Davao

Gangles,

Thankyou for posting your experiences in my Forum. I hope you had a good time. I need to read your Posts again as with so much work this time of year, I go through the Posts on the boards here quickly.

Guys,

Last July while alone in Davao with no women to meet I had no choice but to hit the nightlife on my own (NO! GoodEnough does NOT ever set me up. Says I have too many already or some bullshit). I wrote a dozen posts then on my experiences just meeting women on the streets of Davao, Rizal Promenade, Bar 183, the Chikkachat net cafe ( I called it pussynet cafe), Ground Zero, etc. Remember, I had no women to meet and none lined up from the internet, dating sites or anywhere. And yes GE knew this and "kindly" said, "well Slayer I guess you are going to be busy finding women this Trip".

How did I do? Read the reports. I did FUCKING FANTASTIC!. I met seven women, fucked five and got a great handjob in a booth at O'Flanagan's one evening from the sixth. One of the ladies was my Cherryl whom I have had a relationship I thought would last but I got dumped for a filipino guy she has been doing here in Davao. Still she fucked me continuously on a daily basis over three separate Trips.

I met Jobeth,19, then who arrived at my Hotel. While telling me she had a 21 y/o filipino she was "very much in love with", she undressed and fucked me within fifteen minutes after meeting me. The crazy part of all this is that of the seven women, she is the only one whom I am still seeing now. Just got a text from her on my Int'l phone. She stops by to fuck me on her way to work or on her lunch hour. Occasionally she sneaks out at night to fuck me but this interferes with my "night action" so I discourage this. Getting it daily from her for an hour or so is just fine.

I arrived on a Friday night and started out at Chico's on Rizal Street, moved over to Hot Legs 3 and then to Rizal Promenade where I met May at Bar 183 at 03:00AM. I posted her nude photos here in November. The following night I again het Chico's and then on to Rizal Promenade. I met Jenny, had lunch iwht her tow days later but got a referral from her girlfriend that night. No, she did not give me a phone number. SHe gave my number to beautiful Leonie, 23. She was to meet me at my Marco Polo hotel room the following morning but had a job interview. So she awoke her cousin Cherryl and she met me.

I ended up fucking Cherryl, 21, twice that morning and taking her to lunch with GE and his wife. It was not until two weeks later that Cherryl told me she was not the Leonie I was to actually meet that day. I had Cherryl with me daily on that trip. I also met three women at the internet cafe (pussynet) and one walking down the street to Ground Zero for a drink. I left each time with one of the girsl from the net cafe and fucked her shnortly afterwards in my Marco Polo hotel room.

I honestly thought about going by the steps on J Camus and fucking one of the girls who hangout there nightly looking for men to fuck for about P500. I also considered the Clubs as I went to Hot Legs 3 twice and Hot Legs 2 once. I just did not have the need with all the gorgeous, lovely, young "poontang" I was getting.

I do recommend going by the steps or across to the new park directly across from J Camus St early in the evening, the day you arrive in Davao. Pick up a girl, and fuck her good. This will take the "edge" off your hunt for a lovely, young regular girl. You will not need to be "led by your dick" then. I never did try the Mall but while shopping for a cellphone on one Trip I had two young nursing students stop and talk to me. Yes, they were interested. But also 17 so I passed.

Since that Trip I have been meeting ladies on the internet as it is just plain easy to do. I will post on my experiences meeting and fucking these ladies here in Davao later. One of these is my beautiful Rose with the 36c Rack.

Dragon Slayer

Guys,

Valentine's Day came and went as I worked here in the US. To quote a good Clint Eastwood movie, "Valentine's Day, some guys get flowers, some get candy", Dragon Slayer gets nude women on cam. Here are photos of two beautiful ladies. The first, Lany, is 24 and lives just outside Davao City. Dessa is a few hours away with her 35C rack.

Gangles mentioned Venue Plaza. This gets going after 10:00PM for the young single crowd in Davao. Before this it is mainly people dining. Similar to Crossroads in Cebu except that the Restaurants and Clubs are not nearly as nice. This place is quiet on Sunday and Monday nights and improves as the week goes by. Has live music playing out in the courtyard on Saturday night which brings women. Halos was good late at night with a very young crowd. This was a hagnout for GE and myself a few years ago before we grew tired of it. Ralphs wine bar here is also the place where I was drugged back in August '04. I wrote several posts on this in the old Davao Board back then.

