Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.
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Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.
[QUOTE=OilStain;2243123]Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.[/QUOTE]Yesterday, I was looking at some commodity & currency charts. Several of them (Euro, Oil, USD, etc.) were at inflection points. Today, USD & Oil down big and Euro / Other Currencies & Precious metals up big. Eyeballing the chart, COP: USD looked like it had broken above the upward channel that started mid May. The top of the channel looks like it is around 3180. Maybe this is a backtest to the top of the channel or maybe it is the start of a larger correction. Since oil has clearly broken down, I like the odds of the USD: COP drop being a simple backtest. We shall see.
I have been to Thailand and want to go to Colombia next. I want to be reading up on here. Is Bogota where I should go? Pattaya is the best place for a first timer in Thailand. Does Colombia have a similar best place?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2244373]I have been to thailand and want to go to columbia next. I want to be reading up on here. Is Bogota where I should go? Pattaya is the best place for a first timer in thailand. Does columbia have a similar best place?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Cartegena but its a beach town, tourist friendly, and might be the closest parallel to Pattaya. It is also said to be twice as expensive. I've only been to Medellin and in the past two months, Bogota. Medellin is rather entry level, because they are used to foreigners and there is much info about it here and other places. However, the popularity may be working against it. Bogota is a bit more of a challenge being a larger city, yet it doesn't see many gringos. If you are an experienced, confident monger you might want to hit Bogota from the beginning. But, the options for punting are more numerous and I felt there is more to do in Bogota. Fair warning, there isn't as much to do as in Thailand and the food is really bland and unexciting.
A few other things to know about Colombia. First off, English is not widely spoken, so try to learn some basic Spanish. Secondly, the Colombians are truly nice people, but safety is a concern there whereas you don't need to give it too much thought in Thailand. Thirdly, if you like pretty Latinas in a variety of skin tones, you will be going to the right place! PM if you have other questions.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2244373]I have been to thailand and want to go to columbia next. I want to be reading up on here. Is Bogota where I should go? Pattaya is the best place for a first timer in thailand. Does columbia have a similar best place?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Someone is bound to correct you, so I'll do it first. It's Colombia. No "you."
You're going to get 3 different answers. All 3 are correct from the perspective of the person giving the answer.
The answers are Cartagena, Medellin and Bogota. All of these are the best place in Colombia for a first timer. Which one is best for you, you'll need to decide.
Each city requires a different approach and has different offerings.
Hi all,
I am new to the forum, and I would appreciate if you guys can give me some general recommendations.
3 males (around 30 years) are looking to have some quality party time in Columbia for 22 days in total.
We will be landing in Bogota on 28th December, and I am thinking where to have party with some girls, on 30, 31st, 1st, 2nd.
So in terms of budget let's say it's around 300 usd per person for chicas and alcohol.
We will be taking for sure some fancy hotel / apartment so if you have some recommendations in this area as well it would be great to hear.
Idea is that all of us are going back to accommodation and have fun there if the energy with girls in club is OK.
I am experienced clubber, but Spanish skills are far away from ideal, so I would love to have like this organized, and not to play on "player" card.
Thanks a lot for the advises!
[QUOTE=Aconi;2247089]Hi all,
I am new to the forum, and I would appreciate if you guys can give me some general recommendations.
3 males (around 30 years) are looking to have some quality party time in Columbia for 22 days in total.
We will be landing in Bogota on 28th December, and I am thinking where to have party with some girls, on 30, 31st, 1st, 2nd.
So in terms of budget let's say it's around 300 usd per person for chicas and alcohol.
We will be taking for sure some fancy hotel / apartment so if you have some recommendations in this area as well it would be great to hear.
Idea is that all of us are going back to accommodation and have fun there if the energy with girls in club is OK.
I am experienced clubber, but Spanish skills are far away from ideal, so I would love to have like this organized, and not to play on "player" card.
Thanks a lot for the advises![/QUOTE]Definitely not an ideal time for what you want.
Way better before Christmas.
[QUOTE=OilStain;2243123]Wasn't much resistance at 3100. I read in a couple places that the Colombian government is not going to defend it. Be nice to see 3500 come into view. Oil.[/QUOTE]The Colombian peso has a higher inflation rate than the US dollar (and plenty of other currencies). This is why, generally, each year things should feel a bit cheaper. Unless of course you over pay or spend in US dollars with the chicas. Want to save money on a 200 k fuck? Wait a year. It will be 3-5% less.
So yeah COP will break through 3100 at some point and more.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2247355]The Colombian peso has a higher inflation rate than the US dollar (and plenty of other currencies). This is why, generally, each year things should feel a bit cheaper. Unless of course you over pay or spend in US dollars with the chicas. Want to save money on a 200 k fuck? Wait a year. It will be 3-5% less.
