Addresses for the Girly Bars on/near Nanjing Lu
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman; 1256568]The point of this post is that I visited several 'girly bars' and my overall question is: setting aside the karaoke place in #3 below, are these places legit.
1) We walked east to the buildings in the mid-600s, turned north (left) up a side street, then east (right) on the first proper street. Walked down a block and there were two large doors painted blue, with no windows. The woman led me inside to a regular bar, with several booths, and 4 scantily-clad girls in their early 20s sitting in the center booth.
2) My 'guide'. Led me further east, then down an alley to a local run-down restaurant a half-block north of Nanjing Lu, visible from that street in the mid-500s area. We walked into the restaurant, made a left and walked up a spiral metal staircase to the second floor where there was a bar / brothel. This bar also had a mamasan in her late 30s, and the scene was similar – into a small side room, a line-up appeared, this time with only two girls, and the same pricing structure. I didn't like either girl, so I got up and left.
3) We crossed Nanjing Lu and took a turn to the right down half a block, walked into an office building and took the elevator to the top floor (12th?). This time the place was a deserted karaoke bar.
4) This time, the place was located in one of the largest department stores on the street, with the initials MB. I was puzzled that the two ladies were bringing me into a department store, but once we walked into the front entrance, the ladies led me to the left, to a bank of elevators hidden in a corner. Went up to the 7th floor, where there was a clearly 'local' Chinese food court, with over 100 customers, men, women, children, but no foreigners. The two ladies led me to the rear of the food court, past the toilets, then down a couple of turns down a dimly-lighted hallway to – another brothel! This time I was led into a small room, and a beautiful girl who spoke English was led in, then the two of us were left alone.
5) Finally made it to the Bund around 7:15 pm I walked up the stairs to the promenade and an innocent-looking 20-year-old female who was standing with a girlfriend said 'Hello. '.[/QUOTE]I wasn't sure how much information to give in my e-mail last week about the four 'girly bar' places that I visited. Here are the addresses (all on/near the pedestrian-only part of Nanjing Lu):
1) The street-level bar with two windowless doors is located between 415 and 423 Tianjin Road, just east of Zhejiang Road North. Tianjin Road is parallel to and one block to the north of Nanjing Lu. This bar has a sign that says 'BEER COFFEE' above the door, plus some Chinese characters.
I walked into this place around 6 pm and found the same late 30-ish attractive mamasan and the same girls who were on duty last week.
2) The brothel that is located above a restaurant is located in the "Tianhuitian Restaurant." This place is located in a side alley just off of Nanjing Lu to the north, between #500 and #508 and a 'Tianhuitian Restaurant' sign in English is easily visible from Nanjing Lu.
Interestingly, as I stood on Nanjing Lu getting ready to write down this information on a piece of paper, a 35-ish Chinese woman walked up to me, said 'let's go' grabbed my left elbow and tried to walk down the alley with me. A 50-ish white man who had been standing at the corner yelled out to me in English 'don't go there, it's a tourist trap! ' I shook off the girl and walked up to the guy and asked, what kind of trap? He replied, it's a trap because once you get into the place, you'll be charged a lot of extra money, maybe over a thousand yuan for drinks, room charges, etc. I thanked him and left.
3) Diagonally across Nanjing Lu from this tiny alley is a wider pedestrian walkway that's only around 50 meters long. The landmark is that the building on the left hand side is 497 Nanjing Lu. If you walk down to the end of this walkway, on the left at the end is a non-descript 13 story building, with a 'Star Hairdo' shop on the ground floor, and a bank of elevators to the left of the shop. The karaoke place is located on the 12th (or 13th) floor here. I also learned that there's a place on the 8th floor of this building named 'Brazilian Coffee' that looks like a girly bar, with some girls on duty, plus apparently some of the female streetwalkers bring their customers here to use the private rooms here.
On the 5th floor of 497 Nanjing Lu is a legitimate massage place, that offers foot massages, back massages in the open, etc. Not sure if any additional services are available here.
4) The major department store that has a brothel / girly bar on its 7th floor (behind the food court) is Meters Bonwe.
Also, if you walk east from Meters Bonwe, just before the entrance to the Metro subway on the north side, there's some restaurants, with a 'UBC Coffee' shop on the third floor. In addition to the usual tables, customers can also sit in one of three little rooms off to the side that have sliding doors that close; evidently, girls can bring their male customers to the UBC Coffee shop, go into one of the rooms, order overpriced tea / coffee / juice, then slide the door closed and get to work. Not sure if there's room charge here as I didn't partake.
5) I never made it back to the Bund, so I don't know where the location of the last place is.
[B]Summary:[/B] Take the advice of posters here such as Bionicman and Changlelu, and the gentleman standing outside the Tianhuitian Restaurant, and avoid these places. Better to go to one of the high-end places, a BBS or one of the other established massage places.
