/QUOTE]I believe this guy Swedish gringo might provide such services.

[URL]https://youtu.be/y1KCGDvwkEQ?si=FW7vknlE6MudQg9-[/URL]

[QUOTE=RioBob;3064050]I believe this guy Swedish gringo might provide such services.

[URL]https://youtu.be/y1KCGDvwkEQ?si=FW7vknlE6MudQg9-[/URL][/QUOTE]He might not be into the mongering scene though as all his video content is about partying with locals and particularly younger non-pros.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064074]He might not be into the mongering scene though as all his video content is about partying with locals and particularly younger non-pros.[/QUOTE]I agree, but I don't think it hurts to ask.

The guy seems to promote the sexuality of Brazilian women. He has probably been asked many times.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3064176]I agree, but I don't think it hurts to ask. The guy seems to promote the sexuality of Brazilian women. He has probably been asked many times.[/QUOTE]I would not hire him unless I was confident that he was knowledgeable of the mongering scene. Just because he promotes the sexuality of women doesn't mean he knows anything about successful mongering, especially about the particular way that a potential client is interested in mongering (not all mongering is the same). Well, I wouldn't hire him anyway because I'm philosophically opposed to using guides for our hobby (does not match my personal views about it). But, you get what I mean.

[QUOTE=Combo;3060688]Thanks for the comprehensive review. I do feel like your plan of action didn't allow you to best experience our hobby in Rio. First, the termas are generally way better than the prives. It would have been nice to check out Monte Carlo / Solarium / Centaurus and gone to back to 4 x4 another day / night. There is an ebb and a flow and cast can change a lot in short time. Only see 8 girls at 4x4 happens, but seeing 30-40 also happens.

As far as prives, weekdays are way better than weekends (if they're even open). Eden spa and the other place in the same building frequently have a very nice lineup during the week.

Anyway, it's good you were able to hit the main tourists spots which many mongers don't bother with.[/QUOTE]Just wondering why you feel that I might have missed out during my trip since I did not hit the night time termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and Centaurus? I thought it's often considered that the girls at the termas these days are really no better in quality and service than the better ones at the prive lineups except that the rates at the termas are 2-3 times higher and maybe nicer rooms plus a bar. I was quite pleased with most of the girls I chose at the daytime prives but if I'm really missing out on something significant if I didn't do the night time termas, then I would consider a return to Rio.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064212]Just wondering why you feel that I might have missed out during my trip since I did not hit the night time termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and Centaurus? I thought it's often considered that the girls at the termas these days are really no better in quality and service than the better ones at the prive lineups except that the rates at the termas are 2-3 times higher and maybe nicer rooms plus a bar. I was quite pleased with most of the girls I chose at the daytime prives but if I'm really missing out on something significant if I didn't do the night time termas, then I would consider a return to Rio.[/QUOTE]It's ultimately a matter of personal taste, so no, IMHO, the overall quality is better at the termas and I would add the overall quality of the experience is better as well. Think of it as 2 bell curves representing girl quality distribution at the top 4 termas vs girl quality distribution at the top 4 prive's. The 1st thing to notice is that there is a quality overlap in both samples, BUT the average or mean in looks favors the terma girls and more attractive girls are more likely to be found in the termas. But like I said, it is a matter of personal taste and finance. If you were happy with the quality of your prive girls and the overall experience, then go for it. You have found your bliss. But if not, then you owe it to yourself to give the termas another shot and while you are at it, to check out the SP Clinicas, which are directly comparable to RJ Prive's. But IMHO, are far more fun than the Prive's. And don't forgetabout the SP Boates which are at the top of all mongering venues in Brazil. There is just no comparison between Scan, Bomboa, Gauguin, Casaro and any of the RJ Termas and I like RJ Termas. KKK.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064212]Just wondering why you feel that I might have missed out during my trip since I did not hit the night time termas like Monte Carlo, Solarium and Centaurus? I thought it's often considered that the girls at the termas these days are really no better in quality and service than the better ones at the prive lineups except that the rates at the termas are 2-3 times higher and maybe nicer rooms plus a bar. I was quite pleased with most of the girls I chose at the daytime prives but if I'm really missing out on something significant if I didn't do the night time termas, then I would consider a return to Rio.[/QUOTE]You didn't miss nothing. You got what you wanted right? It's an illusion in our heads and also to justify the high prices we pay that makes us think the higher end joints and putas are better or worth it. There are gems to be had in those prives and terapias, that are more value for money. I had a girl for 180 reals at Emporio Banho, all holes inclusive next time I came, She was at Eden Spa at Copacabana asking for 250 reals and 100 extra for anal. What had changed in a couple of months? Now she's in Monte Carlo and to take her would cost 980 reals. Ridiculous.

Same also in Sao Paulo. You met a girl at a Prive for 350 reals, at Casarao for 500 reals, at Scandallo 1500 reals. Nonsense.

Yesterday a girl who used to work at 4 x 4, then last year went to work in England, sent a message that she was back in Brazil. She wanted us to meet and was asking for 600 reals for 1 HR vaginal sex and 300 reals extra for anal. I replied hell no. Her response was I didn't value her and her services. Just imagine. The cheek. Younger pussy from 390 reals all inclusive to older pussy for 900 reals.

At those high end joints, I wouldn't fuck some of those girls for free, not to talk of the insane prices being charged.

You have just discovered where most Brazilians monger. Go and enjoy yourself more.

Shakira performed at Copacabana Beach on Saturday night. It was like hell was let loose on Copa. From early morning there were barricades along the streets of Copa. The human and vehicular traffic was crazy. All the food sellers were on Rua Barata Riberio and Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana. My God it was a crazy. There was a crazy amount of people at the back entrance of Hotel Copacabana Palace. Apparently Shakira was staying there.

There were also tons of Chicas and putas. Both civilians and professionals. Scored a lot of numbers. There was heavy police presence, area felt very safe.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3064193]I would not hire him unless I was confident that he was knowledgeable of the mongering scene. Just because he promotes the sexuality of women doesn't mean he knows anything about successful mongering, especially about the particular way that a potential client is interested in mongering (not all mongering is the same). Well, I wouldn't hire him anyway because I'm philosophically opposed to using guides for our hobby (does not match my personal views about it). But, you get what I mean.[/QUOTE]You're right. I don't think he's necessarily going to know prives and other options like Vila Mimosa. However, I am sure this Swedish guide knows where the termas are and is aware of the boates on the northeastern side of Copa. I think a man living in Rio would have to be oblivious to the city to not know. He also looks young enough to know the civilian scene where some members like to dip their toe. I would be concerned that he would be an expensive guide.

I have never used a guide anywhere. When the Rio sex scene was booming, the "sex" guides didn't offer much insight in my opinion. They took guys to the usual spots Help, Barbarella, Centaurus, L'Uomo etc. Many times they never left Copacabana and the immediately adjacent area.

I did get invited by a group who had hired a guy named Don to hang out with them one evening. There was some benefit for them to have a translator. A translator is not necessary, but it can smooth over some things. That is especially true if you don't want to put in anytime learning some Portuguese phrases.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;3064300]It's an illusion in our heads and also to justify the high prices we pay that makes us think the higher end joints and putas are better or worth it. There are gems to be had in those prives and terapias, that are more value for money.[/QUOTE]Your analysis is spot on.

The best gems I've found were all in privées, some in Tijuca privées and others in tiny privées in Lapa (with only 2 girls working). The problems is that some of those gems move on to other places or meet a sugar daddy that'll keep her as a mistress.

Regarding how girls charges different. In the early 2000's me and couple of my friends were having beers at VM when I saw a very beautiful mulatta arriving for work. She was astonishing and hade very large natural tits. As soon as she got off her moto-taxi I picked her up as I prefer to be the first customer. We had a great session, 25 reais /30 minutes. I told her I had seen her before and she told me she worked at Help charging 400 reais. Of course I found it strange that she did 25 reais sessions at VM. She explained that she was working as a GP just a few months and wanted to earn a maximum in just a short time. Daytime / evenings at VM she could have lots of 25 reais sessions and nighttime at Help she could have two 400 reais sessions. A very ambitious girl.

As soon as I was finished with her one of my friends sessioned with her. He was so happy afterwards telling how lovely it was sucking on those large chocolate melons. I was kind and didn't tell him that I had shot my load over her tits and she hadn't washed her tits afterwards, just wiped her tits wth a sheet. Anyway, this girl had customers all the time. As soon as she left the casa there were a new client.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3064074]He might not be into the mongering scene though as all his video content is about partying with locals and particularly younger non-pros.[/QUOTE]I get your point but one of his videos he explains how he got drugged with a boa noite Cinderella and they wiped him out, says it was a couple he met in lapa but he could be lying most likely a GDP. Also he goes around the beach interviewing girls and one girl he knew her name and I know for sure she is a GDP as I've been with her a few times, she is now trying to be a DJ, I wish her luck. Doesn't prove anything but he can ask.

A lot of these passport bro you tubers are monetizing fools.

As the saying goes, if you don't know who the fool in the room is, it is probably you.

He's selling a lot that can be had for free or the price of your share of a meal or uber or RTFF. As an example, he has a 60 page guide he is selling for 30 USD, or the price of a fuck in a centro prive.

I've been updating the bubba boy / vagabubba guide mainly for my own purposes, but for friends, and it is 180 pages, and it is free for ISGers who join the local zap group after a call.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3064587]I get your point but one of his videos he explains how he got drugged with a boa noite Cinderella and they wiped him out, says it was a couple he met in lapa but he could be lying most likely a GDP. Also he goes around the beach interviewing girls and one girl he knew her name and I know for sure she is a GDP as I've been with her a few times, she is now trying to be a DJ, I wish her luck. Doesn't prove anything but he can ask.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3064849]A lot of these passport bro you tubers are monetizing fools.

As the saying goes, if you don't know who the fool in the room is, it is probably you.

He's selling a lot that can be had for free or the price of your share of a meal or uber or RTFF. As an example, he has a 60 page guide he is selling for 30 USD, or the price of a fuck in a centro prive.

I've been updating the bubba boy / vagabubba guide mainly for my own purposes, but for friends, and it is 180 pages, and it is free for ISGers who join the local zap group after a call.[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly.

As far as I am concerned, Rick Steves was the OG travel influencer. Make a bunch of travel shows for public broadcasting for no charge. Make your money selling guide books and tours for many years.

With the advent of YouTube and other video sites, it's a crowded model. Beyond their YouTube revenue, everyone of these travel influencers is hustling a guide, guided tours and sometimes relocation assistance.

Hey fellas,

I just found out that I am coming to Rio for work. I have played in Rome, Mexico, Korea, and an FKK in Germany. Really excited to come to Rio, but is there a good place to start researching my options? I have always done plenty of research and try to stay safe. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Stay safe friends.

Oasis.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065177]Hey fellas,

I just found out that I am coming to Rio for work. I have played in Rome, Mexico, Korea, and an FKK in Germany. Really excited to come to Rio, but is there a good place to start researching my options? I have always done plenty of research and try to stay safe. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Stay safe friends.

Oasis.[/QUOTE]Dude just RTFF. It's replete with information. Start with the Reports of Distinction. Then ask follow-up questions here.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065177]I just found out that I am coming to Rio for work. Really excited to come to Rio, but is there a good place to start researching my options? I have always done plenty of research and try to stay safe. Any help is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Right here in this thread.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3065178]Dude just RTFF. It's replete with information. Start with the Reports of Distinction. Then ask follow-up questions here.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will, but its 32,000 pages haha. I was hoping for a sticky post or something. Is there a way to filter Reports of distinction?

Thanks guys,

Oasis.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065293]Thanks I will, but its 32,000 pages haha. I was hoping for a sticky post or something. Is there a way to filter Reports of distinction?

Thanks guys,

Oasis.[/QUOTE]I recently wrote a pretty long report on my first trip to Rio. Do a quick search under my ID and you should find that post. I go over some tourism, food, accommodations and transit stuff plus all the mongering spots I hit during my stay. That should get you a basic handle to start.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3065314]I recently wrote a pretty long report on my first trip to Rio. Do a quick search under my ID and you should find that post. I go over some tourism, food, accommodations and transit stuff plus all the mongering spots I hit during my stay. That should get you a basic handle to start.[/QUOTE]So I have the chance to change my work trip to Mexico City. Thoughts? Like you, I am not into the thick girls. When you list prices, I am assuming that is in local currency? Were the Termas easy to get too? I will be with my coworkers and will have to slip away to play so locations can be a challenge sometimes.

I appreciate your help with this.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065498]I will be with my coworkers and will have to slip away to play so locations can be a challenge sometimes.[/QUOTE]Why not go with your coworkers? Everyone will have the idea to slip away to play and you will all run into each other at the same spot anyway. Or maybe my coworkers are different than everybody else's.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065498]Were the Termas easy to get too? I will be with my coworkers and will have to slip away to play so locations can be a challenge sometimes.[/QUOTE]As easy as walking into a door.

Ditching your (male) coworkers might not be as easy, though, as you might find them visiting the same terma you do, LOL.

Send me. A PM to be added to a local WhatsApp group.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065293]Thanks I will, but its 32,000 pages haha. I was hoping for a sticky post or something. Is there a way to filter Reports of distinction?

Thanks guys,

Oasis.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3065498]So I have the chance to change my work trip to Mexico City. Thoughts? Like you, I am not into the thick girls. When you list prices, I am assuming that is in local currency? Were the Termas easy to get too? I will be with my coworkers and will have to slip away to play so locations can be a challenge sometimes.

I appreciate your help with this.[/QUOTE]Damn that would be a horrible mistake. Cdmx is not good for the girl scene compared to Brazil. Not even close. Cdmx has a great Seeking scene but nothing like the clubs and termas in Brazil.

If you are getting to Rio (and can afford a $500 night out) you should try to get to So Paulo. Quite simply the best girls venue on planet earth (and I've been everywhere). Plenty of slim petite hotties. No issue.

As far as RTFF I've always found reading the most recent 5 pages of any forum will give you the lay of the land.

PS Girls scene is always more fun at night IMO. Just go out after dinner with the team. Brazil is open late night and doesn’t even start before 10.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3065552]Why not go with your coworkers? Everyone will have the idea to slip away to play and you will all run into each other at the same spot anyway. Or maybe my coworkers are different than everybody else's.[/QUOTE]Some people in certain jobs can't risk letting their work colleagues know they're out looking for putas as that could get them fired. Now, if a colleague shows up at 4 x4 or some other place where your organization says you both aren't supposed to be at the same time you do, then you both hold a secret one over the other. But yes, some people are in careers like that. They find out you've been flying all around the world fucking pretty girls in the ass, some of it on their dime in the form of business trips, and they will fire your own ass! Apparently you and your co-workers aren't in that kind of organization or career. I remember one time a work colleague mentioned he had been to 4 x 4. I played stupid. Wasn't about to trust a motherfucker with my livelihood!

It's been 17 yrs. Since my last visit, the heyday of Help & Luomo. I'm coming back in August & was thinking of burning some of my points at the Hyatt on Ave. Lucio Costa in Barra at the tail end of my trip. The 1st 10 days will be in Copa, Centro, & Ipa then I will move to the Hyatt. Anyway, 1) anybody know if the metro has a stop anywhere near this hotel? 2) What is the closest termas to this hotel? 3) If I reserved my room for 2 guests will I be able to bring diff garotas to visit me in my room during my stay? Thank you for any help gentlemen.

Obrigado amigos.

[QUOTE=Shemp;3065787]It's been 17 yrs. Since my last visit, the heyday of Help & Luomo. I'm coming back in August & was thinking of burning some of my points at the Hyatt on Ave. Lucio Costa in Barra at the tail end of my trip. The 1st 10 days will be in Copa, Centro, & Ipa then I will move to the Hyatt. Anyway, 1) anybody know if the metro has a stop anywhere near this hotel? 2) What is the closest termas to this hotel? 3) If I reserved my room for 2 guests will I be able to bring diff garotas to visit me in my room during my stay? Thank you for any help gentlemen.

Obrigado amigos.[/QUOTE]1. The nearest metro IIRC is Jardim Oceanico, about 10 minute Uber ride.

2. None unless you count Perola Negra as terma (I don't). 10-minute ride.

3. Yes unless their policy has changed in the last 12 months.

If you've never stayed at Grand Hyatt Barra, you'll be pleasantly surprised. It's a true resort. Great pool, right across from the beach, very nice sushi joint. If you have a lot of Hyatt points, upgrade to a suite, you'll love it. By the way, book before May 20, as they're criminally devaluing the points after that.

You should see toastmonger's report, which I nominated in the reports of distinction.

1. metro jardim oceanico is 15 minutes away.

2. perola negra and paris cafe, and vagabundo is your wingman. Glad to translate if necessary, and give you first pick. I've fucked them all, when they were in vila mimosa. I'm the reason they moved to barra over the last 3 years.

3. yes. And you put your buddy vagabundo in the exective lounge to come on down for security and / or to fuck them too, haaha. Not kidding. Have done it. Went to casurarina at posto 10 in between.

Send me a PM.

[QUOTE=Shemp;3065787]It's been 17 yrs. Since my last visit, the heyday of Help & Luomo. I'm coming back in August & was thinking of burning some of my points at the Hyatt on Ave. Lucio Costa in Barra at the tail end of my trip. The 1st 10 days will be in Copa, Centro, & Ipa then I will move to the Hyatt. Anyway, 1) anybody know if the metro has a stop anywhere near this hotel? 2) What is the closest termas to this hotel? 3) If I reserved my room for 2 guests will I be able to bring diff garotas to visit me in my room during my stay? Thank you for any help gentlemen..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shemp;3065787]It's been 17 yrs. Since my last visit, the heyday of Help & Luomo. I'm coming back in August & was thinking of burning some of my points at the Hyatt on Ave. Lucio Costa in Barra at the tail end of my trip. The 1st 10 days will be in Copa, Centro, & Ipa then I will move to the Hyatt. Anyway, 1) anybody know if the metro has a stop anywhere near this hotel? 2) What is the closest termas to this hotel? 3) If I reserved my room for 2 guests will I be able to bring diff garotas to visit me in my room during my stay? Thank you for any help gentlemen..[/QUOTE]Hi Shemp, on a couple of past trips I have done exactly what you are contemplating ie I split my time equally between Copa and Barra. I always enjoyed my stays at the Hyatt. The hotel IS GF! And the rooms are spacious and all come with balconies. And this stretch of beach is a nature preserve!

If you are a Hyatt member, you might get an upgrade to a direct ocean front room. Fantastic! But here's a tip; the standard rooms facing the lagoon are really good too and actually better in winter (warmer / less windy). The closest Terma is Black Pearl (less than 10 minutes by uber). My favorite terma is Solarium (30 minutes by uber). 4 x 4 is 40 minutes by uber minimum.

A. H.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3065840]
2. None unless you count Perola Negra as terma (I don't). 10-minute ride.

<snip>

If you've never stayed at Grand Hyatt Barra, you'll be pleasantly surprised. It's a true resort. Great pool, right across from the beach, very nice sushi joint. If you have a lot of Hyatt points, upgrade to a suite, you'll love it. By the way, book before May 20, as they're criminally devaluing the points after that.[/QUOTE]Hi Xpartan, bummer about the point devaluation. It reminds me of what the airlines did to their mileage programs 15 to 20 years ago. Every 3rd or 4th flight to BKK used to be free on points in the good ol' days.

Question: how would you categorize Perola Negra if you do not consider it an RJ terma?

Ann amari like Bella Donna says she wants a house in her name in order to have a kid. She says she will stop smoking weed when she has a kid-- while she smokes non stop -- which is why she can only fuck for 5 minutes max whereas I can for 120 minutes due to training kick boxing, which I was.

Anyway sus testing takes too long. Sitting waiting for PReP. Which is not free given the hours in line.

A classic case of Brazil withdrawal syndrome.

Rabbi. What's the cost per fuck per minute annualized in your part of the rich world?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3065840]1. The nearest metro IIRC is Jardim Oceanico, about 10 minute Uber ride.

2. None unless you count Perola Negra as terma (I don't). 10-minute ride.

[/QUOTE]I've had some good experiences at Perola Negra. Doesn't typically have quite the energy as 4x4, but there are usually a decent # of attractive chicas.

Paris OTOH is weak. Definitely not worth going further out to Recreio if that's the sole reason.

[QUOTE=Combo;3065944]I've had some good experiences at Perola Negra. Doesn't typically have quite the energy as 4x4, but there are usually a decent # of attractive chicas. Paris OTOH is weak. Definitely not worth going further out to Recreio if that's the sole reason.[/QUOTE]I agree regarding Paris Cafe. Stopped in there and it was a total waste of time. Headed out to Perola Negra, and although I didn't session, it was much better and worth a visit.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3065918]Ann amari like Bella Donna says she wants a house in her name in order to have a kid. She says she will stop smoking weed when she has a kid-- while she smokes non stop -- which is why she can only fuck for 5 minutes max whereas I can for 120 minutes due to training kick boxing, which I was.

Anyway sus testing takes too long. Sitting waiting for PReP. Which is not free given the hours in line.[/QUOTE]Did not want to go to sus, as I imagined a pain in the ass long process. It is available for example at drogaria raia at copa for around 180 R for 30 tablets. No prescription needed. Can be ordered on rappi even. Brand name Binav.

With no prior testing not recommended for first time users.

For what it's worth, I agree with The Cane & Combo on Perola Negra. It's an OK terma and I have met some very nice girls there, but I have never seen the place rock like 4 x 4 and for some reason I prefer the vibe (and the girls) at Solarium. So, the bottom line for me whenever I stay in Barra is that I will go to Perola Negra at least one time during my stay, but if I am staying in Copa or Ipanema the odds are slim that I will make it over there. I have never been to Paris. If memory serves, Vagabundo recommended this terma a while back. I believe this place operates differently on certain days at certain times. Check your local listings before you go. KKK.

I do not disagree.

But Perola Negra and 4 x 4 are under the same management or ownership (not clear on which, given that the info I gather is clouded by megadosing Cialis and pussy), and the girls go back and forth, for example blond Penelope 2021, to distinguish her from blond Penelope 2025.

Pictures available upon request via zap, kkk. Numbers too. I guess I could not post here.

Blond Penelope 2021, bless her mineira heart, has 'made it' to Europe, and indeed, Bali. We all fucked her. I remember talking to her: 1) while sitting at the shower steam room where, as she went up with a penis in tow, I got her number and the numbers of dozens. Yes, I am dick, yes there is a reason I train muay Thai, yes someday I should get my ass beat and yes someday that day may come, but, as maverick says, not yet. Tom cruise has been optioned to play vagabundo in Tropic of Cancer the Rio edition. 2) downstairs on the pole, where she was a top stripper, along with belladonna, who I rode bare in her negra kunt 25 times pernoite for 500 r per each pernoite. Like a little inland empire stripper porn star with a 626 area code, just like the real Ana foxxx. Until she got sick of my being the age of her grandfather and I got sick of her picking violent, loud fights with me in Transamerica, and I got sick of her begging for cab money at 0900 when she was coming back from some rave party with her 'gay' guy friends who were her age and who sort of laughed at me. But you know, that is life. I am 87. I have another 23 years to live. The vaginal fluids of 18 year olds delay my passage into Sheol at the age of 120, when Moses shall grant me and my heirs the intellectual property rights to the Old Testament, to be paid in perpetuity through discounts at 4 x4, 3) down stairs another level on the pole when blond Penelope danced on the pole and michaelsamuel took her to a room because that is how you make money in the mean streets of centro in the financial district when the bolsa valores is closed.

Well, in Perola Negra, Penelope just has to sit by the door out to the outdoor deck, which is now unfortunately closed up with a roof so the smoke from the ganja cannot waft away in the early evening so management does not fucking make you put your joints out. Ganja brownies are better anyway. Kick boxing is better anyway, actually. Go catch lislopes pole dancer show at perola, and with a girl at asha cafe.

Barra is the best area in Rio. In the world. Perola Negra is the best sex club on earth. I mean, Centaurus is better sort of. But really, the best girls at Perola are as good as Centaurus or (wait for it) scandallo. How many dicks do you have to give to Switzerland? I am a fucking Swiss navy Lieutenant Commander, and the government of SUISSE pays me to write an occasional update to the Swiss navy Titty Bar Survey for Rio de Janeiro.


[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3066019]For what it's worth, I agree with The Cane & Combo on Perola Negra. It's an OK terma and I have met some very nice girls there, but I have never seen the place rock like 4 x 4 and for some reason I prefer the vibe (and the girls) at Solarium. So, the bottom line for me whenever I stay in Barra is that I will go to Perola Negra at least one time during my stay, but if I am staying in Copa or Ipanema the odds are slim that I will make it over there. I have never been to Paris. If memory serves, Vagabundo recommended this terma a while back. I believe this place operates differently on certain days at certain times. Check your local listings before you go. KKK.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3065576]Some people in certain jobs can't risk letting their work colleagues know they're out looking for putas as that could get them fired. Now, if a colleague shows up at 4 x4 or some other place where your organization says you both aren't supposed to be at the same time you do, then you both hold a secret one over the other. But yes, some people are in careers like that. They find out you've been flying all around the world fucking pretty girls in the ass, some of it on their dime in the form of business trips, and they will fire your own ass! Apparently you and your co-workers aren't in that kind of organization or career. I remember one time a work colleague mentioned he had been to 4 x 4. I played stupid. Wasn't about to trust a motherfucker with my livelihood![/QUOTE]He got away with it for a long time, even though it seems like it was an open secret due to his bragging about it. When the heat started to get hot, he decided to quit before getting sacked. Lucky he could retire:

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/14/us-border-patrol-chief-resigns[/URL]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3065893]Hi Xpartan, bummer about the point devaluation. It reminds me of what the airlines did to their mileage programs 15 to 20 years ago. Every 3rd or 4th flight to BKK used to be free on points in the good ol' days.

Question: how would you categorize Perola Negra if you do not consider it an RJ terma?[/QUOTE]It's all semantics, but how is it a terma? No robes, no showers, no saunas, LOL? It's a boate with rooms onsite, like 4 x4 on Saturday. Or like Mosaico with better rooms.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3066141]It's all semantics, but how is it a terma? No robes, no showers, no saunas, LOL? It's a boate with rooms onsite, like 4 x4 on Saturday. Or like Mosaico with better rooms.[/QUOTE]I consider Perola Negra a terma because its girls work for the house, prices are set / fixed by the house, customers pay all charges and fees directly to the house, and a girly takeout fee is always set prohibitively high. In other words, the terma has complete control. In the classic sense it is a house of ill repute. In SP, however, boate girls act as independent contractors. Customers and girls are free to make their own arrangements. The boate bordello has nothing to do with it. Boate customers must pay a partially consumable entrance fee / cover charge, all incidentals over the cover, and they must pay a ST hotel room charge or an equal amount exit fee if they want to get it on with a girl or girls that night. In essence boates are nightclubs filled with FL hookers where every man knows he can pick up and have sex with any girl (free agent) of his choosing in the club for a yet to be determined price.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3066041]Barra is the best area in Rio. In the world. Perola Negra is the best sex club on earth. I mean, Centaurus is better sort of. But really, the best girls at Perola are as good as Centaurus or (wait for it) scandallo. How many dicks do you have to give to Switzerland? I am a fucking Swiss navy Lieutenant Commander, and the government of SUISSE pays me to write an occasional update to the Swiss navy Titty Bar Survey for Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]I second that. Difference Barra de Tijuca and Copacabana is like day and night. I never liked Perola Negra because it was too far away with no guarantees. 55 minutes from Copacabana, so that's 2 HR journey back and forth. Then you get there and meet skanks. But recently Perola Negra has improved, fine looking tutes and big ass bundas on display.

I Met an exotic Cabocla from Solariam who invited me to a Feijoada de Ogum at her Terreiro in RJ. She's a Filha de Santo there, so she had total "home-field advantage. ".

We have known each other for a long while. She taught me my first Axe drinking toast "Coma, beba, e viva com Axe!

I wore All white clothes & red and white hat for the occasion. Great drums (Atabaques), music and the smell of palm oil and incense. This wasn't a tourist spot of Michael Jackson. It was a deep-favela Rio community event.

My host, she was looking hot in her ceremonial red and white. She pointed out the Bingo prizes, sandwiched between the blenders and perfumes gifts was a "30-minute massage. " She leaned in and whispered that if I won, I'd the get the Massagem Preta treatment from her personally.

Bingo!! I wasn't taking any chances. I bought a deep mofo stack of 20 cartelas (bingo cards) When the caller hit my last number for the Bingo de Ouro, gold bingo cards more expensive I shouted loud enough for the whole Barraco to hear.

Because she's a Filha de Santo, she had the access to the place including the upper room above where the samba music is played. She led me to a private area in the upstairs quarters of the Terreiro.

Its was a private. Massage table, ritual oils, and the sound of the samba party, downstairs. Scene right out of netflix os donos do jogo " rulers of fortune".

The "massage" was just the starter. Being in a spiritual space combined with her sexual energy made for a super GFE (Girlfriend Experience) . The BJ felt world class because of the place and her dedication to making a hapoy ending. , who knew brasilisn garotas have sexual bucket lists too. ?? Kk.

Only in brasil a private massage above a Terreiro. Damn might go back every week Rsrs.

A massagem Preta above a Terreiro in a RJ barrio wasn't on my bucket list. But It was on hers!!

Can anyone comment on the age ranges for termas like 4 x 4? I am really into 18-25, certainly don't want to get into anything illegal. Nothing personal, just not into the MILF thing. What about escorts coming to the hotel? Is there a preferred website for that kind of thing in Rio?

[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

Which is a clue as to where the actual Brazilians want to live.

Barra.

Nota bene, the sections for sp.

Any Brazilian who can, including the paulistanos, live in barra.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3066746]Can anyone comment on the age ranges for termas like 4 x 4? I am really into 18-25, certainly don't want to get into anything illegal. Nothing personal, just not into the MILF thing. What about escorts coming to the hotel? Is there a preferred website for that kind of thing in Rio?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3066746]Can anyone comment on the age ranges for termas like 4 x 4? I am really into 18-25, certainly don't want to get into anything illegal. Nothing personal, just not into the MILF thing. What about escorts coming to the hotel? Is there a preferred website for that kind of thing in Rio?[/QUOTE]You will find lots of women 18 to 25 at Termas 4 x 4.

I can't say I have ever encountered a woman at 4 x 4 over 30, but perhaps that's just my experience.

75 minutos.

First round tantric fuk.

Salmon break at 40 min with tartar sauce from zona sul on olegario next to temekaria.

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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3066769][URL]https://barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

Which is a clue as to where the actual Brazilians want to live.

Barra.

Nota bene, the sections for sp.

Any Brazilian who can, including the paulistanos, live in barra.[/QUOTE]No doubt Barra is a lovely area. If I lived in Rio, that's where it would be. However, for a short term visitor, Ipanema, Copacabana, or Botafogo are much better choices.

[QUOTE=Combo;3066897]No doubt Barra is a lovely area. If I lived in Rio, that's where it would be. However, for a short term visitor, Ipanema, Copacabana, or Botafogo are much better choices.[/QUOTE]There's living in Rio. And there's being a tourist in Rio. If you're a tourist who will have a short-term stay, then you're far better off being in locations that are much closer to all the best tourist attractions and things to do. Barra is simply located too far away for that. If you have not been to Rio before, listen to this overwhelming majority advice, and follow it. Because it's correct.

The barravips girls are all up and down olegaruo maciel once you know them.

They charge 500-800 r.

[QUOTE=Combo;3066897]No doubt Barra is a lovely area. If I lived in Rio, that's where it would be. However, for a short term visitor, Ipanema, Copacabana, or Botafogo are much better choices.[/QUOTE]

Barra the most beautiful beach in Brazil.

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=Blg2p6iSfpK0eJ5D[/URL]

[URL]https://barravipsrio.com/[/URL]

This video is right. Barra is the most beautiful beach in Brazil, and the barravips girls are here. They have pasteis at bar do adao on olegario, or at Pineapple, or get beef at Pratica.

Yes, I live here full time, and maybe you should not come here. I like it not just because it is safer (no favelas, whereas in copa you are in the middle of 3), but because the water is clean, and I actually swim and don't like swimming in a toilet.

I also like it due to the much lower density of gringos. Even though I am a gringo, I hate being around gringos.

Yes, the vibe at perola negra and 4 x 4 is way different, but it is the same management. / ownership, and the same girls. I like both. As a carioca, I can do both.

The best negras start at 4 x 4, and when they are 18 you can get them for 400 or 500 pernoite for 4 pops bare before they move on to you, the average tourist with 2 weeks who pays 1500 r because you are pegged to the cost per fuck at scandallo where you pay 400 entrance so the landscaping resembles barra. The same girls at least the loiras like Penelope are at perola negra, like Penelope, but the vibe is different because it is less mr. Catra funk than capital inicial. Punch those into youtube and come and see for yourself.

There are prives, [URL]prismabarra.com.br[/URL] in the downtown shopping center wehre I go on legit non pro dates with age appropriate surfer girl friends.

But yea, by all means, most of you stay away. Pro tip, if you do stay in zona sul, choose botafogo.

Anyway, I had a regular prive girl over for the afternoon for 110 minutes of fucking.

300/110 for cost per fuck per minute annualized of like 2. 9 ish. Not counting uber or sushi, which I like, and I like the company of a freshly fucked hoar who likes sushi and me, and I rode the uber at least part of the legs, so. I joke around, but I say I do this for a living, but actually, as a retired SWISS NAVY lieutenant commander, my pay grade, I actually do. I do other stuff, like take college girls to surf inns to watch spy lesbian sex movies like lioness, seasons 1 and 2 out of my commitment to the good of humanity, and for the shocked, shocked expression of the 20 year old staff at my social validation from the cool young coed from my country, it get kicked out by French feminazi age appropriate gynofaciest kunts but that is the price of being bukowski.