The best place to go and eat, meet women and hangout is Rizal Street at the Restaurant plaza where De Bonte Koe, El Toro, Claude's, Chico's and Someplace Else are located. It is a minute taxi ride or ten minute walk from here to Rizal Promenade and the KTV Restaurant across from it where things get going after 10:00PM Wednesday through Saturday nights.

Recently there has been a move to open more restaurants and bars out on Lanang Road where the Swiss Deli is located. These places are new but look promising. Red Knights Garden is a few minutes taxi ride from here. When with GE and my Rose I did see two new apartment style hotels here. You could walk from them to the Restaurants in the area. Taxis are readily available.

It is just my "style" but I avoid having the ladies bring friends or relatives along. This has often been uncomfortable in the past and sometimes expensive. So I just tell the girl to come alone. I do not meet them at malls as I see no point in sitting in a big, noisy area trying to get to know a girl. Plus the food there sucks and the time has long since past in my life when I have to be budget where I eat. I have them meet me at my room in the Marco Polo Bar. Most will do this if they are seriously interested in meeting me. Many also want to see what the hotel looks like and the rooms.

If the lady flat out refuses to go to my Hotel, I usually just tell her "goodbye". If I am really interested in her I will suggest we meet for lunch at De Bonte Koe Restaurant or someplace similar. If they do not wish to meet in a nice (elegant) restaurant I just end it then. I am not into the Davao street trash and any woman I meet, if we hit it off, will end up a guest at GE's Manse or dinner in the rooftop Club in the Marco Polo. She will have to acquire some large element of class in any event. So far I have had absolutely no problem meeting ladies in Davao that are like this.

I have done my share of street trash in the 90's & early part of this decade. I still need to make time to relate some of the unpleasant experiences with fucking the bottom feeders. By limiting myself to quality young women who are educated and employed in decent jobs, I no longer have to lock up my cellphone, camera, wrist watch and onther items worth more than $ 30 US. I still do have my cash in the Hotel safe and keep my wallet also out of sight when meeting a woman for the first time.

Dragon Slayer

well, i arrived in bangkok last week after 10 days in davao city. overall i had a great time. some of the suggestions from dragon slayer, goodenough and others really enhanced the experience.

i stayed at the galleria hotel, which, at php 795 ($20) per night is a very good value. it's a great location downtown within walking distance of all of the hot spots. it also has a small swimming pool. my main complaint about the galleria is that they only have wireless internet in the lobby, and the service (from globe) is quite expensive at php 100 per hour / php 400 for 24 hours.

as many have already mentioned, davao isn't pattaya. the p4p scene can be elusive. i wasn't too keen on the streetwalkers hanging out with the pimps and mamasans downtown. some looked ****, while others just looked dirty. i passed on that scene altogether.

in thailand i tend to frequent the massage parlors, but, much to my dismay, a massage in davao is generally a "legit" massage without a happy ending. i'm sure there are some places that give full service, but i didn't come across any.

it seems that the best way to connect with the p4p scene is to speak to the taxi drivers and ask them if they can take you to a "casa" to meet some attractive girls. in fact, this is exactly what i did, and it paid dividends immediately.

my driver spoke to another driver in the area and got some information. we drove for about 10 minutes and pulled up to a fast food stand on a side road. he got out and talked to the woman who ran the stand, who motioned for me to get out of the car. she escorted me to a large back room with sofas and a television set and told me to wait for about 10-15 minutes.

at this point i figured i didn't need the driver anymore, so i told him he could leave. i offered him php 100 extra for finding the place for me, but he asked for 200, so i gave it to him.

the woman who ran the place told me that i would have to take the girl i chose back to my hotel room, as they don't have any bedrooms there. she's basically just a pimp. she specializes in finding college girls who want to make extra cash on the side. i'm not sure how many girls she has in her black book, but three showed up within five minutes of each other. all three were studying at one of the local universities.

one of the girls was about a 4-5, another was in the 5-6 range, and the third was in the 7-8 range. the woman asked me for php 1,500, which i balked at, and countered with 1,000, which was probably still higher than i could have gotten. she agreed, and i took the hottest of the girls back to my room at the galleria -- but not before talking to the mamasan to get her contact information (address of the place and mobile number).

