Berlin

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1421471]Sorry Neutron Flux, I've just checked my accounting ("It's a heartache"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8VGQTtENSs[/url]

) :

August 12th. 2010:1 hour with Nele (150 € + 20 € for FK)

November 4th. 2011:1 hour with Louisa (150 € + 20 € for FK)

So, now, I realized that it would be worth mentioning the prices in our reports![/QUOTE]If you actually keep track of that, that's definitely better than my memory, yes, sorry for confusing things. I don't think I took the hour program at Royal more than a few times anyway, I usually just do half hour plus one extra. Due to the high fluctuation at Royal I never really had a regular girl there, and I usually prefer shorter sessions with new girls. I'm fairly certain though, when I did the hour last time, must have been in the last December days last year, it was already 200 not 190 (incl. BBBJ, DFK). But I don't really keep track of my expenses on this too much, it would make me sad too, haha. I just decide spontaneously if my account balance allows for that or not.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1421479]. Etc.

I usually prefer shorter sessions with new girls. Etc.[/QUOTE]It's why I like the simple and fair prices systems in Kamilla-Dee (and Prestige)

More than once, in Kamilla Dee (KD) , I started a 30 minutes session with a new lady and then stayed longer with her (and with fair prices).
[i](see, for example, my first meeting with former-Romy in 2005 ("memories ..." -Barbra Streisand (The way we were)) on "11-16-05" : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/printthread.php?t=668&pp=15&page=317[/url])[/i]

As I already mentionned, the (very nice and sympathic) receptionist in Royal confirmed me that if I started with 45 minutes and extended the meeting into 2*45 minutes, I would pay more than 2*Price (45 minutes) : it's why I qualify this prices systems unfair.

Furthermore, she confirmed me that if I started by 45 minutes, I could extend this meeting only if, during these 45 minutes, no one came to ask for a meeting with the lady who was with me.

KD has another concept that is more suitable to me : "As we give each client the possibility, to expand the time with his dream-lady as long as he wishes, in isolated cases it might come to more or less postponement of your meeting." (look at the bottom of [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/appointment.htm[/url].)

[i]To be precise :

1) I arrive at KD without any appointments and ask for lady X.

2) If, before my arrival, she already had an appointment that would occur in 1 hour, I could not extend my 45min-meeting : this appointment (made before my arrival) has better priority than my meeting.

3) If, at my arrival, lady X didn't have any appointments, so my meeting has priority above all other clients who would ask to meet her during my / our meeting.

[/i]

To me it's a "confortable" AND fair rule.

At Prestige, I don't know how is the rule.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1421479]. Etc.

I'm fairly certain though, when I did the hour last time, must have been in the last December days last year, it was already 200 not 190 (incl. BBBJ, DFK).

Etc.[/QUOTE]I can not say anything about prices in December : I can just confirm that on November 4th. 2011, the prices were 150€ for one hour and 20€ for FK.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1421479]. Etc.

But I don't really keep track of my expenses on this too much, it would make me sad too, haha. I just decide spontaneously if my account balance allows for that or not.[/QUOTE]I hope this kind of personal accounting would help me to be aware about unreasonable addiction and problems with my Bank!

Hi everyone,

I'm new here. I'm going to Berlin next month and I would visit the laufhaus [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/[/url]. But I have a question. Is extra ball include if you take 45 minutes or more? If not, how much is it? Because it's not listed in their website.

Thank you guys.

[QUOTE=DamGeek; 1421685]Hi everyone,

I'm new here. I'm going to Berlin next month and I would visit the laufhaus.

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/[/url]

But I have a question. Is extra ball include if you take 45 minutes or more? If not, how much is it? Because it's not listed in their website.

Thank you guys.[/QUOTE]Even though they do not say it explicitly in the price list the industry standard is generally 1 pop for half hour and below and two pops for 40-45 mins. And above. (I assume by "balls" you mean pops or cums) I would suggest that you confirm this with the hausmutti or with the individual lady but I think that you can be pretty certain that as long as you are able you will get that. Keep in mind that in such low rent places they are pretty accurate with the time keeping and if you are labouring to finish you will not get an extra three mins. $5 mins. Generally means 45 mins. And not 48. That is the price you pay for paying the lesser price in a discount bordello.