Can anyone comment on the talent level in 4 x 4 recently? I had a great time the last time I went but the talent, looks wise, wasn't as good as previous visits.

[QUOTE=Combo;3066897]No doubt Barra is a lovely area. If I lived in Rio, that's where it would be. However, for a short term visitor, Ipanema, Copacabana, or Botafogo are much better choices.[/QUOTE]I stayed out there my last trip, and outside of being convenient to meet Vagabundo and potential clients a couple times, it was a pain in the ass. First, the talent at Perola Negra, Paris Cafe, and online was not great. Second, it was that much more costly to get my backup favoritas from Copa / Ipanema to come. Third, going into the Termas in Copacabana or the Centro was a 45 minute chore each way. Last, it didn't have the all out fun vibe of Copa or Ipanema. On a positive note, it was safer and there were some nice restaurants.

[QUOTE=Combo;3066897]No doubt Barra is a lovely area. If I lived in Rio, that's where it would be. However, for a short term visitor, Ipanema, Copacabana, or Botafogo are much better choices.[/QUOTE]Last time I stayed in Ipanema, on the border with Copacabana. It is a nicer beach during the day, but almost dead after 10 pm. No any people on the boardwalk. On the other hand, on Copacabana, there are people, beach cafes with live music, and people wondering around, until 2 am. So, next time I will rent in the middle of Copa. Maybe it is noisier and dirtier, but for the night mongering lifestyle is much more convenient.

It is 18 minutes on the metro from barra to Ipanema.

If you live here, like for example, the best porn director mambo perv, security dictates barra near the metro.

The entire economy in Rio de janeiro is centered on fucking gringos somehow, even the sophisticated. I could tell stories.

Ask the girls. Many of the hottest talent in 4 x4 etc live in barra / recreio if they can.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3067191]The entire economy in Rio de janeiro is centered on fucking gringos somehow, even the sophisticated. I could tell stories.[/QUOTE]That's life in the 2020's. The planet has gotten a lot smaller for gringos.

You name a desirable place to visit and you will find many of them.

Nah Vagabundo is right. I'd rather be in Malibu than Santa Monica. Sure its a little further but the diff is night and day. Plenty to do on Olegario MAciel.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3067129]Last time I stayed in Ipanema, on the border with Copacabana. It is a nicer beach during the day, but almost dead after 10 pm. No any people on the boardwalk. On the other hand, on Copacabana, there are people, beach cafes with live music, and people wondering around, until 2 am. So, next time I will rent in the middle of Copa. Maybe it is noisier and dirtier, but for the night mongering lifestyle is much more convenient.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3067457]Nah Vagabundo is right. I'd rather be in Malibu than Santa Monica. Sure its a little further but the diff is night and day. Plenty to do on Olegario MAciel.[/QUOTE]I didn't know there were affordable hoors in either Malibu or Santa Monica. I would take Barra over both of those LOL!

Yep, there it is.

Olegario maciel 7 is na brasa columbia.

Perola negra is ave de pepe 400.

Olegario maciel 373 is temekaria sushi, all you can eat for 150 r.

[URL]barravipsrio.com[/URL] is the girls who live here.

Chicago85 should by his class really be living at grand Hyatt barra, where the actress Isadora Cruz lives in the residence. Take a shot at her at breakfast, get shot down in front of all the Colombian dimes with their FIFA athlete boyfriends, just like Vagabundo did, twice. She obviously doesn't know what she is missing.

Many of the barravips girls live at av das americas 7897, where vagabundo did, but the wi fi sucks, and they lived at Transamerica, av gastao senges 395, where they kicked vagabundo out on the pretense of fucking on the balcony, but actually it was just that they wanted to Airbnb vagabundo's love nest, the greedy scum.

I had in fact been fucking on the balcony for years, getting some girls pregnant, at which point I changed my number on WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3067457]Nah Vagabundo is right. I'd rather be in Malibu than Santa Monica. Sure its a little further but the diff is night and day. Plenty to do on Olegario MAciel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3067593]I had in fact been fucking on the balcony for years, getting some girls pregnant, at which point I changed my number on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]What a stand up kind of guy!

Sometimes 4 at a time in reverse gangbangs starting in the pool which I video taped with a gopro with a scuba housing.

They can try to track me by my CPF PM A, which is.

Cost per fuck.

Which is negative, since I am a go go boy, whom the girls pay me to fuck.

But on the upside, all the kids go to school on the dime of the government of Switzerland and the dime of Gavin Newsom, that faggot!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3067672]What a stand up kind of guy![/QUOTE]

No porn star quality girls for 60 dollars for 120 minutes.

Which is why men come to Rio and stay.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3067533]I didn't know there were affordable hoors in either Malibu or Santa Monica. I would take Barra over both of those LOL![/QUOTE]

But I have also gotten girls out of prostitution.

You can't lose your humanity in this life.

That said, I actually have lived in Rio for 2200 days. When reading these posts, the reader should ask, how many days per year has the writer lived in Rio this year? The A in CPF PM A USD.

Cost per fuck.

Per minute.

Annualized.

USD.

Someone will appreciate the large language model made by Rabbi Vagabundo's writings, iike the dead sea scrolls, until then, I plan to go fuck a brazilian pussy for a full 50 minutes out of an hour today.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3067675]Sometimes 4 at a time in reverse gangbangs starting in the pool which I video taped with a gopro with a scuba housing.

They can try to track me by my CPF PM A, which is.

Cost per fuck.

Which is negative, since I am a go go boy, whom the girls pay me to fuck.

But on the upside, all the kids go to school on the dime of the government of Switzerland and the dime of Gavin Newsom, that faggot![/QUOTE]

Anyone know how the termas are on Mondays? I know Tuesday-Thursday are the best days but curious how Mondays look.

Recently was in Rio and wanted to pass on some practical travel tips and other info that may be useful.

SIM card: I bought a TIM prepaid card from a news kiosk, and activated it by dialing *144, and then selecting option 3 for the English speaking operator. I gave my passport number and some other info, and the line was activated instantaneously. I paid R35 for the SIM card, and it came with 16 GB of data, which was still pretty much untouched by the time I left. (I later noticed signs saying the TIM plan was R30, so the kiosk guy may have made a R5 profit, but it was my first day, I was jet-lagged, and in a hurry to get the phone set up, so I'm not going to sweat that dollar.) I actually had gone to the trouble of getting a CPF from the Brazilian consulate but it didn't work for activation of the SIM for some reason, which is why I used the *144 line.

Metro: You can now pay for Metro rides with tap-to-pay on your Mastercard / Visa. I had an old MetroRio card from a previous trip and loaded that initially, but then there doesn't seem to be any discount for adding stored value, so later on in my stay, I just tapped my credit card.

Building Access to Prives in Centro: Still no ID check at Rio Branco 185 (Bel Prazer and others), nor at Siete de Setembre 55 (home of Day Relax formerly Dark Room). Rio Branco 156 {Dudas, Onyx, a ton of others) uses facial recognition cameras, where they ask for ID and take a photo of you on your first registration. I used an expired drivers license as my ID. If you have concerns about your face being uploaded into some cloud somewhere, this might be an issue at 156. It still blows my mind that the prives and independents operate out of the same office tower as random lawyers, doctors, and other "legit" businesses. You only have to specify the floor you're going to, so if you can identify some other business on that floor for future visits, I guess you can have some plausible deniability about why you were there.

Pricing at the Prives: By the time I left, inflation seemed to be affecting the casas. Besides Day Relax, most were offering R120/20 minutes, R150/40 minutes, R200/60 minutes. That was true for Centro and Tijuca.

GPArena: I found this site to be the most up-to-date and useful for independents. Wound up meeting a couple of VIP independents with great reviews for repeat unrushed sessions at better values than the prives. Funnily enough, the two of them worked independently, but turned out to sublet the same apartment in Rio Branco 156! Marcela Kasada and Dandara Barros if you wanted to look them up.

Random observation: The receptionist at Anne's in Tijuca just might be the friendliest receptionist I've ever run into in places like that. He shook my hand vigorously when I popped in, and the last time I was there a couple of years ago, he gave me a fist-bump.

[QUOTE=Novio;3067828]

Building Access to Prives in Centro: Still no ID check at Rio Branco 185 (Bel Prazer and others), nor at Siete de Setembre 55 (home of Day Relax formerly Dark Room). Rio Branco 156 {Dudas, Onyx, a ton of others) uses facial recognition cameras, where they ask for ID and take a photo of you on your first registration. I used an expired drivers license as my ID. If you have concerns about your face being uploaded into some cloud somewhere, this might be an issue at 156. It still blows my mind that the prives and independents operate out of the same office tower as random lawyers, doctors, and other "legit" businesses. You only have to specify the floor you're going to, so if you can identify some other business on that floor for future visits, I guess you can have some plausible deniability about why you were there.

Pricing at the Prives: By the time I left, inflation seemed to be affecting the casas. Besides Day Relax, most were offering R120/20 minutes, R150/40 minutes, R200/60 minutes. That was true for Centro and Tijuca.

[/QUOTE]At last some meaningful information. Last few pages were some exhausting chatter. No offense to the old timers here.

Just needed some pointers and this helps.

My addition to the intel coming soon. !

There actually is a av Malibu in barra, which is where many of the top barravipsrio girls stay. Look up av das americas 7897 and across the street, the av Malibu. Many of the pros stay in that complex.

The swimming pool is triangular.

There is a nice boat to the beach. This is the better area. Nearby, the condo novo leblon is top tier, has its own bus to centro, which is key.

Further out, there is condo barra bali, which too, has its own centro bus, wherein one can sleep, chill, and generally enjoy the buzz from your fav centro hoars.

[QUOTE=ToastMonger269;3067457]Nah Vagabundo is right. I'd rather be in Malibu than Santa Monica. Sure its a little further but the diff is night and day. Plenty to do on Olegario MAciel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Novio;3067828]Recently was in Rio and wanted to pass on some practical travel tips and other info that may be useful.[/QUOTE]This is an exemplary report. Tips and updates, very useful. Thanks!

[QUOTE=DogLife;3067860]At last some meaningful information. Last few pages were some exhausting chatter. No offense to the old timers here.

Just needed some pointers and this helps.

My addition to the intel coming soon. ![/QUOTE]Yes, it's the same old same old but deciding wear to stay is an important decision for first-timers.

It would be well worth our time if you gave us your assessment on geography. Looking forward to your intel.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3067948]Yes, it's the same old same old but deciding wear to stay is an important decision for first-timers.

It would be well worth our time if you gave us your assessment on geography. Looking forward to your intel.[/QUOTE]Whenever I am in a new territory and not sure how would the game play out, I always stay in the safest part of the town in a relative standard hotel, not too expensive brand names but which have survived the test of time. And then I usually after check-in scout out new more affordable choices once the lay of the land is embedded in my mind.

I look out mainly for proximity of Metro / public transport convenience store etc in the neighborhood.

This time I stayed in Olinda Hotel right on the beach for the first 2 days and then moved towards Cantagalo Station once I got familiar with the area and got inducted to the Centro casas and the commute.

Maybe in the next trip I'll be staying in Centro area because hopefully by end of this trip I'll have the whole mental map of Centro.

Thats the rule I follow. Eg, in Medellin I started off with La 70 Laureles but nowadays Hotel Nutibara in Centro is my goto.

[QUOTE=Novio;3067828]Recently was in Rio and wanted to pass on some practical travel tips and other info that may be useful.

SIM card: I bought a TIM prepaid card from a news kiosk, and activated it by dialing *144, and then selecting option 3 for the English speaking operator. I gave my passport number and some other info, and the line was activated instantaneously. I paid R35 for the SIM card, and it came with 16 GB of data, which was still pretty much untouched by the time I left. (I later noticed signs saying the TIM plan was R30, so the kiosk guy may have made a R5 profit, but it was my first day, I was jet-lagged, and in a hurry to get the phone set up, so I'm not going to sweat that dollar.) I actually had gone to the trouble of getting a CPF from the Brazilian consulate but it didn't work for activation of the SIM for some reason, which is why I used the *144 line.
.[/QUOTE]Good tip on the SIM card. Historically it's been damn near impossible to register without a CPF. For what it's worth I usually get an Airalo eSIM for $8-$12 USD online and this lasts me for 1-2 weeks. In this case you can do it from your phone / laptop and just need a passport (and only first time). Also, pay attention if you're just getting data, or data + voice. You need voice if you want to keep your Brazil phone #. A Brazil phone # can help with chica negotiations.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3068009]Good tip on the SIM card. Historically it's been damn near impossible to register without a CPF. For what it's worth I usually get an Airalo eSIM for $8-$12 USD online and this lasts me for 1-2 weeks. In this case you can do it from your phone / laptop and just need a passport (and only first time). Also, pay attention if you're just getting data, or data + voice. You need voice if you want to keep your Brazil phone #. A Brazil phone # can help with chica negotiations.[/QUOTE]I've had to learn the hard way as I bought one from a news stand and was told it was not valid. Here is what I did to get one activated.

1. Go to a provider. In my example, I went to Claro store and ask a CSR. They said I had to buy a prepaid at a Pharmacy in the mall.

2. Purchased the SIM and returned to the Claro CSR.

3. Have them activate it with my Passport ID.

4. Paid for extra data.

I was able to use my new number with no issues. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=DogLife;3068003]<<<Whenever I am in a new territory and not sure how would the game play out, I always stay in the safest part of the town>>>

<<<This time I stayed in Olinda Hotel right on the beach for the first 2 days and then moved towards Cantagalo Station>>>

<<<Maybe in the next trip I'll be staying in Centro area because hopefully by end of this trip I'll have the whole mental map of Centro.[/QUOTE]By this logic you should've stayed in Barra because it's the safest part of Rio. Copacabana, on the other hand, is the gringo mugging ground zero.

Staying in Barra, however, would've put you at a serious disadvantage as a first-time visitor since most prives, termas, and tourist points of interest would've been far, far away.

Which is why you did well staying in Copa despite violating your own core principle, LOL.

On a more serious note, I don't recommend staying in Centro. That's seriously more dangerous at night, and I just don't see the appeal unless you want to pack as many prives in your daily routine as humanly possible. That said, I've stayed in Centro and lived to tell the tale. Certainly doable.

[QUOTE=DogLife;3068003]Whenever I am in a new territory and not sure how would the game play out, I always stay in the safest part of the town in a relative standard hotel, not too expensive brand names but which have survived the test of time. And then I usually after check-in scout out new more affordable choices once the lay of the land is embedded in my mind.

I look out mainly for proximity of Metro / public transport convenience store etc in the neighborhood.

This time I stayed in Olinda Hotel right on the beach for the first 2 days and then moved towards Cantagalo Station once I got familiar with the area and got inducted to the Centro casas and the commute.

Maybe in the next trip I'll be staying in Centro area because hopefully by end of this trip I'll have the whole mental map of Centro.

Thats the rule I follow. Eg, in Medellin I started off with La 70 Laureles but nowadays Hotel Nutibara in Centro is my goto.[/QUOTE]I much preferred staying at the south end of Copa at the border with Ipanema. Even if I didn't like my Airbnb that much, next time I'll probably stay at one of the hotels in that area. Although it's a 25 minute walk to the Copa prives, my time at these venues was small compared to all my time when I wasn't sessioning. From the south end there, I was able to easily walk to the Flintstones beach gym, watch the sunset, minutes from General Osario Metro station which was my go to stop and since I'm not a late night party guy like many of you are, I enjoyed my early morning fitness walks along Ipanema Beach which was a very different uncrowded vibe compared to the beaches later on in the day. This area was just cleaner than most of Copa which I appreciated when I wasn't mongering.

[QUOTE=DogLife;3068003]Whenever I am in a new territory and not sure how would the game play out, I always stay in the safest part of the town in a relative standard hotel, not too expensive brand names but which have survived the test of time. And then I usually after check-in scout out new more affordable choices once the lay of the land is embedded in my mind.

I look out mainly for proximity of Metro / public transport convenience store etc in the neighborhood.

This time I stayed in Olinda Hotel right on the beach for the first 2 days and then moved towards Cantagalo Station once I got familiar with the area and got inducted to the Centro casas and the commute.

Maybe in the next trip I'll be staying in Centro area because hopefully by end of this trip I'll have the whole mental map of Centro.[/QUOTE]That's a solid take.

I think a lot if us like to be near the beach. I do enjoy the urban bikini spectacle that is Rio.

For what it's worth, I think the Cantagalo station area is good for exploring both Copa and Ipanema. I think newcomers will appreciate staying near the point which in this case forms somewhat of a V shape. I like a nice walk into Ipanema and further into Leblon. Ipanema Beach has a different clientele than Copa. I am not going to say one is better than the other.

I am always curious to see how people enjoy staying in Centro. You will definitely see a different perhaps more real side to the city.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3068011]I've had to learn the hard way as I bought one from a news stand and was told it was not valid. Here is what I did to get one activated.

1. Go to a provider. In my example, I went to Claro store and ask a CSR. They said I had to buy a prepaid at a Pharmacy in the mall.

2. Purchased the SIM and returned to the Claro CSR.

3. Have them activate it with my Passport ID.

4. Paid for extra data.

I was able to use my new number with no issues. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I just bought refurbished phone on backmatrket site (make sure it supports esim) and Brazilian esim on airlao site.

Activate it upon arrival. I install and setup uber and whatsup back in home on WiFi, so it was ready to use immediately.

BTW, I have tmobile international plan, but it barely works in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068074]I much preferred staying at the south end of Copa at the border with Ipanema. Even if I didn't like my Airbnb that much, next time I'll probably stay at one of the hotels in that area. Although it's a 25 minute walk to the Copa prives, my time at these venues was small compared to all my time when I wasn't sessioning. From the south end there, I was able to easily walk to the Flintstones beach gym, watch the sunset, minutes from General Osario Metro station which was my go to stop and since I'm not a late night party guy like many of you are, I enjoyed my early morning fitness walks along Ipanema Beach which was a very different uncrowded vibe compared to the beaches later on in the day. This area was just cleaner than most of Copa which I appreciated when I wasn't mongering.[/QUOTE]Hey this makes a lot of sense. Short walk to Centaurus also. Worth considering on my next trip to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3068105]I just bought refurbished phone on backmatrket site (make sure it supports esim) and Brazilian esim on airlao site.

Activate it upon arrival. I install and setup uber and whatsup back in home on WiFi, so it was ready to use immediately.

BTW, I have T-Mobile international plan, but it barely works in Brazil.[/QUOTE]I am bringing a burner as well and use that for my activities. I've used Google Fi (GFi) on all my travels and it has worked decently. Not the best in some countries due to their infrastructures but Never a NO Service there. I believe GFi is mainly supported by T-Mobile for from what I know but I do believe because of GF, it will switch to a partner carrier.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3068105]I just bought refurbished phone on backmatrket site (make sure it supports esim) and Brazilian esim on airlao site.

Activate it upon arrival. I install and setup uber and whatsup back in home on WiFi, so it was ready to use immediately.

BTW, I have tmobile international plan, but it barely works in Brazil.[/QUOTE]On past trips to Brazil I would rate T-mobile international a Cee+ due to occasionally slow speeds, but on my current trip it is working really well, and I give it an A minus with very few connection or speed issues. Go figure. T-Mobile now works good in SP. No need to buy an e-sim anymore, unless you want to.

Brazilian number better than rich world number.

Anon Brazilian number even better (assuming airlo tied to credit card).

Uncle d0 n just declared cv and pcc terr0 rist organizations, and they do backtrace to extort targets.

Look twice.

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Every piece of tail you bang could be sucking all your data while she is sucking out your sperm, and since vagabundos each are worth a full free ride at University of Switzerland Lugano, that's like a million pounds of gold per week I am pumping into the kunts of Rio's women, now where are the rich ones, so we can replicate the rotchild line for my own world full of pipe hitting redneck israeli killers -- or muslim slave traders (if you are PCC or CV and you are somehow able to slip a catheter into the pisshole of the admin of this site to extract my PII).

Hmm.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3068192]On past trips to Brazil I would rate T-mobile international a Cee+ due to occasionally slow speeds, but on my current trip it is working really well, and I give it an A minus with very few connection or speed issues. Go figure. T-Mobile now works good in SP. No need to buy an e-sim anymore, unless you want to.[/QUOTE]

Recently returned from a trip to SP and Rio. In Rio, I made stops at Perola Negra, 4 x4, Eden Spa, Montecarlo, marrakech, kalabria, Solarium, Centaurus, and few prives in Centro. Best time was a 3-some at Casanarus. I will pass on MonteCarlo going fwd, 2nd visit there and I wasn't impressed. I was pleasantly surprised at Kalabria late night. Also, I stopped at Dolce vita a couple times, but the talent pool was lacking compared to prior visits to Rio. In all can't complain and will be back at the end of the year.

[QUOTE=Fouche;3068605]Recently returned from a trip to SP and Rio. In Rio, I made stops at Perola Negra, 4 x4, Eden Spa, Montecarlo, marrakech, kalabria, Solarium, Centaurus, and few prives in Centro. Best time was a 3-some at Casanarus. I will pass on MonteCarlo going fwd, 2nd visit there and I wasn't impressed. I was pleasantly surprised at Kalabria late night. Also, I stopped at Dolce vita a couple times, but the talent pool was lacking compared to prior visits to Rio. In all can't complain and will be back at the end of the year.[/QUOTE]When I was in Rio, I did only prives plus one visit to 4 x4. For my limited experience, the one 4 x4 session was not better than the ones I had at the prives. Since you did all the main termas as well as quite a few prives, would you say that the quality of ladies and sessions with them at the termas were way better than what you experienced in the prives despite the higher termas costs?

Hence get numbers at termas, and meet mongers to enjoy being a primate with a penis among primates with pussies that all are available to you.

I had some questions about foz do iguacu. Hit me up by PM if possible.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068635]When I was in Rio, I did only prives plus one visit to 4 x4. For my limited experience, the one 4 x4 session was not better than the ones I had at the prives. Since you did all the main termas as well as quite a few prives, would you say that the quality of ladies and sessions with them at the termas were way better than what you experienced in the prives despite the hig
her termas costs?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3068639]Hence get numbers at termas, and meet mongers to enjoy being a primate with a penis among primates with pussies that all are available to you.

I had some questions about foz do iguacu. Hit me up by PM if possible.[/QUOTE]I did not monger at all at Foz do Iguazu. From what I know, there is one single nightclub called Boate Crystal and read that it's expensive and not well attended so I didn't even bother. There might be some action over the border in Paraguay but again I didn't bother walking over. Foz was just a 3 night break in between Rio and Sao Paulo to catch the falls from both the Brazil and Argentina sides. Otherwise Foz is a very nice little, uncrowded town which was a pleasant break from the two bigger cities.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068741]There might be some action over the border in Paraguay but again I didn't bother walking over.[/QUOTE]The only action over there is flies, mosquitoes, and duty free shopping.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068635]When I was in Rio, I did only prives plus one visit to 4 x4. For my limited experience, the one 4 x4 session was not better than the ones I had at the prives. Since you did all the main termas as well as quite a few prives, would you say that the quality of ladies and sessions with them at the termas were way better than what you experienced in the prives despite the higher termas costs?[/QUOTE]If a guy (me) wanted to have one evening at 4 x 4 or any termas, what is a ball park amount you would bring? Are all ladies equal on pricing? I would be using cash if that matters.

Thanks fellas.

600 r for an hour including entrada and drinks.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3068908]If a guy (me) wanted to have one evening at 4 x 4 or any termas, what is a ball park amount you would bring? Are all ladies equal on pricing? I would be using cash if that matters.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3068908]If a guy (me) wanted to have one evening at 4 x 4 or any termas, what is a ball park amount you would bring? Are all ladies equal on pricing? I would be using cash if that matters.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]You can find the detail in the forum, but all girl pricing is equal. Probably 800-1000 r depending on how much you drink and what room you get, should be fine.

Hello,

I'm planning to come to Rio.

Been to Medellin and wanted to understand how things work in Rio.

In Medellin they have casas (day time, girls present themselves to you, usually one by one) and nightclubs (girls mingle with you in a bar like environment).

In both cases you pay the establishment and take them to a private room.

I'm wondering how things work in Rio?

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3068908]If a guy (me) wanted to have one evening at 4 x 4 or any termas, what is a ball park amount you would bring? Are all ladies equal on pricing? I would be using cash if that matters.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]In 4 x4 king room for 90 minutes was around 850 (girl plus room).

Regular room for one hour was something like 500-600.

Be prepared, that shower is in VERY BAD SHAPE.

Sometimes, temperature regulated by the switch on the shower head heater.

For some reason, it is a common problem in Brazil hourly establishments.

[QUOTE=Nottymrme;3068940]Hello,

I'm planning to come to Rio.

Been to Medellin and wanted to understand how things work in Rio.

In Medellin they have casas (day time, girls present themselves to you, usually one by one) and nightclubs (girls mingle with you in a bar like environment).

In both cases you pay the establishment and take them to a private room.

I'm wondering how things work in Rio?[/QUOTE]Same. The Rio equivalent to casas are called prives. Nightclubs with rooms are the termas.

Guys,

How would you say Rio compare to Sao Paulo in mongering experience.

Was in Sao Paulo some year ago and I had a blast (Casarao and Scand).

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3069020]Same. The Rio equivalent to casas are called prives. Nightclubs with rooms are the termas.[/QUOTE]What are boates? What are clinicas?

Termas are most expensive. Prives are cheapest. Where do boates and clinicas fit in?

Which is best city for prives? Sao Paulo or Rio?

I have never read anything about street girls so I assume they do not exist or are too few women, too old, too fat, too crazy.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;3068164]I am bringing a burner as well and use that for my activities. I've used Google Fi (GFi) on all my travels and it has worked decently. Not the best in some countries due to their infrastructures but Never a NO Service there. I believe GFi is mainly supported by T-Mobile for from what I know but I do believe because of GF, it will switch to a partner carrier.[/QUOTE]I used Google Fi on my last trip to SP and it worked flawlessly. Coming from the USA Your number needs to be activated prior to your trip, I believe. Google Fi works best with a google phone, my burner is a pixel 7 I've never had issues abroad. I only travel a few times a year and this is the least time consuming & convenient set up for me personally.

[quote=loveithere69;3069139]what are boates? What are clinicas?

Termas are most expensive. Prives are cheapest. Where do boates and clinicas fit in?

Which is best city for prives? Sao paulo or rio?

I have never read anything about street girls so i assume they do not exist or are too few women, too old, too fat, too crazy.[/quote]

"gify" "jfgi"

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3069139]What are boates? What are clinicas?

Termas are most expensive. Prives are cheapest. Where do boates and clinicas fit in?

Which is best city for prives? Sao Paulo or Rio?

I have never read anything about street girls so I assume they do not exist or are too few women, too old, too fat, too crazy.[/QUOTE]Clinicas (in SP) = prives (in Rio).

Boates (usually referred to in SP) = nightclubs.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3069123]Guys,

How would you say Rio compare to Sao Paulo in mongering experience.

Was in Sao Paulo some year ago and I had a blast (Casarao and Scand).[/QUOTE]I can only compare the SP clinicas with Rio prives and I liked the clinicas more because their rooms are much bigger, nicer and have ensuite bathrooms where some of the Rio prives do not as showers are at a common hallway. So for pure mongering I would put SP ahead of Rio but for time in between sessions, there are more touristy things in Rio and natural scenery is better. This may or may not factor into each guy's experience in each location.

Thanks man appreciate it.

4 x 4 is a little Simular to Casarao? If not Is there anything like Casarao in Rio.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3069211]I can only compare the SP clinicas with Rio prives and I liked the clinicas more because their rooms are much bigger, nicer and have ensuite bathrooms where some of the Rio prives do not as showers are at a common hallway. So for pure mongering I would put SP ahead of Rio but for time in between sessions, there are more touristy things in Rio and natural scenery is better. This may or may not factor into each guy's experience in each location.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3068635]When I was in Rio, I did only prives plus one visit to 4 x4. For my limited experience, the one 4 x4 session was not better than the ones I had at the prives. Since you did all the main termas as well as quite a few prives, would you say that the quality of ladies and sessions with them at the termas were way better than what you experienced in the prives despite the higher termas costs?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say the termas were way better, but the overall quality was definitely higher. Plus, you got a chance to get a feel of your selection (s) their vibe, how much touchy / feely you can do, and their level of safada-ness before deciding if you wanted to consummate matters.

[QUOTE=BusinessTravl;3069218]Thanks man appreciate it.

4 x 4 is a little Simular to Casarao? If not Is there anything like Casarao in Rio.[/QUOTE]As you remember, at Casarao's I think the girls are independent and generally wearing dresses while you keep your cloths on. It's a late night place (picks up around midnight) and you buy a drink, negotiate a price and services, then go next door or pay a fee to take them to your hotel. At 4 x4 and other termas, the girls work there and their dress leave a lot less to the imagination, as they are basically wearing lingerie while you are probably naked underneath a threadbare robe. Termas are open from the afternoon (picks up around maybe 5 PM) and into the night, the fees are set and posted at the front, you should probably negotiate your services, then you take her / them upstairs and I believe you can take them to your hotel for more money. From my fuzzy 2025 memory, the price of service is roughly the same if you negotiate appropriately between Casarao's and 4 x4.

IMHO, Sao Paulo has more classy clubs like Scandallo, Bomboa, Gaugin, Cafe Photo. YMMV, but I think bad experiences at Scandallo are rare, but it's more expensive than anything I found in Rio. Excellent massage places are plentiful in Moema and all over town and there are countless independents online available with a wide price range, especially if you include Meu Patrocinio. If you are looking for SW, the street (R. Augusta) outside Casarao's has them, but the neighborhood is really sketchy. Love hotels are more plentiful in Sao Paulo. 99 and Uber are the easiest ways to get around even though traffic sucks.

IMHO, Rio is about termas, but there are plenty of decent massage places and independents. In 3 trips to Rio and 1 to Sao Paulo, I found more girls spoke English in Rio than Sao Paulo. As far as clubs, I've only been to Dolce Vita in Rio and it does not compare to the high end clubs in Sao Paulo. Ask a more senior member about Mosaico and Perola Negra. Love hotels are more widely distributed and some far out. 99 and Uber are the easiest way to get around, but traffic sucks and I found the subway very useful.

Try checking the local boards, the one that is most active and helpful for Sao Paulo and the one that is most active for Rio are different. The local Sao Paulo board is easier to use and you can google translate all the posts by clicking translate up top. In 2025, you could not do the same with the Rio board and you have to copy and paste. As far as women, there are beautiful women and a wide variety of experiences in both cities.

It is my understanding that Boates are bar / restaurants / night clubs, Clinicas are massage joints useful for day game, Termas are bathhouses / saunas / strip clubs, Prives are useful for day game generally less expensive and a bit trashier and all are places you can have sex, which is about all I need to know.

I went with a girl I picked up from a moema prive / clinica to casarao. It was fun, all the activity on rua Augusta. She wanted to compare her pricing to those in casarao.

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3069284]As you remember, at Casarao's I think the girls are independent and generally wearing dresses while you keep your cloths on. It's a late night place (picks up around midnight) and you buy a drink, negotiate a price and services, then go next door or pay a fee to take them to your hotel. At 4 x4 and other termas, the girls work there and their dress leave a lot less to the imagination, as they are basically wearing lingerie while you are probably naked underneath a threadbare robe. Termas are open from the afternoon (picks up around maybe 5 PM) and into the night, the fees are set and posted at the front, you should probably negotiate your services, then you take her / them upstairs and I believe you can take them to your hotel for more money. From my fuzzy 2025 memory, the price of service is roughly the same if you negotiate appropriately between Casarao's and 4 x4..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EasyIslandLife;3069284]Termas are open from the afternoon (picks up around maybe 5 PM) and into the night, the fees are set and posted at the front, you should probably negotiate your services, then you take her / them upstairs and I believe you can take them to your hotel for more money.[/QUOTE]I would add things start to die down at a termas much earlier than Sao Paulo boates (nightclubs) like Casarao and Scandallo. Particularly with 4 x 4, I would get there at 5 pm or so. Get the lay of the land, have a drink and chat up the talent. However when you feel it with a termas girl, strike while the iron is hot. Sometimes I tell the girl, I am taking her upstairs in a few minutes. That tells them they are not wasting their time. Foreign tourists are generally viewed as a sure thing not a guy looking to drink and grab ass.

Now I did have a hot girl at Monte Carlo tell me she was leaving our nice chat to find a score. I told her I just sat down and I was not ready to go upstairs. She never did find another score, but it was a slow night. I eventually had a nice session with her. For what it's worth, termas 4 x 4 is a lot more fun for hanging around and relaxing than other Rio termas.

A guy might session at a termas and later head to the pick-up nightclubs on the north end of Copa.

Or you could do centro or copa prives, and go to 4 x 4 to socialize, grab ass, and get numbers for overnights.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3069340]I would add things start to die down at a termas much earlier than Sao Paulo boates (nightclubs) like Casarao and Scandallo. Particularly with 4 x 4, I would get there at 5 pm or so. Get the lay of the land, have a drink and chat up the talent. However when you feel it with a termas girl, strike while the iron is hot. Sometimes I tell the girl, I am taking her upstairs in a few minutes. That tells them they are not wasting their time. Foreign tourists are generally viewed as a sure thing not a guy looking to drink and grab ass.

