Santo Domingo

Anyone have any experience with Plaza Colonial Aparta Hotel in Gazcue?

It is on the NE side of Parque de Independencia (El Conde). For 4 days, here are the following prices: standard $188 (full bed or twins beds), Studio $228 (full bed or twins beds, kitchenette, living room), Superior $376 (one bedroom apartment, one bath) and Suite $440 (Two bedroom apartment, two bath). It has 86 apartments, for a total of 160 rooms, organized in a complex of seven independent buildings with swimming pool. This sounds like a winner, I'll email the staff and ask the "required" questions.

[QUOTE=Jimbo 69]Does anyone know any drivers that can be trusted? Someone that will take me to and from the airport at a reasonable price, and I can call when I want to go mongering?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I had lot of experiences with taxis in Santo Domingo. I made some short travels from colonial zone to hotel Jaragua area and they always asked 200 to 300 pesos. I always paid 150 except one time I paid 200 but it was 3 am. One day I met a girl at a disco and next day I went to her house in the Oriental zone. She lives in a mansion 5 minutes after Autopista San Isidro motels. 15 minutes or more ride. I called the taxi by phone (Apollo taxi) and price was requested by phone, it was 240 one way. We made a round trip tour back to my hotel and I was ready to pay 500 pesos. Taxi driver said " it is 750 pesos". I opened my wallet, took a 500 peso bill and said to the driver "I am a tourist but I am not a stupid" and left. One guy serviced me well from-to airport-hotel, he is Jeremias Polanco, he has a website that was posted here by somebody, taxidominicano.com He is also available for "nightlife tours" for a price per hour.

Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.







[QUOTE=George90]Can you expand on this? Frankly, I am flabbergasted. I am Black and I have mongered in SD with EASE! I have heard that Casa Modelos is not a good place for chicas. Did you try other places? Tabu? Lapsus? Spa Michelle?[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, what is the general going rate from airport to hotel? For example, the Jaragua or Napolitano Hotel. Thank you.

Thanks for information. Because these guys was asking for 300 -800 pesos. I understood when they shown me around and waited in houses until I finish the two hours. But to go down the street it was crazy to charge 250 to 300 pesos. Again in Brazil and Costa Rica the taxis do the samething even in USA with tourist but their intial request is not this crazy. Also how much should you pay the guy waits for you while you are at the houses or should you tell them to leave and try to get a other taxi.

Also all the taxis where not clearly mark. I did not feel comfrontable hopping into cars which pickup 4 to 5 people. No telling what can happen.

[QUOTE=Marzo]A simple rule is that the ultimate ceiling for a cab ride in SD is 200 pesos, anywhere in the city. That is about 6 bucks. So EVEN if you get ripped off, and he charges you 200 pesos for a short ride, we are still only talking about 6 bucks.

Most drivers should be really happy to get 150.

As for negotiating, you dont need perfect spanish, etc. Before you sit in the cab, tell the guy your destination and tell him your fare. He will argue a little bit, but be firm. Maybe go up 50 pesos, or meet him halfway, but never go above 200.

Feel free to wave him off. It happens. Some guys would rather bluff themselves out of the fare. There are LOTS of cabs in the city! Tell him so. Point to the street and say "hay otra taxi".

Unless youre ill or really overweight, you can walk a couple of blocks at the most and find 3 more.

The only time youre at their mercy is if it really late at night. Even then, 200 is plenty.[/QUOTE]

I was told 21-25 US. But if you get a tourist taxi it is 35 US. That is big difference.

[QUOTE=Mangera]Gentlemen, what is the general going rate from airport to hotel? For example, the Jaragua or Napolitano Hotel. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mangera]Gentlemen, what is the general going rate from airport to hotel? For example, the Jaragua or Napolitano Hotel. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
$30US, no more.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Usboys]Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.[/QUOTE]


As an additional suggestion on problems with girls and black mongers...
I am only repeating what I have been told, not my opinion.

I have been with some girls that were morena (black, chocolate brown, whatever you want to call it) and they themselves told me that they preferred to avoid black guys because they often don't want to pay afterwards.

This is a generality, of course, but I have been told first hand stories from girls of black guys that will have a girl, ST or TLN, and then make up excuses not to pay her. "It wasn't that good", "I didn't invite her to spend the night",
blah, blah, blah."