AM

Thank you for your answer, Angus.

Thanks to RB's info and some google mapping I visited the new location of VanKampen, yesterday. The entrance is in a small parking lot, shared with a supermarket called Aidi or something.

Theres a small ramp climbing to the entrance of the supermarket and just in front of it, where the ramp strts climbing up, is the door of VK, you ring the bell, they open and you have to go up some stairs. 2/3 floors, to enter the place. Not the smartest location. The supermarket will soon move away, but what is going to take it's place? A car seller? A kindergarten?

A friendly hausmutt led me to a room and the parade started. It was around 12:30. Not impressed by the lineup, maybe 6/7 girls, couple of big asses. Of the bunch I was interested in Kate (which is a different Kate from the one that was listed on their site some time ago, with tatoos on her leg) , still interesting.

Then Lara appeared, dressed up in a very naughty schoolgirl suit.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/lara.html[/url]

Lara is from Hamburg, this was her second day at VK. 22yr. Speaks very good english, said she lived in the US for some time. Very young looking, the suit enforced that. She asked If I wanted her to undress but I decided to start the session with her dresses on, most of them.

She wouldn't allow DATY, and that was a disappointment, but, WTF.

Average BBBJ, not deep. Had fun taking her doggy for a long time, and then another average BBBJ with cim. Overall, a mediocre session.

100 euro for 40 min.

20 for BBBJ.

20 for kissing.

20 for cim.

Bad value for the money if compared to Artemis, where I could get the same services from a real stunner, with better handling and 30 euros less. Anyway, old story and personal point of view.

Facilities are very nice at VK, all is nice and clean, nice room, nice toilet / shower, but this is common to all other clubs in this league.

Side note, before going there I called up Monrouge to check who was in, as always I was told only 2 girls were available, new and non listed on the site. Didn't trusted them although I was real close to them, and headed to VK.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1422054]Even though they do not say it explicitly in the price list the industry standard is generally 1 pop for half hour and below and two pops for 40-45 mins.[/QUOTE]Let me just add that at KD you can pop as many times as you like if you book half an hour.

First. Many thanks to Angus, Kimino and many others for the great info on this site. Visited Berlin from the US for the first time and my previous experience with Germany was a single visit to a FKK. Decided to try KD after checking out the many options and advice I read.

Was quite jet lagged, but wanted to give it a go anyway. Had 45 minute session with Celina and wish I had been in top form, but she was great in spite of me. Very accomodating woman. All safe, which was what I wanted and part of why I chose the place. Typical nervous jitters and then rang the bell and up the stairs to entrance door. Shown a room and probably 7 or so girls came in to say hello. Had suspected I'd like Celina from the website pictures and was correct. There were other good choices. Pictures don't do her justice. She is considerably more slim, but great breasts. Upstairs to take an even nicer room.

Very friendly, wonderful kissing. My favorite part, created a relaxed affectionate atmosphere and made everything fun. A view of her from any direction made it worth the price. She thought her english wouldn't be great, but we had no problems communicating. Great experience . I would repeat. We had time afterwards and we traded massages and had a great conversation. I left happy and with a smile thinking of more visits.

Returned to KD after at least a little sleep overnight and beginning to take care of my jetlag problem. Arrived a little before they were open. Was curious whether that would mean all the women on the schedule would be available. There were several no shows (had hoped to see Marianna from the website pictures but she had cancelled). Again, saw about a half dozen girls as they came into the room. Was glad to be told that Karina was going to be one who was available, I asked the hausmutti from a short list I had made prior to making the trip. I did think Karina looked great and chose her, was also impressed with Christina who doesn't have real pictures up on the website. I may choose to make an appointment some next visit just to see if that works out, but the fun of not knowing who you might like when you see them is good too.

Agreed with Karina on a 45 minute session and upstairs we went. Two rooms in this location and a shared bathroom. The girls make sure you don't see anyone. Showered and came back into get started. Very much appreciated the hausmutti had placed a fan in the room when I mentioned I would like one to say cool.