Now I did have a hot girl at Monte Carlo tell me she was leaving our nice chat to find a score. I told her I just sat down and I was not ready to go upstairs. She never did find another score, but it was a slow night. I eventually had a nice session with her. For what it's worth, termas 4 x 4 is a lot more fun for hanging around and relaxing than other Rio termas.

A guy might session at a termas and later head to the pick-up nightclubs on the north end of Copa.[/QUOTE]

Is kissing something that is common? And you guys do it? I always try to play safe, but kissing a young hottie would be nice if it's safe.

Thanks fellas.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3069524]Is kissing something that is common? And you guys do it? I always try to play safe, but kissing a young hottie would be nice if it's safe.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Kissing period is what Brazil is known for. My Brazilian girlfriends get mad because I am not a big kisser. Maybe if I am fucking, but what the hell am I kissing without fucking for? That is like going outside, turning on your car, revving up the engine, then turning it off and going back inside. For what?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3069570]Kissing period is what Brazil is known for.[/QUOTE]I thought it was anal. [B]Aahahaha[/B]! I have a buddy who doesn't like to kiss on tutes because he sees it as a sign of weakness to show such "emotional connection" with a hoor.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3069524]Is kissing something that is common? And you guys do it? I always try to play safe, but kissing a young hottie would be nice if it's safe.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Brazilian women love to kiss. I remember in I think 2009 going to a (non-pro) club in Barra where 2 girls just started making out with me. Fun but sort of a tease as that was all they seemed to want.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3069524]Is kissing something that is common? And you guys do it? I always try to play safe, but kissing a young hottie would be nice if it's safe.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. If she doesn't give you a tongue tonsillectomy before going to the room, pass and move to the next one.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3069340]
A guy might session at a termas and later head to the pick-up nightclubs on the north end of Copa.[/QUOTE]What are some of these pick-up nightclubs?

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3069844]What are some of these pick-up nightclubs?[/QUOTE]They have all been discussed here ad nauseum. Mabs (pick-up restaurant), Doce Vita, Barbarela, Casablanca, It seems the one that was on Princesa Isabel has turned into a gay bar.

I'm here now, first visit. I was uncertain as to what to anticipate based on prior posts.

Guests are greeted by reception where it's explained:

1) key with a number to track expenses.

2) dress code amounting to "wear whatever you want" (sic).

3) menu listing rooms based on class starting from R500; fee includes room and "date".

4) directions to a locker room, a narrow space from reception with half meter lockers.

5) door leading to what amounts to their lounge with a small standing bar.

The lounge is a space similar to any dive bar in Europe or North America. The green national flags adds to the unintended Irish bar impression.

Nearly every guest with one exception opted for the robe uniform; a thin cheap towel stitched as a robe with small pockets.

I estimate there are exactly a dozen standing women and another half with men seated along the typical padded bench. All in bikinis or underwear. Prior lingerie characterizations are a stretch.

Imagine Irish dive bar with women in plain underwear and bikinis.

The women are not aggressive or pushy, music is present but not loud. It's laid back unlike the club impression I expected based on other posts.

Talent ranges from one petite girl, a third obviously in love with heavy Brasilian buffets, and everything in between. Havent seen any stunners. Mostly white, several tan, I do not see the abundance of dark women others described. I like black women as much as any other. Oddly, saving Asian women who are typically a personal disappointment.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3069967]I'm here now, first visit. I was uncertain as to what to anticipate based on prior posts.

.........................................

The talent is ok. The women are not aggressive, music is present but not loud. It's laid back unlike the club impression I expected based on other posts.[/QUOTE]It's very early. I would say the place will pick-up by 6 pm when the local office workers show up. The girls will have more energy when the regulars arrive.

Now every day is different, but it's likely more girls will continue to arrive.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3069967]I'm here now, first visit. I was uncertain as to what to anticipate based on prior posts.

Guests are greeted by reception where it's explained:

1) key with a number to track expenses.

2) dress code amounting to "wear whatever you want" (sic).

3) menu listing rooms based on class starting from R500; fee includes room and "date".

4) directions to a locker room, a narrow space from reception with half meter lockers.

5) door leading to what amounts to their lounge with a small standing bar.

The lounge is a space similar to any dive bar in Europe or North America. The green national flags adds to the unintended Irish bar impression.

Nearly every guest with one exception opted for the robe uniform; a thin cheap towel stitched as a robe with small pockets.

I estimate there are exactly a dozen standing women and another half with men seated along the typical padded bench. All in bikinis or underwear. Prior lingerie characterizations are a stretch.

Imagine Irish dive bar with women in plain underwear and bikinis.

The women are not aggressive or pushy, music is present but not loud. It's laid back unlike the club impression I expected based on other posts.

Talent ranges from one petite girl, a third obviously in love with heavy Brasilian buffets, and everything in between. Havent seen any stunners. Mostly white, several tan, I do not see the abundance of dark women others described. I like black women as much as any other. Oddly, saving Asian women who are typically a personal disappointment.[/QUOTE]I can't comment on the talent as I'm not there but your description of 4 x4 is absolutely the best and most accurate that I have encountered for painting a picture. Irish dive bar with girls in underwear. Yep. That's pretty much the summary! 😂 Can be good fun if you take it for what it's worth and find a hottie in the mix.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3069971]I can't comment on the talent as I'm not there but your description of 4 x4 is absolutely the best and most accurate that I have encountered for painting a picture. Irish dive bar with girls in underwear. Yep. That's pretty much the summary! 😂 Can be good fun if you take it for what it's worth and find a hottie in the mix.[/QUOTE]Or lack thereof! Last time I was there, I found a branca hottie who was taking it in the ass. And she wasn't wearing underwear. She was wearing a Wonder Woman themed bikini. Most of the times I have gone, the girls have been in skimpy bikinis.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3069979]Or lack thereof! Last time I was there, I found a branca hottie who was taking it in the ass. And she wasn't wearing underwear. She was wearing a Wonder Woman themed bikini. Most of the times I have gone, the girls have been in skimpy bikinis.[/QUOTE]Bikini and high heels is still the standard outfit for a termas girl and I love it. Only thing better is the FKKs that have naked with just high heels.

I'd also point out to the OP that 4 X4 can definitely be high energy at times. So many times I've been there and it's pretty quiet and laid back. I take a garota upstairs and when I come back down an hour later, there's a ton of energy with more and different women and the place is poppin.

[QUOTE=Combo;3070008]Bikini and high heels is still the standard outfit for a termas girl and I love it. Only thing better is the FKKs that have naked with just high heels.

I'd also point out to the OP that 4 X4 can definitely be high energy at times. So many times I've been there and it's pretty quiet and laid back. I take a garota upstairs and when I come back down an hour later, there's a ton of energy with more and different women and the place is poppin.[/QUOTE]What exactly does it mean when 4 x4 gets high energy? Simply more people in the room? Louder music? Girls starting to dance? If it's just more people and especially louder, I personally don't think that means it's a better atmosphere.

I've never used this site before, since I always go to termas and don't like surprises and like a safe environment. I'm thinking about giving it a try this trip. Has anyone ever had a problem with visiting a girl at her place? I mean getting robbed or set-up for something. I'm only looking at Verified advertisements. Please let me / us know if this is a problem in Rio (or any other cities for that matter). Thanks in advance for your input.

[QUOTE=Wanderer1000;3070074]I've never used this site before, since I always go to termas and don't like surprises and like a safe environment. I'm thinking about giving it a try this trip. Has anyone ever had a problem with visiting a girl at her place? I mean getting robbed or set-up for something. I'm only looking at Verified advertisements. Please let me / us know if this is a problem in Rio (or any other cities for that matter). Thanks in advance for your input.[/QUOTE]No bad experiences. I use it all the time. You will get surprises though. But I like surprises. Last time the girl looked better than the person whose pictures she was using. And all for the low 100 reais. It was the same building as Eden Spa and all, but you enter it on the other street. Tons of them are in Nossa Senhora 583 and Siquiera Campos 43. One of them I called the chick out because on the ad she had tattoos, but on the whatsapp pic she did not. I never bother about worrying whether it is verified or not. I just add the whatsapp and ask if they are available.

A friend in the rich world said it costs 650 USD dollars for an hour with a hot stripper at a strip club. Holy fuuuuccccckckc. That's why 4 x4, and actually the centro prives and so called trash termas, where you do find actual porn stars working.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3069340]I would add things start to die down at a termas much earlier than Sao Paulo boates (nightclubs) like Casarao and Scandallo. Particularly with 4 x 4, I would get there at 5 pm or so. Get the lay of the land, have a drink and chat up the talent. However when you feel it with a termas girl, strike while the iron is hot. Sometimes I tell the girl, I am taking her upstairs in a few minutes. That tells them they are not wasting their time. Foreign tourists are generally viewed as a sure thing not a guy looking to drink and grab ass.

Now I did have a hot girl at Monte Carlo tell me she was leaving our nice chat to find a score. I told her I just sat down and I was not ready to go upstairs. She never did find another score, but it was a slow night. I eventually had a nice session with her. For what it's worth, termas 4 x 4 is a lot more fun for hanging around and relaxing than other Rio termas.

A guy might session at a termas and later head to the pick-up nightclubs on the north end of Copa.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://youtu.be/Vtr-0r71Q5E?si=vRgQ4ZHQfKJhu2qK[/URL]

Listen to this and watch the lyrics in English.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3070064]What exactly does it mean when 4 x4 gets high energy? Simply more people in the room? Louder music? Girls starting to dance? If it's just more people and especially louder, I personally don't think that means it's a better atmosphere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3070064]What exactly does it mean when 4 x4 gets high energy? Simply more people in the room? Louder music? Girls starting to dance? If it's just more people and especially louder, I personally don't think that means it's a better atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Well I guess energy is somewhat subjective. One tangible indicator would be the garotas dancing and showing off. Beyond that for me is energetic music, which obviously is a matter of taste.

My point was just that all termas vary a lot from hour to hour, day to day, and week to week. I've had times in 4 X4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus, etc where they are loaded with attractive women and the vibe is strong. Then I come back the following day or week and the atmosphere is laid back. And sometimes just an hour makes a big difference.

Totally agree. One of my best go to sites in Brazil. Lots of gems at great prices. If you have time to search, its a trove of spectacular bargains. I have beauties from all over Rio for great prices. I found a 19 yrs old who looked much younger and pettier than her pictures. She lives in Nova Iguacu and comes to visit me for 500 reals for 3 hrs. This includes her transport. I have them come from Benfica, Mier, Bonsucesso, Zona norte.

Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copabacbana seems to be the HQ for putas in Copacabana. My modus operandi is to ask for pictures on Whatsapp to compare. If they refuse, I pass.

So many times I got the address as 583 Av Nossa Senhorde Copacabana and had to ask whether they worked in Eden Spa. In my building there were at least 3 putas working out of there. I told one to come down to the reception, and met her up there.

The funniest shit was when I saw to chicas close to my apartment. One was Gaddem fine with a fat ass. I was trying to chat her up and we got to the entrance of the building and she was like, I can't come into the building. I started laughing and told her I was staying there and she didn't believe me. I was walking in with her and he friend goes to call the porter adn the guys come and shakes my hand and says he lives here. We entered the elevator together and they were kinda embarrassed and apologized. Got the fine girls digit, but she was asking for 1 k reals, so I passed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3070081]No bad experiences. I use it all the time. You will get surprises though. But I like surprises. Last time the girl looked better than the person whose pictures she was using. And all for the low 100 reais. It was the same building as Eden Spa and all, but you enter it on the other street. Tons of them are in Nossa Senhora 583 and Siquiera Campos 43. One of them I called the chick out because on the ad she had tattoos, but on the whatsapp pic she did not. I never bother about worrying whether it is verified or not. I just add the whatsapp and ask if they are available.[/QUOTE]

I finally was able to create an account, so going to recap while my memory is still fresh of my recent trip here.

Some tips before I begin.

Buy a Claro Flex Pass for data. Way better value than airalo with 15-30 day options and huge GB limits. I exclusively use this every time I visit and have had no issues activating it. Only need passport to create an account.

Install 99 for transport. I've been finding it typically cheaper than Uber, more drivers, and it gives the option of taking a Moto too if you want to save / get to your destination faster.

Get a debit card with no fees like Schwab. Lots of termas like Centaurus, Dolce Vita, and Solarium will try to upcharge you if you pay with credit card. Avoid paying 10% or more by withdrawing in advance.

Now on to the report.

This is my fourth time mongering and second time in Brazil, so at this point I already had a game plan.

I landed June 1st and first destination was the good ol' 4 x4. I like visiting this terma because you can use credit card with no fee, and its entrance fee of 60 reals is much less than some of the other places like Centaurus which is 150, so there's not as much pressure to session. If you do end up sessioning before 6 pm, the fee is waived so that's a nice bonus. Though I like to take my time so ended up never using this LOL.

They usually start pole-dancing around 8:30 PM with additional performances if there's a special event.

Here's how you can best enjoy your trip here.

1. Take your time and relax first. Some chicas will go up to you and ask if you want "companhia", but unless you're interested in them just politely say you'd like to be solo for now. They will get the hint.

2. A bit contradictory, but also make sure to be quick if you see a girl that stands out or is new. More often than not if a girl is popular they won't even need to come to you. If you don't want to waste time, make sure to just go for it if you know for sure you'd like to session with them. If you're too pussy to go up to them, the waiter will also be more than happy to call them over for you.

3. Always screen the girls for whatever you're interested in. I am a big fan of DFK (double french kiss) and BBBJ (bare-back blow job) but not all of them will do it for you. Especially if they are new. Ask first so that you won't have your vibe killed when you get into the room.

4. Google translate is your friend. Make sure you know how to say what you want in Portuguese. DFK in portugese is "beijo de lngua. " The more Portuguese you know the more fun you will have in these types of environments.

5. Hygiene is very important. I usually like to shower beforehand so when I shower later when we session I take even less time. I always make an effort to shower again in front of her when we are in the room even if I am already clean, just so they know they aren't going to suck a crusty dick. I also eat mints and brush my teeth. The girls talk, and if your breath stinks you can say goodbye to future DFK!

6. Prices are 370 reals for 30 minutes and 500 for 1 hour. I typically do 30 minutes if it's my first time sessioning with them because that's usually enough time unless you have high endurance or want to go for multiple shots (not guaranteed unless you ask).

Now on to the chicas.

I see a flakita with a classy light blue dress Monday night and call her over. She looks new, so I ask her when she started and she says a month ago. She also tells me that she is from Niteroi. Lots of the girls live pretty far from where they work. I usually start off with these basic questions just to lighten the mood and get a vibe check. If they immediately tell me that they want to take me up to the room I take that as a bad sign.

Anyway, after all the small talk, I ask her if she's into DFK and would do BBBJ. She says yes, but will only do BBBJ if I do an hour with her. I say FK it since I'm horny anyway and my first day landing so I should treat myself. I say yes and we go up to the room.

She turns out to be a great kisser very passionate and doesn't break away even for extended periods of time. She strokes my dick as I make out and I'm feeling over the moon. However, when she starts sucking it turns out she's horrible at giving blowjobs LOL. As she was giving it to me it almost sounded like she was barfing, and I know it wasn't my dick because I washed beforehand so it was probably her strong reflex. After a couple of minutes I just tell her I'm ready for the main event (listo).

We start with doggy and it's great. She kisses me from behind when we are doing it without prompting which was sexy af. I almost want to cum, but I always like to try all the positions before finishing. If you cum too early, you're not able to maximize the enjoyment of seeing the chica in all angles!

We do cowgirl next and I just admire the view of seeing her be-Cups bounce around, and then we finish in missionary as I kiss her lovingly.

We still had a lot of time even with all the position changes, so we do a little more small talk as I ask her about Niteroi. Then we exchange Whatsapp and that was the end of the night. If you like to session on Sunday or are even thinking about seeing them again, I see this as an important step.

Overall 8/10 would definitely session with her again, but sadly after that I didn't see her again for the remainder of the trip.

This was 1st of the 3 sessions I ended up having at 4 x 4 and this one was probably my favorite. As you can tell I am quite a big fan of the place. It doesn't have the hottest chicas, IMO Centaurus has more blondes, but the price and value ratio is more appealing to me.

Prives can be fun too, but generally the chicas will be less hot, some even just straight up old and ugly, and you roll the dice on whether they will do everything for you besides spread their legs, while in the termas you can always screen them beforehand. Will share more of my stories in sections to avoid giant walls of text.

How does the World Cup impact the termas? Are there less girls working at the termas when Brazil or other South America teams are playing because they want to go party and watch it with their friends somewhere else?

Or does it not really have much of an impact?

I haven't visited Brazil in a few years, but because of work I spend a lot of time in Central European cities such as Budapest, Prague, Bucharest, and others.

One thing I've noticed since COVID is the huge increase in the number of Brazilian escorts working across London and Central Europe. A few years ago, they seemed to be a relatively small part of the market. Today, from what I see, they make up a very large share of the London scene and are increasingly present in cities throughout Central Europe.

In my opinion, this has contributed significantly to higher prices. Many Brazilian escorts are charging London-level rates, and in some cases even more than what local providers charge in the cities where they work. As a customer, I don't think the quality always matches the prices being asked.

What frustrates me most is the loss of variety. When I travel to different countries, I want to experience local culture and meet local people. Instead, I often find the same nationality represented across multiple cities. It starts to feel like every market is becoming the same.

Again, this is just my personal observation from travelling frequently for business over the last several years. Others may have had different experiences, but I've definitely noticed a major shift in both pricing and market composition since COVID.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070729]I haven't visited Brazil in a few years, but because of work I spend a lot of time in Central European cities such as Budapest, Prague, Bucharest, and others.

One thing I've noticed since COVID is the huge increase in the number of Brazilian escorts working across London and Central Europe. A few years ago, they seemed to be a relatively small part of the market. Today, from what I see, they make up a very large share of the London scene and are increasingly present in cities throughout Central Europe.

In my opinion, this has contributed significantly to higher prices. Many Brazilian escorts are charging London-level rates, and in some cases even more than what local providers charge in the cities where they work. As a customer, I don't think the quality always matches the prices being asked.

What frustrates me most is the loss of variety. When I travel to different countries, I want to experience local culture and meet local people. Instead, I often find the same nationality represented across multiple cities. It starts to feel like every market is becoming the same.

Again, this is just my personal observation from travelling frequently for business over the last several years. Others may have had different experiences, but I've definitely noticed a major shift in both pricing and market composition since COVID.[/QUOTE]It's not just in London or Central Europe. Not too long ago in Lisbon, a place where of course you're going to encounter a lot of Brazilians, a drop dead gorgeous Brazilian girl had the gall to quote me 700 euros for an hour and a half of "vanilla sex" (see my report for the details). I found that to be an outrageous sum of money for what she was offering and passed. Who the hell in Lisbon, a country where workers earn pretty much the smallest salaries in Western Europe, is paying so much for so little? Well, she said she was visiting from France, so maybe that had something to do with her expectations too. I don't know. I didn't get into "negotiations" with any other girls at that club, so I don't know if her pricing was typical for that particular club, or if it was just her. All I know is that she was barking up the wrong tree with me!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3070752]It's not just in London or Central Europe. Not too long ago in Lisbon, a place where of course you're going to encounter a lot of Brazilians, a drop dead gorgeous Brazilian girl had the gall to quote me 700 euros for an hour and a half of "vanilla sex" (see my report for the details). I found that to be an outrageous sum of money for what she was offering and passed. Who the hell in Lisbon, a country where workers earn pretty much the smallest salaries in Western Europe, is paying so much for so little? Well, she said she was visiting from France, so maybe that had something to do with her expectations too. I don't know. I didn't get into "negotiations" with any other girls at that club, so I don't know if her pricing was typical for that particular club, or if it was just her. All I know is that she was barking up the wrong tree with me![/QUOTE]My vacation is coming up in about two months, and whenever I take this type of trip, I usually visit 3–4 countries, mostly in Central Europe. If I'm back in the USA, then I might choose Brazil instead.

This year, since I'm already in Europe, I was considering Lisbon, Madrid, and Barcelona. Looking at the local economy, Portugal's average salary is relatively low compared to many Western European countries. However, what surprised me was the pricing I found when browsing several escort websites.

I noticed many Brazilian women advertising in Lisbon. The same type of service that might cost around €50–€100 per hour in Rio de Janeiro was being advertised for €200–€250 per hour in Lisbon, with even 30-minute appointments around €150. At first, I thought it was just one website, but after checking several others, I saw similar pricing patterns.

What I find interesting is how dramatically prices change simply because the location changes. The same applies in several Central European cities I've visited, including Prague, Budapest, and Bucharest. There seems to be a very large Brazilian presence in many European markets, and the rates are often two to four times higher than what is commonly charged in Brazil.

From a market perspective, it's fascinating to see how supply, demand, local income levels, tourism, and customer expectations can affect pricing. The service itself may be similar, but the market value changes significantly once people are operating in Europe rather than in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Pokemonger;3070558]I finally was able to create an account, so going to recap while my memory is still fresh of my recent trip here.

Some tips before I begin.

Buy a Claro Flex Pass for data. Way better value than airalo with 15-30 day options and huge GB limits. I exclusively use this every time I visit and have had no issues activating it. Only need passport to create an account.

Install 99 for transport. I've been finding it typically cheaper than Uber, more drivers, and it gives the option of taking a Moto too if you want to save / get to your destination faster.

Get a debit card with no fees like Schwab. Lots of termas like Centaurus, Dolce Vita, and Solarium will try to upcharge you if you pay with credit card. Avoid paying 10% or more by withdrawing in advance.

Now on to the report..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insights from your recent Brazil trip. Not everyone comes back to ISG to report on their experiences.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070729]I haven't visited Brazil in a few years, but because of work I spend a lot of time in Central European cities such as Budapest, Prague, Bucharest, and others.

One thing I've noticed since COVID is the huge increase in the number of Brazilian escorts working across London and Central Europe. A few years ago, they seemed to be a relatively small part of the market. Today, from what I see, they make up a very large share of the London scene and are increasingly present in cities throughout Central Europe.

In my opinion, this has contributed significantly to higher prices. Many Brazilian escorts are charging London-level rates, and in some cases even more than what local providers charge in the cities where they work. As a customer, I don't think the quality always matches the prices being asked.

What frustrates me most is the loss of variety. When I travel to different countries, I want to experience local culture and meet local people. Instead, I often find the same nationality represented across multiple cities. It starts to feel like every market is becoming the same.

Again, this is just my personal observation from travelling frequently for business over the last several years. Others may have had different experiences, but I've definitely noticed a major shift in both pricing and market composition since COVID.[/QUOTE]There is a strong network effect in escorting. These Brazilian escorts likely have a small community within their European cities and even across them.

Twenty years ago, you might have heard a Brasileira say she had a friend working in some city in Western Europe. Ten years ago, it seemed like most of the top Brazilian escorts had some European tours under their belts. It's only grown in scale.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070819]My vacation is coming up in about two months, and whenever I take this type of trip, I usually visit 34 countries, mostly in Central Europe. If I'm back in the USA, then I might choose Brazil instead.

This year, since I'm already in Europe, I was considering Lisbon, Madrid, and Barcelona. Looking at the local economy, Portugal's average salary is relatively low compared to many Western European countries. However, what surprised me was the pricing I found when browsing several escort websites.

I noticed many Brazilian women advertising in Lisbon. The same type of service that might cost around 50100 per hour in Rio de Janeiro was being advertised for 200250 per hour in Lisbon, with even 30-minute appointments around 150. At first, I thought it was just one website, but after checking several others, I saw similar pricing patterns.

What I find interesting is how dramatically prices change simply because the location changes. The same applies in several Central European cities I've visited, including Prague, Budapest, and Bucharest. There seems to be a very large Brazilian presence in many European markets, and the rates are often two to four times higher than what is commonly charged in Brazil.

From a market perspective, it's fascinating to see how supply, demand, local income levels, tourism, and customer expectations can affect pricing. The service itself may be similar, but the market value changes significantly once people are operating in Europe rather than in Brazil.[/QUOTE]This pattern is not limited only to Brazilian girls. It's always cheaper at the source home countries. Other good examples are Colombian girls -- they are much cheaper in Colombia even with Cartegena and Medellin experiencing price hikes compared to when they travel and work in Panama and Costa Rica. I could just imagine how much more expensive both Latin American and Asian girls are when they work in Dubai.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3070836]This pattern is not limited only to Brazilian girls. It's always cheaper at the source home countries. Other good examples are Colombian girls -- they are much cheaper in Colombia even with Cartegena and Medellin experiencing price hikes compared to when they travel and work in Panama and Costa Rica. I could just imagine how much more expensive both Latin American and Asian girls are when they work in Dubai.[/QUOTE]You're right. This is what I have experienced too. The price of pussy is normally cheaper in the home country versus in a place like the United States, Europe, or Dubai. I mongered in Dubai once, and never again. Too much money (especially for blonde, Ruskie pussy) for too little performance. As I have said many times before, I would rather monger in Switzerland where the pussy costs even more, but where at least you can get top notch performance to go along with the cost.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070819]From a market perspective, it's fascinating to see how supply, demand, local income levels, tourism, and customer expectations can affect pricing. The service itself may be similar, but the market value changes significantly once people are operating in Europe rather than in Brazil.[/QUOTE]The one I was talking to in Lisbon was asking quadruple the maximum price I would be quite happy to pay for a hot garota working at Scandallo (the baddest puta palace on the planet), which quite often comes not only with a BBBJ, but also anal sex and more. [B]Quadruple[/B]! Just insane! Because that's what she thinks she should be able to command in Europe from "thirsty" mongers. And unfortunately, what you routinely find is that girls charging all that money aren't better performers on average, and indeed are often worse. No way, no how am I going there! Give me some grilled sardines and a beer instead LMAO!

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070819].

What I find interesting is how dramatically prices change simply because the location changes. The same applies in several Central European cities I've visited, including Prague, Budapest, and Bucharest. There seems to be a very large Brazilian presence in many European markets, and the rates are often two to four times higher than what is commonly charged in Brazil.

From a market perspective, it's fascinating to see how supply, demand, local income levels, tourism, and customer expectations can affect pricing. The service itself may be similar, but the market value changes significantly once people are operating in Europe rather than in Brazil.[/QUOTE]It makes sense that their prices go up dramatically when they are in Europe. That's the whole reason why they leave their family / children behind for 3 months to chase the Euro / Pound. They aren't traveling that far to ask for the same amount they made in Reais in centro. LOL! (I have had a number of conversations with girls who recently returned to brasil after being in Europe for an extended period about their price gouging in Copa. I laugh and say "Baby, you not in Europe anymore!

I've noticed a major shift in the European escort market over the last few years. In my view, London is now heavily dominated by Brazilian escorts, and their presence is growing rapidly in cities such as Budapest, Prague, Lisbon, Barcelona, and other Western European destinations.

What interests me is that this seems to follow the same economic model used by skilled workers from lower-income countries. Just as tech graduates from countries like India or China often seek opportunities in the US or UK because they can earn several times more than at home, many Brazilian escorts appear to be doing something similar. Instead of working in Brazil, where rates are much lower, they travel to higher-income markets where they can charge several times more for similar services.

From what I've observed, many share accommodation costs with other girls, making their main investment a plane ticket and basic living expenses. Social media and established networks have made it easier than ever to enter these markets.

What surprises me is that this is no longer limited to top-tier escorts. More average-looking Brazilairas seem to be adopting the same strategy, having realized that they can earn far more in London or Western Europe than they can in Brazil. As a result, competition has increased significantly and the market has changed dramatically compared with five or ten years ago.

Has anyone else noticed this trend across Europe, and where do you think the market is heading over the next 5 years?

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070897]I've noticed a major shift in the European escort market over the last few years. In my view, London is now heavily dominated by Brazilian escorts, and their presence is growing rapidly in cities such as Budapest, Prague, Lisbon, Barcelona, and other Western European destinations. Has anyone else noticed this trend across Europe?[/QUOTE]The one place where the Brasilieras absolutely do not dominate is the FKK scene in Germany. That remains the province of the Romanian girls, and even more so post versus pre-COVID (try to imagine that). And as a Romie would put it, I like to "fuck with them" too hahaha!

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070897] I've noticed a major shift in the European escort market over the last few years. In my view, London is now heavily dominated by Brazilian escorts, and their presence is growing rapidly in cities such as Budapest, Prague, Lisbon, Barcelona, and other Western European destinations.

Has anyone else noticed this trend across Europe, and where do you think the market is heading over the next 5 years?[/QUOTE]Anecdotally I have lost 3 amazing Brazilian boate girls to "the tour", They set off on a short-term European visit, and I never heard from them again. Obviously, I do not like this trend.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070897]I've noticed a major shift in the European escort market over the last few years. In my view, London is now heavily dominated by Brazilian escorts, and their presence is growing rapidly in cities such as Budapest, Prague, Lisbon, Barcelona, and other Western European destinations.

What interests me is that this seems to follow the same economic model used by skilled workers from lower-income countries. Just as tech graduates from countries like India or China often seek opportunities in the US or UK because they can earn several times more than at home, many Brazilian escorts appear to be doing something similar. Instead of working in Brazil, where rates are much lower, they travel to higher-income markets where they can charge several times more for similar services.

From what I've observed, many share accommodation costs with other girls, making their main investment a plane ticket and basic living expenses. Social media and established networks have made it easier than ever to enter these markets.

What surprises me is that this is no longer limited to top-tier escorts. More average-looking Brazilairas seem to be adopting the same strategy, having realized that they can earn far more in London or Western Europe than they can in Brazil. As a result, competition has increased significantly and the market has changed dramatically compared with five or ten years ago.[/QUOTE]The European market has been long dominated by girls from Eastern Europe like Hungary, Poland and especially Romania (at least at the FKKs). So will be interesting to see what the effect of more Brazilians entering the market will be like. I guess if you are a brothel or FKK manager, it's a good thing to get another source of supply but for us, sometimes when we travel abroad, we would actually like to sample girls from the local country, ie, an actual German while in Germany (I was fortunate only once in a Berlin brothel to get this). Otherwise it's always been Eastern Euros for me. By default.

The market is governed here in Lisboa by Brasileiras. Around 50 - 60 % of the working girls are from Brasil. They work from low level "casas" to high prized venues. You have here everything. Surprizingly the prices remained the same for the last few years. There had been attempts to demand higher prices by the girls but obviously the mongers had not been prepared to pay it. So the girls had to lower their demands as there is also a fierce competition amongst them. At the other hand they earn here approximately three times more than in Brasil.

Brasileiras who earn 100 - 200 real in Brasil (approx. 15 - 30 Euros) per trick, get here at least for a rapidinha 30 Euros and for a full hour 80 - 100 Euros, which is three times of what they make in Brasil. They have to leave after 3 months the EU. They travel to Israel or another Non-EU country, work there for three months and are back in Portugal for another 3 months. After 9 months abroad they return to Brasil with good money in their pocket.

I whish these hard-working girls all the best. As some of them use this money to open a small shop / hair-dresser / nail-shop etc.

Carlos.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3070634]How does the World Cup impact the termas? Are there less girls working at the termas when Brazil or other South America teams are playing because they want to go party and watch it with their friends somewhere else?

Or does it not really have much of an impact?[/QUOTE]Not really any effect. Weather is actually more of a factor. On rainy days, you'll see much less chicas and customers. For some places like 4 x 4 they have a big screen in the main bar area so nobody is missing out. I don't recall if there was a big screen like this in the Centaurus area. Best days to go are M-Th. Friday some of them go out to party like you said. Saturdays are dead and not worth going IMO, and Sundays everywhere is closed.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070897]I've noticed a major shift in the European escort market over the last few years. In my view, London is now heavily dominated by Brazilian escorts, and their presence is growing rapidly in cities such as Budapest, Prague, Lisbon, Barcelona, and other Western European destinations.

What interests me is that this seems to follow the same economic model used by skilled workers from lower-income countries. Just as tech graduates from countries like India or China often seek opportunities in the US or UK because they can earn several times more than at home, many Brazilian escorts appear to be doing something similar. Instead of working in Brazil, where rates are much lower, they travel to higher-income markets where they can charge several times more for similar services.

From what I've observed, many share accommodation costs with other girls, making their main investment a plane ticket and basic living expenses. Social media and established networks have made it easier than ever to enter these markets.

What surprises me is that this is no longer limited to top-tier escorts. More average-looking Brazilairas seem to be adopting the same strategy, having realized that they can earn far more in London or Western Europe than they can in Brazil. As a result, competition has increased significantly and the market has changed dramatically compared with five or ten years ago.

Has anyone else noticed this trend across Europe, and where do you think the market is heading over the next 5 years?[/QUOTE]Yess, I know like 5 girls who are currently in Europe right now. Three girls from 4 x4, one is London, another in France and another in Italy. I'm not currently in Brazil right now, so I don't care too much, but I'm hoping they're back by the time I return.

[QUOTE=Pokemonger;3071152]Not really any effect. Weather is actually more of a factor. On rainy days, you'll see much less chicas and customers. For some places like 4 x 4 they have a big screen in the main bar area so nobody is missing out. I don't recall if there was a big screen like this in the Centaurus area. Best days to go are M-Th. Friday some of them go out to party like you said. Saturdays are dead and not worth going IMO, and Sundays everywhere is closed.[/QUOTE]Ok thank you!

So, Vagabundo talked with a fellow ISGer who wanted to know how to work on Portuguese. Try this -.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wk1bClz5cA[/URL]

On auto translate to English. My bro has effed up my game with various girls, but that's part of the game. He overpays, but I am here, and his job requires him to be in the Rich World. Hoars are hoars, but they are all hoars, right?

Our published authors in the greatest books of all times -- Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Tropic of Cancer -- all have various episodes like this. We are all shooting on each other's targets. Some groups, some races, some countries produce more parasites than others, and we learn to manage the information we disclose.