A good (girl)friend of mine in Puerto Plata recently had this happen to her.
I suppose after a girl has been stung this way a few times, she may be reluctant to risk it again, -even if it doesn't apply to all.

This is a generality, but it seems some guys get off on abusing women like "bitches" and "hoes" out of some hip-hop video fantasy they have.

Just an example of how bad behavior on the part of some has consequences for all. I would encourage any responsible mongers out there to educate these types.

Take care,
yanqui69

Hi Guys,

I generally travel to SDQ sveral times a year and work my way around the town.....hitting the usual hot spots.

Usboys - I don't know what to make of your remarks about Casa Modelos. Its pretty sad if what you say is true. It may well have something to do with the level of education/sophistication that CrazySunny mentions.

I have never seen anything like this at Casa Modelos myself, first hand but I'm not saying it couldn't happen. I can best describe myself as a "silk shirt, gold chain wearing white guy" (lol) which the girls tend to be immediately intersted in....but once they realize I speak Spanish and that I absolutely refuse to overpay or waste my money....they seem to lose interest in me just as fast. :D

I usually use Casa Modelos as one of my steady places - I've met and enjoyed evenings with several "regulars" there and have posted some photos of them on this board in the past.

As for your other comment "how do you guys negotiate, since the house prices are already set". Don't believe that. EVERYTHING is negotiable in the DR.

I've been given a so-called "firm" house price at 9pm that drops 1500RDP by the time that I return at 11pm. I've been given a "firm" house price on a Friday night when the place is packed that shrinks by 2000RDP on a Tuesday night when its slow.

My favorite negotiating ploy is that I tell the Casa manager "O.K. I'll pay you full price tonight because I'm really "juiced" for this girl here but if I pay full tonight...... how much am I going to have to pay tomorrow night when I return?"

He says "Señor the price never changes"
"No, no, no.... for me it does....now seriously if I pay full price tonight, how much tomorrow night?"

He usually will scratch off about 1000RDp or so. ($34)

If you want ground zero and your sick of Casas try the casino at the Jaragua.
You said that guys on your plane home said that "you have to play games for about 30-60 minutes" before women will approach you?

Tell those guys that Ford is available for monger tours anywhere in latin america......for help to the inexperineced. ;)

That hasn't been my experience there.

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cheers.............

I am black and would never do such a thing. If anything, I slip them an extra 500 pesos for a "Good Morning Bryan" :-)

[QUOTE=Usboys]Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.[/QUOTE]
Sorry you had a bad experience in the Capital, don't let it deter you because its not like that with most of the Dominicans. I am a Black american and I personally never had a problem at any of the casas in Santiago, I get admitted to the best clubs and lounges Santiago has to offer, eat in the best restaurants and have the best time with the girls in Santiago. I can go to Ahibar on any day, shake the managers hand, kiss the waitresses and by the end of the night I'll be at a table with cute santiagueras, taking pictures and exchanging phone numbers. It's generally the way you carry yourself in the DR and be forewarned, they are conservative and don't like or tolerate "tigueres", who are guys who dress up in hip-hop gear, i.e. big baggy pants, sneakers, & chain & earings. They don't socialize with them period, they're considered thugs and an embarrassment to decent dominicans. One of the main reasons young NYers get stared at. If you notice, dominicans won't even wear shorts, and they will wear a long button down shirts to the discos, even though its like 95 degrees. Hopefully, you'll have a better time, next time.

[QUOTE=Usboys]Well I really did not want to get into the details because I did not take poll of girls in Casa Modelos. But I notice the girls really did not pay me much attention. I sat there for over 45 minutes one time drinking. I saw when white guys came they hurry around them. I only got a girl when I had to call her over or tell the barman who could tell the difference. When I took one back to room she told me without me asking she normally would not go with Black guys. I was going to ask why but knew it would be stupid any way choose to have my performance in bed speak for me.

As for the other spots. Girl House was good no problems. Sky the girls where very pretty but only 5 there. With Girl House two houses down and cheaper you have to go with Girl House. The Casinos did fully understand the game. In other countries all you have to do is be in area. I walked around the Casinos sat down maybe for ten to 15 mins. But did get any dimples with the girls. I am not into Casinos games so I left. I was later told by some guys on plane who have to play games for about 30- 60 mins then they will come to you. Lapus, It was very dark, but the girls was not cute at all at least the ones I saw. Not sure if I when to Tabu or Spa Michelle (Please provide more information). Taxi driver took me to five different places I was trying to remember all names.