i jumped in a taxi with the girl and we came back to the galleria. i laughed when, after she got out of the shower and lay naked on my bed, she said, "you will romance me first, or i will romance you first?" i assumed she was talking about oral sex, and i was right.

overall the girl's attitude wasn't the greatest. she was a little weird, but the sex was good, and and it wasn't excessively mechanical.

i also got some good free sex from a contact i cultivated from cherryblossoms.com. she was a 36-year-old from the outskirts of town who confessed to me in chat before my trip that she had only had sex with her ex-husband and really wanted to see what sex with a white guy was all about. i told her i'd be happy to make her dreams come true.

i ended up seeing her twice during my trip. the sex was great, and bareback, because she complained so loudly when i went to get a condom. "i'm not a prostitute, you know!" she exclaimed. the guys who said that non-pro filipino girls have very negative views toward condoms sure hit the nail on the head. when i said i didn't want any babies, she countered with, "you can pull out then." i didn't really have a comeback for that one, and since the idea of bareback sounded pretty damned good, i didn't protest.

this girl was a real maniac. we fucked in every position imaginable, including some i didn't even know existed. she seemed to have an insatiable appetite, but it was a lot of fun.

unfortunately, i wasn't into her personality, so the second i busted a nut, i just wanted her to leave. sadly, that proved difficult, as she wanted to cuddle and watch a movie.

this girl also had the same "disease" that virtually every pinay i met on the trip had. i'm talking about mobile phone addiction. they're mostly too cheap (or poor) to afford to talk on the phone, so they use these mobile phones as dedicated text message machines, constantly pushing buttons all day long. for god's sake, she even reached for the thing once during sex when a message from a friend came through.

walking with her on the street was a huge pain in the ass too, since she continually lagged far behind -- the cumulative result of high heels and constant text messaging.

finally i got rid of her and ignored most of her calls and messages for the remainder of the trip.

davao definitely has a thriving food scene, and i tried as much as i could during my stay. de bonte koe on rizal st. was indeed a great place to eat. i'd highly recommend the dutch stew and the european salad with bacon, feta cheese and hot honey mustard dressing. it was outstanding.

i also tried filipino food for the first time. i really got to like adobo, and loved the fact that you could get fantastic rotisserie chicken on practically every corner. it was some of the best i've had. however, some of the other filipino cuisine i sampled was less impressive.

i was also a bit disappionted with el toro, the spanish restaurant in the same rizal st. complex as de bonte koe and also owned by henny. i felt that the paella was extremely mediocre, though the appetizers were quite good. having eaten great paella in spain and the usa, this wasn't up to par at all in my opinion.

expat central is definitely o'flanagan's downtown near the gaisano south mall on illustre st. the owner offers slow wireless internet for php 20 per day, and it's a good place to meet up with other expats in the area.

overall, i had a great time in davao. it lacks the sophistication of cities like manila, cebu and bangkok, but is certainly more sophisticated and modern than a city like phnom penh.

i will say that i've never been to a city in which i felt like the women gave me more attention than in davao. this was never felt more than in the shopping malls i frequented (sm city, victoria plaza, gaisano and gaisano south). if you want to meet regular girls, there are plenty of opportunities at the malls for a guy with a bit of game who's not afraid to approach them. many will definitely make eye contact and show obvious interest.

of course, your mileage may vary. if you're a younger, reasonably attractive guy, you should have no trouble at all. if you're older and/or less attractive, your rap will just have to be that much better, but the game will still be tilted far more in your favor than it likely is in your home country.

if you're looking for a point-and-click scene like bangkok, pattaya, angeles city or san jose, forget it, because davao is not that kind of city. i'd personally only recommend davao for those who are willing to do one or more of the following:

1) work the dating service scene in order to "hit the ground running." you can have a date or two every single day if you start laying the foundation a few weeks before your trip. cherryblossoms.com (pay) and dateinasia.com (free) were the two i used with good results. if a girl tells you she loves/misses you right away and/or asks for money, dump her and move on to the next one.
2) approach non-pro girls on the street, at the malls, at shops, etc.
3) talk to cab drivers and ask them to take you to a casa that they know of.

finally, i am willing to share my casa contact information with anyone who requests it via pm, with the understanding that you will be respectful and responsible with the information.

i'm sure she would welcome the extra business, but since she also runs a legitimate shop business out front, i'm suspect that she also doesn't want it to become monger central with her cell phone blowing up every three minutes. please keep it discreet.