Because to be in Rio in Barra is the best that a man can get in this life. 115 minutes today I fucked while watching the porn I grew up to in the ahem, well, several decades ago. There was a French guy sticking his tongue up the ass of a just turned 18 year old whose name I shall not mention, and there was Peter North and Joey Silvera on a very nice boat trip, 69 ing no less with the same French hoar, not that she is french, but they are all French, damn the frogs. Fuck all the enlightened, the feminized.

I played first Chris Isaak on my google music unlimited premium account for the first hour of tantric muay thai cross training.

I stopped into the muay thai and jiu jitsu at copa in the temple, and there was the usual dick measuring. Some faggot jiu jitsu coach begging for students got on his back and shuffled around saying you need me to train you, and I told him I coached wrestling at a top Catholic prep school for two years, and two very fuckable young wonder women looking brunettes took the hint. So, I fucked Erica boyer, who co starred in some of the best porn of that era with the best talen, which is dangerous.

I had ordered camarada camarao, from the restaurant where I ate with Tavares, that bastard who regaled me with the stories of him doing lines of coke with the girls at help who went to the favela to get their blow. It was waiting for us. 120 r for a basket of chopp, ie, shrimp fried in beer, Baltic seaport style.

My weight is up from lack of training, but I made up for it a little, an hour of tantric fucking. Her pussy hurt from some infection, but she needs to pay bills, she had some kidney problem, but I have money, and I am better than the prive. At an hour, we took a break to eat shrimp.

We pick porn we like together. That is healthier than jerking off in some wealthy area of Los Angeles so burdened by expenses that you are neglecting your Tijuana girls. I call back to the rich world between fucks, as if I give a fuck. I email off revised biz plans from a previous life to a philanthropic life to gain some penitence in the sheol I inhabit like a rabbi undercover as saint Augustine trying to justify a genocide. Just a little one.

I think of Ann amari, whom I still remember well, and she texts me non committal messages to maintain options. Selling option contracts is what I do.

Our second round of the afternoon revises our latest favorite videos mixed in with various videos from when I was a repressed teen, and my brain is awash with all the girls I should have fucked back on the Golan heights, the French girl, long legged and brunette, and all of our classmates who should have eaten her pussy to warm her up.

Erica Boyer comes over for 3 hours from 16 h to 19 h, 180 minutes, and we fuck for exactly more or less 115 minutes of it, maybe 112.

I go to the guanabarra, I use ann amari's CPF to get a discount of 23 reais on a 750 r bill, acai pulp, frozen salmon sliced into 125 g pieces, juice in 1. 3 l bottles because I brew my own sun brewed ice tea and put it into the bottles because I am a SWISS NAVY infantry officer out on the hills of Quantico, and I hydrate as I will for the next 63 years until the big CH53 in the sky lands and takes me back to the USS Belleau Wood for a ride to the fields of France where my perfect Finnish swim partner will meet me. I buy two mice, one a high end gamer and the other a cheap replacement so that I can better sell option contracts to take in theta premium in delta dollar neutral box trades like the boxer I am. And so I can scroll through the porn that Erica boyer and I choose together, which is POV porn with Brazilians by pools, all of which we could make -- and should!

Selah.

I was surprise to see so many of them working in Lisboa last week, but I guess this makes sense, plus its also a Portuguese speaking country.

[QUOTE=CarlosPrimeros;3070985]The market is governed here in Lisboa by Brasileiras. Around 50 - 60 % of the working girls are from Brasil. They work from low level "casas" to high prized venues. You have here everything. Surprizingly the prices remained the same for the last few years. There had been attempts to demand higher prices by the girls but obviously the mongers had not been prepared to pay it. So the girls had to lower their demands as there is also a fierce competition amongst them. At the other hand they earn here approximately three times more than in Brasil.

Brasileiras who earn 100 - 200 real in Brasil (approx. 15 - 30 Euros) per trick, get here at least for a rapidinha 30 Euros and for a full hour 80 - 100 Euros, which is three times of what they make in Brasil. They have to leave after 3 months the EU. They travel to Israel or another Non-EU country, work there for three months and are back in Portugal for another 3 months. After 9 months abroad they return to Brasil with good money in their pocket.

I whish these hard-working girls all the best. As some of them use this money to open a small shop / hair-dresser / nail-shop etc.

Carlos.[/QUOTE]

Perola Negra, Barra, Saturday midnight.

Vagabundo vagabubba'ed over to Perola Negra and banged a girl on par with a barravipsrio girl. There are 25 girls at her level, the girl in the attached pic. The cost is 390 r for 40 minutes, and she upsold me for the bare for 100 r, after I showed her my tests. The pic is not the girl, but the girl was pretty much the same quality.

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=uoJASIne3dy7nxXI[/URL]

This is the beach in front of perola negra. And in front of my place.

I watched the world cup there.

The best asss was Raika, a morena, with a Monica mattos ass.

[URL]https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM?si=uoJASIne3dy7nxXI[/URL]

Fake tits, but perfect morena ass. Monica Mattos is a classic of buttman / jazz duro porno. Why Evil Angel doesn't do good boy girl Brazilian porn, I don't know.

You lads are all in a Cyber command company in the SWISS NAVY, and I hereby deputize you as LAPD officers in the current version of the Rodney King Riots, in Covid 2027, which has started.

All kidding aside, there is like a war going on here in Rio. Maybe all the people with money are at the world cup in LA? But Leaving Perola Negra, I gave a hand shake to Jair, the manager, who has a true phallic tactical nuke weirdly shaped conical dome of a head, like a circumcized penis, like the warhead of a nuke on a penguin Israeli tactical missile aimed at tehran. That too is going on, any day, could be a nuke in San Diego, Galveston and Shanghai (see Ackerman, 2034), but there is a no shit war going on in Rio. So, the doorman told me not to walk from Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400 to posto 3. I did not really believe him, but after strapping up and putting on a jiu jitsu rash guard from decathlon, I walked to olegario maciel, which is usually hopping, but it was mostly dead, except for Raval, the hookah joint, so I could go to the 3 pharmacy stores to recharge the chip on one of my celulars. I did recharge from a very scared staff, who, realizing I was a gringo relaxed, because gringos are not CV or PCC the drug -- now terrorist-- gangs at war with the cops, who actually shot up buses in front of panda motel on rua sao clemente near santa marta last week.

So.

Be warned.

Branca with big hips like the barravipsrio girl in the photo, after 3 attempts at negotiating bare did agree.

My time in kunt was a mere 25 minutes.

All in.

(390+100+50)/25 = cpf pm a was like 550/25 so 22 r. Insanely bad for a professional of sex like vagabundo, but I was kind of taking requests.

I got 4 numbers, one.

Iza, smoking hot negra.

Leh, the paulistana I fucked, who looks like the attached pic. Will I repeat? Maybe 500 r for pernoite.

I deep French kissed a blond, very drunk, very sexy girl who would not confirm that she would bareback, so I moved on.

I tried to get the number of raika, the hottested ass Monica mattos look alike, who gave me the Rio heisman. Would love to suck on her pussy lips, which she displayed.

There was marila, a blonde who also looks like the barravipsrio pictured girl, with large silver dollar nipples which I exposed when she first leaned those tits over my face. I then asked her to sit with me, and did the normal interview (see my guide, I may repost that section here). She said she would deep french kiss, but did not in the boate, at which point, I directed her to stick her tongue in my ear, which I enjoyed. I told her that it was not good enough, and she licked my ear and then kissed my neck with her tongue again. I enjoyed all of this very much, like high school making out.

So there it is.

Centaurus is better, but I hate zona sul. It is on a par with scandallo, even though it has like 20% of the girls, the best do also have Monica Mattos asses. I guess at evil angel, the porn that makes money is TS which is a shame, as rio / Brazil still has Monica Mattos quality asses. Monica Mattos. I mean, you can also find her sucking horse dicks if you search around the internet, but Monica Mattos azzz is why vagabundo worked at evil angel, and shortly after my brief career as a DMCA lawyer there, came to Brazil, maybe hopefully to stay on his 27th trip.

Entao.

Correction.

This is a link to Monica Mattos.

[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video.ooccudab4b4/brazilian_beauty_monica_mattos_double_anal_penetration_dap[/URL]

She might be a good justification to spend 450 r a 40 minute covered fuck.

Raika, the names are recycled, there was a raika at 4 x4 who became my 2021 belladonna, whose simp client was there too, I think. I see the old belladonna around olegario maciel.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3072211]Perola Negra, Barra, Saturday midnight.

Vagabundo vagabubba'ed over to Perola Negra and banged a girl on par with a barravipsrio girl. There are 25 girls at her level, the girl in the attached pic. The cost is 390 r for 40 minutes, and she upsold me for the bare for 100 r, after I showed her my tests. The pic is not the girl, but the girl was pretty much the same quality.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jubby007;3070897]I've noticed a major shift in the European escort market over the last few years. In my view, London is now heavily dominated by Brazilian escorts, and their presence is growing rapidly in cities such as Budapest, Prague, Lisbon, Barcelona, and other Western European destinations.

What interests me is that this seems to follow the same economic model used by skilled workers from lower-income countries. Just as tech graduates from countries like India or China often seek opportunities in the US or UK because they can earn several times more than at home, many Brazilian escorts appear to be doing something similar. Instead of working in Brazil, where rates are much lower, they travel to higher-income markets where they can charge several times more for similar services.

From what I've observed, many share accommodation costs with other girls, making their main investment a plane ticket and basic living expenses. Social media and established networks have made it easier than ever to enter these markets.

What surprises me is that this is no longer limited to top-tier escorts. More average-looking Brazilairas seem to be adopting the same strategy, having realized that they can earn far more in London or Western Europe than they can in Brazil. As a result, competition has increased significantly and the market has changed dramatically compared with five or ten years ago.

Has anyone else noticed this trend across Europe, and where do you think the market is heading over the next 5 years?[/QUOTE]I got a few texts last week from girls I know from Brazil who are in New Jersey working the World Cup. They wanted to let me know they were in town. I would have liked to indulge but too busy now to make my way to Newark. I also got a text from a Rio girl telling me Copacabana is dead and the bills are piling up, I didn't offer anything and she didn't ask. Most of them don't ask straight out for money, maybe they prefer you offer. One girl even sent me her eviction notice, she asked for money but got blocked, I later found out she jumped off the top of a building. She was beautiful, mid 30's but I guess too old to be playing this game all night.

What are the cheapest girl, is that at Vila Mimosa?

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3069524]Is kissing something that is common? And you guys do it? I always try to play safe, but kissing a young hottie would be nice if it's safe.

Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]Kissing is very common and will even happen in clubs with non-pros (if attracted to you). It doesn't happen to me as much anymore, but 15 years ago it would happen nightly when I'd go to regular dance clubs. If a girl is into you she'll practically try to choke you with her tongue.

Hello, everybody!

Let me first thank all of you for the incredible treasure of mongering information that you created here!

I am a long time read-only user, finally managed to register and activate my profile (by using a different mail server). Now it is my time to contribute back.

I am coming from the mongering sub-forum of the campus Russian travel forum. I resembles ISG a lot. But unfortunately that forum is almost dead due to. You know. Russians don't travel anymore and they don't have internet, hehehhe. However there we praised ISG as an absolute source of information, rich and helpful. All my travels for the last 5 years are based on information from ISG.

Sorry for my imperfect English, as it is not my first language. However I speak Russian, Ukrainian, English, French, Spanish and therefore have no problem with Portuguese.

Have mongered in Ukraine, Poland, Czech rep. , Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Serbia, Turkey, Thailand (3 visits), Cambodia, Philippines, Singapore, Cuba (4 visits), Dominican, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Peru and of course Brazil (2 visits). My life goal is to have sex with woman on ALL continents. Africa, Australia, Antarctica will be next.

Enough of me. I have some questions, but before I ask them I would like to show that I am willing to contribute. In the next post there will be some useful info from my trip to Brazil 6 month ago.

Let's start from the some boates, than never or rarely have been mentioned here.

I sessioned in therma Caribbean Sul, and at reception there was a list of "sister"-boates. 9! Places.

1. Carribean Sul itself. R. Prof. Alfredo Gomes, 9 - Botafogo, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22251-080, Brazil.

Sessioned with thick Latina, non-enthusiastic weed smoker. 250 reais 30 min.

2. Bar Up House Nightclub. Av. Mem de Sá, 89 - Lapa, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

3. Termas Up Bar nightclub. Av. Mem de Sá, 67 - Lapa, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

These two seem to have same management, as garotas and security guys circulating between them. Entrance fee was 100 or 120 reais in both.

In one of them I sessioned with nice bubbly energetic Latina with classic big round Brazilian bunda. 65 for ladydrink and 528 for room and 1 hour session. Talked to garota, they receive 300 reais from that amount.

In the second one I had some very skinny non-enthusiastic mulata with braids. Ladydrink 44,300 for 30 min.

Next ones I did not visit, but add them for information:

4. Blue House Night Club. Casa Noturna no Rio de Janeiro Estr. De Jacarepaguá, 5966 - Jacarepaguá, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

5. Termas Secretos Night club.

Casa Noturna them Vila Isabel are. Gonzaga Bastos, 352 - Vila Isabel, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

6. Caribean Queen. Are. Nossa Sra. Das Graças, 604 - Ramos, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil. Listed as "Public bath", LOL.

7. Rio's American Bar Av. Guilherme Maxwel, 389 - Bonsucesso, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

8. Arena Jobs Night Club. Casa Noturna are. Nicaragua, 407 (or 405) - Penha, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

9. House Night Club. Casa Noturna them Jacarepaguá Estr. Dos Bandeirantes, 4655 - Jacarepaguá, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, Brazil.

Also I would like to warn about Eros Massagem on Barra de Tijuca.

Their "terapeuta" Layla (short thic branca brunette) stole 300 reais from one pocket of my cargo-shorts and 20 $ from another while I was showering. I know it is Mongering 101 to take your clothes with you to shower, but I lost my awareness because it was my last day in Rio and massage parlour looked nice. I complained to management, no result, garota denied all. It took me 2 hours of constantly harrasing and gaslighting them in whatsapp, and voilà, money mysteriously found. Came back and received exactly 300 reais and 20 $.

I bet they decided to step back when I mentioned gpguia or gparena, and the upcoming shitstorm of my angry reviews, LOL. So use this trick if you ever have such situation. Management is clearly on the side of girl, as that Layla was working there for months after the incident.

I have multi-page report on another forum, with tenth of pictures and even music. Impossible to squeeze it all here.

Let's just say everything that was recently said about Centaurus is true. 50+ mediocre looking digital commercial sharks. Monte Carlo and Solarium were the best in that trip. Casablanca is expensive, but experience was 12 out of 10. The mysterious "ladydrink for 600 reais" is not actually a ladydrink, it is a champagne bottle, the only drink girls are allowed to drink in Casablanca. Nobody forces you to buy it.

Feel free to ask questions.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3072624]Kissing is very common and will even happen in clubs with non-pros (if attracted to you). It doesn't happen to me as much anymore, but 15 years ago it would happen nightly when I'd go to regular dance clubs. If a girl is into you she'll practically try to choke you with her tongue.[/QUOTE]Yup. No place better than Brazil for girls that like to kiss, both pro and non-pro.

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3072626]My life goal is to have sex with woman on ALL continents. Africa, Australia, Antarctica will be next.[/QUOTE]I have only Australia and Antarctica left. I'm extremely confident about Australia. Not so much about Antarctica. But, it's good to have life goals LOL!

I just went to the photoacompanhantes site and now they want you to verify your age. You have to use a web cam so they can verify your age. Crazy.

[QUOTE=TDick;3072563]What are the cheapest girl, is that at Vila Mimosa?[/QUOTE]They have many cheap spots around Centro.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3072663]They have many cheap spots around Centro.[/QUOTE]Please enlighten me! I'm completely new in Brazil (very experienced in every destination in Europe). Thanks so much.

[QUOTE=TDick;3072698]Please enlighten me! I'm completely new in Brazil (very experienced in every destination in Europe). Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Here are a few spots in Centro. I copied and paste this from Showdown trip report in 2025.

Posts: 458.

My notes that can help a newbie going to Rio.

I put together alot of notes before I went to Rio. I collected them mainly from ISG but also other sites. My notes are rough and in some instances I simply copied / pasted from what I was reading.

I hope this can help a newbie going to Rio in the future.

Escort websites:

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com[/URL]

[URL]https://www.riosexsite.com[/URL]

[URL]https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-rj[/URL](They will come to you).

[URL]https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

Massage:

[URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/[/URL] (You go to them).

Seeking:

[URL]https://www.meupatrocinio.com/[/URL]

**Rio Branco-TO BE VISITED. 34 floors, electronic key card for elevator, show ID.

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 are, 30 min 170 are.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 are, 30 min 140 are. [URL]https://onixterapias.com/[/URL] Choose VIP room.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. There are many other places in that same building.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 are, 30 min 140 are. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

**Praca Olavo Bilac-TO BE VISITED, show ID.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. Get off at 20th floor and walk up stairs to 21 floor. 1 h 140 are, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL. [URL]https://www.darkroom.com.br/.[/URL].

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 14171 h 200 are.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 are, 30 minutes standard room is 350 are. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 are+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 are and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de S, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 are, 30 min 150 are, 1 h 300 are. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 are which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 are, 30 min 170 are.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424-nightclub full of freelancers. Not recommended.

EDEN SPA COPACABANA. TO BE VISITED Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Pricing 200 are or 180 are for the HR, and 140/170 are for 30 minutes. Go one floor down in the same building are other prives; Open at 10 am [URL]https://www.edenspa.com.br[/URL]. Massagem 583, Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 583 Suite 302 [URL]https://www.massagem583.com.br[/URL]. Unknown in Suite 206 ALL THREE IN SAME BUILDING.

Delirio Oriental COPACABANA In Copa area. Rua Hilrio de Gouveia 66, sala 201 150 reais /30 min or 200 reais /60 min Room 201 [URL]https://deliriooriental.com.br/index.html.[/URL].

Emporio do Banho: Rua do Rosrio 135, sala 302; 180 reais.

Massagem 583 COPACABANA.

Copa Rio Spa, COPACABANA Av. Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 605 Suite 603 [URL]https://www.copariospa.com.br/contato/..[/URL].

Copa Spa, COPACABANA. Siqueira Campos, 43, suite 825.

Monte Carlo-like German FKK. Opens at 3 pm. 10 available.

MABS-resturant to pick up.

The prives seem to be mostly open 10 am-10 pm Monday to Friday, then 10 am-6 pm on Saturday, and they are closed Sundays. Most seem to have WhatsApp accounts and are easy to contact.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3072662]I just went to the photoacompanhantes site and now they want you to verify your age. You have to use a web cam so they can verify your age. Crazy.[/QUOTE]Yea, it'll be interesting to see what's going to happen. Will all the other sites follow? Or Will photoacompanhantes just lose most of its customer base? Does anyone actually know the letter of the law specifically? Is what they are doing overkill? I think I read somewhere, but I'm not sure where, that a popup that asks your age would be sufficient.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3072661]I have only Australia and Antarctica left. I'm extremely confident about Australia. Not so much about Antarctica. But, it's good to have life goals LOL![/QUOTE]As far as I know. Australia has official legal bordellos. So no problem with it indeed.

As for Antarctica. There are no native women of course, but my plan is to bring a chick with me on Antarctic cruise. They have an option to land on some island and even spend the night in sleeping bag in the snow. So we land, run to the nearest big rock and fulfill my dream. Just need to save 20 k $ hehehehe.

Is there an possibility to edit my post? I want to correct some typos, but there no options in thread nor in my profile.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3072736]Yea, it'll be interesting to see what's going to happen. Will all the other sites follow? Or Will photoacompanhantes just lose most of its customer base? Does anyone actually know the letter of the law specifically? Is what they are doing overkill? I think I read somewhere, but I'm not sure where, that a popup that asks your age would be sufficient.[/QUOTE]Brazil is probably copying The EU because how can the enlightened Europe do anything wrong (except, well, everything). In any case, I tried Fatal Models, and haven't seen any issues so far other than the insatiable greed and ugliness of the hoars populating the first page. As for whether they're going to lose most of its customers, who knows. They've lost this one. No fucking way I trust their promise of anonymity, LOL.

The primary way of locating the best talent is going in person and word of mouth.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3072790]Brazil is probably copying The EU because how can the enlightened Europe do anything wrong (except, well, everything). In any case, I tried Fatal Models, and haven't seen any issues so far other than the insatiable greed and ugliness of the hoars populating the first page. As for whether they're going to lose most of its customers, who knows. They've lost this one. No fucking way I trust their promise of anonymity, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3072745]As far as I know. Australia has official legal bordellos. So no problem with it indeed. As for Antarctica. There are no native women of course, but my plan is to bring a chick with me on Antarctic cruise. They have an option to land on some island and even spend the night in sleeping bag in the snow. So we land, run to the nearest big rock and fulfill my dream. Just need to save 20 k $ hehehehe. Is there a possibility to edit my post? I want to correct some typos, but there no options in thread nor in my profile.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Yes, I also looked into a cruise, and it would have been $10,000 just for me, so that sounds about right. That's going to be one expensive fuck bro LOL! After Oceania, I think I will be done with "world conquest" and leave Antarctica for you. I have no interest in fucking on the ice with "popsicle" dick anyway LMAO!

Regarding editing posts, in most instances when you're under moderation you won't be able to. It's one thing that I don't like since I do make mistakes, typos, or wish to add more or different information to my posts often.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3072662]I just went to the photoacompanhantes site and now they want you to verify your age. You have to use a web cam so they can verify your age. Crazy.[/QUOTE]Well, they shot themselves in the balls. Who would give their face and ID on prostitute website? Not girls, not clients. I will try to bypass that facecheck by using AI or fake face, LOL.

Anyway, photoaccompanhantes was the scamiest of them all, however it was full of new garotas and you could find some priveés too.

And they decided to do this stupid trick just one week before my visit!

I checked some other websites:

Barravipsrio, riosexsite, fatalmodels, private55, classrio. No problem.

Garotacomlocal. Well, yesteday I saw some profiles "hidden" for the reason of ID verification blablabla and thought: Oh no! It is spreading!

But today I see only normal open anonces, with photos and phone numbers, so they decided to ignore that "law". I hope photoaccompanhantes wil eventually do the same.

[QUOTE=TDick;3072698]Please enlighten me! I'm completely new in Brazil (very experienced in every destination in Europe). Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Comrade Rahsa enlightened you on some popular places, not the cheapest ones. And Monte Carlo, Dolce Vita and MAB's are definitely not even the middle-tier ones, LOL.

The real cheap you will find indeed in Villa Mimosa. I had most beautiful in my life 19 yo pale skin anorexic-heroine-chic-90's-top-models-like garota with big dark bottomless lifeless eyes for. 70 reais. 13 $. Thirteen dollars, Carl! In the dirtiest room on Earth. It was in January 2022. Saw some mentions here, that price can be up to 160 reais now.

If you do not want to go to Villa Mimosa (I visited it again 6 month ago, it is still trash, but a little bit better, surroundings are starting to have some initial jentrification) - go to Centro.

There is a very special building. Avenida Treze de Maio, 33. There are 10+ maybe 15 cheap priveés. Rooms 2102,2103, 2107,2008, 3206,601, 607 etc. There are always. Ahem. Barkers at the entrance, men and women. They will grab you and escort to the priveés for some commission (you don't pay it). You can avoid them by entering from rua Sen. Dantas, not from rua Treze de Mayo.

Be careful not to lost in elevator section, it is imbecile, not every elevator is going to every floor. You will have to run between floors also.

Inside every priveé you have literally large office rooms, with cubicles, and employees are working with their mouth, but not in office way, if you know what I mean, muehehehehe!

You go to the cubicle and they start a presentacao: girls are coming one by one and present themselves and their services. Literally "HellomynameisMariannaidogoodservecechangepositionkissesmassagesextrasondemandnicetomeetyou! Next one is coming and repeats this tongue-twister.

The prices are 60 reais for 10 min, up to 160 reais for 1 hour. The girl I saw were 4-5, with two up to 6-6,5 because they were young.

In the middle of the day, in the very Centro, close to enormous bazaar Mercado Urugvaiana, not so far from ultra-touristic spot aka Confetaria Colombo on Rua Gonçalves Dias, 82 you will find a functioning boate, Club Sexo, LOL. With music, garotas, local hobos and other benefits.

The rabbithole is deeper than we (here on ISG) know. Even Vagabundo1 does not know how deep it is. You will not find such places at World Travel 69 maps.

Enjoy!

Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for!

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3072906]Comrade Rahsa enlightened you on some popular places, not the cheapest ones. And Monte Carlo, Dolce Vita and MAB's are definitely not even the middle-tier ones, LOL.

The real cheap you will find indeed in Villa Mimosa. I had most beautiful in my life 19 yo pale skin anorexic-heroine-chic-90's-top-models-like garota with big dark bottomless lifeless eyes for. 70 reais. 13 $. Thirteen dollars, Carl! In the dirtiest room on Earth. It was in January 2022. Saw some mentions here, that price can be up to 160 reais now.

If you do not want to go to Villa Mimosa (I visited it again 6 month ago, it is still trash, but a little bit better, surroundings are starting to have some initial jentrification) - go to Centro.[/QUOTE]

Vagabundo did a prive girl yesterday, 250/45 for CPF PM A USD of 1 per minute, sustainable annually, ad infinitum.

Nota bene: this information is partially out of date.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3072724]Here are a few spots in Centro. I copied and paste this from Showdown trip report in 2025.

Posts: 458.

My notes that can help a newbie going to Rio.

I put together alot of notes before I went to Rio. I collected them mainly from ISG but also other sites. My notes are rough and in some instances I simply copied / pasted from what I was reading.

I hope this can help a newbie going to Rio in the future..[/QUOTE]

Showdown 's report was good, but, and a few big butts.

He only flew into Rio once.

At the wrong time (Christmas holidays).

And never returned, but he is a good dude, and wrote a great report, but and a big butt.

Some of those addresses are like out of date twice removed, and those who actually are boots on the ground know which ones.

Vagabundo did a favor for Anne Amari today and fucked her, and it was a good albeit brief fuck, like 10 minutes. I met her at Metro Carioca, at bobs, then went to get a subway, then went to hotel lips got a hidro room for 4 hours.

It was good to see her. She wants my kid because she wants the kid (and the momma) to be rich. She is smart. We talked about the global war pushing up commodity prices in Brazil.

We fucked. The porn in the room sucked. She is 23. She is pretty enough, and we have some history. I paid her 300 r plus 50 r for uber, plus 180 r for the room.

Vagabundo is not a football, er, futbol, fan. He did put in a heavy bag into his room, so he can get in 4 hours of training on a heavy bag per week along with 4 hours of fucking per week. So game on.

Now is the best time to be in Rio, IMHO. It is always summer, especially if you are a germanic offspring and can throw on a milimeter wetsuit and swim in the ocean or at least the pool. Some of the better girls are coming back to the prives.

It must be a measure of how bad Brazil withdrawal syndrome is that so many people are discussing the photoverification issue on photoaccompanhantes dot com.

Just.

Say.

No.

FUCC.

ZUCKK NO.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3073007]Vagabundo did a prive girl yesterday, 250/45 for CPF PM A USD of 1 per minute, sustainable annually, ad infinitum.



Nota bene: this information is partially out of date.[/QUOTE]

I have a thing for Black girls, thin and short if possible. Is there a good ratio of ethnicities in places like 4 x 4?

Thanks everyone.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3073518]I have a thing for Black girls, thin and short if possible. Is there a good ratio of ethnicities in places like 4 x 4?

Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]The mainline termas are not good for black girls at all. You're much better off sticking to the prives. Vagabundo is your man when it comes to the best places to find the black girls in Rio.

Unfortunately for you, I would estimate the rate of black garotas as f 1 in 10 or sometimes 1 in 30 in Rio's thermas.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3073518]I have a thing for Black girls, thin and short if possible. Is there a good ratio of ethnicities in places like 4 x 4?[/QUOTE]We are talking about RJ, right? I mean, they got plenty of "black girls" at 4 x 4, so the odds are in your favor in finding what you want there. That said, the last time I was at Solarium I met a charming and very sexy black spinner. She was my 2nd choice at the time, because my 1st choice, an attractive branca was sitting with another customer and I do not like to wait. Anyway, my dark-skinned spinner was absolutely outstanding, and I really had a good time with her. My point being you can find slender, attractive, black girls of every size and proportion in RJ. They are all over the place! You will have a good time.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3073518]I have a thing for Black girls, thin and short if possible. Is there a good ratio of ethnicities in places like 4 x 4?

Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]Generally, there can be some Black representation at 4 x4. It's definitely a small representation though. As far as thin and short, possibly. You will likely see some pop in the ass even if the girl is thin and short. That's just a Brasileira trait.

There are some places that will have more Black girls. I will leave that to local experts like Vagabundo to report. He will definitely know how to help a member satisfy a taste for chocolate.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3073570]Generally, there can be some Black representation at 4 x4. It's definitely a small representation though. As far as thin and short, possibly. You will likely see some pop in the ass even if the girl is thin and short. That's just a Brasileira trait.

There are some places that will have more Black girls. I will leave that to local experts like Vagabundo to report. He will definitely know how to help a member satisfy a taste for chocolate.[/QUOTE]I certainly appreciate the info, hopefully Vagabundo will reply.

Cheers fellas.

Wow, it looks like I hold the minority opinion on this subject. OK, but I wasn't thinking about the percentages or ratios of slender, attractive black girls working in RJ Termas only the possibilities. I mean all it takes in 1! So, when I go to a terma, any terma, I know from experience that most of the girls there will not be attractive to my eye. I accept that fact, but (again) all it takes is 1, so if I spot 2, 3 or even 4 attractive, slender, natural, & available ie fuckable girls of any race in a Terma, I am happy.

Unlike the OP, and some other RJ punters, my favorite flavor is slender, pretty, all-natural brancas with small asses which I think we can all agree IS rare in RJ Termas, but I get by. KKK. Anyway, I have met a few really great black spinners in 4 x4, Solarium, Black Pearl, so I don't think finding them is too much of a problem if that is what you are looking for, although I would caution the OP to be flexible and if he spots a friendly, slender, pretty, indigenous or mixed race girl in when no attractive black girls are available, he should roll with it. KKK.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3073570]Generally, there can be some Black representation at 4 x4. It's definitely a small representation though. As far as thin and short, possibly. You will likely see some pop in the ass even if the girl is thin and short. That's just a Brasileira trait.

There are some places that will have more Black girls. I will leave that to local experts like Vagabundo to report. He will definitely know how to help a member satisfy a taste for chocolate.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3073525]Unfortunately for you, I would estimate the rate of black garotas as f 1 in 10 or sometimes 1 in 30 in Rio's thermas.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheCane;3073524]The mainline termas are not good for black girls at all. You're much better off sticking to the prives. Vagabundo is your man when it comes to the best places to find the black girls in Rio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3073518]I have a thing for Black girls, thin and short if possible. Is there a good ratio of ethnicities in places like 4 x 4?

Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]When I checked out Delirio Oriental prive in Copa, all three girls there plus their receptionist were black.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3073610]When I checked out Delirio Oriental prive in Copa, all three girls there plus their receptionist were black.[/QUOTE]Delirio Oriental was closed all of last week. Not sure if that is a permanent issue or not.

There are many, many black women at all the RJ sex tourist spots, from Hi to low, in solarium there is a super hot negra, in 4 x 4, in pretty much every centro prive, some more than others, and especially of course in the secret terma (PM me to be added to a local group), and in VM best on Fridays and Saturdays at night. In perola negra, there are fresh off the bus from minas gerais negras who deep french kiss, so too in paris cafe.

Now if you want to get extra credit go to the museum of modern art and check out the african culture collection right in the middle of pedra do sal, but it is dangerous though I went with locals and got quite the history explanation.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3073593]I certainly appreciate the info, hopefully Vagabundo will reply.

Cheers fellas.[/QUOTE]

Just left Monte Carlo. Came in around 23:00, 10-12 girls, only saw 3 other clients during all visit. When I was sitting in the bar area with my garota, I was only client there for maybe 30 minutes.

Girl are nice dressed in bikini and sexy lingeries. From 6 to maybe 8 on somebody taste. All types, big, small, loiras, morenas, 1 thicc mulata, no negritas. Chose slim 19 yo classic carioca, A-cups, firm small bunda, flat belly, classic latina face.

Nice chat, her primitive english plus my primitive Portuguese. Nice tactile contact. Went upstairs, 1 hour 2 pops. Very nice BBBJ, sex a little bit troubled because she has sore wagina, she works too much with it.

During pause chatted about everything, then went to another round, she could not take it in in doggy style, so I made her suck an came to her mouth. Overall experience all good, face and body 7,5, GFE 8,5, action 6,5 because of aforementioned problems, room 7.

Damage: entrance 180, room suite with shower 300, girl 500, caipirinha 45, juice for garota 25, tips to garota 50.1100 total.

There is 40 min option, 180 for room, 350 for girl, 180 entrance, total will be 710.

Saw my passion from last visit 6 month ago, she was obsessed GF then and cold as ice this time, LOL. Somehow she hit the wall during last 6 months and became senora instead of senhorita as I remembered her.

Comrades, if one day you start to be a little fed up with routine garotas from prives, routine garotas from thermas and boats and start to fancy something emmm. . . Different?

Identical twins, mother-daughter experience, midget porn star, BDSM club, participant in gangbangs, in that ridiculous Brazilian cheap porno shootings etc.

Where would you search for it?

I am not talking or hinting about anything illegal, of course.