Same experience with Karina as I had on my previous KD visit, she also is definitely slimmer in person than the photos would have lead me to believe. Long black hair, nice tight figure, and she was great at getting us started and keeping things light-hearted and fun. All covered fun and we had plenty of time for light kissing, exploring each other, everything I was looking to try out, and then great time to relax after. She was a lot of fun to talk to and I never felt rushed. In fact, I was almost feeling guilty as I'd guess we went over time.

Again, a definite one I would repeat with and recommend.

Will be back to Berlin in a week with 4 days for fun, and not sure if I want to try Artemis or another bordello as I am pretty happy with my KD experiences. Have a few more KD girls on my "to do" list. If I don't see Artemis, I guess I will be curious as to are the girls there the same in terms of service and looks as KD. More reports later.

Happy to take any recommendations on the girls at KD not to be missed if anyone has suggestions.

[QUOTE=ExperienceMtrs;1424067]Happy to take any recommendations on the girls at KD not to be missed if anyone has suggestions.[/QUOTE]Nice reports, and as KD has taken some needless flack here recently, good to see they are on their game. On other options, these are obviously taste and chemistry things so the usual YMMV applies but Paris (no pictures, tall slim C / Ds long blond hair, sometimes irregular sched so call ahead) and even better, Natalie (tall blond Ds and really nice) both well worth an interview. Van Kampen about a 10 min walk away and also worth a look-see website, esp Paris (no relation, Brazilian/DE) and Holly (seriously DE) both very solid performances, and they are really into it. Both seem to start later afternoon so call ahead to check.

If you have a few days, the bordellos are better (in the sense of more choices) Mon-Fri afternoons, and Artemis, surely worth a look with the new pool & jacuzzi and terraces, best Thurs-Sat evenings and are at full staff strength, starting at 8pm. Or you can go earlier and come and go for free, just signing out and in at the front desk. The poolside chill factor at Artemis is hugely better with the new wing and it could serve as a basecamp.

On the Ring S-Bahn it is about 2 minute's ride, 3 stops, and a whopping Eur 1,40 between Heidelbergerplatz (near both bordellos) and Westkreuz, near the Love Bahnhoff. So with sufficient funds, sperm, and energy, both options easily explored. You can even throw in Salon Prestige, very close to the Halensee S-Bahn stop en "root". This poon zone in west Berlin is pretty much a state of the art industrial fuck cluster. Just report back on your sexploits.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1424195]You can even throw in Salon Prestige, very close to the Halensee S-Bahn stop en "root". This poon zone in west Berlin is pretty much a state of the art industrial fuck cluster. Just report back on your sexploits.[/QUOTE]Very well said. On this week I got to try to have quick stop on Salon Prestige too, perhaps before seeing the new extended Artemis. Another place to visit on my list is Erlebniswohnung, which looks to be on easy U-bahn route. Those will be days I hope cats and dogs rain down heavily, cause I'm inside having fun with girls.

[QUOTE=HardHatMack;1424253]Very well said. On this week I got to try to have quick stop on Salon Prestige too, perhaps before seeing the new extended Artemis.[/QUOTE]I neglected to mention Royal-a 10 min walk east-ish from KD, or a 1 minute S-Bahn ride to Bundesplatz, and then a 30 second walk. Yet another option.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1423126]Thanks to RB's info and some google mapping I visited the new location of VanKampen, yesterday. The entrance is in a small parking lot, shared with a supermarket called Aidi or something.

Theres a small ramp climbing to the entrance of the supermarket and just in front of it, where the ramp strts climbing up, is the door of VK, you ring the bell, they open and you have to go up some stairs. 2/3 floors, to enter the place. Not the smartest location. The supermarket will soon move away, but what is going to take it's place? A car seller? A kindergarten?[/QUOTE]I agree, not a smart location. I use to wait and go in when its not to many people outside. Last time I meet Melina, she did a good job. Looks better in real then the pics.

Lady Holy looks nice too.

[QUOTE=Boy1978;1424636]I agree, not a smart location.[/QUOTE]According to the massive sign outside, the Aldi supermarket will move away by 22 May (back around the corner to the old VK location) , so problem will be solved, unless as Kimino suggests, a kindergarden takes over the current spot.

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