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Thanks Duggins for your post. It's been years since I looked for/tried the casa scene here and I'm glad to know it still exists. You're correct of course about the El Toro paella, but I'm just glad to have a place in Davao that even makes it. We're not exactly overwhelmed here with European-style restaurants. The next time you're here, you might also want to try to pepper steak at Henny's which is also quite good.

There are four or five decent P4P bars here: Hot Legs 1, 2, and 3, Roman Plaza and Moonlight to name a few, but they're not nearly as ubiquitous as in Cebu or Manila and, as you so accurately point out, the major attraction of Davao is the ability to meet non-pros almost anywhere you go.

GE

DS and you others, are you winding those girls up with stories about future relations, or do you tell them that they basically are more or less temporary girl friends / the shag of the day?

I am chatting with some girls and have tried different approaches. I tell them all that I'm not into the serious marriage business. But some I give a very strait "I just want to meet a girl to have fun"-story, and others get the more sophisticated (?) version that have some underlying theme of potential "future serious girlfriend" to whom I will be faithful (big laugh!). While I feel less comfortable with the last story since it will for sure mean those girls wanting to control me, the romance version has definitely proved much more efficient when it come to winding the females up for our future encounters. The ones that are up for just fucking their brains out without any commitment are quite scarce.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

Regards B.

Hello Duggins and thanks for the reading.

Always nice to see such detailed reports. I'm going back to Davao and would definately be gratefull to have a casa up the sleeve for those days when nothing else works.

I will treat this info with respect and discretion.

Regards B.

Duggins,

Thankyou for posting your exploits in my Forum. I appreciate it and so do many guys who check here daily for posts.

A few points. You were a 2 minute walk from the Chikkachat Internet Cafe (P20/hr) on Illustre St. In July I named it the "Pussynet cafe". In one week then I entered and an hour or so later left with a lady I met there. Two of the three I fucked back in my Hotel room and the other I had join me at O'Flanagan's where she took my dick out in the back "handjob booth" and proceeded to give me a nice hj under the table while I moved my hand up under her blouse and bra and massaged her tit and nipple. I had my Jen back at the MP that day so I could not bring her there. I never did manage to meet up with her again as things got "very busy" for me.

You were a five minute walk from Ground Zero. Here from 5:00PM till 9:00PM you can meet nurses from the Hospital, nursing students, co-eds and women out shopping or getting off from work at the mall. From 8:30PM until midnight or so you can get semi-pro co-eds for P500-600/nt. Most likely the same ladies that the old woman called. I bet of your P1000 the girls were lucky to get P200. You did not have to give the cab driver more than P100. He would have returned after you left to collect a P100 commission from the old woman.

I am surprised at the 36 y/o not wanting you to use a condom. Most of the educated filipinas I met have no problem with this. Of course they have no problem with you not using a condom (how my Son came about with a lady on staff at a Cebu Hospital).

Thanks again for posting.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Barba]DS and you others, are you winding those girls up with stories about future relations, or do you tell them that they basically are more or less temporary girl friends / the shag of the day?

I am chatting with some girls and have tried different approaches. I tell them all that I'm not into the serious marriage business. But some I give a very strait "I just want to meet a girl to have fun"-story, and others get the more sophisticated (?) version that have some underlying theme of potential "future serious girlfriend" to whom I will be faithful (big laugh!). While I feel less comfortable with the last story since it will for sure mean those girls wanting to control me, the romance version has definitely proved much more efficient when it come to winding the females up for our future encounters. The ones that are up for just fucking their brains out without any commitment are quite scarce.

Any advice is highly appreciated.

Regards B.[/QUOTE]Barba raises and interesting point about the ethics of the whole "normal" girl phenomenon. Establishing some sort of relationship often hinges on the "to lie or not to lie" dilemma. I'm uncomfortable with lying about my intentions--especially since there's no possibility of anything long term--and I never do. I guess it's a strong argument for the P4P scene if you want to avoid the entire problem.