Not talking about trans either as it is a supertaboo here for some reason and they are everywhere in Rio anyways, hehehhe.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3073781]There are many, many black women at all the RJ sex tourist spots, from Hi to low, in solarium there is a super hot negra, in 4 x 4, in pretty much every centro prive, some more than others, and especially of course in the secret terma (PM me to be added to a local group), and in VM best on Fridays and Saturdays at night. In perola negra, there are fresh off the bus from minas gerais negras who deep french kiss, so too in paris cafe.

Now if you want to get extra credit go to the museum of modern art and check out the african culture collection right in the middle of pedra do sal, but it is dangerous though I went with locals and got quite the history explanation.[/QUOTE]I would love to know about the secret Termas, but I can't send a pm. I have a few months before I travel so I want to learn everything I can. I really appreciate your insight.

Stay Safe.

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3073874]Comrades, if one day you start to be a little fed up with routine garotas from prives, routine garotas from thermas and boats and start to fancy something emmm. . . Different? Identical twins, mother-daughter experience, midget porn star, BDSM club, participant in gangbangs, in that ridiculous Brazilian cheap porno shootings etc. Where would you search for it?[/QUOTE]That is the problem with Westerners. They see stuff on staged porn movies and take it for being normal or an everyday occurrence, when many times it is movie magic. In the real world, you do not find that kind of stuff, it finds you.

[QUOTE=ChicaBang;3073737]Delirio Oriental was closed all of last week. Not sure if that is a permanent issue or not.[/QUOTE]Probably because they lack working girls considering how they barely had any girls working there the last time I went there.

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3073874]Comrades, if one day you start to be a little fed up with routine garotas from prives, routine garotas from thermas and boats and start to fancy something emmm. . . Different?

Identical twins, mother-daughter experience, midget porn star, .[/QUOTE]One thing I've learned after spending time in Brazil: I never went looking for most of my craziest experiences. They found me.

I checked off the "mother and daughter" bucket list completely by accident. I actually wrote a separate report about it after it happened.

It started at Duda's Massage in Centro, Rio, in one of the office buildings on Avenida Rio Branco. I met Gabriella, a short blonde garota studying to become an immigration lawyer. We clicked immediately. We ended up talking almost as much as we fooled around during a four-hour marathon session. We had a blast joking around, and somehow my corny jokes kept making her laugh, fun time.

During the session I ordered whiskey, a Japanese bento box, and even a special sex toy she liked, ordered & paid through iFood, delivered directly to the priv. It turned into one of those sessions where the conversation was just as memorable as all the action. She was a cutie that aimed to please.

A few weeks later, on Mother's Day, we booked Panda Motel. The plan was simple: relax, smoke some good weed, swim, dance, listen to music, and spend the afternoon together. Nope did not realize it was mother day when I setup our motel date.

During one of our breaks, she is layingvl naked on the bed, she video-called her mom on WhatsApp.

Sure enough, her mother looked like an older, short blonde version of Gaby. I still have no idea why she introduced me to her mom, during the call but after enough time in Brazil I've noticed something: when a garota introduces you to her kids, sister, mother, or other family members, sometimes she's hoping the for something more than just another client session. Wham bam thank you maam here is your money now go away. Some if them want the Richard Gere movie Pretty Woman while I want brasilian Debbie does Dallas. Kkk.

Then the crazy idea hit me. During the call.

I jokingly asked her mother if she'the come over to Panda.

Boom.

She actually said yes.

My first thought was, "What the hell. This is actually happening. ".

I ordered her an Uber Moto so I could track her arrival safely.

Reality never quite matches fantasy, but it came close enough for me. There wasn't any negotiation or extra payment involved. Everything felt genuine. Looking back, I think the mother and daughter probably had their own bucket-list curiosity too. And somehow I ended up being part of it.

Of course, situations like that come with plenty of drama. Eventually I broke off the with both of them. There was just too much baggage & drama, and I value my own sanity.

The funny part? The mother later introduced me to her sisterGaby's aunt.

At that point I realized I was basically working my way through the family tree, and that was my sign to stop. After banging her before shit got too deep in insane family dynamics and stupid drama.

We're still friends today. I'm even in the family WhatsApp group.

And before any thirsty dudes asks. No, I'm not sharing Instagram handles, WhatsApps, or contact information.

Over the years I've stumbled into all kinds of experiences that were never part of some grand plan:

* the mother / daughter story.

* two garotas that looked like twins.

* two garotas gemini that were actual twins and all the jealousy that comes with liking one better than her twin sister cause the personalities were very different.

* visiting a bunch of Moema swingers club with an experienced Moema clinica garotas, each of them wanted to show me, a newbie how everything worked.

* wild parties with themed rooms, dark maze hallways, giant round beds, and voyeur areas.

* seeing security constantly checking for cameras and phones.

* an entire wall of glory holes offering anonymous BJs for are $100 (hard pass for me).

* meeting Brazilian adult-film performers, including a few well-known names.

* hearing behind the scenes stories from garotas about their amateur video production companies experiences on set and how much coin they earn per video session.

Almost none of that came from chasing fantasies online.

Visiting swingy club with an experienced Moema garota to see how stuff works, crazy ass orgies on a onibus, theater, dark labyrinth hallways, orgy room with huge round beds, couples swapping partners (yuck not for me, keep your fat old ass lady) , vouyers watching other people go at it (not for me) , security people every where monitoring rooms& hallways, checking for camera phones, entire room of glory holes walls to get BJ for 100 brl by whatever garotas are hired that night (I aint sticking my dick in there) rooms with spiky dog collars, masks, whips & chains, plus whatever. There is a stores in Moema, that sell Fetiches Acessrios BDSM that caters to whatever weirdo fetishes and you can get a referral to BDSM places if that is your thing. , the normal sex shops have anal plugs, double ended dildos, deep throat sprays, the staff are happy to help find whatever excites garotas butterfly sex toys with remote control, meeting brasilian porno queens that do double anal videos (why she had a kid is beyond me & terrible in bed too) deep throat Brasilian porno queens working in Tangar ,Moah, Miruna, clinica for 230 brl a session, waiting for the pro am video production companies to call them up, vagabundo1 frequently mentions, the production company names and places were the film. asking garotas about the porno video movie magic behind the scenes stuff, how they get prepared to do that crazy stuff which is permanently recorded on the internet..

My experiences all came to me from getting to know friendly, experienced garotas working in CLnicas, spas, privs, Monte Carlo, Solarium, 4 x4, Termas, Scandallo, Gauguin, Casaro, Caster Club, and similar places.

My advice to new guys is simple:

Don't be thirsty. Don't treat every encounter like a transaction you're trying to maximize.

Relax. Talk. Order food. Create a party festive atmosphere with music. Drinks, Learn some street Porto Build a garota roster on instagram or wassap.

Sometimes the craziest stories experiences.

They're the ones that find you when you simply go with the flow.

I'm planning my first Rio trip. Been to SP a lot.

Here's the Rio list - 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus. What else? Absolute Must Dos.

Here's my SP list.

Done. Scandallo, Casarao, Gauguin, Moema Clinicas. Abbobora, Prime, Miruna, 57 friends.

ToDo. Cafe Photo, Banana Cafe, Bomboa222.

What else in SP?

[QUOTE=Tochka;3074106] My advice to new guys is simple:

Don't be thirsty. Don't treat every encounter like a transaction you're trying to maximize.

Relax. Talk. Order food. Create a party festive atmosphere with music. Drinks, Learn some street Porto Build a garota roster on instagram or wassap.

Sometimes the craziest stories experiences.

They're the ones that find you when you simply go with the flow.[/QUOTE]Great advice! That's how it always works for me. Meaning I am up for a ménage a trois (with the right girls) or doing sisters, cousins, ect, almost any time, but I don't pursue it. I let the opportunity come to me and if it feels right, I will go for it.

Usually that means doing my own mongering thing, going to the boates or Go Go's, having many one nighters, but also getting it on with special girls I dig as many times as I like and seeing where that takes me. I have no particular goal in mind other than having a good time, but many times girlfriends of my repeat girl will come around (if we are still hanging out in the Boate or Go Go) to see what's happening, get a free drink, and audition for a role (maybe). Other times I may be entertaining my repeat girl in my room and after the main event when we are just relaxing and talking, drinking, smoking and eating, she may open up her phone and show me various photos of herself, her pet doggy, and her girlfriends. We are just being freindly and social, but if I see an attractive girlfriend I am going to say something, right, like, "she's pretty!" and often times nothing happens, next photo, but occasionally my girl will say something like, "You like her? Would you like to see us together? I can arrange" And we start the conversation.

But guys who are on a short visit to, fill in the blank, any punting destination, for the 1st or 2nd time and want to order up an instant tier 1 meange a trois, or sisters act, ect, will usually be disappointed because, wait for it:

"You can't hurry love.

No, you just have to wait.

Love don't come easy.

It's a game of give and take (can't wait).

You can't hurry love (ooh, until that day).

No, you just have to wait".

A. H.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3074107]I'm planning my first Rio trip. Been to SP a lot.

Here's the Rio list - 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus. What else? Absolute Must Dos.[/QUOTE]Add Casablanca for the fraction of Scandallo's power. If you are in the area, you can also check Dolche Vita if you fancy freelancers.

Visit Villa Mimosa for trash extreme experience.

Visit massage places Eden and Delirio Oriental (if it is open) on Copacabana. Also Belprazer, Emporio Horus, Dudas, Emporio Do banho, Onix and others in Centro. Can be disappointing, as I just left Belprazer and luneup was 8 senoras 30-35-40 years old. Total catastrophe.

Try elite garotas from barravipsrio website. Try massage place, like with real massages and possible FS on espacoterapias.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3074106]Some if them want the Richard Gere movie Pretty Woman while I want brasilian Debbie does Dallas. Kkk.[/QUOTE]Oh, Mr. Greenfeld!

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3074107]I'm planning my first Rio trip. Been to SP a lot.

Here's the Rio list - 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus. What else? Absolute Must Dos.

[/QUOTE]In Rio, I may suggest to start with 4 x4.

It feels like Casarao in SP, but most girls in bikinis.

Also, there is a very nice restaurant Kinjo Culinária Japonesa-Peruana just across Casablanca.

It is all you can eat Japanese style.

There is a tablet on each table and you can order anything from the menu.

But, although Rio has beaches and many more tourists places to visit, in terms of mongering, it feels like small provincial city compare to the big capital, like SP.

[QUOTE=OkSwimmer5517;3074107]I'm planning my first Rio trip. Been to SP a lot.

Here's the Rio list - 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus. What else? Absolute Must Dos.

Here's my SP list.

Done. Scandallo, Casarao, Gauguin, Moema Clinicas. Abbobora, Prime, Miruna, 57 friends.

ToDo. Cafe Photo, Banana Cafe, Bomboa222.

What else in SP?[/QUOTE]If you have done that in SP prepare to be disappointed. Set your expectations at about 50% as good as SP and you might enjoy yourself.

P.S. I agree Dolce Vita can be good but don't go before midnight or even 1 am.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3074210]If you have done that in SP prepare to be disappointed. Set your expectations at about 50% as good as SP and you might enjoy yourself.

P.S. I agree Dolce Vita can be good but don't go before midnight or even 1 am.[/QUOTE]Based on your background in SP as I said I think Rio is going to disappoint you. But it can be fun for a couple days plus of course it's much better as a vacation spot. Based on my experience I'the plan a couple days in Rio and rest in So Paulo and book tickets for that NOW. Here's why:

A month out tickets from Rio to SP are less than $100 round trip. Then a week or two before that doubles. And then a few days before it doubles or more again. So flying last minute is like $500 and booking ahead is $85. So you are much better off to just book the Rio SP ticket now (with an 80% chance of using) rather than last minute at astronomical prices.

[QUOTE=Guest19;3074205]In Rio, I may suggest to start with 4 x4.

It feels like Casarao in SP, but most girls in bikinis.
[/QUOTE]If you think of it like that, you're going to be terribly dissapointed. Its got about 1/10 of the girls that Casarao has on a busy night.

Although its probably the funnest place in Rio and one should go, but temper the expectations.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3074307]If you think of it like that, you're going to be terribly dissapointed. Its got about 1/10 of the girls that Casarao has on a busy night.

Although its probably the funnest place in Rio and one should go, but temper the expectations.[/QUOTE]In Casarao you can always find a couple really hot girls, that could also work in the sp top boates. In 4 x4 you cannot. It is mostly average, older, overweight or trash girls, as pretty much the whole centro area.

For top girls at DV and Casablanca a much better chance, although not guaranteed every night.

[QUOTE=Safado007;3074382]In Casarao you can always find a couple really hot girls, that could also work in the sp top boates. In 4 x4 you cannot. It is mostly average, older, overweight or trash girls, as pretty much the whole centro area.[/QUOTE]I 100% disagree with this. I've always found at least a couple of girls at 4 X4 who could work at the top SP boates, and my last visit was no exception. Quality optics most certainly has gone down at Quatro over the years, but finding some hotties here and there at that termas is still quite possible per my personal experience. In fact, probably the hottest girl I fucked during my whole trip last time was found at 4 x4 (pictured). Hard body, fine as hell branca, and taking it nuts deep in her plump, round branca butt she was!

From Mangue to Villa Mimosa:

[URL]https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/noticia/2026/07/12/vila-mimosa-completa-30-anos-reduto-historico-da-prostituicao-carioca-sofre-com-queda-de-publico-e-tenta-sobreviver.ghtml[/URL]

Prime Video channel mentioned in the article is [URL]https://doc.canalbrasil.com.br/[/URL] The documentary: [URL]https://youtu.be/rQKxuQAQs9Y?si=KURHxArGINTE2gYI[/URL]

Here is another plump, round, branca "boo boo" I found at Quatro por Quatro, even after it's overall decline. WyattEarp knows how much I love a branca bunda plumper (my Kryptonite)! So, so many over the years found at 4 X4! Never failed to find at least one or two every single visit! Even if quality has most certainly fallen off. Hell, one or two per visit is all I really need!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074112]But guys who are on a short visit to, fill in the blank, any punting destination, for the 1st or 2nd time and want to order up an instant tier 1 meange a trois, or sisters act, ect, will usually be disappointed because, wait for it:

"You can't hurry love.

No, you just have to wait.

Love don't come easy.

It's a game of give and take (can't wait).

You can't hurry love (ooh, until that day)..[/QUOTE]Just make a better offer (more money)! LOLOLOLOL!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3074210]If you have done that in SP prepare to be disappointed. Set your expectations at about 50% as good as SP and you might enjoy yourself.

P.S. I agree Dolce Vita can be good but don't go before midnight or even 1 am.[/QUOTE]Steve,

I seem to remember you found a nice girl at Monte Carlo a trip or two back. I'm not sure you checked out 4 x 4 at the right time of day.

Anyway, it just takes one girl at 4 x 4, perhaps one at Solarium or Monte Carlo and maybe a pick-up at Dolce Vita or an escort site.

As you indicate for a larger buffet of hot young women, go to Sao Paulo.

There's nothing wrong with prioritizing mongering above beaches and tourist activities.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3074506]Steve,

I seem to remember you found a nice girl at Monte Carlo a trip or two back. I'm not sure you checked out 4 x 4 at the right time of day.

Anyway, it just takes one girl at 4 x 4, perhaps one at Solarium or Monte Carlo and maybe a pick-up at Dolce Vita or an escort site.

As you indicate for a larger buffet of hot young women, go to Sao Paulo.

There's nothing wrong with prioritizing mongering above beaches and tourist activities.[/QUOTE]Yes you have a good memory. I have had some really great girls at Monte Carlo. But that was a few years ago. Not as good last time but def found one to fuck. And same at 4 x4. Found one to fuck and it was fine. Just trying to set expectations for the guys. All the clubs in Rio are like the size of the puny upstairs bar at Casarao. And maybe 1/20 the size of Scandallo.

Heck you could fit MC, solarium, and 4 x4 all inside the restaurant at Scan. LOL.

A guy can have fun in Rio. No doubt. Just not even in the same league as SP.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3074536]
Heck you could fit MC, solarium, and 4 x4 all inside the restaurant at Scan. LOL.
[/QUOTE]Exactly, I think Casablanca bar is the size of my living room.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3074487]Just make a better offer (more money)! LOLOLOLOL![/QUOTE]More money can certainly get you any two girls of your choosing in the room with you, but it will not guarantee a great 3-way.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDMqq_fH8U&list=RDAIDMqq_fH8U&start_radio=1[/URL]

"I'll get you anything my friend if it makes you feel alright. 'Cause I don't care too much for money. But money can't buy me love.

Say you don't need no diamond rings and I'll be satisfied. Tell me that you want the kind of things that money just can't buy. I don't care too much for money. Money can't buy me love".

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3074570]More money can certainly get you any two girls of your choosing in the room with you, but it will not guarantee a great 3-way.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDMqq_fH8U&list=RDAIDMqq_fH8U&start_radio=1[/URL]

"I'll get you anything my friend if it makes you feel alright. 'Cause I don't care too much for money. But money can't buy me love.

Say you don't need no diamond rings and I'll be satisfied. Tell me that you want the kind of things that money just can't buy. I don't care too much for money. Money can't buy me love".[/QUOTE]Who said anything about love? We're just trying to fuck! LOL! Anyway, it was just a joke. Geez!

So, I am in Rio for 5 days now. In brief -- everything is very sad, like 50% of rumba and vibe of my last visit 6 month ago.

Updates on cheap or budget monger scene:

1. New place discovered by flyer. Are. Do Rosario, 156 - Centro, first floor. Mansao Galax. Classic cheap trash prive, terrible rooms, cheap girls, atmosphere of decadence. From 60 rs 10 min up to 200 rs 1 hour. Had a session with young 20 yo thicc warm bouncy ass garota, 120 rs 30 min, BBBJ, but quite passive. Friday afternoon.

2. New place discovered by flyer. Praca Olavo Bilac, 28 - Centro, sala 1017, named Meraki terapias. Place is better then previous one, rooms are clean. Girls are wearing white uniforms, all thicc, all smiling, maybe 6's at best. Prices I believe are the same more or less. Every garota tell her list of services. Although there was one with nice face I was craving a slim young diamond in mud, so I did not session. Monday afternoon.

Goddamn face ID on the entrance, with electronic card system. At least 3-4 persons know where are you going.

3. Belprazer. Total disaster. Saturday afternoon, 8 ladies, all old, all fat, one had literally 1984 tattoo on her neck. Only one quite saved the day, you may know her. Maite, freak-style slim morena with big butterfly tattoo on her neck, they use her photos on websites. Sessioned 1 h20 min for 360 reais. Anal included, CBJ.

Take a note, they are installing tourniquets before elevators, so now you will have to show your ID and face verification there too.

4. Emporio Horus. Same building, 2 locations. Sala 1630 and sala 710. Very hot receptionist opened the door and told me no full service, we work only with tantra shmantra stimulacao manual. Fuck this shit, I am so tired of this, I urge you comrades to ignore such places, so this stupid practice die in vain!

5. Dudas. Same disaster as Belprazer on Monday noon. Luneup of crackheads from LA streets. Chose one feminine looking and behaving MILF. Paid for 1 h + 20 min 200+120=320 reais hoping to get a nice massage and 2 pops. Altitude changed in the room, she turned to a hag. Asked +50 rs for BBBJ and +150 for anal. Poor vagina hygiene. Mood was ruined, I dumped and went to reception to refund for additional 20 min which they gave me with no objections.

6. Onyx, same building. Yep, you can't just use elevator to move from 33th floor to 22th. You have to go to 1st floor and redo your face ID permission. Good thing I have my passport photoshopped. Aaaand it is already saved in their system, they recognized me from my last visit 6 month ago. Big Brother is watching.

Anyway, Monday noon, one bubbly nice but too voluptuous lady around 30 yo, one young nice but bored bitchy face no boobs at all branca, and one slim MILF almost GILF. Guess what, did not session.

7. Dayrelax. Rua Sete de Setembro, 55 , room 1805, senor is writing your data in the guestbook. Monday noon. Unfriendly receptionist, 3 garotas, nothing worth staying. No more than 5's.

8. Emporio Do banho. Monday afternoon. For some reason at reception there was the same nice and friendly lady from Belprazer reception. Presentacao first had 4 or 5 very mediocre ladies, then came 4 more, a little bit younger and more fresh. I chose Carol, non-enthusiastic 20 yo short Latina mulata. She was not glad that I chose her. For some reason the rare young and sexy garota show no enthusiasm, while old fat ones show very strong desire to have me as a client.

Anyway. Nice skin, nice firm ass, nice hair. Good feeling but routine BBBJ, change couple positions, I came, she left when I was in shower. 40 min 160 reais.

I am ok with non-enthusiastic young garota for 120-160 reais 1 pop, but damn, I used to find real diamonds in that mud, and there are none left. I hope Eden and Delirio Oriental still have them.

9. Urugaiana 24 indeed has 4 floors and 4 casas full of trash privee garotas. Did not enter, but locals confirm.

Gatito Safado will return with more reviews of secret trash termas and casas.

Stay tuned for my next post with review of boates and termas!

Seems there a lot of SP lovers in the Rio forum. Don't let there opinions bother you. In Rio you can have all the fun you want at reasonable prices. Rio needs time and patience. Which most mongers don't have. Paying 2 k for a chica in Scandallo negates whatever beauty she has. From Perola Negra to Paris Cafe, Monte Carlo, Dolve Vita, 4 x 4 to the Prives. Rio has has all the goodies to offer and also things to do and the beach. Beach is a game changer. I met a barely legal girl from Photoacompahantes, whose learning English and her sister works in England. I met another stunner at Paris Cafe and had to wait for her to finish her session with a monger and she also spoke English. I know meet girls on the street as my Porto improves. Classico beach club Barra is another fantastic spot.

I have been doing both Cities and its Rio for me any day. I spend more time and Rio and a few in SP. Advice to mongers is to do a bit of research on this forum, GPArena, Gp [URL]Guia.net[/URL] and other places.

Once you arrive in Rio at whatever time of the day, you can feel the vibe and energy. SP feels soulless and cold. Only thing to do is wait for evening and hit the usual spots.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3074536]Yes you have a good memory. I have had some really great girls at Monte Carlo. But that was a few years ago. Not as good last time but def found one to fuck. And same at 4 x4. Found one to fuck and it was fine. Just trying to set expectations for the guys. All the clubs in Rio are like the size of the puny upstairs bar at Casarao. And maybe 1/20 the size of Scandallo.

Heck you could fit MC, solarium, and 4 x4 all inside the restaurant at Scan. LOL.

A guy can have fun in Rio. No doubt. Just not even in the same league as SP.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;3074482]Here is another plump, round, branca "boo boo" I found at Quatro por Quatro, even after it's overall decline. WyattEarp knows how much I love a branca bunda plumper (my Kryptonite)! So, so many over the years found at 4 X4! Never failed to find at least one or two every single visit! Even if quality has most certainly fallen off. Hell, one or two per visit is all I really need![/QUOTE]Ironically, cornholing became a popular pastime in Brazil because the Portuguese-Catholic colonists wanted to protect women's virgin pussies for wedlock. However, men still wanted to bust nuts. So, they made a compromise and started fucking women up the ass. It also, served as a birth control method that still allowed them to fuck bareback before the pill.

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3074633]......Stay tuned for my next post with review of boates and termas![/QUOTE]Definitely will.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3074593]Who said anything about love? We're just trying to fuck! LOL! Anyway, it was just a joke. Geez![/QUOTE]I am joking with you too, man.

Just substitute the word "love" in the song with can't buy me "a passionate 3-way" and you will get my drift.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;3074681]Paying 2 k for a chica in Scandallo negates whatever beauty she has. I have been doing both Cities and its Rio for me any day. Once you arrive in Rio at whatever time of the day, you can feel the vibe and energy. SP feels soulless and cold. Only thing to do is wait for evening and hit the usual spots.[/QUOTE]Nobody should be paying a Scandallo tute 2,000 reals. With the current exchange rate, I say 1,500 max, and even that is too high really. But I agree, there is still a whole lot of fun to be had in Rio. Rio will always hold a special place in my heart because that was my first experience with Brazil, and I was hooked! Now, I can't go to Brazil without visiting both Rio and Sao Paulo (which took me too long to discover). They're both still good with different pluses and minuses. Plus Salvador will be in my itinerary for the first time later this year. Looking forward to yet another month-long journey! Flying down there fucking all those pretty brancas and morenas! Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm!

I am posting in Rio thread for guys planning trip logistics to visit both cities.

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BTW you have several options for travel Rio-So Paulo and reverse.

Most expensive option is last minute plane reservations directly with airline. It will be $400 usd to $700 USD one way, better to book with an airline consolidator for half the price. side note: if you can apply for e-visa you can apply for CPF number online, easy peasy as most of the paperwork you need is similar

Use BlaBla Car or one of the intercity Uber /99/ Car ride options. Drive time between Panda Motel Botafoga and Scandallo via Jabaquara station is six hours.

Onibus the luxury bus is inexpensive option $100 brl to $180 brl, sleeper bed, you can leave at night sleep on luxury bus arrive AM in Sao Paulo or AM in Rio.

Rent a car, with US Passport & valid State drivers liscense & credit card you can rent a decent car, drive one way, take flight or bus return or.

Rent a car, with US Passport, valid State drivers liscense, credit card, add your favorite responsisble garota as a driver, get her ass to drive, to Rio or to SP, benefit is to find roma romantic sex spots to bang her along the way. Plenty of love motels enroute.

The roads are fairly decent. She gets a free one way trip to Rio or So Paulo.

Air travel by plane is fastest if you can book one month in advance. I have secured $75 USD round trip tickets.

CGH to SDU or SDU to CGH month in advance, and always choose the option to dynamically change the flight fare.

Many times doing a threeway in Dudas with a fresh newbie garota and a mature one, and changed flight on app to leave later at night cause the session was going great.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3074770] But I agree, there is still a whole lot of fun to be had in Rio. Rio will always hold a special place in my heart because that was my first experience with Brazil, and I was hooked! Now, I can't go to Brazil without visiting both Rio and Sao Paulo (which took me too long to discover). They're both still good with different pluses and minuses. Plus Salvador will be in my itinerary for the first time later this year. Looking forward to yet another month-long journey! Flying down there fucking all those pretty brancas and morenas! Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm![/QUOTE]Agreed. To me, a Brazil trip doesn't feel complete unless I spend some time in both cities. Sure Rio doesn't have one venue with the quantity-quality combination that you have in the São Paulo clubs. But I always fine one I like and I love the city.

I've been to scandallo, which is good for using the entrada to have the sushi, but for the entrada, you can actually fuck for an hour (260 with the reviewer on gp-guia dot net discount) at miruna or the moema prives (may we take a moment to remember abg), and instead go to tako sushi in liberdade for the all you can eat rodizio, which is how locals in the know (abg) would do it.

Now in Rio.

1. temekeria sushi in ipanema (like the casarao neighborhood of rio), then walk over to centaurus. You can drop your entire 2500 r withdrawal at bradesco (500 usd) in a night at centaurus, which has a really nice pool in the bathroom. You can't do laps, you can take a bath. Go there to get numbers, or I can give you the numbers of nicole whose ass I had in my bed in the transamerica hotel ie, hotel California (I now live in a new hotel California, actually ON THE BEACH at p3 barra).

2. temekeria sushi rodizio in barra, then perola negra.

Now.

Brazilian ass. There is always an ass in the Monica mattos, mayara rodriquez class at centaurus and perola negra (entrada 50 r BTW, and it is SAFE, and it is on the beach, did I say, it is on the beach?

Your penis can at most fuck 4 but probably 1 asses and pussies a day (last night I blew two loads fucking a usual negra, 300 r pernoite, and she is next to me as I type this).

In January, when toastmonger was here, the Monica mattos ass at Centaurus was thais. 20 year old, maybe 19, Monica mattos ass. She pulled aside her panties and actually showed me her actual asshole in the smoking room. I was wearing muay thai shorts, having just come from muay thai with actual 20 year old gringa ricas so I was the prize, all hopped up on dopamine, legit renewable drugs. I had a 1. 5 liter of water. I laughed at her, and she laughed -- just a little -- when I told her, I am a male prostitute, for you I will give a discount, you pay me say 300 r and I will give you a baby that goes to UCLA on the dime of gavin newsom, that faggot. Eu sou gogo boy, por voce vou fazer desconto.

In July, now, the Monica mattos ass is raika who pole dances. 21 maybe 22. Monica mattos anus taint and vaginal lips that are tight, suckable, genetically perfect. She spreads them, 8 feet in the air, while wrapping her lean, tanned, morena legs around a silver pole, thick as my erect German bratwurst, which gets more phallic and inflated from watching her. She will not give me her number, but others do. It is a numbers game.

Now.

Men.

See the attached pictures.

Rihanna, on a surfboard, ass spread in rio is your goal. Every day, there are new 18 year old rihannas by the dozens -- not the hundreds -- coming out of the favelas like milk dripping out of the breasts of a pregnant russian chick impaled by german dick. So come fuck them. On an actual beach. On the other hand, in scandallo, you are PAYING for beach wall paper, you are PAYING for some IT guy to put that picture of rihana on a surfboard in an actual Rio de Janeiro beach on a smart screen. Why? Money. Because rents are cheaper in SP, so more IT workers can type for their bosses in SP, so their bosses can go to scandallo. OK, fair. 'nuff said. Or you could if you actually are rich, be on a real beach, in rio. Not sayin, just sayin.

Exhibit 2: a photo of a monica mattos quality ass and pussy made by me, sir vagabundo the sixty ninth, Hi priest of the pimp legion of doom, in rio de janeiro, at the panda hotel. Here in barra, we have hotel dunas.

To wit.

Finis.

[QUOTE=Combo;3074883]Agreed. To me, a Brazil trip doesn't feel complete unless I spend some time in both cities. Sure Rio doesn't have one venue with the quantity-quality combination that you have in the So Paulo clubs. But I always fine one I like and I love the city.[/QUOTE]

Foreign Internal Defense. A History of Violence.

I fucked Anne Amari 3 times, twice last night, once this morning. One position, short, but shot a load from a real bare pussy.

Now, waiting for her to leave, playing chris isaak via HDMI cable, she is upselling, cleaning services, etc. The constant battle. I hit the bag with leather gloves for 3 rounds on a decathlon bag, she comes up in between, and she says, I want to smoke, so she goes into the bathroom with the locked door, where we have fought before in 2 previous apartments.

I have my usual acai / boiled egg breakfast. She delays. I want to swim laps, 50 m in 50 seconds.

Obviously need to find a English speaking loira who is a good secretaria / emfermera.

Selah.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;3074977]I've been to scandallo, which is good for using the entrada to have the sushi,[/QUOTE]I will give you this Vagabundo: Rihanna looks pretty hot. If you are doing girls like her, you are doing OK.

But, your Scan suggestions are hooey. The entrance fee is a lot of money to pay for sushi with cream cheese. You won't pay near as much money if you take your lady friend to one of Sao Paulo's 5-star, world class, sushi joints. Far better sushi plus 4 to 6 drinks for around the same price as Scans cover charge entry fee. But when I get hungry at Scan, which is usually in between sessions, I will go the Scan restaurant (sometimes with or sometimes without a girl accompanying me) and I will order a steak, or a burger, or chicken Caesar salad or the Salmon Carpaccio (marinated raw fish, Italian style).

Rock on.

I actually doubt our rio celebrity ever set foot into sp top boates, while at the same time hyping rio's trash places as the best puta places in the world. Even in Rio he seems to avoid the very few (more expensive) places with a higher chance of good looking girls (DV, Casablanca). Instead selling the illusion to get the same hot chicks for cheap at mimosa, mosaico etc. So why should he visit Scan?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3075020]I will give you this Vagabundo: Rihanna looks pretty hot. If you are doing girls like her, you are doing OK.

But, your Scan suggestions are hooey. The entrance fee is a lot of money to pay for sushi with cream cheese. You won't pay near as much money if you take your lady friend to one of Sao Paulo's 5-star, world class, sushi joints. Far better sushi plus 4 to 6 drinks for around the same price as Scans cover charge entry fee. But when I get hungry at Scan, which is usually in between sessions, I will go the Scan restaurant (sometimes with or sometimes without a girl accompanying me) and I will order a steak, or a burger, or chicken Caesar salad or the Salmon Carpaccio (marinated raw fish, Italian style).

Rock on.[/QUOTE]

Anyone knows a reliable website to buy bus tickets in Brazil using American credit card with out CPF number?

Just got burned with clickbus for $100. No confirmation or email and charged my credit card.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;3074681]Seems there a lot of SP lovers in the Rio forum. Don't let there opinions bother you. In Rio you can have all the fun you want at reasonable prices. Rio needs time and patience. [/QUOTE]Well said Tribute15 ! Really nothing to add to your excellent summary. Though I'm not quite as down on SP, we make of each destination what we choose to think and plan and do, and a vast city like SP offers many options. But yeah, it is hard to compete with the vibe of Rio and the beach. Like Combo, I find myself gravitating to keep both cities in the mix on trips to Brazil.

The "rivalry" that exists between Paulistas and Cariocas is kind of funny. On a prior trip I took a Portuguese class in Rio and one day it came up as a topic of discussion. I remember someone shared an instagram video of some awkward tour guide in SP giving a city tour to a small group of people, and all the guide did was give a short, boring description of one building after another after another. It was a skit, clearly mocking SP as nothing but a dull concrete jungle. I don't fully agree with this characterization, but I get the gist and the video was pretty funny. I looked and looked but can't find the video, or I would have linked it. Instead, let me leave this one I came across instead.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUwS0tuALft/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3075116]Anyone knows a reliable website to buy bus tickets in Brazil using American credit card with out CPF number?