Second issue. How do you guys negotiate. The house price is set. So I am assuming guys are talking about the piano bars and Casinos where I see who can negotiate. Maybe in March this where I will focus. Also is there a true ground zero in Santo Domingo? In Costa Rica who it is Del Ray in Brazil it Meia Patea or Help.

I must say though I had a great success with non-pros or semi-pros and at the university and one of ladies at my hotel. If guys have an insight pleases let me know. Non-pros are great but again sometimes you want that PSE.[/QUOTE]I normally have that discrimination problem, when I go into MP's in the tourist areas. I think because of my color many of the women think that I am latino and would prefer not to deal with me, because they tell me that many times dominican men just pay the salida and pay the girl zero after having her all night lol

One time I was with a white friend and they asked me if I wanted a propina for bringing the tourist..I laughed and told her that we are both americans lol

Now I go for the clubs that the Dominicans go to and pay about 1500TLN and thats with my dominican friend getting his cut.

Then you can always befriend a dominican and get him to show you his area, and they will pretty much provide you access with all sisters, neices, cousins for gifts like a yankees hat, sneakers, etc.

Actually, I am dating a Dominican probably be going down often. I have been mongering in different countries for over 15 years. But was a little shock at the women in Casa Models which had the most girls, beside Girl House. I will however go back, because it is stupid where they must think all black guys will not pay the price. But this does not make much sense because you have to pay the house first. Thanks Ford I see you are truly the grandfather in room. Your story in Casinos is a classic. My girlfirend told me how to dress and I do not wear the hip - hop wear so this was not issue.

The best girl I was with was from Santiago. I believe one of guys mention her "Kathy" from the Girl House. I had no problems there and Black guy at the door showed me a great time. He said he was from New Jersey. She told I should go to Santiago next and gave me here # to call if I wanted to go. Again, I did not have bad time. But it was just a little different then Brazil and Costa Rica Mongering. Dominicans are definitely conservative people.

[QUOTE=Terry U]Sorry you had a bad experience in the Capital, don't let it deter you because its not like that with most of the Dominicans. I am a Black american and I personally never had a problem at any of the casas in Santiago, I get admitted to the best clubs and lounges Santiago has to offer, eat in the best restaurants and have the best time with the girls in Santiago. I can go to Ahibar on any day, shake the managers hand, kiss the waitresses and by the end of the night I'll be at a table with cute santiagueras, taking pictures and exchanging phone numbers. It's generally the way you carry yourself in the DR and be forewarned, they are conservative and don't like or tolerate "tigueres", who are guys who dress up in hip-hop gear, i.e. big baggy pants, sneakers, & chain & earings. They don't socialize with them period, they're considered thugs and an embarrassment to decent dominicans. One of the main reasons young NYers get stared at. If you notice, dominicans won't even wear shorts, and they will wear a long button down shirts to the discos, even though its like 95 degrees. Hopefully, you'll have a better time, next time.[/QUOTE]

USboys did not have a bad experience. He simply went into a casa and did not get any attention. It happens. When I go to Cristals in POP alone few of the girls will approach me. When I'm with a white friend they're all over him. There it has nothing to do with them not liking black guys. They simply think the white guy will pay more. I once strolled into Franks alone. The woman who runs the place went upstairs to alert the girls that a gringo was in the house. They all came running down the stairs, saw me, and almost in unison said, "where is the gringo". I found this funny. Truth is that 90% of casa girls will consider leaving with you if you are willing to meet their price. There will be always be some chick that doesn't want to go with you for what ever reason.

Contrary to popular belief not all casa girls like white guys. If you're a good looking gent like Ford you can have your pick, but if youre the average american counch potato you're going have some tough sledding. I'm an average looking black guy who happens to speak a little spanish and knows his way around a casa. I usually get what I want at the price I want it with out too much of a problem Not all girls will go with me, but the way I see they are missing out I'm not. As CrazySunny said, domincanas are some of the most approachable and agreeable women in the world. Just go have a good time, conduct yourself in gentlemenly fashion and ignore the ones so ignorant that they'll pass up on a good thing simply because of some prejudicial belief. Take my word for it you will be having some much fun you will not have time to contemplate what you may have missed out on.