How many times must it be said
how many warnings have been posted by members? more than i can remember! again, do not go with touts, ladies who approach you, etc. or you will be fleeced. even going to a restaurant where you think you are in control, you are not unless you speak the language and do all the ordering. never let anyone you don't know order anything at any place. look at the menu, understand the price before, not after.
china is a place where a fool and his money will soon be parted. enough said.
sh.
[quote=pablito69; 1258022]hi all. sorry for my english.
if you were to choose to go to shanghai (i'm just in and i was like a little baby).
i read the english speaking forums about "bad boys" in shanghai, who are invited to bars / pubs / clubs with the girls (the girls are really nice and they look like children) and you take for example at the entry bear at a reasonable price, then the some girs jump beside u & take anything such as mineral water, and when you exit it turns out that you have to pay $ 700 (because the water in this club is extremely expensive).
today i flew to shanghai around 12:00 and decided to eat "something". walking through the streets of shanghai (people's square plays host) , i was repeatedly "importuned" to take advantage of the 2 beautiful girls. but experienced politely refused and pushed forward, the nangin road (do not know how to spell, but it is the main pedestrian street of shanghai) the girls were walking with me even to the stores, they were pretty cool girls. of course, what manner of texts were europeans are pretty, handsome,"gentel", etc (oh my god, but gave up approaches). gone through with me, except that 45 min. dragged me around the shops etc.
later i knowe cautions on the net, i told them i was hungry and i chose the restaurant. nothing special restaurant, a typical chinese. shit, syphilis, and grave, they said that they are hungry, so i invited them: thinking. a measure of 15:00, restaurants trifling will be ok. ordered "some" meat, rice, spring rolls, salads and "something" to drink.
we ate and to the common bowls joined my third (their peers) and the waitress brought eight glasses vile whiskey, which the newly created knowledge we had. the conversation took place on topics such as massage will look like, how much per hour, etc. i then been activated, however,"red light" and asked for the bill.
they brought and it turned out that it is on. 100 usd (7000 yuan)
he turned pale, keeping a cool head and experienced the entries on the other side ordered that staff called the police, after 10 min the police was not there, so i took the phone and dialed 110 (emergency phone in china). she pulled off the phone of me and said they do not want problems and price "fell" in 3500 yuan or 550usd. going forward i tried to call the police, but she took the phone of me againolice claiming that it was not me i ordered drinks (according to the truth, because it turned out that whiskey 30ml costs about $ 75, but the lady grabbed the phone again.
after the great fairs, not wanting to wait any longer (because the science of this and so have some flow) agreed to pay $ 300 just for food.
any way it cost me 300 usd.
now is a little easier for me because i share with u. as "old" and experienced peasant allowed himself to be done as a 6-year-old.
so beware that gentlemen. not only touts the pubs / clubs / bars are "dangerous, but also a nice walking girls that will catch you on the street.
greetings from shanghai. unless i should to shoot "goal" to relieve nerve. but i do not know if i will not be again. jurk.
pablito.
as laowaisha wrote:
for all you visitors, nanjing road is scam central, separating you from your money their specialty so be careful out there.[/quote]
Tough to beat 'them, so don't give them the opening
[QUOTE=Steven Long; 1258211]Seems we all will have the same experience one day. I read a lot about the tricks before I went to Shanghai first time. So walking on the Nanjing Lu, a nice "student" start to talk with me (only for english training, you know.) , than we talked, walked around a little bit, she tried to push me into a teahouse and I thought I can be more clever than her. Thought if I decide the restaurant, she has no chance to cheat me. So I selected my "own" restaurant, a little bit away from the main Road. I cared a lot to make sure, restaurant is decided by myself to avoid any "connection" between the restaurant and her. I avoid to order any special drinks, only water and juice, after we finished, the bill was around 1800 RMB. (Normal price in this restaurant should be not more than around 150 to 200 for what we got. I went there again with a Chinese friend later to check the menue prices). Seems even the girl did not know the stuff there, she find a way to deal with them to scam the "stupid tourist". So hope our experience will help others to act more "clever" than we did.
Have Fun Guys![/QUOTE]Steven,
Good thinking on your part, but realize, these girls are professionals. Any restaurant, any where near Nanjing road, without Chinese language skills, you have no chance. She just had to mention splitting the take with the waiter (ess) , and you are done. At least you only dropped 1800 rmb. The cost of two good sauna sessions.
Visitors, be warned. If you want to lose your cash, go with the touts and cute "students" on Nanjing Road, the Bund and other tourist spots. If you want real return on investment, RTFF to find reputable P4P places.
Shanghai Xintiandi Langham Hotel
Hello, Mongers, thank you for all your posts. I'm making my first trip to SH next week. Sadly, I have a co-worker joining me. I know from reading ordering services from the hotels spa is expensive, but what if that's my only option. What can I expect to pay, and to get (quality and service)? Did it in Jakarta a few years ago and it was sweet! Also, I don't see any posts about in or around the Shanghai Xintiandi Langham Hotel. Is there anything very close if I can duck out for a short period?
Thanks in advance. Will report back.