Just got burned with clickbus for $100. No confirmation or email and charged my credit card.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me. I had to go to the bus station in person to get my bus ticket. I got burned for BRL 250. Clickbus is shit. Got stuck at the "Criando seu Pedido" box. Never got any sort of email confirmation or confirmation code, however they did manager to charge my google pay account. Cost of doing business in brazil. It's times like these when I realize how far ahead of everyone else the USA is in terms of websites and technology.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3075325]Same thing happened to me. I had to go to the bus station in person to get my bus ticket. I got burned for BRL 250. Clickbus is shit. Got stuck at the "Criando seu Pedido" box. Never got any sort of email confirmation or confirmation code, however they did manager to charge my google pay account. Cost of doing business in brazil. It's times like these when I realize how far ahead of everyone else the USA is in terms of websites and technology.[/QUOTE]Last time I traveled to Brazil, I wanted to try Azul or LATAM for some domestic flights, but their sites sucked so bad that I gave up and booked with GOL instead, whose site has always worked perfectly for me every single time. I'm putting the finishing touches on the logistics for my next trip to Brazil. Let's see what happens this time. Once you find one that works, probably best to just stick with it.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3075328]Last time I traveled to Brazil, I wanted to try Azul or LATAM for some domestic flights, but their sites sucked so bad that I gave up and booked with GOL instead, whose site has always worked perfectly for me every single time. I'm putting the finishing touches on the logistics for my next trip to Brazil. Let's see what happens this time. Once you find one that works, probably best to just stick with it.[/QUOTE]For my trip to Brazil, I flew on Air Canada from Toronto to Rio and from SP back to Toronto. But for my flights from Rio to Foz do Iguazu and then to SP, it was all on Latam without any issues with tickets booked in advance from home using their website. Don't know why it didn't work for you.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3075355]For my trip to Brazil, I flew on Air Canada from Toronto to Rio and from SP back to Toronto. But for my flights from Rio to Foz do Iguazu and then to SP, it was all on Latam without any issues with tickets booked in advance from home using their website. Don't know why it didn't work for you.[/QUOTE]It could be that their site has improved since. I will be booking some flights soon and will have a look as I scrounge around for the best prices and schedules.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3075116]Anyone knows a reliable website to buy bus tickets in Brazil using American credit card with out CPF number?

Just got burned with clickbus for $100. No confirmation or email and charged my credit card.[/QUOTE]My experience as a US Passport holder in Brazil (no CPF).

Buying bus tickets without a CPF.

The easiest option if you don't have a CPF is to buy your ticket in person.

So Paulo: Go to Terminal Rodovirio Tiet with your US Passport. The ticket office will issue your ticket without a CPF. I paid with a credit card.

Rio de Janeiro: Same deal at Terminal Rodovirio Novo Rio (Novo Rio). Just walk up to the ticket counter with your passport and pay by credit card.

Ordering stuff online without a CPF.

Before I got my own CPF, with consent to help me out I used a friendly (garota) CPF to order things online. We were banging all the time and she loves getting gifts delivered.

I always used my own name and my Airbnb address or her address for delivery. It worked fine for iFood, Shopee, and Mercado Livre, Flowers delivered to her on Valentine day. Kkk.

Getting a CPF is by far the easiest solution!!

Honestly, the best thing I did was apply for my own CPF online.

Dude I applied by email on a Thursday and received my CPF by email the following Tuesday. The only delay was because my signature had to exactly match my US Passport signature page.

The nice part is that almost all of the documents I had already gathered for the Brazil e-Visa were the same ones needed for the CPF application.

After getting my CPF, I changed my iPhone region to Brasil so I could download the Brasilian versions of apps ifood, shoppee, uber brasilian version for sending uber gift cards to garotas to meet me in love motel. No more dealing with No CPF number headache at TIM & VIVO. Best part was getting local pricing on a lot stuff or when I registered online at high end restaurants using their QR code got discounts & cash back on expensive meals as loyal first time customer. When I got back to the USA, I switched the region back to US (when I remembered) kkk.

I swear Brasil should just issue every foreigner a CPF number when they arrive at GRU or GIG airport for a US $10 fee. They'the make a even more money. 😂.

If you want the easiest walkthrough, brother TMAX has the best video I've found on youtube.

TMAX How to Get a CPF Fast, Easy & Free (YouTube).

Or just Google:

TMAX "how to get CPF fast easy free".

Believe me I kicked myself for not doing it sooner. Ironically From the date You posted to my response date you could have been well on your way to receiving your own CPF i
in a day or two.

Here is some summary of my last 1,5 weeks on Rio. Part 1.

1. Marrakesh went full scam mode. Went there on Sunday because not many boates are open this day. Entrance is 100 reais now, 1 drink included. Maybe 10 garotas at max, all 25+. Shark behaviour. Talked to the slimmiest one, standard dialogue, standard "enthusiasm" from her side untill I offer her a drink. Senhorita fancied a champagne for 2500 reais, and simple caipirinha was not good for her, the lowest she could accept is cocktail for 750 reais. When I refused, her enthusiasm disappeared, I finished my drink and left.

This is always puzzling me. I fckng have more than 2500 reais in my pocket right now. I am willing to spend it in your fckng shitty boate. Give me the nice girl, nice bed action, I am ready to pay for entrance, for my drink, for ladydrink, for the room etc. Give me this and you will have my 2500 reais. No, you want it all right now for nothing. No surprise, boate was dead empty at midnight. Same shit happened to me in Colombian clubs, I was heavily scammed like this in Istanbul, so any similar attempt gives me a Vietnam flashbacks.

2. Checked Espaco Zen (Cancun) in Centro on Friday. Situated near nightclub Trauma for freaks and transsexuals. Small club, but still felt empty. Maybe 5 garotas, nothing special, however there are a lot of local senores coming and leaving. I did not even make 3 steps inside, felt depressive atmosphere and left. Receptionist tried to charge me the entrance fee, but manager let me go for free.

3. Monte Carlo Thursday. Short summary:

Came in around 23:00, 10-12 girls, only saw 3 other clients during all visit. Girl are nice dressed in bikini and sexy lingeries. From 6 to maybe 8's to somebody's taste. All types, big, small, loiras, morenas, 1 thicc mulata, no negritas. Chose slim 19 yo classic carioca, A-cups, firm small bunda, flat belly, classic latina face.

Nice chat, her primitive english plus my primitive Portuguese. Nice tactile contact. Went upstairs, 1 hour 2 pops. Very nice BBBJ, sex a little bit troubled because she has sore wagina, she works too much with it. Overall experience all good, face and body 7,5, GFE 8,5, action 6,5 because of aforementioned problems, room 7.

Damage: entrance 180, room suite with shower 300, girl 500, caipirinha 45, juice for garota 25, tips to garota 50.1100 in total. There is 40 min option, 180 for room, 350 for girl, 180 entrance, total will be 710.

Visited again next Friday around midnight. Everything is quiet, couple of clients, 10 sad garotas, noone to my taste, just lost money for entrance.

4. 4 x4 Friday around midnight. Actually they have 2 spaces now, old small bar area and a new long lounge downstairs. Many girls, a lot of clients, asian oldmen, russian drunks on courage, local brasilians. Girls are not approaching, but they stare intently and encouragingly at you. I made a classic mistake, did not approach a very beautiful (by face) garota, sat for a while in the corner watching all garotas. Aaaand she was taken by two local men. I mean she was really attractive and stylish, easily like weather forecast TV girl on spanish, Portuguese or greek television. My bad, will look for her during my next visit.

Instead I went downstairs and chose slim tall very active girl-next-door named Liz. For some reason I got king suit that was in fact a sultan suit for 90 minutes only for 880 reais, all included exept drinks! Way cheaper than Monte Carlo! We had jacuzzi and mirrored walls. She was insatiable, and demanded more and more. BBBJ, 2 pops, no anal.

4 x4 again next Thursday around midnight. Came with one single goal. Find that beauty that I missed last time. She was sitting in the same corner. When she said her name. Olivia, I got it. She looks exactly like Olivia Wilde (and sometimes like Lena Hedley from GoT, when she is sucking my schlong). I have a mixed and ambiguous experience to report. Did I have almost 3 hours of her company with close contact, enjoying her beautiful face? Yes. Did I have 2 pops in various positions and BBBJ? Yes. Did we eat a surprisingly good chopped meat with fries? Also yes.

At the same time:

- she is 34 yo with 2 kids.

- high on some crappy weed and drunk on 3! Redbull-gin drinks.

- engaged in a fight with a waiter.

- engaged in a conflict with a creep client to protect her friend. Creep was tearing apart garota's clothing when she was dancing for him, and then sat in front of us for 30 min to stalk my Olivia.

- when we got to the room, she disappeared for 20 minutes to buy weed. I did my 1st pop only after 40 min after entering the room.

- she proposed massage, but quickly started to masturbate using my ass as a frotting surface, LOL.

A night to remember. It could be that 12 out of 10 experience, but no. Total damage was around 1100 rs. Caipirinha 40 rs, ladydrink 72 rs, ladyfood 90 rs.

5. Solarium Saturday around 10 pm. Way more quiet than 4 x4, but still had some drive. 15-20 garotas max, all types, nicely dressed in lingerie. Did not see my choices from last visit, but definitely saw some garotas, who still works there after 6 months. This time I fancied an instagram bimbo. I don't know how it works, but once I thought "enough with slim Latinas, I want gorgeous spectacular girl" and here we are, literally Stiffler's mom (from American Pie), but younger and wearing more "modern" instagram makeup. Nickname Petala.

She speaks really good English. Communication was warm but professional. Took only 40 minutes, and got a small room without shower or sink. She refused to do BBBJ, and asked +300 rs for anal. She is looking good but this is artificial beauty, total bolt-on as you say here. Including some liposuction, that made her back look like she was disconnected from Matrix, LOL. And unable to slam that ass.

Overall good experience, but expected more from Solarium.

Damage: 680 rs for 40 min plus drinks.

Solarium again next Saturday. Decided to test my luck and find a dream girl. Went around 10 pm, aaaand it is global sausage fest. White bathrobes everywhere, just drinking and staring at girls. 30+ clients and 20+ garotas. All 6's-7's max, average faces, 25-30 year old, big asses, big bellies. Despite being Saturday night again, girls were all different from my visit one week ago.

Chose the only fit bodied mulata with "afro" haircut, named Lira. Very good body, flat belly, round hips, natural fresh Acups. Face wasn't my type, but she was the best in boate to my taste that night. Chatted for some time, established close contact, went for 1 hour to standard room. She was not fully opened and relaxed in the beginning, so she showed some attitude. After first round she relaxed a bit. Very good BBBJ, however I had to ask her to do it harder. Avoided ball licking and ass slapping (which is a crime with such a gorgeous ass). Popped once, relaxed and talked for 30 minutes, another round went longer because she used too much lube. Anyway finished (my 4th pop today), can rate action as 7.

Damage this time: entrance 150, room 220, garota 590, also 60 caipirinha, 17 agua de coco for her (she does "academia", so no alcohol).

Global prices in Solarium: 40 min 680 rs, 1 h standard 900 rs, 1 h premium 980 rs, not including drinks.

6. Casablanca Sunday after midnight.

Entrance 100, one drink included. Not much action, but luneup is about 10 garotas, all no more than 6-7's. Unlike 6 months ago nobody was dancing a strip-show. They still accept only champagne as a ladydrink, but are ok to communicate without it, unlike Marrakesh.

Well, I am not a "boobs" guy, not an "ass" guy, I am "face" guy. So I finally chose a nice latina, who resembles Scarlet Johansson and Sandra Bullock at the same time. Shoulder length black hair, dazzling white teeth. Nickname Valentina.

I actually spoke to her 6 month ago, she was again the prettiest one in that club that night. She had longer hair, no boobs and absolutely no interest in conversation with me. Now she has mediocre boobjob, shorter hair and suddenly warm attitude. What happened, I asked her directly after we had our action? Well blablabla a lot of things changed blablabla I am a different person now blablabla. Hehehe, amiga, you simply need money isn't it?

Anyway we went to their shitty small stupid room. It has not changed since 2021. Most uncomfortable room amont all boates on Rio. No sink either. Nice quick session, CBJ. 300 rs to house, 800 rs to garota. If you want go outside it is 600 rs barfine, 1500 to garota to takeout.

6 month ago I had there an ultra intense session with english speaking blonde, one of the most beautiful and active garota ever in my life. It was not even a GFE level, it was Kpop fan girl meeting her male idol. She is not coming to Casablanca anymore.

7. Paris Cafe, Barra de Tijuca. As you may have suspected, it is not an outstanding best-in-the-world boate, according to you know who, LOL. It is regular boate at the same level with "Wiskeria 65", way worse than 4 x4 or Solarium. Went there Monday around 11 pm. While I was talking with receptionist downstairs, I already felt predatory stares from the bar upstairs. Inside is quite spacious, no more than 10 garotas, 1 other client. Yeah. Was attacked by short Blondie / Marilyn Monroe / prostitute-from-1940's-noir-movie-style fake blonde and her contrasting tall indigenous manauara friend. Had an intense chat, quite friendly, girls promised full lesbian action, even kissed to prove it. Wanted to take 1,5 hours, but they tricked me to take 2 x 1 hour x 2 garotas, which would be 2300+ reais. Paid 1080 first (did not receive 20 rs change from 1100), and then after first 45 minutes stupid receptionist came to the room in the middle of the "fun", demanding remaining payment. Girls constantly demanded beer.

Blondie worked good with drunk passion, but smoked too much. Amazona avoided contact as much as possible. Both sucked only in condom, I have sore throat hurr durr, I have braces hurr durr. I did get some lesbian show, simultaneous CBJ and pussy licking. Maybe for 1 minute in total. All remaining time they talked, smoked sigarets and marijuana, drinked beer etc. They smoked so much, I got my throat fcked, 6 days later I still cough my intestines out.

Action with blondie was good, dirty slutty action, but second session with manauara took 3 attempts, because of her poor enthusiasm, going to toilet at the last moment, not bending and other shit.

They demanded salgados at the end, I refused, but receptionist still charged me for it and non-consumed redbull. Garotas still think they performed well and contacted me next day separately, inviting for another meeting, blaming each other for my dissatisfaction, LOL.

P.S. If you go there do not take slim curly morena with big round ass, face reminds a little bit an actress Shannon Elizabeth from American Pie movie. She stole a car of the customer and got caught by police. Garotas maked fun of her and even showed me the videos from Google, so it is real story!

Price list in Paris club:

One girl 30 m /40 m /60 m /90 m is respecfully 360/440/550/900 rs.

Two girls 30 m /40 m /60 m /90 m is respecfully 390/470/590/950 rs for each girl. Take out is 1450 rs.

8. Perola Negra. Tuesday night. Maybe 20 garotas, most of them on "plus size" side. I mean too fat. Same amount of clients. Saw a couple of "baddies" garotas, but they were taken. Finally, one very slim tanned trigenia came to the room and I invited her to my table. Please somebody tell plastic surgeons that female breasts are waterdrop-shaped, not a perfectly-round-baseball-ball-shaped god dammit! I can't beleive they still do such mediocre boobjob these days after what I saw in Thailand. Anyway, her name is Eduarda, and she looks like that russian skinny onlyfans twins (adelalinka from Kazan).

Some chat, took her for 40 minutes for okayish room. Had to insist on BBBJ, she eventually complied. Skinny ass, nice look and nice action. Damage around 600 rs total.

Next week came again for additional session. Place is quiet, all garotas fat and old. I craved fit skinny ass again, and finally one tall model looking garota came to room. Young Instagram face with lip-fillers. Absolutely ignored my looks. Some desperate garotas tried to attack me but I used one of them to invite this intouchable princess to my table. She came, squeezed out a couple of standard phrases, ordered expensive cocktail and shut tf up. Ridiculous situation, I finished my caipirinha and left. Why TF are you coming to this place? You need money? Work! You don't like this job? GTFO! You don't like me? Why did you eventually come to my table? I simply don't understand it. Saw her another night sitting with dumb face with some local thugs at rua Olegario Maciel restaurant, hehehe.

9. Had to skip Wednesday night action due to being sick, severe cough, blocked nose and high body temperature.

10. Famous Centaurus Friday night. Indeed it became a sharktank. In Monte Carlo girls also attack you, forming so called "parede de futebol", but at least they do it in a funny and somehow cute way. Here in Centaurus 30+ big ass garotas storm you at once, talking simultaneously. Very intimidating. If you manage to get your drink and take a seat, they will follow you and then attack in waves of 3 garotas each. I am experienced hobbyist, but that was hard. Nobody was to my taste. Finally talked to short 22 yo half-carioca half-manauara nicknamed Baby. Dios, I didn't even ask her name, not during conversation, nor after amor. It became a conveyor line of faces, names, boobs and asses.

She has nice face from certain angle, she speaks English and she wouldn't shup up about how much she loves her son (6 yo, you do the math, ah-huh) and how much she wants to see him again, and will I give her tips? Ordered a "cheap" cocktail, which cost 100 rs, cheap my ass. Went to the room for 40 minutes, got non-professional but very enthusiastic massage, CBJ and okayish action.

She asked again if I give her tips, well the correct answer should be "No", but I gave her 50 rs for massage.

Price list Centaurus: 40 min 730 rs, 1 h 1090 rs. Entrance 180, room 220 for 40 min, 330 to garota.

Short intermediate results of 1,5 week of visiting Rio's boates and termas: BBBJ only in 50% of cases, very few cuties, almost no 8's and 9's. Prices got a little bit higher since January. More scams, more greed, less GFE.

I will continue to report on boates and also on massage place and online action.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3075116]Anyone knows a reliable website to buy bus tickets in Brazil using American credit card with out CPF number?

Just got burned with clickbus for $100. No confirmation or email and charged my credit card.[/QUOTE]I used BUSBUD.

They have an App which is way easier and you can switch the currency from brl to usd.

They also let you choose the seat options. I wanted a leito cama from my trip to SP to RJ and some of the other bus websites only let you choose the cheapest options and if you wanted to upgrade you needed to call or book in person. Stupid.

I actually fell asleep for my first bus and had to rebook for another. It was $30 so not a big deal. Bought the tickets the day before and they have all the bus companies.

I think they needed your passport number to ID you since no CPF but that's understandable. You can pay with any credit card.

I think I used clickbus too last time and they would never go through. I tried like 5 times and it would just stop working after adding my payment. luckily i found busbud and got one even though i missed the first one lol

Gatito Safado don't ever accept CBJs from these hoors man! Get those hoors on record agreeing to BBBJs [B]before[/B] you go to the room. If they don't agree, them tell them to step off! And if they do agree, but then get to the room and balk, then hold your ground and make them keep their word. And if they won't, then end the session immediately and leave! A CBJ in Brazil is anathema!

First of all Gatito — great reports and spot on with my observations. Marakesh huge waste of time. Centaurus a shark tank and going to get fleeced if you are a newbie. Etc.

But most of all — what a description of Valentina at Casa Blanca. When you said "a mix of Scarlett Johansson and Sandra Bullock" I was like "I know her. I've fucked that girl". That was so spot on. I went back and my notes from May 2025 say her name was Valentina and she had the tiniest A cups. I happened upon her on her third day there (I believe it. Because when I told her the onsite room was a closet with a mattress she was visibly shocked &#128563. She was a truly nice girl back then and we had the best time dancing at Dolce Vita and then back to the Hilton. She was really great and a hard worker. I hope the year at Casa hasn't hardened her too much.

P.S. Other than the shocking exit fee at Casa, dancing with your own girl at DV is a high recommend. She was drinking Aperol Spritz at regular customer prices and no weird exit fee because I brought her. Was a great time.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3075613]Gatito Safado don't ever accept CBJs from these hoors man! Get those hoors on record agreeing to BBBJs [B]before[/B] you go to the room. If they don't agree, them tell them to step off! And if they do agree, but then get to the room and balk, then hold your ground and make them keep their word. And if they won't, then end the session immediately and leave! A CBJ in Brazil is anathema![/QUOTE]+1. Never accept a CBJ in Brazil. For me I might as well fuck the dog as get a CBJ. Rarely a problem if you agree up front. And any girl that won't agree is not worth taking.

Does Marrakech have rooms onsite? If so, I bet they are pretty crappy like at Casablanca. If I pull from either place, then I'm going back to my clean hotel room (same for Casarao in Sampa)!

[QUOTE=TheCane;3075613]Gatito Safado don't ever accept CBJs from these hoors man! Get those hoors on record agreeing to BBBJs [B]before[/B] you go to the room. If they don't agree, them tell them to step off! And if they do agree, but then get to the room and balk, then hold your ground and make them keep their word. And if they won't, then end the session immediately and leave! A CBJ in Brazil is anathema![/QUOTE]No kidding! I thought I might have been in the wrong forum when I read the original post. In 100's of encounters with Brazilian women, only one time I've been asked to use a condom for a blow job.

I'd venture to say there's no major destination in the world where your probabilities of BBBJ are higher than Brazil.

I knew Marrakesh was a clip joint, but I didn't realize to that extreme.

First off, I am getting a lot of good information for my trip next month, thank you all.

I love back women, the darker the better. Are there any termas that have more black chicas than the others?

That also includes other clubs / bars.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3075721]First off, I am getting a lot of good information for my trip next month, thank you all. I love back women, the darker the better. Are there any termas that have more black chicas than the others? That also includes other clubs / bars. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]This topic was raised recently by another poster here. The termas really aren't the best places to find a lot of black women. The prives are where you want to go for that. Yes, you will find some here and there at the termas, but I have never seen anything that I would call a lot at any single terma. Vagabundo is the resident expert when it comes to finding the best places with black women in Rio.

Let me answer all rose questions in one post, without quoting, it is difficult to insert correct quoting from mobile phone.

1. To Steve 9696. Yes, Valentina was flat as Burning Man festival site and had long hair. She was not at all "an innocent girl" 6 months ago. 3 months ago she got mediocre boobjob. See attached photo.

2. To Cane. They used to have okayish room 4 years ago, I sessioned twice with nice remarkable garotas without all this "buy me champagne" crap. 6 months ago I did not even reach the "can I buy you a drink" stage, because lineup was very bad. And did not test the rooms for the same reason. This time no luck as well.

Beware! Garotas in boate Kalabria are pulling the same champagne scam trick!

3. To TomJackin. Black queens. As much as I did not like the responses on my question about unusual experiences being "dude relax be yourself just chill and you'll get it breau. " I have to give you the same advice. Black or mulata girls are almost always present in popular boates. But only one or two or three. Yesterday I saw at least three black or mulata garotas in 4 x 4. I saw ricissima black queen in Espaco Zen Cancun. Perola Negra has them, network of 9 cheap boates (I mentioned in my first post on this topic) has them. Vila Mimosa has them 100% and a lot.

Sorry, forgot to attach the photo. Got distracted because Whatsapp suddenly blocked my account. I was not even that active for last couple of days. I suspect that I got reported by scammers from barravipsrio, who demanded to pay in advance and I mocked them.

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3075812]Sorry, forgot to attach the photo. Got distracted because Whatsapp suddenly blocked my account. I was not even that active for last couple of days. I suspect that I got reported by scammers from barravipsrio, who demanded to pay in advance and I mocked them.[/QUOTE]Yep. That's her. With new tits. Knew immediately from your description.

I also got s WhatsApp block yesterday. Very scary. Think it wa a glitch.

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3075811]......To Steve 9696. Yes, Valentina was flat as Burning Man festival site and had long hair.[/QUOTE]Unlike Burning Man, hopefully she didn't have sand up her crotch or in her butt crack.

Dust, dust blowing everywhere, is what I think of when someone mentions Burning Man.

I returned to Rio for vacation and went to Caroline's again. I went back to Rio for a vacation and visited Caroline again. She's charging 600 for a Nuru massage with oral, or 800 for Nuru plus sex. I talked her into it and managed to pay 650 for the full combo. I stayed with her for about an hour and a half. Super be Sex. She sucks really well and she is beautiful too. Only cons was that set did not let me fuck her in the ass and cum on her face. But I came on her big tits. Very Nice girl. [URL]https://www.copacabanamassagem.com/[/URL]

Has anyone been to Perda Do Sal for the street party on Monday nights?

Safe / dangerous?

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3075874]Has anyone been to Perda Do Sal for the street party on Monday nights?

Safe / dangerous?[/QUOTE]Me and my girlfriend went and Cool met us down there. I would say it is safe. Just a bunch of people chillin.

Talking Dirty.

So Vagabundo goes to a prive, makes a 18 h, then a 19 h appointment, last of the day.

CPFPM A is 250/50, so 4.93 ish, depending on the spot price of the exchange rate, which is 5. 09 today. My RF is 1 ish. I report about once for every time I fuck, sometimes I report once for fucking 4 girls.

So, I am banging this white girl (I do like the entire spectrum of women, and as noted, yes, I am prone to the negras, the mulattas, but my regular fave is a loira, a white chick, and that is part of the report). So, the wall is marked with my previous hand prints from oleo do coco, which the manager complains about, and asks me not to repeat. We get through 20 minutes of her on top of me, and we go to missionary, or them frente. And I come up with the bright idea to put on my very nice (thanks to one of you couriers of gear) mechanix black gloves with the heavy duty knuckle protectors, which I do train with on the heavy bag at muay thai. To avoid the hand prints. You see.

And, having come from a successful dental apointment in which a very pretty, very sweet, brunette and her pretty, sweet, super attractive friends poked their fingers in vagabundo's mouth to put in two temporary crowns. I was like, yeah, that tooth you put in is a little rough, I think you need to put your finger there, and she is like, there. And I am like a ittle to the left, babe. Oral fixation? Someone get me a therapist, preferably a cute woman vasco fan to analyze my oral fixation with hot young dental students.

So, I am stoked. I don't have a hole in my right upper tooth anymore, and I order an uber to centro to fuck in celebration.

So, back to the fucking in centro. I put on my gloves to fuck this girl, and we are dirty talking as usual. We have the usual conversation -- how would you torture so and so actriz? I mean, straight up ganster, medieval stuff. Whatever she likes, is good with me. Then for some reason, when I put the gloves on, along with the chest rig that carries my phones so I could if I wanted to video tape the session (SOCP vertex case, look up my previous posts) I transition into just the most inappropriate porno dialogue straight from annette schwartz's scenes on blacksonblondes, like, 'you like this big and-word dick', and she laughs really hard, which is orgasmic, in terms of the same muscles being used, and she grabs the vibrator. I mean, she has fucked like 6 times already.

But she is jamming that vibe up against her clit, laughing at this dialogue, and I have her ankels in my hands, and I am pulling her legs apart, just going off on this totally inappropriate dialogue. Inappropriate? For what? Jesus, has it gotten that bad that I am self editing on a sex tourist website?

I mean, my fucks with this girl are always pretty good, but even allowing for all the variations, this was a good fuck.

Maybe I am just happy to. Well fuck, that's the report. I mean, oleo do coco was flowing, vibe was used for 20 minutes out of 50, which is alot.

A good session.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3075874]Has anyone been to Perda Do Sal for the street party on Monday nights?

Safe / dangerous?[/QUOTE]Everyone has different level of security if going alone, its nicer to have a one local garota (garota with benefits) to explain shit the first time. So I met up with a young tall morena garota from Monte Carlo. She loves touring around town to different spots on her moto. She has no kids so can do more things together. Daytime afternoon or night on her days off.

For first time english only speakers: that don't know anyone:

Pedra do Sal*& Rocinha, easy to hire a female or dude tour guide with a moto for a few hours, wasting time getting around in rio traffic by car sucks. The guides are all over instagram if you want to check them out & reviews.

They go where you want, intro you to people, keep it look out, plus explain carioca slang, that I heard a lot. Mermão, maneiro. 0800. Coé .

[QUOTE=GatitoSafado;3075811]Black or mulata girls are almost always present in popular boates. But only one or two or three. Yesterday I saw at least three black or mulata garotas in 4 x 4. I saw ricissima black queen in Espaco Zen Cancun. Perola Negra has them, network of 9 cheap boates (I mentioned in my first post on this topic) has them. Vila Mimosa has them 100% and a lot.[/QUOTE]I wanted to send you a PM, but it was not possible.

I want to thank you for following up my question. Your reports were solid, especially the information about the termas.

Again, thanks.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3075874]Has anyone been to Perda Do Sal for the street party on Monday nights?

Safe / dangerous?[/QUOTE]I've been there many times. I would say its safe.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3075955]Everyone has different level of security if going alone, its nicer to have a one local garota (garota with benefits) to explain shit the first time. So I met up with a young tall morena garota from Monte Carlo. She loves touring around town to different spots on her moto. She has no kids so can do more things together. Daytime afternoon or night on her days off.

For first time english only speakers: that don't know anyone:

Pedra do Sal*& Rocinha, easy to hire a female or dude tour guide with a moto for a few hours, wasting time getting around in rio traffic by car sucks. The guides are all over instagram if you want to check them out & reviews.

They go where you want, intro you to people, keep it look out, plus explain carioca slang, that I heard a lot. Mermo, maneiro. 0800. Co .[/QUOTE]You don't need a guide to goto the Monday street party. I've been many times. It gets crowed if you are trying to get to the stairs. Other than that it good. Alot of people line dancing.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3076048]You don't need a guide to goto the Monday street party. I've been many times. It gets crowed if you are trying to get to the stairs. Other than that it good. Alot of people line dancing.[/QUOTE]Don't disagree it easy peasy to go there. However different dudes reading the forum have wAY different levels of comfort to experience rio and sampa.

I share what I did as a newbie years ago & no porto & did not know anyone & travelling solo. I learned how to hook up with friendly garota with a moto as a guide to experience way cool stuff.

Last time I told a guy moema was safe to walk around his cellular phone got snatch. Waiting in front entrancev. Kinda ruined his experience.

So I share my the stuff I did.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3076048]It gets crowed if you are trying to get to the stairs. Other than that it good.[/QUOTE]Good point. We got there early so we were sitting on the stairs (bring a blow up pillow). People just started coming and coming. By the time Cool got there he was able to squeeze through to walk up the steps to us, but there was no place for him to sit. Only standing. People every damn where.

I was fucking this Rihana raw 25 times overnight 9.5 weeks.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;3075595]I used BUSBUD.

They have an App which is way easier and you can switch the currency from brl to usd.

They also let you choose the seat options. I wanted a leito cama from my trip to SP to RJ and some of the other bus websites only let you choose the cheapest options and if you wanted to upgrade you needed to call or book in person. Stupid.

I actually fell asleep for my first bus and had to rebook for another. It was $30 so not a big deal. Bought the tickets the day before and they have all the bus companies.

I think they needed your passport number to ID you since no CPF but that's understandable. You can pay with any credit card.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I was able to buy tickets at brazilbybus using US credit card and passport # as ID. Now it's a long process to confirm tickets with Xavante.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3075546]My experience as a US Passport holder in Brazil (no CPF).

Buying bus tickets without a CPF.

The easiest option if you don't have a CPF is to buy your ticket in person.

So Paulo: Go to Terminal Rodovirio Tiet with your US Passport. The ticket office will issue your ticket without a CPF. I paid with a credit card.

Rio de Janeiro: Same deal at Terminal Rodovirio Novo Rio (Novo Rio). Just walk up to the ticket counter with your passport and pay by credit card.

Ordering stuff online without a CPF.

Before I got my own CPF, with consent to help me out I used a friendly (garota) CPF to order things online. We were banging all the time and she loves getting gifts delivered.

I always used my own name and my Airbnb address or her address for delivery. It worked fine for iFood, Shopee, and Mercado Livre, Flowers delivered to her on Valentine day..[/QUOTE]Thank you sir. I applied for a CPF last week. Hoping to get a response sometime this week. Let's see.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3076933]Thank you sir. I applied for a CPF last week. Hoping to get a response sometime this week. Let's see.[/QUOTE]Well, they denied my CPF application and asked me to appear in person.

Exact verbiage is we could not process your application at this time and request you to appear in person at a local office.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3077017]Well, they denied my CPF application and asked me to appear in person.

Exact verbiage is we could not process your application at this time and request you to appear in person at a local office.[/QUOTE]This is probably a naive question, but I will ask it anyway: do fake CPF numbers generated on a website work and for how long?

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3077017]Well, they denied my CPF application and asked me to appear in person.

Exact verbiage is we could not process your application at this time and request you to appear in person at a local office.[/QUOTE]As you are not from Brazil you need to go in person. It is not at all easy unless you speak pretty fair Portuguese. Unless you really really need it prob not worth your time.

So I know the best way is probably just using the ATM to get local currency, but let's say for discretion purposes I will have US Dollars. What are my best options to exchange $300-400 in Rio?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3077027]This is probably a naive question, but I will ask it anyway: do fake CPF numbers generated on a website work and for how long?[/QUOTE]I signed up for a cultural trip to attend a native ceremony in Xingu region and the tour guide advised me against using fake CPF numbers for hotel bookings and bus tickets. She said sometimes transactions gets flagged and it is almost impossible to get refunds. She said even using someone's valid CPF is not good considering it is tied to individual name.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3077035]As you are not from Brazil you need to go in person. It is not at all easy unless you speak pretty fair Portuguese. Unless you really really need it prob not worth your time.[/QUOTE]Yes, looks like it is a process and not worth spending in person time.

I gave it a shot considering I am going to do a bit of bus travel in northern Brazil this time and it would ease the process of buying bus tickets.

[QUOTE=ZuluTango25;3077017]Well, they denied my CPF application and asked me to appear in person.

Exact verbiage is we could not process your application at this time and request you to appear in person at a local office.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/7r6_Bl5UFRM?is=0CzXINHiDtE0YV4-[/URL]

Sorry to hear your experience was not smooth as mine or dozens of others.