GE

GE, your right. It is to uncomfortable to fill a girl with lies, at least for me (to).
So yesterday I adopted a policy of saying/writing the truth about my intentions.
Fun, fuck and some luxury, but without any promised future of anything, except for perhaps the same treatment next time I'm around.

If this leaves me without any normal girls to date I'll just have to stick to the pay4fun. But I have received four written replies from girls so far and all said "I don't mind, I still want to meet you". :-) LOL

Regards Barba - with a steep learning curve at the moment

Duggins,

Thank you for taking the time to writte an excellent report. Places to go, contact info. Very helpfull.

Thanks again

Guys,

Not sure what my buddy, GoodEnough is referring to and I guess Barba is certain I lie my fucking head off to these women, filling them with lies about marriage. This can go on forever.

How do you meet and fuck regular women in your own country? Or don't you gentlemen ever do this? I can state firmly that I NEVER MAKE ANY PROMISES OF MARRIAGE. I do not even leave this as a possible option at some future point. On another point, I do NOT tell them how wealthy I am, never discuss money or finances or anything. Any conclusions they reach come from how I act, talk, dress and where I stay.

So how do I do it? By being charming, polite, nice, personable and complimenting the lady often. Also, I am never crude, telling the women I "want to fuck them" or using any crude, sleazy behavior. I romance the ladies, be very nice to them.

When a woman tells me it is "too soon" or she "is not ready", I do not get angry or make threats. I was disturbed by Wlfie threatening to throw Rotchell out in the middle of the night if she didn't fuck him. The little squirt would be sitting alone in his room holding his dick if I didn't come to his aid.

Romancing and seducing nice ladies is about having class and being romantic. It also requires a proper setting which is why I avoid meeting them at malls, cheap filipino eateries or dumpy hotel rooms. I have them come to where I stay and I make them feel comfortable, offer them a drink, talk to them and gradually get the to snuggle up next to me so I can gently apply "Slayer's Art of Seduction".

When Rose first met me she sat in a chair in my hotel room talking with me and did not get within ten feet of me for 1 1/2 hours. It was morning so I suggested we go to breakfast at my Club (rooftop of MP). She said she as not hungry but I told her that I was and that my Membership Fee included braekfast so it was foolish not to eat. Over breakfast i spoke wiht her about her work and her life.

Back in the room she moved next to me on the bed. I began kissing her neck and down her chest. She let me open her blouse to feel her huge tits. Then I started to kiss her tits and suck on the nipples. She got excited and said, "can I see yours (my dick)". I pulled it out and she began to stroke it. I got her to remove her pants so I could feel her pussy. Few minutes later I was holding her huge tits in my hands as she, now on top, was riding my dick and telling me how good it felt to have it deep inside her.

When I meet a lady in the late afternoon or evening for the first time I always have a bottle of champagne chilling in the room refrigerator. Unlike the Kid (my nephew), I do not see any point in getting a woman drunk to fuck her. Can have severe consequences in the aftermath. But champagne gets her to relax and be "in the mood" for love. I have the lights down low and music softly playing. In Cebu i have the jacuzzi bathtub full of nice, warm water and bubble bath. In davao I have the curtains pulled all the way back so the view of the city and the ocean can be seen in the twilight.

You guys do it your way. This is what works for me. The Kid has never been able to acquire the "skill" or "finesse" so he needs to look for a different type of lady. The guy I used to permit (I was fucking stupid) to travel with me years earlier whom I call the "Bone Collector" never got it either. Bones was an even bigger strike out with the women than the Kid, if such a thing is possible.

Dragon Slayer

Prior to my Davao trip, I was actually contemplating a longer-term move there. After a week there, I came to like it and met some great people, but decided that Bangkok had more to offer at a fairly comparable cost of living, so that's where I am now.

During my correspondence with Filipinas from dating sites, I told them honestly that I planned to be in Davao for 6-12 months. I ended up having a change of plans, but at the time during which I was corresponding with these girls, I was being honest with them about the duration of my stay.

The 36-year-old to whom I referred in my trip report was never misled about my intentions or feelings toward her. The fact that she initiated chat about sexual topics and confided to me that she really wanted to try sex with a white guy made me feel perfectly OK about having a short-term purely sexual relationship with her even though I had no interest in her for a long-term situation.

