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[QUOTE=Retired Army]I'm willing to bet anyone could get laid in BKK. All it takes is $. Why do you think so many "losers" in their home countries come to Thailand.[/QUOTE]
I was trying to explain to a friend why third world countries have such large expat populations. Thanks for providing the explanation.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]I'm willing to bet anyone could get laid in BKK. All it takes is $. Why do you think so many "losers" in their home countries come to Thailand.[/QUOTE]
What constitutes being a loser?
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]No no, these girls have known me for a long time. There is no point at all to telling me bullshit and sucking up. They know I appreciate natural straight talking, and have seen me reject the sucking-up bullshiter types.[/QUOTE]So, Mick, you are suggesting that you can really believe what they tell you? This, in a culture that is extensively known for portraying an idealism that has little to do with (stark) reality. I am aware that you have lived in LOS for a reasonable time, but I must say that I wonder. Whether this is believable.
After all, the key to successful deception is to include some truth.
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]What constitutes being a loser?[/QUOTE]Your mood/State of mind.
To be fare I must agree that there is a class of bargirl who likes young and handsome men.
Obviously a young and handsome man is more of a visual turn on than an older guy. The bargirl will usually spend a bit of time with him to suss out his character, is he a good guy or an arsehole, is he generous or stingy. Some of these girls are looking for potential boyfriends. These girls will probably be O.K. with somewhat older guys provided they meet certain standards, i.e. still looks good, still acts lively,etc.
Many of these girls are thinking more about what fun they might have with the guy than how much money they will make. Their hormones may be doing the thinking for them. Some of these girls will be competing with other girls in the bar as to who can hook the best looking man.
Girls in this category may well be good in bed with a young man that turns them on but become a starfish with an older ordinary looking guy that doesn't turn them on. Fortunately I don't meet starfish girls very often but I have had very weak performers that may well perform better with a young spunky guy.
I know bargirls that started out only going with young handsome men, and then only when the guy really turned them on. Over time they started going with more and more men, and older ones. Eventually these girls started to prefer the older O.K. looking guys because they paid better.
The key for older guys like me, when choosing a bargirl, is to watch that she is reacting well to me and giving the right signals. This is the main way to avoid the starfish. If she seems reluctant in any way, its probably better to choose again, as the sex may well be disappointing.
In MPs, we don't have this ability, so its more luck of the draw, although MP girls are used to going with all ages.
Although I am not a young handsome man, I am fortunately not looking in the really old category yet as hair has not gone all grey. I can't get magically young, but can look to improve my body shape and fitness through exercise.
My last GF even stopped calling me "Moo Uan" (fat piggy) after I lost 5 Kgs. So these measures do have an effect.
Overall I think any bargirl will weigh up a number of considerations in which customer she wants to hook, in varied priority:
* Will he pay well
* Is a nice cosiderate type
* Does he make her feel important
* Is he fun
* Is he good looking
* Does he have a hot body
* Is he too old
* Is he too demanding or too much hassle
* Is he manipulable.
Those bargirls with bad character will have a slightly different set of priorities.
I have been lurking for a few years and now have a small contribution to help other mongers. Found myself in Bangkok last week. Could not just go out and enjoy what was on offer. We all had name tags, so I'm sure you get the picture. Our hotel was about 500 meteres from the Starbucks at the entrance to Patpong. Found an excuse to miss a lunch meeting, and thanks to all the info on the forum went straight to SOL within 5 minutes. Outside were about 8 to ten fair looking young women sitting ariund talking and laughing. When I walked up they stopped talking and just stared. When I smiled the started smiling back. Looked over the lot and made eye contact with a couple, and nodded to one who looked the most animated and appealing. May be a 7 in the bright sunlight. Walked inside and she followed.
She asked if I wanted a drink and pointed to the sighn that said beer 80 baht, and lady drinks 100 baht, I shook my head no, and she held her hand up to her mouth and made a stroking hand and mouth motion for the universal BJ sign. I nodded yes, and she asked "How much you pay? " I said 700 baht ($20) and she said OK. I sat down on the black plastic sofa, and she knealed on the floor, unzipped my pants and statedt a great BJ. The bar gal was watching and anothe gal from outside walked up and whisperd that she woul join in if I wanted. While the first gal was liking and sucking (slowly and deeply at my request) I had a conversation with the 2nd gal and arrived at 500 baht for her to join. It was hard to get three people doing fun things on the little sofa very discreetly. The bar gal turned down the lights, no. 1 pulled my pants off completely and piled my shoes, socks, and all on the end of the sofa. No 2 started on my balls, licking and sucking gently. Every minute or two I would have them swich thier duties. No customers walked in for a drink or anything else, but the bar gal was watching pretty close and every once in a while a gal from outside would wonder in and say something to whoever was sucking and pat her head or back. Kind of a little Hi five. After about 20 minutes I could hold out no longer. Whoever was sucking lightened up, slowed down and kept going for another couple of minutes, until I said OK. Got every last drop from me. Used some toilet paper to spit in and the went behind the bar and started the gargle, choke, spit cycle for a couple of minutes. The back to me. A quick wipe with some TP, help with shoes socks and pants. I handed over 1200 baht. They smiled and said come back. I did, the next day. Say exact routine with two different gals.
Great $20 BJ with $15 assist.
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Old versus young. I guess it's quite obvious that aging make no one more attractive. Attitude, experience, wisdom and laid back behaviour often grow with age, not always of course. So, some girls might have made better experience with older fellows. For Bargirls this might be important. I do not often barfine bargirls, I prefer to hunt for freelancer girls in Clubs and Discos. There it's so, at least that is my experience, that younger and handsome guys will have more success.