I followed the exact guide, each and every step, outlined by brother TMAX youtube video above link and received my official CPF number doc by email in less than three business, Thur to Tues.
I never went in person or visited the RF office , and have same passport as TMAX


For Axel H A friendly brasilian garota girlfriend can be helpful on the topic of CPF. . the gov. Br has a website online to check valid CPF numbers. They also block CPF numbers for various tax reasons and legal issues.

I had "mas e meno" or "so-so" experience with those online generators. Got tired. Of the BS so I went legit.

** i kick my self not doing it sooner because my process was much easier than expected.**

Hello Members,

I saw someone created a map and list of prices in SP page. I could not find similar in this Rio page. Can someone please share it with me? I will travel to Rio and Sp in August.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3077050]So I know the best way is probably just using the ATM to get local currency, but let's say for discretion purposes I will have US Dollars. What are my best options to exchange $300-400 in Rio?[/QUOTE]You have to Google "cambio". Alot of cambios are travel agencies also. Or you can goto a Western Union, there is one in Centro that I went to.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3077062][URL]https://youtu.be/7r6_Bl5UFRM?is=0CzXINHiDtE0YV4-[/URL]

Sorry to hear your experience was not smooth as mine or dozens of others.

I followed the exact guide, each and every step, outlined by brother TMAX youtube video above link and received my official CPF number doc by email in less than three business, Thur to Tues.
I never went in person or visited the RF office , and have same passport as TMAX


For Axel H A friendly brasilian garota girlfriend can be helpful on the topic of CPF. . the gov. Br has a website online to check valid CPF numbers.[/QUOTE]Hi Tochka,

I followed the same procedure as well. In some YouTube videos they said to apply in different jurisdictions if if gets denied.

May be worth giving a shot next time.

[QUOTE=OasisSecret;3077050]So I know the best way is probably just using the ATM to get local currency, but let's say for discretion purposes I will have US Dollars. What are my best options to exchange $300-400 in Rio?[/QUOTE]You can find currency exchange places (cambios) all over Copacabana, Ipanema and Centro. If the rate sounds good from the first one, take it. If you like a deal, visit a few cambios to compare.

Banks generally do not offer competitive rates, but they do the job.

Once in a great while, some member reports that XYZ cambio on such and such street is offering a lights out rate. When the currency rate for exchanging dollars or euros into reais is better than the published market rate, I believe there's something odd going on. Perhaps some drug money is being laundered into dollars at that location for a brief period. That is really of no concern to us tourists, but interesting nonetheless.

As an anecdote, my tour guide on my first trip took me to a jeweler who gave me a great rate. Using my imagination, jewelers do a lot of business selling gold and other items to locals for cash. Gold is always a hedge against inflation especially in South America where inflation can pop up quickly. That jeweler might also want to keep some transactions off his books.

I have done a lot of research and gathered information from this thread, especially from other member's trip reports.

I have questions about 4 places:

Casanarus – does not come up in google.

Club Sexo – a poster wrote it was near Confeiteria Colombo; can't find it.

Club Mix Bar – is this place for swingers?

Club 21 De Lux – again, it does not come up in google.

I have a list of around 20 other places I want to visit.

It should make for one good trip report.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3077309]I have done a lot of research and gathered information from this thread, especially from other member's trip reports.

I have questions about 4 places:

Casanarus does not come up in google.

Club Sexo a poster wrote it was near Confeiteria Colombo; can't find it.

Club Mix Bar is this place for swingers?

Club 21 De Lux again, it does not come up in google.

I have a list of around 20 other places I want to visit.

It should make for one good trip report.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Looks like Fouche mistyped Centaurus as Casanarus.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3077309]I have done a lot of research and gathered information from this thread, especially from other member's trip reports.

I have questions about 4 places:

Casanarus does not come up in google.

Club Sexo a poster wrote it was near Confeiteria Colombo; can't find it.

Club Mix Bar is this place for swingers?

Club 21 De Lux again, it does not come up in google..[/QUOTE]Man, you have really been letting it out! All over Mexico, to Thailand and the Philippines, and now Rio (I probably left some places out too)! I look forward to your report as I know it will provide a thorough rundown on lots of places before my own trip down later this year. But I wish you were going to Sao Paulo and Salvador too (especially Salvador) so we can get some up-to-date intel from a non-hardcore Brazil monger just to gain a different perspective. Bon voyage, and safe fucking!

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3077309]I have done a lot of research and gathered information from this thread, especially from other member's trip reports.

I have questions about 4 places:

Casanarus does not come up in google.

Club Sexo a poster wrote it was near Confeiteria Colombo; can't find it.

Club Mix Bar is this place for swingers?

Club 21 De Lux again, it does not come up in google.

I have a list of around 20 other places I want to visit.

It should make for one good trip report.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try with correct spelling; Google is your friend and gemini Ai.

Click on link - [URL=https://www.google.com/search?q=centaurus+rio+de+janeiro&sca_esv=a5c3bf66a20b9aec&source=hp&ei=BFJtaovjAYXR5NoPuPvwgAQ&iflsig=ABILxe8AAAAAam1gFCUHRl6evB4JaFshqwOg8mlimo5A&gs_ssp=eJzj4tZP1zcsSUlLsSwzMGC0UjaosExKMTU0TzZONjY3NjW1MqhINLc0M7QwSjM2SzFNSzYz9pJITs0rSSwtKi1WKMrMV0hJVchKzEvNLMoHADxXFxQ&oq=+Centaurus%2C+rio&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6Ig8gQ2VudGF1cnVzLCByaW8qAggBMgUQABiABDILEC4YrwEYxwEYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIIEAAYFhgeGAoyBhAAGBYYHkira1AAWL9EcAB4AJABAJgBPqABzgKqAQE2uAEByAEA-AEC-AEBmAIGoAKXA8ICDhAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGPAGwgILEAAY_AYY8gYYjwfCAgsQABiABBixAxiDAcICCBAuGIAEGOUEwgIREC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYxwEYrwHCAhEQLhiABBixAxiDARjHARjRA5gDAJIHATagB-9EsgcBNrgHlwPCBwMzLTbIBzmACAE&sclient=gws-wiz&sei=FVJtasmrO9PT5NoPsfOR-Aw]Termas Centaurus[/url]
R. Canning, 44 - Ipanema, Rio de Janeiro - RJ, 22081-040, Brazil

[QUOTE=TheCritic;3077655]Try with correct spelling; Google is your friend and gemini Ai.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;3077417]Looks like Fouche mistyped Centaurus as Casanarus.[/QUOTE]Got it, thanks for chiming in.

Here are some of Sperto's classic maps.

For those of us with boots on the ground we know which ones are still in operation.

[URL]https://prismaterapias.com/[/URL]

Went here with a new ISG wingman, good dude, 1st time in Rio.

Several here I have fucked (and Tribute15), for 400 r, some BBFS.

Usual negotiation, very nice facilities, very good location, less than 4000 steps from barra p3/ K08 beach club, and from Metro Jardim Oceanico. Have several regulars boning them bare, after showing tests from SUS, including one cuban, who speaks spanish, though no porto, which is interesting. PM me for deets on where to stay. Extra credit for thos who train boxing in the gym here, vagabundo wil bring the 2 oz gloves and pads, and hydrate for 60 minutes, hydrate with water with creatine at least, or better, coco, cannibus (not), caffeine.

Barra Shopping exit see for cash at bradesco (200 r notes), decathlon for clothing (do this at home), and then prisma at: av das Americas 500, bloco 8, sala 232. Bring your local tests, from SUS. Repeat until those pink lips open up sans rubber, quite saving your kosher hotdog from herpes, everyone in porn has it, and everyone in Brazil is in in porn, haha!

Go in and make market according to my updated bubbaboy guide, ie, Vagabubba guide, vagabundo rewrite, which is kind of like the book of mormon compared to the talmud, if you will, for you scholars of sex.

PM me to be added to the zap distro, and to come to the best location in Rio / the world, barra, metro jardim oceanico.

Selah.

I used Ann amari's cpf for.

Ifood.

Guannabarra (supermarket, most economic in barra, on av das Americas), saves me 30 r on a 800 r bill (frozen salmon kosher by the pound, air fried up and stored like my viking ancestors in digestible pots in the fridge, etc. I prefer the unsweetened acia berry which pairs with boiled eggs for the healthy breakfast, etc.).

Yeah, I guess I could use her cpf for purchases of bus tickets.

Decathlon, also gives me cash back as I am a regular purchaser there. Now, doing the weave, decathlon barra is 1000 m from apple store barra, and as a rule:

The best place for property in any city, globally, is near the apple store.

That is what is known as a thesis.

Where is the Apple store in Porto Allegre? For example.

Because, stereotypes aside, Vagabundo loves Gauchas (Germanic Italian blondes).

[QUOTE=Tochka;3075546]My experience as a US Passport holder in Brazil (no CPF).

Buying bus tickets without a CPF.

The easiest option if you don't have a CPF is to buy your ticket in person.

So Paulo: Go to Terminal Rodovirio Tiet with your US Passport. The ticket office will issue your ticket without a CPF. I paid with a credit card.

Rio de Janeiro: Same deal at Terminal Rodovirio Novo Rio (Novo Rio). Just walk up to the ticket counter with your passport and pay by credit card.

Ordering stuff online without a CPF..[/QUOTE]

What is the bus from Mabs to VM?

JimmyBOy, Sperto?

Real Cariocas ride the bus with a vasco shirt, don't talk, point to your ear as a deaf mute.

As I prep for my next trip at the end of the month. Does anybody know:

1) Is 'X Forum' permanently down? If so this is a significant loss for local intel. Shoot, I've been mourning the loss of 'Forum Quente' for yrs!

2) I saw a recent report that Delirio Oriental may be permanently closed. Can anyone who's been in Copa recently or is there now confirm? TBH, that place's been on life support for a few yrs now.

3) I saw a report about Caribbean Sul in Botafogo not too far back. I'm curious about what the entrance fee is now.

Any intel would be much appreciated.

RK6.

Vm: juice not worth the squeeze.

If you go don't drink. Get your high from exercise.

Deets to follow.

[QUOTE=ReyKong6;3079128]As I prep for my next trip at the end of the month.

2) I saw a recent report that Delirio Oriental may be permanently closed. Can anyone who's been in Copa recently or is there now confirm? TBH, that place's been on life support for a few yrs now.

RK6.[/QUOTE]They barely had any girls working there in March when I visited. Eden Spa was superior in quantity and quality.

This will be my 1st ever report or posting here.

I visited Rio in July and although I have sparingly participated in these activities before, it was my 1st proper / planned mongering trip.

I picked Rio for various reasons, but I went there equipped with the information found here.

Rio as a city did not disappoint. It still has some of that charm and it has excellent cycling and public transit options. I stayed in Copacabana, near the prives / termas but also near metro station for field trips to downtown. I stayed in 5 star hotels for most days (did not attempt to bring guests). I then rented an Airbnb in Copa (guests were allowed no problem).

I had some massive letdowns and then I had some really good days and sessions. Overall, not too bad for my 1st trip. A mixed bag of experiences.

Day 1: I wanted to start slow, so went to RJ Massagem in Copa and asked for Cleo. I only wanted Tantra + HJ. She looked as stunning as in the photos but as soon as she came in, her attitude was very bad. Very cold and distant. Nevertheless, her massage was really good teasing and ending was very creative.

Day 2: Primas Terapias with Angel. I read good reviews about her here. She was not my 1st choice but it was a Sunday and that's all they had. She quoted me crazy prices for FS, 1000 Real. I then asked for massage and BJ only and she quoted me 700 real. Still too much considering it ended up being CBJ. She would also not even undress (just top was off). But I went ahead and it was a rookie mistake. I had no intention going back there.

Day 3: Eden Spa. Finally something good. After my two poor experiences, I was very happy there. I sat down and the selection was impressive (around 11 am on Monday) There were about 2-3 girls that I would consider an 8 or 9. Pretty for sure. One of them was Naty who really caught my eye. We had a great session and I could tell she was very sweet and great attitude. No problems switching positions and no problem with anything. She agreed to BBJ for 100 extra tip. It was not the best BBJ, but that fine. I repeated her that very evening. I would repeat her many times on this trip. She is highly recommended. Price was also incredible at 240 real for 1 hour. And she made sure I got the full 2 pops even when I didn't feel like it.

Day 4: Eden Spa. I had to have Naty again. So went back in morning and evening for her. Same excellence attitude and the place was very decent too. I did try the Sala on the 3rd floor but the selection there was not good and the big guy at the door was scary. So I just left. On the other hand, receptionist at Sala 401 was very professional, like going to dentist office.

Day 5: Time to visit Centro. I took the metro from Copa (about 20 minutes) to Rio Branco avenue. 1st stop was Belprazer. Easy to get up via elevator. Once inside the reception was very professional. I sat for the presentation but it was disappointing. Only one girl was a 6 or 7 but lots of tattoos. I decide to pass and walked out. I then tried Dudas Massagem nearby. However, I could not go up do to registration need. I knew about this issue but still wanted to try. In the end, I backed out because I really did not want my picture taken in a crowded lobby. I then walked about 25 minutes to my 1st ever Terma. Quatro for Quatro. I was pretty nervous as I had never been in this type of place before. However, the staff and venue was pretty welcoming. I got into that darker room and sat on a chair. It was around 4 pm but already about 6-7 girls and maybe 2-3 guys (me included). Some of the girls were about 6 to 8 in my opinion. They were not too aggressive but did come over one by one and tried to talk offer company. But not overly pushy (just as I read here). Place was chill. I sat there for about 2 hours (drinks, lunch) until I saw a stunner from Belo Horizonte. I keep smiling at her and eventually she came over. We talked (translator) for about 30 minutes to 1 hour. She was not aggressive and not trashy at all. Elegant about 21-23 with a pretty face. She agreed to BBJ and kissing right away. I took her for 1 hour upstairs. She started with a passionate GFE experience. Lots of kissing and lots of touching and a bit too much moaning for my comfort. We had intercourse briefly but I could not keep it up. Too many drinks and the freezing aircon. She then lay me down and proceeded to give me a passionate BBJ and I ended up finishing in her mouth. She swallowed and smiled. She wanted more fun but I was done. Total damage was about 650 real for 1 hour fun + lunch + drinks.

Day 6: Eden Spa: I asked for my girl Naty and she was available. Great session again. Lots of different positions without her complaining one bit. She was treating me like a regular and would give me amazing massage with lots of buildup. Then I would return the favour and massage her with oil. She would let me massage and finger her see. T and I think she liked it. No excessive moaning just as natural as it got.

Day 7: Back to Centro and straight to Quatro por Quatro again. I was looking for my Belo Horizonte girl but she was not to be found. All other girls were sitting around and looking to make eye contact with me. They were about 6 to 7 in quality. I wanted something more. I waited for a 9 or 10 but when she finally came in, she was with a grandpa. At this point it was getting dark outside but I was sitting there with a bonner for 2 hours now. Knowing that I could choose any girl. Crazy feeling and something that I never experienced. However, I was super picky that day. And I got burned. I decided to ignore all the sweeter girls that were smiling at me and approached a very young girl (18 years old) because she was the closest to a 9 or 10. We chatted for only 3 minutes. I confirmed BBJ is available. We went upstairs. I showered and sat on bed. And the restrictions start. No to touching on see. Nt. No to kissing during missionary. No to eye contact during missionary. LOL. That was rough. I flipped her over and just wanted to get it over with. She did had a nice young looking ass so I put her on the stomach and banger her hard. She was quiet but right during my orgasm she pulled away in pain or discomfort. I finished, dressed and left. Good young body but terrible / imature attitude. I should have picked a different one.

Day 8: Escort from Barra VIP. I finally had my Airbnb so wanted to invite someone over. Her name was Clara and her face was covered on the website. However, I decided to take a chance as I was thinking she could be a hidden gem. Her body was petite yet tall. Hard to describe. I insisted on a face photo. She send me one and I would say in the photo she was a 7 or 8. I accepted her. We agreed on 700 real for 1 hour and she would do BBJ, although she was asking about my STD history. She told me she was 21 and law student. She arrived and I went downstairs to greet her. She was incredible. She was much better than the photos. She was the first 10. The hottest girl I ever experienced. She was funny, elegant dressed although a bit nervous. So was I, since this was my first ever experience inviting an escort. But I wanted to feel more confident at my own place. She got changed and she pushed me down on the bed. She forced me to kiss her nipples and then proceeded with a BBJ (so, so). I am not the submissive type, so I stood up and pinned her against the wall (and large mirror). We did it standing up and watching her body, pretty face in the mirror was so hot. I could barely last so I stopped. I did not want it to end. I asked her to lie down and I did her missionary. Full GF kissing from her. I lasted a few minutes but as she showed me her smile. It was too much. I finished and we talked. 2nd round was still good although not as hot. After 1 hour I walked her down and I knew we will repeat.

Day 9: Escort from Barra VIP. I wanted Clara again, but I was thinking it's too early. Wanted to save her for another day. I picked a different one. This time with a face photo. She looked a bit Asian. Or just different. I was in the mood for different. Although, I should have known it was just photoshopped. We agreed on 700 real plus Uber. She was late over 40 minutes. I should have canceled but it was late in evening. She kept giving me some excuses about traffic. She finally came over. I went down to get her and I can see she is nowhere as hot as in photos. Maybe a 6 or 7 and trashy looking. Part of me wanted to run but I went along. Right away, I could tell she has bad attitude and demanded payment upfront. I did not find her face attractive. I was not happy she scammed me with the photos. I decided I am going to do lots of BBJ in all positions. Experiment a little. However, her BBJ lasted 2 minutes then it was so shallow. I continued but she was clearly pushing it out and gagging like crazy if I tried to push it myself. I realized it was not going to work. I took her on a sofa and turned off the lights. Her legs over my shoulders and deep penetration. She was pushing herself away. I asked if she is okay. She nodded the head but her body language was bad and she was still trying to check her phone. I finished quickly to end the misery for both of us. She went on her phone and seemed like she wanted to hang around since we had like 40 minutes left. I politely asked her to leave.

Day 10: Escort from Barra VIP. Clara again. The session was as hot as the 1st one (almost). She was into deep kissing. She smelled nice and had expensive lingerie, which I cared little about. We did the same positions and I enjoyed it. She did ask me before the session if we could do CBJ as she was just not feeling too comfortable with BBJ. She told me she will bring an ultra thin condom specifically for this. I agree as her BBJ was nothing crazy and I really liked her. Now that we had a condom for CBJ, I proceeded to try some positions with her where I would go deep. It actually felt pretty good with her on her stomach and me standing up near bed. I almost cumed on her CBJ but restrained myself and finished in missionary (my favourite with a pretty face girl). She asked me to do her 2nd time. But I had no energy. Was hiking all day.

Day 11: Escort from Barra VIP. Clara for the 3rd and last time (since this was my last Airbnb day). We pretty much repeated everything from the previous day. It was a good session but getting slightly repetitive now. I still could not believe how stunning she was. We texted many times during the week later but this was the last session with her. She was knowledgeable about law studies so I think she was telling the truth.

Day 12: Monte Carlo in Copa. I was staying steps from it and finally had to try it. Place looked so much dodgier than expected. Maybe because it was full lights and not dimmed like Quatro por Quatro. Anyway, I went and payed the entry fee and was warned that I will be the only one. I said fine, since I read about this here. I went upstairs and nothing prepared me for this. LOL. About 15 girls stood up and made a near circle around me. As I sat all by myself. This was crazy intense and yes intimidating. After 2 minutes, I gave them a sign to sit down. Thankfully they listened. I sat there for 2 hours and maybe 2 more guys came (thankfully). I did not like most of the girls. Maybe it was the full lights or the vibe of the place. They were much more pushy than Quatro por Quatro. And looks were about 6 to 7. I waited long time and was about to leave but I picked a girl that had that something (in her smile). She was probably a 7 or 8. We talked briefly and she actually spoke English. I told her I just want to go upstairs. Did not even bargain for BBJ. The deed was very mechanical and she was moaning very unnaturally. Calling me baby. I don't like that. One position and that was all. As I walked out, I got the most dirty looks from all the other girls which I did not pick. But which invested time in looking and sending kisses to me. I did not like this place or it's vibe.

Day 13: Prisma Terapias Copa. I decided to give this a second chance after a bad experience with Angel. This time, I got Marina. I slim, cute looking girl. She took me to the room (after I payed for massage and HJ). I told her I want to upgrade to FS. She quoted me 1200 real. I laughed. She said 1000 real the most. This is a crazy price again. For this, I can have like 7 sessions at Eden Spa. It's even more than a VIP escort. And Marina was just not worth it. I said, okay, no FS but what about massage + BBJ. She said, 800 real. But she said we can talk later about BBJ or CBJ. I said, no we decide this now. She agreed to BBJ. I was already not in the mood and unhappy with the scamming. But I agreed. She did the massage and this time I was allowed to play with her see. Nt and small breast. It was okay. However, I could not relax. I was thinking, I can have many sessions at Eden Spa for this crap. Finally, I got up. I told sorry, I don't like this. I am leaving and not paying for the BBJ which she has yet not done. She was upset and probably realized being greedy sucks. I was ready to pay her properly for FS before. Now she is getting nothing. I walked down the street straight to Eden Spa. I asked for my girl Natty. She was available and gave me the longest and sweetest hug in Rio. She told me she was sure I had left the city. We had a great session where she did BBJ for small tip and many positions without any attitude. Damage was 240 real plus the small tip for BBJ. Amazing experience and so glad I walked out on Marina. I told Naty, I am leaving tomorrow for good but will visit her again just before the airport.

Day 14: Eden Spa: My flight home was around 5 pm. I got to the spa at 11 am and Naty was already waiting (I told her I would come at that time). I only wanted that last session with her. It was really good. About 30 minutes of erotic massage with lots of teasing. Then I got her to sit in front of me and I played her see. Nt like a violin with my hands. It was amazing. She then gave me a very passionate BBJ. But I know she is not a fan of BBJ (keeps cleaning my penis constantly) so I stopped and I asked her to ride. I think that was the best position for her. She is a 9 in my books but attitude is like 15. Great experience with her again.

[QUOTE=ReyKong6;3079128]As I prep for my next trip at the end of the month. Does anybody know:

1) Is 'X Forum' permanently down? If so this is a significant loss for local intel. Shoot, I've been mourning the loss of 'Forum Quente' for yrs!

2) I saw a recent report that Delirio Oriental may be permanently closed. Can anyone who's been in Copa recently or is there now confirm? TBH, that place's been on life support for a few yrs now.

3) I saw a report about Caribbean Sul in Botafogo not too far back. I'm curious about what the entrance fee is now.

Any intel would be much appreciated.

RK6.[/QUOTE]I was just in Caribbean Sul. First they told me 130, as I turned and started walking away, they changed their happy minds to 60. They have two separate pricing, one for credit and another for cash. When I first got there there were 4 putas, and 10 when I left.

Anton. First of all super excellent report. And fab job for ur first report! I am glad you had a good trip and on balance enjoyed yourself. But once you are more experienced at this you will look back at that Rio and say damn that was so bad compared to now. CBJs and bait snd switch (not as pretty on arrival) can all be avoided. If 4 x4 and Eden were your top experiences you can def do better.

Next time go to So Paulo and see what a truly great girls experience is like. If you are staying 5 star you have coin and should spend it well on girls. No use trolling Rio when you can shoot fish in a barrel in SP.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3079822]Next time go to So Paulo and see what a truly great girls experience is like. If you are staying 5 star you have coin and should spend it well on girls. No use trolling Rio when you can shoot fish in a barrel in SP.[/QUOTE]I think you're right. For the way I like to monger, Rio has really atrophied from where it was when I started going. I'm talking hot, blonde brancas delivering up three-hole, PSE sessions in the termas for unbelievable pricing. My last time in Rio, things had really fallen from where they were. I will be returning this year late fall. I never thought I would say this, but if it's pretty much the same, I will be taking Rio out of the rotation. At least for awhile. The hotness at scale is in Sampa. Glad I discovered that for myself!

[QUOTE=ReyKong6;3079128]As I prep for my next trip at the end of the month. Does anybody know:

1) Is 'X Forum' permanently down? If so this is a significant loss for local intel. Shoot, I've been mourning the loss of 'Forum Quente' for yrs!

2) I saw a recent report that Delirio Oriental may be permanently closed. Can anyone who's been in Copa recently or is there now confirm? TBH, that place's been on life support for a few yrs now.

3) I saw a report about Caribbean Sul in Botafogo not too far back. I'm curious about what the entrance fee is now.

Any intel would be much appreciated.

RK6.[/QUOTE]I just posted a long 14 report from Rio but I forgot to mention my experience with Delirio. I rented an Airbnb in the same building it was locked. I went a few times and knocked but no answer. Place looks closed. This was last month.

Does it rain a lot in Besemnro in this area?

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3079832]I just posted a long 14 report from Rio but I forgot to mention my experience with Delirio. I rented an Airbnb in the same building it was locked. I went a few times and knocked but no answer. Place looks closed. This was last month.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Steve9696;3079822]Anton. First of all super excellent report. And fab job for ur first report! I am glad you had a good trip and on balance enjoyed yourself. But once you are more experienced at this you will look back at that Rio and say damn that was so bad compared to now. CBJs and bait snd switch (not as pretty on arrival) can all be avoided. If 4 x4 and Eden were your top experiences you can def do better.

Next time go to So Paulo and see what a truly great girls experience is like. If you are staying 5 star you have coin and should spend it well on girls. No use trolling Rio when you can shoot fish in a barrel in SP.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. I heard about SP girls being superior in looks prior to picking Rio. It's possible, I might try to combine the 2 cities next time. For me, Rio had those other things I care about. Cycling, hiking, beach. But I could probably last in SP for a few days. I probably need some non drinking / non mongering activities. Also, from my 1st mongering trip what I learned was that I was trying too hard to find the perfect 10. Cared too much about finding the best looks. In the end my best experience was not at Eden or Quatro for Quatro but with an Escort for 3 days. I found a girl I clicked with and enjoyed it. The same with my regular at Eden spa. I clicked with her and I guess it's what I needed. I had much harder time with girls that seemed stunning but had bad attitudes. I was also a bit too anxious in my first few days. Had a fear of missing out. LOL. There were just so many prives and termas to try. I didn't even get to try some like Solarium. I was thinking, I can do like 3 sessions per day. LOL. Within a few day, I toned it down. I was okay with 1 or 2 (maximum) sessions per day and my best experience was with regular girls. So that's my lesson probably. Regulars with good attitude over stunners with risk.

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3079910]Makes sense. I heard about SP girls being superior in looks prior to picking Rio. It's possible, I might try to combine the 2 cities next time. For me, I was okay with 1 or 2 (maximum) sessions per day and my best experience was with regular girls. So that's my lesson probably. Regulars with good attitude over stunners with risk.[/QUOTE]Yep. You got it. A 7 with a great attitude and skills beats an entitled or starfish 9 any day! I think 99% of guys would agree with that but for some reason we all learn it the hard way! 🙈.

Based on your experience where you vibe hard with one or two girls I recommend Meu Patricinio. It's like Seeking Arrangement for Brazil. Me and all my friends found multi-day repeat gems in there. True GF stuff. The clubs are great but mix in MP.

Also it's great to mix Rio and SP. Only an hour flight. Just make sure to book a couple weeks in advance because flights go from $100 to $1000 the last few days before the flight.

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3079910]Makes sense. I heard about SP girls being superior in looks prior to picking Rio. It's possible, I might try to combine the 2 cities next time. For me, Rio had those other things I care about. Cycling, hiking, beach. But I could probably last in SP for a few days. I probably need some non drinking / non mongering activities.[/QUOTE]Precisely! Sampa just doesn't feel like a vacation. It feels like flying 10 hours from NYC to NYC where people speak Portuguese. The funny thing, I don't hate Sampa. It has its moments, but aside from mongering and great food and a few sights you can see in 2 days, what else is there?

Of course, if you come from a small town or countryside, you might quite enjoy Sampa. If you have enough time for Sampa and Rio, you might enjoy Sampa. But Sampa as a vacation base is sad, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3079822]Anton. First of all super excellent report. And fab job for ur first report! I am glad you had a good trip and on balance enjoyed yourself. But once you are more experienced at this you will look back at that Rio and say damn that was so bad compared to now. CBJs and bait snd switch (not as pretty on arrival) can all be avoided. If 4 x4 and Eden were your top experiences you can def do better.

Next time go to So Paulo and see what a truly great girls experience is like. If you are staying 5 star you have coin and should spend it well on girls. No use trolling Rio when you can shoot fish in a barrel in SP.[/QUOTE]The top girls in Rio are not so different from those in SP, except that they have lower rates. So for a short trip I put Rio over SP.

It might also be a bit of luck since there are so many more working girls in SP than Rio.

I guess the exception would be for those who prefer brancas, since SP wins hands down in that aspect.

One thing I really liked about Rio was that they had more local Carioca working girls while almost everyone I spoke to in SP was from somewhere else and seemed a bit more business minded.

I wouldn't have too high expectations when going to SP unless you like the Brancas.

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3079803]This will be my 1st ever report or posting here.[/QUOTE]Great first report! Thank you for writing it up with all the details.

About Prisma Terapias. Those are some crazy quotes. Not sure what's up with that. The good review you read may have been mine. I went last year and was just expecting a low mileage massage session with a hot chick. In the room I was quoted 300 BJ and negotiated that to 200 BBBJ. It was a bonus I wasn't expecting and I had a good time. Your report has reinforced to me that the way to approach Prisma is to just go in with no expectation beyond the standard nuru mutua offering. At 395 it's a bit of a premium but the facilities and selection of girls are among the best in town. If there is no expectation beyond the standard, you can be indifferent when discussing extra services and just say what you're willing to pay. If it doesn't work out, no sweat, you're just right back at what you came in for in the first place. Obviously only a good plan if you enjoy this type of session and don't need more.

Hello members,

I will be in Rio in few days. I am staying at Fairmont Copa.

Does anyone know if this hotel allows girls?

Also I have got quotes from 700 to 1100 for one hour without any add ONS. Is that a fair price? I don't want to overpay and raise the prices like people have done in Medellin.

English is not my first language so I have not been confident to contribute much but I will post my 7 days of experience in RIO and SP.

Please let me know if I should visit any popular spots.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3079910]I heard about SP girls being superior in looks prior to picking Rio.

For me, Rio had those other things I care about. Cycling, hiking, beach. But I could probably last in SP for a few days. I probably need some non drinking / non mongering activities.[/QUOTE]As a SP regular, I'd say you would be bored on day 2 because the city is a concrete jungle. It is almost depressing at some point. Rio is unbeatable its scenery and culture. Its pace is slower and you can feel it in the air.

If you are into lighter skinned women, SP is the place. Rio has wayy more genetic diversity. My fav Rio partner calls herself a 5th generation crossbreed. I always try to squeeze in a few days in Rio if I can. Thanks for the report. Let me know if you have questions about SP. I know it too well.

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3079832]I just posted a long 14 report from Rio but I forgot to mention my experience with Delirio. I rented an Airbnb in the same building it was locked. I went a few times and knocked but no answer. Place looks closed. This was last month.[/QUOTE]Could you share a bit about your airbnb? Cost, guest friendly, security guard?

Hey, getting ready for my return to Rio next month and wanted to ask about Dolce Vita. I'll mostly be with regulars from my last trip, a few from Fatalmodels and going to Monte Carlo. But wanted to know if Dolce Vita is worth a visit currently. Is it something to try out or just completely avoid?

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;3080151]Could you share a bit about your airbnb? Cost, guest friendly, security guard?[/QUOTE]It was about 65 USD per night. Same building as Delirio Oriental. It was decent, clean, good views. Security guard was always there but he couldn't care less who I brought in. I would just always go down to get the girl. I checked with host before and he didn't care either.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080106]Hello members,

I will be in Rio in few days. I am staying at Fairmont Copa.

Does anyone know if this hotel allows girls?

Also I have got quotes from 700 to 1100 for one hour without any add ONS. Is that a fair price? I don't want to overpay and raise the prices like people have done in Medellin.

English is not my first language so I have not been confident to contribute much but I will post my 7 days of experience in RIO and SP.

Please let me know if I should visit any popular spots.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Fairmont Copa last month for a few nights. I didn't bring in girls but it seems it would be fairly easy probably (judging by the lobby and amount of traffic). When, I rented an Airbnb the girl I had over was disappointed I had not invited her to Fairmont. She said, that she gets into there no problem. The price I payed on Barra VIP was 700 real and it included BBJ. Plus Uber fees. I chatted with a few and they all quoted that. I think one quoted 800 real (the most). You should probably not be paying more for 1 hour. If I can recommend a girl from there it would be Clara. Young and very pretty law student. Her face is covered on website but she is very attractive and dependable.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080106]Hello members,

I will be in Rio in few days. I am staying at Fairmont Copa.

Does anyone know if this hotel allows girls?

Also I have got quotes from 700 to 1100 for one hour without any add ONS. Is that a fair price? I don't want to overpay and raise the prices like people have done in Medellin.

English is not my first language so I have not been confident to contribute much but I will post my 7 days of experience in RIO and SP..[/QUOTE]Correction to my previous reply to you. Clara is on Rioladies website.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080106]Hello members, I will be in Rio in few days. I am staying at Fairmont Copa.
Does anyone know if this hotel allows girls? [/QUOTE]Girls are allowed to visit hotel guests in their rooms with no joiner fee, so officially the Fairmont is guest friendly except that girls must present their ID's at the front desk.