Given the theme of this website, I didn't spend time talking about any of the other dating site girls I met on the trip, since I didn't have sex with any of the others. I actually ended up spending most of my time with one of the girls I met from Cherryblossoms. She took me back to her family's house near the airport. They're very poor. I never had sex with this girl. She was extremely sweet, and our relationship was more that of friends than anything else, by my choice.

Her family lives in an area inhabited by squatters in a house made out of a combination of bamboo slats, corrugated tin and billboard advertisements. To get to the house you have to walk about 100 yards from the main airport road through the woods. The area has about seven homes that would be instantly condemned in any civilized nation. The worst Compton crack houses don’t even compare. I've attached a photo to give you an idea of what it's like.

This girl’s house is the only one in the area with electricity, so all of the neighbors constantly stop by to have the family charge their cell phones for about $0.12 per charge. There are nine people living in the house, which is probably about 300 square feet at most. Two people sleep in each bed, and when I say “bed,” I mean something like a futon mattress thrown onto a bamboo floor. Each bedroom is the size of a small Western bathroom.

Their actual bathroom is an outhouse shared by all of the residents of the area. Dogs and roosters pretty much have their run of the place. The main entertainment each day consists of karaoke and afternoon television programs like “Wah Wah Wee” that wouldn’t be considered very entertaining in the USA.

To give you an idea of how poor these people are, the girl I got to know works 12-hour days in a local factory, for which she receives the daily sum of 90 pesos (USD $2.15) before taxes. That’s a meager USD $0.18 per hour.

Despite their impoverished living conditions, the family and neighbors are extremely close. They don’t have much money, but I can’t help but feel that their lives are a lot richer than those of many people in most developed nations—especially North America, Australia, New Zealand and Europe. They’re some of the happiest people I’ve ever met, and they have a real sense of community that’s lacking in the West. While some of us never even get to know our neighbors, theirs are practically like family.

Anyway, that wasn't all relevant to the question you asked, but it will give you guys an idea of just how poor some of the girls you chat with on these dating sites really are. It's truly another world.

I've lost out on a hell of a lot of sex by being the "nice guy" and avoiding the pursuit of short-term sexual relationships with girls who wanted something serious. Finding that balance between respecting these girls as people and satisfying your sexual desires isn't always easy. It's not black and white.

I try to be ethical about these issues, and, like DS said, a key component is simply to not lead them on. Don't tell a girl you love her, want to marry her or talk about anything long term if you have no intention of following through. Just take things casually, promise nothing, and enjoy the ride.

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Ds,

I have no preconception of what you tell any lady you meet. I know as little about anybody on this site as they know about me. Having this said I must mention that I might be a slow starter, but pulling what you describe off within 15 minutes of meeting a girl in the Internet café would indeed be a challenge.

Just joking. I get your point. For sure class is a well proven strategy for some type of ladies. It takes class to get class. The technique you use was actually allready quite clear to me. It was more a question about the "promise-issue" and I intepret what you write as you do give compliments but always make it clear that this is a somewhat temporary relation.

I admit NOT writing some girls about my commitment at home but that is all past me now. LOL!

The ring on my finger normally wipes away quite a bit of the marriage-hope, but there is still the "can I be your ONLY gf in Davao"-issue. The answer is NO from now on. : D "Can we be ONLY friends? " NO, I have friends!

I was seeing one rather simple but quite religious 19 year old girl last trip. This was in between the ones that actually agreed to more than an occasional kiss. She is fantastically beautiful virgin with high moral principles and a body to go with them. Money does not impress her. She works hard and takes little interest in either luxury or champagne. Sounds boring, but I tell you she is sculptured out of power, charisma and self preservation. If I get single I will ask for her hand. This might be my equivalent to DS: s desire for classy woman. The bigger the challenge, the more interesting gets the chase for me. But lying to this girl was out of the question from day one. I'm far from a position to moralize, but to take this girls virginity as a result of anything but the truth, would haunt me forever. The observant might ask himself why the fuck Barba cares about this. He is paying for sex anyway (as previously stated). Well, I suffer from a split personality. The chase is just to much fun to lay it off totally.