There are many freelancer whose have a normal job, or a sponsor (mostly an older guy) who live abroad and send loads of money. The girls with a job, whose want to earn a bit more by going to farang discos, are looking for fun and money. So, even a middle age or older guy, who spend them drinks and money can be succesful. The girls who have rich sponsor, who are independent regarding money, are mainly looking for young and handsome guys. The older fellow might have them during his visits in Thailand, but inbetween, the have fun with a good looking guy in their age.
So, my general conclusion is that girls whose in need of money looking for guys with a good attitude and behaviour, regardless if young or old. Girls whose looking for sex and company, prefer younger guys.
I met last year a freelancer girl in Spice Club. She is usually working in Hong Kong. We were some days together in Bangkok and Pattaya. She had there some friends and sometimes we went out together. Her one friend had a sponsor from Switzerland. But, a boyfriend in Thailand. Her boyfriend was half English, half Thai and live with his parents in Bangkok. I am not sure if the sponsor care if she has a boyfriend beside him, or not. At least it's often so that the older fellow is for the money, the younger for the heart.
I am 39 year old, average looking and in quite good shape. The first time when I was in Thailand I was 23 years old. So, I have experience when I was young and now as a middle age guy.
Was the time better when I was young? I would say no. The sex is better now, since I have more money I can have better Hotels, can afford a better lifestil and since I have more experience I choose the better girls and treat them in the right way. Also, since I am not more so timid, I get the better looking girls.
I go to Thailand only for having a good time, not for looking for love, or a lifetime partner. So, thats the main reason why I enjoy Thailand now even more than when I was younger.
Love to read your reports and view of everything Mick.
You are really cutting things up to be analyzed.
I think we have our first doc in mongering.
PB
You people talk as if we are discussing normal romantic situations.
A bar girl is a bargirl. she is there to make money whichever way possible. She might have started out looking for romance to get her out of poverty, but
the demands on her to make money quickly is re inforced by her family, mamasan, her co workers etc.
I am sure many a bargirls have found romance and settled down. It is more likely that they have settled down with older guys. A bargirl would sincerely wish a free spending young guy to take her everywhere. In reality it is more of an exception than a rule.
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]What constitutes being a loser?[/QUOTE]
From the RA Dictionary of Terms:
A man between the ages of 18 - 65 who can't get sex in his home country and therefore must travel to economically depressed foreign third-world countries to find women willing to do anything for money.
[QUOTE=*****man]Mick Licker, the girls tell you the things they think you want to hear. Of course if you're an old duffer the girl will tell you she doesn't like young handsome men. If you're a young handsome man she'll tell you she doesn't like old men. The reality is that most girls will go wild for a young handsome man. Instead of believing the nonsense the girls tell you, talk to some of these young guys and I can assure you they don't need your advice on how to get laid in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]This is not always the case. One TG regular I had did on a number of occasions speak of her preference for young handsome men. Which is one of the least of the reasons she is now history. BTW, she is from the south of BKK area near Phuket, which OTH has said has an in your face type of girl. But I have cum across at least two other P4P TGs who have spoken of liking young boys, and they were not southerners. At least so they claimed. In general, though, I think it is good advice to not believe anything a hooker says.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]From the RA Dictionary of Terms:
A man between the ages of 18 - 65 who can't get sex in his home country and therefore must travel to economically depressed foreign third-world countries to find women willing to do anything for money.[/QUOTE]
So your version of a loser does not exist because sex can be found by any man in any country. In the third world it’s only cheaper and the quality is great :D
Was in BKK early in Jan and visited Nana Plaza. Whilst seated in a bar called "Pretty Lady" or similar on the ground floor I saw a middle aged mongerer grab a pantieless girl dancing on the stage, pulled her towards him, pushed his head betweeb her legs, and proceeded to dine at the "Big Y".
Now that is what I call living on the edge! Wonder if his tongue was still pink and normal looking in the morning. The look on the girls face was priceless. She was clearly impressed.
After 30 seconds of slurping he went back to his beer.
[QUOTE=Retired Army]From the RA Dictionary of Terms:
A man between the ages of 18 - 65 who can't get sex in his home country and therefore must travel to economically depressed foreign third-world countries to find women willing to do anything for money.[/QUOTE]
Wait - but I already belong to a third-world country - Egypt. I still travel abroad for sex because of religious/social traditions (no sex before marriage + I am Christian in a country where 90% are Muslim) and the fact you can't marry someone from a 'social/wealth class' beneath yours. I belong to a tiny wealthy minority (3%) whose women are even stingier than Western Woman. Although educated, they are too lazy in many things. Cannot fuck, clean or cook. Prefer to hire maids. Once you marry them you fuck them once and that's it. Complain that sex is disgusting and that they are tired. As they age their skin gets worse and body not up-to-shape due to eating habits. They are only just interested in drinking coffee, buying designer clothes and showing off to their friends.
So why waste your money in them? I would just hire a Filipina domestic instead to do all my house-work. And maybe fuck too. None of that American Woman crap.
By the way I am 19, am not fat or anything, drive a BMW 5 Series and have plenty of inheritance, so it has nothing to do with being a loser.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Thinking about getting my teeth clean in BKK, any good places near Nana, aside from Bumrungrad.
Thanks in advance, LBM[/QUOTE]Nana Square. Less than half a block from NEP and Nana Hotel.
Costs less than 30 dollars.