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3080224]I stayed in Fairmont Copa last month for a few nights. I didn't bring in girls but it seems it would be fairly easy probably (judging by the lobby and amount of traffic). [/QUOTE]Don't kid yourself. Security keeps a tight grip on who comes and goes in this hotel. I tried bypassing the lobby by taking my girls from up the ground level elevator to a higher floor than the lobby, but I always received the call from security to register my guest. In fact, one night security even sent an embarrassed hotel employee up to my room to collect the required information. I had my shirt off and the girl was in a state of undress when he knocked on the door.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080246]Girls are allowed to visit hotel guests in their rooms with no joiner fee, so officially the Fairmont is guest friendly except that girls must present their ID's at the front desk.

Don't kid yourself. Security keeps a tight grip on who comes and goes in this hotel. I tried bypassing the lobby by taking my girls from up the ground level elevator to a higher floor than the lobby, but I always received the call from security to register my guest. In fact, one night security even sent an embarrassed hotel employee up to my room to collect the required information. I had my shirt off and the girl was in a state of undress when he knocked on the door.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. Then, I am glad I didn't try. It's just the Fairmont lobby looks so tempting to smuggle a girl in compared to other 5 star hotels in that area which have a small and impossible to by pass lobby.

[QUOTE=Zeyto;3080221]Hey, getting ready for my return to Rio next month and wanted to ask about Dolce Vita. I'll mostly be with regulars from my last trip, a few from Fatalmodels and going to Monte Carlo. But wanted to know if Dolce Vita is worth a visit currently. Is it something to try out or just completely avoid?[/QUOTE]My apartment was close to the place, so I stopped in there a few nights for a nightcap and to check-out the putas. There were some stunners in the place, but at a price.

There is no cover, so it would not hurt to check the place out. The place is rather small. Go after midnight. No sex on site, everything is available for take-out.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080106]Also I have got quotes from 700 to 1100 for one hour without any add ONS.[/QUOTE]What is an add on?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3080246]Girls are allowed to visit hotel guests in their rooms with no joiner fee, so officially the Fairmont is guest friendly except that girls must present their ID's at the front desk.

Don't kid yourself. Security keeps a tight grip on who comes and goes in this hotel. I tried bypassing the lobby by taking my girls from up the ground level elevator to a higher floor than the lobby, but I always received the call from security to register my guest. In fact, one night security even sent an embarrassed hotel employee up to my room to collect the required information. I had my shirt off and the girl was in a state of undress when he knocked on the door.[/QUOTE]I've traveled to more than 12 countries and I've never had control over who I bring to my room, it's never happened to me, never ever.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3080288]My apartment was close to the place, so I stopped in there a few nights for a nightcap and to check-out the putas. There were some stunners in the place, but at a price.

There is no cover, so it would not hurt to check the place out. The place is rather small. Go after midnight. No sex on site, everything is available for take-out.[/QUOTE]I concur. And def don't go before midnight it will be a ghost town. One surprising thing I wanted to add is U can also BRING a girl and treat it like a dance club. I guess that's unusual but I brought a Casablanca girl (warning high takeout fee!) and we danced for a few hours. It was great fun and no special charges.

[QUOTE=Zeyto;3080221]going to Monte Carlo. [/QUOTE]BTW, I was in Monte Carlo Saturday night and the place had a great line-up of chicas!

The only problem I had was wearing those unstable-as-fuck flip-flops!

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3080288]My apartment was close to the place, so I stopped in there a few nights for a nightcap and to check-out the putas. There were some stunners in the place, but at a price.

There is no cover, so it would not hurt to check the place out. The place is rather small. Go after midnight. No sex on site, everything is available for take-out.[/QUOTE]At what point (time) did Dolce Vita stop requiring a cover charge to enter?

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3080423]BTW, I was in Monte Carlo Saturday night and the place had a great line-up of chicas!

The only problem I had was wearing those unstable-as-fuck flip-flops![/QUOTE]Your stairwell photo made me think they should have a sign "Fuck Like a Champion Today". IYKYK.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;3080448]At what point (time) did Dolce Vita stop requiring a cover charge to enter?[/QUOTE]You are correct.

After checking my three receipts, on a Saturday night, I was charged 80 r for the entrance fee.

I did not see an entrance fee when I went on Thursday or Wednesday night; does not mean there wasn't one.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3080423]BTW, I was in Monte Carlo Saturday night and the place had a great line-up of chicas!

The only problem I had was wearing those unstable-as-fuck flip-flops![/QUOTE]Thanks for the help Tom. I'll be heading to SP Saturday afternoon so I'll be checking out Scan and Casarao that evening. But for Monte I'll be there on Tuesday to Friday nights, would you say the quality is still good those 3 nights? I ask because it's basically a 5 min walk from my hotel and I'm being lazy, as much as I want to head up to 4 x4.

The week in baseball: No country for Old Men.

Last Saturday, Vagabundo went to VM. The girls were asking 130 half hour. Use a condom, or you will end up in health services getting shots and pills, and using a condom with your regulars. Don't drink, if you do you put yourself and your wingmen at risk, and train to fight and be able to fight off 3 hookers in a street fight on the stroll from VM to metro sao conrado. Wear a vasco shirt, don't talk, cand carry a speaker playing felipe ret, and put your wad of cash in a money belt. This is no country for old men, and Vagabundo will be the first to admit, now, since I am an old man, I don't plan to go to VM anymore, the juice is not worth the squeeze, however, strolling to massagemtijuca from metro sao cristavao is a good plan.

So, had a prive girl over for 3 hours for 300 r, then took her to sushi, and ubered her home. She forgot to get the cash which means we were having a good time, 100 m of actual fucking, and no swarming sw and bikers which go from 3 to 30 in about a minute.

Then saw her again in the prive for another 45 minutes of actual fucking in the 60 minutes. Good prive girls ask 600 r for overnight /12 hours. So, adjust your sights, young rabbi jedi haim sabatos here in the safest country on earth, safer than Israel from Iranian missiles, safer than the USA from pussy prison deaths of despair.

Saw Anne amari for a actual good time wherein she finally did as told and came to capoeira practice and a cheap but healthy cafeteria (bandejao) meal, after which we did pernoite at my place. She is not a hoar as she works, though she still smokes weed, which I mitigate with a mask, since she is making progress, and clearly I am the prize, she doesn't want to have kids with a poor guy, which is to say all brazilian men, almost. I paid her 500 r for overnight, but she also did my laundry and cleaned including the fridge. So there is that.

Perola negra I went to Monday with a ISG wingman, and it is the best night in terms of quality of girls, though only 10, but the best girl was there, a girl I fucked in a swinger night at Paris two years ago with a great wingman now wifed up in the rich world, you know who you are, as my girl, Nina deponca sucked wingman off while I fucked the girl he hired at the hot tub on the roof of Paris cafe, which is a good time, bring your own girl for the night. Nina deponca, also got boned by me, vagabundo, later that night. But anyway, now that top talent morena is back, no longer wifed up to some bozo in Chile, and selling her pussy for 650 r for the hour, which is annoying as you talk to her about pernoite and she takes out a calculator and is like, 650 x. , and I am like, uh, nao.

Thursday, 01 h30 at perola negra is the tequila pole dance show with lis lopes who is a sort of friend now, lis pours tequila into the mouths of all the men and women, including the gaucha (blond german from rio grande do sul) bar girls, and me, while I grab lis lopes ass, which is nice, especially for a 40 year old hard body gymrat professional dancer. All the girls are there -- except for the best one.

OK.

Now that I have created some mystery around who could be that actual top tier 1, seal team 6, delta force hoar, now YOU, gentle reader, YOU go out and find her and give me an us some further intel. That is how it works in the Swiss Navy cyber hoar company as we continually rewrite the TITTY bar survey for Rio de Janeiro.

Vagabundo sends.

Message all of them and offer 500.

There is AI for that, surely.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080106]Hello members,

I will be in Rio in few days. I am staying at Fairmont Copa.

Does anyone know if this hotel allows girls?

Also I have got quotes from 700 to 1100 for one hour without any add ONS. Is that a fair price? I don't want to overpay and raise the prices like people have done in Medellin.

English is not my first language so I have not been confident to contribute much but I will post my 7 days of experience in RIO and SP..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeyto;3080713]But for Monte I'll be there on Tuesday to Friday nights, would you say the quality is still good those 3 nights? I ask because it's basically a 5 min walk from my hotel and I'm being lazy, as much as I want to head up to 4 x4.[/QUOTE]I was at Monte Carlo on a Saturday night and I was at 4 x4 on a Wednesday night.

Monte Carlo only had 2 other customers; however, 4 x4 was packed.

I can't tell you the quality of the chicas on other nights.

Here is the price list for 4 x4:

[QUOTE=Anton1971;3080261]Fair enough. Then, I am glad I didn't try. It's just the Fairmont lobby looks so tempting to smuggle a girl in compared to other 5 star hotels in that area which have a small and impossible to by pass lobby.[/QUOTE]TBH, I don't understand why a monger wouldn't want their guest to be registered. It's for your protection as well as the hotel's. When I book an apartment, I do sometimes ask doormen to record the girl's ID even if they don't give a fuck. Why would that be a problem?

1. Eden Spa. Camila - 2.40 for hour.

Thick, tall and curly hair. Very pleasing attitude. All standard service. Paid extras 30 US to rim and anal.

She licked everything good. Very happy with service.

2. Eden Spa. Mel - 190 for 0. 5 hour. I just wanted another quickly. She is nice but seemed to be high.

3. 4 X 4 - 8 PM. There were 10 girls. All average nothing stood out. Still took Bella for 30 minutes. Total with one beer like 475 Reals. Service was we standard. Skills was lacking but I think because she is young and will need more experience.

Overall good day. So far not as impressed compared to Medellin as I did not see a single girl above 6 yet.

Enjoy the trip and keep posted.

Thanks for the contribution to the group 🙏.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080872]1. Eden Spa. Camila - 2.40 for hour.

Thick, tall and curly hair. Very pleasing attitude. All standard service. Paid extras 30 US to rim and anal.

She licked everything good. Very happy with service.

2. Eden Spa. Mel - 190 for 0. 5 hour. I just wanted another quickly. She is nice but seemed to be high.

3. 4 X 4 - 8 PM. There were 10 girls. All average nothing stood out. Still took Bella for 30 minutes. Total with one beer like 475 Reals. Service was we standard. Skills was lacking but I think because she is young and will need more experience.

Overall good day. So far not as impressed compared to Medellin as I did not see a single girl above 6 yet.[/QUOTE]

Readers should keep in mind that Termas and prives are generally not as good on Saturdays as they are Monday through Thursday.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3080795]TBH, I don't understand why a monger wouldn't want their guest to be registered. It's for your protection as well as the hotel's. When I book an apartment, I do sometimes ask doormen to record the girl's ID even if they don't give a fuck. Why would that be a problem?[/QUOTE]The problem would be that as a registered guest they can go get a key to the room same as you can. So it may be wise to unregister them when they leave. But remember most mongers are sneakily mongering and do not want to leave a trail.

Mixed feelings.

Highlights of the day were lunch at Sugar Mountain and Christ the Redeemer. It was too cloudy so the view from.

Christ the Redeemer was not that good.

Update on Chicas:

Almost every thing was closed. Girls from BarraVip were responding very slow. But finally setup a meeting with Maya:

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-maya-lira[/URL]

She was staying at Wyndham. After making me wait for 15 minutes on lobby, she came to receive me. She is was prettier in person. She looks like one of the top models. She is young and her body is very nice. I would say she is 8.5.

We started making out and then I got too excited and put protection on and started doing in missionary. I asked her if she would do anal. She agreed but said it will cost extra. I said OK and proceeded with anal. I came in few minutes.

She asked for 400 extra for anal on top of 1000 that I already paid her. She charged me tax also but it was my fault as I did not negotiate in advance. I paid almost 1500 at this point. I was thinking that I am having fun with a hot girl so it is OK.

But as soon as I paid, she started asking we can conclude the session. I still had 25 minutes left. As she was not willing so I just decided to leave without having a second round.

I had fun but I did not get to see her BJ skills or try many positions. So I feel that 1500 was not worth it. Again comparing to Medellin, I have have 3 hour sessions with very high end girls for $150 USD. Medellin girls are more polite and accommodating.

Today is Monday so let's see what it brings. Can anyone recommend a legit massage parlor. I just want massage no sex.

[QUOTE=Combo;3080968]Readers should keep in mind that Termas and prives are generally not as good on Saturdays as they are Monday through Thursday.[/QUOTE]Monte Carlo and Centaurus are somewhat of an exception. They are right in the middle of the beach tourist scene.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3081020]Mixed feelings.

Highlights of the day were lunch at Sugar Mountain and Christ the Redeemer. It was too cloudy so the view from.

Christ the Redeemer was not that good.

Update on Chicas:

Almost every thing was closed. Girls from BarraVip were responding very slow. But finally setup a meeting with Maya:

[URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-maya-lira[/URL]

She was staying at Wyndham. After making me wait for 15 minutes on lobby, she came to receive me. She is was prettier in person. She looks like one of the top models. She is young and her body is very nice. I would say she is 8.5..[/QUOTE]You are overpaying like crazy. 300 USD for Barra VIP escort? You should be able to find them for about half of that 700-800 Real. And max 1000 Real with extras. Last month, I had sex for 3 days with the hottest escort I ever saw for 700 Real per session plus Uber.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3081020]Mixed feelings.

So I feel that 1500 was not worth it.

[/QUOTE]You don't say!

Not to be an ass, but when you overpaid her to start out with, she likely saw that as an opportunity to take you for even more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3081018]The problem would be that as a registered guest they can go get a key to the room same as you can. So it may be wise to unregister them when they leave. But remember most mongers are sneakily mongering and do not want to leave a trail.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean register as a second guest. Hilton would have a long sheet they would fill out every time I'd brought someone in.

Welcome to Rio de Janeiro, the land of Caipirinhas, great beaches, and passionate chicas! Because this trip report is quite long, I will split the TR in two parts; one for logistics and the other for venues.

History:

I traveled to Rio in 2004 and 2006 for Carnival. Yes, those were the years of Help disco and other venues, but like in most other countries, things change. I returned in 2017 and had a great time; not sure why I waited so long to return.

Logistics & other stuff:

Tourist Visa:

I applied for the tourist Visa through eVisa, VFS. GLOBEL. The cost was $80.90. After I applied, I received the Visa within two days via e-mail. It is valid for 10 years.

Flight:

I flew United Airlines round trip. From San Diego to Houston to Rio (GIG). The total flying time was around 13 hours.

Money:

The currency in Brazil is real. When I left, the rate was 1 US dollar to 5. 10 reals. Thus, I basically just divided by five. 100 reals: 20 bucks. I exchanged some money at the airport and the shitty exchange rate 4. 61 to 1 US.

After I arrived in Copacabana, there were several exchange places and the rate was 4. 90 to 1 US. No ID required. Also, I used my Charles Schwab Visa debit card all over Rio; no issues whatsoever.

References:

I used two references: ISG members and Google search. Thank you ISG members!

Travel Insurance:

The SquareMouth web-site gave me over 50 quotes from over 50 different companies. I chose Seven Corners. It was for 11-days and cost $352.35.

Communication:

I have the T-Mobile Go5 GPlus55 plan. I had a few glitches with service providers. Sometimes the service was provided by Claro and other times by Vivo. When they switch services, at times I lost both providers.

Transportation:

My plan was to take an Uber from the airport to my apartment; that went to shit quickly! According to the airport guide, "Uber pickups are located on the departures floor for Terminals 1 and 2 (following designated signs or color-coded sections outside the terminal). ".

After flying all night, I was very tired. After immigration, I walked out in the pick-up area. I could not find those damn designated signs or color-coded sections outside the terminal. So, I had my first, 'Fuck it!" moment and took a taxi to Copacabana. The cost was 120 reals. I returned using Uber and I paid $18.

I used Uber all over the city. If I was in a hurry, I just jumped in a metered cab. Taxis were cheap, Ubers were cheaper.

I went to a very good restaurant called Gino Pizza. This was one of the times I did not have a signal on my phone, so I was using the restaurant's Wi-Fi. I looked over and saw a minivan taxi. I made a deal with the driver and off we went to Perola Negra.

The dude was kind of retarded. On the way he was very excited because he had a small flyer for Perola Negra and he was proud of that. He started kissing and licking the flyer! Lucky for me, I made it to the club without being kissed or licked!

Logging:

I rented a 2-bedroom apartment in a great location, in Copacabana, from Vrbo, less than a block from the beach. It was quite pricy, but I enjoyed the place.

Before I left, I contacted many hotels, checked many properties from Airbnd and Vrbo, and all of them replied; no unregistered guests allowed.

But, I always had a strategy when it comes to doormen and security guards; I butter them up. I always buy them a soda and a bag of chips for the day and night personal. There drink of choice was Gaurana Antarctica and they loved Doritos. I brought in three different chicas in my apartment; no issues.

Voltage: 220.

Food:

For the most part, the food was pretty damn good! I ate and drank at a butt-load of restaurants:

Academia de Cachaca very good.

Cervantes (2) - excellent.

Parada de Copa. Excellent.

Caleto's Sats (2) - excellent.

Maria Eobio. Outstanding.

Aconchego Carioca. Very good.

Gino Pizza very good.

Bar do Minerio. Excellent.

Bar do Zeca Pagodinho Flamengo very good.

Terra Brasilis. Excellent.

English:

I heard very little to none English during my romp. That included stores, restaurants, and clubs. I used Google translate when I had a signal, otherwise I was fucked.

Brazilian Portuguese:

I feel comfortable speaking Spanish. But, I had a new challenge, Brazilian Portuguese! There was a language barrier and I never really overcame that fact. Three months before I left, I took several online classes on the site iTalki. I told my teacher I was interested in learning the difference between Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese, as well as learning many useful phrases.

I really put in a lot of effort, but I still felt I came up extremely short. I forgot almost every phrase I learned. Google translate helped when I was lost for words. I thought I would remember what we talked about. I tried, but failed miserably. Even if the word was spelled the same way in Spanish, the pronunciation sounded different. At one point, I had a, "Fuck that" moment and I just gave up!

Next: Part 2 - The Venues.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3080872]1. Eden Spa. Camila - 2.40 for hour.

Thick, tall and curly hair. Very pleasing attitude. All standard service. Paid extras 30 US to rim and anal.

She licked everything good. Very happy with service.

2. Eden Spa. Mel - 190 for 0. 5 hour. I just wanted another quickly. She is nice but seemed to be high.

3. 4 X 4 - 8 PM. There were 10 girls. All average nothing stood out. Still took Bella for 30 minutes. Total with one beer like 475 Reals. Service was we standard. Skills was lacking but I think because she is young and will need more experience.

Overall good day. So far not as impressed compared to Medellin as I did not see a single girl above 6 yet.[/QUOTE]4 x 4 sucks on a Saturday, none of the best girls work there on Saturday and most of the time its a ghost town. You should have gone to Solarium on Saturday. The best day for 4 x 4 is always Thursday, followed by Wednesday.

Mostly rainy.

Reached out to a girl from BarraVip again.

She quoted 1000 for one hour but 1100 if I paid by credit card.

Location was in Ipanema.

Face: 9 (red head!

Body:6 (No tits, big but too soft ass. I like firm ass).

Service: very good. Good kiss and oral. Energetic and pleasing.

Overall OK day.

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3081249]Mostly rainy.

Reached out to a girl from BarraVip again.

She quoted 1000 for one hour but 1100 if I paid by credit card.

Location was in Ipanema.

Face: 9 (red head!

Body:6 (No tits, big but too soft ass. I like firm ass).

Service: very good. Good kiss and oral. Energetic and pleasing.

Overall OK day.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-luna-kim[/URL]

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3081249]Mostly rainy.

Reached out to a girl from BarraVip again.

She quoted 1000 for one hour but 1100 if I paid by credit card.

Location was in Ipanema.

Face: 9 (red head!

Body:6 (No tits, big but too soft ass. I like firm ass).

Service: very good. Good kiss and oral. Energetic and pleasing.

Overall OK day.[/QUOTE]Must be Luna Kim, she's been on the site on and off for years, I always wanted to try her but never did, thanks for the post. Most of these girls want you to go to them now and charge more to come to you, the whole escort system got screwed up for some reason and I don't like it LOL.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3081238]
I rented a 2-bedroom apartment in a great location, in Copacabana, from Vrbo, less than a block from the beach. It was quite pricy, but I enjoyed the place.

Before I left, I contacted many hotels, checked many properties from Airbnd and Vrbo, and all of them replied; no unregistered guests allowed.

But, I always had a strategy when it comes to doormen and security guards; I butter them up. I always buy them a soda and a bag of chips for the day and night personal..[/QUOTE]Airbnb apartments are getting bad these days many don't want visitors anymore, I may go back to hotels soon.

I know this apartment you just stayed in, French guy, on my first night I brought a girl in at 3 am, next day he sends me her ID sent to him from the doorman because the doorman sends him documents of every guest entering the apartment. The owner asked me if I could not bring girls in so late because recently there was a big fight in the middle of the night and disturbed the whole building plus the cops came. I told him you must be kidding that's what I came here for plus I've been doing this for many years and I guarantee something like that won't happen to me, he said ok and offered me a free cleaning. Before the cleaning lady came the cup on the nespresso machine shook and fell on the floor, I cleaned it up but the cleaning lady told him I broke the coffee cup, he was furious LOL things were not going well. Did you notice in the closet 4 cups and saucers one cup was different, he made me go out and replace it and it was expensive. Plus towels and sheets got soiled, the guy was a real pain in the arse. Unfortunately I can't stay there again as it was a nice apartment but overpriced. Nice balcony too, every girl gave me a BBBJ there. He also told me if there is one more problem with the girls the building management will not allow girls in anymore. This is becoming common now.

Aconchega Carioca is a top place!

[URL]https://vejario.abril.com.br/estabelecimento/aconchego-carioca-2/[/URL]

Well played sir.

On language, bookmark these two channels, play with legendas / subtites in English, and repeat, rehearse, especially with brazilian chicks getting them laughing, as they do like these channels.

[URL]https://youtu.be/JQOWU1snUlM?si=rnQfBbwynzgExyBZ[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&t=969s[/URL]

Be well, fair winds and following seas, Sir.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;3081238]Welcome to Rio de Janeiro, the land of Caipirinhas, great beaches, and passionate chicas! Because this trip report is quite long, I will split the TR in two parts; one for logistics and the other for venues.

History:

I traveled to Rio in 2004 and 2006 for Carnival. Yes, those were the years of Help disco and other venues, but like in most other countries, things change. I returned in 2017 and had a great time; not sure why I waited so long to return.

Logistics & other stuff:

Tourist Visa:

I applied for the tourist Visa through eVisa, VFS. GLOBEL. The cost was $80.90. After I applied, I received the Visa within two days via e-mail. It is valid for 10 years.

Flight:

I flew United Airlines round trip. From San Diego to Houston to Rio (GIG). The total flying time was around 13 hours...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;3081254]Must be Luna Kim, she's been on the site on and off for years, I always wanted to try her but never did.[/QUOTE]She went by "Sophie" when I fucked her way back when in 2019. I wonder how old she's claiming to be these days (I recall her saying she was in her 20's when I met her)? Also looked to have gained some weight in some of her more recent pics. The attached is when she was young and trim. I have her face rated at a 7 (shows how optics standards vary). I remember her as a kind, considerate, and intelligent girl who was a good and energetic performer with a great attitude. And she was willing to take in all three holes too, but I couldn't get into her ass. Butt hole was too tight! Oh, and that's her butt in a bow too! One of my favorite pics of all time LOL!

Hello.

I am checking in Agoda hotel price in Copagabana, and it result less expensive (with rewiew not bad) is at least 70 euro. I check booking an it is worster.

I checked Airbndb and there are some apartment at 40 euro, but they look really not nice.

In Rio are there cheaper place (but good too) than Copagabana?

Are in all Brasil hotel with similar price, or just in Copagabana?

I were in a lot of country in Soudh Asia and I used to pay 3-4 star very good hotel around 25 euro for night. In Brasil wath is normal price?

I would plan a 6 weeks trip, so hotel price matter (41 nights.).

[QUOTE=JaySingh1010;3081020]Mixed feelings.

She asked for 400 extra for anal on top of 1000 that I already paid her. She charged me tax also but it was my fault as I did not negotiate in advance. I paid almost 1500 at this point. I was thinking that I am having fun with a hot girl so it is OK.
.[/QUOTE]This caught my attention, she charged you tax? I guess you used a credit card and has to claim this on her business. I've always paid cash.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;3080448]At what point (time) did Dolce Vita stop requiring a cover charge to enter?[/QUOTE]I don't think they ever charged a cover charge to get in but they do charge an exit fee for the girl you leave with. I don't know the last time you were there but they may have charged an entrance fee before and gave you 2 drinks but I haven't seen that in years unless the doorman is pulling a scam which I know he does. I frequent the place but don't trust them.

Hello, my third time in Rio coming in a month.

I read about 100 pages, and spent a lot of time here.

Is it true that the only day time place with a presentation is Eden in the Copa / Leblon / Ipanema areas?

I prefer day time (safer) and I prefer to see a presentation so I can choose who I like. Also prefer those 3 neighborhoods as that's where I live, and its closer.

Eden is where I spent most of my visits.

I see a few centro places, any in particular that have a wide selection? Any other places in Copa / leb / IPA?

Perola Negra is in time out.

Perola negra is enforcing a ban on outside beverages while their girls ask 700 r for an hour so avoid, IMHO. Real mongers know a full hour of fucking requires hydration with like 1 liter of more of coconut water.

Get numbers, grab asses.

Security came up and hassled vagabundo, so vagabundo put his hands on the security dude's shoulder in a forceful way that said, sure pal, let's go a few rounds at muay thai. Let's see. Yeah thou I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil for I am the baddest motherfucker in the valley.

- The talmud, and deuteronomy.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3081258]I know this apartment you just stayed in, French guy.Plus towels and sheets got soiled, the guy was a real pain in the arse. Unfortunately I can't stay there again as it was a nice apartment but overpriced. Nice balcony too, every girl gave me a BBBJ there. He also told me if there is one more problem with the girls the building management will not allow girls in anymore. This is becoming common now.[/QUOTE]Before I left, he sent me a full list on what I could NOT do. When I went to the apartment, there were some notebooks that had even more pinche rules!

BTW, presently he is in France and going through cancer treatments. As much as I didn't like him, I wish he fully recovers.

For all the newbies who have a million questions about going to Rio de Janiero, I have one important piece of advice. Please stop fucking tipping these girls for things they should be doing as part of your session! There is no reason to tip these girls to do their job. If they ask for a tip, tell them "Thank you but no thank you" then take another female. Don't tip for a BBJ, don't tip for pictures, don't tip for anal, etc. Trust me, they are not demanding tips from the Brasilian men, only dumb gringos who don't know any better.

There is a festival called "Rock in Rio" coming up during the first week of September and its driven prices out of the roof. Been checking [URL]Booking.com[/URL] and [URL]Airbnb.com[/URL] and getting prices from $200 a night for apartments that were $80 before, same for Hotels too. I had 2 different apartment rental companies sending messages about the increase in prices and asking me too book early. I didn't and now it's more than double.

Guys please read the fucking forum. People are distorting the market and spoiling things for others. $30 is 150 reals, that's the price of a session in some places. It looks like small change, but it fucks up everything for others. I noticed on my last trip to Eden Spa that most girls don't want to do BBBJ or anal and I knew something was wrong. They had this take it or leave it attitude which was a turn off. I didn't even bother to session there at all.

All over Copacabana there is a change in attitude and pricing. RTFF is always priceless.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3081299]For all the newbies who have a million questions about going to Rio de Janiero, I have one important piece of advice. Please stop fucking tipping these girls for things they should be doing as part of your session! There is no reason to tip these girls to do their job. If they ask for a tip, tell them "Thank you but no thank you" then take another female. Don't tip for a BBJ, don't tip for pictures, don't tip for anal, etc. Trust me, they are not demanding tips from the Brasilian men, only dumb gringos who don't know any better.[/QUOTE]That's up to each person and their satisfaction in whether or not to tip. Don't treat girls like mere merchandise.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3081262]She went by "Sophie" when I fucked her way back when in 2019.![/QUOTE]I remember your post at the time and I was aware of her, she's now 7 years older and her arse got saggy, not sure if that old saggy arse is worth 1,000 reais plus the pictures are probably over 7 years old. There's another girl on the site now Alana Davis, those must be old photos also because in 2025 she came over and looked older than her photos.

[QUOTE=Pascoal2000;3081320]That's up to each person and their satisfaction in whether or not to tip. Don't treat girls like mere merchandise.[/QUOTE]Do what you are like, I know you will, but all the OP is saying is "don't spoil the market. Behave like the local customers, some of whom have more money than you. This has nothing to do with treating the girls like "merchandise".

Maybe you can remember the "Prime Directive ("Starfleet General Order 1") ie the "non-interference directive" in Star Trek that prohibited its members from interfering with the natural development of alien civilizations. Applying this idea to traveling among different cultures means respecting these cultures and in the current context it means, don't be an ugly tourist when you travel. Leave no wake.

You may think my this is just foolishness or some form of cheap charlie-ism, but it is not. RJ and SP are still mostly unspoiled. I have seen too many once great destinations ruined by over touristration and by foreigner travelers violating the "non-interference rule". AC and Sabang in the PI are the most glaring examples, but there a plenty of others as well including Pattaya, Phuket, and even BKK. So don't do it. The girls still do not expect tips from their clients. But if horny tourists violate local customs en masse, it won't be long before the girls start saying "tip sir, tip sir for" for nothing like they do in the places I just mentioned above.

Rant over.

Other than Eden, is there a place in bara / Copa / leb / IPA with day time presentations?

I will be there for a month and will write a full report after.

Afternoon. Went to one of the Nuru Massage places:

Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, 500.

Copacabana.

Rio de Janeiro. RJ.

22020-001.

Brazil.

Looks: 4.

Massage: 5.

Handjob: 9.

Cost: 500.

————————— Best evening in Rio————-.

Centaurus- Went around 8 PM. There were 15 girls. A lot of young and attractive 7's. Took two girls one at a time.

Olivia was amazing. Good kisses, BBJ and energetic fuck.

Looks: 7.5.

Skill: 9.

Cost: 650 ish. I forgot actual number.

Room: 407.

Melina.

Looks: 6.

Skill:5.

Cost: 650 ish.

Room: 304.

My experience is limited but I prefer clean facility of Centaurus better than 4 X 4.

Off to São Paulo.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;3081334]The girls still do not expect tips from their clients. But if horny tourists violate local customs en masse, it won't be long before the girls start saying "tip sir, tip sir for" for nothing like they do in the places I just mentioned above.

Rant over.[/QUOTE]No matter how much information you give these guys, they will insist on their right to overspend!! Look at any of the local sex forums and you won't see a single brasilian leaving a tip, no matter how good the session was! (This is why every damn employee at 4 X4, from the Girls, Security, Waiters, Towel and Room Key girl, the Room Cleaners, the staff behind the desk, the doorman, they all ask for tips). It's because the stupid ass gringos hand out 50-100 reais like its candy. Meanwhile, the brasilians are laughing at us while paying their bill.

[QUOTE=Bravo;3081381]No matter how much information you give these guys, they will insist on their right to overspend!! Look at any of the local sex forums and you won't see a single brasilian leaving a tip, no matter how good the session was! (This is why every damn employee at 4 X4, from the Girls, Security, Waiters, Towel and Room Key girl, the Room Cleaners, the staff behind the desk, the doorman, they all ask for tips). It's because the stupid ass gringos hand out 50-100 reais like its candy. Meanwhile, the brasilians are laughing at us while paying their bill.[/QUOTE]I couldn't believe when I was leaving Monte Carlo the last time I was in Rio, and the damn security guard holds up a phone with a message on it in English asking for a tip! I expressed my annoyance and kept it moving. No tip forthcoming!

[QUOTE=Bravo;3081381]No matter how much information you give these guys, they will insist on their right to overspend!! Look at any of the local sex forums and you won't see a single brasilian leaving a tip, no matter how good the session was! (This is why every damn employee at 4 X4, from the Girls, Security, Waiters, Towel and Room Key girl, the Room Cleaners, the staff behind the desk, the doorman, they all ask for tips). It's because the stupid ass gringos hand out 50-100 reais like its candy. Meanwhile, the brasilians are laughing at us while paying their bill.[/QUOTE]Facts. I know many guys that will tip for no reason or give little gifts to these girls which is very odd because they are hookers not your wife LOL. Hong Kong in Tijuana is so bad about tips. You basically have to tip a dollar for anyone you talk to it is outrageous.

[QUOTE=RioBob;3081271]I don't think they ever charged a cover charge to get in but they do charge an exit fee for the girl you leave with. I don't know the last time you were there but they may have charged an entrance fee before and gave you 2 drinks but I haven't seen that in years unless the doorman is pulling a scam which I know he does. I frequent the place but don't trust them.[/QUOTE]On a Friday night, I got charged.

Everyone's points about tipping the girls in Brazil and elsewhere are dead-on.

Unfortunately, whenever I spend money abroad I am being hustled for tips. This even when the service provided is negligible. They hear my accent and the figure why not ask for money.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;3081389]Everyone's points about tipping the girls in Brazil and elsewhere are dead-on.

Unfortunately, whenever I spend money abroad I am being hustled for tips. This even when the service provided is negligible. They hear my accent and the figure why not ask for money.[/QUOTE]I've practically only traveled around Europe, I'll only be going to Brazil soon, and I'm really not used to tipping; I usually go out with almost the exact amount of money I'm going to spend.