So yeah COP will break through 3100 at some point and more.[/QUOTE]COP has been above 3100 since Oct 24. COP fluctuates up and down. In Feb 2016, it was above 3400. In April 2018, it was just above 2700. Since mid 2015, it has hovered close to 3000.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2247315]Definitely not an ideal time for what you want.
Way better before Christmas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer, however like I said we will be staying 22 days in total, which means that we are in Colombia until 20th of January.
Any tips, on how to organize something like this are welcome.
Hotel: Stayed in El Poblado area. Pablado Plaza and Dunn Carlton. Both are good hotels with good locations- everything in walking distance, friendly staff. Pablado Plaza is better- friendlier staff, even though English is an issue. Chica friendly? If you book a double room they will not charge extra else they will.
SIM Card: Got a local SIM card at nearby mall. 20 K - 2 GB with 30 days talk. For some reason the text was not working. But overall it was fine.
Taxi: Was approached by some driver at Airport, I suppose he was moonlighting. Charged me 60 K. Dropped me to the hotel. Called him back for return to airport also. The going rate is 70 K, hotels can arrange taxi for 75 K.
Overall Local Taxis are cheap and easily available, I think minm is 5 K. Most trip are less than 10 K (~3 $) - so looking for Uber etc is not necessary. Peak hours traffic can be bad, and taxis hard to find.
ATM: At airport money exchange were only paying 2260/$ - crazy price. Used the BBVA ATM. It is slightly further down beyond the Banco Col ATM. And at least for me there was no commission, and excellent rate 3160. El Poblado has lot of foreign bank ATMs. BBVA, Citi, Scotia etc. They have best chance for no / low commission (and good rate). Banco Col charge 13 K commission (I think it is per transaction) - sort of high, and also not best rate.
ATMs always give you best rate, much better than CC, and of course lot better than cash exchange. In mall cash was at 2850 (so lot better than Airport).
Tourism: Not a whole lot going on. Graffiti- Meh, Sculputura in Centro- OK, Museum- Ok. Took a outside trip Guatape- it is nice (80 K bus tour all day + BF & Lunch).
Local stuff / restaurants- Paruqe lleras (in El Poblado), Parque Laureles. Lots of restaurants / bars- prices are avg. (and lots of SWs in Paruqe lleras).
Was there during Halloween - this is Very big in Colombia.
Mongering: So So- Opinions vary, YMMV, it is legal. Lots of options- Strip Clubs, 'Casas', Massage Places, SWs, etc; Prices (and quality and service) widely vary - 50 K - 300 K. Overall safe and hassle free.
Security / Safety: I never felt insecure or felt was being scammed or anything. But I stayed away from questionable areas like Centro after dark (as suggested). Discretion and caution is always advised, but overall security/safety does not seem to be an issue.
Language: This is a serious issue, 99.9% people don't know a word of English, Google translate is only way out. It is good but can only do that much.
HTH.
[QUOTE=SBTiger;2250382]Hotel: Stayed in El Poblado area. ...[/QUOTE]Thanks for giving back to the forum with a very thorough trip report. All those questions from you can now be forgiven. Hahaha.
- For the girls, I'm mainly comparing Pattaya, Angeles, and Santa Fe / El Centro / Casas / Mid level strip joints. I've never picked up in the high end strip joints in Bogota or Medellin. For the exchange rate, I've used today's rate at $1=3200 COP=32.9 Baht=52.33 pesos. All this is from my memory, and limited exposure. Prices will vary. YMMV.
- Prices for marginal girls on Pattaya Beach Road is around 800 Baht ($24) for 1 hour. It's 35 K Mil ($10.64) for 30 minutes for some casas. Prices in Santa Fe is 40 K Mil ($12.50) for 20 minutes. I paid 100 K ($31) for 1 hour. Probably can get it cheaper. In the lower end, prices seem to be similar per minute. But if you want a quickie, Colombia can be very cheap for a large selection of girls.
- A larger selection of SWs is available in Santa Fe than Beach Road.
- I cannot find diamonds in the rough on Pattaya Beach Road, unless I lower my standards. Easy to find decent looking girls in Santa Fe and El Centro.
- Prices of Walking Street Go-Go girls in Angeles is around 3500 pesos ($67) for short time or long time (depending on the girl). Few cute girls, many slightly above average girls. Prices of almost top end Walking Street Go-Go girls (Palace or Tantra) is 5000 baht ($152) for short time and 7000 baht ($213) for long time. Prices for Soi 6 girls is around 1400 baht ($43) for 1 hour; most girls are average, some above average, few are cute who are hard to find.
- Not sure about the prices for the upper end strippers in Bogota. Maybe $100 and up for short time. I once went to a strip club in Zona T. It sucked. No girls dancing, few girls, expensive beers. In that Cartagena Strip Joint inside the walled city, the girl was around $100 for 1 hour plus the cost of the short time room.