In my country it would normally be a disaster to start to talk about marriage or commitments, even within the first weeks. Women are way to independent. Romance and champagne works to some extent but mostly on the few air heads that has no cash. And those are few I tell you. Actually the best pickup is to be frank and ask them if they want to get their brains fucked out. This in combination with politeness and respect for their independence and value as pleasure seeking women is normally successful. If you in addition have a 30 cm black dick it helps further. But I don't so I can't play the exotic card. The other type needs way more commitment than 4 hours of sweet talking. When those tight females do visit the bar or café, they move in packs of at least four females that looks at any man with disgust. Snotty bitches normally, that try to boost their self esteem by adopting a shitty stay away-attitude.

But I prefer to fuck around in Asia, Latin America or other far away continents anyway, so I don't bother with the local scene any more. In my world I got the best female on this continent already.

As someone wrote: keep it out of the post code. Hell, why not the country code. Try not to shit on the dining table.

With the risk of shitting where I write instead, I will NOT mind my own business for once:

DS, you are really hard on those guys. I can see your point but they have their way and you have yours. I'm sure you can be a nice guy but sometimes you are a bit of a Bush, when something is not "your way". The women they meet get something out of those losers and I assume they are adults that needs the cash more than they dislike the shit for brains treatment. It's a business transaction for those people. All can't be Byron Nelson, and the cash flows in the right direction at least.

I was thinking if this is OT here and should go to "Filipinas: Opinions and Advice", but DS, what is the actual topic in this thread?

Regards B.

Duggins, thanks for sharing that. The house in your picture is fairly typical of the living quarters of one hell of a lot of the populations here, and pretty representative of the communities in which we work. Can anyone wonder why these girls want to leave, or at the least try to take some advantage of far wealthier foreigners? More than half the population here lives below the poverty line of $1 per family member per day, and things ain't getting any better any time soon.

Now just imagine the reaction of a young woman, who comes from this type of environment where everything is a constant struggle, when she sees the private club at the Marco Polo courtesy of DS. It's a different planet for them; and a world that they've never seen before, and it's a world that's easy to get used to. I've never seen or heard DS tell any of the women he's been with here anything but the entire truth. He never lies, and he never creates false expectations, but he is extremely nice to them, plus he's very generous with taking them to very nice places, giving them presents for no obvious reason, and making them feel like people.

I think that showing a woman that you're interested in her as a human being, and not merely as a vessel for your bodily fluids goes a very long way in this country. The fact is that Westerners in general, I think, simply like women as people more than most Filipinos do and this comes across in the day-to-day interactions. It's another reason that Filipinas are so attracted to Western men. Being courteous, gentle and generous is the key.

GE

Duggins,

Thankyou for your excellent post. I have seen many in Manila, Cebu and Leyte living in horrible dumps. The 20 y/o guy who used to shine my shoes in Cebu City in the mid 90's lived in a large furniture box on a side street off Sanciangko St in downtown Cebu. When he told me he got married I wondered if he moved his wife into the box or they got a larger box (baby grand piano box?).

Thailand is great also. I had my honeymoon years ago in Bangkok. Sad the marriage did not last long. I stopped going there after I "discovered" mainland China and the women there. I never stopped going to the Philippines since my first Trip in 1991 (had been going to Thailand for years already).

Wowwowie is the favorite program of many filipinas. Spend time with these ladies, you have to "get used to watching" it. The other night my little son got on the phone and the first thing he had to say to daddy was "wowwowieee". He was watching it with his mother who was on her lunch hour from the Hospital. He was an unplanned accident from not using contraceptives with his mother. Knowing her profession, I assumed she would have no trouble getting the 48 hr morning after pill. Wrong! I have never regretted this for an instant even. These "accidents" can be wonderful.

You saw the lowest level of living here. Many do not have it anywhere near as bad. The places I have visited were often small but comfortable with decent bathrooms and most appliances. Just a note but a little bit of money can go a long way towards helping the family of any woman you are seeing. I sent Lory (see photos on Cebu Board) a small amount for Valentine's Day after she told me the married asshole had dropped her. She sent it home to get the Family electricity turned back on at their home. Of course, now I am supposed to send a "little more" so she can have the nice dinner it was intended for then.

Dragon Slayer