- Way more selection of girls in the Go-Go bars of Pattaya / Angeles than the Strip Joints of Bogota.
- Way more fun in Pattaya's strip joints than Bogota's. In Pattaya, there are tons of girls on stage dancing totally naked. In Colombia, there might be 1 or 2 dancing on stage. They just dance, and then they get naked for a brief time at the end. Plus there are long stretches of time where there is nobody on stage. In Angeles, the girls are in bikinis, but around half the girls are continuously on stage.
- It seems easier to find girls in Colombia willing to do lesbian shows compared to Pattaya and Angeles.
- Seems Colombians are willing to do more for tips than Thais.
- Fantastic monger tools for Colombia. Nothing for Thailand or the Philippines, except for RTFF.
- Many girls in Angeles speak English very well. Generally, Thai girls speak more English than Colombians. Most Colombians don't speak English.
- Cheaper bottle beer prices in Colombia; Philippines is similar, maybe a few cents more; Thailand can get expensive. 7 Mil ($2.19) at the Trop, 125 pesos ($2.39) at Atlantis, 160 baht ($4.86) at a Thai go-go bar.
- Cheaper prices for food at the mid-upper level restaurants in Colombia than Thailand and Philippines. It can be a third of the cost compared to the US. Better variety of food in Thailand. The food at the nice restaurants in Colombia is good. Good fusion. Local Colombia meal of the day is cheap, but too hearty for me (too much potatoes). General quality of the food in the Philippines is lacking.
- Safest out of the three is Thailand.
- Pattaya is the worst for over crowding.
- Least rejections in Colombia.
- On average, Colombians give the worst BJs out of the three.
- Colombia has the best overall weather.
- Colombia has the best tolerance for drugs.
On Youtube a Colombia women talked about how they spot foreigners. She mentioned foreigners wear shorts and sandals in public. Colombians usually only wear shorts and sandals at home or at the beach. I am used to the Philippines and Thailand and wear shorts all but 4 months out of the year in my country. Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.
Being noticed as a foreigner can be both good (bad girls know to approach you) and bad (street beggars come running). All that I am used to.
The problem is my lack of understanding as to where this is a problem. Most countries you do not wear shorts to church or a middle class family restaurant and never a hat. I do not mind being noticed as a foreigner. But I do not want to be noticed as the asshole wearing shorts and sandals where he should not. Is it considered just silly looking or is it disrespectful of their culture?
Wearing shorts / sandals and picking up street walkers should not be a problem. Going to a disco, most sit down restaurants, or walking the Parque Lleras area at night would all be big no-nos I would assume.
Would it bring unwanted attention to a Prepagos girl from her neighbors if I wore shorts and sandals to our meeting at her place? True her neighbors probably know what is happening when guys visit all the time but no reason to flaunt I am a foreigner hooking up with her. I do not want to embarrass her. No need to start off on the wrong foot.
All the guys appear to wear blue jeans only. Never saw Docker or cargo type pants. Any reason for this?
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2253815]On Youtube a Colombia women talked about how they spot foreigners. She mentioned foreigners wear shorts and sandals in public. Colombians usually only wear shorts and sandals at home or at the beach. I am used to the Philippines and Thailand and wear shorts all but 4 months out of the year in my country. Most the Youtube videos in Medellin where I wish to visit showed guys everywhere almost always wearing pants.
Being noticed as a foreigner can be both good (bad girls know to approach you) and bad (street beggars come running). All that I am used to.[/QUOTE]I can't think of any place in Parque Lleras that would not let you in because you were wearing shorts and sandals. Maybe a few of the high end restaurants in areas around the park would frown at you.
In Medellin most people don't wear shorts and sandals because the climate isn't one where shorts and sandals are appropriate. Daily high temperature is 80-85° F, nightly lows are 56-62° F and humidity is low. If it's rainy, don't expect higher than 76° daytime.
Except during ciclovia (look it up), when I was riding my bike or walking for exercise, I wore jeans. Jeans are comfortable. Jeans are appropriate for every place I went or every function I attended. Jeans and sensible shoes made walking comfortable and people didn't notice from a block away that a foreigner was coming down the street. I took a guy wearing shorts for a walk through the streetwalkers in El Centro. One of them was very aggressive with him, grabbing at his pants. I walked those streets hundreds of times and never had anyone get that aggressive.
If you're interested in going to Medellin to pay for sex, you probably don't need to worry about being disrespectful to the culture by wearing shorts and sandals. It's a friendly city and most people will just assume that you don't know any better. There will be a few people who will be very happy to see you wearing shorts and sandals. However, I would be careful with them. Chances are, they just see you as an easy target.